I took a 3080 eGPU apart!!! - Aorus Gaming Box
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eGPUs, they're nothing new, and we've checked out a water-cooled one before, but Aorus did something interesting with this one that has a 3080 in it. Alex decided that we should take it apart and check it out!
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Sorry for the Audio issues!!! Our mic had issues during the recording, it'll be better going forward.
okay if you cant get it fixed then good subtitles would be nice
hurry!
Cool
Is this a case of a checkbox that forgot to be checked ? In software I mean. I'm just curious. Keep up the nice work lads.
Sweet
didnt realise how used to the good audio I had gotten
Really makes you think
Yea sometimes you need a bad example to show you how good things currently are
true. sadly i still see youtube channels that run with this kind of audio every upload they create like Attorney Tom :(
@@Daiwek It's not easy or cheap to get good audio.
Audio ain’t that bad. Seems like lavalier mic failed and had to fall back on the mic on camera they use for syncing audio to video in post. Sure it’s soft and tinny but ain’t crackly and buzzy.
I'd love to see a video of you actually throwing that GPU in a desktop to see if performance would be different/better!
How do you feel that I commented?
Same
Same
Was thinking the same thing
Yes I would love to see a test with : - normal desktop 3080 - 3080 egpu connected to desktop via thunderbolt - 3080 egpu connected to desktop via pcie This would allow us to see if performance drop comes from thunderbolt or mobile cpu bottleneck
Try get the card into a desktop and see whether it was really the eGPU hardware causing the poor FPS or the card itself.
Now that would be a very interesting video i would watch.
It was probably the fact that at most the eGPU had 4 PCIe Gen3 lanes connecting it.
@@iwontliveinfear and Valheim runs like dogshit on literally everything depending on how terraformed/built an area is, w/ super low system utilization! My RTX 2060, and my gf's 1650 perform almost identical, till you end up out on the ocean in the game. Major optimization issues!
@@jamesarmenti8876 yeah I made a similar argument. I think the title used was more of an issue then the unit itself. They should have tested across multiple games as the egpu is not a standard configuration and requires different tuning for optimization then a standard card in a mobo. So in a game with poor optimization and drivers that haven't been updated for that game. An egpu is going to take a much bigger hit. As it doesn't have the bandwidth to just muscle past bad coding.
I was going to write exactly the same thing!
Its nice to see Gigabyte is reusing old VHS Camcorder bags :-)
That sux especially if that eGPU cost so much money. It makes Alex looks more like a plumber with that bag , and his cap too.
I would love to see you put this card in a normal desktop and benchmark it, just to see how the card itself and the cooling solution actually perform without bottlenecks
Exactly
This.
this has already been done a few years ago. Jay did this and made a video about it. TB is garbage for anything besides monitors and storage.
Did that with 1080 in old aourus egpu (was easier because it was pretty standard air cooled card with normal connector, I just plug it to my desktop and it worked). Performance difference ~25-30%. I am still running that 1080 in my sfx desktop I don't really understand why their experience is this bad. I remember my egpu was kinda bad before I installed TB firmware update, then it ran very smoothly. My primary use case for the egpu was taking it with my laptop to the conference and running vr no the showfloor. Ihad 0 problems with that (and VR is very sensitive to frame drops). Hell at home I spent close to 100h in vr running from egpu wtihout any issues.
HARVEST THE eGPUs
Fun fact: it is a normal gigabyte 3080 in there, the gigabyte 3080 also has those wierd connectors under the shroud, because the power cables are extended over the flow through design, lookup a teardown of it
"This desktop will cost you about 2300$." About that, your looking at 2500$ for the 3080 alone right now ;_;
You guys didn't really answer the question of why the performance is so terrible... You tested it on one laptop and one game and called it a day? Why?
really seems like Alex made up his mind before the video and didn't wanna waste time on this. They just wanted to take it apart. I would have rather seen games like GTA or Tomb Raider, ya know, ones they benchmark often and are more optimized.
It's short circuit, not an in-depth review, that's what LTT is. Sure, they could have done a better job, but they don't take hours to make these short videos, they have other things and projects to do for LTT.
This is the shit tier channel. Quick looks at tech that's cool and most likely a company reaching out to show off their stuff but not interesting enough for the main channel.
