Tesla Model X: What I Learned After 6 Months of Ownership | Review & Impressions
We took delivery of our 2023 Tesla Model X Refresh 6 months ago now. Although it seems that time has flown by, we have put nearly 10k miles on the Model X, and have learned a lot about the car. There are many things to love about the refresh Model X, but there are also some things that could be better.
After 6 months and 9k miles, I have had a chance to calculate our total cost of ownership of our Model X. I have taken this information and compared it to a similar ICE vehicle, in this case, an Audi Q7. I have to estimate costs to the best of my ability as I dont actually have to pay for supercharging due to referral miles awarded over the years. After comparing the 2, there is nearly $2k in savings just in electricity vs gas.
On the other hand, our Model X was delivered after nearly $20k in price reductions. Unfortunately the Model X has come down another $20k since then and now qualifies for the EV tax credit. This additional $7,500 is only available for the 5 passenger Model X with no additional options. That said, you are now able to select any color you like for no additional cost. So although my configuration would not qualify for the EV Tax Credit, it certainly has an impact on the used car values for all Model X's.
The highlights of the Model X include a plush ride, fast acceleration, reasonably efficient in comparison to the Model Y, impressively fast charging, HW4 upgrades, premium soft touch materials with a better build quality than before and great storage and passenger space.
On the flip side, the car is starting to present some rattles and squeaks, service appointments are about 1 month out to fix issues, depreciation is massive, despite now coming standard with a wheel the turn signal and horn are still in inconvenient locations, the falcon doors have already had some issues and the Model X as a whole is very expensive.
No car is going to be perfect, and when you step into the limited world of EV's, there are sometimes even more compromises. That said, assuming the Model X is in budget, this car is amazing. It is super fast and comes with Tesla's untouchable Supercharging network. The overall comfort and charging speed really are the highlights, and in an electric car, those are 2 very important things.
In the end, its bigger, more comfortable, faster, better charging smoother riding SUV. It does come at a larger price tag, and will come with more issues in reliability, but can offer an amazing driving experience. It will be hard to overcome the value and reliability of the Model Y, so if you can afford it, it may be worth seriously considering to enjoy the various features exclusive to the Model X.
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First and ONLY honest and really valuable review of TMX!!!
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@@BeardedTeslaGuy I mean it. It’s not that I liked it though - I need TMY but don’t wait to wait, so decided on 2019 Raven X. Well…not so much now 🥺
Our 2019 100D (Pre Raven) has been amazing for past 4 yrs, put 50k on it. Just needed a 12V after 44months (warranty) and tires around 45k, otherwise has been SOLID! Now just need to sell it. Squeezed in a $79,990 “Tax Edition” Model X right before end of 2023. So far the 2023 has been awesome, none of the issues you described. Great video!
Terrific video man!
That was the BEST video! Exactly what I wanted to hear about. Pros, cons, all your details about cost for electricity, etc. Very well thought out and produced!!! Thank you.
So glad to hear! Appreciate you!
You can get a discounted model ordered directly from tesla with less than 4k down payment and a total no more than 20 grand with a ref code.
@@a.ctlyzerhow? Teach me sensei
@@reedoman3403 I did make a post on it
I really appreciate your videos! The camera work and narration are among the best of these types of channels. With the huge price drop, I have ordered a Model X. I've had a M3 and MY (my current car). Each has had a few minor issues. However, they have never compromised the safety of the car or left me stranded. I've had that experience with new gas powered vehicles! I only would consider a Tesla because of the superior charging experience and the incredible software. I am renting FSD. While expensive, I enjoy the heck out of using it everywhere. Keep up the great work!
very nice to hear, I am glad you are enjoying the content!
You know you can get a discounted model ordered directly from tesla with less than 4k down payment and a total no more than 20 grand with a ref code.
Great video. The MX is tempting since the price reduction. My MS driver seat also used to squeak. I bought Lithium Grease off Amzn, removed the head rest, and greased up the back plate all around. Hasn't squeaked since. Also the seat belt latch can rub on the seat, you can put foam or grease between the latch and seat to solve that issue.
I seriously thought about just addressing it myself, but then I decided I want Tesla to fix it, not me.
Thanks for your honesty in this video.
Thanks for watching!
great breakdown, thank you.
I traded my X to take advantage of transferring FSD to the new car. Love the new X! It Supercharges unbelievably fast! Just finished a 2000 mile road trip, and it worked great! Pro tip: when I traded, I configured my new X, got a price, but then checked to see if there were any “inventory” cars available. And there was! I was able to find one with EXACTLY the configuration I wanted (color, wheels, 5 seats, round steering wheel) for $10,000 less than ordering one, plus it was available immediately!
Does the inventory car needs to be in the same state as you? Or would they transfer the car to your Tesla service center?
was this after the price drop?
@@Trust_but_Verify I don’t know if they would ship the car. I was lucky that mine just happened to be local. Way back in 2013, when I bought my first Tesla, they did ship the car from out of State.
