Why Family Isn’t A Priority For Gen Z Women - Freya India
Chris and Freya India discuss why women are prioritising their careers over family. Why are women choosing careers over family according to Freya India? When did Freya India notice this trend start?
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You should do an interview with chocolateautizzy she is a female involuntarily celibate and I thought it was all b.s until I watched her video 😂
Unsure why you are cussing in front of this reasonably conservative woman, Chris. I love you man, but my respect dropped a little here.
Chris, how are you not interviewing Suzanne Venker??? She's the nice of Phyllis Schlafly and a font of knowledge on this subject. You'd love her.
The only people I know having kids here in SF are either insanely poor people with like 5 kids, or insanely rich people with 2. The middle is just wage slaving their way into their 40s because it's never the right time to start a family. This reminds me very much of Idiocracy.
Speaking of Idiocracy... The #1 primetime news broadcast in Germany has just announced to "simplify" their language to appeal to a wider and younger audience. The news anchors will talk "more colloquially" and less "from a place of superiority". Idiocracy is coming, folks. It's coming.
@@okaySamstarting with crocs. They were in that movie and now everyone is wearing them.
And communism.
@Stilo95 Yeah no communism has nothing to do with it. This is a direct result of Capitalism and the continuous need to grow and grow.
gO AWAy....bAiTin
I truthfully believe we will look back at the age of instagram and say WTF were these people were thinking.
Hopefully. But I doubt it. The robots will probably kill us before that happens.
I saw this over a decade ago when social media was still in it's infancy and my decision to stay off it was a damn good one.
Hindsight is 20/20. I think you can look back in history, and find that with every period and generation.
@@12xenn45you don’t think a negative replacement rate for most countries, declining marriages, and increasing divorce rate isn’t failing?! LOL
@@NeverSarcasticManblud said society was failing. You two are in agreement.
Time for Chris to be a good role model and settle down and start a family. As well as Huberman, Ferris and all the other oldies still chasing tail, but talking about family values all the time.
True. These dudes don’t want what they’re basically preaching others need to do
Chris will never settle down with a woman.
Yep. He's saying the right things and doing the wrong ones.
@@capo4ever334 exactly. Pure hypocrisy. They could be married yesterday to a "good woman" of their exact preference, IF they wanted to.Same w. Huberman.
@@elgenerico6263 you clocked it🙃.
How things change,25 years ago in my class we were asked what we wanted from life.We were 25 people, 24 answered with one word, family.
Not in my school. They asked us in the 80s and we all yelled lots of sex. I dunno what the girls said, we were too busy giggling like morons.
How dumb
Bullshit....young people around the 1990s would have been more interested in partying and starting career paths. Family for some later. Now children are gaslit into thinking the planet is dying etc. Women are being gaslit into hating men on a mass scale. Lesbian relationships are soaring from past levels.
@@Just3inchesunder What do you want from life? A Rolex? Lmao
what did the other one say?
We've become an incredibly selfish society. We reject children, but have no problem taking on insane public debt that future generations will need to pay off.
And the public debt gets larger the more people we add and add. Perhaps we have grown to large to support the weight of a bad system?
@@broteinstain8256and yet we’re gonna die out if the mating crisis doesn’t change :/
Society became selfish because it previously demanded selflessness at the expense of our individuality and autonomy. Our chickens are coming home to roost.
@@KayscastleThe global population is *increasing*, not decreasing. Our population increased by 2 billion in the past 20 years.
@@Kayscastle What maiting crisis? Last I checked the population is still growing and people are living longer and longer. Additionally automation will make many jobs slowly obsolete and them we will have not enough jobs to support the existing population. More people, more problems
Because when the workforce is doubled, the salaries are halved. But don't worry, automation will take care of all that.
Your first sentence perfectly explains why corporations were and are pro-feminism.
So when automation kicks up will we go back to one income families?
We'll be all jobless.
@@dividedbytimestudios No it will be UBI per person. Except minorities will probably get more to compensate for systemic raYcissisms.
Anyone that disagrees with this is clueless to how the economy works.👌
A lot of people had shit childhoods. To the point where they look at having children. Then they flash back to their own childhoods. Which revolts them to the point where they vow never to have children so that is never inflicted onto another human. That is a large problem right now.
this is so true, life has become so strange. First financially it's too hard to have children and second we've become slaves to machines. I don't want to pass the pain to anyone else.
@@MrMrVV I had a rough start in life. I realized surprisingly that’s actually what would make me a good parent. I knew what not to do. And what I should of done. Same goes for you.
Yeah I don’t really agree with this lady claiming girls don’t want to have families cause they grew up seeing famous role model culture and wanting that. I’m both Gen Z and millenial and a female and I don’t want kids because I saw how lame my own mother’s life was. She was basically a single mother that raised us kids without our abusive father who was so absent and I saw that destroy my entire family. No thanks. I’m willing to start a family when I find the right man to do that with and also being financially stable to afford a kid (which probably will never happen)
@@Electragirl5talking out of both sides of your mouth… making no sense. Say you don’t want kids because you saw how lame your mom’s life was….and then two sentences later say that you will be ready to have kids when you’re financially stable. What is this garbage double talk ?? lol so bizarre
@@Electragirl5 You'll make more in the future. Be a person who is awesome and you'll attract someone awesome too. There is a whole world of places you can live and different costs in different geographic locations.