@@AL-lh2ht Only if they were quick (short) videos and not filter for 10mins+ :(
--- @@mbsfaridi Even though the duration could be over ten minutes, the truth still is that these "short"-videos are faster to make production-wise: Especially far less fancy-(effect-)editing alongside for the most part "wing-it"-recording-sessions ( as in, yes is some script. But otherwise there is no rehearsing and no "bloopers", so for the most part the "script" is to tell about the main-content of video, minus some scenarios where the intention is "surprise me" ). ---
Valheim dropping frames is a feature I'm fairly sure at this point.
yeah seems like a common unity issue , POE 2 has the same issue cant get 60FPS on a Mid tier GPU
Yeah using Valheim as an example is basically useless. It's not optimised at all
A 3090 and 5950x. gets 20ish fps in an area with a moderate amount of terraforming and building. My old 1060 equipped laptop gets the same fps... Both the cpu and gpu max out at like 20% utilization. It's definitely not a good benchmark game.
@@Pr0fPyr0 that has nothing to do with unity, its the developers that cant use the quite good optimisation tools unity give you. You cant throw stuff into a engine and hope it will run perfect
Yeah my 1070 also has pretty bad framedrops in more densely built areas. Outside or away from large structures I can easily reach 80-100FPS @3440x1440 at very high settings but inside of buildings it often goes down to the 50s. And sometimes it just straight up freezes for a split second. Valheim definitely need some performance optimization. The freezes are the worst.
Honestly this was about the shittiest "benchmark" I have ever seen. "I have no idea if it's an issue with the CPU or the GPU".... That would have taken 10 seconds to check
this is SC, an unboxing channel. There was no "benchmark" here. Seems like you're new here
@@RashidTak uh... Yes there was. That's my point exactly. People familiar with SC will get that it was just a quick un-scientific test. But Joe schmoe that searches for this product and sees this may not. What's the point of even doing the "test" if you don't want people to pay attention to it
"Super weird-a$$ connectors" Now this is the technical info/professionalism that I come here for 😂
For sure 😁 10:00 though in all seriousness, I believe these are Gigabyte boards and all their modern GPUs have these flat 8 pin connectors now
PRO TIP : Disable iGPU and dGPU in your XPS, after you connect eGPU to get proper results.
Also run all tests with the integrated display disabled to get an accurate look at what the card can do without the bottleneck of sending the display signal through the same cable giving it instructions.
@@nightcorefusion3884 I am using my eGPU with 3060Ti as docking station for XPS 15, never even tried to use it for internal screen. But to be honest I am shocked with level of incompetence in this video.
@@livemadseason I have a feeling when you buy an eGPU you'd want it to just work out the box when you plug it in, without having to disable both the iGPU and dGPU in your laptop. Also if you can't use the internal screen than the eGPU makes even less sense, cause you basically have to use it at home, where just buying a desktop would be cheaper
also make to reinstall all nvida drivers
even pro'er tip: don't buy an egpu! its stupid and you'll never get your money's worth.
I've honestly never seen an eGPU perform so badly, there's clearly something wrong with their setup. Something is way off.
They probably left the integrated GPU and the dedicated 1650Ti of the laptop turned on and not setting the 3080 as default.
@@BigMetalDaddy1301 They didn't say that they did that. The dock was the alternative to the egpu, with just using the 1650 in the laptop.
@@fretboardrunner you were right, i should have paid more attention.
@@BigMetalDaddy1301 Still probably something wrong with the setup. I wonder what it is and how happy Gigabyte is about this video.
Yep something definitely not right - in my experience possibly the CPU hitting thermal limits and bottlenecking the eGPU. I ended up having to use Intel XTU to limit wattage and the frame drops exhibited in this video went away
*Checks link* SOLD OUT Dam, I didn't even get a chance to consider
The whole world is slowly shaking its head. We understand.
Good chance they've all be stripped from their eGPU enclosure already and are now in some ghetto rigged mining farm.
@@gillesbaudeweyns6802 lol good one haha
Jesus Christ it's difficult to listen to Alex talk about eGPUs when he's got no knowledge of them. Try it for a headless mini PC with a thunderbolt connection.
wdym headless mini pc with thunderbolt connection?
Could you try the GPU in a normal pc setup? Would be interesting to see the performance of the card
this is what we want
unfortunately LTT has gotten too big to be taking request about small stuff :((( if you're really curious i'd recommend searching for small channels that might cover this in more detail
@@davidyang9902 Your brain is actually a potato.
