The Sony a7R V often feels like a flagship camera and while it's no surprise that it excels at photography, it's absolutely no slouch for video as well. But how does it stack up against the Sony a1 and if you're looking to upgrade, which camera should you be looking at? Let's talk about it...
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I just sold my A7Rv to replace with a second A1 body. For me as a wildlife photographer the A1 is better in every respect apart from the lack of flip/tilt screen. With the A7Rv too many of my photos of flying birds, or even small birds were out of focus. I think the new AI autofocus on the A7Rv is ‘work in progress’. For wildlife photographers the A1 is clearly a much better camera and worth its higher cost.
I was commenting on that issue on one of the Mark Galer's video. He has pointed out that the if you want to compare AF performance between A7R and A1 you need distinguish Focus Acquisition (here A7R could be better because of AI) and Focus Tracking (here A1 is a clear winner because of stacked sensor, to sensor blackouts and more af/lens actuations per sec.) My interpretation is that A7R could be better from A1 in terms of AF as long as you are not pressing the shutter button ;-)
Very helpful video. Thanks mate
Gareth nice review, I completely agree with your assessment of this. I've had both the A1 and all the A7R series. I've also had 2 GFX 100s. For me, the GFX is didn't give me enough advantage over my Sony, A7R4A which I recently part exchanged against the A7R5. The a 705 for me represents probably one of the best cameras I've ever used and abused a lot of cameras over the years. The AI. Auto focus is not really of any great concern to me because I spend a lot of my time mainly performing landscape shooting. For me, the articulated rear screen is a game changer. I wanted that for so long ability to vertically hold the camera close to the ground to be able to see what I'm shooting as well as the tethering which to the Sony app on my iPhone was excellent with the A1 but was downgraded somewhat on the other Sony models but with this new A7R5 It's on a par with the A1 performance giving me a lot of extra functionality including choosing the focus point which the old version wouldn't do so I'm very happy with mine and intend to keep it for sometime. Will find it difficult to find reasons to replace it. As a primarily landscape photographer, this camera represents me the most capable camera I've ever come across and they're still features. I haven't even started to explore for instance, focus stacking and the multishift pixel shift mode which I hope to do quite soon, but unfortunately the raw driver for Photoshop and Lightroom hasn't been released by Adobe yet, which I'm keenly waiting for. Stress, I am not a Sony fanboy, although it might come across that I am but I've had Olympus. I've had Fuji film. I've had Panasonic's all digital and I keep coming back to Sony which for me says everything.
Having watched Taylor Jackson and Manny Ortiz reviews on the A7R5, two features you've missed on the A7R5 is improved auto white balance and metering. They both said AWB was now really usable on the A7R5, where it hadn't been on previous cameras. I'd love to buy the A7R5 but I reckon I'd be shooting medium raw 90% of the time, using the 61mp to get some crop and extra reach from a lens only. Im just not sure if there is a disadvantage working that way, would I get more noise in crop mode, I just don't know, as no one has addressed this use case scenario.
Well done. I would go with the A7R 5, but actually love my combo of A74 and FX30. I'll stick with what I have as they work great for my purposes.
I also have this combo. I also have the A7s3 for big video projects.
Wow, both them cameras look amazing I’ve got a Sony a 74 quick question will the firmware update be able to take away the crop in 4K 60 …….thanks for the video 🙂🙂
It totally depends on what and how you shoot. I primarily shoot raptors in flight, and that being said - The A1 is the better camera for me. Even taking into consideration the additional resolution, and advanced autofocus the A7r5 does not have a stacked sensor which leads to considerable limitations for erratic fast moving subjects. I was quite surprised that the A7R5 does not have a blackout free EVF after hearing all the hype over the EVF upgrade over the A7R4. I own both units and will use both happily, but the A7R5 will have some limitations that will limit how often I grab it over my A1. If I was a Landscape or studio photographer then the A7R5 would get the nod.
Fantastic video. I am currently researching my next upgrade and have narrowed it down to these two. I primarily shoot dog sports, though I love any type of fast action. Thanks for the tips!