The elderly made housing very expensive - boost their capital gains - by preserving their neighbourhoods via heritage and character regulations. Stable housing is extremely important in forming families and having children so expensive housing acts as a barrier. So it is not just influencers and lack of role models
The second income created by women in the workforce changed the economy.
@@Uphold-your-Rights for better or for worse?
You have a point it is an economic issue as well as a social one.
How tf did the elderly make housing expensive? 😂
@@loganbillings8888By limiting supply via strict local zoning rules as well as broader government regulations regarding where you can and can’t build (wetlands regulations and endangered species act banning construction in many previously viable areas), government land acquisition decreasing land supply, tariffs on construction materials (steel, wood, copper, etc) and many other limitations that didn’t exist when they were on the market for a home. Additionally they lobbied for programs such as Quantitative Easing to artificially raise the price of homes via the purchasing of Mortgage Backed Securities that were otherwise worth far, far less. As well as supporting the bailout of financial institutions that then went on to use that money to buy up thousands of homes. The list of government actions supported and lobbied by the prior generations which has contributed to the problem is rather extensive.
This why men ask where are all the good women are. Viewing money over companionship is a recipe for depression.
There are so many men that have good women and don't appreciate them.
You really thought women 60 yrs ago were marrying violent narcissists for companionship and not money?
Having companionship with no money is pretty horrible too.
Companionship comes from the good and bad times. Yours, is a yikes take. @Rose-Rose-11
@@wadoneniwho1880 I was married and homeless because of my husband. He set our apartment on fire and since we were both underemployed, it took months before we could qualify for another apartment. Companionship is okay but I really recognize the value of money after that experience. Self-preservation became my first priority from then on. I'll never be so attached to another person that I go down with them again.
Can we discuss the cost of living crisis though please, because a lot of people cannot afford rent let alone buy a house in canada and having kids will drive a lot into poverty… just a fact. So we collectively need to find a solution for families
Yes, this is the real reason people aren't having kids. It's hard enough just paying rent for yourself. There's not really a solution to it, other than waiting for the population to start declining so that demand for housing drops which will bring the cost of housing down.
Canadian situation is bad. It's very sad. However, people weren't wanting kids before this crisis in USA. It's not cool to want kids. It's cool to be DINKS. If you do want that, then first priority is finding a good partner. The other stuff you can figure out if you want it.
That’s.. just depressing. People seriously underestimate how important the family unit is to a functioning society.
People underestimate freedom
People underestimate that women don't want to do it anymore the way things have been in relationships.
Are you unaware that the definition, structure, and cost of the family unit in society have changed?
@@Just3inchesunderYou're not free, the state owns you lmao.
@@wyleecoyotee4252what nonsense are you spewing?
Girls most powerful life role models are their mothers, they literally see their mothers lives first hand. If mum's life with kids is a struggle that will inform their choices.
It's a lot of work and it's a largely thankless job. We've really lost our communities of women. It may sound silly and old fashioned, but a good quilting bee plus coffee and gossip can be very fulfilling to women. Women need the society of other women while they care for their families. @@ishmaelhope2516
@@ishmaelhope2516its not a gigantic offence. Women just don‘t want to do it all alone. Good men provide security and companionship. They don‘t complain about women.
@ishmaelhope2516 It's a gigantic offense when there is another fully grown adult in the household who could pitch (on a daily basis) but won't because certain household tasks are "beneath him".
@alexisc7565 how often does that dynamic happen, do you have and credible sources?
financial instability does not allow to have kids. if you do not know if you can earn money for urself even..
Instagram needs to be deleted forever.
And tik tok
How about hell no.
Instagram is the worst of the worst. Social media sucks in general, but IG's not even hiding it's fap nature
@@AxeMinion tik tok is the worst
@@jutsu1 how about you hold this L and ratio
Her reasoning unfortunately is super shallow. It’s not simply lack of role models for women. Does she think women are really this simple minded? Society does not make having children sustainable or realistic. Home prices keep increasing and child care is crazy expensive. Having children puts a sever economic strain on both parents, but also puts work overload strain on women who have to balance their careers along with motherhood. Maternity leave is still not mandated in the United States. It’s unfortunate that she decided to go with “lack of role models”. We need educated women that have done the research. I’m tired of seeing women on podcasts that are supposed to represent and speak for women that are uneducated. As a female viewer of your podcast it’s disheartening that men get educated voices to represent them, but I’ve noticed you have female guests that are not credible. Be fair. If you cannot find educated women I’d rather you not have women on your podcast at all.
I empathize with the sentiment here, but don’t think it’s accurate. There’s definitely been some guests that fit what you’re looking for. Maybe not as many, but that’s more a reflection of the amount of people that fit that criteria vs Chris’s choices in guests. Listen to the episodes with Louise Perry and see if that changes your mind.
i recently heard someone say that a single woman spends more money frivolously than a family of 4. If that is true, then it makes sense that women are being targeted to stay single, and make more expendable income.
