Praying Mantis Kung Fu vs MMA Mixed Martial Arts. Do you remember the MMA guy that beat the Old Kiai Grandmaster? He's at it again, fighting against a Praying Mantis Kung Fu.
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The title should be Fred Flintstone vs Peter Pan.
#truth that was some shit technique on both sides
brysonz omg
loool, as soon as I read that I could see the resemblance
Wtf! Hahaha
brysonz 😂😂😂😂
When the fight starts, all mantis moves goes straight out of the window.
The praying mantis guy simply sprawled, and the mma guy made him self available to be hit. When you learn a technique or style you’re under the assumption that your opponent is gonna be defending themselves. The praying mantis guy simply capitalized off free punches. I’m not saying the MMA guy wasn’t fighting back, I’m saying the mantis guy recognized the ability to capitalize off a situation where he was not under any threat thus negating the need to use a learned technique.
not really.. tang lang quan does have lots of grab, throw, and grapple moves.. it also has moves of punching and kicking grounded enemy.
@@buckloski9522 the MMA guy was just fighting a gaint who was simply using his size to his advantage, not the insect style lol
Watch any full contact Kung Fu tournament. They all end up fighting like kick boxers. Because those ridiculous forms are hard to use in a real fight.
@@dagaffer2269 To be fair, those forms aren't supposed to be directly applicable to a fight. They help you learn footwork and coordination and were historically also there to help the instructors memorize and pass down the curriculum for the art. The katas/forms helped people to memorize and pass down the art in an era when books were hard to come by, so tradition had to be committed to memory and passed along orally. If you want any of it to work, you should be doing live sparring with any art and not just forms. Most of the "stances" aren't really stances as much as positions you move through while fighting. For example, kosa dachi (cross-leg stance from karate) is used in judo quite frequently when executing certain throws (like if you backstep into position to do seoi nage during randori) but it's not really a fighting stance, just a position you move through. Same with kiba dachi (horse stance in karate), which is frequently used in judo while performing the kata guruma throw. [These throws were originally part of the Karate curriculum, btw. Cf. "Funakoshi's throws"] Modern karate practitioners, however, don't really realize that these "stances" aren't actually fighting stances. Learning katas/forms with such "stances" (as a beginner) does help you get better coordination with your footwork. It also makes you strong in those awkward positions. Mantis especially emphasizes that "stances" are not actually fighting stances but positions you move through. And a lot of those forms look really goofy because some of the weird strikes are actually chin-na or grappling techniques, which look especially impractical when done solo. Gichin Funakoshi, the founder of Shotokan Karate, said "Formal stances are for beginners; later, one stands naturally. Perform prescribed sets of techniques exactly; actual combat is another matter." (this is part of a karate creed that's recited before class in all Shotokan dojos) Anyways, most of the traditional martial arts styles aren't supposed to look fancy when/if used for fighting. Kyokushin is karate and has katas just like Shotokan, but the fighting looks more like standard kickboxing because that's what karate is supposed to be like. Actual kung fu, when used for fighting/wrestling, becomes shuai jiao and sanda.
This wasn't the walkover the MMA was expecting to get. Mantis-boy didn't do much mantis, but he was no pushover and he was in better physical condition than Xu. It showed.
Having gone to a school that taught mantis, and one of the first akc approved mixed martial arts, I can tell you right now, that dude fights all mantis all the time. That technique that he uses to avoid the takedown is one of the first techniques that one learns in a seven-star class. Also the way he traps his opponents hands is a signature Seven Star move. The way he has mastered his leverage while grappling also using verticality and a low center of gravity for that reversal. 🤌 the guy is fighting for the win so he's not going to have competition level form. He's fighting super clean, though, which is not what one would see "on the streets". Mantis is REAL dirty. I think that was probably his biggest challenge in this fight, to not gouge eyes and pull cheeks out
What precisely do you think mantis is, other than conditioning? I love how mma fanboys go "he's just fitter" when your lads get beaten 😂
@@peterclarke7240 I think what he meant is that the guy didn't use any mantis style specific techniques per se
I didn't know praying mantis style included a lot of ground and pound...
Yes, it does have ground and pound. Although, this guy on the video doesn't know any real Mantis fist. He is just doing modern wushu while acting like a Mantis. Seven Star Mantis, Eight Step Mantis, Six Harmonies Mantis, and others have ground and pound.
Christopher Chaplin yes, it involves such especially when you are fighting an MMA monster.
@@silentwatcher1455 I think Seven Star, Eight Step, Six Harmony, and other Mantis artists should invite mma fighters to do matches with mma gloves and head gear for under 18. Receiving blows is a good way to get Iron Body training and can hone in on skills.
