Are Twin Snowboards Dead? | Nitro Board Comparison

2024 ж. 22 Мам.
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In this video, Taevis Compares a Directional Snowboard to a Twin Snowboard, to see where each Board thrives or dives.
Twin Board - The TEAM PRO 159 - True Camber - Flex 8/10.
Find it here: You can find it here: nitrosnowboards.com/en/22-23/...
Directional Board - The ALTERNATOR 160 - True Camber - Flex 7/10
Find it here: nitrosnowboards.com/en/23-24/...
Both Boards were set up on reference stance.
Binding Angles -9 +12
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0:00 - Intro
2:07 - Team Pro Carving
4:45 - Alternator Carving
8:16 - Park
10:30 - Park On The Alternator
17:34 - Riding Switch
19:50 - TIME TO GO BIG
22:10 - Final Thoughts

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  • sick skills. credit to all the work that's put in. he could shred the mountain on a coffee table if he wanted to

    @ericlim5920@ericlim59203 ай бұрын
  • I ride in the midwest. Never giving up my twin.

    @maness2112@maness21124 ай бұрын
    • I live in Tahoe and I only ride twins 🤷‍♂️

      @Longest_dong420@Longest_dong4202 ай бұрын
    • I used to only ride twins and I do still prefer them for normal activities. I was very against directional actually. I bought a directional twin this year though with about 1.5CM set back in the certs. Nose has more lift but camber is from point to point. It's a mild directional and it's a good addition to my quiver. I like riding switch as much as I can but aftwr getting my directional twin I wanna now get something like this to add as well. I love bombing irresponsibly fast almost as much as I love park. If you have the $ I think it's a good investment, but my heart is more geared towards (and if I didn't have the money for more than 1 board) something like the beast instead. Last year if you asked me this I would had said f no, nope, not doing it😂🤷‍♂️ FWIW I live in Maine. This would be a special occasion board. Likely keeping edges super sharp and stay off the rails, but who knows.

      @clifford_2zero7@clifford_2zero7Ай бұрын
    • I will always and I repeat ALWAYS be against rocker or any damn banana board😂 no need for that nonsense

      @clifford_2zero7@clifford_2zero7Ай бұрын
  • Video should be titled "Park bunny discovers all mountain boards" 😂. I only owned one park board.... My first board in 2002. Since then I've always used all mountain/directional or custom powder board with rocker in the nose. Great video Tae!

    @rocksnowandwater@rocksnowandwater4 ай бұрын
    • Actually tho😂 definitely gonna be having a directional board in my bag from now on!

      @Taevis-Kapalka@Taevis-Kapalka4 ай бұрын
    • @@Taevis-Kapalkahow much do you weigh and what length did you ride the alternator in? You’re riding is sick my man 😎

      @born2drum1@born2drum12 ай бұрын
  • Valid video my favourite part is when he falls on the front 10 and then gets back up and does it the next lap good job man ❤

    @Lightsnacks777k@Lightsnacks777k4 ай бұрын
    • Thanks dude!!! Definitely not gonna make a habit of doing that though 😂

      @Taevis-Kapalka@Taevis-Kapalka4 ай бұрын
  • been riding a 160 alternator for a few days now and I love it so far. I had the same reaction as you when I started euro carving down a steep groomer first run ("whooo!"). No heel chatter, no slipping out, you can really grip it and rip it. It's NOT my first directional board by any means, it just carves so well! Feels good in the air, makes tweaking nose grabs and methods really fun. haven't hit any rails yet but if I can do most the tricks I really like doing on my 173 nitro cannon, (front lips, front boards, weird boardslide to grab combos) then I'm sure the alternator will be good enough for my needs in the park

    @demetrius8594@demetrius85943 ай бұрын
    • That’s sick! Thanks for sharing 🙌🏻

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction3 ай бұрын
  • Like this guy, informative tips

    @Jrod32391@Jrod323913 ай бұрын
  • This felt so live lol. Bravo👏 and thanks for the intel!

    @JG_Tsunami@JG_Tsunami3 ай бұрын
    • You're so welcome!

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction3 ай бұрын
  • I ride a directional board as it gave me a good excuse for not being able to ride switch....until I watched this video...😄

    @Jon-Chan@Jon-Chan4 ай бұрын
  • yeah Sean super stalked to see you in a review was just random clicking for breaky. Good session in the uluwatu bowl !

    @snappyflappy4771@snappyflappy47714 ай бұрын
  • Dude sounds like a put together-chill Daxflame and rips like a champ. Didnt expect to be so entertained ahah. Great video. Props to camera team too.