@@RudyBloor This was right after the Earnings Call in August. They announced the most recent price drop after I had taken delivery. But, the principle still applies: always check to see if there is an Inventory car available for a lower price and/or quicker delivery. Mine was brand new: 30 miles. I’ve had zero issues.
@@adairmartin thank you for letting me know. ive been toying with the idea of a model X since june and saw some discounts back then. havent seen anything discounted after the drop aside from specs with the ridiculously overpriced 22s my build is set to be here within a week, so im glad to hear you havent been having issues. hoping its perfect when i get it so i dont have to reject it and miss out on fsd transfer. my 3 had tons of problems and everyone on the internet always talks about problems on the X
Thank you for the video. Just ordered one for myself.
congrats!
Thank you for being honest and providing us with a real non sugar coated review.
of course!
You know you can get a discounted model ordered directly from tesla with less than 4k down payment and a total no more than 20 grand with a ref code.
@@a.ctlyzerhow? Referall from an employee?
@@raihanali1542 I did make a post on it
@@a.ctlyzer Yeah how do you get this code?
This is an awesome 6-month rundown! 👍
cheers!
Superior video. Thanks for your honesty, yet surgical commentary.
liked the honest review one of your better videos
thanks a bunch!
I only did well with my first Tesla's 2013 S P85. I found a buyer and got most my list price back after 2 years. Every other one had huge depreciation.
This is very helpful. We are currently debating this decision right now 😬
just do it already...justify it by saying to yourself you can make some new fresh videos on it.
Good to know for sure! 🙏🏽
Cheers
I just love driving our MXP. Drove SF to LA twice and still want to drive it 😅. Bought ours same time between price drops but with 6 seats for $3500 more got the Plaid. Love the yoke because you can hang your hands on it. You have to practice using turn signals. We upgraded from 2018 M3 because it’s noisy and the X feels twice as good. Falcon doors are awesome just needs coordinated announces opening and closing. We keep cars over 100k and way after warranty so fyi we found out one headlight is $2400 😳. No other issues except range is 70% but charging is pleasant. Looking into rear camber arms.
Its such a great riding car truly
Good review. I love my new X. I bought mine 3 weeks before the drop. In regards to the horn don't forget if you are in a hurry all you have to do is grab a hold of the right horizontal wing of the the yoke and the horn will honk.
And half the time, you’ll also scare the other drivers with your wipers flapping on a dry day 😂
good tip
We are moving from a '19 Cayenne to a newly ordered MXP. We paid $94k for the Cayenne and will pay the same for the MXP. I chuckled when you talked about service wait times because we waited over a year for our dealer to replace our driver's seat. I have a M3P and while that thing is bullet proof, I'm holding my breath on the X but we are super excited!! Oh and great video by the way! Your X looks great!!
so awesome, congrats on the FASTEST SUV IN THE WORLD!!!!
A friend bought the MX soon after its first version was released and he still enjoys it. I don't know his repair experience but those early ones may have had more than today's issues. I decided on the MY and received it in March 2022 and it has performed very well. With the all season Michelin tires, it has handled Colorado winters, torrential rain, high winds and summer heat absolutely flawlessly. I don't need the extra room in the MX and am also glad I skipped the falcon doors for their complexity. I would not choose the MX even with today's HW4 as I still don't need those extra features. The cost is still not worth the issues to my mind so overall, if I were to trade in the MY, I would choose the refreshed MY once it is released especially with HW4 once it has matured a couple years.
Model Y is the best all around EV on the market today
You know you can get a discounted model ordered directly from tesla with less than 4k down payment and a total no more than 20 grand with a ref code.
Love this - honest, up front, but still a fan in the end! I hope to graduate from used Model 3 Long Range money to Model X money some day :)
Love the brand, love the car, but be real, these aren't perfect, and for those spending this kind of money would be smart to be prepared if this is their first Tesla and $80k experience somewhere else probably wont be what they are expecting here. Still LOVE my Teslas!
Thorough, I had to sub and like.
cheers
Excellent video
Thank you very much!
Love my 2019 100D; however I can’t wait to get a refresh eventually.
Refresh feels like it was built by a completely different company!
You know you can get a discounted model ordered directly from tesla with less than 4k down payment and a total no more than 20 grand with a ref code.
Great video! Although i want a X, I think it would make more sense for me to keep my MYP and add a used S until i need to upgrade my Y and hopefully they would've added the comfort features to the Y by that point.
Have you looked into seat covers that would work with the 2023 Model X so they don't interfere with the cooling and heating. Can you set the suspension so it stays on one setting.I agree with you about the horn on the steering wheel. Don't know why they did that. The signals are a little awkward but got used to it pretty quickly. After I noticed there was a little lifted line between the signals it was easier to tap the correct direction.
I have not
First, honest review. Thanks man.
Cheers
Our September 2022 MXLR has had many issues to a point that we submitted a buyback request. Aside from all the issues we had, it is a great car. We love road trips with it. Only thing I would say is, don't expect to have a problem-free Model X.
Yep, its going to come with some "baggage" compared to the good ol' reliable Y/3
People say the same about Mercedes benz
Where you able to get a buyback from Tesla? Was it hard?