Hi Christopher Chaplin. just imagine an insect caught by a mantis & that insect has nowhere to go because the mantis keeps on pounding it by the mantis' claws. Cheers!
@@seky123 That must be Southern Tang Long then. Northern Tang Long does.
sadly, I saw neither 'praying mantis style' or 'mma'... what I DID see was the old adage: 'everyone has a plan until they get hit'
What that showed was the guy barely has any real experience fighting with his Mantis. If one commits his forms to muscle memory, he will use it even when hit in the face. This guy shamed Mantis...
+Dustin Jenkins I hope you are right.
same here, sadly no Praying Mantis Kung Fu. now im no expert but, i still have common sense in watching kufu movies. no Praying Mantis Kung Fu
If I'm not wrong the form that he performed was a xiandai wushu form, made for aesthetics only
You gotta understand that once you're in the ring or on the mat, everyone just punches and kicks. No form is involve in a real fight, lol.
wtf The pray mantis guy used his MMA skills and caught the MMA fighter off guard.
Yesss. This is evolution .
that was no mma fighter bruh
LOL you have no idea what you're talking about. Kung Fu styles are MMA styles.
Shit, all I saw was two guys doing whatever the hell they can to survive. No mantis was praying and the mma was mix with anything that will stop the other guy.
NO MANTIS WAS PRAYING ,LMAO FUNNY
Best comment..thanks
Bro lol
this was a good fight. the Kung fu guy prepared very well for MMA.
People get too focused on the usefulness of kung fu moves in a fight and forget that above all else, it's really good conditioning for your body and mind.
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Brandon Wells If it's Cobra Kai dvd MA is toast.lol
Brandon Wells lmao
😂😂💀
Yeah, that was a great Praying Mantis sprawl followed by classic Praying Mantis ground and pound.
@Paul Goodman It's more an issue of treating whether an art "has" certain" techniques as the same thing as "regularly training and actually being good at." Technically, BJJ "has" strikes: Those slow-motion symbolic slap-punches and clumsy 1993 Royce Gracie side kicks you teach once every sixth months when doing your obligatory "self-defense" class. But nobody in their right mind would ever brag about their "BJJ striking" skills.
When praying mantis kung fu guy was only a gimmick 😂
When the punches start flying, all styles of fighting basically devolve into just kicking and punching.
but elbows and knees can also be used
Not true, kung fu is just useless in a fight because you can't remember everything and react fast enough to use the blocks
@@multi-skilledsuperior1174 Kung fu isn’t useless in a fight. It’s simply not efficient against other art forms. Kung fu was designed to fight against other people who used Kung fu. It’s the same as if you put a wrestler in a boxing ring, it wouldn’t make sense.
@@the_monstah6378 wrestlers do great in mma and most no rules situations, and even agaisnt other grapplers, as bjj. Kung fu never does. It's more like aikido. UFC 1 showed what.work and what doesnt
@@the_monstah6378 So the only thing I need to do, to be invincible against someone using this trash 'art' is not to train it? Got it, buddy.
That was the MMA trained mantis
Treinado para o MMA.
When was the last time Praying Mantis knew how to sprawl.
Plenty of Kung Fu styles teach sprawling and ground fighting. Odds are he didn't exclusively train Mantis.
Sunny Bebop Sprawling is not part of any traditional Kung Fu repertoire that I am aware of. I believe he practices traditional Mantis and cross trained with MMA for his actual fighting. Good job though, regardless.
+phil yip there's about 5000 styles of Kung Fu out there. I'm sure plenty of them cover ground fighting. Many of the Tai Chi forms are even described as grappeling.
People need to realize traditional martial arts was the oringinal combative hand to hand combat. Sprawling has been taught in many styles, including Japanese karate. A martial art relies on certain techniques blocking, striking, and grappling, martial arts is as old as many of us. Yet people think punching someone in the face like in an MMA fight is more real. When really fighting has been around for centuries.mire likely more. I studied Kung fu, actually it's in their curriculum. Even if he trained MMA, he still learned the combative side of martial arts to apply his style. But when someone is a traditional martial artist we are discredited for the win. It doesn't matter the style, he trained, prepared, hit him strong hard and fast and defeated his opponent is that the point? Jeez people.
Then you don't know enough. Qin na is the grappling and submission system of kung fu. Many kung fu styles also have shuai jiao moves, which is Chinese wrestling.
I like how as soon as the fight starts you can tell its actually just 2 styles of MMA
Ahahhaahahhahaahh MMA shit demonstration in 3...2...1...
