China’s Slacker Youths: Why They Went From 'Lying Flat' To 'Let It Rot' | Insight | Full Episode

2024 ж. 18 Мам.
3 462 942 Рет қаралды

“Tang Ping” or Lying Flat, was a 2021 movement that rejected the work culture in China. Now, it has morphed into the more extreme “Bai Lan” or Let It Rot. What behind this new phenomenon?
Insight speaks to some Chinese youths who identify themselves as “Bai Lan”. They are opting out of climbing the economic ladder, choosing to put in the bare minimum at work and coasting along. What are the reasons for their despondency?
And will this youth movement affect China’s economic recovery, even as it faces headwinds from COVID lockdowns and a property debt crisis?
0:00 China's 'Lying flat' & 'Let it rot' trends
5:26 'Lying flat' vs 'let it rot': a worrying difference
9:03 Why I chose to 'let it rot': a Chinese youth
13:26 The rise of China and inequality
19:28 Anxieties of Chinese youth: Housing, healthcare, education
20:57 Gen Z vs Boomer: Differing attitudes to 'let it rot'
25:50 'Let it rot': a rejection of 996 culture?
32:34 What a 996 worker thinks of 'let it rot' culture
34:12 "We're not selfish": 'bai lan' youths
36:08 How China's tackling 'let it rot' culture
41:14 Should China be worried about 'let it rot' culture?
For greater INSIGHT into issues affecting Asia:
• Insight
===============
ABOUT THE SHOW: Insight investigates and analyses topical issues that impact Asia and the rest of the world.
==========================
#CNAInsider #CNAInsiderInvestigates #China #GenZ #Millennials #BaiLan
For more, SUBSCRIBE to CNA INSIDER
cna.asia/insideryoutubesub
Follow CNA INSIDER on:
Instagram: / cnainsider
Facebook: / cnainsider
Website: cna.asia/cnainsider

Пікірлер
  • Imagine being conditioned to think that a 40 hr work week with time for hobbies and relationships is "slacking". Personal happiness is a worthy goal to prioritise.

    @karenng9793@karenng9793 Жыл бұрын
    • Imagine doing the minimum to support your lifestyle, perhaps 20-30hr/wk, have a tiny bit of extra € to the side, be happy with your free time, and still being considered a slacker. Slacking from what? Just because some are stressing the f out of themselves doesn't mean everyone has to do the same. No ambition what so ever for the ultra materialistic lifestyle. Not just because it's repelling, but because it's actually close to unattainable.

      @Pajune@Pajune Жыл бұрын
    • @@Pajune Too right 👍

      @chrisdavie8163@chrisdavie8163 Жыл бұрын
    • Where I live the vast majority of people work 37.5 hours per day. And everyone has 5 weeks paid vacation + paid public holidays per year. I guess that means we are all "letting is rot".. ;) I live in Norway.

      @HelenEk7@HelenEk7 Жыл бұрын
    • @@HelenEk7 yes we work 37.5hrs a week here UK, we get 28 days paid holiday a year lol I'm rotting too 😉

      @CJ-nz8it@CJ-nz8it Жыл бұрын
    • The flip side of this is companies will go to great lengths NOT to hire people. Just pile more work on those who are already there.

      @arg888@arg888 Жыл бұрын
  • Imagine wanting a normal life and not being consumed by your work and be called a slacker for that.

    @ElhuSCIENCE@ElhuSCIENCE Жыл бұрын
    • @Ed Smith I'm 58 and would be considered a "slacker", yes I work and pay my bills, but after that, my time is my time ....

      @Elmaestrodemusica@Elmaestrodemusica Жыл бұрын
    • @Ed Smith This is not purely an insult, this is an attempt to squeeze more out of you since you already gave so generously. Notice the generations before you lived in a world with less people, more natural endowment, less complex systems and more work that was actually done by human labor percentage wise. The configuration of those parameters changes constantly, those cutely named generations always have to deal with new circumstances, and they aren't becoming simpler.

      @kti5682@kti5682 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Elmaestrodemusica "my time is my time" - As it should be...

      @mruncletheredge@mruncletheredge Жыл бұрын
    • They try to shame guilt people to work hard to keep the system running

      @susan7374@susan7374 Жыл бұрын
    • Capitalism and competitive human nature

      @ayoubzahiri1918@ayoubzahiri1918 Жыл бұрын
  • they are NOT "unmotivated!". They are educated enough to see that the game is rigged, the numbers don't add up, the promise of working hard and getting ahead is false, and that their govt has screwed them to hold on to power. They are not lazy. They are screwed and their situation looks hopeless--and they see it.

    @ChristopherCricketWallace@ChristopherCricketWallace Жыл бұрын
    • Exactly! And they are choosing to live their live at a slower pace to focus on their own health and needs rather than working themselves to the bone without any real reward. So they're not unmotivated, they simply have no reason to work hard.

      @eev14@eev14 Жыл бұрын
    • This is not unique to China. This generation has the same feeling in every country. It only seems new to China, because it is not consistent with their historical cultural norms. Until now, prior generations did not have the informational power of the cell phone in their hand. Thus, older generations were completely ignorant and situationally unaware of their ability to exercise independent thinking.

      @RussSchoonmaker@RussSchoonmaker Жыл бұрын
    • yeah... from high we are just not guided well enough to build a career path.. and we just study and hope that things fall in place... there is no legitimate guidance platform or website or app to make informed decisions in our career path based on industry requirements.. education institutions for average people are lagging behind industry requirements and career guidance based on industry situation is not available as mandatory.. so average graduate can only select something after they graduate and not everyone is lucky.. so every industry should have a contribution points system to take exam to reach higher ladder to give motivation to the average person.. because a country may generally have 60-70 percent average people among graduates.

      @vinaykumar-dn5ep@vinaykumar-dn5ep Жыл бұрын
    • Mostly true. The movers and shakers brainwash the underclass with impossible dreams to keep the economic wheel turning to benefit mostly the one-percenters. Some have said university is a scam. Lol...

      @DWTaipei@DWTaipei Жыл бұрын
    • u havent heard of Quiet Quitting? its the same thing. Its not entirely a new concept

      @jonathanchia9167@jonathanchia9167 Жыл бұрын
  • 100% full support as a Millennial in the west, this is happening all over the world. We are not slaves.

    @sleepings4596@sleepings45966 ай бұрын
    • Look up the first line of our Chinese national anthem. "Arise, those who do not want to be slaves." How ironic.

      @samuelcheung4799@samuelcheung47994 ай бұрын
    • @@samuelcheung4799 the gov is no more communism more,at least not that communism society as last century 1960s

      @yuluoxianjun@yuluoxianjun2 ай бұрын
    • Slaves when used for what?

      @bunk95@bunk952 ай бұрын
    • ​@@yuluoxianjun Yeah a country being run by a COMMUNIST party without fair elections sounds like a free democracy lol. Even 'democracies' in the west are becoming less free every year that passes.

      @steazymccheesy2649@steazymccheesy26492 ай бұрын
  • This is happening in other countries as well. The younger generation is learning that quality of life is better than trying to work yourself to death for a company that doesn’t care about you at all. Good for them!

    @onebridge7231@onebridge7231 Жыл бұрын
    • The next generations won't even entertain the idea of working and to be honest, good for them.

      @juanadearco6356@juanadearco6356 Жыл бұрын
    • quality of life comes from working hard you are a parasite on those who do work hard

      @theloniuspunk383@theloniuspunk383 Жыл бұрын
    • I think the fact people are not having children is impacting this as well. Like, why work myself to death? When I only have myself. Having kids makes it hard to do this.

      @agillespie5853@agillespie5853 Жыл бұрын
    • @@agillespie5853 why have kids if you can't afford to fund them OR you're working yourself to death and don't get much time to be happy with your children as they're growing up. Only the government benefits from this: parents work like hell, while their children learn like hell so they could start to work like hell so the economy keeps rising for no other reason than filling dictators' bank accounts.

      @anthonymcrooster3703@anthonymcrooster3703 Жыл бұрын
    • @@anthonymcrooster3703 Exactly. And with efvferything going to hell, it seems cruel at this point.

      @agillespie5853@agillespie5853 Жыл бұрын
  • This is what happens when you realise that working hard and going above and beyond for your employer benefits the employer and not the employee. Kudos to the Chinese millennials for pushing back.

    @zendude123@zendude123 Жыл бұрын
    • Yeap. Work to benefit the employer pocket and the economy only

      @user-xh4zd6bf9m@user-xh4zd6bf9m Жыл бұрын
    • Why don't you get off your lazy butt and start a company, then share all of your profits with the employees. Why should you keep all, or most, of the profits, right? And when you encounter some of these Let It Rot employees like yourself, then increase their salaries even though they contribute nothing. Because you started your business not to improve your lot, but theirs ...

      @demef758@demef758 Жыл бұрын
    • same with americans, young ones are doing same, rebelling against the rich and corporations, as they push their slave wages onto the people. Only older conservatives tend to "obey" the system, as in any country.

      @koilamaoh4238@koilamaoh4238 Жыл бұрын
    • For thoughtful people, selling insurance is worse than death.

      @anypercentdeathless@anypercentdeathless Жыл бұрын
    • From the West unto the East men must realize the revelation in that revolution must premeate itself so that this earth can heal and not be used solely for profit.

      @the-seed-sower761@the-seed-sower761 Жыл бұрын
  • I finally gained the courage to say to my father, "I do not have the desire to outdo the 6 billion other people on this planet". At the age of 10 I started growing white hairs. I am proud of my generation for breaking this ridiculous cycle of soul crushing pressure and despair. Your goal in life should be to feel joy and peace

    @kittenmittens4387@kittenmittens4387 Жыл бұрын
    • I've never thought about it like the way you phrased it. I've always been feeling guilt of underachieving and unsatisfied with my life. And you made me realise that I actually have to outdo 6 billion other people if I won't learn to appreciate what I already have.

      @menot8325@menot8325 Жыл бұрын
    • Proud of you for realizing it's not even feasible. There's too many folks saying they want to be the best *insert career* and not enough folks wanting to the best verison of themselves. There's only one you, thank you for reminding me 💯

      @samson4965@samson4965 Жыл бұрын
    • American propaganda.. you can’t deceive Anyone now unless your same old stupid ignorant Americans

      @4Uberman@4Uberman Жыл бұрын
    • True but in medical professions or fire fighters you do need people to want to go above and beyond. We do need some people willing to be unselfish to keep our countries running and safe. I worked as a nurse for 30 years and routinely worked over 55 hours per week, it is not as simple as saying get more staff either as I worked in theater and you cannot just down tools and leave the patient to fend for themselves and if you get several emergencies come in at once then there is simply not enough staff to just take over from you. You are required to go the extra mile and you do not get rewarded for it via wages. You do get a reward from knowing that you are making a difference and helping another person so I hope that there is always people willing to put others before themselves.

      @murdershe......7378@murdershe......7378 Жыл бұрын
    • I'm afraid we are just slaves in the eyes of government and corporations. They want us to work hard to make them millions and then die early when we are surplus to requirements so they don't have to pay pensions.

      @minnie5301@minnie5301 Жыл бұрын
  • The only way to win is to not play. They're not lazy. They're just not buying the lie and false promises.

    @ChristopherCricketWallace@ChristopherCricketWallace Жыл бұрын
    • Actually, they’re just lazy. And that’s the problem

      @ephTheClone@ephTheClone Жыл бұрын
    • @@ephTheClone lol, dont u see what social implications "zero covid" has over the people and society they are living in... Im sorry, but maybe sm1 jizzed in your eyes for being so blind.

      @arjay2519@arjay2519 Жыл бұрын
    • @@arjay2519 atleast it didn’t get in my brain like it did yours…🥴

      @ephTheClone@ephTheClone Жыл бұрын
    • @@ephTheClone yeah they’re lazy to work a 9 to 5 for 6 days a week just to barely survive

      @ryanlee2138@ryanlee2138 Жыл бұрын
    • @@ryanlee2138 I work 24/7 every single day and only get 3 hours of sleep every 24 hours. In fact was about to sleep before I got the notification of this comment. Im not complaining.

      @ephTheClone@ephTheClone Жыл бұрын
  • This isn't called slacking when you're still doing the work you're asked but refuse to go beyond. There is nothing wrong with wanting to have a good work-life balance

    @Its_a_me_WSA@Its_a_me_WSA Жыл бұрын
    • I'd agree, but some people go the other way. They omit certain tasks they've got to do to avoid the work, because they can get away with it. An example is that we have to wipe the vending machines down (glass and anywhere the customers touch) daily, but my co-worker hasn't done it in over two years of working the same job I just started working at. Because no one checks. Management is also too busy slacking to care about such minor details. My job is already basically nothing for 5 hours of an 8 hour shift and yet by not doing all the small things like that, it gets even easier. Seriously it's like 1 hour of work for my colleague because he's been slowly whittling away his list of responsibilities to the bare minimum of what the manager pays attention to. I'll probably be like that too in a few months. But right now I'm new. I need to complete every task I get, even if it's not checked- once I'm in the company properly and trained up in everything, I'll be able to do the same thing he did. I'm someone who's been fucked over so much in life by 'doing the right thing' and watching other people get away with stuff that at this point, I'm basically only caring about myself. No point putting in extra work if there's no requirement for it. As for the vending machine, pretty sure SOMEONE is wiping it down, I just don't know who. Cleaning staff is my bet. But it might also be the guy who comes to change the stuff out of the machines once every two weeks.