@@aleshka4712yes they gave 100% back plus registration renewal. In our case it was fairly easy. Our service records provided enough “evidence”. I have many videos on my channel going through the process. We took delivery of X Plaid to replace it Tesla is buying back our 2022 Model X Long Range kzhead.info/sun/Y8udqKmogoyNmH0/bejne.html
I have a 2018 Model X with currently 222,000 relatively problem free miles. I have the 22in wheels, but my tires only had to be replaced at around 70k miles. Never had issues with the Falcon doors. At 190k I had to replace bushings on the front driver side suspension. That's about it. Unfortunately, while on the freeway, a truck's wheel came off and caused a fair amount of damage. Due to the high mileage, my insurance declared the car totalled. I'll be getting another Model x, hopefully that lasts over 200 thousand miles as well. Model x is well worth the money for performance and flexing 😁
I’ve had my model x for 5 yrs now and i’ve had no problem with the falcon wing doors opening into something. I have had no seat squeaks or rattles but i had a bunch of paint defects on the hood which Tesla fixed for me. I have 76000 miles now and when i got mine i received lifetime free supercharging and i also charge at work for free. I have to disagree with the cost of maintenance, i’ve had 0 issues with the falcon wing doors and still don’t need brakes.
the great thing about EV's is the lack of use of the mechanical brakes. The regen braking is really good and means you almost never touch the real brakes on the car.
Have you had any issues with the half shaft issues and the dreaded shudder? What ride height do you keep your X at mostly?
My 2021 Model 3 LR had both its front seats squeaked horribly. The passenger one ended up being replaced as it was broken from the factory and the drivers seat was fixed in service appointments, but it took 3 appointments to get fixed. Nothing is more frustrating than a squeaky seat!
I can't stand squeaks and rattles in cars...
Great video. So far (fingers crossed) I have not had the squeaks and rattles you mentioned. Many of the panels are not aligned properly, but that doesn't bother me. At the tail end of my free FSD it was finally enabled. After several hair-raising mishaps, I don't trust it and won't bother with it until the software for Hardware 4 catches up with Hardware 3. The noise deadening feature makes it's own noises. And I was only slightly bummed that I paid more for it than current buyers. I have had the same experience on buying and selling houses. I love the car. I wouldn't go back to the bumpy Model Y or Model 3. I am enjoying the free supercharging I get for three years. And I also really like the extra features you mentioned. I am used to the turn signals, but I don't like searching for the horn button. I'm glad Tesla fixed that on the new Model 3.
FSD Beta has a ways to go
I had pre-ordered a Fisker Ocean Extreme and have been waiting on that vehicle for about a year. I had recently gotten the notice that the vehicle was moving to production to be built when I learned that the Model X had been reduced to the point where it qualified for the tax credit. I ended up deciding to forfeit my $1,000 USD deposit in the Fisker and decided to go with the Model X instead because of the insane value that it brings at the reduced price point with the 7.5k tax credit. Your videos helped me make the decision. Thanks for the content!
Beautiful car
Did you buy the MX?
@jillshaub5093 Yes, in hindsight it was the right choice with everything going on with Fisker. Other than some window alignment issues which Tesla already serviced, the car has been awesome.
Good info
Great video. I pulled the trigger on base MX 5 seater ultra red. We will qualify for the tax credit. We did a test drive after booking and it was amazing how this car drives & Tesla technology. Didnt like the yoke steering though. Our current vehicles are Audi Q7 & BMW 3 both are at replacement age. Just fingers crossed on ours interms of body panel gaps, paint issues & FWD alingments. This is our first EV and I have free charging at work. Hope this works out.current EDD is Sept 28-Nov 2nd. Excited.
Such an amazing car to be your first EV!
Why the X? The model y makes more sense for 20 k less
Just got my X a couple of weeks ago (also have a Y). No delivery issues (went through everything twice over). Paint is perfect (fortunately). Just returned from ky first road trip with it and absolutely love it. Space is awesome (previously owned a Dodge Durango RT). Plan on keep this X for a long time. Love my Y as well, but needed the space ... and oooohhh the space it has (I have a 5 seater simply because of the added space/fully folding back seats).
Does the radar in Model X do anything?
Did your X comes with matrix headlight?
@@Trust_but_Verify don’t know about the radar on HW4. There are no parking sensors, that’s totally vision. While it’s getting better, it’s not as good as my old X with HW3. And the self opening front doo still doesn’t open all the way yet.
@@nongbautista yes
sounds about right. This thing is a road trip machine!
Love this Model X Refresh (2022). Quite a few small issues, but quickly solved by the service center. Fantastic for long road trips, especially with FSD. 23K miles now.
Indeed
Good video! Sold my model 3 and buying a new Model S. This time around, I’m leasing. For me it makes more sense because of all the depreciation and new tech that becomes available over time. In 4 years I give it back and it becomes not my problem. 😉
Congrats!
@@BeardedTeslaGuy thanks. When I ordered it said “September / October delivery” but the next day they switched it to “October / November”. Going to be a long wait. 😅
@@MisterChibsYou know you can get a discounted model ordered directly from tesla with less than 4k down payment and a total no more than 20 grand with a ref code.