MMA fundamentally is not even a style.Its "rules" that incorporates various Martial Arts
I mean since it's 'Mixed' martial arts, any style is a style of MMA
Do you even know MMA means hahahah
Damn, when he was ground and pounding him with those Mantis fists and then doing mantis footwork to sprawl, crazy shit!
I was really waiting for the suplex
exactly
That seemed odd even on replay. even a simple body twist would have worked in that position. Rigged?
Wow... I didn't know that they taught sprawls in Mantis.
yes they do. Mantis is not a pure striking system there is also much grappling in the system. The thing people need to understand in this video is when you put gloves on a martial artist and enter a ring with rules then you do limit the individuality of the arts.
Yes they do, Universal. Well, the real ones do.
Sure do, ThaBlackKarateka!
The MMA fighter was pretty shit...like who charges for the legs from across the area. That didn't do shit other then trying over and over again to take the mantis to the ground. If it didn't work the first time, idk why he did again and again. The kung fu guy was decent, but the mma fighter was a rookie. He couldn't even take a punch.
CTI Most mma fighters I see charge head first trying to tackle. Honestly it's just a street fight really.
Ok for real. The kung fu guy isn't bad. He did a good job of defending against tackles, held his ground in grappling, had pretty good footwork which he showed when moving away from the tackle, and his long guard worked pretty well. So ya, he's just a better fighter. Respect to both fighters for having the courage to fight tho.
The guy in black isn't Xu Xiao Dong (the fighter who beat up the Kiai master and more recently the Wing Chun master) and the Japanese guy who was a practitioner of kung fu is like many other people who get into mma, someone who trained in a traditional martial art in their youth and then cross trained with mma techniques to enter this strange rules fight sport. As far as anyone watching should be concerned they are both below average mma fighters.
Yup good observation and one more thing the mantis not praying at all at this fight.
Ahahhahahahahahah MMA shit demonstration in 3...2...1...
Before even watching the match, I was thinking to myself, I wonder if the kung fu practitioner would utilize any of those fancy stances during the bout.
Well, This is Amateur MMA and you can't expect mind blowing skill being displayed. Congratulations to the Mantis fighter for winning this match, as he gets more comfortable fighting in MMA, I'm sure we will see more Mantis Techniques in his fights and definitely more of that solid punching power he possesses.
Oh... So it's the fighter, not the system? 😂 You fucking HYPOCRITES😂
Funny how all that elegant form goes out the window in an actual fight
More like “playground brawl” I think a UFC top 25 fighter would take seconds to finish either one...
I think a shit ufc fighter would
CM Punk could probably beat these two.
@@keltrepes2534 hahahhahahahahah
Praying mantis vs MMA? Since when did 'praying mantis' become a synonym for crappy MMA. This is just 2 amateur MMA fighters with one of em claiming to be using kung fu...
That's true... although, that was nice to see a kung fu guy using one arm to frame the smaller guy, looking for a opening.
Viktor Stassijns lol the thing is for most fighters what they practice goes out the window when actually fighting another fighter.
that's because in a real fight all that kung-fu bullshit don't work... which is why the UFC started... UFC no1 to no5 are great gracie finishes some Shaolin kung-fu dude off in 20 seconds
Silent Psykosis That's so true! What some folks happens to think it is that forms/katas teaches the real application. It just mimics. In some bad cases, mimics in a way that get you used to bad use of the body weight, distance between the feet and poor balance. That's how important it is to understand during first classes.
Silent Psykosis kata are not useful try that in a street fight
... I didn't see any praying mantis style in this fight at all... he just completely abandoned it to try to "fight for real"
Notice that the mantis fighter almost beats the MMA fighter to death with all those hammer fists? Mantis is an EXTREMELY hammer fist heavy style.
1:47 awwwwwwwwwwww they're sharing a moment. How cute.
That was super weird. The MMA guy looked like he wanted to grapple, had double unders at one point, back control at another, and just didn't do anything.
I don't get why people say the kung fu guy lost his "grace" I mean, the forms and flipping you see while they practice solo are more oriented to be calisthenic/cardio exercise. The actual strikes themselves and whatever sort of sprawling or grappling comes with the style isn't gonna look pretty in a fight. Fighting is ugly, it's cool, but it's seriously very ugly.
Nothing the Mantis exponent did was remotely mantis. The first thing he did was sprawl, then he was throwing boxing style punches. How_V3ryAwful is right, fighting is ugly, fast and brutal. It bears no resemblance to the choreographed dance of film fighting. In my opinion, the closest thing to actual fighting would be any combination of boxing, muay thai and jujitsu. Anyone who's had more than 5 real fights would know that fights ALWAYS get into one of 3 segments. You start tapping a guys jaw, he'll clinch and grapple and try to slam you etc. People should be more practical about combat.
