Learned WTF for about 6 years, but i support ITF because WTF removed too much of original TKD moves in order to join the olympics.
@confusedcaveman56786 жыл бұрын
Now I want to see them fight according to ITF sparring rules.
@AzriAzhari7 жыл бұрын
*lol* If it's ITF sparring rules, it would be so deadly for the WTF guy since no protection for the chest and the stomach and the ITF guy would have higher chance to punch the WTF guy in the face.
@typicalchineseguy58187 жыл бұрын
wouldn't affect the outcome since ITF isn't full contact. but your right once they allowed head shots the WTF guy would have a tattoo punched into his head.
@russelloriely63437 жыл бұрын
you two have it totally backwards. You have to get inside the kick for punch to work at all. ITF would have his head kicked off before he was in range to punch. Only way he would win is if WTF guy was disqualified for excessive force (which is likely i guess).
@ericnelson91357 жыл бұрын
go watch some old kickboxing video's there basicly ITF but full contact. then tell me how come the end up inside punching to the head? even in WTF they end up in clinches that's the point where they would get punched in the head. just because they don't go full contact in the tournaments doesn't mean they can't. so long as both fighters are fighting by the same rules.
@russelloriely63437 жыл бұрын
i guess your right about the clinch but WTF never trains soft (and you never want to be in a clinch anyway). There is that whole muscle memory thing to consider. If your muscles don't train to hit hard than they wont remember to hit hard. ITF also don't remember to combo because fight stops to often.
@ericnelson91357 жыл бұрын
Congratulations WTF. Now try with ITF rules.
@juanp17935 жыл бұрын
Yes
@user-rl5kg8fn9z3 жыл бұрын
WTF will get clapped
@abrahamm.sugondo55623 жыл бұрын
@@abrahamm.sugondo5562 what are the differences in rules that would change the fight? I dont know much about Taekwondo that's why im asking
@johonanandrewgomes75933 жыл бұрын
@@johonanandrewgomes7593 in ITF there is no body gaurds and you can punch the face I'm not sure about the rest because Ive only done WTF
@michaellovinon34673 жыл бұрын
@@abrahamm.sugondo5562 I think it just depends on the type of master you have and how well you practice, like most of the problems for WTF practitioner sparring with ITF rules is getting used to being punched in the face.
@michaellovinon34673 жыл бұрын
My two daughters (11 and 14 years old) train in the ITF since 4 years ago. They don't train with contact. But three times in the last year they have used it successfully in the street, even in situations with no physical advantage. I have to thank ITF Tae Kwon Do for this.
@mdldl6 жыл бұрын
You need to relocate
@technickelnet Жыл бұрын
@@technickelnet lol
@sol2516 Жыл бұрын
you should probably relocate
@elvirrrr Жыл бұрын
Mad respect! 👊🥋🇰🇷
@SonOfVenus9249411 ай бұрын
Reading GOH from webtoon and then i want to see this shit
@pajardigun4853 жыл бұрын
You aren't alone 😂
@JURO768KUJO3 жыл бұрын
You're not alone
@Clavales3 жыл бұрын
@some dude with depression and anxiety taekkyeon
@Clavales3 жыл бұрын
I watched the anime i was waiting for the triple kick 😂
@Nasu3703 жыл бұрын
Same 😂
@drsauceeyhasucovered40603 жыл бұрын
i used to do both... started as a ITF hwoarang and now im doing wtf and i have to say do not let the look of the armour and the acrobatics fool ya wtf is mean. i have been beaten more in wtf than itf.. and the no punch to the face rule makes it difficult for a guy like me with long arms. the protectors makes it that people kick more and hit you more. in itf every kick had a toll so all of a sudden your fighting style seems to change a bit because of the damage you sustain. I also while practicing ITF made the mistake to think wtf was a joke but they are both taekwondo the wtf guys have a different aproach to training and sparring. in some way they are more athlete's and they want to take there abilities to new heights. ITF was more about the martial art and the DO (way of taekwondo). that you could take your entire life becoming better. WTF because of how competitive they are this guys work out and train so different. if you want to sit behind a keyboard complain try them both and you will know the true differences and you will understand my words.
@jangonauta7 жыл бұрын
Same story for me too bro completely understand
@slayerseb82114 жыл бұрын
Haha even I’ve done both. If you’ve watched naruto, you’ll understand. WTF is like the Uchiha clan. Competitive and ruthless. ITF is like the Senju clan. Cultural and patient.
@kudos66424 жыл бұрын
Jango Nauta Yeah The blue fighter Is a joke though. Whining and complaining like it’s a soccer match. ITF teaches much more to train the warrior mindset.