Another great video. How are you guys loving Florida?
Well, let me see here...Sunny almost every day, a little on the warmer side right now, pool just finished, yea, life is damn good!
@@BeardedTeslaGuy That’s freaking awesome. We live in St. Louis and once our oldest finishes high school we will be making our way to Orlando as well. We frequently go to Disney and on cruises. Happy for you Bro! ✌🏾
Video with delivery checklists please 😁. I guess lot of viewers will be putting in the order. Will be helpful when they take delivery
Probably a relevant video, thanks for the suggestion.
Thank You!
Appreciate you man, GET GOOD! been a while since ive seen those words!
Bought my X 7 seat, 22s, 2 weeks before the price drop. A $10k drop for me. Hurts but damn the vehicle is great. Even after my service appointment issues being fixed. Added all around tint this week. Wrap coming at the end of the month. Love the yoke
Nice, still waiting on tint over here
6-7 more years. It will depreciate another 40-50k in value.
I have pretty much the exact Model X and I picked it up on 3/31/23, WOW. The only real difference is I have the 5 seat version, which I wanted because I have even more trunk room and leg room in back seat. So I can carry 4 golfers and bags very easy. I also don’t have any rattles or other issues with strange warnings. I did just notice that a front sensor is missing, and the trim on front passenger side wheel has come loose, but that is probably from car wash or something like that. Service is very fast where I live and didn’t even have to wait a week.
PS. I love the yoke. It is way more comfortable, especially on long highway drives, and I used to ride a motorcycle so the turn signal buttons were easy for me to get used to. I do struggle with the horn button as you do, but other than that I love the yoke and no stalks….
Nice congrats
We have a 2022 Model X Plaid and have a little over 29k miles on it (Took delivery on September of 2022). Home is off grid (100% solar) we have saved literally thousands on gas. So far after 1.5 years of ownership we have saved tons of cash in comparison. Have had Tesla EVs for 5 years and have a total savings of over $35k in saving for gas between the two (based on how much we drive it). Fortunately, have not had any issues with any of the teslas in the past 5 years and battery degradation has been miraculously 0 for both cars... Model 3 had some paint issues (Which tesla fixed), Y was perfect (no issues at all) and the Model X we had was just a falcon wing door alignment but that's it. Most maintenance we have had so far has just been Tires.
We sold our 2017 Model X 100D last year… absolutely loved that car. Bought a Model Y Performance due to the prices of a new Model X. However, while we love the Model Y and it is the best in its segment in terms of price, space and overall package, it is a big downgrade if you have gotten used to all the extras you get in a Model X. Miss the screen in front of the driver, miss the bigger seats, miss the falcon doors (amazing in tight parking spaces with kids or stuff in the back), miss the regular electric doors in the front (I still put my foot on the brake a year later expecting my door to close 😢), and we miss the extra space. We might have to save up for a new Model X in a couple of years, nothing in the electric market beats the overall package you get for that price imo.
May I ask why you sold it? I’m looking around at used 2016-18 Model X’s since the price gap for newer ones are too much. Should I go ahead and buy one? I currently have a Mazda CX9. The falcon doors and space is what is attracting me but I heard Teslas battery doesn’t do well in the winter. Just scared of going away from gas.
Nice presentation and math work! The price drop feels less awful since you bought it awhile ago. Ultimately, if you love the car, and keep it for a long time, the price adjustment is tolerable.
yea, you have to go in thinking you will keep the car long term and then it doesn't really matter.
Thank you for your honest opinion. Your video convinced me not to get 1. It is not worth the hassle and money even though it's a great deal compared to 2 weeks ago. Even with a tax rebate, it is still an expensive car. I always felt Falcon wings felt gimmicky with a cool-looking factor. It's a great door in concept if it works.
no right or wrong answer on this one. Good to always make an educated decision and move forward with it
You know you can get a discounted model ordered directly from tesla with less than 4k down payment and a total no more than 20 grand with a ref code.
I think this could be the best price to get it. Now, they might have the 2024 models in the future. Problem is not able to add option and get the 7500 credit :(. I will wait until the last week of this quarter and see if they will drop even more. Plus referral program cut to 500 bucks
always possible, but know that the Model X, surprisingly, is the only Tesla with an extended lead time right now. So demand is pretty high for production.
My wife works at google and so she charges our Tesla Model Y for free, so $0.00 for electricity. Pretty nice.
install a solar, free charge too
@@mnew213but free is better than initial large cost, then free.
Yep. I charge at work for free. Love it
hell yea! Hey, can you ask her about boosting search exposure? Asking for a friend...
Are you sure she ain’t charging at her boyfriend’s place?
A selling point for me is the speedometer. The removal of the signal stalks ( and other buttons we are all used to) represents a no go, as much as the yolk did. Can only imagine the time Hertz has spent teaching people to operate these cars just to get them out of the lot. Sure I can learn, and I may be able to teach my wife, but as a senior, .... why? Do not have the interest, spent all my energy over the years figuring out DOS and dip switch settings and generations of printer and video and phone charging cables. Progress I had no choice but to follow. But, I can still get an EV I can get into that have the controls that have worked well for many decades (while trying to remember not to put gas in it). Difference for the sake of being different is a sales gimmick that probably best works on the young. Big Tesla fan for all the other reasons though.