      @TheK-PopInPublicAuthority@TheK-PopInPublicAuthority Жыл бұрын
    • @@TheK-PopInPublicAuthority well that's natural. Generally most productive workers are given more and more work without additional compensation.

      @012jason@012jason Жыл бұрын
    • We're talking about Chinese people, that's already slacking to them.

      @athenstar10@athenstar10 Жыл бұрын
    • what is 'beyond' varies. something one considered beyond maybe within the range of normal efforts for another. it also depends on how you measure 'beyond.' do you mean deliverables, time, or less error rates? sometimes you feel you are going beyond may simply because you need more experience or sharper skill. overall the employer should set their standards clear, e.g. measured by efficiency, if the job takes an average person 2 days to complete, and you can do it in 1 day, then you are a high performer, or if you need 3 days, you may need to catch up in some area. In this case, you do whatever you are comfortable with and get paid accordingly, there is nothing beyond. it's actually a red flag if your employer told you they expect you to go beyond, that means they are not sure what needs to be done and what skill set and experience they need, they are basically saying: it's a mess here and we want you to clean the sh|t. You, on the other side of the table, should make sure you have your sh|t figured out and your employer has theirs figured out as well. the problem is, not many people have their sh|t figured out.

      @ningjing1113@ningjing1113 Жыл бұрын
    • Not a new phenomenon about Minimalist workers…..they’re everywhere 😂clock milkers

      @thuandao4243@thuandao4243 Жыл бұрын
  • Good for them. I’m Japanese in my late 30s and I relate to these kids. Having watched my mother who sacrificed her life on work and being a single mom, with sleepless nights and working herself to exhaustion only to get fired and replaced by younger workers left a bitter taste in my mouth. My father on the other hand made a lot of money helping multimillion dollar companies get even richer.. my upbringing made me see the world for what it is. I’ve been called a slacker questioned why I’m “unmotivated” but you only live once. I don’t want to spend my life in an office all day everyday and become a slave to a toxic society. I moved to the country and working on going totally off the grid, collecting rain water solar for energy growing my own vegetables etc. Everyday I appreciate the beauty of nature spending time with my loved ones (my cats are especially enjoying it) I have time to enjoy my hobbies, and mostly enjoy the non stress life. I’m glad to see younger generations value the quality of life, and hoping that one day when I master my bai lan style living I can teach the youth to do the same :)

    @docbrown3139@docbrown3139 Жыл бұрын
    • You have very good english. What was the hardest part of moving to the country and going off grid?

      @matthewbadger8685@matthewbadger8685 Жыл бұрын
    • That sounds very nice. You should take relevant tech with you. Research and tech arnt inherently evil. For example, you could figure out a way to make hyrdoponic piping pump water using air pressure. Thats a high tech solution that doesn't hurt anyway. Its the BS you need to leave behind. Its not inextricably intertwined with tech.

      @Elemblue2@Elemblue2 Жыл бұрын
    • My cats are enjoying off grid lifestyle too ! - a 27 year old in southern California traveling around in a RV w/ his gf . Japanese country is beautiful ! I would buy a van & travel around if i could .

      @holdbackurtears8829@holdbackurtears8829 Жыл бұрын
    • I became a farmer 2 years ago and I've never been happier. The work could be difficult sure but I'm my own boss and I actually get paid according to how hard I work. Mainly I have been working whenever i want, I smoke weed all day, I sleep in until whenever, I hang out with my friends whenever I want, also after harvest if things go well I could have 6 months of free time. I can NEVER go back to 9-5. Thinking about that makes me want to kill myself.

      @justcallmpeter@justcallmpeter Жыл бұрын
    • I think it's just a phenomenon with the younger generations. Your leaders need to get together and figure something out or thier workforce and population will reduce. Maybe introduce more incentives who knows

      @DnVFMVs@DnVFMVs Жыл бұрын
  • Bai Lan is minimalism instead of consumption. It’s annoying people who can’t sell, sell, sell and drive overconsumption. Good job young people.

    @phoebusapollo4677@phoebusapollo4677 Жыл бұрын
  • Don't let anyone brainwash you into thinking that doing your job means you're slacking and unmotivated. You're doing the job you're getting paid for. If they want you to give them 120% then maybe they should pay 20% more.

    @rubyrose49@rubyrose499 ай бұрын
    • Yup told my boss I only take easy clients. Since I get a cut for every client I see. For my percentage, I will only take easy clients. Want me to take difficult clients? I take 95%. How hard I have to work my brain is commiserate to my compensation. Don't like it? I am happy to leave lol. Still works there.

      @wsrtwetr@wsrtwetr7 ай бұрын
    • I will give my 20%, pay me 20% and I am good to go. 👍🏻

      @VirendraBG@VirendraBG7 ай бұрын
    • Have you really watched the video? They are definitely NOT doing the job they are paid for.

      @irmar@irmar6 ай бұрын
    • Welp I couldn't do that as my contract stated no overtime benefits, had no choice but to accept the job or else still desperate looking for another job

      @urip_zukoharjo@urip_zukoharjo5 ай бұрын
    • @@VirendraBG better give me 200% if u want 120% though.. id rather give 60% and just get normal salary. Need some % to also live.

      @larsvegas1505@larsvegas15054 ай бұрын
  • This is basically happening everywhere. This generation see's corporate greed for what it is. Things are going to change drastically.

    @xenagirl2037@xenagirl2037 Жыл бұрын
    • What are your thoughts on the great reset?

      @autonomyseeker6082@autonomyseeker6082 Жыл бұрын
    • Maybe except Japan & Korea... i state this based on the items i read & watch ...correct me if i’m wrong...

      @terataibiru4997@terataibiru4997 Жыл бұрын
    • @@terataibiru4997 This is only happening in places other than the West (mostly). It’s just as bad ,or even worse in Korea. Japan is a tiny bit better

      @sherry2452@sherry2452 Жыл бұрын
    • I've seen so many Chinese people online joking about "let's work even harder, so our boss can get a bigger house and fancier car!" We work ourselves to the bones just to make our employers and upper management richer and richer, while we can barely feed ourselves and keep a roof over our heads. This is exploitation, plain and simple.

      @HanQ28@HanQ28 Жыл бұрын
    • @@sherry2452 wdym it’s not happening in the west? I’m sure it’s worse in America than it is in China.

      @timefliesaway999@timefliesaway999 Жыл бұрын
  • A workmate came to work slightly before 8am. Started sweating, we took him to a hospital 10mins away by 1pm he had died. He had complianed of pains but kept off going to hospital cause of the demanding work schedule. But also we were not given health insurance and given the fact thay he was prepping for his wedding he opted out of going to hospital. He died 10 days away from his wedding.

    @who_me4321@who_me4321 Жыл бұрын
    • im so sorry for your loss

      @goldenhourss@goldenhourss Жыл бұрын
    • That's sad. My condolences.

      @steelrose7342@steelrose7342 Жыл бұрын
    • At least he escaped marriage !! 👍👍👍

      @ronaldinojikri5682@ronaldinojikri5682 Жыл бұрын
    • Opted out to go to hospital for preping wedding is not a good idea. There are responsibilities in a marriage. A good health is one of the thing that helps you to take care of your love one.

      @cinpeace353@cinpeace353 Жыл бұрын
    • This has really inspired me to go for my medical check up tomorrow

      @billcipher2893@billcipher2893 Жыл бұрын
  • This is a world wide phenomenon…people all over the world see no benefits to spending outrageous amounts of money to obtain a university degree, with no guarantee you will even find a job, then working a 9-5 with additional overtime while taking care of kids and maintaining a home and still not being able to cover all the bills at the end of each month or afford decent food….this is the reality for many countries including my own (South Africa)…we are working the same amount of time our parents did maybe even slightly more and we cannot afford the basic necessities…something is very wrong with the world

    @babymoon7624@babymoon7624 Жыл бұрын
    • Hello fellow Saffa :)

      @Estorium@Estorium Жыл бұрын
    • because in the time of our parents' generations, there were less people in the world. Less people, less competition, higher salary, less cost of living.

      @AnhNguyen-lq5qo@AnhNguyen-lq5qo Жыл бұрын
    • It’s the 1% richest get all the cake. We are all their “chive” to be harvested by them. So the chives now realize it and refuse to play their games no more.

      @joincoffee9383@joincoffee9383 Жыл бұрын
    • This is so true .

      @lela_x@lela_x Жыл бұрын
    • Social media has enabled people with an independent mind to come to the realization that they will not achieve lasting enjoyment or self fulfillment as long as they continue making money for someone else. My advice to them is, to encourage their children to work for themselves… to become entrepreneurs.

      @RussSchoonmaker@RussSchoonmaker Жыл бұрын
  • My parents told me this: “Your generation is not lazy, you guys work as hard if not harder than we did during our time yet you earn just as much. The problem is that, you’re underpaid because salaries have stagnated while the price of housing and basic commodities keep rising. That’s simply the sad reality.”

    @workhardforit@workhardforit Жыл бұрын
    • Facts also we don’t gaf about anything. Like effort means nothing if I’m getting paid a BS wage that’s not even help pay off my student debts.

      @Chillikilli@Chillikilli Жыл бұрын
    • Doesn't have to be this way. ✌️

      @stephss@stephss Жыл бұрын
    • @@Chillikilli you student loan is not worth paying off. Hell you cannot even write a understandable sentence. You need to go back to grade school and start over. It is amazing that you are that illiterate. That means that you have no education.

      @JohnDavis-yz9nq@JohnDavis-yz9nq Жыл бұрын
    • More underpaid back then, i think, no insuraces, no worker protection etc

      @SkyActives@SkyActives Жыл бұрын
    • Awesome parents!!!!😊❤

      @marylee2732@marylee2732 Жыл бұрын
  • As a Gen X who spent the first 25 years of my working life working myself to exhaustion day in day out I encourage younger generations not to make the same mistake.

    @peterwarner553@peterwarner553 Жыл бұрын
    • If you did (and didn't do anything illegal) Enjoy yourself man, at least someone gets to.

      @justsomeguywithlasereyes9920@justsomeguywithlasereyes9920 Жыл бұрын
    • lying flat made more sense

      @eduardochavacano@eduardochavacano Жыл бұрын
    • Big companies (that are not yet overrun with corporate politics) are good places for younger employees to get experience at a “tier 1.” However, at some point you’re not learning a lot anymore and you see a better opportunity where you fly/fry based on YOUR efforts. So if you’re motivated AND actually WELL-SKILLED, you become an entrepreneur where you also get risk/reward AND have control your TIME. Unfortunately, govt systems have failed so gravely and so often that they haven’t “worked” for younger workers, despite their big efforts. So govts promise more and more…take more control… yet don’t deliver prosperity. And in the end, whether you worked hard or not, the results are not wildly different for many. “So why bother?” is a common answer all over the world.

      @baomao7243@baomao7243 Жыл бұрын
    • Same. Worked many years for a company, I worked hard and long hours but my employer didn’t appreciate me.

      @iseeflowers@iseeflowers Жыл бұрын
    • @@punjabiman6951 🤣🤣🤣

      @peterwarner553@peterwarner553 Жыл бұрын
  • one of the things ive learned working in a company is that no matter what i do i am never good enough even though i always excel compare to my colleagues and make little no to mistakes and they do not see what i have contributed. when burnout got me, my performance declined too and instead of help i was gaslighted. please dont overwork yourselves just to please your company and bosses, no matter what you do, you are just a number to them. so sacrificing your sanity is never worth it. it's sad that we are only making them richer while we employees suffer and no pay raise at all.

    @mesunekonyan@mesunekonyan Жыл бұрын
    • They dont care if you die or live they care about performance.

      @atulgokuyamaha7@atulgokuyamaha7 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@atulgokuyamaha7 The sin of greed/apathy

      @JohnGrandline@JohnGrandline4 ай бұрын
  • This trend is so relatable and I've embraced it for a number of years now. 42yo career millennial, I went above and beyond only to be passed over for a promotion by someone newer who had a fraction of the responsibility and did poor quality work. After that it was like an epiphany, "why even bother?" Now I do the bare minimum at an acceptable level and don't care what anyone on my team or at my company thinks of my reputation. Rather than focus on trying to climb the ladder I now focus on myself and well-being and the improved quality of life that comes with it.