How much money does a single man spend?
i believe single men were the least spending category between single women and a family of 4
@homemetalstudios759 You believe? That's rather meaningless.
@homemetalstudios759 Actually statistically the spending of single men and women is comparable.
@@wyleecoyotee4252provide a credible source to back up that claim, single men spend as much as single women? Give us some proof of that.
They're young. They're following the script. They'll be the fourth generation to follow that script. Enjoy your jobs ladies.
Sounds like the problem is _we gave them a choice to begin with._
@@wtfdtreatsalas, the price of free will.
We are. Also enjoying early retirement with a nice pension.
@@wtfdtreats It's not a problem.
@@wyleecoyotee4252Most are not. Most work to live and come home to an empty apartment. Most seek a feeling of someone caring about them online. Most have few or no meaningful relationships. Most will age alone.
I support women doing what they want, but don't ever come back complaining. You choose not to have family or do any of that, I support it. I don't care for these people who whine when they get what they ask for.
Yea but you also would complaining not wanting to pay tax wellfare for those kids😅
It finally puts a stake in the heart of the myth of "the caring female who adores children".
Yes please get that out of your heads in 2024.
That was a myth? AFAIK it's been a reality for most mothers across time. Of course there are bad mothers but they tended to be the exception not the rule.
@@hypergraphic Nope, just another myth surround women. In fact, mothers commit infanticide and commit or allow child abuse at 3 times the rate as the biological father. Outcomes for children in single motherhouse holds on average are worse on every single metric than any other type of household. Please don't say you divorced for the children, they on average do far better if you stay married or the children go to the father. Single father households have similar to identical on average outcomes as 2 biological parent families.
@@damo5701 Interesting. I guess this is a case where personal experience doesn't match the stats.
@@hypergraphic Stats can be misleading, the so-called gender pay gap is a good example where the raw stats, when not controlled for variables, seem to indicate sexism, but the reality is actually the opposite, and is a result of individual choice. The discussed on average outcomes for children in various households is a bit similar. It is important to remember the stats do not predict the individual, only the average outcomes and do not control for all variables. They do not control for variables like income or socioeconomic status for example, between single mother vs single father households. They do not for example control for opportunity, access or time spent with children which may impact the raw infanticide stats. Statistics that on the surface appear to show sexism and men in a negative light are trumpeted across the mainstream media in seconds, accompanied by rehashed stories and claims of women's oppression. Statistics that on the surface appear to show sexism and women in a negative light are usually buried, if discussed or published at all. Might explain why some people's perceptions are different to actual reality.
Woman: "Now that I am divorced, I don't understand why men my age don't want relationships leading to marriage?" Man: "How did your divorce turn out?" Woman: "I got custody of my kids, the house, alimony, child support, and half of everything, including his retirement."
Most divorced women aren't interested in marrying again
@@wyleecoyotee4252incorrect, they can't find a man.
There has to be some middle ground between “I am an independent woman who never wants kids”, and “I am a codependent woman who has no independence in her life.” In much of today’s banter, we have lost any appreciation for the middle ground.
It seems like it has to be one extreme or the other but really, it doesn't have to be. That sweet middle ground
All of this goes back to family issues. These girls were neglected, had no paternal role model, and are addicted to social media. Their lives revolve around their ego because that's what they were taught.
Great comment!!
Yes, I don't disagree with you. I just hope we don't take the other extreme choice of controlling with shame and guilt and using social pressure to force early marriage when a woman may not be ready. I hope there's a balance. @@vladimirofsvalbard9477
Nuance in our discourse went missing a long time ago. Every conversation from politics, to economics, to pop culture focuses on the extremes.
people crave for what they don`t have but need. As the population is growing, their need for children and communities decreases, their need for money increases.
Yea but its not substainable to create enough houses for all the single people
It's almost like social media is the problem and has been all along.
I'm a happily married stay at home mom and I don't think having kids would be fufilling for everyone. Looking at modern society in the west, 90% of people absolutely should not have kids. They shouldn't even be around them.
I dunno about 90%.... That's obviously an exaggeration. And if only 10% of adults procreate, what are we just gonna allow ourselves to go extinct?
Ok privilege lady
If 90% of people don't have kids, humanity will end.
Wisdom comes from experience. Experience comes from a lack of wisdom. When the current generation gets to an age where they are reflecting on their choices, we will discover if they found true happiness in their choices.
The year 2024 is very different for many women depending on their situation and money doesn't grow on trees. I'm borderline millennial/Gen-Z and having a family is extremely important to me but between working and going to school part-time, I tend to get involved w/ the wrong guys. Being single currently and for a few months has caused me to refocus. I work and take care of myself and myself only like I'm supposed to and it's hard to concentrate on anything else but the grind when you have essentials to pay for.
Women's income and fertility are negatively correlated. Men's income and fertility is positively correlated. The government is overwhelming decreasing men's money and increasing women's via direct and indirect methods
Well said. As a past Presidant said, "It's the economy, stupid", well today it can be stretched to be more exact...."It's the obscene cost of houses/rents, groceries, utilities, student loans, and gas, stupid"
I would love to have a family but it's looking like I'll be 40 before I hit the point where I can afford it, assuming the economy doesn't get worse. The prospect of kids being in the house until I'm 58 isn't super appealing either. Even then I'd still have to try and find a partner in the terrible era of dating. Probably just going to keep focusing on career and use my niece and nephews to fill that void.
