Ford Focus ST Dragparison: Manual v auto, drag race, 1/4 mile, sound check & brake test!
Acceleration tests, exhaust sound, plus drag races. Paul Maric puts the Ford Focus ST automatic up against the manual version to see which is louder and quicker and then the winner goes head-to-head against the Volkswagen Golf GTI. We are calling this series the Dragparison!
It's a comparison at the drag strip. Let us know if you like it and what else you'd like to see. But, until then, watch the 2020 Ford Focus ST automatic drag race against the 2020 Ford Focus ST manual and then watch the winner take on the 2020 Volkswagen Golf GTI. Watch to find out who wins!
Performance times:
Focus ST automatic:
0-100km/h: 5.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.3 seconds at 162.9km/h
100km/h - 0: 35.3m over 2.6s
Focus ST manual:
0-100km/h: 6.4s
1/4 mile: 14.7 seconds at 161.8km/h
Volkswagen Golf GTI Performance:
0-100km/h:
1/4 mile: 14.9s at 161.9km/h
100km/h - 0: 39.8m at 2.8s
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Skip Ahead:
Dragparison: 00:00
Performance Specs: 00:45
Acceleration Test (Focus ST Auto): 03:07
Acceleration Test (Focus ST Manual): 05:26
Focus ST Drag Race: 10:05
Focus ST v Golf GTI Drag Race: 11:30
Verdict: 13:32
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Carexpert, doing things nobody asked for but everyone waited for..,
😅😅 thanks mate!
@@CarExpertAus I love this. You test in comfort/normal and sport and Race mode and thats what we whant to see. Do more. I have seen you review cars on other channels and I love to watch you becouse you are so good at It But when there comes a video without you its not fun and not interesting to watch. So I love this channel. Good work (:
@@thefasterdriver626 Thank you!
@@CarExpertAusNever stop doing this. Love the videos
I really like how comprehensive the tests were for testing performance, really good keep it up!
Really impressed with the quality and thoroughness of this comparison! Awesome work. Cheers from 🇧🇷
Skip Ahead: Dragparison: 00:00 Performance Specs: 00:45 Acceleration Test (Focus ST Auto): 03:07 Acceleration Test (Focus ST Manual): 05:26 Focus ST Drag Race: 10:05 Focus ST v Golf GTI Drag Race: 11:30 Verdict: 13:32
I can’t believe that in America we won’t get these ST’s
😭
Neither did you get the MK2 ST & RS. Sad times
Joshua Carter Well we got the Volvo C30 R Design which had the same chassis and Engine as the MK2 Focus ST
I'm just gonna sit here and cry😭😭😭 damn it!!!
Same I own a mk3 ST and the MK4 looking clean asf too bad we don’t get it
Couldn"t focus whilst I was playing Golf.
Ha ha, you're good! 😅
I bet you're playing golf at Ibiza with Megane ?
This guy posts about times to skip to in the video for people that don't want to wait.. this channel is going places! Thumbs Up
I love this channel! You can see the passion and hard work in every frame
Thank you! We appreciate it :-D
I expect this quality of video to come out of a YT channel with millions of subs. Keep this up and you'll get there easily 👍
Thanks @Chad, we appreciate it!
I can see this channel getting big. Keep up the hard work guys, you'll be at 100k in no time
Thanks, @Charlie, appreciate it!
This reaction aged well. :)
oh how old this has gotten.
quality content mate! strongly supporting you. This kind of content had ben led by European and American reviewers so its great to see an Australian doing it :)
I'm loving these reviews. My Fav hatches are 1. Mercedes A45 2. Ford Focus RS 3. Audi rs3 4. Golf R 5. Civic type R
Thanks Hault - we'll see if we can line some of those up in the future!
@@CarExpertAus keep up the amazing reviews 👌
You forgot the M140i
Mine is volvo c30 ^^
And u dont own a single one lol.
Love your work! Keep the content coming 👍
Thank you! Will do! 😄
I've just placed a deposit on a Manual Orange Fury... can't wait... :-)
Would love to have one however I really purchased a new car so can’t afford one right now. Would love to own one in the future since I used to own a St170 and they’re one of the most underrated hot hatches out there
I've drove the new focus st very impressive nearly bough 1, but then decided to get the mountune m400r kit for my mk3 rs it a rocket ship cheers Steve 😀👍
Congrats!! Enjoy the new car :-D
@Bailey Buchanan for real
Whats a fury dude
This is exactly the sort of video I've been looking for
Awesome. Great to hear, Morgan!
