MWI War Council: The Withdrawal from Afghanistan - Causes and Consequences
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On 03 September 2021, The Modern War Institute at West Point hosted a multi-disciplinary panel to provide political, military, and humanitarian context about the American withdrawal from Afghanistan for all cadets, staff and faculty. The virtual panel featured the scholarship and practical experiences of MAJ Kyle Atwell (SOSH), Dr. Paul Miller (Georgetown), Dr. Jonathan Schroden (CNA), and Dr. Rachel Tecott (USNWC). A period for audience-led discussion and questions followed the panelist presentations.
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Could I like this a 1000 times? Thank you, Modern War Institute.
Great panel! balanced and diverse viewpoints. Rich and lively discussion. Thanks as always. Would love to hear the viewpoints of historians as well, folks who can accurately assess the Vietnam comparison in detail, although this discussion did a nice job of that too. Mad respect to MAJ Kyle Atwell, most insightful commentator on the panel, hard to argue with his front line experience
It is essential to stop overthrowing governments and then claiming you are fighting an insurgency. No, the people you are fighting are NOT insurgents. Counter insurgency results from the support to an ALREADY friendly government that is under threat. Iraq and Afghanistan were not counter insurgencies. The Philippines is. Columbia is.
Thank you.
It's cultural more than political or organizational , though isn't it? Hearing -lack of commitment(not politically feasible and likely 9-11 was as close as we'll ever get again, the trust isn't there), small units,tempered expectations, proxies, failure of mirroring.....decentralization being hinted at. Maybe top-down isn't the way. What would that organizational diagram look like?
Upper echelons of both the Afghanistan military and government were extremely corrupt and upper echelons of US state department and military looked the other way & punched their tickets kicking can to the next guy/gal. No matter how great our intentions were, we were foreign outsiders.
Well Afghanistan isn't really a united nation per say at least that's not how the Afghans see it. Both Iraq and Afghanistan voted on purely ethnic divides. We wouldn't split the countries even the highly independent Kurds because that's not how Americans do things. But those cultures are not American and some of them have grudges that are older then the Taliban.
15:55 sure but the art of war says a prolonged war is a terrible thing and wars should be won as quickly as possible. That said timelines are bad
Where I’m from in Afghanistan I pop them taliban all dome shots. It’ll be your guys fault that Isis will expand in AfG.
l'ennemi de mon ennemi est un ami de circonstance , le rôle de l'Iran dans tout cela qui semble rafler la mise en apportant aides et soutiens au nouveau gouvernement des talibans et Téhéran aide à ce que l’État Afghan soit sur pied et donc une alliance et je ne serais dire une autre forme de colonisation . maintenant il y a un déphasage complet entre Washington et les militaires sur le terrain à forger des alliances pour les renseignements interne de l'Afghanistan et de pouvoir , me semble-t-il protéger les intérêts américains alors que sont ces intérêts? et puis l’EI est-ce une création américaine ou des alliés américains ou des contre les intérêts américains dans la région , car il semble qu’il existe une alliance implicite des américains avec les talibans qui avait poussé Biden à signer le retrait de la force militaire américaine et ce genre de tractations avant le retrait précipité des américains prévisage qu’il y a eu d’autres tractations implicite , en troisième main, indirect, avec Téhéran pour ses installations nucléaire qu’Israël fait le forcing pour empêcher ce programme nucléaire mais en vain car l’armée américain est en pleine reconstitution selon le Pentagone etne se permet plus des interventions militaires comme auparavant ou de protéger ces alliés ; et donc l’armée américaine se comporte et en militaire et en politique , diplomate ...que cela aille de soi à une condition de respecter la transparence en démocratie
do you believe everything they say ???