@@alyssa2242 I'll take that as a compliment, it's one tier above being a walnut
@@davidyang9902 no they definitely have the ability to do so and I'm sure they do stuff they see in the comments because as a public figure you have to actually listen to stuff the public wants and I've already seen like 3 comments asking about this in an hour
Sound issues and Recently Unemployed, Dennis is strict with his QC work.
do you mean Dennis left LTT???
@@whosthisguythinkheis dont think dennis has as hes still on the ltt website.
@@whosthisguythinkheis hes saying that dennis fired the guy XD
You fuck up your first shoot, you get the boot
@@whosthisguythinkheis read the credits at the end of the video
That actually is a standard Gigabyte card. All of the normally priced Gigabyte cards use those PCI-E 8-pin extension cables. The expensive ones might too but I didn't watch too many reviews on those.
I'd have thought it was inevitable that it'd be hopeless if you ask it to send the resulting rendered video back down the thunderbolt connection to the laptop.
I found a massive difference in performance after installing latest drivers that match the GPU in my Razer core W 3070. So I would imagine the same thing is happening here
Yeah we installed the latest drivers -AC
my razer core x apparently has pretty well optimized controllers id assume maybe would be the difference because i get rediculous fps with my 2070 super and an 1165g7
While everyone says "put it in a REAL PC", I'm myself wondering: Why wasn't this tested with a Tiger Lake laptop? Ice Lake / Tiger Lake solved many of the TB3 performance issues by finally taking the chipset out of the equation and having it connected to the CPU, and the performance gains are considerable.
The weird slim connectors on the GPU is also on the Gigabyte desktop GPUs. The adapters are what they use to extend the connectors to the end of the cooler shroud.
Few things for people that they really should have noted!~ Is it thunderbolt 3 or 4? 1.) Thunderbolt 4 equipped PC's are limited to higher standards from intel compared to thunderbolt 3 which manufacturers could get away with X2 lanes instead of PCI-e 4x 2.) What was the laptops configuration with specs and thermal performance. 3. More titles tested, or at least ones that are more common played. I may be asking a lot but we all know this isn't going to be showed on LTT where more in depth testing is done so it would be nice to see a more popular title being played. EDIT: How wasteful the custom graphics design is in terms of reusability, Yes you could use the included power supply and be fine with it but realistically they should have just thrown a graphics card they already make to make it easier years down the line for it to still be useful for 2nd hand gamers.
I 100% would watch a video of y'all putting that GPU into a desktop
Done!
Please stop using Valhiem as a benchmark, the FPS varies hugley depending on where you are in the game :)
Ikr! Why didn't they test this box in Minesweeper? It would really show the benefits of eGPU 🤦♂️
@@fffUUUUUU ... or you could test several games, especially games thats known to run stable, like their go-to Doom Eternal.
Honestly y’all, stop complaining about the audio. LTT is usually top of the game in production quality, so what if one time it’s slightly more echo-ey. It’s perfectly understandable and really not a huge deal. Yes we all prefer the better audio but who really cares if one video has an issue. They’re pumping out constant content!
That would be a good idea actually. To create a port that is almost usb sized but it is actually a pciexpress header so you can plug in an egpu directly to a pcie connector.
You should've tested another game, another laptop and probably hook the gpu to a regular desktop
i agree, very pointless video
@@pcguy98 I was yelling at the TV the entire time... WHYY VALLHEIM!!!! both me and my GF get pretty much the same game performance (depending on location in the world) w/ me and a RTX 2060, and her 1650. It isn't till you're out on the ocean, when system utilization actually goes up and framerates differ between our systems!. I'd be super pissed if i was GIgabyte right now.
@@jamesarmenti8876 this is shortcircus, a channel for short and "quick look" at cool stuff. Essentially, hey we got this, it cool, bye. If that is not your kind, you could just unsub it and just watch LTT main channel, where things are reviewed the normal way
@@khangle6872 I know what short circuit is. It still doesn't change the fact that videos are skewing opinions based on flawed testing. Short or long.. its the principle.
Probably should use on a different laptop, there is clearly something wrong here
or at least different game. really unprofessional testing in this video.
I don't think there's any kind of external power apart from usb-c pd. Laptop might not be happy with that. Some newer laptops won't run full tilt until you use a real power supply. (The results of the 1650 also looked a lot like a cpu bottleneck)
@@blubblub3786 yes, I have 1650 paired with i7-9750h and it performs way better.