I am in the same boat it is a big and tricky decision. I think a1 though
I’m shooting bodybuilding competition with a7iv and I want to upgrade to 8k Bodybuilding isn’t a fast moving sport. I just need extreme detail of the musculature of the athletes during their choreographed Posing routines Will the a7Rv work well for what I need? Do I need more than PAL 25fps at 8k? Great video and very informative my brother
Biggest lie of the universe "Sony has always been very good with firmware update"
😂😂😂 just posted this
Just sold my A1 recently when I realized Sony didn’t really seem to have any intention to keep it at the top of their cameras with flagship features that were on much cheaper Sony cameras. Beautiful image though.
@@TheJ_G Unfortunately, Sony is not a company like Apple when it comes to updates.
I spat me tea out when he said that (along with the one about the A7RV being good in low light).
I just spent 10 seconds trying to wipe a hair off my screen, only to realise its your thumbnail pic haha
"a7r5 is fantastic in low light" I own it and shoot daily and have owned every R camera since the original and it's worse than the 7R4 and about on par with the 7r2&3. Have you actually used the 7R5 enough to be giving these opinions?
you might have a completely wrong camera. what camera r u using
Don't know where you got your buffer numbers, but the A1 shooting compressed raw at 30fps with the CFE Type-A, I hit the buffer limit at about 150 shots on BOTH of my A1s.
I feel (Coming from the A7rIV) that the A7RV is the new flagship camera Like you said unless you are a Sports or Bird shooter, the A7RV is hands down the best now And who cares about 120FPS in 4K anyways..... But the best feature is The fact that you can shoot 60mp's shots and then go into APSC for 30mp's is just hands down the most valuable feature It makes my prime lenses become two folcal plain lenses in one, all while still having high res shots for croping Regards, Rick
"who cares about 120FPS in 4K" OK... lol
@@mfontenlamiro Only every legit videographer .....lol Go troll somewhere else
@@rickvestuto so I'm the troll and you are the one saying the 120fps is not something to care haha ok dude 🤣
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@@rickvestuto lol you still think I'm trolling you.. ok. Hands down an idiot that buys new cause is new. Oh! my channel? lol... try with a salad dude
I just took delivery of the A7RV yesterday. I'm a retired photography enthusiast. I bought it as a hybrid camera. No, not video and stills, but as FF and APS-C. I shoot birds, landscape travel and grandkids mostly. My current kit (until yesterday) included an A7IV and an A6600. I have a very nice collection of APS-C lenses, but I'm just done with the A6600 for so many reasons. I have no confidence that Sony will remedy that any time in the foreseeable future. The usability/ergonomics are so poor. Small low res EVF and LCD, tiny flat buttons, only one real control wheel, not to mention, the grip is so short, and I have large hands, that I have to have a SmallRig grip extension on it all the time. That. brings the weight up to within 150gm or so of the A7RV. Another option I considered was the Fuji X-H2 which turns out is only 60 gm lighter than the A7RV. The A7IV was great, but to use it as a crop camera, I was down to 14mp. So bottom line is I get a camera that is superior in every way, that I can use as a small kit without any compromise. Win win.
Well, Sony rumors are touting the a6700. That should get your attention. It seems to be more an FX-30 in an a slightly bigger a6600 body with an EVF.
@@bondgabebond4907 If the A6700 is all it's cracked up to be, I'll probably just off load my A7R5 as well as my OM-1. Simplify, Simplify!
Is there a new A1 yet??
