Jacob Rees Mogg on immigration and the NHS
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The problem with the Conservatives is that they don't have enough conservatives.
and the problem with Labour is that they have too many.
"Too male, too pale, too stale..." that seems to be the BBC's view of Britain.
I am not interested in politicians being 'sunny personalities' but sticking to policies. Fed up with them skirting blatantly obvious serious issues because of 'feelings'.
Anglo Saxon Elle It would help to have far better political personalities that stick to the policies than the current boring mob which dont.
Moggy just schooling them
Having failed to conserve anything worthwhile by supposedly pandering to ageing white males, the "conservative' party under May and Davidson is now going to pander to yoof. What could go wrong?
Anglo Saxon Elle Well stated, the wilful refusal of our authorities in addressing and acting efficiently and decisively in very serious issues amounts to treason. They are like a fire department staring idly onto a burning building.
I couldn't care a fig if she is enjoying being PM or not she is there to do a job of work and being paid handsomely for it too. Just look at what she has achieved in brexit sod all ...we no longer have a say in the eu ,we are 2 years away from the referendum ,she got us another 2 years of it, she has sold out the fishermen ,she has given in to every demand they have made and we are supposed to worry that she might not be happy.....I give up.
mc 007 exactly, would much rather a leader who begrudgingly has taken on the task, than one who really really wants it. Maduro and Chavez were all smiles and promised new and exciting revolution. Suspicious of anyone who is eager to lead
He has said he would rather be speaker of the house and yes i agree with your first sentence but how much time will it take we can't go on like this she is going to sign us up to some rubbish any day now .We gave him all the support anyone could wish for but still he sits there looking clever and doing nothing . I'm sorry but i'm beginning to think he's full of hot air with no fire in his belly. We need a real man Not a piece of jewelry.
Had there been NO immigrants allowed into our country over the last few decades the Leave vote would have been a resounding victory! Immigrants voted almost (including their cheating!) 100% to remain in the EU mudpile of corruption!
I like Jacob, but he needs to be more harsh on Immigration.
AaleexXx 14 - Agreed. JRM needs to talk to Farage about an Australian style point system.
It sounds nice but I am from Australia and our immigration intake is way too high even with the point system. We have a population of 24 million and we accept 190,000 migrants a year, 68% of whom are skilled and 32% are family members. This annual intake, coupled with our already substantial immigrant population, and due to our low birth-rates among European's paints a dark future for Australia.
AaleexXx 14 - True. You’ll be Asian in no time. But I think a point system for Britain would work better than it has for Oz. And at least it’s somewhere to start. I’d love to end all immigration full stop, but we know that’s not going to happen.
Deportations, a harsh points system while prioritising native workers first and a public campaign to increase incentive for natives to have children and fight the decline. That would get my full support. Both sides of my family are from North-West England and my father was born there so I was lucky enough to be born a British citizen with full English heritage. It is my intention to go to post-brexit Britain and do all I can to help when I have finished my degree.
Fuck all this "we need a points based system like Australia" We need to close the borders and lock them down tightly. Then start mass deportation. I know that's not going to happen any time soon but that's my opinion.
I don't like the idea of far far far left Scotland dictating how the party should act in centre right England. England wants a more Conservative Tory party, if Scotland wants their Tories to be New Labour mark 2, then go for it, but don't expect us to follow suit. We have a country to save.
Anglo Fyrd believe it or not,Scotland isn't far,far,far left.the Tories have been out of the fold in Scotland and not trusted since Thatcher hit us with the poll tax a year before England. Along with the closing of heavy industries in the 80's.the snp just gave us a viable option under Salmond of something other than labour.every government has it's shelf life,and more and more people are Fed up of Sturgeon who's dragged the party so far left.labour are led by someone to the left of Corbin up here,and the greens and lib dems are to the left of them.Ruth Davidson's competent,but essentially a modern 'compassionate tory'. i'd vote for JRM in a heartbeat.he's a conviction politician,though I suspect he wouldn't have the balls to cajole people to his way of thinking like Maggie did.i voted snp for 20 years, but voted for brexit and the Tories at the last election out of necessity.even though there essentially wishy washy liberals since the time of John Major.we also don't have the mass migration that England's had too contend with.although granted,Scotland has always been more left wing than England.
