for all the Toronto Maples Leaf fans that want to see Mitch Marner go, unless he waives his NMC, he's staying a Leaf, which is something that alot of you guys probably don't want to hear, but in reality it's up to him if he will stay or go!
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Bye bye Sheldon, bye bye Shanahan.
THATS ONLY THE START
If the Leafs are going to be the Oilers of the East, they need to take notes and demolish management from top down or bottom up, either way, one way or another, regardless, Toronto WILL ALWAYS be a losing team in the playoffs. Can't keep old management and get 'new' players and expect things to work the way the old guard wants, I hate to say but that is the truth. Toronto MUST be all in on this or keep losing hardcore till kingdom come.
Shanahan's job is to make sure the team remains highly profitable. He has done a great job. The winning is on the GM and coach. And players.
Oilers will be out before the finals. Don't kid yourself.Bettman will not have it any other way.
@@johnsummerhill8323 Yes it is an American sport now and his atitide is only money not the sport. It is written somewhere that a Canadian team must not win the stanely cup...37 years now!!
Another year, another scapegoat. You guys were loving this kid a few years ago when he was laying out his body in game 3 against Boston. It was all Nylanders fault that year and he had to go. Make up your damn minds leaf fans. Next Year is Morgan Reileys turn.
My gawd this is so true!!!
Casual
This year is Rielly's fault too you see him dogging it on this play or you just come right to the comments without actually watching what your commenting on like a clown?
finally another real Leaf fan
ITS THE FAULT OF THE FANS....FOR FILLING THIER ARENA EVERY GAME TO SUPPORT THIS CRAP!
That goal was unreal. Samsonov just staring at it 3 feet in front of him. Leafs D all flatfooted. Nylander flatfooted. Marner's head in space while Boston's best goal scorer goes past him like he's a traffic cone. What a complete team failure that goal was. Absolutely staggering that these people even made it to game 7. Brutal, brutal defensive forwards with no hockey sense compared to their peers.
Unlikely Marner insists on staying. He'd be much better off in a market that isn't as intense at Toronto. He's not built for this level of pressure.
I promise you that even if Marner leaves the leafs will be the exact same team in the playoffs next year!! Count on it!
Yup the captain doesn't even want to work for a cup
@@I_amTurokThe captain works a helluva lot harder than the supposed 'MVP'. But they're both horribly overpaid.
@tonylloy327 he only plays for regular season records. Not close to a true captain
You’re probably right hahaha
They play better without ‘Zona boy 🤷♂️. Just saying...they missed a huge opportunity with Arizona. That team would have paid through the nose to get the hometown hero.
Marner isnt the problem. They paid a whole lot of money for a bunch of marners, that's the problem
Like who?
You are insinuating the problem is a bunch of Marners, which would imply the #1 problem is Marner. Lol dummy
Yes! This is why every body hates leafs. They pay 40 mil ( a half of team salary) to four players and expect to win. When they eventualy lose, they always find some one to blame. This year it is Marner. :D
Marner the best leaf I don't care if Nylander scored a couple goals... Marner made Matthews a goal scorer seeing as how most of his goals are first passes from mitch
Yes he is. Didn't even face the media after his series no show.
If I were Marner, I’d be embarrassed to stay on Toronto.
Facts. The poor guy cant come out his house anymore in Toronto lol he's better off going to a team like Columbus and hopes he can low-key swindle the NHL for $11M a year until its all over...
Marner is UFA after next season. So is Tavares.
You're stupid if you believe that. His numbers go way down because he no shows in the playoffs. Try watching a Leafs game instead of an arm chairing.
@@AEMoreira81 Marner can waive his NMC
its funny because Tavares and Matthews arent built for playoff hockey either... lmfao
Why would anyone want to be with the Maple Leafs, either as a player or staff? Who would want to be in a situation where the ungrateful fanbase calls for your throat? I'd rather play for the Blue Jackets. Best of luck finding a new coach.
The "ungrateful fanbase" has been putting up with this crap for 57 years and still fill the arena every game.
Can you prepare the chopping block?