***** Amen mate. I like that insight. It's why I wanna continue doing a martial art after graduation lol
How_V3ryAwful. yeah but you should still be able to tell a style from another this guy was using sloppy MMA not Kung Fu
Raphael Rufino you couldn't be more wrong. watching mma training and jiu jitsu training videos it looks just like the matches and competitions and when they are caught on vid in a street fight.
Raphael Rufino I'm telling what I have observed and what I have seen they train to do the same in the cage. No fancy shit for the camera.
lol that's intresting I've never seen a praying mantis takedown an insect and punch it repeatedly, the whole aspect of the praying mantis went out the window 😂
Bjj _Legend Not really, there's a difference between forms and fighting. Forms just help build strength and help with muscle memory.
Bjj _Legend Not rly. Mantis is mostley about footwork and grapling.
Well I mean I guess he could have ripped his arms off before eating him. But I feel like that would have been outside of the parameters of the fight.
Bjj _Legend as one guy already said its hard to do mantis claw effectively with gloves. Plus im not sure what the rules are on pressure points. I also dont think he could have kill billed him an plucked an eye out. Alot of techniques probably aren't allowed in a ring.
Fast strike is mantis. Strike n retrack.he used it until he got a good one in and hammer the shyt out of the mma guy.
That doesnt look like Xu Xiaodong to me. Also, the supposed "MMA" guy has a Japanese flag on the front of his gi. That absolutely would not be Xu Xiaodong, who is from Beijing.
Ajahhahahahahah yeah yeah you like to dream 😂😂😂😂 i m sorry your MMA is fake and shit
Not every mma fighter is xu xiadong. The guy in the video is different mma fighter
@@chuckyolives2000 ahahahahah silence please, mma must stay in silence and go home to cry! No excuses , mma is loser vs a Real kung fu fighter , stop.
@@mikesmith-ie6st Bro I do kung fu too and you just make us all look stupid. Shut up.
@@thejoojoo9999 you re fake as well, You shut up, Deceitful man! 😂😂😂😂
Where's the praying mantis techniques?
praying manthis went to prayer mode and mma mode activated ha ha
mantis is a complete system grappling wrestling striking subs
On the MMA guys face...
It helps to have a 10" reach on your opponent.
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Looks a HELL lot more like a fight. Mad props.
what fight promotion is this? (cant read the logos onthe mat)
I think the MMA fella done well. He just fought against a lanky younger fighter who didn't use any Kung Fu. They brought out their best fighter for the old man that beat their master. That was just an MMA fight, you can only say he had a Kung Fu back ground. MMA is just about sharing techniques to make our own fighting styles better.
Goku Vegeta i doubt the guy actually trains much mma, he had a underhook and somehow fell to the ground, than didnt even go full guard
funny neither seemed to employ a "style" other than swing and grab. any world star video will display as much technique and skill.
lol @ the dude in black voluntarily giving up control of the mantis mans back
guys in the intro and guys in the actual fight are different
i don't care who wins, i just want the referee's pants.
It's called hakama my friend
I would love to see the praying mantis guy reenact - ideally to others from his Kung fu class - what he imagined of what he did in the fight
BEST COMMENT HERE LOLL
MMA SHIT demonstration in 3...2...1... ahahahaha
The UFC should adopt this style of ring. Out of bounce area but NO walls, or ropes. This give a fair advantage to both strikers and grapplers; by eliminating 90 degree angles from the match.
of all the self proclaim martial art style this is the most practical I saw
One thing should be made clear to all martial artists who want to stay up to date on modern attacks: know at the very least, how to recover and survive clinches and ground attack. The stylistic flourishes do add character but wast time. I’d like to think in the past Kung fu fighters training was mostly drills, sparring, and lots of conditioning. The Martha Stuart treatment with time wasting multitude of forms and aesthetics came later once masters discovered mortgages.
Yeah, very true.
Wow...so much mantis in there it was like he was the real thing!!!!! 🤦♂️.....lol!!!!!!!!
Lol
where'd they get their black belts? a big and tall store?
I love how graceful training can be sometimes then the fight comes out and its all gritty as fuck this is why sparring is so important
No Kung Fu seen here.
No, he's saying that because the praying mantis guy basically used mma (and he was pretty good at it, particularly sprawling).
yes because mma invented fist to the face
David Kordesh You believe cuz you don't know much about praying mantis? No surprise, almost any od the people talking shit on kung fus are the first to be brainwashed from hollywood.
No, it's because he was using patently MMA moves with a mantis stance. You gotta be a troll, huh?
David Kordesh That means you know better praying mantis? It's not smart to think you can tell something about a martial art if you don't know it well.