Scotland isn't far left? So it wasn't the Scottish crown prosecution that tried to jail a man over a joke? Ok....
Ruth Davidson is a labour MP who happens to be leading the Scottish Tory party.
What do you mean by that Nimble?
Her political beliefs are more in line with the Labour party than they are with conservatism.
Are you sure Nimble, always thought, from what I have seen, that she talks a lot of sense! Well at least she not Corbyn. Will have to delve a bit more.
Nimble Pumpkin Just because she offended your heartthrob doesn't mean you can smear her. She's a fantastic politician doing an incredible job at detoxifying the Conservative brand north of the border and holding the SNP to account
Nimble, see what you mean.
Please run for PM JRM
Scottish conservatives,aka labour in disguise lol
James Sengoku spot on !
Yes indeed. Remember the most recent Scottish PMs? Blair, Brown. They weren’t exactly fantastic were they?
Totally disagree with Mogg here on immigration, sounds like actually moggy is just a softy neo con after all in favour of mass immigration a totally unconservative value in my view. If your country is heavily dependent on immigration there is something seriously wrong with your country.
Dooer? or Dour? This waman is insufferable....
Slapbladder: Waman or Woman?
Andrew - a Waman I was taking the piss as she is a vile lefty femanazi
Slapbladder: There is a lot of it about these days. I’m thinking of a social engineering agenda. I’m all for equality but it seems to be in my face 24/7 and I’m getting bored. Feminism is the fight for equality but this new wave is just bashing everything up for the sake of it. Nothing left to get offended about so let’s look towards minor annoyances and then vilify that. This is toxic to equality as it seems that they will just carry on long after they have the scales tilted their way. History proves this theory. Look at all the extremists. Didn’t end well.
Thick people use liberalism as a pejorative. Don't be thick - you're insulting Western Civilization.
Mogg 4 PM
ghyllltarvoke idiot
ghylltarvoke I’m way down the rabbit hole!! Brexit and other things could be better with a classic libertarian like mogg! Teresa May won’t stand down or call another election while the hidden hand of the Fabians are pulling her strings
mog is the man a christian man a family man
Wish Mr. Mogg would talk about public opinion on immigration the same way he talks about public opinion on the referendum. Rises in Immigration is hands down the most unpopular political position in the country. Why is anyone talking about relaxing on immigration? www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/361
William Younger migration watch is an anti immigration pressure group. I'm afraid this is a very bias poll so doesn't have much validity.
dosn't matter where you go the numbers are pretty much the same. it was 70% in favor of reduction in a YouGov poll aswell
loved and applauded, respected and popular, praise Jacob for heading this hight. Kipling’s “If” names Jacob as a man.
Far from being distant from real people , i think that Jacob is astutely aware of our feelings , and beliefs and respects them . He has done his homework on figures so has a real understanding of the economy in how it affects us K
The £350 million was not a promise, it was a suggestion. The leave campaign does not run the country, the government runs the country. It can only be suggested not promised!
I'm not even sure about that anymore.
Yes, I tell people this (the first sentence) and they are clueless parroting the nonsense from remainiacs.
Botany 500 "we give the EU £350 million a week, lets fund our NHS instead". Only then to say that it would not be the case once 'leave' had won. Suggestion or not,this was grossly misleading to the British people.
Chuck Grant. The Leave Campaign has no power to force the government to spend the £350 million on the NHS, but it's possible for the government to do it. What was misleading was the statement made by the Remain Campaign: "Brexit will see 400,000 to 800,000 unemployed." That was a claim, not a suggestion.
Wallywood Wally as you said the leave campaign has no power over the £350 million. So why did they indicate they did?That was a massive campaign point and they indicated to people that it was feasible. And George Osborne said 400,000 jobs COULD be lost due to brexit. Don't make things up
Mogg is smoother than peanut butter on silk.
The stirring analogy, that conjures an image of shit in one's undergarments
Immigration well below ten thousand, would be wonderful.