@shaynemc75334 жыл бұрын
The moment I see a TKD fight start and the arms dangle instead of being a guard I drop out. Use your arms goddamn it. Better yet fight full contact with ITF rules of punching. I am 2. kup under ITF and WTF. I have to say that I favor the style I learned under ITF rules. It feels more complete as a martial art. Still not appliccable without cross training for self defense but ascfor your protective reflexes in combat you are better off than WTF. I am a heavy weight (100 kg) so fancy acrobatics aren't for me anyways.
@pst53454 жыл бұрын
Trained under ITF rules for nine years but just today quit my job of almost two years as a WTF Instructor. I'm going back to ITF. WTF teaches explosiveness, more kicking dexterity and a more competitive mental attitude. However, explosiveness doesn't necessarily translate to power, and a competitive mindset is different to a combative mindset. The primary reason I train martial arts is self-defence, self-discipline and mental toughness, which is what ITF excels in teaching. We have arms. It doesn't make sense not to use them.
@SIMUL4CR43 жыл бұрын
I am from WTF. Yes, unfair to ITF.
@AlbertWilsonW8 жыл бұрын
I agree with you and I practiced tkd wtf.
@mandragonist8 жыл бұрын
Every single hand-hand style allows punching to the face in a match. You're gonna say it's unfair since BOTH fighters can do that? They can still punch the body. There are no rules on either side saying you can't.
@greenbeast46488 жыл бұрын
Jay-Ian Pabilan Itf, Wtf, it doesn't matter. WTF fighters move more freely. Just because their hands are down, doesn't make them bad fighters, it's what's comfortable. There are no rules saying you can't keep your hands up. These fighters need to condition their feet. As a WTF fighter, some of my upper class-men were surprised when I didn't get hurt when I kept hitting their elbows. I was surprised too, but I knew my conditioning was working. And made their elbows feel sore since i would go 50% lmao. WTF is not weak, just needs to wake up.
@greenbeast46488 жыл бұрын
+Jay-Ian Pabilan actually in the old days, in the 80s, we trained without letting our guard down. but since it has become more sport, letting guard down is to lure opponent to make a move and more relax to execute faster kicks. personally i train with my guard up. reason is i am older, slower now and no more fancy kicks. what i can do as a young man, now i cannot. i only limit. a few simpler kicks with lots of power, a lot more hand techniques.
@AlbertWilsonW8 жыл бұрын
Jay-Ian Pabilan then you would know that wtf fighters train for power as well
@greenbeast46488 жыл бұрын
if you are trying to show the difference, you can not use just one rule system, because it gives that style an advantage. let them loose by both rules system and see who is the better fighter. The ITF fighter would total dominate the fight if he would be allowed to use his fighting system..I have seen a lot of these videos and it always WTF rules, are they to afraid of loosing to the ITF?
@arrowheadmartialart7 жыл бұрын
Michael Tippett That still doesn't work. In order to really test it, it should be a no rule full contact fight. If that were the case I could use any throwing and self defense techniques I wanted and not just kicking and punching. Kicking and punching isn't the entire martial art
@googlemyfist1147 жыл бұрын
Michael Tippett. The only thing that wasn't allowed was shots to the head w/ the fist. If you host the match with "balanced rules"(punches to the face allowed) then it'll still boil down to whose the better fighter. You're trying to say that system is better and not the fighter!
@jeremybrown96117 жыл бұрын
That WTF fighter is great,even in ITF rules he would be tough
@RecklessBros5 жыл бұрын
Combine the rules I believe. Put boxing gloves on and allow face and body punches. But still score kicks in a similar way. Take away all electronic scoring and score it like any other combat sport.
@UnleashedTraining1014 жыл бұрын
@Taekwondo invented 1930 ITF style invented in 1959 your so arrogant calling people morons and ignorant everyone entitled to their opinions. I have done both WTF and ITF so i know my shit and there is no difference in kick strength there is definitely the same amount of contact plus ITF get to use punches. I back both styles but ITF does take the cake.
@TJGlen-Gaul4 жыл бұрын
ITF the best!!!
@juanarielgomez62056 жыл бұрын
Nah no lo es
@DavidVallejo3372 жыл бұрын
@@DavidVallejo337 Yah, sí lo es. La WTF es como esgrimir con los pies. La ITF es mejor en una pelea. Quizás la ITF sea lo suficientemente buena para los Juegos Olímpicos
@speakstheobvious57692 жыл бұрын
@@speakstheobvious5769 no
@DavidVallejo3372 жыл бұрын
@@DavidVallejo337 Jawohl
@speakstheobvious57692 жыл бұрын
@@speakstheobvious5769 ?