    @hazmat151@hazmat1514 ай бұрын
  • I've heard of quiet quitting but "letting it rot" captures it better. I'm with the Chinese youth on this. We only get one life. Spend it wisely. Spend it with the people you love. Spend it doing the things you love.

    @tender0828@tender0828 Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, and if you burden everyone around you in the process no big deal, right? Because me me me me me.

      @hnlpharmd@hnlpharmd Жыл бұрын
    • the chinese youth is not doing this, and they were not lying flat. All this is propaganda.They want YOU to do this. Wake up.

      @backintimealwyn5736@backintimealwyn5736 Жыл бұрын
    • Society having this attitude towards young people is exactly what started this. The young peoples burden increased and the reward shrunk. Now everyone is going crazy looking for any excuse as to this laziness, but its basic labour/time/money economics, not a new thing at all

      @henryholsten8802@henryholsten8802 Жыл бұрын
    • @rahma nah. don't bother t changing his mind. let him rot. 😉

      @zennyzenzen@zennyzenzen Жыл бұрын
    • Who's going to be the garbage man?

      @cosmicharlie1970@cosmicharlie1970 Жыл бұрын
  • Let me remind everyone. This "Slacker" or "Laying flat" or "Let it Rot" attitude is basically just doing your job. Thats all nothing more to it. The fact that Bosses/CEOs and Companies push employees to go above and beyond with no guaranteed incentives as a norm but label them otherwise if they don't do so is absolutely disgusting. It has already been proven that climbing the corporate ladder by working hard is a myth. You have absolutely no control of whether u get rewarded for hardwork. Most of the time you don't. So just do what you are paid to do within the working hours and enjoy life as much as possible.

    @frostymourne867@frostymourne867 Жыл бұрын
    • THANK YOU YOU SAID IT

      @pinkmoonrabbit2072@pinkmoonrabbit2072 Жыл бұрын
    • And often people who don’t work hard get promoted while workaholics are overseen or the company needs them to stay on the job😂 maybe they make a more self confidence impression since they deal with fewer stress 😅😅

      @sns4748@sns4748 Жыл бұрын
    • I agree.. but the fact people don't see its a myth is THEIR OWN FAULT. Our ancesestors worked every single hour they were awake, no matter what. Or they would DIE. How in the world can ANYONE think this is okay? It is lazy, embarrassing, sickening and pathetic. OHH SORRYY!! Want a fing COOKIE for showing up to work today for 8 hours? Want a hug because you got off your a ss and put some sweat and tears into your daily life? Want a golden star sticker? Fing disgraceful! GROW UP LO SERS! REMEMBER: China has a ONE CHILD (preferably a male) policy PER FAMILY! So you goofs were predetermined to have LIFE! That in and of itself is absoutely insane, and your all spitting in the face of "God" or "Your Leader" or whoever let you lazy fools actually be born, so disgusting.

      @stephcollins728@stephcollins728 Жыл бұрын
    • Asian work culture is honestly crazy, not just china but one of the notorious is. Japan also face even harder problem but most people there literal statistics show most people are 40 and above so nothing gonna change for like 20-30 years more i guess. I know it's a meme but imagine your "asian" stereotypical person actually have a country and try to compete with each other. Yeah good luck then.

      @sdedy379@sdedy379 Жыл бұрын
    • True. If you just rely on work to climb up the ladder, you will only become a slave forever. You want to climb up, it would be more beneficial if you learn how to suck up to your boss. I saw how people who are good in sucking up climb up fast even if their work is so-so. So you want to climb up, you better learn to throw away your dignity and learn how to sweet talk, how to please your boss in all ways and all degrees. That is a more beneficial skill than all the subjects you've learnt at university. Forget about the quality of your work. It's useless...

      @dewirusli987@dewirusli987 Жыл бұрын
  • I will never forget the story I heard of the Chinese women who lived in the countryside; she went to school and got excellent test scores…and someone in the CCP, whose child had mediocre scores, stole the smart woman’s identity and test scores and gave them to their mediocre child who then _got_ into college and _got_ the good job and the privileged life. They left the smart woman in the country to keep farming and being poor. And later, when they found out what happened, she asked if she could go to college since she’d scored high enough…they told her NO.

    @attitudeproblem6462@attitudeproblem6462 Жыл бұрын
    • holy crap - do you remember any names or have any sauce for this? i’d like to read up on it if possible!

      @kowrow@kowrow Жыл бұрын
    • @@kowrow It was in one of these same documentaries about inequality in China. She was mentioned in a segment. Can’t remember which one, sorry😞

      @attitudeproblem6462@attitudeproblem6462 Жыл бұрын
    • A common story that has probably happened to millions of people at this point, it’s a result of corruption and inequality. Friends in China told me similar ones when I lived there in 2006, they’re a dime a dozen.

      @NickHchaos@NickHchaos Жыл бұрын
    • that's what happens when most of them look alike

      @malithanura7649@malithanura7649 Жыл бұрын
    • School:Oh the bastards, how could they do this to you this is so unfair Woman: I know. Can I come in now? School: No

      @soldatintelectual6544@soldatintelectual6544 Жыл бұрын
  • There's a friend i had back in university, she used to ignore her hunger and not feeling well all the time until one day on the particular evening, pouring rain. Just to complete her thesis for graduation she's ignoring her hunger and sick body to go to the nearest printing kiosk(many people in Indonesia don't have printer) and print her thesis. She doesn't have an umbrella or raincoat to be used so she braced herself to be drenched by rain. After coming back from the printing kiosk she's straight up going to bed and sleep. Morning came and when one of her dorm friends knocked on her door to wake her up for breakfast(around 6.00 am)she was not answered. She thought to herself "Maybe she's still sleeping" so she's going to knock again before she went to the campus. Unfortunately for her when she came back to knock she's still sleeping, infuriated by this she went to mother superior to borrow the master key. With the master key in hand, she opened the door and found her friend still drenched by yesterday rain died. The cause of death is overworked.

    @wetrisolesse619@wetrisolesse6197 ай бұрын
    • That’s so sad :(

      @larko2717@larko271712 күн бұрын
  • As a GenX-er whose health was wrecked by overwork and a toxic work environment, I am glad that younger people have figured out a healthier way at an earlier stage. I've cut my costs and live on a mountain surrounded by beauty now and don't work nearly as much. The compensation was never worth the effort I put into it, and employers don't have any loyalty to employees anymore. I think globally there's been a cultural shift toward a different understanding of what success looks like. Now it's more self-care and family/social time balancing out the labor time. And that's a good thing.

    @notashroom@notashroom Жыл бұрын
    • so the mountain has internet signal ?

      @hotmintchoco@hotmintchoco Жыл бұрын
    • @@hotmintchoco we have here

      @marieleliciafabruada8655@marieleliciafabruada8655 Жыл бұрын
    • @@hotmintchoco yes?

      @yeetusdeleetus4697@yeetusdeleetus4697 Жыл бұрын
    • @@hotmintchoco are you dumb????

      @LoiLe-kr4mo@LoiLe-kr4mo Жыл бұрын
    • i work but my mindset is, u can fire me anytime you want haha i dont care

      @smokegames1179@smokegames1179 Жыл бұрын
  • I came into this video wondering about this horrible, catastrophic "let it rot" phenomenon, but they actually seem pretty reasonable. They're not mooching off their parents or the government, they do their job and nothing more, then enjoy their life in their spare time. How is this weird? It's the 996 advocates who seem downright baffling to me. For people with their own business I understand, but for employees?

    @kvnrthr1589@kvnrthr1589 Жыл бұрын
    • find it crazy the company expect the employee to work 9am - 9pm, 6 days a week

      @hongjess5600@hongjess5600 Жыл бұрын
    • @@hongjess5600 hmmm eat , sleep , work , work , work ............

      @sdqsdq6274@sdqsdq6274 Жыл бұрын
    • Exactly, I guess I will try to do the best I can, but everything else I do is the same as them. If anything, I work less then they do…

      @TheAkumaChan@TheAkumaChan Жыл бұрын
    • I can kind of sympathise with the 996. In my job after graduating from my masters when I was around 25, I was doing about 50-65 hrs a week for a start up. I had a bit of the same mindset as that insurance agent. I wanted to develop skills and gain experience as fast as possible, so I did about 5 or 6 roles in the company, given that the company only had 8 employees including the CEO, it was almost a necessity if we wanted to survive. And considering the company ultimately did do quite well, I felt that I did my part in it. But eventually when I had exhausted the possibilities I left. And almost 20 years later, while I wouldn't say I'm a let it rot/lie flat type of person, I definitely wouldn't go way out of my way to go the extra mile, I do enough to justify my fairly decent salary, my annual bonus and that's about it.

      @AvoidTheCadaver@AvoidTheCadaver Жыл бұрын
    • @@hongjess5600 after joining the WTO china was supposed to adopt a 40 hour work week with at least 2 days off per week. This is to promote fair competition between the labour markets of different countries within the WTO. However China doesn't like to play fair, and allowed 996 to keep chinese labour more productive. Capitalists didn't mind because it meant higher profits.

      @sebastian192@sebastian192 Жыл бұрын
  • I love this - people looking after their mental and physical wellbeing and ignoring societal pressures! I'm in the UK and in a similar boat... I've always been a very hard worker - gifted and talented list, top of my class, full marks in multiple A-level exams etc ...and I have decided to opt out of the ladder climbing culture. Did a few years in customer service jobs before coming to university and eventually realised I was a fool for trying to do my best all the time when most people, especially the ones who got promoted and given the best shifts, did the bare minimum. Now I'm in university for something I've wanted to do for over a decade and the pressure that I put on myself is so great that it has become incredibly difficult to get myself to do any work at all. I've burnt myself out. Frustratingly, I know that the prestigious career that I wanted for so long and the very long hours that accompany it will not allow me to have the work-life balance that is essential for my wellbeing. So I've decided that it is best for me to forget my dream and now finish my degree with my version of 'bare minimum' for the sake of my sanity. My hope now is to run my own small business and live a somewhat modest life, earning as much as possible with as few hours as possible, allowing me to actually live and enjoy my life and raise my future children properly. I would much rather be happy and healthy than be exhausted, with my name in lights.

    @sophiehaywood6762@sophiehaywood67626 ай бұрын
  • We only ever speak of the things employees do wrong in the workplace but never speak of the lengths that companies go to in order to underpay and trick their employees into being loyal to them.

    @azurescenss@azurescenss9 ай бұрын
    • Exactly ! There is vertical personal economic mobility anymore. 😑

      @davidbolha@davidbolha9 ай бұрын
  • Honestly, this has been going on for many generations. Anyone over 50 will take the same 'Let it rot' attitude. They're usually in senior managerial positions, do the minimal required that they can't defer to those underneath them, and take all the credit when things go well or find someone to fire when things don't. People are just mad the younger generation is now doing it before their time.

    @nova8585@nova8585 Жыл бұрын
    • Exactly

      @otakumonkey@otakumonkey Жыл бұрын
    • And for those who argue with this idea, we already have the tech for robots to take over the jobs

      @hallooos7585@hallooos7585 Жыл бұрын
    • We've just become disillusioned at an early age.

      @TheDevilslayer101@TheDevilslayer101 Жыл бұрын
    • Bro the amount of useless middle mgmt bs sales people.

      @prime_comando@prime_comando Жыл бұрын
    • Agree. 1000%

      @titanhapsa996@titanhapsa996 Жыл бұрын
  • This kind of movement is not unique to Chinese youths - rising in trends like 'I don't dream of labour' and 'Quiet Quitting' also has similar sentiment of basically only doing what is the minimum requirement for the sake of your sanity and happiness. I don't think it should be dismissed as a "few lazy youths", but as a call to examine overall work culture including how we compensate workers for their time.

    @vtheory7531@vtheory7531 Жыл бұрын
    • Well said! We see the corruption.. and it comes from the top down. It starts with the CCP, moves down into businesses with Corruption, undermining EVERYTHING. F them, they don't deserve good people, so we will undermine them and do DAMAGE. Even minor damage takes a large toll as it flows down the chain

      @captnhuffy@captnhuffy Жыл бұрын
    • ? yea I don't understand I want to be leading and working

      @edyr@edyr Жыл бұрын
    • @@edyr If you work more than 8 hours a day and make only enough food for a day, what are you gonna do? And if you stop working, you will starve yourself. Yes, you are a slave.

      @ncrest4365@ncrest4365 Жыл бұрын
    • It is a natural consequence of lack of social mobility and the rigged game. They just dont want to burn away their lives for others who dont care about them.

      @kenim@kenim Жыл бұрын
    • doing the minimum is the cause of your mental illness

      @theloniuspunk383@theloniuspunk383 Жыл бұрын
  • This is my motto. Never stress yourself over work you’re only getting 0.001% of what the boss gets. People tell me I’m risking my job but I call it appreciating and prioritizing myself. I can always find another job the world doesn’t revolve around working.