Good thoughts. I have the A1 and the A7R5 arrives today. Why the A7R5 if I already have the A1? Most importantly, here is how I use my cameras. 90% is landscape. 10% is people including youth field sports like soccer and football. (Sorry, I'm sure that sounded redundant to you!) I don't do video at all. The move to the A1 gave me one camera that can do it all. But.... I almost never use the monitor. The quality just isn't there. I do love the EVF on the A1 but the A7R5 will nearly match it. I have long wished for Focus Bracketing. Not a must-have but there are so many times when it would have been useful. What I am looking forward to with the A7R5 is the monitor (both the fact that I can deploy it in a lot of ways which is useful when shooting some landscape scenes and the fact that it is higher quality) and the Focus Bracketing. I am still undecided as to whether or not I prefer the controls on the right-hand top of the A1 vs having those functions in the Function Menu. To be honest, the most common think I forget while using the A1 is that I have forgotten to change the drive mode. What I don't really know because I haven't seen any comparisons is how the autofocus tracking for field sports is better on the the A1 or the A7R5. If the A7R5 can match the A1 and if I find that 10 frames per second is adequate then I will sell the A1. I only shoot sports for friends and for free so I am not a pro that must get the winning shot. I photographed soccer action for 10 years using the successive Canon 1D bodies and they worked well enough for my needs. The Canon 1D Mark 4 had up to 10 frames per second. So if the tracking works, 10 frames per second should be good enough for me. But I'll need to try them side by side. And maybe, while shooting sports, it will be nice to have 2 camera setups with different lenses. We'll see.
I had ordered my A7 IV 3 weeks ago and loved it. It was my first photography camera. I love photography so much that I bought a 70-200 gm2, + 2x teleconverter, 24-70 gm2, and the sony 90 macro. The other day I was like...I wanted even more out of photography so I ordered the a7R V for my 2nd camera. Sony said they would have it delivered by Jan 4th so I was bummed. Tonight when I checked my emails, they had shipped it and will arrive 12/22! So excited. The 1 thing I hope Sony would change is the CFexpress type A. Like we ALL hate it. It's slower and more expensive than type B. I really hope they change it for Cameras going forward.
the 70-200gm2 is a delight, wonderful lens to have
Which one is good for freelance photojournalism?
I just sold my R IV to get the R V. It'll be here in the morning :) I already own the A1 so no decision to make. I loved my R4 for portraits but it felt so slow with the buffer filling up because of the large files and slow SD cards. I hated being locked out of the camera settings until the buffer cleared. I mapped APS-C mode to the joystick button so I could quickly zoom in with a prime lens. However if the buffer was writing I couldn't get in or out of APSC mode. The focus system was OK but not great. This R5 just blew my mind when I saw the specs. It ticks all the boxes for my photography needs. I won't be using it for video so I don't mind that it doesn't have better video specs. I have the A1 for that and Sony would hurt the A1 sales if it gave the R5 better video specs. 3 different lossy sizes ends the argument about workflow time and storage needs vs a smaller MP camera. I size fits all now.
Did u still end up keeping ur a1 ?
@@ralphtime yes but I haven't used it since I got the RV. I haven't needed the speed and that is all I'd really used it for now. The RV is the perfect photography camera IMO
I have heard many reviewers mention that due to A1 does not have a "dedicated AI processor" on the A7RV therefore many not be possible to have the same level of subject recognition capability upgraded. So I went through the teardown photos of both cameras and examined the motherboard layouts and found them to be mostly identical. Then I re-watched the product announcement video for Sony A1 and found in the section of Real-time Eye AF at 9:54 and 10:41 both mentioned how improved A.I. technology is been implemented into A1 for subject recognition to work with the system that tracks and focus at 120/s. I think the A1 does have A.I. chip in it with full capability to do so just depending on Sony's willingness to add them into the firmware.
Nice video. How does the rolling shuttter perform between the A7R V and the A1?
Of course the A1 is clearly better
good vid , still divided but might end up getting 7RV
I'm coming back to Sony and just got the A7R V on Tuesday.
Great video. Love the R5 over the A1 for values sake…. Now saying Sony Im has been great about firmware updates, im just going to assume you have some relationships to protect 😂
Exactly. lol
Wildlife...A1. Good, helpful video.