@DavidVallejo3372 жыл бұрын
I'm an old Wtf nerd. 1981-2000. But I would like to have learned itf too. There are some "twists" to the kicks and how they're delivered that I'm secretly jealous of. But now I'm 49, live on a small island in Thailand so maybe in my next life 😊
@heavymeddle283 жыл бұрын
cheers to that bro! Please hit subscribe brother.
@vincentvlegaspi3 жыл бұрын
@@vincentvlegaspi subscribed and happy for your upload my friend 😊
@heavymeddle283 жыл бұрын
If you are in Thailand, try Muay Thai in Phuket
@mizutxko2 ай бұрын
I was a Blackbelt in ITF and I also currently a Blackbelt in WTF and I believe ITF is better for sparring as i was always in the heavy weight category because I am shorter but I could use my hand techniques to get in and score against taller opponents and WTF is good but due to the fact you can only punch to the chest to score it is a lot harder to gain an advantage and when you look at WTF fighters they are tall where ITF has a larger variety of fighters of all sizes. There seems to be a lot of negative comments towards ITF and I have seen fighters of all grades sparring and people think ITF is semi contact all the time when it isn't and ITF don't wear chest protectors. People who have done both styles would probably have a similar opinion. WTF is in the olympics while ITF can't be because of ITF, TAGB which are pretty much follow the same rules aren't allowed in the olympics for political reasons. The Olympic committee won't allow poomsae in the olympics which is mainly what is practiced in clubs and sparring attracts people in joining although there is a England poomsae squad.
@andyjackson53047 жыл бұрын
According to official ITF rules, it is only light contact. I know that some gyms practice full contact though.
@J_Grisak3 ай бұрын
ITF fighter under WTF rules, Of course the ITF fighter would lose. A major component of ITF fighting is punching to the head, which isn't allowed in WTF.
@at87006 жыл бұрын
Both we're actually quite excellent. You rarely see such a close match up like this when it comes to different regulations and/or style match ups. Even though the ITF fighter was fighting in a different rule set, he did really well. I think it goes to show that even though both use different rules, it's still Taekwondo at the core. Great fight, thanks for uploading.
@Xayvong7 жыл бұрын
im here to say that i respect both two distinct styles WTF and ITF. It doesnt matter who wins or loses, all different types of martial arts are perfect. Its just a matter of question of who and what are the capabilities of that person. Now if you guys are gonna keep going about which style is better youre looking at it wrong both styles are perfect in combat both used in the military its just depends on how they utilize the style if you know how to adapt in combat whatever what martial art you are practicing will be perfect. WTF sparring has a different focus just because they only show kicking that doesnt mean in self defense they dont use fist or takedowns to bring down an enemy this sparring is a sport not combat. while for ITF its sparring is more focused in combat so most of the time its self defense focused like kickboxing but all this doesnt matter as long as we respect other martial arts and martial artist because if you dont youre a shame in the name of MARTIAL ART FOR FORGETTING THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT IN MARTIAL ARTS : RESPECT. STOP THE BASHING BETWEEN ITF AND WTF.
@kairumasamune19927 жыл бұрын
1. Fact: Both of them is a good fighter. Any one of them would KO-ed their opponent if they made a mistake. 2. I practice both ITFand WTF. ITF: Self Defence+Art WTF: Sports 3. Basic is the same. Its all depends on the practitioner and how their instructor trained them. Taekwando=ITF/WTF Love both of them.
@johanjefri20483 жыл бұрын
Ambos son para defensa personal
@DavidVallejo3372 жыл бұрын
@@DavidVallejo337 nah one of them is for the Olympic taekwondo the ITF is self defence they both counter offensive
@Anthony99user2 жыл бұрын
@@Anthony99user mm no
@DavidVallejo337 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidVallejo337 the WTF one is Olympic one but if you want a street fight ITF would be better
@Anthony99user Жыл бұрын
@@DavidVallejo337 If you in a street fight ITF is way better
@Anthony99user Жыл бұрын
Eso fue wtf vs wtf. Los que hacemos TAEKWON-DO ITF usamos los puños sea a la cara o a la zona media. Quiero creer que eso fue un show. Y antes de irme aclarar que solo hay 1 Taekwon-do y es el ITF. EL ORIGINAL, el que creo el general Choi Hong Hi.