    @aisabry@aisabry4 ай бұрын
  • I'm a trained game designer and I wish to share some knowledge with you all. When a player starts to realised that he cannot win a game, he rage quit. When a player is winning and knows that he is going to get even stronger as he wins, he kept playing until he can't go on physically or mentally. This is the same for these people in China, humans are humans, virtually or physically, their mindset and basic needs are the same. Once the balance is off, there are consequenses. Example: imagine joining a monopoly game when all the spaces had been bought. That’s the feeling. P.S But not everyone who doesn’t want to work super hard are feeling the dread from this. Some just want to live a life which is fulfilling and be contempt with little things. people who can enjoy the little things live a happy life. 😊

    @Saiyajin47621@Saiyajin47621 Жыл бұрын
    • Not to mention pay-to-win frustration which I would assimilate to corruption here... I know some people who had to pay quite a big amount the recruter to get a job or join the PCC to ensure a satisfying career.

      @mariebrouillon684@mariebrouillon684 Жыл бұрын
    • Profound insight

      @analyticalmindset@analyticalmindset Жыл бұрын
    • Corruption is worst in western countries, but they legalized it

      @kengng8797@kengng8797 Жыл бұрын
    • @Belcoth Tan Cheng Fai, Yes that is correct to some degree for if we have no purpose. The ones with purpose, don't care and continue to carry out their purpose. To add to it, it is interesting that as you make observations of your friends, everyone is doing what they are good at, and continue to do those things, such as playing their goto video game or going to shopping websites trying to find the best deals. Stopping what they are doing is going to be ultra hard, and they will resent that. What is kept deeply in our main memory vault, is our beliefs and opinions. These are important because they are set of biases, like a config file in a game. As you know, config files are convenient to change, but no one wants to change them. They tell us how to function fundamentally. And also, this config file is imprisoning us at the same time. This could be happen to our career too, so much of our time in life can be spent working on things we don't even believe in. The time we have on this world is short but should be enough, but not if we cannot even access our self control/will. We don't make much decisions, we just keep doing what we are biased to do based on this config file, and continue on like a machine disconnected from reality, like a software that keeps on running. Social media really amplified this 10x by distracting us and lowering the average individual's patience levels. Social media with its distractions in my opinion have effectively, decreased the abilities of many young ones to live out their dreams. All this and more is explained in a book called "Hooked" by Nir Eyal. Which tells you all of the information of what makes a product/app entertaining in an addictive long term way. Basically, it is hacking the human psychology.

      @superheaton@superheaton Жыл бұрын
    • I'm a gamedev myself although i'm not sure how it's relevant. But that attitude is just negative. You've only lost until you've lost and the game is over. Those people that resign as soon as things dont go their way just have a negative attitude. The most enjoyable experience in any game is to be in a position that everyone says is lost, but then to continue, turn things around, and eventually draw or even win the game. I've done that many times, and it feels amazing!

      @Maarten8867@Maarten8867 Жыл бұрын
  • i could relate to the "slackers" in this video. I personally worked hard in my initial years at a company and the reward is very little and, as one girl said in the video, disproportionate to the efforts and contributions I have exerted. Instead, I just got more work because either it may have seemed that i loved work (when in fact what i love is well-rewarded work) or they thought I'm desperate for success that i would slave myself away for a chance to reach the higher rungs of the corporate ladder. i admire people who actually sincerely love their jobs and are driven to reach success that they can sacrifice rest and recreation and could pander to their bosses' power-play. they do deserve the success that they will get (if they get it), but living simply, working just right, and having plenty of time to enjoy one's hobbies is not so bad. we're still working, paying taxes, spending money for circulation, not ruining any one's lives to get ahead of the competition, so it's far from being a worthless scum of the society that they're portraying us to be.

    @echo.echo08@echo.echo08 Жыл бұрын
    • In holland they love giving people temp jobs (max 3 yr) then giving them a premise ''u can get a contract if u do good work'' then make u work ur ass off for 3 years and then not give a contract ... if ur not college educated there are hardly no real contracts available.

      @larsvegas1505@larsvegas15054 ай бұрын
  • "Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country" is a good line, but it only works if your country actually IS doing something for you. Otherwise, it's just asking you TO be a victim in an abusive relationship. Leaders in many countries, East and West, have neglected and a used the youth in favor of their own profits for too long.

    @MrTheLuckyshot@MrTheLuckyshot Жыл бұрын
    • Bingo. My country needs to do a 180 and treat me with dignity, respect and fair pay in all things . You say society doesn't owe me anything? Fair point, then I'll do nothing for society in return . It's a 2 way street. So good luck doing whatever it is you wanna do, because I surely won't be participating in any meaningful way . Deuces .

      @TheSnackAttackingSnorlax@TheSnackAttackingSnorlax Жыл бұрын
    • My take on that line has always been to continue it with: "... because you, the people, are the country". People with societal status, money, power and titles -the elite- have always been viewed, and viewed themselves as the leaders and driving force of any given country. I'm not saying that's wrong when viewed from the perspective of other -elite's- perspective in other countries. They make deals with each other, trade a countries resources with each other and make legal changes to a countries system to govern its people in a beneficial way. However, to make all of this work the majority of a country must be below -the elite- and follow the elite. A country must have built systems that ensure it's difficult to act outside of desired norms, and that the majority of any given people also view the system as beneficial. This is because, in truth, it's everyone else who are the country. Not -the elite-. A person with power and money only has so because the people let them have so. Either by dropping of money for their merchandise, by receiving votes through elections, by being employed in their corporations, or any other means that allow them the opportunity to become influential. At it's true core, any person with power should be viewed in the tradition of the earliest chieftains of smaller communities, not in the traditions of the noble houses that followed them. A noble house viewed the ordinary people living within it's governance as part of their resources and/or governing responsibility. While an elected chieftain knows their part of the people, but have been deemed fitting to be their voice of common good. The difference being a vertical system, where one group is above the other, so the one below must succumb to those above; and a horizontal system, where everyone is equal but with different responsibilities, and each responsibility is viewed as equally important. Therfore, to me, "Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country", is a cautionary sentence ment for -the elite-, the once who hold power, wealth and status. On pair with the alleged Roman “Respice post te. Hominem te esse memento. Memento mori.” "Look behind you. Remember you're human. Remember you're mortal."

      @MsADaae@MsADaae Жыл бұрын
    • A lot of people repeat that line to advocate for rugged individualism but Kennedy also advocated for universal healthcare so I think your interpretation is a good one.

      @Tori_TLCR@Tori_TLCR Жыл бұрын
    • at the end you become a slave of your master. wake up

      @simontamchiyan2@simontamchiyan2 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Tori_TLCR - I had no idea Kennedy was for universal healthcare. Now that’s interesting and something I’d like to read about.

      @chicnoir29@chicnoir29 Жыл бұрын
  • It’s not slacking it’s coming to the realization that life is meant to be full and lived, it isn’t just about working for business who don’t care about you / are killing the earth. I hope one day we all commit to this, it would save the earth.

    @lepotatoes@lepotatoes Жыл бұрын
    • Correct... That too, Chinese 996 model??? I mean who are we kidding? 9-9 pm a day 6 days a week? Is this justified, even if restricted only to manufacturing? PLA is even more idiotic than CCP that they let this injustice happen to their own innocent Chinese citizens.

      @IblisTheSatan@IblisTheSatan Жыл бұрын
    • The system in China pick winners and losers The deck is stacked against them

      @raultiangson6295@raultiangson6295 Жыл бұрын
    • @D HJ I work on a farm. Every single day we do laborious work that you definitely couldn’t handle. I’m not lazy, I was just saying life is more than office buildings and showing up to work for a business that doesn’t even care about you. I’m sorry you’re so brainwashed, I’m sorry new perspectives aren’t easy for you.

      @lepotatoes@lepotatoes Жыл бұрын
    • @D HJ what are you talking about I AM the farm owner. I don’t know why you’re trying to argue with me when my point was life is meant to be enjoyed and lived instead of constant work? This is the last reply I’ll have because there’s no point in talking to someone this stubborn. Also, ratio. 🫶🏼

      @lepotatoes@lepotatoes Жыл бұрын
    • @D HJ I’m a Native American, we do traditional farming methods. No pesticides no machinery, all done by hand. If you wanna know more, I’m featured on one of the last National Geographic articles. :) nice try and have a nice, POSTIVE rest of your day.

      @lepotatoes@lepotatoes Жыл бұрын
  • Slacking off is often a manifestation of learned helplessness. From the point of view of psychology, you tend to be less motivated when you feel frustration because your efforts are not duly compensated. So you tend to slack off because you resolve in your mind that whatever efforts you put in and the hours you put in would not matter anyway. This is not frustration due to delayed gratification but rather it is frustration at not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. So you stop trying because you think it would not change anything anyway. This is not really laziness but rather a serious lack of motivation and undefined purpose.

    @TmTrinidad35968@TmTrinidad359687 ай бұрын
  • The young aren't given the same opportunities that us boomers had. I know , I was there then and now and I don't forget how it was . For them I see no incentive. Incentive is the thing that drives a country for advancement. If there's no hope for advancement , why should they do this when there is no impending rewards . I had chances for a job that pays a living wage that can support a family and buy a house with an opportunity to feed ,clothe , nurture a family. Now , the house I bought in the 80s in Canada for 60k is now over 700k and there's less job opportunities at a fractionally higher pay. There's no hope in that. I can't blame the youth today.

    @ronniejaye1@ronniejaye19 ай бұрын
    • Very true.

      @davidbolha@davidbolha9 ай бұрын
  • I'm a 21yo college student in Canada and everyone around my age I've spoken to relates with this a lot. I stopped trying at my current job last year after spending my first 5 years in the workforce learning that being the person trying the hardest at your job will actually get you nothing but more work. After giving up and doing the bare minimum at work I not only feel better but I get treated much better since they don't ask me to do extra stuff or pick up other people's slack anymore.

    @Kaz7.@Kaz7. Жыл бұрын
    • Bai lan is not the problem it's the CCP rejects that are the problems with communist China.Tell the idiot in peking to go back to Moscow.

      @joetai2682@joetai2682 Жыл бұрын
    • Wow 👌 👏 but never stop ✋️ learning things

      @ana8908@ana8908 Жыл бұрын
    • Fun thing I learned in a management course; "Never promote the hard workers, they keep the company going."

      @TheK-PopInPublicAuthority@TheK-PopInPublicAuthority Жыл бұрын
    • @@TheK-PopInPublicAuthority Wow that's sad, they said the quiet part out loud lol

      @Kaz7.@Kaz7. Жыл бұрын
    • @@TheK-PopInPublicAuthority until they quit

      @No-xs1no@No-xs1no Жыл бұрын
  • I actually support this because it's not about being lazy it's about the promise of getting higher education not matching up with job prospects. There are not enough jobs for these graduates and it's a competitive race. Happiness doesn't come from the job you work it comes from the time spent with family, friends, or living life to be happy. Having a job is to afford basic life needs and any little luxury on the side. It doesn't mean they don't want to participate in society rather that they are not intrested in constantly being in a race and can be satisfied with a job not being your entire life. I am in this category as well but I have my own family..I work to provide and im ok with the rest of my time being dedicated to my family instead of a corporation that replaces me easily.

    @nllee7051@nllee7051 Жыл бұрын
    • This video is pure propagnda against these young people, but I'm not a censorship supporter but we can all oppose its message in the COMMENTS. Governments/Companies/Organizations want good slaves who are married/have kids. After about 20 years working, I'll tell young people you should not have any loyalty to any organization, they will turn on you in a second when its convenient and fire/replace you. Also to ensure no slavery, young people dont get married and dont get a girl pregnant, make sure she takes the birth control pill daily in front of you and both wear protection. You will just condemn your new child to increasing poverty and freedomless slavery and these control/money/job trends worsen. Promote this idea in videos and social media to help prevent more young people into this new slavery.

      @rejectionistmanifesto8836@rejectionistmanifesto8836 Жыл бұрын
    • remember that job fairs looking to hire people are looking to hire for 14 to 16 hour days at 10 dollars a day-slave labor jobs and slave labor hours-these places have nets on the roof to keep their workers from jumping off. Better jobs exists but costs in the last year have jumped up 50% or more and even before that there were not enough jobs to justify all the graduates and even survival level wages are hard to find-and most of these people have already seen that working yourself to death doesn't pay and isn't rewarded.

      @averybaumann@averybaumann Жыл бұрын
    • Ditto! The problem is these people that are basically killing them selves Working those extraordinary number of hours are wanting to get rich to impress. Their self worth and value is tied to their net worth. So if and when they have a change in status, economic or otherwise, the shallow relationship they have with their circle becomes exposed and often times you see them jumping off building and bridges. No work-life balance is deadly if you ask me. They accumulate all that $$ and many don't live long enough to enjoy it🤦🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️

      @cd3881@cd3881 Жыл бұрын
    • They want a job, not a career, because that's what the race is all about.