    @manuelr8036@manuelr803628 күн бұрын
    • 🙏🏻

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction27 күн бұрын
  • Just the content I’ve been waiting for, thanks guys! Actually have the alternator, couldn’t ask more from a board

    @Smag623@Smag6234 ай бұрын
    • Great to hear!

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction4 ай бұрын
  • If there was anyone I'd follow around the mountain trying to learn it'd be this dude!!

    @MikeyohMikey@MikeyohMikey3 ай бұрын
    • me tooooo

      @aeiseiei9113@aeiseiei91133 ай бұрын
  • Really informative and super entertaining video Tae. Awesome

    @stephensykes8635@stephensykes86352 ай бұрын
    • Glad you enjoyed it😁

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction2 ай бұрын
  • Great video!

    @anthonyb3940@anthonyb39404 ай бұрын
    • Glad you enjoyed it!

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction4 ай бұрын
  • Got the 162W alternator. Set the bindings back one set for powder. If you ride it fast it really flies through the powder…

    @josesbox9555@josesbox95552 ай бұрын
  • True twin is the only type I make sure to have at least one of ready to go each season

    @MSCCA@MSCCA4 ай бұрын
  • Great video! Thank you! I've been riding the Lib Tech Travis Rice Pro for many years now and is what I learned on. Looking to take the next step with a new board, and this video pretty much sealed it for me. Any advice between the Nitro Alternator v. Nitro Banker?

    @Sooner2328@Sooner23283 ай бұрын
    • stoked we could help! We haven't tried the banker, but it goes hard as well. I'd say if you are planning on shredding park go for the Alternator, but if you are looking for a bit more play out of your board on the mountain the baker is a good choice. Both are awesome boards that you will enjoy!

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction2 ай бұрын
    • @@SnowboardAddiction thank you for the reply! Subscribed and looking forward to more of your videos!

      @Sooner2328@Sooner23282 ай бұрын
  • Second year snowboarding, 40yo, and man, this video was one of the best I ever saw! Really fascinating. Currently I have a yes Hel yes (agressif hybrid directional), and I was wondering what would be my next step. For sure will be a directional full camber ❤ I just would like to have a option like that for girls board, I'm a light men (5'8" us 7.5, 138pounds)

    @felipe2fp@felipe2fp3 ай бұрын
    • Check out the Nitro Snowboards lineup they have some great options!

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction3 ай бұрын
  • wow! crazy good... how stiff is the team pro relative to a custom or custom x? thanks!

    @J-tu3hw@J-tu3hw3 ай бұрын
    • Super relative to the custom, it's pretty much nitros custom. If you like the Custom the team pro would hit all the same points.

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction3 ай бұрын
  • imo a tweaked true tail 360 (either side) can be a pretty sweet single-hand outside the bindings

    @The0rnate@The0rnate2 ай бұрын
  • A great video, I'm actually considering choosing Team or alternator, I'm using Directional now, I think alternators are interesting, and the 2425 alternator is beautiful.

    @dinghaoji8819@dinghaoji8819Ай бұрын
  • arguably the definition is simply evolving, does this mean that a certain style is dead? nah, but some super cool developments!! keep stoke \m/

    @RobPerreault@RobPerreault4 ай бұрын
  • Such a fun video, sick first 10 of the season!

    @DeceitfulDestiny@DeceitfulDestiny4 ай бұрын
    • Glad you enjoed it!!!

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction4 ай бұрын
  • What kind of training do you do to avoid screaming FUUU** on camera? Love this vid. I’ve been debating twin vs directional for a minute now.

    @furpicus@furpicus4 ай бұрын
    • Even David gogings would be screaming like that, no joke tearing the cheeks is unbelievably painful! If you don’t believe then you are blessed enough to not have experienced it yourself 😂

      @Taevis-Kapalka@Taevis-Kapalka4 ай бұрын
  • @snowboardaddiction what is your stance width and angles on Team Pro?

    @tomsprieditis3447@tomsprieditis34474 ай бұрын
    • I don’t know the numbers, but I’m reference stance with -9 +12 Should be around 22 to 23 inches in width

      @Taevis-Kapalka@Taevis-Kapalka3 ай бұрын
  • Would the alternator do well as a powder focused board in a 2 board quiver with a true twin park board?

    @jaredray3326@jaredray33263 ай бұрын
    • 100% it’s the main go to pow board of many top riders! Super wide noise so it crushes pow and chop.