People who didn't see the Mantis Style don't know Kung Fu. @1:31 the Praying Mantis Stance. @1:38 Praying Mantis trapping skills. @1:39 the Mantis pressure strikes to pressure points. @1:44 again trapping skills using arms. @2:10 the Mantis throw. @2:58 back to the Mantis Stance, keeping distance. @3:04 Mantis neutralizing opponent to grapple him to ground. @3:11 Praying Mantis finished the fight with Mantis strikes.
Or as normal people would phrase it, he punched while standing, then sprawled and punched some more.
What was the name of this fighting competition pls?
Omg this looks like a trip to the hospital waiting to happen.
guess he isn't so tough fighting guys under 60 years
commit seppuku
Sujit Sharma w Well he did fight someone way bigger than him and the old man deserved that beating for claiming he was invincible and ripping off his students.
exactly lowie, he got what he deserved
Kung Fu guy mysteriously decides to use no kung fu when in MMA fight.
The most exciting part of this video is the music.
Was expecting the mantis guy to get his ass whooped. Pleasantly surprised.
meh two amateur MMA, seems like the Mantis guy was an okay athlete who incorporated good hammer fists, which is why he looked so spazzy fighting with gloves on also why CMA don't work in MMA at all, it's the gloves & rules mane, the other fighter trained in boxing & judo? he seemed like a 'tough' guy but overall not much athletic experience, he could've won if he just flipped the Mantis fighter over, but the Mantis fighter knew how to sprawl, and yes sprawling is part of Mantis strategy actually Mantis is about keeping a deep, grounded stance whether sprawling or striking, and delivering catches, parries, and hammer fists rapid fire
relytive17 CMA don't work in MMA? have you seen Sanda fighters?
yeah, and most of the time it boils down to basic muay thai
relytive17 MT? Are you kidding me? do you know the history of Sanda? dude it seems you are talking just because you can not because you know what you say
Sanda is the sparring aspect of modernized Gong-Fu (whereas Wushu is the form aspect) It uses boxing gloves & helmets, groin cups, and chest guards at times, it's essentially Muay Thai rules while incorporating throws & takedowns, and at times partial submissions, it appears of three popular styles of CMA, Hung Ga and Choi Ly Fut are the "best" for training for Sanda (whereas Wing Tsun, the most popularized CMA is best for personal exercise, posture, and CC self-defense because of the inherit nature of Chi Sao and how gloves in most martial arts tournaments inhibit that) Did I get that right, please correct me.
JoshMetal316 you just got told!
First, I am trying to understand the opening. Was that supposed to be falling plum blossom (the form)? Second, I am reading a number of comments that mention practical combat and forms, etc., etc., and the age old statement that forms are calisthenics. This statement is far from the truth, not only in Chinese Martial Arts but traditional arts as a whole. Forms are books, period. They are books with movements that have applications that can be used and understood and interpreted differently. With that sad, the interpretation of applications and forms (in their purest and more contemporary sense) can be extremely lethal and effective. With that said, it’s extremely difficult for people, who have a traditional understanding or martial arts to get into the age old pissing contest of who is better what style is better, etc., etc. One point made is fighting is ugly. I absolutely agree and a mma exhibition isn’t designed to illustrate how effective, or not, any application is. In short, you have one set of eyes, a limited set of joints/limbs/body parts and an ego stroke isn’t worth damaging either of those to show someone else what is better. There are countless applications and techniques that could be applied as counters for a variety of attacks. However, the big questions of why and what is the end game persist. Do you really want to break a wrist, damage a throat, take out a knee, gouge and eye? In this context I hope not because if so, there are larger problems here besides what competitors do in these instances. Often you see MMA fighters beating someone senseless in these scenarios. Why? What is the end game? Is it mine is bigger than yours, because that is a losing game that solves nothing and gets people hurt. When people ask this style over that style on a conventional barbaric sense the solution is simple, a .45 caliber.
FreedMind1992 You sure said a lot of nothing.
can anyone link me the times in this video when the Praying Mantis Kung Fu guy actually used Praying Mantis Kung Fu tecniques?
this looks like two people discovering what hugging is
So many people commenting on this that don't seem to know that CMA use grappling. The style I was taught 8 step praying mantis(a northern style) uses grappling,throws,and small joint manipulation in addition to striking. That said there is not much in this video that reflects that.
Muay Thai fighter wins in MMA - Acceptable. BJJ player wins in MMA - Acceptable Kung Fu student wins in MMA - "That's not kung fu, his opponent was an amateur, this was fixed....blah blah" Keep making excuses guys, it really is quite amusing.