They get paid millions of dollars to play a game. Cry me a river.
The most interesting part of this little thread is that everyone is right.
It wouldn't matter if Marner put up 15 points in this series and they lose to Boston in 7 and to Leaf fans it would never be good enough. The rest of the big 4 do nothing and that is an acceptable performance. Best case is Marner moves somewhere in the East and gets the Leafs in round 1 next year and then lights their asses up.
You're bang on!! 👍 (Although I don't think you can say Nylander did nothing...he was pretty solid...but how can Matthews and Tavares and even Rielly's playoff performances over these past few years be considered acceptable, while all the heat goes onto Marner??)
@@tonylloy327 Fair on Nylander, 3 goals in 4 games is acceptable. He is the only one reliable for anything this time of year. Mitch is the scapegoat and to many in Leafs Nation may still be next Spring if he is moved out & the choke again in Rd 1. If we just still had Marner. lmao
@@timkitchen692 You can almost count on that. "If we still had Freddie Anderson"..."If we still had Kadri"..."If we still had Hyman"...we've all seen this movie before.
Marner and Tavares put up two goals combined and Nylander had three and only played four games while hardly being able to see. If marner puts up 15 points or at worst is a ppg we fucking win this series. I don't know what you're talking about but that is the most retarded take I've ever heard in my life
Marner played all 7 games Matthews and Willy played half and still had more points. And do you just not watch the video your commenting on or you just r-tarded to what your looking at? Pasta was Marner's man and hes just skating through the neutral zone on an afternoon skate.
On the Pasta overtime goal, both Nylander and Marner looked like their controller ran out of juice. You know when you play the EA Sports NHL game and your controller goes dead? The player you were controlling just ends up gliding in a straight line.
I see no world where Marner doesn't waive his NMC. The fans have been calling for his head for a couple years now and his performance in these playoffs (along with JT) was unacceptable considering what they're paying him.
Butt which team has the cap space to trade for him? Tricky trade.
Marner wants to leave anyway. He was ready last summer.
Hire Babcock back as coach and Marner will waive so fast.
The cowardly Lion Tavares would like to hand the crown over to Marner.
Marner for zegras and luneau calling it now
Marner should leave, and then win a cup, like Kessel, Bozak, Kadri. The reality is Sheldon Keefe is a terrible coach. A good coach doesn't allow a star like marner to play the way he plays in the playoffs.
I don't think your gonna have any problem getting any of them to wave the clause if they have a chance on a competitive team. Nobody wants to play in scamada anyway
If you can't trade Marner, you basically just let his contract come off the books even if you lose him for nothing. You also let Tavares' contract come off the books the same way.
Enough hate on Marner. The guy has 50 points in 57 playoff games. Matthews, meanwhile, has done *nothing* in the playoffs. Talk about a guy who doesn't step up and waits around for something to happen...that's Matthews!! Crosses the blueline, dishes off to Marner or Nylander or whoever to actually make a play, then figure skates around the O-zone trying to get open for one of his teammates to feed him the puck with a perfect seam pass for a high-chance one-timer. He *never* beats a defender one-on-one carrying the puck!! NEVER! Never even tries! And when those open cross-ice seam passes are no longer there come playoff time...POOF! He disappears like the proverbial rabbit in the hat. But go ahead, trade Marner. But Leafs Nation's 'MVP' never sniffs 50 goals again. And unless he changes *his* game, he'll still fall flat in the playoffs.
Interesting take.
I dont think marner is as bad as you all are saying. He isnt worth his contract but tons of guys arent
THE WHOLE NHL PAY STRUCKTURE IS UNBELIEVABLEY INSANE!!!!
You cannot have a team leader in the playoffs who will not commit totally .. he is a cancer
@@stanclare-sh6vi he isnt the leader is he? Isnt tavaras your leader?
@@stanclare-sh6vialso refusing to speak to the media last night with that A on his jersey… strip that shit off. That’s not a leader.