      @mattia1026@mattia1026 Жыл бұрын
    • there never was though ? just because you would have liked to work the high education position doesnt mean you would get it. any position can get filled. learning a oversaturated trade is a risk any time you do it.

      @YggKriss@YggKriss Жыл бұрын
  • Our youth adopted minimalism and then the older generations saw the benefit in decreased consumerism and increased time enjoying experiences. I think the youth of this era are teaching us a lot!

    @littlebitmckee8234@littlebitmckee8234 Жыл бұрын
  • These people are onto something. Essentially, it's individualism.

    @awesome3dan@awesome3dan Жыл бұрын
  • Isn’t this just…acting your wage? Just because they won’t go above and beyond for simple tasks doesn’t mean they’re lazy. It’s simply doing their job. I’m glad this is being pushed forward.

    @aegras9397@aegras9397 Жыл бұрын
    • They are starting to realize that working hard will only land them more work but not more money or career progression. You don't know if you notices but the first man works for a family business and he says he avoids doing a task if others can do it. The truth is that he's likely not going to be fired because he's family so other employees can do his work since their jobs can be threatened.

      @lunalu552@lunalu552 Жыл бұрын
    • To OC: It basically is, yes.

      @ITBEurgava@ITBEurgava Жыл бұрын
    • It seems like bai lan is sort of a defeatist attitude compared to "lay-down". I'm more on the side of doing the minimum required, but not giving up as easily.

      @Lkymn@Lkymn9 ай бұрын
  • When you can’t even buy a house after working for twenty years and getting a master's degree from college, there’s something deeply wrong with our society. People will move out of cities, grow their own food, and do simple things that will make them happy.

    @shubhanshujain752@shubhanshujain752 Жыл бұрын
    • It's not even a house it's a leasehold apartment

      @wshyangify@wshyangify8 ай бұрын
    • ​@@wshyangifyfor real 💀💀

      @SeaSerpentLevi@SeaSerpentLevi6 ай бұрын
    • ​​@@wshyangify 80 years for jobs like waiter. 40 years for the average office worker. 3-20 years for prostitutes depending on how they sell themselves. If this isn't modern slavery I don't know what is. What's even weirder is how there's a crazy surplus of land, labor and engineers to make housing super cheap. But, well, there's serious money to be made by racking up real estate prices and those who own are winning

      @thanhvinhnguyento7069@thanhvinhnguyento70696 ай бұрын
    • @@thanhvinhnguyento7069 it takes you 80 years to pay for a house you own for 75 years 😢

      @wshyangify@wshyangify6 ай бұрын
    • Idea is nice, but buying land and a house in rural area is not free either. Also, you need quite a lot of land and live stock to feed yourself. Then you also need some expensive machines unless you want to do everything by hand and work all day long.

      @tajakjejtam@tajakjejtam6 ай бұрын
  • I was lucky enough to have had my first full-time experience as a consultant with a manager that encouraged us to just work our 40 hrs and not to sacrifice ourselves for work. It's rare but i think it was something i needed. In my college internship, i worked for a big company that didn't bat an eye to working past working hours, my mentor often was there before i came into the office at 9 and was still there when i left at 6. Having had no one who would tell me about working culture in the United States, my mom told me to work as hard as i can but after being promoted only once and my salary increasing about 20k in 5 yrs, I've stopped thinking that the extra hard work isn't worth it. Like many have said, if you show potential, they don't give you rewards, they give you more work instead. I hope more people stopped thinking this sacrificing mindset is a good thing to live for

    @coffeebeanB@coffeebeanB8 ай бұрын
    • I already decided this in highschool.. since there was no reward for getting high marks at all i wasnt going to go all out to get them.. a pass was sufficient.. so i did, most books i never even opened. College was mostly the same. I had already worked some part time jobs and noticed companies dont care at all. They even fired my mom from her teacher job for 35 years because 2 schools were merging and the other teammembers were from a younger generation.. thats what u get for showing up and functioning fine for 35+ years.. Even if ur not fired a company can just stop existing or more to another country.. and ur gone also.. I went to look for jobs that i can do on my own (no interfearance) and remote.. that way i dont have to compete and just do the tasks. (but hard to find though). Id rather earn a little less but have no stress and more free time, better then working really hard and burning out fast.

      @larsvegas1505@larsvegas15054 ай бұрын
  • I completely understand them. I’m tired of working hard to just get nowhere and be passed up someone who has the connections

    @ginastar5991@ginastar59918 ай бұрын
    • I once work with a sexist idiot we will call Steve. Let's just say Steve struggles and likes to ask me questions but get paid more than me and is promoted because he is best friends with the manager. I quit and Steve is still there rotting at the company being a nuisance.

      @wsrtwetr@wsrtwetr7 ай бұрын
  • i started living this way after severe burnout and suicide attempt at 26. i got a job in the medical field and did everything i was supposed to do. i realized fast that i was just a cog in the machine making very little compared to the work i was putting in. after the suicide attempt i went on disability and collect social security income. i work with other people in my community who are disabled. it’s much more fulfilling and i am appreciated. people will judge me but i truly don’t care. mental health and inner peace above all…

    @mariecait@mariecait Жыл бұрын
    • stay safe and happy:)

      @HANBIN97@HANBIN97 Жыл бұрын
    • Well, what would you be doing if you weren’t, now, sucking off the government and the other people that didn’t “quit” like you did ?

      @mouser485@mouser485 Жыл бұрын
    • Find the peace within ourselves, no need for a cure.

      @Zarozian@Zarozian Жыл бұрын
    • Virtue signal received

      @benitolazio8193@benitolazio8193 Жыл бұрын
    • Wow i have no words ,its shows how much pressure is put to being disciplined and hardworking workholic from society , you had the courage to try to suicide but not had the courage to show middle finger to job ,go to bunk and enjoy outside

      @vikalawa5301@vikalawa5301 Жыл бұрын
  • The boss used to make a dollar while you made a dime. Now, he makes a dime and his boss makes a hundred dollars, you get pocket lint. What's the point of working when you can barely scrape by and any attempt to save is destroyed by inflation?

    @Ultravenom1@Ultravenom1 Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah you might as well take back the only thing you have left, which is time

      @kamilareeder1493@kamilareeder1493 Жыл бұрын
    • such is the lot of the proletariat. the new "slavery "

      @mikeboate208@mikeboate208 Жыл бұрын
    • Very soon, workers will be paying their companies for the privilege of working- wait, what do you mean "that already happens"?

      @fetchstixRHD@fetchstixRHD Жыл бұрын
  • I'm an adjunct professor and freelance musician. I used to teach public school and was working 60-80 hours a week, thanklessly. Now I work 30 or 40 hours a week and I run, dance, quit smoking, no back pain, learned to paint, and I'm learning magic tricks for my nephew. I hike and camp any weekend I want to and hang out with my girlfriend. I get paid a little over half what I used to make but I'm 1000x happier. My job is fun and I have enough work to pick only my favorite gigs. I don't need to get involved in too much beyond my friends and family and hobbies. I don't need to take responsibility for large social issues I didn't start and don't have any authority or agency to finish, but I'll try not to make them worse insofar as one person can contribute to a large social system. I don't see what the problem is here, unless everyone's doesn't get it because they're jealous that someone can be comfortable not climbing and striving. I think this is a strike for the human soul. And being on the picket line is really fun!

    @JFalcony@JFalcony4 ай бұрын
  • "I discovered that my rewards were disproportionate to my efforts." 10:48

    @rubyrose49@rubyrose499 ай бұрын
  • As a Chinese, I realize no matter how hard I work my life still sucks. If I keep working 996 I will die and tomorrow there will be a cheaper younger guy come to replace me. So I stop dreaming about a better life and start to 'let it rot'. In that afternoon, I found the sky is so beautiful.

    @shiwenzhang4343@shiwenzhang4343 Жыл бұрын
    • Same here. I will introduce it here in the Philippines. It will spread worldwide

      @rencechannel2240@rencechannel2240 Жыл бұрын
  • I support their attitudes of BAILAN; I am a 38 years old scientific researcher. Since I was young, I studied very hard; I could not date with others when I was < 18 years old because that would exert a negative impact on my study. Then I worked hard to get into a top university, and after that got a full scholarship for Ph.D. in a European country. What do I get? I still work hard every day, writing papers and publishing papers like robots. I like their way of living for themselves and for fun.

    @WINDYCHUNG@WINDYCHUNG Жыл бұрын
    • Why are you here in the comment section? Get back to work!

      @seriouscoffeecup6450@seriouscoffeecup6450 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@seriouscoffeecup6450 XD

      @phasechange9789@phasechange9789 Жыл бұрын
    • The second best moment to do things differently is now.

      @gauloiseguy@gauloiseguy Жыл бұрын
    • But you provide something useful to the human race and these bums are just a waste of sperm.

      @mychannelforfun5523@mychannelforfun5523 Жыл бұрын
    • get a life

      @transformersrapidusprime107@transformersrapidusprime107 Жыл бұрын
  • I appreciate the nuanced approach and educated takes here. None of the parties involved tried to antagonize each other. The retired business man even acknowledges how it was different during his time.

    @_aiborie@_aiborie Жыл бұрын
  • This is reminds me of the quote credited to UniSoviet workers: "We pretend to work, because they pretend to pay us."

    @Athanatoi@Athanatoi Жыл бұрын
  • My father was a simple mechanic and could pay off the house i grew up in within 5 years. I have a masters degree in IT and am supposedly a top earner, yet it would take me 15 years to pay off the same house now, and people in a lower wage bracket have it even worse. If it requires double the effort and thrice the amount of time for a fraction of the rewards, what's the point? If i can't obtain reasonable monetary compensation through work, then the only thing left i can do is to reward myself with more freetime.

    @Chocolate-wb1bu@Chocolate-wb1bu Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, older gen have it more ez

      @Luluskuy@Luluskuy Жыл бұрын
    • agreed

      @hiddenblush@hiddenblush Жыл бұрын
    • @@cr0wland I'm in Belgium and I agree that the length of the mortgage may be the same. Even the percentage of how much of my parents monthly income went to paying the mortgage may be the same. The difference is that they managed to build a 4 bedroom house with it. If I make the same commitment and investment, I get a rundown one-bedroom flat.

      @VTOLfreak@VTOLfreak Жыл бұрын
    • @@cr0wland the real issue in the US is higher education. Many go into deep debt just to get an education and they never get out of debt.

      @kellharris2491@kellharris2491 Жыл бұрын
    • @@cr0wland I don't have the exact numbers in my head right now, but i know i earn about twice as much as my father while house prices are around six times higher. So despite having a better paying job and education i still have to pay three times more in relation to my income, a far cry from the the affordability of the past. But jesus, a 25 year mortgage? Might as well sign a slave contract. Being in debt until you're an old man, how is this even legal?

      @Chocolate-wb1bu@Chocolate-wb1bu Жыл бұрын
  • 23:32 This guy sums it up nicely. If you're working to improve your own life it makes sense to work as much as you can but the problem today is that working hard at a job is totally unrewarded. Overtime is unpaid and working overtime brings you no closer to a promotion, in fact it proves to the managers you should remain a worker. Working just enough to not get fired is heavily incentivised, as it yields the same rewards as working from dawn till dusk. The people are the roots of the tree, if you let them rot the whole tree falls at the next storm. This is a huge economic issue.

    @MrCompassionate01@MrCompassionate01 Жыл бұрын
    • Agreed - he mentions "some people think it's fine to carry on without trying hard", but then, if you aren't really benefitting from doing so, why would you [try hard]? I used to work hard in previous positions where doing so benefitted me, but then when I got grilled for any move I did or didn't do, why would I not do as little as possible?

      @fetchstixRHD@fetchstixRHD Жыл бұрын
    • "...in fact it proves to the managers you should remain a worker." Sounds like a secret way to ensure you can remain in the Work to Rule lifestyle and not be considered for becoming a somebody lol.

      @devonbueno8344@devonbueno8344 Жыл бұрын
    • @@devonbueno8344 What is Work to Rule?

      @MrCompassionate01@MrCompassionate01 Жыл бұрын
  • I think that this is actually a global phenomenon. many feel, myself included, that the hard work one puts in, only resulted in more work for stagnated or less pay yet huge health issues and zero life/work balance. and yes, I put life before work for a reason. I always am amused and bewilder in equal measure about advertisements for shakes, which are meant to replace entire meals (not a diet kind) cause you have no time to cook. where are you and what are you doing to have no time to cook? with your family? with your friends? doing things you love and care about? nope! probably not. more likely you are working around the clock. but what for???? I once heard: Q: what feels totally illegal but it is not? A: leaving work on time.

    @melindabraun6060@melindabraun6060 Жыл бұрын
    • Hardest i ever worked was when i worked in retail as a front end supervisor. Had to do my job, cashier job, cover customer service, and get people money for change etc. And they kept adding work for me, wanting me to stock the front and scan out the damaged items. Meanwhile they literally laughed at me when I asked for a raise(that i was supposed to get) which was only 25 cents above minimum wage anyway.