He didn't do one technique of Praying Bullshit mantis. it was a wrestling sprawl with punching etch. Stop the non sense comments.
In my opinion, the first two are acceptable because they actually use the techniques that their arts entail consistently and most important, effectively. In this video, I saw none of the techniques of the Praying Mantis style being utilized.
Grover Reed III Exactly.
Dude you're delusional. If this was Kung fu its horrible. The KF dude lost all the beautiful movement and grace he showed in the beginning and attacked with kind of bad form and the MMA guy looked terrible. His punches looked sloppy and slow. If he was an actual MMA fighter he could have choked him out on the ground. He looks like a guy that only trains in MMA in the weekends...
Lego people are trying to express is he's clearly not winning with techniques that are traditionally found in his art period at the end of the day it looks just the same as the other guy MMA. So I think people are frustrated that he's claiming one thing but not showcasing his art
what tournament is this
When I listen to videos with ear phones I can feel my teeth and face vibrating in sync with the music :p
Like always... The mantis kungfu become freestyle fight. Lol
mantis guy using hammer fists?
Yeah hammer fist shows up a lot in Kung fu
Hammer first is the very first strike thrown in the 7 Star Mantis Form Tou Tao... Let me guess, you must be a casual who doesn't really know anything about Kung-Fu, Praying Mantis or martial arts in general, right?
again not real kung fu.
Hammer fist is first attack that you can learn in this style. It's real kung-fu. Not standing and looking poor, but be flexible and counter other styles. Not every kungfu is dead now, mantis is very hard now.
That ridiculous praying mantis form at the start of the vid 😳😳😳😂😂😂😂
Awesome tune!
its all MMA
Kung fu winner ( adapting mma)
That was some good kung fu! Lol
Vicious attacks, devastating defenses, amazing and shocking. I elect this video for best picture and Nobel peace prize for excellence in video photography & cinemagrophy. Two thumbs up a decidedly masterful piece of work. Brilliant editing non stop realistic action from start to finish. Really takes the elevator to the top with high speed psychological thrills and hits the floor at full speed like a torpedo of truth silencing onlookers believers and skeptics.
Great fight!
The thing I don't like about these my martial art vs your martial art videos is that different environments require different strategies. Yeah, a pound and ground fighter will take down a stand up fighter almost every time. But what happens if you're in the outside world where the guy might have friends around? You definitely don't want to go to the ground in that situation.
Amadeus Eisenberg I don't think you understand what mma is.its not a style,its a ruleset that allows you to use any styles or techniques within those rules. however, sparring mma rules is the best way to prepare for self defense.
If the guy has friends, what you want won't matter. If they want you down, you'll go down.
blockmasterscott wrong
Best to avoid fighting multiple people to begin with. Idc what martial art you study.
blockmasterscott you're right, in the streets of you can't run you put your back to a wall & do the best you can to survive....masvidal said it best, he was the greatest sucker puncher + 50 yard dash-er......if you try bjj in the wrong situation you're getting stomped....wrestling is different if you're proficient enough to throw dudes around & control the onslaught but that would take size & en extreme skills........idk, it's just better to avoid a street fight
Every time a kung fu guy wins = MMA keyboard warrior: DAT'S NAH KUNG FOOEY!! Every time an MMA guy loses = MMA keyboard warrior: DAT'S NAH EMEHMAY! Kung Fu can be/is as simple as pummeling someone with a right cross. We may call it "Black Tiger Steals Heart" but a parry and a right cross is all it is. -Don Wilson, White Dragon Kung Fu, 11 world kickboxing champ, defeated several Muay Thai fighters and people who went on to succeed in MMA. -Paul Vizzio, Fu Jow Pai Kung Fu, 4 time world kickboxing champion, only 1 defeat, won 55 underground fights, fought 150 amateur boxing matches. -Joe Lewis, Karate background, then Jeet Kune Do Kung Fu taught by Bruce Lee, First American Kickboxing champion, first World Full Contact Karate champion, went 10-0 with 10 K.O's before retiring, then coming back and winning 7 more fights. -Kathy Long, Kung Fu San Soo, 5 time world kickboxing champion, current small winning record in MMA despite being in her 50's. -Bonnie Canino, Juai Kung Karbo Kung Fu, 4 time world kickboxing champion, then became world Boxing champion. -Cung Le, Sanshou, 3 time world kickboxing champ, MMA World champ -Roy Nelson, Ng Ga Kuen Kung Fu, MMA champ. -Yi Long, Notorious Shaoling kickboxer, has went the distance with and defeated Buakaw. Just to name a few, and not to mention every Sanshou fighter out there currently dropping MT guys on their ass.