People can say what they want but without money you cannot do anything for your family and loved ones. You need money. Whether you are a man or a woman.
Without loved ones having money isn't all that fulfilling. It's one of those damn no win situations.
A woman can absolutely care for her family and extended family without money -
@@michaelrobertson1736 she also better be a fantastic farmer too, cause if you can’t buy food, you better be able to make it
oh yeah? If our parents and their parents thought the same way, today we would not exist.
Grew up poor in a big family, money is just an excuse. Living a quiet life in a small town makes life (and a family) affordable, letting go of selfish consumerism is what is really holding people back.
Work is a 4 letter word. When you are on your death bed, you will not be saying "oh I should have worked more" but you may say "I wish I had" said this, done that, been there. Life is about experiences.
Life is expensive! What is wrong with no wanting a little human to suffer? Yes, having a kid has never been easy never will be. But many millennials are surviving not thriving. 2 bedroom apartment with roommate is not great. I myself have been able to save. However, even if I make more than I ever have, I have less (gas takes 1/3 of my paycheques) $300 of food is a week worth… I enjoy the time we live in because everything you want to know is at your fingertips. You have the possibility to earn more by developing skills… However 9-5 is no longer enough to survive even with a job that is not minimum wage. All that to say that making kids just to make kids might be selfish. I want to be able to help them if I make that choice. My two cents… thanks for coming to my comment.
Move
They're doing us a favor. Who wants an addled, angry mostly absent mom??
I think people need to start thinking for themselves instead of following masses. I hated playing with other kids as a kid and now at 29 I still can't relate or enjoy their company so its never been in my cards. On the flip side I enjoy being a homemaker and l realized I have no interest of leveling up my career. Talking to women 10 years older than me the ones that had kids and families regret it and the ones that were hoes regret not starting families. People need to live intention smh
I agree. People should live by the quote “to thine own self be true”. If you want to level up your career and nothing else do that. If you want to marry and have kids while still having your career, do that. If you want to just play the field until you can’t anymore, do that. It’s all about what’s best for you.
Are we talking about being the ONLY developed country that gives infants of 6-12 week old over to random humans at FACILITIES for 50 of their waking hours a week who then switch as the kids “age” out of their “rooms” so actually bonding NEVER occurs as it takes TIME and no you aren’t a “full time” parent if you work full time as kids sleep so much during that first few months on and off and then need 12 hours of sleep or more during those developmental years so it’s MATH instead of feelings or be labels. No judgement but talk to an actual full time mom and her day is night and day difference to working moms in many ways. For one they can FAIL and learn constantly! They are not easily shamed and their kids are better behaved as no way you can have a little tyrant in the house all day snd not set some boundaries. We have humans that don’t know how to “human” so WHY would kids want to have families when they don’t know what they never had…they are PEER bonded not family bonded. Group think is strong with these little humans coming up. Critical thinking require life experience as they DO NOT have at the most basic level. No wonder anxiety with the indoctrination of all the things that they are told threaten their survival which they blindly believe without some perspective of wisdom.
I can't beleive you have no maternity/paternity leave..that is literally crmiinal as it produces criminals.
I have a neighbor that's a far leftist but was brought up Christian and married young and started cranking out babies with her weak Christian college husband. He refused to hold a job if it wasn't what he went to school for but couldn't keep a job doing what he went to school for so he wouldn't work. She cranked out 5 babies and adopted 2 with him before divorcing him. So then she married another deadbeat male and had one more baby. They are poor obviously and she's been home with the kids too because she won't work. She has 7 girls. Do you think those girls want kids? No. The oldest gals have been raising their siblings.
Chris, don’t worry about others people’s lives, what they do or don’t do because it has nothing to do with you. Worry about your own and live your own and let others live theirs.
Actually other people not having kids IS everyone’s problem because a lack of children now means a lack of working people in the future. This includes healthcare workers, tradespeople, farmers, etc. So unless you plan on not eating, not going to the doctor and not needing any electricity in the future when you are old, this is a huge problem for all of us. But unfortunately not everyone seems equipped with the IQ required to see the long term effects of the current path we are on.
He seems hyper fixated, where is his wife thought?
If they remade that song about wearing sunscreen and how to be happy now; it would need to include advice to ignore popular culture, stay off of tiktok twitter and instagram and ignore what the cretins on the internet think about basically everything.
The pendulum swings. The wheel goes round.
Social media is like a gun. We shouldn’t be giving our 10 yr old children smart phones with instagram. We will look back in this time with shame similar to like when we dipped stove pipe hats in mercury. Makes a sweet hat but, you know, kinda has it’s downside too. Let’s recognize and do better.
Social media isn't a gun, it is a bottomless supply of heroin.