      @Zero11_ss@Zero11_ss Жыл бұрын
  • Guan Aizi seems so based, I find myself agreeing with her as she articulates her thoughts throughout the video, especially her closing remarks. Wan Yandong seem so resigned after his experiences, I do understand and can relate to his existential pov, while Li Xiaolin cracks me up, the dude's so real 😂 refreshingly secure of himself and his place in society. Zhang Yingqiu seem a extreme example but I also do agree to some of her takes.

    @_aiborie@_aiborie Жыл бұрын
  • the insurance agent is highly motivated because her compensation are in fact directly correlated with her efforts and hence positively reinforced. but suppose she's working at a desk job in the same insurance company with a fixed salary and realizes there's no hope for her to buy her own flat in Beijing, i'm sure she'll go "Bai Lan" as well.

    @charmander777@charmander777 Жыл бұрын
    • True. It's why I went into sales. I work HARD. To some of my friends, I work waaay too hard. But I see a direct correlation between that hard work and my paycheck. The same cannot be said for most people.

      @MegaGraceiscool@MegaGraceiscool Жыл бұрын
    • Not to mention how they're required to meet sales targets but don't necessarily see an extra cent. Used to work for a Korean trading firm and the targets always renew per month but it's not like I'll necessarily get something beyond my fixed salary

      @redfullmoon@redfullmoon Жыл бұрын
    • @@redfullmoon agree.

      @charmander777@charmander777 Жыл бұрын
    • @@redfullmoon exactly. It's almost as if people don't have a mind. If I'm constantly being given targets to meet and i'm meeting them or exceeding them and not getting anything substantial as a result, it's only a matter of time before I Bai Lan

      @Love-kc6yk@Love-kc6yk Жыл бұрын
    • @@redfullmoon selling life insurance is quite different. Here in Canada the best ones make a good living 👌

      @charmander777@charmander777 Жыл бұрын
  • I’m from the States and it’s no different here. We’re not meant to work like mindless robots for consumerism. I’m in my 30’s and in the workplace we have the 60-70 yr olds (supervisors) who refuse to retire and they can’t wrap their head around managing us that are in our 20’s-30’s. They try to micromanage us down to the second. We are more educated and efficient than them. We can get 8 hrs of work completed in 3 hrs. Then they call us lazy because we manage our time better. Ah and here we call it “quiet quitting”. Do the bare minimum your job asks of you but enough not to get yourself fired.

    @makotoserenity@makotoserenity Жыл бұрын
    • Exactly. I finish my work very quickly and have nothing to do. We are alot more efficient with technology

      @lilyflower91@lilyflower91 Жыл бұрын
    • Be careful with your paintbrush

      @devinjohnson1999@devinjohnson1999 Жыл бұрын
    • A lot of what you describe sounds like typical corporate culture.

      @chriscampbell9191@chriscampbell9191 Жыл бұрын
  • It's not only the non-proportional monetary reward that disappointed workers. There are also colleagues who are good at acting like they do alot, while they only talk, and the boss thinks they are the most hardworking ones and give them the best rewards. Quiet introverted hardworking workers usually suffer, unless the boss takes extra effort to find out who really gets the jobs done (which is rare) 😢

    @veryboliao@veryboliao10 ай бұрын
  • The secret is that you tell and act like you are working hard and overworking at times so that no one will bother your lazy lifestyle. I'm a massage therapist here in the Middle East averaging 2 to 3 clients a day, that's around 4 hours of work. I spend the rest of my day playing mobile games. When asked how hard my job is I always "oh yeah look at my hands its swoolen, im so overworked that i developed insomia"

    @regorflora7915@regorflora7915 Жыл бұрын
  • Coming from Gen X, I wish I had learned this before I experienced burnout a few years ago. Doing too much, thinking I had to do all the work given me, and therefore, more work was given to me. I finally gave up, or my body did. It taught me a lesson, the University where I worked still functioned without me. After I recovered, I set boundaries on keeping to my job discription and going home on time, leaving work at work and going to work on time instead of early. I've never been happier. Now, I am all about No Stress, because tomorrow will still come without me pushing it here. Kudos to these youth

    @NoraDawn@NoraDawn Жыл бұрын
    • How did you recover from burnout? Because it's become a serious struggle

      @Anonymous-qh9gq@Anonymous-qh9gq Жыл бұрын
    • @@Anonymous-qh9gq After collapsing and going to the hospital, the doctor sent me home where I slept for three months straight 🤷 no joke. And honestly, I don't remember much other than I would pull myself out of bed to eat. I still have symptoms, I don't multitask like I use to, something I was very very good at. Now, nope, one task at a time and Ive also noticed that every now and then I am unable to focus. Oh and I get tired faster. But these are all symptoms that make me go.....hmmm 🤔 that's interesting. It's been 5 years 😊 biggest take away, stress is a killer so let it go - things work out eventually anyway.

      @NoraDawn@NoraDawn Жыл бұрын
    • @@NoraDawn 3 months?? That's crazy, but I don't find it hard to believe. You’re absolutely right about stress though, too much of it can really mess with your health in general. Thank you for sharing that with me!!

      @Anonymous-qh9gq@Anonymous-qh9gq Жыл бұрын
    • I have made a career of not having a career. My work has never came home with me.

      @notsure1135@notsure1135 Жыл бұрын
    • GEN X here too. I completely understand where you are coming from. I literally broke out in hives and my physician could not figure out what was causing it at first . For that amount of stress to tigger physical symptoms was an eye opener. I've never experienced another episode since.

      @shel_311@shel_311 Жыл бұрын
  • my boyfriend worked so much overtime and did so much for his last job and he was still in university, they repaid him by asking more of him and basically promoted him without paying him more. keep people expectations low, the more you give, the more they will take.

    @naomijenkins7848@naomijenkins7848 Жыл бұрын
    • @@techtutorvideos You'd be surprised on how much this occurs as almost every company tries to pay you less than you deserve. The only way to tackle the issue is to advise your superior that you are looking for other roles so it can lead to a proper discussion of your pay.

      @paulbui1410@paulbui1410 Жыл бұрын
    • At least a promotion spruces up the resume a bit, and makes one *feel* recognized. Now imagine not even getting promoted despite producing incredible results. And then watching all other colleagues get promoted. Nobody needs to wonder why this trend is catching on.

      @strugglinghustler@strugglinghustler Жыл бұрын
    • Welcome to the real world. It will get better for him though. I did it too, internships. It didn't kill me, it took me to 40 to get a mortgage. I'm proud of my achievements You lot won't stick at anything, want special treatment. The world won't change for you. Get used to it. Success requires effort and stamina

      @marvinstorm9153@marvinstorm9153 Жыл бұрын
    • @@marvinstorm9153 ok boomer

      @bxnny0374@bxnny0374 Жыл бұрын
    • Why do thou practice fornication, fornication is an abomination unto The Lord.

      @RighteousAreMany@RighteousAreMany7 ай бұрын
  • Omg finally found this. I thought I was the only one and having this issue, I was young, energetic, passionate about my job, but I soon realized that all the hard work and late hours meant nothing. My salary could not even afford rental even after I got slight salary increment

    @xXQuIkSiLvErXx@xXQuIkSiLvErXx5 ай бұрын
  • I think this is only framed as laziness or "Slacker movement", because of unrealistic expectations regarding work ethics. It's not like these people are on strike. They just work as much as necessary to get by. It seems strange to do this when you come from a middle class/upper class background, but middle class people in other countries have been living like this for a long time. I'm from a western country which probably skews my perspective, but to me it seems like a good thing that people are not overworking themselves and living beyond their means.

    @alanna6321@alanna6321 Жыл бұрын
  • Like how is people doing their job and then going home a bad thing? Just because they aren't working like they own the company doesn't mean that they don't care. Like we need to change this mindset that if you aren't producing (for an employer) you aren't being a good citizen.

    @CaraMarie13@CaraMarie13 Жыл бұрын
    • Exactly, don't like that the video calls them slackers.

      @silverdweller2809@silverdweller2809 Жыл бұрын
    • That's the real problem with a communist system. When the means of production are owned by the "public" (read the government) then it literally IS your duty as a citizen to be productive.

      @isaaclopez-cordell243@isaaclopez-cordell243 Жыл бұрын
    • @@isaaclopez-cordell243 the US has this problem as well...

      @shemaths1668@shemaths1668 Жыл бұрын
    • You cannot judge what happens in other countries comparing it with others who are totally different. The whole Chinese culture and society is built around hard work and strong competition. Not having the desire to engage in this is something that threatens the system itself. In western countries, people working a 9 to 5 and having low aspirations is not a bad thing, but in China it is different. Other countries have other problems that threaten their culture and system.

      @matzof@matzof Жыл бұрын
    • @@matzof I've been here in China for twenty years. You're wrong on so many levels.

      @anypercentdeathless@anypercentdeathless Жыл бұрын
  • As an old Gen-Xer (the original slackers) I fully approve of these dudes in their pursuit of their own happiness (and yes I use the gender neutral "dude"). Why act like a slave to a company? The company does not care for you or appreciate you. Competition brings out the worst in people. Life/work balance is important. My father identified as his job - it was part of who he was. To me that is insane. Work only pays for life, I am not my job and never have been. 😎

    @TitoTimTravels@TitoTimTravels Жыл бұрын
    • What is your job now loser? Are you depending on others to live or are you supporting others?

      @aquilifergroup@aquilifergroup Жыл бұрын
    • "Work to live, don't live to work," right?

      @shaou-linwright2797@shaou-linwright2797 Жыл бұрын
    • The slackers are older than our generation labels. Some were beggars because they earned better than a labourer and beggars had a higher taxation.

      @robertagren9360@robertagren9360 Жыл бұрын
    • @@shaou-linwright2797 [insert word here] to live, don't live to [insert word here]

      @fandroid6491@fandroid6491 Жыл бұрын
    • @Mark Park Many people, particularly older generations, absolutely identify as their job

      @cassanateli@cassanateli Жыл бұрын
  • Happening every where, not only China. I graduated in college during 2008 US, job was bad. I couldn’t find a job, I take low level job at super market to stocking item. I’m embarrassed after graduated college and have to work at super market. But at the end of the day, it’s survival in life. Not ever thing will goes in your plan in life.

    @Johndnguyen1982@Johndnguyen19828 ай бұрын
  • I'm on the fence for this. Generally, I side with the Chinese youths on this one, but I can't bring myself to agree with one statement of the youth. "We like to play basketball. If our team isn't doing well, and perhaps the other team is winning by a big margin, we will just give up." Personally, I will only adopt the Bai Lan attitude towards things that I don't appreciate/enjoy, but are compulsory to meet my needs (i.e., at work, studies, etc.). But adopting the same attitude towards something that you actually like is something I can't relate to, because I derive happiness from improving my skills on something I like (even though I suck at it) and so, I would want to try my best at least in the things I enjoy doing. I find it very sad that the Chinese youths (not too sure if the youths interviewed are representative of the rest) are in this state. I'm not judging them as slackers, but I do hope that they can find something they are passionate about one day, and their society can support them in pursuit of their dreams.

    @organiclizards2080@organiclizards2080 Жыл бұрын
  • When I was in my late 20s, I came upon the same realization that my rewards were not proportionate to my efforts. It is a huge motivation killer. I was sick of making sacrifices, I told myself that my mental health and happiness was most important. If something did not work, I would pivot quickly and try something different. My life became a lot better after I stopped caring about what people thought of me and my accomplishments.

    @icysparks2007@icysparks2007 Жыл бұрын
    • I was like that until I turned 35. Always super effective and motivated at work and I always wanted to be the best in what I was doing. I also was kind of a perfectionist and wanted to get along with the bosses and the colleagues at any time. Unfortunately this also caused a lot of jealousy among my colleagues and they took advantage by overwhelming me with their work while also bullying me at the same time. For 1-2 years I was able to deal with it but then I noticed my body reacting to all the stress and when I came close to a burnout I just didn't show up at work and called in sick. After I returned to work I did choose the offensive solution and complained about the bullying and the insane work load at my company. The result was very disappointing. The bosses didn't want to hear about it and the bullies denied everything. After this their attitude towards me changed completelly and people avoided me. So I also developed a 'I don't give a sh!t'-attitude and only did the minimum that was asked from me. This also improved my life by a lot because I wasn't stressed out because of work all the time. In the end I left the company because I was sick of seeing those people everyday but in my new company I did choose a more relaxed way of working without trying to impress anybody and so I didn't have any conflicts with colleages so far.

      @JackoBanon1@JackoBanon16 ай бұрын
  • I love that the older adults in this video are calling 'kids' lazy - despite the fact that many of these older adults only had the opportunities they did, because of the economic conditions at the time. The guy who worked as a teacher for 10 years and then just decided to work in importing machines? Kinda hard to break into that these days lmao They get it easy, pat themselves on the backs, and then call the youth 'unmotivated' for calling it how it is, and not deigning to work themselves to the bone for peanuts and a promise.