I'm in the market for a Model X and while the Long Range is plenty for my needs, at $79k it's still a leap because I'm sick of car payments and would pay cash. I'm glad you haven't had that many issues overall and I'm looking to spec our Model X the same way you've had yours built to. Great video Justin! Appreciate it.
You know you can get a discounted model ordered directly from tesla with less than 4k down payment and a total no more than 20 grand with a ref code.
@@a.ctlyzer, Ironically, we’ve had our gently used 2023 Model X Plaid with 2,300 miles, Ultra Red Paint with white interior, a yoke and FSD for exactly a week. $97k .
@@slyguyaction smooth
We got our X the same week you got yours. We are just returning from Road Trip from Pennsylvania to Florida to Pennsylvania. Best Road Trip car ever. As you point out charges quickly, preforms superbly. Very comfortable. None of your issues yet. Best car I’ve ever had. I have a Might as well, like the rest of the world I’m waiting on the cybertruck. The X vs. Y is easy. If you can easily afford to have so much money tied up buy the X. I like to say the Y is 2/3 the car of the X at 1/2 the price. If you get a Y get the speed boost. :)
thats a good way of saying it
Shout out to Lake Louisa State park for providing the background drip!!! 👍😂🤙
100%. Such a beautiful place!
Would love to see a comparison between this and the Rivian R1S.
shhhh....coming soon!
@@BeardedTeslaGuy woohoo!
I just got a Cadillac Lyriq AWD luxury 3. Fully loaded. I love it. If I ever bought a Tesla the Model X would be it. But I really hate the Falcon doors. It’s not cool if everyone has them.
Everyone definitely doesn't have this car.. its expensive asf
the wood trim looks really nice on the inside, really posh looks
I'm on the fence right now. Took a Model X home for the weekend to try it out. Overall, I LOVED IT!!!! But, the drivers side falcon door wouldn't close all the way, (had to close it from the display in the drivers seat) and there was a rattle in the back seat. Of course I'm thankful for the price reductions, but I'm nervous about spending this much and being disappointed. Your review was really good. Thank you. I was very concerned about what you said regarding the paint. What did Tesla do for you?
They didn't do anything for me on the paint. My option was to leave it as it is or have it repainted. I am not going to go down a route that includes repainting anything
Does 3 row leg room is same as Model Y? Planning to upgrade to X but my main question is about 3 Rd row sitting. By paying 90k we should be getting enough leg room than Model Y 7 seater
Do you think they'll allow 6 seated options to qualify for the federal credit for before the year ends?
maybe? They'd have to either make the 6 seat a free option, or lower the price of the car a lot, or a mixture of both.
I got a used X and I am definitely trading it in for a Cyber Truck. The falcon doors look really cool, but it is at a cost.
No paint issues with my October 2022 Austin made Model Y. However I paid $9,000 more than the current price for the same car. Changes I would like see in the Model Y will probably be addressed in the Juniper. I would like 430 miles of range though.
over 400 miles range in a Y would be amazing.
Take it to a detailer. They all have something
The Y P is quiet without squeaks. Great handling. Easier to drive park and garage. Good room and practicality. I also have an X. For up to 4 passengers Y is fine-rear seat backs recline. X- better ride and room. ventilated seats. more premium.
Yep
Hi it seems like we both bought the model x around the same time. I indeed am bummed about the price dropping and I’m still underwater with my loan. I have a slightly different opinion on the yoke. I learned that if I place my left hand on the yoke just so my thumb rests on the raised bar I can operate the turn signals easier. I simply push/lean my thumb upward and the signal turns for a right hand turn similar to flicking the stalk upwards , and press downward on the thumb and the left blinker turns on . Try it after a few minutes you should find that it will solve your having to look . Muscle memory! On the other hand I totally agree with you on the bloody horn position. Tesla put it back in the center for the y they should not have moved it in my opinion. Muscle memory is too strong for it to overcome the ingrained reaction of pressing the center of the wheel with my right hand! Besides that when I turn the yoke to the right my right hand is positioned on top and guess what ,, you got it I operate the horn because it is right there. Pressure on the top right of the yoke operates the horn ugh. Great video.
I feel like everyone has a different "comfort" setting for holding the wheel. The turn signals and horn are annoying and thats that. Otherwise, the car is freaking awesome. Some questionable bugs here and there but such a beauty. Once you plug into a Supercharger and max out from 11-33%, it's hard not to be proud of your decision.