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction3 ай бұрын
  • Need to get him on a twinpig or yes greats unic, or a lago double barrel.

    @dootdoot1867@dootdoot18673 ай бұрын
  • how do you detune your camber boards to use on rails? Rounding your edges, or would a base bevel suffice? Thanks.

    @johnpark7846@johnpark78462 ай бұрын
    • I don’t do anything to my edges, just carve for a few laps! I only dull my edges for street riding.

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction2 ай бұрын
    • @@SnowboardAddiction wow, that's brave, so you have no fear of catching on any rails in the park without beveling or filing down edges? Why only do it for street? Just asking becaue i'm deciding between a rocker camber vs a camrock board as my park board. Thanks again!

      @johnpark7846@johnpark78462 ай бұрын
  • Were you able to try the aeronaut? How does it compare to the alternator?

    @suppaduppa5@suppaduppa5Ай бұрын
    • Not yet! Maybe Nitro will send us one next year:)

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddictionАй бұрын
  • Even for pure park it's fun sometimes to have a difference between your nose and tail. You can get a little more creative as your switch tricks hit little different than your regular.

    @Tych333@Tych3333 ай бұрын
  • Ride kink for 2 seasons, just got a lobster creamer. Oh was it ever creamy!! Directional twin has impressed me. Still love my Tru twin

    @DaBluBarron1918@DaBluBarron19184 ай бұрын
  • Can you test out the cam-out camber by nitro? Been contemplating buying the nitro dropout

    @liamrog2278@liamrog22783 ай бұрын
    • If we can get out hands on one we will!

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction3 ай бұрын
  • im saying like what about nose grab or tail grab. Thats out side the bindings ?

    @scottmcmanus8158@scottmcmanus81584 ай бұрын
    • Also I definitely count the pretzel out. You gotta consider the equipment. slight more margin for error and barelysluffed.

      @scottmcmanus8158@scottmcmanus81584 ай бұрын
    • We count those of course!

      @Taevis-Kapalka@Taevis-Kapalka4 ай бұрын
    • tindy @ scott.

      @tomatojoe@tomatojoe4 ай бұрын
  • Imo more people should be on directional, realistically how much are you actually riding switch?

    @oldgreg506@oldgreg5064 ай бұрын
    • Even when riding switch it’s not a massive factor, so it’s definitely worth looking into:)

      @Taevis-Kapalka@Taevis-Kapalka3 ай бұрын
  • How come you’ve never ridden Directional Twin before, if there are videos of you riding Nitro Team(not PRO version), which is exactly Directional Twin

    @isub-zerozerol1472@isub-zerozerol14724 ай бұрын
    • As far as I know, the team has inch more on the noise but that’s all. Other then that it’s exactly the same. A directions bored in my opinion means it is different from one end to the other and is set back a good amount. If it can be confused for true twin it is true twin in my books haha

      @Taevis-Kapalka@Taevis-Kapalka4 ай бұрын
    • @@Taevis-KapalkaThe nose of Team is wider and softer than the tail, so it’s already not a true twin. Setback is not big, but it’s present. True twin boards don’t have such things

      @user-hi3il4iu9q@user-hi3il4iu9q4 ай бұрын
    • @@user-hi3il4iu9qCan’t say I ever noticed, I wouldn’t bother factoring that in honestly haha

      @Taevis-Kapalka@Taevis-Kapalka3 ай бұрын
    • @@Taevis-Kapalkaisn’t that a bit shortsighted for someone who is a coach, and representing a big brand like SnowboardAddiction?

      @woutvanhorenbeek2694@woutvanhorenbeek26943 ай бұрын
    • @@woutvanhorenbeek2694 don’t fret, If there is something important that will impact people’s riding it won’t be neglected ✌️

      @Taevis-Kapalka@Taevis-Kapalka3 ай бұрын
  • Can you guys make a new video on detuning nem board pleaseeee 🙏

    @leotigano2073@leotigano20734 ай бұрын
    • I don’t believe in defining snowboards. Spent a few laps carving your board and the edges will be ready. DTuning is mostly just used for street, or airbags:)

      @Taevis-Kapalka@Taevis-Kapalka4 ай бұрын
    • As Taevis said, Detuning isn't done too much, if you are really worried about edge catches, get an edge tool that lets you angle your edge at 88°, that's what a lot of the pros do. we do have a video made on this here: www.addictionplus.tv/courses/take/Tuning/lessons/44694339-how-to-de-tune-your-snowboard

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction4 ай бұрын
    • @@Taevis-Kapalkaawesome mate!! Thanks heaps for coming back to me!