Lestat220289 - So what you're saying is that this kung-fu guy should have spent his time learning boxing instead.
Lestat exactly 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I didn't see much preying mantis in the big guy's fighting. It seems once the mma guy tried to take the fight to the mat with grappling, the big guy just used his size and strength to overpower the little guy. So it wasn't really a test of fighting styles, just two guys who know how to fight. And the big guy won.
Watch any full contact Kung Fu tournament. They all end up fighting like kick boxers. Because those ridiculous forms are hard to use in a real fight.
Kung Fu means "skill attained over time through effort."
Nah..
Viidakkomehu yes, that’s what it means.
@@jaymiddleton1782 It means big work or great manifestation.
Viidakkomehu in China, it refers to any study, learning, or practice that requires patience, energy, and time to complete. In its original meaning, kung fu can refer to any discipline or skill achieved through hard work and practice, not necessarily martial arts. Which I summarised as “skill attained over time through effort,” which is what it means. Who told you it means great manifestation?
Praying mantis won
ya well the lets pretend praying mantis kung fu guy did win. but he was not useing mantis style of kung fu. it was alot of hammer fists. and wild kicking. not impressed.
It was praying mantis style kung fu that got him the win
What show is this?
the kungfu guy has knowledge on how to defend against low grapple techniques.
And MMA Legend is end... they are only illusion
To be honest, while you didn't see any mantis forms being used against the MMA guy, you can see that the praying mantis practitioner was much better conditioned than the MMA fighter. A huge part of that is because praying mantis is a physically demanding style. So certain traditional kung fu styles have their merits when it comes to conditioning.
He did not even use any Kung Fu. This video is proof Kung Fu is just for show, when your master Kung Fu practitioner does not even use it in a fight. He would know best.
flipwarrior Kung Fu is for strength, flexibility and conditioning. Bodhidharma introduced it to Shaolin to whip the fat, lazy monks into shape. It's core is very much yoga. So it does have an application in fight training. Your range of motion, longevity, balance and yoga (your body, mind, and spirit being yoked and working as one) benefits the one who has also trained his fighting abilities. Without training for fighting, you will not know how to fight, but you will definitely live longer if you manage to avoid fighting ;-) ... if you decide to take up fighting at any time, you will learn much quicker and perform much better, having a martial arts background.
I'm still waiting for his praying manthis...lol
@flipwarrior the only fact is that you don't know what is kung fu ^^
The most flowery of legit martial arts, while looking flowery in training, is intended as a training method to create muscle memory for the body mechanics. When you go into a more serious fight, no competent martial artist is going to do the extra unnecessary movements that they do when they're practicing a form - they don't even do them in practical application. In the end, this was still only a sports match with rules.
+Heimdal001 Ha! Im glad someone gets that. This guy's actual fighting technique was practically nonexistent, but his physical fitness is off the chart. He takes hits like raindrops soothing his skin and that sprawl and bridge was f*ken amazing.
That dude's MMA? He's more like the drunk guy fighting on the sidewalk outside the bar.
Definitely a pleasure to see someone beat that fool. But where's the praying mantis?
I have watched the video of beating a so-called Kiai Grand master and the opponent who beat him became highly popular not because of his legitimacy as an MMA fighter, but for exposing a bullshit martial arts grand master. Even in that fight, as processional martial arts coaches we saw this so-called MMA fighter was also not a legitimate MMA fighter. It was no need to have an MMA fighter to defeat that retarded Kiai master even a school boy could have defeated him easily. I would say this so called-MMA fighter who defeated that Kiai master was just a simple brawler and he was not an MMA fighter at all though we gave the credit for his victory. But keep remember that we didn't appreciate him as an MMA fighter. We paid the credit as he exposed a lie. That is it. In the other hand he cannot be proud himself as an MMA fighter with his that victory because he was actually not into a real combat. In the conclusion, I wanna show up that beating a retarded one doesn't make anyone as an MMA fighter. And I would say this guy is not an MMA fighter at all. I don't know whether the other fighter is a real Praying Mantis Kung Fu practitioner or not but I am not seeing any praying mantis application here. I see this as a street brawl without having a knowledge of fighting.
Yeah yeah yeah...... Whatever.....
I have to agree with you, I'm not sure how skilled this mma guy is. He easily beat up the old guy because he literally couldn't fight but anyone could've done that. I didn't see that much technique in either fight really.
" so-called MMA fighter was also not a legitimate MMA fighter"
Nice gatekeeping.
Chemicalkinetics - To be an MMA fighter you have to actually compete in MMA. If this guy hasn't then he isn't an MMA fighter. It's not that hard.