@gastonvillafane53664 жыл бұрын
Hola, práctico taekwondo WTF de manera más marcial pero tienes razón el ITF es el original, tambien la WTF a deportisado mucho el TKD
@josue78673 жыл бұрын
yo decia que tiene las manos de adorno no uso los puños no hizo amagues hago tkd itf desde el 2003,el de wtf peleo bien pero si el de itf usaba los puños seguro ganaba
@jonitkditf123 жыл бұрын
No es por la asociación, sino del practicante, aunque también estoy de acuerdo que le prohibieron algunas cosas al de ITF
@ricardobenitez50022 жыл бұрын
El itf no es original ambos son taekwondo amigo y la batalla estaba igualada por un poco inclinada hacia el itf pero nada mas
@DavidVallejo3372 жыл бұрын
@@erosricciardulli9467 para mí ambos lo son
@DavidVallejo3372 жыл бұрын
i love how wtf spins and then falls down on his own, love it...
@MercenaryFox8 жыл бұрын
haha
@DanielGarcia-dd7vu8 жыл бұрын
***** A LOT of mistakes, imo :v
@MercenaryFox8 жыл бұрын
***** But it's not one, i mean, check almost every video of WTF "knockouts" or highlights... Granted those kicks are insanely effective if you're fighting one person and if, and that's a big *IF* you manage to land the shot to the face or head but after that most practitioners land on their back or face ... i've never got used to that, then again, i dont practice TKD WTF so fuck me in the eye socket,i guess...
@MercenaryFox8 жыл бұрын
+MercenaryFox LOL!!
@meirandreielnas14828 жыл бұрын
+MercenaryFox hey i joind TKD WTF it do's not hurt at all.
@meirandreielnas14828 жыл бұрын
Good fight! But somehow is a unfair game in my opinion, it is WTF vs ITF but they used the WTF regulation:-)
@delaynomore5248 жыл бұрын
Only difference, no punching to the face but you can kick it. Seems fair either way
@greenbeast46488 жыл бұрын
NO THAT IS NOT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. in wtf you can connect and fall to the ground and it will still be valid, in ITF you can not fall to the ground. in wtf the fight stop on each point scored. In ITF the fight is continuous and only stops if theres an infraction. in wtf your arms are useless. in ITF you can punch body and face, either on the floor or jumping. those are the main differences, and theres more. if they used ITF regulations. the WTF guy would get his face filled with punches. then you would see that there is a very big difference. it would make more sense to use ITF rules, adding tools for both fighters and not wtf rules where it gets more limited.
@Liquidcadmus8 жыл бұрын
Liquidcadmus wtf allows punching but not to the face and besides this fighter was fast, if he fought under ITF ruling, then the result will end the same. Wtf fighter have fast punches and they always land on a chest guard perfectly. All he has to do is slide in and bam instant point. Not those ITF punches that look like sloppy brawl punches
@greenbeast46488 жыл бұрын
Liquidcadmus in wtf you don't stop and go, the only time they stop is when the fighter falls but point is valid, or if a clinch has gone on too long. Get your shit straight
@greenbeast46488 жыл бұрын
if will use the speed to their advantage
@thattrollagen8 жыл бұрын
??: Renewal Taekwondo.....Triple kick!
@xenovia54363 жыл бұрын
U cultured man
@r0v3r713 жыл бұрын
@@r0v3r71 x2
@thecrackt34723 жыл бұрын
I was a 3rd degree Black Belt in ITF Taekwon-Do, and I was originally planning to keep doing, just for exercise, but the pandemic stopped me.
@notmyrealchannel5595 ай бұрын
I trained kyokushin karate for 18 years, and boxing for 8 years. For 3 years I trained ITF tkd to spice up my foot techiqes. With kyo backgrounds itf tkd with boxing are a good choice. Last year a went back to the kyo dojo and started to train at an mma gym. I very thankful for itf, it helped me a lot, to land various kick combinations, I blowed my kyo training partners mind. And itf has more punches which are helpful. Never underestimate punching, if you're trying to win in a k1 or mma match.
@rolandvitai22124 жыл бұрын
I've trained ITF and WTF. And certainly can say ITF is much much better. But I have to say on ITF version I've been trained by Korean. It was much more than full contact. We trained how to use TKD on a street. We used throws, grapplings, punches and kicks. I've been on one tournament and I've broke a nose to the guy with punch. And also, unfortunately, I used it on a street as a defence, and it was very successfully. On WTF we were trained only for tournaments. There were no creativity. And we were equipped with full armor. On ITF we had only gloves. No halmets and other stuff. Also on WTF we had semi contact trainings. When I came on my first WTF training, and when they saw my skills they put me in the best group and sad to me that they have plans for me, and I will be very successefull in TKD. They wanted me to go on tournaments. And that was not the reason why I trained TKD. I trained for a few years and I stopped just because I never learned something new on WTF. So if you're training or you have trained ITF, and it is semi or no contact, than it is not ITF. ITF is much harder than WTF. ITF is a martial art, and WTF is just a sport. And I had a chance to prove the power of ITF on the street many times, and also I had a chance to compare it.