@@BeardedTeslaGuy by the way my falcon doors are acting up. Won’t open sometimes . There is a red line on top of the screen version of the car and when pressing the open door button on either falcon door there is a funky beep. They sent a Mobile tech and naturally the doors opened for him . No sooner than he left and the doors gave me the error again. This time I videoed the whole situation and sent it into service. While I was in the car they (remote service) having reviewed the video , had me repeat the process . I showed with an outside view that there was nothing on top of the car inside I showed the red line and pressed the buttons. They then tried to open the doors remotely and then the technician took a bries pause and did something remotely came back and scheduled a service center appointment. He said the sonic sensor on top of the car was failing and I have an appointment in three weeks so they can access the sensor from inside the roof. Incase any one is in any of the back seats and it happens I have to hold the app falcon door open button for 15-20 seconds and it will pop the lock and then I have to manually lift the door to open. I will then have to force the door down to the lock position (not tight just so the door is touching the lock) then press and hold the button till it locks. Since you mentioned this happened to you , and you have young children I thought you might like to know how to respond.
Update on service request for falcons doors not opening. Below is a copy of the paragraph that was on the invoice describing what service found and the remedy. So far the doors seem to be working . If any further occurrence of the doors not working appear I will update this thread. 9:38 PM Mon Oct 9 • Concern: Customer states: Other · Exterior - Falcon doors won’t open all the time . There is a red line over the depiction of the car . This does not happen a lot but it is getting worse. Sometimes if it happens and I drive a couple of miles the doors will seem to reset and will work properly. I tried rebooting the system but this does not help. Inspected vehicle per customer concern. Inspected spine center sensor. No faults found. Upon inspection found top door trim to be unsecure. Re-secured upper door trim. Doors are operating within Tesla specification. Root cause of issue may potentially be from loose door trim OR UV rays from sun on that given day. No alerts present at this time. Correction: General Diagnosis Pay Type: Adjustment Program
I currently have a 2022 Y that I pretty much paid for almost the same amount that this X is currently at. I don't quality for the rebate but I was thinking of actually trading my Y for the X. I figured if I'm paying this much on my Y, I might as well upgrade and pay pretty much the same thing. I haven't worked out the total numbers yet or the entire process of the trade-in but let me know your thoughts if this is even a good idea.
All up to you. I tried to share all the intimate details of X ownership vs a Y.
Also noticed model Y hatch will open right into your garage door.
it will if you dont set the height. To do so, open the hatch and stop it, then manually open it to the desired height. Press and hold the open button until you hear a beep. Now your hatch will open at that height every time.
@@BeardedTeslaGuy best solution is purchase X3
Wow, that consumption is high. I have a 2022 Model X Plaid and I average 271 wh/mile over 22k miles and that includes over 20 drag strip 9 second runs.
yea, our cars pretty much live on the highway though. My average speed is probably right at the top end of the cars out there for each of them.
@@BeardedTeslaGuy I drive a lot early morning (probably 70% of my miles) and I just run the fan, not the AC. That saves a lot of electrons.. My commute usually averages 240 wh/mile as traffic is often backed up and without AC, that means I'm running super efficient.. On a 80 mph road trip with AC, I get 350 - 370 wh/mile but I don't do a lot of road trips. I do 1 pedal driving as well. No need to drive aggressive in day to day driving. Aggressive only when I'm racing down in Mexico 😀or at the track.
Great video so sad Tesla does not get all these issues together. They must add Quality people to make changes, there is a lot of competition Tesla I guess needs to loose customers in order to get better.
I test drove a model x and was really annoyed by the gears now being on the screen. Is there a way to control them in the steering wheel?
Sir what do you suggest instead of Tesla model X for sharing ride ..?
Would have loved to see the actual number on insurance and registration fee (the estimate for the following year)
I am so lusting after model X now....been doing that for 6 months now. We are driving a 2021 model Y so it isn't so bad but....those falcon doors!!!!!
these things are pretty sweet but the Y is still the best overall EV today.
Don't test drive an X then!... I did and bought one days later as a 5+ year Model 3 owner (two different trims) :)
You know you can get a discounted model ordered directly from tesla with less than 4k down payment and a total no more than 20 grand with a ref code.
Enjoy the video. Wondering what are your thoughts now that the Cyber Truck is out and the features it bring would Tesla add those features to the Model X Thanks
I am sure there are some thoughts on next gen X, but probably so far down the priority list to be honest
Do you think Tesla might actually discontinue the MX in favor of something with more sales volume?? or is there another refresh coming?
not for some time. But eventually, yea I can see either a new Model X or a new name for a replacement vehicle to the X
I rented a model X plaid on turo for a road trip. I loved the experience however hearing the falcon wing doors squeaking and rattling every time you go over a bump seems like a big miss. And the driver display would randomly just shut off for no reason and there was nothing you could do to get it back on other than hope. At these price points they need to sort these things out.
Great video and review. Worth the $ for sure at 79K for those who want the X!
agreed
You can actually get a discounted model ordered directly from tesla with less than 4k down payment and a total no more than 20 grand with a ref code.