@@stanclare-sh6vi yes indeed. When he is asked to do something he replys I CAN SIR 😅🤣😂
Matthews won't be happy if they try to move Marner. A more likely scenario would be to keep Marner and offer Tavares a chance to go somewhere to win a Stanley Cup. Matthews is happy, and the fans are happy when the Leafs give him the "C," something Leaf Nation has wanted for some time. Marner may not get the 10.9m contract he covets, but he'll get a small raise to stay with Matthews, likely with some nice bonuses as incentive.
Matthews understands hockey is a business. Marner & Tavares need to go, especially Marner.
The Leafs problem is not just that Mitch Marner needs to go. The Leafs problem is that there are no $11 Million/year players on Toronto. It's that simple.
Na its Mitch.
You're right. And Nylander is closest.
@@tonylloy327 Matthews is better than Nylander.
@@willyupshaw As an all-around player...and a guy with some grit in his character...I respectfully disagree.
Isnt tavs 11/yr? Why do u need 11/yr players? 1 or 2 superstars wont save the team nothing will
Why on earth would a team sign 4 players making half the cap each with no movement clauses? That's a recipe for disaster if 1 or 2 don't live up up the money. That's insanity
More than half once the extensions kick in.
If love to see Marner go to the Habs and light the leafs up next year. I'm not a fan of either team but it would be beautiful to see
As a Habs fan, would definitely like to have someone of Marner's caliber on the team. Matheson + Harris/Struble + Anderson as a starter offer maybe?
They're not trading a potenetial 100 point player within the division.
@@einstein5996Geeezzusss dude, are you kidding? As a Habs fan I'd never give up Matheson AND Harris for Marner. And honestly, I'd rather not have Marner at all. He doesn't fit the character mold or age progression of the team, nor the salary structure. The only guy out of the core four I'd want might be Nylander. And even he (the best of the bunch, character-wise) would wreak havoc on Montreal's salary structure. Nope, the Leafs can keep them all, thank you.
Go ahead and beat off the the thought of it, but it's not going to happen.
@@tonylloy327 you sound actually very stupid and delusional
Marner is waiving that no-movement clause no doubt about it. He doesn't want to stay in TO in that spotlight & it's clear after not addressing the media after the game 7 loss. Also it's time for both sides to move on & judging from Steve Dangles podcast there are signs from even last year that Marner was ready to move on. Former GM Dubas was ready to make the deal to move Marner but was overruled by Shannahan.
Why doesnt Marner use the offseason to add size to his frame....... hes afriad to play gritty playoff hockey because hes the size of a 16 year old boy!
It's crazy how Leafs fans blame Marner and say he's the one that can't stand up to playoff hockey when Matthews is there on the same team. How does he get a pass? Heart? Did you not watch Matthews bow out of a game they were trailing and didn't even dress for 2 elimination games? The doctors didn't pull him from the game, he pulled himself and got backed up by the doctors. If he chooses to play, the doctors would be unlikely to stop him.
You can't move Matthews.
Look at matthews playoff stats and then compare them with mcdavid and draiisaitil playoff numbers
It’s crazy to me not one leaf player stopped pasta form getting net front blazing speed and just let him undress Sammy
he was marners man
@@billbalyx8799 that's true and to me all the Leafs players look like they are preparing to have somebody else hustle, and pass them the puck.
I remember watching Theoren Fleury as a kid... smallest player in the league but man did he have heart to match all his skill. Marner is an undeniable talent, puts up some great numbers during the regular season but he's a no show come playoff time and his attitude sucks. I think Nylander is an underrated playmaker, and he's got a great shot. If the Leafs can get away from Marner, Nylander showed this season that he can put up the numbers if given the chance to and he's been our best playoff performer. More than that we need a coach that can motivate his players and not shelter them from criticism or hold them accountable for their play, instead of babysitting them.
I live in Toronto, and it's the fans that are the problem. Toronto fans will abandon any other team when they start to do poorly, Jays, Raptors, Argos, TFC. However they are so hardcore they will NEVER abandon the leafs for some reason. IT gives the players no reason to be cup hungry when they know their fan base will always sell out their HUGELY overpriced tickets. Fans need to stop showing up and supporting this year after year after year. They need to know their money is on the line, but that NEVER happens with leaf fans. They'll always ALWAYS give in for some reason. WE are the problem.