@@blubblub3786 More than likely it has to do with the number of lanes dedicated to the dedicated GPU on-board vs the number of lanes dedicated to thunderbolt... my 1065G7/GTX1080 eGPU is outperforming this by a lot.
@@Hyatice Thats kinda difficult to say, a PCIe gen 3 x 8 runs at the same speed as PCIe gen 2 x16, and there are some older videos comparing that (when people were going from gen 2 to gen 3). The real world performance was like -5%. So I think it would still run alot better than this, even if it was running at Gen3x8
Bets on the 'review' getting an apology mention on the LAN show this week?
8:28 is when the first screw turns, everything prior is the opinion of someone who managed to somehow learn less about these things than I think most people would in their first few days of ownership. This is a useful video after that, thank you.
An anecdote on the "can't really win" suggestion; I picked up a 3090 version of this brand new at RRP(cheaper than the 3080 was) in March, if I get it running in my main rig I'll have that as well as a 500w PSU to modify for my LED garden. Feels like a win even with its limitations as an eGPU, but this will be fun and if it works it will be extremely powerful. Anyway, cheers again and have a good one!
Ah yes, integrated microphones. You know I get that some viewers complain about how much LMG has changed, but I don't think this is what they meant.
At least you got a 3080 for a reasonable price, $1400.
Imagine getting this just to take 3080 out of it and put it into your desktop pc
@@IV.Fourth still, it is cheaper than the current prices, in my country a 3080 will run you around $1800 and that is assuming that you can find one
You should put that GPU in the desktop system to see if there are any compromises to the eGPU setup itself. Or if there are any benefits to their water cooling solution. Could be good to know if a water cooled eGPU is really the best eGPU option (which isn't great).
I’m pretty sure the wires power connectors are actually on a few of gigabyte’s other 3080s. I think they wanted the pass through cooling without having to put the power connectors in the middle of the cooling solution.
honestly really suprised you guys didnt put that in a normal desktop to see how well or not well it performed personally thought that that would have been really coo l
they might do that on LTT, but the ShortCircuit videos are designed to be low effort.
@Jake they never perform benchmarks on Short Circuit.
It actually a low effort...
@@Innuya They may not perform full benchmarks, however once they start putting up comparison FPS figures they should at least do some basic troubleshooting when they get obviously incorrect performance like this. eGPU's aren't this bad, and I can't imagine Gigabyte will be very happy with this representation.
testing on an early access game that has frame rate issues depending on how many instances are in a current rendered chunk (animals, enemies, terrain modifications, etc) was an odd choice
I know right, that's what I thought during the whole video "Surely they're going to test a different game or workload" I get that this was a laptop but they could've installed Doom on it at least
It's a A/B comparison the title they choose doesn't matter only the relative difference in performance
@@butterdubs2267 true, it just doesn't help as a reference when his Valheim performance could be wildly different from others. A game that's more featured on the channel like DOOM would have provided something more "stable" to compare to, but I digress. This isn't a review and we already know external GPU's have a performance penalty. This video was about the odd configuration/build. I hope they expand on it.
@@butterdubs2267 valheim doesn't perform consistently... so it absolutely makes a difference. Trying to show a difference in performance is impossible, as the game can perform differently every time you go into an area.... it was a terrible choice of game for a comparison like this!
My friend just got me into Valheim, and now I'm addicted.
I saw teardown of a 3080 somewhere on youtube, where the 8pin connectors were mounted in the end of the heatsink and then connected to the board with similar connectors like this. It could be a standard card, at the end. (Could been on Der8auer) The "don't by eGPU" tipp, was to late for me. I love the concept of eGPUs and after seen some Videos of it in LTT in 2018/19 I thought they where usable. So at the end of 2019 I bought a Dell Inspiron and a Razor Core. Put my 1070 in it. It sucked! Audio problems. VR lost tracking all the time, the Nvidia driver took too long to handle interrupts, every thing time sensetive was unmanageble. In January this year I bit the apple and sold the laptop and the enclosure at a loss off over 500 €. Bought a 3600X instead and I am Realy happy now, still using the 1070 though.
RIP "Recently Unemployed" guy
I've never seen that one before on an LMG video. Does this mean recently fired or is this another cheeky way of saying they are still on probation?