I was impressed with how the auto did really like the new focus st cheers steve👍😀
Thanks Steve!
Wow. Such an under rated channel. Far better video quality than a lot of large automotive channels. I really enjoyed the drag-race as well. Ford did well with this car!
the quality of the video is amazing i thought this was a channel with atleast 100K subs, you're amazing i tell you. can't wait for a new video!
Maybe one day! Thanks for watching :-)
What kills the 0-100 in manual is shifting to 3rd gear. I think a longer 2nd would allow it to hit 100kmh in 5.5-5.8
Very true!
Thats for pay more for an auto if u want to be quick,this is marketing
@@nicufratila9473 Except Ford quotes the Auto to be slower...
@@Cain353 because its an auto with converter not dual clutch
it's a double edged knife. Longer 2nd gear may be problematic in medium speed corners. I have the same issue with my Fiesta ST200. BUt it helps in medium speed corners because you are at maximum boost when pushing out of it.
Great review Paul!! As always and the prices of these things are so affordable.....just curious, would you take a Polo GTi full loaded or a new Focus ST manual? I'm stuck between the two!
Excellent comparison guys and love the format and chanel! So glad that you started it. I've added CarExpert on my go to list of car reviews on yt alongside Carwow, Autogefühl, Straight Pipes and Doug DeMuro. In the future maybe you can do the focus ST manual vs I30n manual. I was seconds away to buy the manual st but I saw that the i30n face-lift is around the corner and I'll wait a little bit more. Keep it up! See you soon on 1 million subs! 😁
Hey @Jazztastic: Thank you - we really appreciate and love having regular viewers!
I like that detailed comparisons, haven't seen that anywhere else before, very interesting. I'm going for automatic because I like the blue color. Hello from Vienna, Austria
Did you just coin the term dragparison? Nice. If you’re taking requests, try to get the new JCW Clubman vs any similar competitor. Possibly the Golf R. And could you do quarter mile and half mile times? I think for the more powerful cars you want to see which one has the legs over a longer distance. It would be another point of differentiation for your channel, which already has a few.
Ha ha, I think we did! Hopefully nobody steals it ;-) thanks for those recommendations! We don't have enough room at the drag strip for anything more than 402m (well, not safely anyway), we need to find ourselves an airport!
Really enjoying these tests. Of love to see you do one with the cheap(er) EV's on the Oz market.
Great video, great channel 👍
Great video, great format
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching :-)
I mean... I still want the manual anyday! ST as a daily RS for track RS4 if I want to show off
This video made my mind up about getting an auto Focus ST. Such a fun car and can be used as a daily too
Finally someone did it in professional test about difference MT vs AT :) Thanks!
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@@CarExpertAus Now Im pretty sure that my next car will be Focus ST with AT :) and AT is not slower than MT like other people say.
just drove a Focus ST (auto) as a loan car. Having a round knob as your gear selector is stupid & ridiculous !!
@@wilson2455 bro, that gear selector is awesome, come on.
Very nice video thanks!!
Do you have the 1ft rollout function set to ON or OFF, on Racelogic ?
@paulmaric Love the video and test and miss my Stealth Grey ST. I currently have the new Focus ST Line X 180 Auto, which was the highest power train at the time in Auto. The ST Auto hasn’t come out yet in the UK and I have another two years with the existing car, until I can upgrade again. So I was wondering it would could do a comparison with the ST Line 180 in Auto and Manual and compare those 0-100 times, as I don’t have those fancy timing gadgets? Also, it would be good to compare the 180 with the ST, but also, see if that 2nd gear makes much difference....😀
Great vid!
Thanks, @Martin!
Well done as always Paul. Bring on the utes for a similar comparison.
Thanks, @sid! Hah, you mean a comparison at the drag strip? That would be good fun!
CarExpert sure will be
Your’e channel is realyy good man i hope you get more fame soon
Thanks! We hope so too :-D
I've got a 2016 ST and can't stand what they did with the new design. Looks like a Honda and not a hot hatch. Exhaust on the automatic is bland as the 2016.
Awesome, love comparisons like this
Good job
Thanks Paul! We will keep them coming. Any car requests for us?
CarExpert Would love to see a Polo GTI vs Fiesta St shootout
Great review. Just need to add in an in gear acceleration test for the full Mat Watson experience
Thanks, Stuart! Unfortunately we don't have enough room at the drag strip for this kind of thing, but will look at working on a new location!