“Voters are too pale” wow imagine if a person came onto the show and complained about Labour voters being “too dark” the bbc would be quick take them out soon.
Travis Mitchell The pale-faced voters in Britain are only in the early-waking-up stage. By the time you really wake up, you'll be bewildered, bothered, and bewitched.
Keep Ruth away from the milk. Why rely on immigrants for the NHS we should be training our own. If immigrant Doctor and Nurses stay at home we are screwed. Plus we shouldn't be draining other countries of their own specialist and that they have their sick to take care of
Personally, I’d rather pay an extra tenner a month in National Insurance just to stop the mania regarding the perceived NHS “Crisis”. It’s getting very, very tiresome now.
Lmao, this programme is so thin without Andrew Neil.
Why are people in the UK so opposed to privatising the NHS? I think its the sensible logical thing to do, and would dramatically improve the health service..we already have large chunks of it in the private sector so why not go the whole way? When an organisation of that size and scale remains in the public sector its never going to be run efficiently, completely or on a proper business footing. We saw that with Royal Mail which until recent years was a major major drain on the tax purse filing huge losses on what SHOULD be a very profitable business considering they had a monopoly. The problem always comes back to lack of competitiveness, trade unions blocking modernisation and progress. In the private sector, the trade unions are finding life much different in Royal Mail I can tell you! And that's how it should be. You can't have an organisation the size and scale of the NHS costing tax-payers an ever increasing chunk of our national budget whilst the service gets worse and worse, due mainly to trade unions bullying the government and blocking any efforts at making the service run efficient and competitively. Nationalised industries have never worked historically and governments should not be doing that, it's not the role of government. We all want a health service that works, where waiting queues aren't weeks to see your GP and months to see a consultant or surgeon. That isn't going to happen under the present system. People's main concern seems to be that the NHS is free, and in the private sector it would cost people a lot more. No it wouldn't. We all pay a LOT for the NHS its not free at all. Most people pay a huge chunk of their life-time earnings as National Insurance and many business owners too, we don't use the service often (if at all) yet have to fund it. If we moved to a private insurance model, and more towards 'pay to use' for certain things I'm pretty sure a lot more people would take responsibility for their behaviour, their health and would start exercising and eating more sensibly. Then your insurance goes down. If you use the NHS more from neglecting your health or making bad lifestyle choices, then your insurance goes up and you have to take responsibility for that. Of course, we could have limits based on income, and safeguards for those people who have to use the NHS more not due to any lifestyle choices etc. However as it stands now, it's a bad bad system that basically picks up the cost of bad lifestyles and places the burden on everyone else with no incentive for that to change and no way to manage or pass on that increasing cost. The staff are being asked to do more and more, with less and less resources.
jrm, you are the man ! big fan from central Poland
LK is the example of the BBC always slagging off BREXIT and Tory party. Shame she does not do the same to the SNP or Red Corbyn. Please run for PM JRM.
Money should go to front line services in the NHS. .not management /secretary's secretary. and administration; new machines / Drs/ nurses/ medical student /staff wages.; no matter how much they seem to send every year it's NHS is in crisis. .
Brexit VICTORY JUNE 23 ... 2018
its a fineline , would really want to see bo jo with a sonic the hedge hog tie
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I genuinely love this man, but his position on immigration is untenable. I guess it's Gerrard Butler? God I don't know anymore.
Students often don't leave, it's well known that it's easier to get a student visa and stay than a visitors vias ,so yes they should be counted.
Davidson will be in a position to lecture about immigration when the proportion of Scotland's overseas-born population is anywhere the same as England's. Currently, 14% of England's population was born outside the UK, compared to around 7% of Scotland's.
U.k passport should be required to see a GP. No more NHS bandits.
I fell asleep just after 1.48 seconds (shortly after I heard Teresa Mays name in fact)
On the 'promised' £350,000,000 per week for NHS funding, one cannot have one's cake, and eat it. This money, and JRM might have made this important point, is still being applied in funding the EU, so cannot, yet, be applied domestically, as soon as UK does, hopefully, exit the EU then this money shall be available however, money is more easily saved by ensuring those with no right to free healthcare within the UK are not afforded it, equally, review of the wasteful Thatcherite system of General Management must be undertaken to remove the propensity of management and replace with medical professionals, the NHS operated better, I am of opinion, when managed by professional medics rather than accountants, and their other friends.