Absolutely 100% correct. Leaf fans are suckers. They must love to feel the pain. Many professional teams are owned by individuals. They have money and most important have "Huge Egos". They WANT a Stanley Cup. They won't and don't accept losing for too long. They do what has to be done to win. Obviously Leaf ownership only cares for the bottom line. Incredibly Leaf fans just suck it all in. Well you deseve what you get. You support it. 🚫🚫🚫
Injuries and illness plagued the Leafs short playoff run. Marner is a good hockey player. Nylander showed great offense. But the defense and playoff tenacity was seriously lacking. A coach has to have the guts to bench star players (in the regular season) that are not demonstrating the will and fight to win. The Leafs need that drive. Knies had it. Tavares even had it. Injuries may have played a factor but it didn’t look great for Nylander (defense) and everyone else.
the fans don't like him..... his teammates don't like him.... if he will not take a trade put him on LTIR for the season
lol… you’re stupid.
You can't send someone on a Robidas Island vacation JUST BECAUSE! So far, no one sent on a vacation there has ever played in the NHL again (Enroth returned to Europe but everyone else retired).
are you in the room do you hear that from all the negative comment on these site you know a lot about hockey did you make it to pewee lol
I'd tell Marner if he doesn't give a list of teams he'd accept to be traded to, they won't play him much in his contract year. He held Leaf fans by the cojones with his first big contract no home discount why should the Leafs be easy on him again?or find an injury and place him on the LTIR if he doesn't play he won't get the contract he wants. Play hardball with him
They need to draft top 1 and 2 defencemen, I have no problem keeping Marner. It'd be like Colrado getting rid of Rantaanen in 2020 or Tampa getting rid of Kucherov in 2019. They are good reasons to keep Marner.
Marner is also UFA after next season.
I don’t think it matters who plays for the Leafs. They haven’t won since 1967.. they’ve had 57 years to get it right. I’ve seen Doug Gilmore, Mat Sundin, and plenty of other players try to win it with the Leafs. I doubt losing a star player will make your team better.
I would far rather see Morgan Reilly go than Mitch Marner; however, Reilly has a no trade clause through 2028 so that is a pipe dream as well. I'd also rather see Brodie go but wait, another no trade clause. It seems like the Leafs Brass were a little desparate at times as it now restricts what they can do. Marner moves the offense better than most so, maybe pick up some defencemen as they did this season and leave Marner where he is. You seem to be blaming him for one missed assignment when he has done so much to make this Leafs team great. Shame on you!!
Exactly Reilly is trash so is all the maple leafs D In all honesty no one would be talking about the forwards if the D could help out and take some pressure off the forwards just saying
Marner is both weak between the ears (not picking up his man) and weak physically. Boo him, run him out of town and he'll waive his clause. He's a floater, perimeter guy who wants to sit back and get easy points. He has skill but doesn't carry the team, doesn't drive play by himself and frankly if you don't see it then you haven't watched enough of him.
He's great given the space & room regular season affords. Come playoffs, he is easily dismissed as has been proven over the last few years...
🙏✌️🍻
You know who's also a "floater, perimeter guy who wants to sit back and get easy points"? MATTHEWS. The only difference is that in his case the "easy points" are goals. His signature play is to cross the blueline with the puck, IMMEDIATELY dish it to one of his skilled wingers or D, then float around trying to get open for a perfect seam pass to one-time into a half-empty net. When do you *ever* see him beat a defender one-on-one with a move, or drive to the net with the puck?? And the other half of your statement goes equally for Matthews too: "He has skill (shooting) but he doesn't carry the team, doesn't drive play by himself, and frankly if you don't see it you haven't watched enough of him". Nylander is the best of 'the core four'. By a long shot.