@adrijanohafner80067 жыл бұрын
Adrijano Hafner I train WTF, and I have the fortune to be training in a dojang where we learn to use a wide variety of techniques like you just said... I don't think one is more complete than the other... I believe most WTF academies only focus on tournaments so they forget Taekwondo is the art of fighting with your feet AND hands. And... unfortunately, I can see a lot of students not taking seriously the poomsae and all the trainings we do on the real art... so they aren't that good at using their hands...
@esaualfaro34477 жыл бұрын
Esau Alfaro I agree with you. Both are complete. But not many WTF academies offer martial art, but they offer sport.
@adrijanohafner80067 жыл бұрын
I trained Korean WTF. I am sorry to inform you that WTF is much much harder kicking (that's why the extra gear). I sparred WTF and ITF, Good WTF teacher is clear that street fight and ring fight are totally different types of training and WTF offers both
@ericnelson91357 жыл бұрын
Eric Nelson I totally agree with what your saying. I also train in WTF. 👌
@Haris-jx9ld6 жыл бұрын
Adrijano Hafner..........I trained in wtf and I showed my skills many times in street fights.
@rajatthakur92096 жыл бұрын
Both are very good fighters, I've studied both ITF and WTF, both have their advantages and disadvantages, depends on the fighter, timing, experience, etc, rules only come into effect when both are evenly matched. Great sparring.
@MegaMach120037 жыл бұрын
May I know the differences? I think I am learnig WTF style (although we don't really make a distinction here, I only learnt about the two types online) and I'd like to learn its pros and cons, and also that of ITF.
@KSA-xl5zk7 жыл бұрын
Y'all gotta kill this cognitive bias between WTF & ITF. Both systems are different but neither is greater than the other. We gotta acknowledge that both systems aren't the total package in the world of Martial Arts and Fighting Sport. My foundation is WTF, but I acknowledge it's weakness and train in other disciplines to be more complete as I possible can.
@jeremybrown96117 жыл бұрын
itf is most definitely more effective then wtf, when it comes to combat sports if your sport is more effective then it is "greater"
@selectjed17 жыл бұрын
JustOneLonelyKZheadr I agree, in a street fight where there’s no point but kill or be killer itf is what you wanna know.
@florentn74424 жыл бұрын
nah fam, itf is more effective in the martial art world
@mannychavez83763 жыл бұрын
ITF is pure original TKD
@blujoos7 жыл бұрын
paul marsh shotokan karate is pure tkd lol
@izzydangerous69906 жыл бұрын
Izzy Dangerous No Karate is from Japan and Teakwondo is from Korea. They are two different martial arts
@rapedanina59526 жыл бұрын
Jenufer Lawrenz no the origin of taekwondo is karate shotokan. The founder of tkd studied shotokan before taekwondo. He has just add few techniques of taekyon to make a difference with shotokan
@qaderwaz93226 жыл бұрын
Kung Fu is the Grandfather of all Martial Arts.
@Patriot17906 жыл бұрын
@@qaderwaz9322 then before karate,it come from Chinese's hand, that mean shoalin is the original art
@abuumar155 жыл бұрын
I've done both most of my life but decided to stay ITF. For the more traditional approach ive studied boxing and some karate also its true WTF is more about the points but they also teach good self defence the kicks are technical but if the practitioner gets caught up in the points aspect when in a real fight they may loose because of the fancy points kicks. A lot of ITF schools don't teach the same kicking stategies or allow you to compete in many hard-full contact events but i have. ITF is more simular to Karate in my opinion the techniques are more focused towards stopping a fight instead of continuous sparing (wtf) the reason for the chest pad is the kicks aren't held back so its a protection thing if Itf didn't make you to learn to control your power while sparing people would get hurt. ITF full contact hurts if your not ready for it. they both teach tenants of TKD embrace both learn from each other
@kevinemard53705 жыл бұрын
There is no wtf vs itf. Just a competition between two fighters (each one from different styles) under WTF rules. After WTF inserted its system into the olympic games, this art became to collapse. How do you think you may defeat your adversary using just your feet? There is gap since the creation of TKD as a martial art and present knowledge... TKD was developed to be a complete system of training using your arms and feet. The stress on using the feet was just provide the fighter with an extra combat tool at long distance fighting. Nowadays I see no use of bare hands for boxing or grappling techniques. Every Poomsae stress the need to use this. There several ways to hit using fingers (sonkut), bare hand (son), fist (chumok), elbow (palmuk) in different combination to provide the fighter with several fighting techniques for close combat...