    @Taylor-vy7ff@Taylor-vy7ff Жыл бұрын
    • It's so odd to see that everybody critical is just one step before realizing why. It feels like this was left as an exercise to the watcher... I would even argue that this is a result from an emerging middle class. This gives place for people not working just to survive but able to have different priorities in life. These all seem to have a quite sheltered upbringing in stark contrast to the poorer population. China will definitely experience major social restructuring due to the changing living standards for more and more people. These changes will be quite challenging for the state.

      @manveroo1340@manveroo1340 Жыл бұрын
    • @@manveroo1340 Arguably, less a case of an emerging middle class, and more a case of a declining middle class. especially in places like China. China is now reducing the number of college acceptees per year to reduce the number of young adults who would qualify for middle class positions in order to retain their cheap labor costs and reduce market pressures from too many college graduates w/o enough jobs for them. Additionally, nepotism is rampant, and with the stabilization of Chinese society, any social mobility is slowly being phased out in favor of giving jobs to family/friends. This is imo the biggest factor: that people have learned how stratified society is becoming, and that excelling in you position no longer nets you benefits because the management is now looking for more nebulous qualities as exceuses for their unfair affirmative action hiring practices, as opposed to hiring people based on merit.

      @theyellowmeaning7507@theyellowmeaning7507 Жыл бұрын
    • Younger People like myself would rather go back to the old days of our Ancestors who lived in Tribal Communities, Sing Along, hunt for food, make a fire from scratch and just live in a cabin. The way Modern Society is built is to be a Soulless Slave!! The Matrix. Ironic how Boomers tell Young People why they are always on their phones and glued to technology when older generations created such technology. Now you got a Epidemic of Young Men addicted to jacking off to pixelated Screens. Dam you Al Gore for creating the Internet

      @andradeb2695@andradeb2695 Жыл бұрын
    • C'mon man, they are lazy, there are not Zuckerbergs in the bunch.

      @AFuller2020@AFuller2020 Жыл бұрын
    • @Space Lizard Sit around and play video games, or make your own game and sell it.

      @AFuller2020@AFuller2020 Жыл бұрын
  • To me that's a healthy work and life balance...But I'm from Europe, so. I just feel kinda sorry for many who feel like they don't even achieved anything. They have a profession, a roof over their heads and food on the table. So to me that's great and way more, than so many others worldwide have.

    @honeyboo7549@honeyboo75494 ай бұрын
  • You can work hard, do everything right but still get no where. Why would anyone waste their one life for no reward? Its not laziness its lack of incentive. Dont blame them honestly.

    @jessemeyer3628@jessemeyer362810 ай бұрын
  • Before, i was very determined to climb up the corporate ladder. It was my ultimate goal. But on the process, I forgot to LIVE. I forgot that my job is just a part of my life and NOT my whole life. And I realized that there's more to life than just being a laborer and that my well being is more important than status and power.

    @rkdo9554@rkdo9554 Жыл бұрын
    • I wished i could show all these Kids the Workerclass-Struggle Videos of 'Some More News'.

      @nenmaster5218@nenmaster5218 Жыл бұрын
  • It’s funny that the government is like “oh crap. They finally realized we’ve been tricking them to work their ass off”

    @mystruggletobeadecenthuman5121@mystruggletobeadecenthuman5121 Жыл бұрын
    • The irony of policies designed to make sure no citizen gets left behind, creating a society with the highest anxiety of being left behind. 😅😢

      @lornforlorn4867@lornforlorn4867 Жыл бұрын
  • The "three mountains" are definitely hard for most of us to climb in this day and age. What a great turn of phrase.

    @phactress891@phactress891 Жыл бұрын
  • I think the main problem is the gap between the work efforts and incentives. As we can see despite people working very hard they simply cannot afford housing, education for children, good health etc . This eventually demotivates them and tend towards "Bai Lan". In the 1980s 90s competition was not very hard because very few people were there competing and the opportunities were comparatively more. But now things have changed, we have fierce competition and a great dearth of opportunities. This phenomenon is not only restricted to China but also apply to the whole world.

    @pawanjeetshahu9864@pawanjeetshahu98649 ай бұрын
    • yes THIS! Especially when they compared it to the young lady who worked 996. She was increasing her income and getting value from her labor. but she is an anomaly compared to those who are "bai lan". she said she is working towards making 10 million because while a "bai lan" art major is not compariable to the LAW FIRM she works at. its impossible for the 2 people to relate to each other.

      @X3nophiliac@X3nophiliac8 ай бұрын
  • Sometimes the feeling of freedom is better then money

    @relaxingtonuniversity5053@relaxingtonuniversity5053 Жыл бұрын
  • I am a 30 year old Jamaican Millennial. Having experienced working 100+ hours per month in overtime alone just to get by while my country experienced record amounts of brain drain (Jamaica has a very good education system and supplies great nurses and teachers but there's mostly sweet shop- like call centres popping up and little much of anything else so countries like the US, Canada & the UK CONSTANTLY head hunt us) I 1000% support these Chinese young people! I was always Bai Lan, more so after the age of 24. I just want a peaceful life where I can actually survive. I was so over worked and stressed out that I had a full mental breakdown and became heavily suicidal (still am). After nearly 3 years I'm only JUST beginning to come back to normal. Us young people NEED BALANCE! It cannot only be work work work (and now breed breed breed since the higher heads have realised that we are not reproducing more worker ants to support their retirement), worse since the boomers and some gen xers are HOGGING everything known to man. It's practically impossible for young people to compete/grow if the older folks who tend to also be in power are making decisions that mostly benefit THEM.

    @natnat8393@natnat8393 Жыл бұрын
    • You are speaking nothing but truth. I'm so glad you're coming to this realization. I hope you are putting your health first. And I hope your suicidal ideation ceases. This system robs people of joy and light.

      @deembbest4553@deembbest4553 Жыл бұрын
    • @@deembbest4553 Thank you so much for your kind words ❤️ They mean alot🙏🏾. I have been trying to rebuild and although it may be very challenging, it's slowly bu5 sure improving. I hope that you're taking care of yourself too, don't let the system work you to death! Edit: Slowly but surely

      @natnat8393@natnat8393 Жыл бұрын
    • You are exactly right we young people are not interested in conflicts and work. To sustain we need work but our life would never always work! I don't give a rat's ass about those multi-national companies who by the way are ruled by the previous generation and don't even care about the employee, even if you die during working they will give you a max 10min of silence to mourn and then "back to work" So don't dedicate your life to these companies who would drain every drop of blood out of you! enjoy your time don't know how long we have to see all the global events unfolding, take care.

      @princeabhishekgowda@princeabhishekgowda Жыл бұрын
    • If only there's a painless method to kill myself just to end the suffering, I won't hesitate! Especially the people around you are narcissists and ignorants. What solution do you have to that kind of people? It's ridiculous. Pathetic. You know it would've been better if I hadn't been born at all.

      @ayzeee1@ayzeee1 Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for sharing. I completely agree with you. I hope you’re feeling better and finding peace in your life ❤️❤️

      @plantmama7442@plantmama7442 Жыл бұрын
  • Leaving farming at our own villege and come to cities to find some job. This is the Worst mistake everyone is making.

    @rahulgade1870@rahulgade18702 ай бұрын
  • Kids aren't 'slackers' , they are smart enough to see that the work machine is a futile grind and destroys your soul and being

    @jerodwolf5582@jerodwolf55826 ай бұрын
  • The tutor lady is #goals. Earns enough to live on and spends the rest of the time cultivating her physical fitness, passions, and relationships. World would be better off if more people did the same.

    @kaciewolverton2692@kaciewolverton2692 Жыл бұрын
    • What funny is, in another countries in the world that call normal life.

      @rt2000rt@rt2000rt8 ай бұрын
    • I cried at her words. She is doing what makes her happy and she is living her life so peacefully and happy. She is an inspiration in my books.

      @spaRKLES88604@spaRKLES886047 ай бұрын
    • #cringe

      @arcsta_rr@arcsta_rr4 ай бұрын
    • can you elaborate please?@@arcsta_rr

      @simeon324@simeon3244 ай бұрын
  • Employer: “Last year we had record profits!” Employee: “Can I get a raise?” Employer: “No!” *drives to their home in a new car*

    @DriftingMunki@DriftingMunki Жыл бұрын
    • Sounds like America

      @Drpermer@Drpermer Жыл бұрын
    • @@Drpermer America 2.0 New features added: Communism

      @puneettripathi8418@puneettripathi8418 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Drpermer naah man that sounds like everywhere my country your country everybody same here

      @vikashKumar-ir6ph@vikashKumar-ir6ph Жыл бұрын
    • Employees: How much raise are we getting this year? Company : 1.5% profits were not so good. Also company: Pays executives 20 million performance bonuses

      @beewest5704@beewest5704 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Drpermer It's just corporate capitalism, which is global. Some countries have better social programs and labor laws but they're still fundamentally ruled by it.

      @bigjared8946@bigjared8946 Жыл бұрын
  • Both my paternal and maternal grandpas left the countryside to pursue careers in engineering. Now retired, they don't have much to show for it. Today, I'm studying engineering, but I'm starting to think they made huge mistakes moving. Maybe a calm life on the countryside was the key to fulfillment all along?

    @GhostSamaritan@GhostSamaritan Жыл бұрын
    • That is what I'm moving back to and look forward to the peace and reconnecting with nature and the seasons.

      @karismith5079@karismith50794 ай бұрын
    • I have a friend who spent 4 years in college to become a mechanical engineer. I chose to work at a grocery store. After he graduated it took him months to find a job because he was new and not a seasoned engineer. He did eventually get a job, but because of his student loans and not really being paid enough to justify all that college, we live in the same economic bracket. He could be considered middle class, however due to the rising price of everything, the middle class doesnt exist. You're poor or rich. My engineer friend is not rich, which means we fall in the same economic bracket. He can afford a few more luxuries than I can but at the end of the day out lifestyle is basically the same. He didn't come out that much more ahead than a grocery store employee. And thats why I wont be going to college. I dont make much but I'm smart enough with it that I live a good life and get to travel a bit. My friend is a slave to his job for the next 20-30 years until he pays off his debts.

      @Pickle_Panther@Pickle_PantherАй бұрын
  • Very fair and balance coverage of the topic, from many different angles. Much better journalism resulting in a high quality documentary.

    @lukeliem9216@lukeliem92169 ай бұрын
  • I've been letting the system rot since 2011. I've let go of all ambitions and never felt better. I wanted to be a engineer for nasa in DC then 2011 I got burned out. Now I'm a bartender in St Thomas and it's the best job I ever have!!

    @MasterTSayge@MasterTSayge Жыл бұрын
    • my 5 ambition dont require money. im lucky i can focus bucket list witouot becoming rich some stuff in life are not buyable or sellable. my 5 on 5 item are part of them

      @XeL__@XeL__10 ай бұрын
  • Slacker isn't the right term; it's burned out. If there's no way of moving up the ladder then why keep trying so hard when you don't have the ability to improve. It's when the ceiling is to high for too many years; and you know no matter what you do you can't reach it. The over achievers are simply lucky. Lucky to have an education, lucky to have family support, lucky that their health hasn't failed, lucky they were chosen for jobs they enjoy. Different MB personality types should also be evaluated in this situation.

    @mouserun8800@mouserun8800 Жыл бұрын
    • Many of the people getting the best jobs are going to be people with family connections anyway.

      @Zero11_ss@Zero11_ss Жыл бұрын
    • Burnt out people are the stupid ones. Slackers are the smart ones.

      @ronaldinojikri5682@ronaldinojikri5682 Жыл бұрын
    • What a cop out. "The overachievers are simply lucky." So them doing the work - studying, organizing, prioritizing, etc. to do well, and you write that off as luck? Were those from working class families who are now doctors and lawyers, lucky? These are people who persevered against adversity, and you chalk it off to luck. What a load of bs you're pushing to rationalize your own failure.

      @brandonnotsowise2640@brandonnotsowise26407 ай бұрын
    • I'm not saying that working hard, studying hard, and putting in the time is worthless. I'm saying that if someone does all those things and the day after graduation the person is hit by a car that's bad luck preventing success. All that hard work was basically erased by bad luck. I had a friend hit by a car she had to learn to walk again and years later she still has difficulty with basic math. 2 other people I knew are brilliant but they went through a terrible education system so they were educated wrong. Another friend is from an abusive family, she still hasn't fully escaped them and she is nearing 40. Every time she gets a job her family does something and she loses her new job. Dealing with the problems her family has created takes up most of her time and has had an effect on her health. Another friend was a good student but had health problems early in life so she spent much of her time in hospitals; because of that she wasn't allowed to graduate even though she did all the work. Last time I saw her she was homeless. Another friend has a parent who is likely a psychopath; that friend has major problems from that. When 300 people are competing for 1 job 299 people will not have that job. When there are more jobs than jobs available it doesn't matter how hard they work they can't all be the 1 person who gets the job. People die each year because they can't afford to see a doctor. Other times people pass from malpractice. If someone doesn't have money to buy food then they won't spend their time studying; they'll spend their time trying to find food. These are all situations where bad luck prevents success.