Maybe they got the chop for the bad audio 🧐
That power connector is something gigabyte is using on their 3080s (except the aorus line), with that flat to standard 8 pin plastic adapter jammed there (their 8pins are not soldered to the pcb)
I wonder about some of the custom solutions, like Alienware's eGPUs. The one on the new Flow 13 works pretty well because, well, it's not going through something like a standard Thunderbolt connection
I would love to see a deeper dive on the egpu vs desktop and the other possibilities on the main channel
The audio reminds me of a certain Buzz Prime video on SSD's also funnily enough featuring our dear Alex Clark.
Can we take a moment to appreciate his Valheim home though Though as literally every other person has said, Valheim is a very poor performance measure until it gets some much needed optimization
No.
I'm at day 120 and not nearly as far into the game as he is :O
@@detroxx56784 I've got a bit better equipment than he does at about day 150, but his house is overall better
That is the video i was waiting for 🔥
Imagine someone showing up to a LAN party with a chonky chungus of a lunchbag with that in it
would love to see a follow up on a test bench see how much the thunderbolt is a bottleneck for this card's performance
I would love that, also idk why LTT always trashes on eGPUs, i think they miss the point of the value proposition the have. I personally own a setup with a 3060TI and use it with a notebook i can play games at 1080p high settings compared to not being able to get more than 10 frames. Precovid i was able to commute to college with a sub 2lbs laptop and game all i wanted in my dorm. Its true that if gaming is the most important thing to you then eGPUs don't make a lot of sense compared to a gaming laptop or a dedicated setup especially for the price, but for me the most important thing was having all the convenience of a thin n light and gaming is a side thing.
@@MixableRat90 the G14 is literally designed for people like you .. the 3060 in that will perform just like your 3060ti after the TB bottleneck and perf loss due to a old 15W mobile intel chip. also, 1080p high is not much of an achievement these days ... especially with a GPU as fast as a 3060ti.
@@MixableRat90 is not a value proposition. They're extremely expensive and you can usually build our buy a better setup.
OOF. "Recently Unemployed" That sucks
Actually the opposite, it's a new hire. Who recently did not have a job, but does now. And is on propation, probably.
I am so glad ShortCircuit can save me money I dont "have" to spend anyways! thanks for the video!
I know that this is going to concern a niche segment within a niche segment, but I would really want to know if EGPUs are finally better with the intel 10nm and 45w chips that can be found in the most recent of laptops (dell XPS 15/17). The integrated TB controller in the 15/28w 10nm CPUs had made a difference for EGPUs but the 45w versions mean no CPU bottleneck at all in game, which is to me the main drawback of an egpu setup. I am currently rocking a 15w 10th gen intel CPU (10nm) with the gaming box 1080, which works great but the CPU runs HOT.
I'd love to see if you could throw that eGPU in a desktop, and how it would compare to an off the shelf RTX 3080.
With the bag, he looks like a dad going on a fishing trip
Agreed I wonder how it would compare between being used as an e gpu vs tossed in a similarly configured desktop
I bought one on pre order a few months back, it was terrible to game on out of the box 30fps in GR Breakpoint , with a driver update I got 50fps, if you knock the Tb cable then the whole computer crashes. Now I use it to mine on when not gaming, that performance is great 91Mh on ethereum with tuning of course. And it came with the correct au plug.
They didn't bother to test the GPU with other laptop or games... I feel like there's something wrong with that set up, driver/compatibility issues or something... Very unprofessional even if the product doesn't makes sense
Welcome to an episode of: i can't buy it but i will watch it anyway
More like "I shouldn't buy it but I will watch it anyway"
Yeah, all the Techtubers are excusing themselves now a days for making content for things you can't buy. It's been some shitty months for tech to say the least. I was lucky to grab me a 3090 before Xmas. But I'll still watch the videos😉
@@fredrikstad01 I literally built my rig just before the shortage started and oh boy am I glad I did. My rig is up in value 40/50% now just for the CPU/GPU themselves! (ryzen 5 3600X and a mere Radeon RX 5500XT 8GB which now retails for the absurd price of ~600USD)
I can't imagine that cooling solution is any better than just doing standard air cooling. They're moving the heat 2 inches away using the water. And you could see the lack of engineering when you took off the side panel. The a lot of the middle was blocked by a piece of metal that could have been placed behind the PCB instead. But anyway, eGPUs were never going to happen. There's just not enough bandwidth and likely a fair amount of added latency from the distance the signals have to travel.