These new focus st look nice from the back and sound awesome especially the manual one but not sure about the front headlights look, prefered the last 2017 front headlights but would still get a manual new one in orange fury great colour, plenty quick for uk roads too 👌👍🏴
Im looking at these at the moment want to know which one to get a manual or automatic 🤔
Have to be honest, really enjoy the concept of this video and the approach you guys took... it's actually the kind of things we'd like to know and see when reviewing cars... especially the acceleration comparison... I mean robot(traffic light, in South Africa we say robot) any way robot to robot racing, there's no time to put the car in launch made... so a big thumbs up from me and a subscribe too... good stuff
It's alright that Focus I'll have to drive them both to see want I want.. great review 👍
Best of luck with the purchase and the test drive! 😁
Hi, excellent reviews. Thanks. Please review the Renault GT and RS ..,, also the Ford Raptor!
Is the st line automatic hona get the same results or?
Let's be honest, Paul. This is more for you than it is the rest of us. Just look at that big old smile on your face whenever you put your foot down on the gas. Jajaja
😅 Thank you!
Great Test, i want the Automatic!
i love this channel :) one does not need to be a prophet to foresee that there shall be a massive rise in sub numbers
Thanks @Jaroslav, appreciate it!
Loved the video and love me fords ❤
Good and interesting video👍
Really nice comparison, only two things I wish you addressed. You got 6.4s shifting to 3rd at 98km/h on the dash, so unless it actually already drove 100 there, it would be faster to stay in 2nd? You also used the Focus a lot so if it has race brakes they would be warmed up so breakes were tested under different conditions?
If you get the chance, watch the rest of the video with the manual. We did a 0-100 run without shifting to third as well. There was a filming break before we did the brake test so both cars were at similar temperatures.
I have a Mazda 3 MPS and this is what I want to have next! So awesome, it’s got the similar 2.3L engine block that was Ford’s development when they owned Mazda back then... It’s a pity Ford Malaysia will not be selling this Focus ST here 🥲🥲
Are these the same models the ST-line?
9:38 IMO shifting into third at about 96 km/h actually increases the time, maybe just a little but it does
It turns out that it didn’t make a difference. As the car approaches the soft limiter it tapers off throttle. The car is also beyond its peak torque and power band.
@@CarExpertAus Did you try changing up slightly earlier then when it would still be in peak torque band? Power band at this point wouldn't matter.
@@Mk1Male Yep, we tried a number of different variations of the formula :-D
@@CarExpertAus true I own a 2013 and shifting at 5500 gets you the best acceleration got 6.2 on my 2013 but those had an open diff 20 less hp and 40 less lbft of torque so im going to guess have a limited slip diff plus little more power you could get 5.6-5.8 from an experienced driver cause the 2013s are rated 5.9-6.2
Loved It!
Thanks, Weston!
Very sad this gen of st isnt available in America i have a 2017 and i love it
Apparently all we care about is the f150 and crossovers. I have just a plane jane focus and I love the darn thing.
yeah the whole DCT failure killed it for us
Let's all do our part - Write or Call Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them their customers in America want to buy the new Focus ST - maybe we can convince them it's a profitable choice for them to bring it to the US
Good review I liked it, subscribing!! Maybe a Hyundai I30N comparison with the Focus ST?
Thanks! Yep when the updated i30 comes we will get on to that 😁
@@CarExpertAus Yes I am hanging to see the DCT version of the I30, rumor also says there is at some point an AWD version coming too.
Nice one Paul 👍🏽
Thanks 👍 Glad you enjoyed it!
With front tires aired down to low 20s psi and perfect track prep I think the manual ST will have no problem running 5.5-5.6 seconds 0-100 kmh and 13.8 through the 1/4 mile.
Your shifts are pretty clean mate, It needs more tyre though 😎 I was pretty suprised with how close the Kmh were, then realised you can flat shift so no boost loss 🤘
More tyre width just breaks shit , it needs boost by gear.
80-120 split times are a big measure of performance. Any chance?
Can you reviews this Against seat Leon Capra dsg.
Why did you shift into 3rd for the last 3?
Thank you Paul and because of this video decided to go for an ST performance blue. Sorry Golf!
Can you please make a dragparison of the Subaru wrx sty manual and auto
10:13 you say a surface is unprepared? How a prepared surface looks then if this is unprepared?