I don’t see how any of this is marners fault. He plays with more heart than Mathews any day of the week. Toronto fans will blame anyone. You guys were hating on samsonov and he comes back and saves the team in the regular season. Toronto runs there goalies like dogs and the fans and the team expect them to just play. You can’t pin anything on just one person. It’s a team game you win and lose as one
@@tonylloy327 if you think Nylander is the best you on some crack he doesn't back check or go hard to the net and his passing is mid
Remember when you said Phil Kessel would never win a cup? Relax. Toronto has a very good team, and Mitch Marner is a big part of that.
I love Marner! The guy is dynamite!
JT Miller taking over
No one wants marner he’s too expensive
He only has next year on his deal.
Oilers pick up Perry ( one Stanley Cup, one MVP physical presence) Boston picks up Maroon ( 3 Stanley Cups , physical presence ) Boston picks up Geekie ( solid 2 way player with 26 goals this season ) Toronto ? Zzzzzzzzz They never seem to understand what they need
Tavares Reilly and brodie can go, theres 24 million "leafs fans" are good with that. We'll take our chances with Matthews marner and nylander with a supporting cast that helps
Agree 100% with your comments regarding JT Miller. Exactly who I wish we could get in Toronto.
im sure you will do freaking GREAT in the WORLD BALLERINA CHAMPIONSHIPS MITCH
Using Marner as scapegoat, leaf’s need overhaul
Oh my goodness. I can remember as a 10yo, (or thereabouts early 70s,) the Leafs and my Blues having some battles. So whenever the Blues are "out" I always pull for The Leafs to have postseason success, but it just does not happen. With the weight of the Nation, and of half of Canada's population, and the scrutiny of Canadian media, they just can't do it. I really and honestly feel for The Leaf's fans. I know it hurts.
Leafs won’t be any better after trades is some of the core . Drop Bertuzzi , let him go back to Boston , he’ll even Domi ! HELL GIVE EM MITCH MARGIN !
If it does not wave his trade clause, you bench him randomly for many multiples of games, you make sure the coach rides his ass on the bench publicly and embarrasses the crap out of him, and you do anything you can to drive down his value. He wants to make us pay will make him pay.
leafs fan here, I hope he doesn't wave the nmc. This loss wasn't even close to his fault...
For any of you pointing to his playoff numbers being on par with the other core players, take a look at his point totals in games 5-7 of the playoffs. That’ll tell you all you need to know.
12 goals in 7 games from the leafs. The whole team shit the bed and everyone keeps droning on about Marner. Nobody did anything good on that entire team, Nobody! I said it before and I'll say it again. The fans have a bipolar psychosis when it comes to this team. The Fans and Media put so much pressure on this team the players have nightmares about losing. Things people fear the most usually happen because subconciously, they are doing things to make them happen or their fear paralyzes them from preventing it from happening.
Whoever leaves is gonna win a cup within a couple of years. Leaf players always win a cup once they leave.
Thats a tradition!
I’ll tell you that for free. Bringing back old canucks memories
Man, to watch Sportsnet couple weeks ago, Bruins were washed up. All calling for Mitch to go should be careful. Have to make it to the playoffs to win cup. I think Tavares should be gone, supposed to be the leader but don't even notice him out there.
It's true that a lot of playoff points mean nothing except another point. When you get three assists in a 6-2 game it's not nearly as important as 1 goal in a 2-1 game.
He’s struggled yes ! But it’s not all his fault.
I love Toronto. Great city. But if I was a hockey player, I'd think twice about playing there. Their fans and media are relentless and I think that pressure adds to the problem.
Its not just Marner the whole team was bad as well as Samsonov. I wanted to believe but hes just not very good.
Lol Marner comes out of the bench , Pasta realises it and make the play they ve been making for years , so it s not Marner to blame there , it s the coaching , the D guys who should be able to recognise that it s coming. I mean Marner is definitely not as good as he thinks , but blaming him solely ??? You guys are just blind , and funny to hear all those trade rumors about him , the guy as a non move clause in his contract. Matthews is a big problem for this team , i mean look at his playoffs ffs , oh and yeah sorry the poor princes was ill ???? 4 Panthers players played last year's playoffs with broken bones , these guys are warriors , and that s the reason why the leafs will never get a deep run with this team. How stupid do you have to be to put 50 % of your salary cap on 4 players and still expect to build a competitive team around them ???? And even if they somehow trade Marner , who will pay him 11 millions knowing he s not gonna produce much , i mean he s a 30 goals guy , you can get that for much cheaper from a guy like Vatrano who made 37 as a freakin Ducks this year and this kind of guy will be playoffs effective for not even half the price ............