You guys should keep in more of the questions from the background, I like to see everybody's opinion on them!
Nice to see a 3080 wasted in a eGPU while they're still out of stock everywhere
Don't worry it's out of stock
Frrruuusstrraaastiioooon..
Anytime you're testing eGPUs, you should use a laptop or a NUC with a Comet Lake CPU, or other weak integrated GPU.
Like the Dell Inspiron 7000 I7706-7337SLV-PUS
I'd love to see either this 3080 in a desktop and/or try to fit a whole computer (with discreet GPU. No nuc shortcut) into that same case
Hmm, would say get an ITX system instead of an e-GPU. Also was this the best way to test it? I don't know enough about Thunderbolt docks or the display out but I would've thought plug DP into GPU, Thunderbolt into the laptop would yield better results(?)
I'd like to see you guys actually put this thing into a desktop and see what the results are.
You could build a whole SFFPC in a box just a tiny bit bigger for a similar price with much better performance...
I was thinking the same thing. A Dan A4 case is probably very close to the same size.
I really like looking inside products that are supposed to be integrated
eGPU performance is quite finicky: it depends on number of PCU lane passed through by Thunderbolt, whether iGPU is enabled (or can be disabled automatically), what kind of power Laptop allows to pas through Thunderbolt, .etc. You may, potentially, het better results on different laptops or after adjusting some settings on this one.
Audio is certainly one thing, that changed for better over the years.
Hey do you know what instrumental is playing in the background at 5:06 onwards. I tried Shazam but rs just way too quiet to hear :'(
People: Waiting for GPUs to finally become available. Aorus: Let's create an eGPU that 10 people worldwide will have use for because we have so many spare GPUs at hand.
Yeah, someone could be using that form mining right now. Instead it isnt even good for gaming.
"If you push them really hard they might consume 300 watts" Yeah you might wanna double check that buddy. They sit around 330 watts in games and can spike over 400
I have Razer Core X with RTX 3090 and I see no issues at all. Also I have the mini 1080 eGPU from AORUS and it works perfectly. Not to say that I successfully moded a HP eGPU with a water cooled 1080ti and it worked amazing. For portability I am searching for an ITX RTX GPU 2070S or above to update the mini AORUS eGPU and in combination wit the portable ASUS ROG monitor and Razer Blade Stealth 11th gen Intel, it will be a beast.
Shooter, Editor and Art Director are "recently unemployed". :/
Wait whaaaat. What happened?
haha yeah i saw that too!
Oof
might just be the usual LTT end-card-snark tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
is that some weird driver/Windows issue? I can't believe it's 40 FPS on eGPU...
Could be the laptops cpu holding it back
Why didn't they test this box in Minesweeper? It would really show the benefits of eGPU 🤦♂️
It's the limit of thunderbolt
@@sietsedegrande213 what's the bandwidth/version the laptop they're using?
@@CrimsonSteelMoonTheWolf64 I think it's an intel laptop with thunderbolt 3 so I guess 10Gb/s
Those power plugs on the gpu are the same ones inside my gigabyte rtx 3080 gaming oc. So I couldn't get a look at the card but it might not be custom, just weird water-cooling on a standard gigabyte board. Idk why but they use those adapters on the actual card and I think all the 3000 gigabyte gpus use them. Edit: yeah I went back and looked at the board, looks like a standard gigabyte board. They made some very odd pcb design and cooling decisions for their 3000 series cards
probably super nice for mining (daisy chaining thunderbolt cards and good vrm cooling)
Please! Put it in a desktop to find out if the performance improves trough pci... I need to know! Even if I'll never buy that xD
Every case producer: Lets make the removable dust filter slide out to the back so the person has to move the case instead of making it removable to the front ...
-every- some
... and lets make it such a tight fit that you'll scrape all the dust off inside the case as you pull it out.
I'd like to see a comparison of various eGPUs. I'd especially like to see how the more standard eGPUs compare with the ASUS ROG Flow laptop setup. And how do eGPUs compare to external cases for standard GPUs. Are eGPUs weaker for some reason?