There are many ways the NHS can have more funds without increasing the already *over* *TAXED* private sector. Immigration is one of them, I'm not saying don't let in anyone, I'm saying allow the skilled labour that we require and shut the door to the rest. I know I'll get some bad comments for pointing out the 'elephant' in the room so I'll list a reason for saying this below, this was another person’s post that I saw and re-arranged for ease. EU *low* *paid* workers = Tax credits EU low paid worker with wife (claiming Unemployment Benefit) and 2 children Minimum pay (depending on age) £7.83 per hour for 25 and over 37.5 hour week (average) = £294 per week Tax paid per year £682 NIC paid per year £821 They are entitled to claim Tax Credits, Child Tax Credits, Child allowance (if under 16), Rent Rebate, Council Tax Rebate, if they apply, they would qualify. Family Tax Credit £55.46 per week Child tax credits for 2 children £117.08 per week Child allowance £42 per week Unemployment Benefit £71.70 per week Where I live a 3 bed semi to rent £500 pm, rent rebate £450 pm, council tax rebate £60 pm. So EU low paid worker with wife and 2 children would pay into our system approximately £1,503 per year. The same EU worker with family would receive £21,004 in benefits from private sector taxation, it’s the law.... So how are they *"contributing* *to* *our* *society"..* Just visit YouGov it’s there!!!
Bless John, maths was always tough for you, right? Who are these magical EU immigrants both stealing jobs and driving down wages whilst simultaneously (and paradoxically) claiming unemployment benefit? You know the demographic profile of the EU immigrant is largely young, single and fit right? (as people relocating looking for work strongly tend toward.) Besides this is all redundant speculation as we know EU immigrants are net contributors in financial terms - this has been calculated long ago and it's really only the pig ignorant who are unaware of this by this stage.The numbers are in - we gain economically from EU immigrants. There's no dispute about this amongst anyone with an iota of knowledge about the statistics. There is an argument about wages being driven down. That is a credible criticism and should be addressed - your own little fantasies and risible, incoherent maths can be instantly dismissed however.
""" RACIST. RACIST. RACIST """ screamed the cowardly Liberal lefty.
You forgot to add the grandparents that join them and need a hip replacement...
I love it when moggy out thinks and steers people into contradictory traps.I could listen to him all day.If he was our prime minister ,I am sure we would be out of the Eu by now.
JRM common sense
But not alot of go in him he is not what i thought he would be sadly.
Did he just reference cricket? I think you can't get any more English than this guy.
Maybe Ruth's template would be a "Tony Blair" type? Smiley, sincere, polished? Been there done that!
2:17 "next generation of **Future Leaders**" how very Common Purpose.
He is against Enoch Powell
Well observed.
His dad was, who worked for Ted Heath. He probably just parrots the same view and/or was brainwashed to think Enoch was a racist.
Political suicide to say any different - could have kept schtum instead though
No hes just smart enough to not make the same mistakes as Powell and set us back another 40 years
He did not say he was against Enoch Powell. He disagrees with his SPEECH. it doesn't mean that he disagreed with the content. Mogg knows that if one goes against the current trend in his position ,he can forget any chance of progressing in the party and becoming a person who can seriously influence policy.
It's DOW-ER.
No one has the balls to say it, but I fucking will... GET RID OF THE NHS!
Funny how men dress formally in jackets and ties for TV and yet women often dress like they're going out clubbing after the show...
Personally I would pay a little more national insurance if it meant better care for me and my son, but I suppose more people in jobs to pay the amount it is now would help too.