Agreed. The worst thing we did as a society was normalize children having smart phones. How did parents everywhere decide that this was a good idea!? 🤦🏻♂️
Yeah, I always tell my 8 year old son that phones are like fire. They can be used for good in certain contexts, but uncontrolled use will destroy you.
When are you having kids Chris? Feels a little hypocritical until you’re willing to cut some time out of your career to be a father.
Sperm last forever….eggs, not so much.
@@jacobrodriguez7771 Yeah, and there are fewer and fewer eggs in the game. Sperm is not the limiting factor. Eggs are. Getting sperm has never been hard. He’s talking about why women are not having children. That means men aren’t having children either. The question can also be asked of men. Why aren’t more men having children? He’s disparaging career over family but is doing the same thing himself. Hypocrisy.
@@Noneoyobiznaz Yes but YOU are talking about why a man has not had kids.....YET. Women not having kids does not mean that men are not having kids, it may mean that they are not having kids yet, because men can have kids forever.
@@jacobrodriguez7771 oh yes, I forgot that men can have children without women having children. Great point. So the older men of today, older than Chris is right now, men the age Chris may decide to have children at, it sounds like they’re not having children either then, because fewer women are having children. It’s almost like they’re connected in some way, eh?
@@jacobrodriguez7771 Government statistics show 25% and 15% of women, NEVER have kids in the US. Therefore, most women do have kids, but a much greater percentage of men never do their part. Why is that? Most men don't want to have kids. Most men have kids by accident. Even if they had the choice, most men do not want to be fathers at 50 years old.
we are living out the rat utopia 25 experiment done in the 1960's in real, and the government has an invested interest in keeping this disaster going. you cannot fix this, only really hard times can fix this.
Debbie Hary's portrait on the wall!
Well, when you're so busy "outsourcing" yourself, your emotions, whatever, then I guess you'd better be prepared to outsource your own funeral and funeral party because nobody from the water department is going to send a rep to give a memorial over your casket about how wonderful a bill payer you were.
OK but then you are dead. So who cares?
Our grandchildren are not yet old enough to be interested in dating. Still we talk about family, and generations, and their future, and the expectation they will marry and have children and grandchildren. This is called actively participating in society -- it is deliberate, and being ready to raise a family does not just happen. The alternative in its simplest form, is just being selfish -- and that takes no effort at all.
Something tells me theres going to be a lot of lonely women out there in the near future. 😢
Oh the threats leveled at women. You think men are exempt? If women aren't getting married, then neither are men.
There is already a lot of lonely people out there. We're already going down the slope.
@lorrilewis2178 All of this talk of "lonely women" as if women aren't better at creating and maintaining social circles lmao
@@alexisc7565👍👍👍
That's just your revenge fantasy.
Never in history has there been a bigger epidemic of future Cat owning, Spinster Karens. There’s one in every metropolitan apartment complex.
Yeah and it sucks for the single men out there.
Na guys won't want to grow old alone either. Will be some settling in mid to late 40s.
@@giantent763They can just date younger.
Never in history has there been an epidemic of bitter incels due to women not having to pair with them. Imagine a cat being preferred over a man. Doesn't say much about the men.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 tbf most people defer to pets when they don't want to deal with other people. Men are also getting dogs and cats lol
In all fairness, so many of us(no one is exempt)in front of our peers cheer and celebrated certain ways of acting or thinking but on our own strive for the complete opposite. Again, in the end each individual most own their decisions.
As a 28 year old male, I’d sell my soul for the girl of my dreams to admit she wants to marry me and have kids where I’m the sole worker and she gets to raise the kids and care for the family. I’d work all day everyday just to provide for them and I’d be so happy. That’s what I want. I’d work forever to have a happy family.
There are plenty of women who want the same but they probably aren’t the girl of your dreams. The girl of yours dreams has her own dreams and aspirations.
Interesting episode, Chris and Freya. Chris, it would be helpful if you can put the link of the research you cited by Pew Research Center in the show notes. By the way, in May 2023, Kim Parker, Director of Social Trends Research at the Pew Research Center, published an article titled "How Pew Research Center will report on generations moving forward," outlining the center's reevaluation of its approach to generational research. This entailed establishing clear guidelines to conduct analysis only with historical data allowing comparison at similar life stages, controlling for age and other factors, and avoiding oversimplified generational labels unless they add substantial value to understanding societal trends. This reassessment was prompted by a major research project on Gen Z to ensure alignment with values of accuracy, rigor, and enriching public discourse with factual foundations.
He can't stop interrupting her.
People plan for careers. They often don't plan on falling in love and having a family.
Gen Z women don't want to have families because they can't be bothered to look away from their phones for more than two minutes.
Our parents significantly influence our priorities. My parents emphasized work over personal life, particularly focusing on traditional roles. Until I left home at 24, they did not accept or allow dating, prioritizing work and household chores instead. Conversely, even if woman want to have a family and not work, many men find themselves unable to solely support a family financially, necessitating dual-income households. Despite my mother’s disdain for being a stay-at-home wife, I harbored dreams of embracing that role myself. I yearned for a life centered around loving, nurturing, and homeschooling my children, a vision quite distinct from the expectations set by my upbringing. I spend most of my time working, but I dream of a day when I find a man I can trust that he will value me respect me and want to care for me, as much as I care for him and his children. I dont know what it will take for things to come to a good balance for men and woman to come together in a healthy harmonious way. I just know we gotta do the inner work and keep doing our best until we find our match.