      @leotigano2073@leotigano20734 ай бұрын
    • @@SnowboardAddictionunderstood guys! Will follow his advice but will also check your vid! Thanks again!

      @leotigano2073@leotigano20734 ай бұрын
  • what about japan grab? you can also catch out side of the bindings

    @johnny313re2@johnny313re22 ай бұрын
    • Nope, you go around the binding but your hand needs to come back to inside the bindings for it to count. Sometimes people let it slide on like a super corked 7, but that’s it.

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction2 ай бұрын
  • dont really care about the topic of this video i just love watching this guy snowboard

    @SEXYANDguesswhat@SEXYANDguesswhat4 ай бұрын
    • Thanks man!

      @Taevis-Kapalka@Taevis-Kapalka4 ай бұрын
    • @@Taevis-Kapalka no, thanks for having such an amazing attitude even though you are so skilled and stylish , you dont see that often. Im sure you would be a delight to hang out with!

      @SEXYANDguesswhat@SEXYANDguesswhat4 ай бұрын
    • @@SEXYANDguesswhatI appreciate that! 🙏🏻

      @Taevis-Kapalka@Taevis-Kapalka3 ай бұрын
  • What brand is your coat and pants

    @ShaquilleOatmea1429@ShaquilleOatmea14293 ай бұрын
    • Tolasmik from snowears

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction3 ай бұрын
  • After watching this I feel like if you give this guy any plank of wood, he'd still be able to land switch 5s on the pro line in the park on it :D

    @SimpleSouls@SimpleSouls3 ай бұрын
    • Damn you just spoiled our next video! ;)

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction3 ай бұрын
  • How does the team pro compare to the beast?

    @eedom69@eedom693 ай бұрын
    • Never tried the beast so we really aren’t qualified to say sadly.

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction3 ай бұрын
  • I need only ultrawide (30 cm waist) true twin or dir.twin snowboard. Nobody makes it, except Donek

    @weltrogg1768@weltrogg17684 ай бұрын
    • Donek makes great boards. Ive has my phoenix for 10 years it still rips.

      @anthonyb3940@anthonyb39404 ай бұрын
    • There is the freighter from Douk now.

      @eRnullbeeins@eRnullbeeins4 ай бұрын
    • That would definitely not go as well in the park haha, tho maybe we will need to test that theory out💪

      @Taevis-Kapalka@Taevis-Kapalka4 ай бұрын
  • I always ride with protective shorts to keep my cheeks safe :D

    @dragonfist@dragonfist4 ай бұрын
    • Good call!

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction4 ай бұрын
  • Nitro santoku review maybe?

    @koreykemper9245@koreykemper92454 ай бұрын
    • I’d try any of their boards at this point, I’ve been stoked!

      @Taevis-Kapalka@Taevis-Kapalka4 ай бұрын
  • Taevis has the juiciest kits in the game...hands down!

    @pinky882@pinky8822 ай бұрын
  • In my experience the advantages of an all mountain board are all true… until you ride switch in any significant amount. I really notice that all the tech that improves carves going regular are also degrading the craves going switch. You really notice it if you do full runs switch and not just 3-4 turns here and there. I may be an outlier, riding switch maybe 35-40% of the time. How about the reverse video? “You can ride twin in pow”

    @eimermusic@eimermusic3 ай бұрын
    • Taevis has been using Twins in Pow his whole life haha. Taevis did a bunch of switch park laps without any trouble, we give this board the switch riding seal of Approval :)

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction3 ай бұрын
  • I got a ride shadowban and an evil twin. Unless I'm being a park rat the whole day the shadowban is just so much more fun and versatile to rip around in any condition and even fun for a few park laps....Though the shadowban is a directional twin so it is a bit cheating lol.

    @pumpkin1escobar@pumpkin1escobar3 ай бұрын
    • Both excellent boards! :)

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction3 ай бұрын
  • Rome Party Mod wide does everything with style

    @coltish@coltish3 ай бұрын
  • Man, Nitro Team Pro is a Directional twin board

    @papasgormita@papasgormita3 ай бұрын
    • Very slightly, all boards have an extra inch on the noise nowadays. We talk about this in the video:)

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction3 ай бұрын
  • please what pants are those!!!??

    @jszymanski123@jszymanski1233 ай бұрын
    • it's the Tolasmik Collab with Snowears

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction3 ай бұрын
    • @@SnowboardAddiction thank you!!