      @mouserun8800@mouserun88007 ай бұрын
  • Thank you from NZ, your doco was very enlightening, we have been aware of corporate pressure on employees for many years, which appears to also effect students under enormous pressure to achieve qualifications, this is a normal condition of any culture, as you are aware, technology has advanced somewhat since the 70s and the youth also, with their dreams will the the next stage of human growth, be not our closed mind give our children a dark forest but a great light

    @johnfoote1168@johnfoote1168 Жыл бұрын
  • It was interesting because I hadn't considered the difference between 'Lying Flat' and 'Let It Rot' before. They seem similar, conveying a sense of a loss of motivation to improve. The woman in the video who let go of stress while living peacefully stood out as a positive example of 'Let it Rot' to me. Others in the video appeared more negatively affected, losing motivation for no good. If I were one of those experiencing 'Let it Rot', hearing someone constantly compare the older generation to the current one and praising the past for its motivation might make me uneasy. I would feel that people need support to learn, grow, and overcome ‘Let it Rot', and the constant talk about how great the past was may come across as judgmental. I also hold the belief that memory tends to cast a more favorable light on the past. Going against societal norms is tough, and each generation faces its challenges. It's good that we have people maintain hope. I would expect the government to understand the causes behind these issues, and formulate policies to provide assistance. We'll have to wait and see how it unfolds.

    @amanda2816@amanda28167 ай бұрын
  • There’s a documentary called “American Factory” on Netflix and it’s about a Chinese company that bought a factory in Detroit, USA. The difference between both countries it’s stark. The Chinese were incredibly shocked that the American workers wouldn’t work like the Chinese do. At one point the supervisor said “why do the Americans want 2 days off a week? In China the workers get 1 or 2 days off a month and they’re happy.” The Bai Lin and Tang Peng philosophies are great but I doubt the young (not college educated) Chinese factory workers have the option of relaxing and enjoy life like their wealthier counterparts. China is a beast and it consumes the weak to make itself grow bigger and stronger.

    @007Julie@007Julie Жыл бұрын
    • thanks i gonna watch it :) when i have day off .... in 3 weeks from now But im working hard now so i can chill in winter time :P

      @Dynioglowy1986@Dynioglowy1986 Жыл бұрын
    • yeah i’ve seen that movie, however that was happening before pandemic. a lot of things changed afterwards... i see this yt video talking about very recent phenomenons. people are questioning everything now, especially after so many wealthy leaders/corporations got way more rich, beyond imaginable.... someone mentioned greed.

      @biljanas7931@biljanas7931 Жыл бұрын
    • But they will pay the price in the long run. They think they are winning now but it will come back to bite, just like that one-child per family law they implemented. When that law went into effect they did not foresee the problematic outcome. So it will be when these work horse workers are stressed out, burnt out, sick and then drop dead from stress and over work. Guess they will then try to call on the thousands and thousands of unemployed graduates to fill the slots. By then many of those would have given up and would have become Bia Lan..Tang Peng🤷🏿‍♀️ either way they screwing themselves thinking they are building their society and country but in actuality are destroying. IT ALL LOOKS GOOD NOW, BUT WATCH OUT🤷🏿‍♀️

      @cd3881@cd3881 Жыл бұрын
    • and someone tell me on reddit that american work too hard like over 70 hours a week and someone else here claim american only works for 40 ? wtf

      @busetgadapet@busetgadapet Жыл бұрын
    • "I doubt the young (not college educated) Chinese factory workers have the option of relaxing and enjoy life like their wealthier counterparts." Many of them are doing this. Since years it's been reported that many manufacturers in China suffer from labor shortage. Unlike people 10/20 yrs ago, many younger migrant workers would rather go back to their villages, if the wage is too low or the working conditions are too harsh.

      @golddan3336@golddan3336 Жыл бұрын
  • This is taking Taoism to whole new level. The art of letting go and living an effortless life is a philosophy that originated in ancient China. I personally find the Philosophy works in my personal life. It’s amazing how little to know effort actually goes a long way compared to trying to succeed in something that is not naturally achievable for myself!

    @jon6309@jon6309 Жыл бұрын
    • I wondered if anyone in the comments would pick up on that. I think China has become an abomination of all the worst elements imported from the west - aggressive capitalism, materialism, communism and even fascism. This is just their younger generation yearning to reconnect with it's roots and put some meaning back into an empty and hopeless existence.

      @richardcrook2112@richardcrook211210 ай бұрын
    • Interesting connection to Taoism. It actually makes perfect sense.

      @offensivearch@offensivearch9 ай бұрын
    • The spirit of Taoism is letting go of the desire of seeing (rewarding) results, instead of letting go of the efforts to work /study/experience better. For instance, you like a girl/boy, but you think she/he is out of your league. Then you just give up and walk away. This is not Taoism. Taoism means you do the best part you can, and let the result reveal itself (someday).

      @CyCinemaSpaceinTime@CyCinemaSpaceinTime9 ай бұрын
    • @@CyCinemaSpaceinTime I don't know about that. I recall a passage in Tao Te Ching that talked favorably about being like a gnarled tree that is useless to the world and yet can't be removed. That sounds like simply dropping out of the world. Look at Chuang Tzu as well, it seems like Taoism represents a provincial and contented life as the ideal. IMO when it comes to action, Taoism is about going beyond "doing your best and letting go of the outcome". That idea is popular in many other philosphies, but I don't think it is Taoist. I think Taoism idealizes action with no effort or friction, so there is no notion of "best" or "doing your best". I think it is closer to being thoughtless and effortless and so represents a different idea than mere outcome independence.

      @offensivearch@offensivearch9 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for this comment. I had not thought to connect this phenomenon to Taoism

      @junsu21@junsu219 ай бұрын
  • It will be interesting to see where this generations youth will take us. Bless them as the carve a path

    @littlebitmckee8234@littlebitmckee8234 Жыл бұрын
  • Ngl I've been doing this kind of attitude for a few years now even before the whole Covid and population of the "let it rot". It only came to me when I work EXTREMELY HARD before, long hours, taking extra shifts, working holidays, double shifts, then one day I became overwhelmed, over stressed, I'd also realize that my health was becoming affected, mentally, emotionally, and physically. I just started working was required, and started eating less, and taking time for myself. Do I want a better life for myself? Of course, who wouldn't, but why work yourself half to death at the ripe age of twenty six, to not be acknowledged or even given anything? I ain't dumb, I ain't no sucker, and I ain't lazy, just tired at my youth, when I should be working HARD to aquire higher or suitable status, but here I am doing what's required and moving on with my life. Governments (who most of know are run by old farts with overpaid jobs, and increased paychecks for something that's not requiring them to throwing their life's in dangerous situations or doing REALLY meaningful work), not just in China need to realize that and give what the next generation the same admiration as they had received when they were our age. Because of they don't I'm sorry to say this, but the future for many will look bleak, alongside with the declining of the overall world population everywhere. Also I'm an American, so I'm sure there's gonna be a raise of a similar mindset here in the coming years.

    @Activesilver97@Activesilver97 Жыл бұрын
  • Feels like an entire generation of burnout. Of getting to that breaking point of "what's the point?" and realizing that nobody else had an answer.

    @luvondarox@luvondarox Жыл бұрын
  • As a Professional Slacker, I am very happy to see this idea spreading worldwide.

    @tedcruzwiththetopdown5411@tedcruzwiththetopdown5411 Жыл бұрын
    • I second that!

      @dominicm255@dominicm255 Жыл бұрын
    • nice to meet you professor, i'm a slacker from china

      @user-hp6br7fe7e@user-hp6br7fe7e Жыл бұрын
    • @@user-hp6br7fe7e Always remember that Company Time is Toilet Time

      @tedcruzwiththetopdown5411@tedcruzwiththetopdown5411 Жыл бұрын
    • Same

      @cybersloth2467@cybersloth2467 Жыл бұрын
    • i'm learning to be a slacker

      @selaluoposisisiapapunpresi7982@selaluoposisisiapapunpresi7982 Жыл бұрын
  • For me it sounds like a depressed mindset. Keeping in mind how hard it is to keep up with the pace in which young people have to accomplish success. There is just no way people can live up to the demandings so they "let it rot". I would hope that these young people find a way to set healthy boundaries and find fulfillment in life.

    @licaleu5784@licaleu5784 Жыл бұрын
    • It is depressing indeed...

      @cyang4432@cyang4432 Жыл бұрын
  • With a huge proportion of Chinese youth becoming educated, the government decided to not improve on individual rights but became more totalitarian. An educated populace is not easily fooled. The young people are fighting corruption, social injustices, income & wealth inequality in their own ways, by not being productive and not having children. Can you imagine living in a country where apartment prices is 20-40 times your pre-tax annual salary, and in this market the government is NOT ALLOWING house prices to fall? One of the largest real estate company owners Jianlin Wang has said '50% of the home price is the land sale price which goes to the government, 15% goes to the bank (also government controlled), 15% goes to property developers, 10% goes to bribing the officials and the remaining 10% is the actual value of homes'. That is criminal, a whole generation of youth is deprived of the opportunity to live a normal life. Due to censorship and the near non-existent political power a commoner wields in China, they're campaigning in a non-violent, non-coorperative manner to force changes.

    @roger9430@roger94308 ай бұрын
    • not just house,also marriage cost and baby keeping cost is 100 time higher than last century.but salary only improve 10 time,that is why everyt hing just sucks

      @yuluoxianjun@yuluoxianjun2 ай бұрын
  • I’m proud of these new generations mentality. They can not be brainwashed by religion & government. They see life in “RealTime”

    @Spyaviator@Spyaviator Жыл бұрын
  • Bai Lan American here. Gotta say kudo's to the people around the world starting to recognize that consuming less makes life a whole lot better because you don't need to work your life away for material things that mean nothing. I've lived a austere life for a long time, and had many friends wonder how I get by, yet they never connect the dots making fun of my car that is a hand me down 20+ year old vehicle... Don't buy everything in the world and you don't have all that debt to work 2-3 meaningless jobs.

    @marathuzula9024@marathuzula9024 Жыл бұрын
    • Well said. The irony is that a car that was manufactured 20 years ago is probably a better built car. Cars today have all the 'bells and whistles' and sales media tries to convince consumers that they can't be happy or impressive without them. A car is only as good as its ability to move you from where you are to where you want/need to be as safely and efficiently as possible. I've lived long enough to know that owning all the things that are being sold to us may seem nice but those things end up owning you - either through debt or just the upkeep it takes to maintain them. No thanks.

      @wylderwynd@wylderwynd Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, and then some unexpected calamity comes up and you're fucked anyway. Nice job.

      @hnlpharmd@hnlpharmd Жыл бұрын
    • @@hnlpharmd the same goes for you. You could just get hit by a car and die, no matter how much money you have.

      @globaladdict@globaladdict Жыл бұрын
  • It amazes me that all the "big wig" people see this as some kind of epidemic, completely missing the social protest it actually is. A LOT of countries treat their work force like expendable assets and remind them that they are replaceable. I've personally experienced this countless times throughout my work history. You're also born into a society that pushes work life over personal life. Working 8-6 is commonplace, and even that is light for a lot of folks. A lot of us are working away our good years for little to nothing with nothing to show for it. I think Covid gave a lot of people a long needed rest with the mandatory stay home orders and, once it was all over, they didn't want to go back to wage slavery. People mocked the fast food workers asking for $15/h a decade ago but completely miss the point that, even then, $15/h still wasn't enough to live off of. It's not wrong to ask for a livable wage and an actual guarantee that your effort will be rewarded. I wouldn't work hard, either, if I knew I'd never get promoted or even recognized for my efforts. And now you add educational resources (the internet in your pocket) people could only dream of 20ish years ago and you have a generation that realizes all the old people fucked the economy to hell, stole all of the real wealth and locked it up (generational wealth) and have basically ruined the planet and we're expected to work twice as hard for 1/10th the reward. The worst thing you could do was give a society of wage slavery workers the means to educate themselves on how taken advantage of they actually are and how many people their are just like them all over the world.

    @ninegatesofale1898@ninegatesofale1898 Жыл бұрын
  • Where I worked if you were single you were expected to work overtime and weekend if needed. After all, those married with kids had to be home for the kids. Utterly ridiculous. Kids all over the world seem to have this hopeless attitude. They can't afford cars, homes, dating ect, ect. Young people have finally come to realize they are working hard to make someone else wealthy, not themselves.

    @PJ-vw4zu@PJ-vw4zu Жыл бұрын
KZhead