@FulvioRivano8 жыл бұрын
As an ITF styled practitioner, I'd be pretty sweet if there was Full Contact for ITF styled organizations as the norm just like WTF, as KOs are well encouraged.
@MajinBLJ8 жыл бұрын
its called kickboxing lol.
@wolftracker3218 жыл бұрын
+black_viking1222 Wut
@MajinBLJ8 жыл бұрын
+Brendan Jackson full contact itf would basically be kickboxing
@wolftracker3218 жыл бұрын
+black_viking1222 Not necessarily but they're similar. Not that point fighting crap for the most part.
@MajinBLJ8 жыл бұрын
aguante el ITF 💜❤❤👂
@pizzarda7 жыл бұрын
Pero si sos de la federación chul hak san no te servirá de mucho. Si decis por los puños que en el itf se aplica prefiero ir a boxeo.
@psspspotyfasse11294 жыл бұрын
@@psspspotyfasse1129 hay mas escuela ademas de la chul...
@lareconchadetumadre55393 жыл бұрын
@@psspspotyfasse1129 hay más deportes que combinan el boxeo con patadas
@carlosandres18353 жыл бұрын
El itf es el que permite puños verdad??
@carlosandres18353 жыл бұрын
@@carlosandres1835 los 2 permiten puños solo que en el itf se ocupa mas en el wtf se ocupa menos
@bnbddkkdkd7153 жыл бұрын
I love how all the ITF elitists are acting like an ITF guy would stomp a WTF guy in an ITF match.
@djbray77 жыл бұрын
I am so happy to choose ITF Taekwondo. :D
@typicalchineseguy58187 жыл бұрын
Deimos The Badass lol WTF killed the Itf guy
@BigBiddiesPoker7 жыл бұрын
Pint Size Taekwondo isn't the red one ITF?
@typicalchineseguy58187 жыл бұрын
Deimos The Badass I agree
@mabel21537 жыл бұрын
Mr Savage You don't need guard in a wtf regulated fight...
@googlemyfist1147 жыл бұрын
The fights are run very differently. WTF in this match had an advantage because if wtf regulations, although it was small and the ITF should have been able to adapt. It may or may not have been different under ITF regulation. At the end of the day it's skill. The WTF fighter here was clearly more comfortable. Two different fighters and maybe the ITF would have won. Can't judge on one fight.
@willn43307 жыл бұрын
I do ITF and my instructor would never let me spar with my hands down like that...
@whatisthisnewfeaturehandle11 ай бұрын
bah, for me it's still taekwondo, ITF or WTF alike! And Taekwondo is just too cool :3!
@corinnerobison87128 жыл бұрын
Corinne Robison Thats right. And that is the reason why ITF and Taekwondo should be one Taekwondo. Taekwondo could much more famous with WTF and ITF together.
@jasperscholz50944 жыл бұрын
Yah you two are right😊We are together with both ITF and WTF .WTF player
@jamunanapit13904 жыл бұрын
Jamuna Napit Yeah, the Kukkiwon demonstration with athletes from WTF and ITF was a first good step. But the idea with one world and one Taekwondo should be alive and followed.
@jasperscholz50944 жыл бұрын
@@jasperscholz5094 yes😊
@jamunanapit13904 жыл бұрын
THANK GOD FINALLYYY I'VE BEEN SEARCHING FOR THIS COMMENT FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THE OTHER COMMENTS WERE BASICALLY TALKING ABT THEIR FAVS, OR SHOULD I SAY BIASED HDSHDHSHDH
@shootingstar5363 жыл бұрын
Listen, I train wtf and all itf defendants are saying that it's incomplete and arms should be allowed etc. No technical punching actually happens in itf it's just some ridiculous arm swinging that has no impact. Either way, both are an effective form of self defence. No street fighter will expect a head kick and that's it.
@antoniosvasilellisneto3796 жыл бұрын
It is NEVER the style, it is always the practitioner.
@TheDondajonhon462 жыл бұрын
Unless the style is "Tai-Do-Chi-OneTap-Fire-Jitsu"
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@vincentvlegaspi3 жыл бұрын
Best bout I’ve seen in ages
@marcusrebbettes25017 ай бұрын
ITF: Effectiveness ... WTF: Agileness, will be amazing if they are combined
@teampembangunanmillal4 жыл бұрын
lmao yes renewal taekwondo
@yuuji37953 жыл бұрын
Yeah.... I've trained both years ago...