You are going to receive what you wish. With no improvement to service. They gonna bleed you dry anyway. Its called economic migration and health tourism.
can we privatise the bloody NHS already?
the nhs should remain as it is!!
ravenhill merchant how civilised. This is exactly how I like to see debate be approached-- naming your opponent "piece of shit". By the way, this comment was sarcastic. In case you didn't get that. ☺
ravenhill merchant I noticed how you changed your response to something more civilised. Just doing my bit to restore civilised debate. ☺
What a lovely wee conversation between 3 staunch Tories. Not one interruotion from slim lipped Jo..
Has he or his party done anythong to halt such immigration?
Kallergi plan in full effect
Wouldn’t 100 Indian doctors be better employed in the country that trained them i.e. India. Is it that our own people are too thick to become doctors, I don’t think so!
this woman is a horror show
I understand that UK needs new people if they have insufficient growth. But, is there anybody with any bright idea how to make native brits to multiply again?
What makes you think these two women may have voted remain ?
Id vote for him
Mogg for God
Fuck your Pope he is the Antichrist from Rome.
Stop the Political correctness, it doesn't matter about someone's "hurt feelings" do what is right for the people of Britain. Apeasement only leads to conflict, do a Trump, tell it like it is, and maybe, just maybe the government might be able to claw back a little credibility, which at the moment neither they nor the Labour party have any at all.
>Theresa May >authoritarian What are these people smoking?
Authoritarian? That's the Labour Party to a T.
Kuensberg, Jew ? BBC ? I will let you join the dots !!!!!!!
Immigrants are costing Britain 6 billion a year.
Moggy just schooling them. Showboating
What moggs saying is immigrant in the doctors and so on.
How can menstruating woman be stable enough for power ?
9:40 she shows her archetypal nature. We love gossip.
Jacob Rees-mogg - "the other week about 100 Indian doctors were denied access to the UK" Right, so why do you want more foreigners, who don't look anything like us and have their own culture, to come to Britain and undoubtedly form more foreign enclaves in the country??...I thought you loved your own people Mr Rees-mogg?? Bringing more foreigners is not serving the nations best interests, and frankly pulling up the drawbridge isn't enough, mass deportations need to happen in order to solve the demographic issues that this country faces.
i think that table needs to a bit closer to the lady on the right...it doesn't look annoying enough
Here's a fucking idea. Since it's all socialized, cap the wages on those over paid white collar health workers. There's some goddamn savings.
If women ran the world
And that's why the bbc wear red, they are red. I object to being taxed for these people.
So actually moral principles dont matter as long as your popular.. has the British Bull dog turned in to a Chihuahua? #wtf
Move to Poland leave England to its demise
I can't think of who his haircut reminds me of, hmmmmmm
Unknown User Woah what a biting putdown, ouch!
Unknown User I always feel a good indication of someone's intelligence is whether they can type a sentence without using 'lol' or a series of emojis.
Unknown User Top notch bantz fella!
Unknown User Sweet baby Moses, you are dim. It seems to be a common affliction among Mogg fans, thick as planks.
Unknown User Tee hee, you're getting a little angry now amigo! (Quick newsflash - you also have no power, no influence and your views also mean nothing.)
Nobody likes Ruth XD Who the fuck is pushing for her ahahaha
Thanks jrm you’ve shown your true colours. Not interested in conserving anything! Pathetic
Thay better abolished that stupid porn law thing
What's wrong with this woman's mouth?
UKIP are dead and why the obsession with Jacob?
Down with the socialist health service!!!
That's a view that has no legs. Like it or loath it, the NHS is part and parcel of the British view of how the world should be. Better to embrace it and fight for it along with other cultural values that set the UK apart.
The You're a fucking idiot
Our great grandfathers didn't fight for the NHS, they fought for our protection, our sovereignty. But even if that were the case, labelling something as being unable to criticise because of its historical affiliations is ludicrous. The idea that we should all vote because "people died for our right to vote" is equally ludicrous.
YEAH! ALL sick people should be at the mercy of predatory capitalists. If you get unlucky or happen to not have stored up enough of the queen's promises you deserve to suffer and die. Can't see anything wrong with that model of society...
how much do you think healthcare would cost with all the competition in the free market?
fake con woman ?
My only worry about this guy is he's a Roman Catholic and the Jesuit influence that might be there
The gathering of the 'Bitches', ?