I think a eGPU is aimed towards a very small group, I belong to his group and that's why: I have a very big workstation (threadripper, 128gb RAM, sadly still 1080ti, wating, praying for a 3080ti?) this thing alone is about 50kg, CM Cosmos C700P But I also need a small, light still powerfull laptop, to I chose the Blade Stealth GTX1650, ok for light gaming Now for my workshop I just take the Blade and plug it into the eGPU / dock, and everything works well with just 1 cable And also for LANs this setup is light and "portable" compared to my workstation Performancewise I have to say, dependend on the game I lose almost no performance, in most cases it'a around a 5-10% fps loss compared to the desktop I am very happy with this eGPU setup and it works for me In your case, consider the cpu and everything else, just comparing e3080 vs 3080 is very lazy I am pretty sure you were cpu bottlenecked
I have to ask, did you consider installing 3080 drivers?
What happened to the audio?
Really wanna see this plugged into a pc. Great way to see if its weaker than a normal 3080 (and by how much)
this sounds like it should have been an LTT video that went more in depth on eGPUs in general, plus the idea of using that in a desktop would have been awesome
there's got to be a compatability issue or something going wrong, no way a 3080 egpu would be that bad
Well I put in my M2 macbook pro and now I can't close the lid so this 3080 is a bad buy!
LMG still delivering pretty decent audio even when it's clearly their backup audio XD
probably from the overhead camera, that has a perfect position for still decent audio
My iBuyPower pre-built I received in February, ordered in November, came with a European power cable for the PC...I live and had the PC shipped within the US.
Pretty sure from Gamer Nexus's teardowns that is a standard Gigabyte RTX3080 in the desktop version they use an extension cable that blocks most of the "flow through design".
wish you would have tried some other games. The one you used isn't really optimized yet and as such a more common title might have done far better. I would like to see a real attempt at bench marking this.
Fair point, but he also tried it on PC with the same GPU. Badly or not so badly optimized, in no scenario should it be half the performance.
@@TheSerbianEmperor the egpu isn't a standard configuration so the way the drivers handles it are different. So a title that is less optimized is more likely to show how much harder a card has to work. It's kind of an apple to oranges comparison. There is a lot involved like bandwidth and so forth which is why performance dipped even more when when using the built in monitor. This requires optimization to get the best output over the limited bandwidth. A game that been around for a few years which has been fully optimized with matured drivers would likely have given a more fair impression. It seems he just picked a game he liked and ran with it. Instead of using multiple titles to give the unit a fair shake.
Do you not get credited if you leave the company before the video is done? If so, I'm curious as of why
Gives the impression that they got firest because of the audio issues.
It's a joke
Haha, that's the way I read it at first too, but I think they meant they were unemployed BEFORE working at LMG and it is just the name they used for the credits since they haven't passed their probation period yet.
Any chance the low frames could be due to the CPU only boosting for so long? I had that issue on my razerblade but I adjusted the boost time in Throttlestop and it fixed it
That PSU looks kinda ATX compatible. It obviously has pci-e power. It looks to have a 24pin that connects to the mainboard, the mainboard also looks to have a 4pin(4+0 as in what goes to the CPU) connector.
isn't valheim like crazy CPU-bound? not sure that would be my choice for a GPU benchmark
Im sure there was some user error in using the egpu, but hey, thats ltt for ya!
To their credit it’s an unboxing experience and if it isn’t performing well out of the box it deserves to be shown
@@ronaldaja341 they should show how to set it up then. They trashed the product, and to be honest i get it, this shouldnt be a beginners plug and play product, it does require setup so put it on ltt and showcase how it fully works
When we originally tested eGPUs 1070s and 1080s were showing diminishing returns bc of bandwidth limitations, so the results here make total sense to me -AC
Dang I forget how good your audio is normally!!
Was waiting for the test of putting the egpu board directly into a pc and benching it vs itself in the egpu enclosure and vs the 3080 desktop. Do a youtube short!!! Or a follow up video.
1400$? In Germany a lone 3070 is 1400-1600$
damn, in Romania a 3070 is over 2000Eur
MSRP - actual price will be probably much higher.
Can you put this egpu inside a normal desktop? I mean you have it disassembled.
4:36 actual representation of my pc trying to play rust... and I’ve played 700 hours with it looking like that 😭😭
kinda glad you pulled it apart. the only 3080 around that's available to buy atm is this, and its priced not much more than a regular 3080 due to the crazy prices, especially since it comes with a 240. but its non standard and looks like a pain to get working in a desktop. doable but wont look great.