@teampembangunanmillal3 жыл бұрын
Ambos son efectivos
@DavidVallejo3372 жыл бұрын
to be honest i like the video but i dont like comparing the 2 main styles they are just effective in their own way
@michaelsouth887 жыл бұрын
Gracias por compartir don Vincent, estuvo interesante 😁
@Bienestarafaelin5 жыл бұрын
Competition is healthy and provides learning opportunities. Respect 🙏
@edmeldrum3342 Жыл бұрын
Me encanta wtf porque son puras patadas y mucha velocidad y agilidad. Muy Ninjas 👍
@velxen774 жыл бұрын
igual el itf es mas realista
@mirkomendoza3 жыл бұрын
@@mirkomendoza entonces es lo mismo?
@velxen773 жыл бұрын
@@velxen77 osea yo no digo que sea mejor pero en situaciones de peligro real creo que el itf es mas efectivo
@mirkomendoza3 жыл бұрын
@@mirkomendoza ah si
@velxen773 жыл бұрын
Protegen mucho al de WTF, si fueran reglas de ITF, no hubiese aguantado el azul
@felipeignacio56374 жыл бұрын
Hermano, habrán otras peleas con las reglas del ITF, no hay necesidad de rebuscar para tirarle mierda al WTF. Fue una increíble pelea entre dos estilos diferentes, y si no estas conforme, pues no mires el vídeo y busca el de tu preferencia
@PabloGonzalez-bs2pm2 жыл бұрын
Pues si wey son reglas distintas
@DavidVallejo3372 жыл бұрын
@@PabloGonzalez-bs2pm si fue una buena pelea
@DavidVallejo3372 жыл бұрын
what I personally found a bit shitty in ITF was, many did box and then came in TKD. Allways tryed to getting you in a short distance to make KO. With ITF I have only one question, what we does, kickboxing or taekwon-do? So definitely WTF did it well.
@cellonaut10 ай бұрын
Fue una muy buena pelea de los dos chicos. Es el mejor video de wtf vs itf que se puede ver en la web hoy. La tecnica de cada uno es muy prolija y el estilo bien actualizado.
@mauroj165 жыл бұрын
It must be uncomfortable for the ITF practicioner to make the sparring with that breastplate.
@VLADIMIR007ISH6 жыл бұрын
It is for both
@lucasdaconceicao85874 жыл бұрын
@@lucasdaconceicao8587 no, not for both..only for wtf
@nevermind1943 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@nevermind1943 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to be in WTF taekwondo
@allanreyes48996 жыл бұрын
Me too I feel like ITF players should respect WTF more like it is both Taekwondo I haven't met one WTF player who didn't respect or critisize the ITF style but every ITF player seems to have a total grudge of hatred towards WTF and finds everyway to bash it
@deadmeme42566 жыл бұрын
Me too
@laabuelaautotune7505 жыл бұрын
Deadmeme siéntese señora use google translator to understand my Spanish 🙂
@laabuelaautotune7505 жыл бұрын
Potatoes Are Good For You as a person who does ITF I think that we should respect WTF more, I actually think that WTF sparring looks much better than ITF sparring
@rats____4 жыл бұрын
Salamonio ITF was created first before WTF and yes, usually WTF sparring mostly seems like use feet often than hands ITF use hands and feet but yeah although I’m an ITF tkd guy i admit wtf sparring looks fun and cool
@miller20824 жыл бұрын
It´s that in Dublin??
@juanmr.v74506 жыл бұрын
This is definetly WTF rules. Whenever they get close, they hug each other... But anyways, respect for those fighters
@scroenix9 ай бұрын
Taekwondo WTF:azul Taekwondo ITF :rojo
@emiliosevilla18 жыл бұрын
emilioSC 15 al revés. ..
@julioalfonso32536 жыл бұрын
Hago itf y wtf taekwando
@doublerival54214 жыл бұрын
@@julioalfonso3253 no está bien pq los de wtf no usan guantes tipo de boxeo no sé cómo se llaman los guantes >_
@diananunez39664 жыл бұрын
@@doublerival5421 yo solo wtf :3
@diananunez39664 жыл бұрын
@@julioalfonso3253 está bien
@jf49253 жыл бұрын
Si estan combatiendo con las reglas WT claramente ITF tendra desventajas, ya que utilizan mas los puños en zonas altas y medias, mas altas que nada, me atreveria a decir que usan 45% puños y el resto pateos, golpean de otra manera, debio ser con reglas ITF y WT aprender a bloquear mas la cabeza. PD: Practico WT, trato de defender lo justo
@mimolois2 жыл бұрын
Interesante
@mrking24982 жыл бұрын
Now I want to see them fight in a street fight rules(but using tae kwon do ofc)
@SHADOW-qy8uc Жыл бұрын
Started WTF a few weeks back to add to my karate regime but it's too sport like lol
@galaxywing90937 жыл бұрын
Me gustaria ver el mismo combate con reglas itf
@MrArgenblues2 жыл бұрын
I am the only that come here cause God of high school?