Business wise, those three playoff games brought a lot of money to the Leafs coffers, that is really all that matters to the mansgement. There will not be any earth shattering changes for next year, TSN will still see them in the finals next September but come May they will be playing golf. All is well in Toronto.
With the investment of Nelander, you don’t really need Mitch. It would be nice to trade Tavares, and pick up a first line defender and 2nd line center but that’s just me.
It's pretty easy to make life very difficult for someone with a NMC, and get them to waive it. Just look at how Burke dealt with Kaberle.
Lots of ways to get people to waive no moves. Bench them. Put them on the 4th line so they cant stack up points and get anything on their next contract etc. Plus would you wanna go to work if you knew they didn't want you there?
Why is everyone so hard on him? They call him the invisible leaf but he literally lead the team in playoff points in 2023 and this year it was the whole team. Sure, he only had 3 this post season but the best player on the team had 4...
Being slightly worse than the best player is OK, but not when that best player didn't contribute enough either.
@bbb462cid yeah, but I'm saying if that's the case then why call him out specifically
@@leehaase2230 I don't know why, but if you're saying it's not fair, what's fair have to do with it?
@bbb462cid well, maybe that's not the best word for it, my point is that Marner isn't the problem and getting rid of him won't fix anything. I don't understand why they've singled him out, it doesn't make any sense as far as I can tell. But go ahead and get him out of Toronto, I'd like to see him play for a better team anyways tbh.
@@leehaase2230 Well that's pretty true but scapegoats will be found, and Marner has a bad rep with fans
Not to mention Nylander just stood there like a pylon.
The problem with the Leafs is simple. They’re owned by a conglomerate, not a hockey fan.
That’s right…. And they make a lot of money on Ticket sales, concessions & Jerseys. They’re more concerned with putting out a flashy high scoring regular season team because it sells & it will ALWAYS get the fans excited. The regular season has been meaningless for awhile now. Look at the Bruins last year. Playoff hockey is a different game. It’s played much tighter, less open ice, more physical, less room to maneuver. Management needs to ID players who have the skills to play that game. You won’t have a team full of goal scorers but you might have a chance at a cup.
Marner has the chance to do the funniest fucking thing imaginable
He's already a Leaf
I’m more surprised Sheldon Keefe wasn’t fired after choking to Toronto’s francophone brothers back in 2021. They were literally HANDED an entire division AND THEY STILL LOST. To a team that wouldn’t have made the playoffs at all in the current format.
If Keefe was gone, he wouldn't have been the one addressing the media. Will Marner waive his NTC? Doubt it! I will be surprised if they change anything. It was a hell of a series and to take it to game 7 and OT! Leafs fought hard! Game 7 was some GREAT HOCKEY!!
The question will be how much the Leafs have to eat of that contract. Eleven mill for a guy who does maybe around 6 mil work, if that. We'll see. Condolences Leaf fans
The guys had 25 pts in his last 25 playoff games look at his stats !! He’s becoming the scape goat because the leafs shat the bed . It wasn’t his fault whatsoever 🤦🏻♂️😊
On that OT goal, is that Marner's man to pick up? The winger's defensive responsibility is to cover the other team's Dman... that was a bad read by Toronto's defense.
Yes, yes it is. Good call.
Even my kids say that all Marner is good for is giving away the puck. If Marner and 'I choke in the finals' Matthews are gone next year I'll look forward to that room in the salary cap.
Goalie standing on goal line, didn’t move, Riley flat footed. No drive to win, not just Marner
REBUILD THE REBUILD!