      @jszymanski123@jszymanski1233 ай бұрын
  • The team pro still is a directional twin with a longer nose than tail

    @zanerclark@zanerclark2 ай бұрын
    • By 1 inch, we don’t count that

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction2 ай бұрын
  • We dont use flying v typish profile on highest level meanwhile Chase Blackwell never summer proto synthesis literally never summers version of flying v in pipe not that long ago chris corning in big air.... U should have said not we dont use u should have said that full camber or almost full camber is now most popular. Also congrats on sick 1080

    @dragonluxart7752@dragonluxart77524 ай бұрын
    • Also most if not all T Rice’s boards are C2X camber, which is the same idea as the flying V.

      @boleidi4936@boleidi49364 ай бұрын
    • Look at the best riders are doing. Do not fallow Chris cornings vibes, it’s the same as saying you should use a wide stance because Shaun white does. Just does not apply to the standard in snowboarding.

      @Taevis-Kapalka@Taevis-Kapalka4 ай бұрын
    • @@boleidi4936he doesn’t ride much besides pow so it’s much more flexible.

      @Taevis-Kapalka@Taevis-Kapalka4 ай бұрын
    • Well full camber has always been the most popular among pros and it's most likely going to stay that way too.

      @pjk-rips@pjk-rips4 ай бұрын
    • We back Taevis on this. If you want more power out of your snowboard, full Camber is the best choice. Watch any snowboard contest and you will see this to be the case:)

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction4 ай бұрын
  • Hey dude wear crash pants and you don't have to take the pain or at least much less of it 🙂

    @pjk-rips@pjk-rips4 ай бұрын
    • Crash pants actually do basically nothing at this kind of impact. I used to rock them but they would tear on slams like this, so then I’m just hurt and down cash haha They are better for when your learning and your impacts are small and targeted towards your tail bone.

      @Taevis-Kapalka@Taevis-Kapalka4 ай бұрын
    • 🤣

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction4 ай бұрын
    • @@Taevis-Kapalka Yeah taking the impact when fallin L/XL jumps would need few air mattresses or so. But still despite I've ridden since the 90's feeling pretty competent I never ride without pants. In the end they take significant amount of pain away even from harder slams. Probably have saved my tail from at least couple of fractures too. I figured since I don't notice them while riding why not wear them all the time.

      @pjk-rips@pjk-rips4 ай бұрын
    • @@pjk-ripsFor sure! Any way you can minimize injury you extend your season so I back them. Really good especially if learning to carve or rails haha

      @Taevis-Kapalka@Taevis-Kapalka3 ай бұрын
  • Pretzel counted

    @Powsimian@Powsimian2 ай бұрын
  • Really this video should be all about riding switch… the directional should ride just as good forward as the twin otherwise they’re really fucking up

    @Powsimian@Powsimian2 ай бұрын
    • Next time!

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction2 ай бұрын
  • Don’t grab method outside the bindings please

    @Powsimian@Powsimian2 ай бұрын
    • Nicolas Müller disagrees kzhead.info/sun/m7mMoNtlfmqhrIE/bejne.htmlsi=7l0w9QMPxh0cpa5u&t=150

      @malcatron@malcatron2 ай бұрын
    • Your tripping haha

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction2 ай бұрын
  • You ride whistler and never been on a directional board?? Get out of the pink…I mean park

    @kevinlizzo8031@kevinlizzo80312 ай бұрын
    • But Taevis loves the park..

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction2 ай бұрын
  • Get on a swallowtail on a pow day. Night and day difference.

    @th3oryO@th3oryO3 ай бұрын
    • Just need that deep powder to go with it!

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction3 ай бұрын
  • Team pro is not a true twin.

    @TheMortenar@TheMortenar3 ай бұрын
    • It’s so close no one would ever notice it isn’t, because taevis sure didn’t haha

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction3 ай бұрын
  • Twin board 4 ever. I hate directional boards. I’m sorry.

    @fredericoamigo@fredericoamigo2 ай бұрын
    • Both have their pro's and con's nothing rides powder like a directional!

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction2 ай бұрын
  • Dude you need to work on your carves. Your heel side carves are barely 30 degrees. I can get a higher angle on my son’s 130cm rocker board. You want a minimum of 50 degrees on both edges.

    @UnlicensedPharmaciszt@UnlicensedPharmaciszt3 ай бұрын
    • Sounds like we need to set-up a race;)

      @SnowboardAddiction@SnowboardAddiction3 ай бұрын
  • I ride in the midwest. Never giving up my twin.

    @user-oo9dj1qz3h@user-oo9dj1qz3h3 ай бұрын
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