Love that new ST. Possible next car for me
That was a very interesting comparison ! Maybe with a rolling start acceleration it would be even better (like carwow). Hyundai i30N vs Focus ST or vs Peugeot 308 GTI would be fun.
Great point! We will try and do a rolling race next time :-D
Focus manual is faster than I30N. Check 'Ukaž káru' chanel
I thought STs were AWD with torque vectoring ... what model is that then ?
This is the content I'm talking about
The difference in ratios between the auto's gears seem far too large. I realise you're now done with the cars, but it would've been good to have the gauge view with some paddle shifting up and down on the auto. The gauge cam view for the drags is really nice to have! Thanks guys.
Thanks, MC. We'll keep that in mind for next time!
yea the gear ratios now days are designed with economy in mind so it is annoying yea. the ratios now days are not as enjoyable to drive as the older gearboxes. The 7 speed gearbox I very likely has 3 of it's gears tuned towards highway cruising.
Would love to see a comparison between the st and the Cupra.
We need more Dragparisons
Our pleasure! We have more in the pipeline :-D
Good job
Thanks!!
So the Focus ST Manual 1/4 mile time is better than the Golf GTI Performance's ???
I own a 4.5 ST auto and got 13.8 just with cold air intake and catback exhaust Good cars
I am suprised that it looks exactly like my ST-line. Thought it might has some more sportish elements. Still very happy with my ST-line 2018. Solid car 😊
True!
I have a rs mk 2 still the best build from all
exactly the same, except few badges and the motor haha 😆
What is amazing is that the manual-only Fiesta makes the same times as the Focus with an essential shift to third.
Another ripper review.
Cheers Terry!
Any plan for reviewing new Aston Martin Vantage in the future?
We will try and get our hands on one :-D
I probably don't need to ask but when the i30N is available in auto please put it up against the comparable auto Focus or Golf or whatever auto hot hatch you can get your hnds on.
Was it me or did it sound like he was saying “rice mode” 😂😂😂
You just realised that it does 100 km/h in 2nd gear and than you decided to change into 3rd gear at 96-97 km/h ... WHY????????
I was thinking the same Hahahaha...
Two points to consider. The digital speedo display rises in steps rather than continuously so for much of the time it is understating the actual speed. Also, at the top end of the rev band torque falls away faster than revs rise so the car loses power. As the chap says, snatching the up shift before hitting the point where power starts to fall away might be quicker.
x0.5 speed at the "verdict" segment in the video is surprisingly good.
😅 Do I talk too fast?
Y'all probably won't read this and it seems to be quite an unpopular opinion, but can you pit a peugeot 308 GTI against different other hot hatches?
My car did 5.7/stock and 5.1 stage 1 and thats the wagon i dont get it why that one is so slow
Do one of this when the i30n dct arrive
Amazing car loving the Auto 😍
this cars are stock right?
What is Ford transmission, dct ?
I need to move over there...
Hi. Can you do new focus st vs mk3 st?
We will try and track one down :-D
One problem I see is you arent getting first gear anywhere near its maximum torque or HP bands, which means youre shifting into second way too early.
What a shame Ford discontinued these awesome line of hot hatches in the USDM ): I have the fiesta st got the last one for 2019 which is the mk7 not the mk8 in Europe. Had to get them while they were here. Very happy with my ST could only imagine the newer ones 😭
I've had a mk8 for 6 months now, and it is insanely good fun. It can beat a mountune fettled mk 7.
Wow the Focus looks beautiful! I’m sad that they took the focus out of America :(
Here in sa the same not the focus of fiesta is coming here,only st line kuga.
Let's all do our part - Write or Call Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them their customers in America want to buy the new Focus ST - maybe we can convince them it's a profitable choice for them to bring it to the US
Try with Golf GTI TCR.
God bless you for using metric
Those fords are much nicer then previous us version
Let's all do our part - Write or Call Ford US Customer Relationship Center and tell them their customers in America want to buy the new Focus ST - maybe we can convince them it's a profitable choice for them to bring it to the US market.
Went to look at one as a second car… no aircon air vents in the rear for passengers.. or USB ports
Most modern Autos seem to be quicker than manuals now. Purchased a Mini F56 JCW auto recently. Was all set on manual for the fun factor. However, theres just no way you can change gear as quick as the auto in sport with perfect timed changes. Think in the case of the mini manual was about 6.3 to 100kph (or 62mph) vs auto that takes it down to sub 6 seconds. That's basically half a second quicker!
I've seen people get