Who is bast wedding photo/video
My heart is still set on getting an A1
Here I am still happy with the a7ii photos and 1080p videos. Lol, I'm old
I've been shooting Surf photography with the Sony rx10-4 which is a great overall camera. My next camera will be the Sony a1 to take it to the next level especially since I've been shooting more video.
you might want to look at the new A93. Blazing fast for fast moving things like surf
Pretty sure they can’t update A1 firmware to include a physical chip…
Just gotta wait for the α1 II 😅
This better be GOOD! Just bought the A1 this July (2023) 😡 Bought the A1 primarily for video (yeah) and it overheated the first time I tried to shoot Gerald Undone’s 8K internal to 4K external over HDMI to my Ninja. But the megapixel capability will open up creating “lobby standees” of my actors 🎭
Leica q3 for me
Just one question. If you have NO BUDGET LIMIT at all.. What will you choose? A1 or A7R5? This is the final verdict.
This ai stuff sounds great and maybe even works great.. but AI leads you to believe it gets better over time recognising stuff and I’m pretty sure they isn’t true lol
A1 is definitely the winner if you concern much about the high ISO shooting.
The difference isn’t discernible
a1 all the way
Maravilloso video . Decepción de la Sony A1, jamas volvere a realizar una inversión asi, y menos despues de lo que me ha ocurrido, Mas ahora sale otra camara con mas funciones, creo podrian actualizar a al sony A1, de la misma empresa o bien de la competencia, y mas baratas, Sony prefiere sacar otros modelos y dejar tirados los que tiene desde hace años, por otro lado quiero comertar lo sucedido con mi producto y manifestar que Sony no cuida a sus Clientes, ni con firware ni cambiando el producto este es mi caso: Ah si si la opiion de un producto no es buena, no la ponen en su pagina web. Un año después no recomiendo la Sony A1 a mi personalmente, me ha dado muchos problemas desde el segundo mes que la adquirí, y sigue dándolos, a lo mejor he tenido mala suerte con esta unidad, pero no me convence, jamás invertiré. Primero fue la wifi, al primer mes de tenerla un poco mas era abril, mayo, paso por SAT, ahora el color, hace como una especie de halos, como si se reventase, y ahora a veces no me detecta los objetivos y sale el número f. parpadeando aparte de quedarse colgada, y no tiene más que unos 10 mil disparos, y superbién cuidada, y con el 200- 600 me da problemas de enfoque es mi humilde opinión me consta que a otro usuario le paso lo mismo no sé si se la cambiaron o no. Solo quiero que funcione al 100x100. Y actualizaciones ni de firmware ni una. tocara otra vez enviarla al Sat y quedarme sin camara, lo buenos es que son rapidos y parecen eficientes, los nuevos problemas salieron despues
I'd get the A7IV and spend the difference on quality glass and travel.
What quality glass and travel combo are you going to get with $1300?
@@seanbowen4429 Got the Zeiss 40 Batis mint for 500, plenty left for a trip to NYC for a long weekend on economy flight and an affordable hotel in LIC. Or the Sigma 2470 new and a 4 day trip to Edinburgh. Which I did last year on budget.
useful 14mins.
Sony has been terrible with firmware updates. They’re finally listening to customers and implementing some updates, but not as good as Nikon.
"Sony has always been very very good with adding features with firmware updates"????? Really 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Did you mean to say "Sony has always been very good at shooting themselves in the foot when it comes to NOT adding features via firmware updates"? Welcome to the real world. ps. "The A7RV is very good in low light"? Oh please - chroma noise and Sony cameras go together like chicken and champagne. I am a Sony shooter and have been for 10 years and battling with noise beyond base ISO's is the biggest negative of the Sony system.
Sound with too much bass
She was and remains a soap dish with fancy chips. With the design of a child's appearance. And don't you dare call it a camera for professionals.
The A7R5 has issues with the continues tracking performance. Especially for smaller subjects like birds. I would never use the A7R5 for Wildlife therefore. And before someone is complaining now: I used it here for a tryout with the Sony 600mm 4.0 GM. No, not good. For Wildlife, save your money for the A1.
Exactly my experience. Reviews are all praising the A7Rv AI autofocus, but I find the A1 far superior for fast small wildlife
Same experience here. I have been shooting with the A7RV with the 100-400GM and overall it does focus very well but does struggle to find smaller birds or birds distant in the frame. A huge improvement over the A7RIV though.
A1 has 30 fps continuous shooting capability. Monirul Islam Dhaka, Bangladesh. 05 May 2024