Beautiful. I admire your perspective, especially during these times. There are good men out there that are waking up and want the same thing, so keep looking.
because society is collapsing.
Yes... so why waste time on children. It won't fix geo politics and environmental disasters.
Any day now....
@@Just3inchesunderwe will die out though - you’re cool with that?
@Kayscastle it won't be because of this, but yes.. I am content with extinctions as they have always happened and 99.9% of all species that ever existed are extinct. Anything else?
@@Just3inchesunderstop being edgy, you're not cool, I promise.
I realize this might be a little off topic - but one of the things that I rarely if ever hear people talk about on these podcasts is how to reframe situations to see what is right about things . . .Year, I realize this is a crazy world these days but even with that - consider that even the poorest now lives as good as kings did several hundreds of years ago and people have more than they ever had. . .rare to hear anyone celebrating the good or what's right about that. . .it's almost this addiction to looking for the wrong or what's bad in everything and the world - versus making an effort to reframe situations to see something might be right about the situation . . . If we look back throughout history, there really is no such thing as normal. . .in fact, I think a person does a great disservice to themselves when they have a concept of "normal" and then use it as a baseline to compare themselves and the world to. The one thing that has been constant throughout history is change. There are good times, bad times, times of war, times of peace, the model of "relationship" and relating with the opposite sex always are in a state of change. There's another context to look at life from I find to be FAR more empowering and seems to make a lot more sense in this topsy tervy sort of world a mentor mentioned to me years ago. He said, that consider that we come into life with the full range of emotions (including anger, fear, sadness, grief, etc). When I get angry, it looks like I'm angry because of something that happens external me - and I go to work trying to fix or change that external thing (i.e. try to solve the problems of the world, change your partner who triggers you, etc). Another way to look at it, is that they trigger the negative emotions already there inside us that was around way BEFORE the external trigger showed up. In other words, my partner or the opposite sex might trigger my anger that was already there from BEFORE. This is a really really good thing because we probably don't want to be going through life holding on to that anger or whatever anyways. It's really an opportunity to see what's inside us to let it go, and we're left with being more loving, compassionate, etc. I think what we're really doing here at the end of the day is learning to "process out" that which we don't want to carry around so that we can be more loving and compassionate . . .and things that trigger us are just opportunities in disguise. . .I realize this might not be a popular viewpoint, but maybe far more empowering at the end of the day - and the things we see out in the world and stuff that triggers us, can actually be perceived as opportunities.
I think women still romanticize work and careers in a way men don't anymore. Women came into the workforce in large numbers later. So the jadedness hasn't set in as firmly yet. Give them time. They'll start prioritizing family more again.
could be because they receive preferential treatment in the workplace
@@xiaoliu4617 Indeed, they have a good life: They are promoted as a priority ... they win divorce... no contest here! All aid goes primarily to them over boys/men ... Their problems take priority over men's problems
@@xiaoliu4617 The office where I used to work in London had a 'Diversity' hiring policy forced on the staff. All of a sudden the office went from being about 50/50, Men/Women.... To like 85% Women. They literally fired every masculine man in the office. They even fired the lovable grumpy old janitor. (Had a heart of gold really). They replaced him with some cheap migrant fresh off the boat. All it proved was that when these progressive women get into power, they don't actually want equality. They want domination. The greatest irony, is 6 years later, the company is doing terrible. Apparently they are now looking to backtrack on these disastrous policies. Almost certainly too late from what I have heard on the grapevine.
@@salkoharper2908 thanks for sharing the story, sorry to hear your workplace has deteriorated. i'm just starting my career, and am at a loss about how to deal with these DEI hustlers in the workplace.
I get the impression there are different motives for the need to have careers and succeed between men and younger/gen-z women. In the main, Men traditionally and hopefully still want a ‘good’ job (in whatever form that takes) with prospects as a means of providing for a family and for them all to have as comfortable life as possible, whereas the current narrative for women to have good, successful careers is to make lots of money for themselves, be a girl boss, and stick two fingers up at men, which seems to be supported by those in power in many industries and the media making it harder for family-orientated men (and women) to be successful. This attitude has got to be less conducive to society(?).
women just want security. and in todays world the best way is not marriage, but a good job.
@@lorinori3776 I get that. Shame a good job is becoming harder and harder to find now.
I have never even heard a Taylor Swift song. LOL! I think 10 years ago, some of my students said that they liked Taylor Swift. I was like, who's that? Since nobody listens to the radio anymore.
....I work at a place where the radio is always on and I can't control it. I listen to a lot of music againt my will including Taylor Swift and Doja Cat, and Dua Lipa or whatever
If Travis Kelce wants kids why would he be with an elderly 34 year old woman??? Makes no sense.
most women can have kids up to 45 years, after that with assistance
@@Sky10811 35 is considered the start of "advanced maternal age" with higher risk pregnancies and potential birth defects, if she is even fertile enough to conceive.