I think Marchand said after the game 7 “Just beleaf”
You’ve made quite the leap of faith…Leafs in the 2025 playoffs.
he should have a "No Tantrum on The Bench" clause. That was hard to watch, a grown ass man acting like a 5 year old. J.T. Miller used to act like this but he really has turned his attitude around and is much better player now because of it. J.T. is soo Zen now.
Marner should play for a USA team. Islanders, Rangers, Devils
NO HE SHOULD PLAY FOR THE WOMENS RINGETTE TEAM
In the "core 4 era" Marner leads the team in playoff points, and leads the forwards in playoff +/-. Clearly he is the problem....
Agreed Marner has to go and so does Tavares, T.J. Brodie, Morgan Reilly, Samsonov, Keefe, Lilgren and maybe even Shanahan. Edmonton and Benoit just proved they are the new number one and two on the defense, Woll is the next number one in goal. I am and will continue to be a Leaf fan. I’ve been one my entire life and remember our last cup parade. Boston has been the same team since 1964. Sure the players are different but the mindset is still the same. Work every shift like it’s your last and play every game like it’s your first, in other words let your last shift be the best one you ever played and be as enthusiastic in every game as you were in your first game. Boston has always had a very “workman like “ attitude over the years. They have always had one or two “star” players and a supporting crew of grinders. Works well. We could learn from it.
If the all time points leader can be traded, mitchy can be traded. All you need to ask is this, is he worth what you are paying him? Any player that has to ask for an A on his jersey is playing for the name on the back of his jersey instead of the front.
Who would want to play for Toronto, with decades of bad luck behind you? No thanks, I’d run and not walk. Amazing that this team is worth the most out of 32 teams.
The big problem is that Marner was given a no movement clause. Dubas !!!!
That was not Marners man. There was two defensive players back.
The Leafs are in the same situation that the Raptors were in before they were able to win a championship. Tough decisions have to be made by the organization.
I do think that Shanahan should go because his roster to get good players but I think , I think they should get better defencemen and better goaltender. The mental that the Leafs still have the Ballard mentality yet in 2024 and on. They will have their balance sheet and get rid of Tavares and a few more to ease their pay check. Rebuild ftom scratch.
Let's be honest how long has the core 4 been together none of them have got it done none of them hockey is a team game how dare you single out an individual you get your ass out on that ice and do better
I would stay and collect my paycheck annually, losing in the first round. Less wear and tear on your body, then retire comfortably.
Players that are unwanted by their team will usually waive, otherwise they’ll get scratched until they waive. Marner and Tavares need to go, that opens so much cap space and opportunity to change the outlook of this team.
have to figure out how to make the players that are lagging become fucking BEASTS, starting with the last four weeks of the season; hitting the weight room, running, everything you know the drill, whatever it takes to becomes tanks rolling into the post season, and I believe that it has to start with the players in the locker room, the guys that are on the ice every night, the guys that you have to look into their eyes and know that you let them down . . . as Honda says in S.W.A.T., sometimes you might have to get a little dirty behind the bus . . .
Toronto Maple Laughs ⛳️
The leafs will move Marner and likely somewhere down the line he'll end up with a team that will win with him. A team that knows how to use him. Its an old Leaf story.
but mitch marner has 2 goals in his last 16 playoff games. hes on fire
Toronto needs to try and move a couple players, You can't have 5 players taking up 65% of the cap, you dont have a team, and clearly it hasn't worked.
Coaching staff needs to go need a tougher coach with better coaching skills for playoffs sit star players when they are not playing up to potential I dont think the core 4 needs to be split up just a tougher coach.
Ever team, organization calls for heads when you lose, everyone of them. It’s not just the leafs don’t be that stupid to think that way.
Marner’s not at fault samsonov and Reilly did not do his job
You wanna move Marner you bring Babs back as coach and watch how fast he high tails it out of Toronto.
58 yrs since I last saw the Leafs win the cup
Not 16's job to chase him into the corner.
Run out his contract and see about getting him to waive it at the end of the next season and trade him for some top D.
Just get rid of them all at fire sale clearance prices. Just watch as a good organization like VGK turns them all into champions or unleashes their full potential