We had a 3 and a 7 seater Y- with fsd transfer, traded in our 3 for a plaid X. If your going to get 6 seats anyways, consider the plaid. The X is definitely larger and more comfortable than our Y. While our Y has served us well with the 7 seats, getting back there takes some gymnastics. The frunk and trunk are much larger in the X and the falcon wing doors are a must (ok - really really nice to have) if you have kids in getting them in and out. Also love the fact that I can control the back screen from the front when in park. Sound system is great. Only thing I’ve disliked this far is the self presenting doors. Always opens when I walk pass - and sometimes it won’t close so had to turn that feature odd. Acceleration is great as expected but haven’t had a chance to really launch it yet. Some things to consider is that it will eat up the rear tire’s quickly due to the camber - I’ve ordered some aftermarket adjustments to lessen the camber to avoid having to replace the rear tires due to uneven wear.
The fronts will wear hard too FYI. What aftermarket part did you put on to reduce the camber? I've chewed up one set of tires in my 2020 performance after 25k miles, but it was all on the inside edge, the rest of the tread was fine.
I’d also be interested to know as well as I am picking up a LRMX tomorrow with 20” wheels. I don’t plan on launching it much though. Ideally I’d like to not have to get new tires every 20k miles
The Model X, without its funky issues (and falcon doors just in my opinion) is an AMAZING family car!
@@jonathansage2147 - I ordered the macsboost for the 2021+ refreshed S/X (palladium) which should arrive in a couple of days - believe the are shims so much cheaper than full camber arms that are available from macsboost or unplugged performance
MXP for me with 20 inch wheels. Hopefully I can do a square set up
Hey, I had an aftermarket turn signal stalk system on my Jeep, might that be an option from somebody on stalk-less Teslas?
I am sure some company will introduce that, they've already have aftermarket dash for Model 3/Y.
Pretty sure S3XY buttons is working on one right now!
My seat squeak was solved by raising the seat an inch, I like to keep it at the lowest setting
Do you have to lose an inch of fat to compensate the higher seat position? 😬
I sit at the lowest setting
How do you like the yoke steering wheel?
how is the road noise compared from the Y to the X? I feel like I can hear everything in my Y.
X is for sure quieter than the Y
We need a video on Tesla’s infamous service centers and experience.
Well, I would love to, but I am still 8 days away from my month long wait for service...
Rear tires won't last 20k miles. You must buy $2K adjustable camber arms and pay $? for installation and alignment. Does fix the problem.
I ended up ordering when they dropped the prices to 79990 and made the colors free :) Im hoping we qualify for that tax rebate, but this is a great price regardless!!!
nice congrats!
@@BeardedTeslaGuy can you lease the X and purchase at the end?
Thanks for your review. You are totally right that the X is expensive and you can get cheaper alternatives. But if you would like to buy a car in this area, you can only take the X or the new Q8 55. I chose the X because of the price drop, in the other situation I would bought the Q8. Possible for the future a used one could be a solution. If you would like to go really cheap, you need to take a Dacia. In Germany under 6000€ (ModelX 100T€, Q8 80T€ plus options around 100T€ and more). Smal car without anything and low fuel consumption.
In this class, the R1S is the only other one I'd consider, but the price is quite a bit higher now.
You can get a discounted model ordered directly from tesla with less than 4k down payment and a total no more than 20 grand with a ref code.
What does that do for Gap Insurance. I think my credit union said they would only cover like 30% negative equity when we totaled our MY last year. We are planning to get an X for Christmas. Of our M3 and MY will hold. Only Tesla people ❤
no clue on Gap coverage because I dont buy it on any of my cars.
All the stuff I heard is really not that bad. This is what comes with an electric car plus, he said they will be cheaper in the future. I will definitely buy this car and keep it for a while.
as any new technology matures, costs will inevitably come down.
You know you can get a discounted model ordered directly from tesla with less than 4k down payment and a total no more than 20 grand with a ref code.
coming from a model y i dont think i can get used to the large window...i can see the reflection on the street lines in the side of the windshield and the tint seems to cross too low on the windshield...
At the new price point of just under $80k we were tempted to step up from our Model Y to a Model X. I just could not get over those ultra complex Falcon doors and headache they will be after the warranty expires. We love everything else about the X however.
Not bad thinking
@@BeardedTeslaGuy I just wish Elon listened to his engineers and scrapped the Falcon wing doors. They are simply too complex of a design with sensors, electric motors, seals, etc.
I loved this video, especially with the comparison between the Model X and comparable ICE vehicle in size. One factor you didn't cover is that the Audi Q7 would've traveled 9,000 miles a lot faster, with a lot less headache, getting a real 550 miles of range and taking 10 minutes to fill up.
But remember that’s 10 minutes to fill up every time. The Tesla only takes you waiting when you are road tripping. I plug in the garage, never go to the gas station to fill ip
I am holding off until Jan to order an X, hoping they drop the price to move some during 1st quarter.
Always possible
You know you can get a discounted model ordered directly from tesla with less than 4k down payment and a total no more than 20 grand with a ref code.
@@a.ctlyzerI'm intrigued do tell?
Yeah... once they change the model X in 2025 the older ones will be heavily discounted just all the model y. They're practically giving those cars away 😂😂😂😂
Planning, planning, planning..... Just ordered my MX. This will be my 4th EV in the garage. First was a CODA, then a Model 3 and a Bimmer i3, the MX will be next. Do I expect the MX as trouble-free as the first 3? Absolutely not! I know there will be more trips to the service center. That is price to pay when an wife and I want a big, comfortable, and luxury EV for travel (we are both retired). Electricity cost for us? Zero! We installed oversized solar panels on our roof big enough to support TWO EV's - my son's Model 3 and my Bimmer i3. Now he runs away with his new wife, my monthly electricity bill is negative. I don't expect that to change with the MX. What electricity cost?