@@laurast.martin2421 there r some increased risks but they are detectable on early stages of pregnancy, where interuption is possible. so, most important is to do a blood test to check quantity of "eggs", it s very simple blood test + ultrasound for overall health there
Millennial parents say they don’t enjoy playing with their own children ( recent study) wtf
Latin Mass is where the children are! More kids there than I have seen anywhere.
37:11 I feel this so much on male action heroes having crazy unrealistic physiques! Shoutout to Robert Pattinson who refused to take steroids for The Batman - unlike a lot of male action stars. In that movie he has the body of someone with a rigorous fitness regimen but it’s not unachievable. It’s a step in the right direction.
THERES HOPE, ITS A PRIORITY FOR MEEEE❤😂
Really sucks. Dating has been terrible. I turn 40 in June, single no kids. Always wanted to be a father.
You still have time. It's a numbers game. A lady's man once told me: "swing at 100 hit one." You got this.
Older men teach younger men how to older men. Younger women teach older women how to be younger women.
Hey….if they don’t have kids, the downstairs tunnel stays tight. So there is an upside, with no additional costs… As Terence Popp would say…..Winning !!!!
Are you 12 years old?
Time only knows the price we have to pay, time will say nothing, but i told you so.
Damn! Good Video Chris! This topic is real important in these times. We have to make a change in society, we have to unmatrix it
You live in a weird world or maybe i do because i have never heard of Alex Cooper or the body builder you mentioned. Maybe they are less influential than you think.
Peer pressure will make you do and say stupid things.
Quite frankly..the advance of Asia put paid to a lot. A fact isnt racist. .it is a fact.
its a fair point to talk about the diabolical role models women have but at the end of the day it takes people with initiative to change it. perhaps freya should be one of those role models who changes it 🤷
It's funny hearing her say that would obstruct with children, I kinda see people dreaming of being famous as little kids.
Social media algorithms are getting really creepy about guilting people into having kids. Based on the view count it cant just be my personal algorithm?
Yeah, I love kids but people are free to do what they want. Stop with the guilt already.
54k views are nothing
its prolly your buddies watching youtube vids related to this topic in your house while using your wifi, which causes your algorithm to change a lil bit, cuz youtube is like that
Yea you have probably just that baby making age, but maby you are right and it is a trend. I used to watch alot off self help but at the moment the tone seems to be more cynical.
Probably because the west is on the verge of a population crisis.
Again this lady’s definition is not everyone definition of fulfilling life. Maybe for those who find family or children a fulfillment the country should do something to help them better.
all comes down to money. people can't afford to buy a home let alone rise a family. the average person is broke and have vary little savings if any.
Nothing to do with money, its a cultural thing.
Women's income and fertility are negatively correlated. Men's income and fertility is positively correlated. The government is overwhelming decreasing men's money and increasing women's via direct and indirect methods
@@gdulaukasz3947 so what do you just water your kids and they grow in the ground? Having a kid with no means to support them is cruel and not what any kid deserves.
@@Emptybladder Been on my own since early twenties. Have 10y daughter and I would say it once again - it is not about the money
@@broteinstain8256So how do you explain high birth rates in the poorest countries on the planet? If people in Western countries supposedly want kids so badly but couldn't because of costs, why aren't they emigrating to a country with a lower cost of living to ensure they could start a family? The reason is the same reason why they don't do it in a Western country - they simply don't want kids enough to make sacrifices on their comfortable lifestyles. It's cultural, not economic.
So true about Alex Cooper. I always wondered why nobody called her out for the promiscuous behavior she promoted
Women value safety and are far more risk adverse than men on average. The best way to ensure safety and security in America is to have money. Being a SAHM is essentially going all in on a bet. The reality is, if a marriage doesn't work out, it's going to be near impossible for a single mom with kids to find another man to support her.
a good solution would be if we normalised husbands paying their sahm wives salaries and pensions for staying home. more women would be willing to have (several) children then.
@@skamgodt964 and what happens if the husband is unable to pay those salaries/pensions ?
He should be interested in finding ways to make it actually save and worthwhile for her to take that risk staying at home. If they can't afford her staying home, both can work, pay for childcare and share the housework and childrearing ultra fairly. Pay according to their income etc. Real 50/50.@@crazycrazy7710
@skamgodt964 you realise men aren't exactly lining up to get married right ? You'll only further discourage them from getting married with terms like that.
@@jayc342009 I am not responsible for ppl getting married or not and I don't care if I "discourage" another adult from not marrying .It's a good thing less women settle. We aren't desperate to be picked and married into unfavourable and dangerous situations. If a man wants a sahm, he has to afford it and make it actually fair, even beyond marriage.
My theory is this is a natural response to overpopulation. We have run out of desirable land to build housing on so the cost of land has risen to the point of making housing a family an expensive luxury. People are deciding it ain't worth it.
Is this the uneven eyebrow episode…..so funny to watch 😂😂😂
Big Responsibilities managing the Gift of God's creations. I'm sure he's watching these Characters play Mr & Mrs Dress-up
They seemed to have been so spoiled , they are all about me .. they won’t make good parents as they are too selfish
Literally, she had nothing to say, Chris, WTF.