The "MMA" guy has full mount, but give it up for no apparent reason? LOL! The Kung Fu guy is going hammer fist and trying to clinch to a take down? LOL! Where was the Kung Fu? Was looking forward to seeing some flying mantis at least. This is very poor Kung Fu propaganda. It's embarrassing, actually
@Y Ad, Ganryujima MMA circuit is legit. And that takedown happens to BE a Mantis takedown.
Lol he wanted to see choreographed movie style kung fu, where movie stars never tire and are invincible to pain.
No king fu... Its pritty much a noob kick boxer that can't elbow and he didn't do any king fu combos.
Not only that he had his back for crying out loud, how do you not capitalize on that?
yep.
Who else didn’t expect the Kung fu guy to have take down defense love to see this
Praying Mantis Kung Fu proves it is best martial art form in the world. I was going to train MMA but forget that. I am praying mantis all the way!
Hahaha... Karma for the mma guy..
yep this time, he was the old guy...
Coco Nate that mma guy was so bad this almost looked staged.
dude it is not the same guy
Its not the same guy idiot... How about fcking kungfu vs mma like conor mcgregor or others ? Surely that guy will be smash untill he's face may broken
I like the praying mantis dude. He adapted his style with some grappling and ground and pound
MMA Legend end is in 3...2...1...
@@mikesmith-ie6st get a life, you're all over the place treating this small win as a treasure, and besides, this isn't even the famous Chinese mixed martial artist, the guy is japanese.
He actually wasn’t even getting hit when they stopped the fight
...there was only about 2 seconds of any remote resemblance of Mantis KF.....it's MMA vs MMA.
To all the "experts" here please note that any of these fighters will beat your sorry ass blindfolded and one arm behind the back. Kung fu guy is decent at MMA to say the least. good TKD and stand up game both considerably better than his opponent's which won him the fight. No kung fu? What were you expecting to see defending a takedown via a praying mantis stance?Man some people are too daft in this world.
Agree 100% Ig Os
muay thai would destroy these 2 men.
Kung Fu is useless, all forms.
+vertebrae. MMA is useless! And your mother is useless!
@@goldmine9829 snappy come back, genius.
So, does anyone know if this guy really is a student of traditional wushu or is he just mixing up sport taolu with mma skills for Chineese propogandistic media?
+Orion Almost certain that he is not doing this for Chinese propaganda. The guy is a Japanese fighting on a Japanese show. He is the worst possible candidate for the Chinese government to show case Chinese martial art.
Orion he's clearly a Japanese guy, so propagandizing for China would be extremely unlikely.
"There are no bad styles, only bad fighters" Donnie Yen. Ip Man
A movie about a bad style lol
He did better than the old guy who thought he had superpowers.
Let's put it this way... based on MMA ring fighting, with all it's rules... the only winning martial arts style is Kickboxing/Grappling... that's it!! Change the fight environment to include open spaces, less rules, weapon usage, fighting more than one opponents.. then the ideal fight style for each environment would be different...If you guys want kungfu for MMA, you have Sanshou.. others were suited for different environments..
The rules are: no groin strikes, no eye gouging, no knees to downed opponent, no strikes to the spine. If your martial art is so reliant on these techniques that it can't win without them, then it's not much of a fighting "art". More of a "common assault."
Calvin Blue
No head butts, no 12-6 elbows, no small joint manipulation. These are all things that can change a real fight but aren't allowed in MMA. and these are effective techniques, especially in the clinch or when someone is going for a submission. Honestly I'm gonna head butt the crap out of you if you try to get a rear naked choke or something similar. The rules can create an unfair advantage for the one attacking especially on the ground
You head butt on a rear naked choke & you're fully exposing your throat. Takes seconds to get choked. I'll let you head butt me all day as long as I get the choke out k.o. & no ones going to allow you to touch their pressure points without getting hit. Most martial arts give false expectations.
I get that you want to keep you chin tight to your chest but a head butt is very effective in grapple/clinch range. Idk why you mentioned pressure points, maybe you thought small joint manipulation is pressure points? but its something like attacking the fingers
Too many useless flower movement , muay thai will destroy their ass in second
Ted 904 muay thai is ceremonial kick boxing. It loses to actual boxing any day of the week
VikingII you do know that most the people in the UFC have a muay thai background
What happened here, is 'MMA' guy got humbled. He goes around beating the crap out of 'defense' artists, but this opponent was aggressive and actually fought. Then 'kung fu' guy's superior physical fitness just overwhelmed him, like a tide rolling in.
Jalen Yu do you know that the most of people in the UFC have karate background?
Muay Thai , karate and BJJ i guess
As soon as the fight began, praying mantis disappeared
Mantis went flying, brawling come instead!