Woohoo, Congrats!
We are looking at the Model X because of the Falcon doors. I am my mothers Caregiver and she is wheelchair bound and I use a lift to get her into our Model Y. It is difficult because I have to watch out with the opening of the car and not hit her head and then once I clear her head her bottom hits the seat so have to raise her a little to get her over the seat. In the Model X the Falcon doors eliminates that problem because I can lift her up high enough to clear the seat and not worry about hitting her head. So I do think it is worth it. It's the only car that makes it so much easier to get her into.
I wish there were more mobility Model X's out there because it really is an ideal platform for this.
You can get a discounted model ordered directly from tesla with less than 4k down payment and a total no more than 20 grand with a ref code.
@@a.ctlyzer Thank you. Where do you get the ref code?
@@kalanikaluhea5409 I did make a post on it
Big question, is additional $ for X really worth it versus the Y. I’m a taller person and X feels more comfortable, but the Y would work. Just hard swallowing the extra $. If that gap narrows even more, than I’d go X
Y vs X video is coming soon!
As a 5+ year Model 3 driver, YES! 100% I'm 6' 2" (215lbs) and was blown away by my new X test drive and ordered on on 9/4 after test driving some competition including the Y, Cadillac Lyriq, Fisker Ocean and Polestar 2.
I’ve owned a Model S (leased) which I gave back for a Model X (pre-Raven) in 2018. I love my Tesla, but I wouldn’t do the Model X again simply because of the gull wing doors. They are cool and they get attention, but they are also a real pain. I’ve lived in Tampa, Orlando, and Nashville and while I’m not comparing Apples to Apples the Orlando Service Center is hands down the worst service center I’ve been to from a customer perspective. I’ve had a lot of issues with my Model X from delivery paint issues to wrong configuration. I’ve been locked out of the vehicle twice because the 12 v battery died with no warning. I had the HV battery fail and needed replacement in the middle of the pandemic which took 3 months. It also took more effort than it should have to get Tesla to make it right. All that said though I’d still pick a Tesla every day of the week. The service side needs work, but in some centers you would never know this is an issue such as Nashville (at least in my experience). If you are in Orlando it is a huge issue. They can fix those things though and I view them as a temporary inconvenience. I do worry about all these companies adopting the Tesla chargers and Superchargers getting congested, but that really doesn’t affect me too much since 90% of my charging is at home. But as I said, I can’t imagine my next car not being a Tesla.
Ordered one in Ultra Red 5 seat to get the tax break. Moving on from my Mustang Mach e. I'll take a hit on that but the price drop helps absorb that loss. I like the MME, but it's just not a Tesla, and the X's charging curve is soooo good it's worth the $$ for me over the Y. I just hope I don't have too many service issues. If they are minor I can live with that.
dude, charging curve is about to BLOW YOUR MIND!
@@BeardedTeslaGuy I realize that if I’m going to have an EV for now it has to be a Tesla. Never even considered an X, but at this price its worth splurging a bit to get all the goodies. It should be a great vehicle for a few years. Huge improvement from what I have, and I like what I have. Great job on your content. Always spot on and informative. I appreciate it!
What do I do? I have a 2023 X with none of the issues you've mentioned on your X. And that's my point, your issues and constant complaining is about your vehicle, not every X that is produced. I would suggest at this point you request a buyback. The fit and finish on mine is flawless, wing doors lock and load without any issues, no squeaks in the seats. I honestly feel left out of the constant negativity about a vehicle that I feel is one of the finest on the road today. Suggestion, somehow unload your X lemon and keep the Y, and may I say, happy trails to you.
lol, I have NEVER been inside of a Model X that was flawless. This isn't just B*ing and complaining, this is educating people on what to be prepared for so they aren't disappointed. Imagine if I made a fake video praising its perfection. What do you think would happen when the "masses" go to take delivery and there are issues just like this? They'd be pissed and I would have no credibility, kind of like you with your statement. I dont think you are lying about your car being flawless,i have just never seen one before, and even you suggest you feel left out of all these people having issues. hint, its not that everyone else is wrong and you alone are right... By the way, and this one is hard for some people to understand, IT IS OK TO BE CRITICAL OF SOMETHING AND LIKE IT...the 2 are not mutually exclusive.
Bs! Something interior squeaks or creeks when pressed on
I think the falcon doors are a problem waiting to happen. It is a lot of 💰 to spend when the tech is great but the build quality is always an issue.
I could be fine without the Falcon doors, but I know some people want the X only for the Falcon doors
Did they fix all the issues with your vehicle ?
It is still not worth $80K. I feel your depreciation pain. I took delivery of my MY on Dec. 27 and 10 or so days later, the price was significantly reduced.
Same
Depreciation hurts bad...