Nobody gives worse advice to younger women than older women. This is a huge part of the reason why we are where we are right now PS That's Sam guy is also on unbelievably outrageous amounts of gear as well. He's not that authentic
Poor people dont seem to have the same hang-ups, they just keep cranking out kids as fast as they can.
they dont care about quality of life. for them or their kids
They want that extra free government paycheck
@@akumacode quality nowdays means being a saudi king rofl.
@@akumacode go back in time 100 years and tell me again about quality of life. we've never had it better in the developed world.
State handouts
Dear women, please pay your taxes, work hard to enrich us, and buy consumer products. Oh and men, you do the same. Signed, THE OWNERS
4:18 Masterclass and amazing point, Alex Cooper another grifter in the space.
The fulfillment from family/children is one of those things that most people can't even comprehend until they've experienced it, and the rise in single parent households means that fewer people growing up ever will get to experience it. I was listening to comedian Dave Smith's podcast a while back, and he said that he was astonished at how starting a family made his other pursuits in life seem so trivial in comparison: his family is THE most important thing in his life, and there is nothing that comes in a close 2nd.
This is why in countries like the UK men are increasingly abandoning pursuit of egocentric British women for more traditional feminine women from abroad.
1:05 I disagree. You don’t have to be “the best” salesperson. The top 10% or 20% will make great money or you could switch careers You can say “everyone” hypothetically could have a good family life, but half of marriages end in divorce and there isn’t a ‘separate career path’ option there
People would rather have a 1000 fake friends on the internet that claim to love them instead of having one person in real life that actually loves them.
Make Women Great Again
Gotta love listening to advice about happiness from the generation with the most mental health issues.
so that's it then. after the struggles of our forefathers and even more so our foremothers, we have just a few generations left. going out w a whimper.
Nothing lasts forever. It's ridiculous to think humans would be on this earth infinitely.
@@sonicleaves infinite, certainly, but 3 generations hence... surprising
@@TOM-op2cp True, it shouldn't have happened this soo but the change from strong to weak happened very quickly and no one seems to notice, not even now. I guess people will notice when it affects them in some way.
@@sonicleaves then a Dark Age, and something new, humans being better at adaption than planning.
@@TOM-op2cp Adapting to extinction
That sam sulek came out of nowhere 💀💀💀
I wonder why parents no longer instill values in children? My dad taught me the world and now i'm 30 and a conservative. It's so easy to understand that family is the center for society and mankind. It keeps people in a frame that we all benefit from. You dont want to live a hedonistic life, its shallow and don't present happiness in the long run.
There's people out there that prefer happiness over falling into conservative expectations.
I dont understand what you mean, being a conservative is not in conflict with being happy. I think you can make a pretty solid case that choosing a path in life where you put faith in following hedonistic instics as a guiding light and star will not only hamster your own happiness in the long run, it will also significantly reduce your chanses of creating a longterm happy life because of the obsticles it brings to obey animalistic instincs like an untetered toddler in a candy shop. @@wyleecoyotee4252
Maybe that lifestyle actually does make some people happy in the long run.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 the point is, conservative values and lifestyle are what bring lasting happiness. For those raised with these values, it comes easy. Others feel the desperate need to try everything out in search for happiness and the lucky ones eventually come around. Have you not heard the phrase, ‘If You Are Not a Liberal When You Are Young, You Have No Heart, and If You Are Not a Conservative When Old, You Have No Brain’ Traditions (traditional) values are experiments that have worked. In other words, there is a reason certain values are traditional. Turning away from conservative or traditional values is not the "progress" you think it is.
@@WranglermanLevi Conservative values and lifestyle do NOT bring happiness..
I’m telling ya, it’s women that have changed. I never thought I would see the day where a man would feel that having a wife kids and family would be more important to him than a woman. My mind is blown.
Women have changed due to the increase of women rights and workforce opportunities. There is now an option out of the patriarchal ideology of how a woman should live their lives. The evidence is clear, if a woman has a choice over her life, the first thing that comes to mind is her freedom - not motherhood like males have brainwashed into them for decades. I believe males are having an issue with this because woman are now living their lives as free as them.
He's not laughing at her, but look at her face before it cuts @6:42-6:55 His response is a HUGE turnoff. I don't think he knows he comes across as arrogant by knowing everything about everything. (And reminding you constantly by quoting blocks of text verbatim.)
People have gotten way more selfish. Their primary worry is chasing their own happiness. Compared to past Generation, service to others has far less value. The catch-22 is, service can bring a lot of happiness when it is reciprocated.
Human beings will sacrifice everything for their highest priority. Now we are sacrificing everything for money.
I wonder how many youtubers who are anti-hookup culture are just performing as well.
Im 25 year old male. I love the idea of having a wife and kids and having a girl to share my life with. However is important to be realistic and see that young people today face a lot of challenges that people 20 or 30 years ago don't. Crumbling economy, as well as declining moral issues and double standards as well as the fact that both men and women seem to be against each other when we actually need each other always are just a few. It may be selfish to not want kids but it can be more selfish to have kids today and raising them in an unpredictable world and not know how they will cope with it.