@mkd62643 жыл бұрын
I practiced WTF for 7 years, I'm 3rd Kup... I had some interruptions so I got a bit late, I could be 1st Kup xD. Whatever, since I moved of my country, 3 years ago I stopped practicing, and now I want back in... But I'm woundering if I should keep on WTD cause I'm experient or if I should try something new, like WTF... And will I lose my belt? Opinions? Answers? :D
@zanbillian8 жыл бұрын
Well, that depends if the master of the school you going to practice accept your belt, like my master did, that he accept a green belt of karate to stay on that rank. Anyway, I don't think you stay with your belt on ITF cuz ITF have diferents poomsae and differents styles of combat.
@abdiellopez22358 жыл бұрын
+abdiel lopez karate has kata which are a lot different from poomsaes... so maybe I can switch to ITF and keep my belt
@zanbillian8 жыл бұрын
Like I said, depends on the master, like my master did, he lets that guy keep his belt because my master was a humble person and let him keep de green belt. But you can talk to the master of the ITF school you want to go, maybe he let you keep your belt. The only thing that really matters are the poomsae cuz the kicks are the same and the blocks, the fighting combat has a little change but just try to convince him or something. I hope you can keep it.
@abdiellopez22358 жыл бұрын
Can anybody tell me were can i learn ITF i live in texas,currently i am learning WTF, i am yellow belt and i am really wanting to learn ITF as it seems more better
@stephflores94156 жыл бұрын
Ay varias diferencias en el momento del combate entre itf y wtf quizás eso le juega en contra al itf
@magiiarmy42455 жыл бұрын
suerte que el de itf no puede usar manos xdd
@xXNaNoXx147 жыл бұрын
Itf guy most likely agreed to fight in he’s rules. Hats off to both guys for training hard and sparring one another
@Potatodrumcrow5 жыл бұрын
the two styles are beautiful
@vicentebarrera24983 жыл бұрын
ITF FTW
@revenrend97068 жыл бұрын
You guys forget that there's more to WTF than just kicking. Sparring isn't the whole martial art. In a sparring match there are rules that you must follow, the biggest difference between ITF and WTF Tkd sparring matches is that you can punch. In a real street fight a WTF fighter (like me) could easily dominate others when using self defense techniques and punches. WTF also uses punches a lot just not in the sparring part. That's the difference, the actual techniques are very similar since they both just branch off one another so the only real difference are the sparring RULES.
@googlemyfist1147 жыл бұрын
No Data it depends though. If you don't practice punches in sparring, how will you use it in a street fight. I don't practice Axe kick because punching is faster and I just don't like it. Since I don't use it in a controlled fight, I wouldn't be able to effectively use it in an uncontrolled. If you don't practice it it doesn't work, end of story.
@willn43307 жыл бұрын
I think it depends mainly on the martial artist rather than the martial art itself.
@googlemyfist1147 жыл бұрын
how many times did you fight in a street??? if you are only thinking about street fights then practice krab maga and END OF STORY...
@samuraineko97 жыл бұрын
Samuraineko I've taken Krav. I decided I like TKD better.
@willn43307 жыл бұрын
It is so wrong.. i do sanda, we spare with kicks, punches and throws... I practice that all the time, how do you think you can handle punches from a guy that can land punches on the face of people that are used to defend against that kind of Attack when you are not used to ? It's like thinking as an amateur boxer you could defeat a pro bower ! That's very delusional !
@bertrandronge90197 жыл бұрын
i enjoy that both were being aggresive and attacking and countering instead of dancing around
@joshuarichardson51557 жыл бұрын
I currently do the WTF type of Taekwondo and I’m looking forward to sparring with an ITF with ITF rules. Maybe someday...
@E1zzzZ4 жыл бұрын
wow very good game and Red,Blue player respectbut... i think this fight rule is WTF taekwondo.so this game is advantage blue player.. Don`t u think so?i think WTF taekwondo is sports. ITF taekwondo is fight.if rule change the ITF , WTF taekwondo must loose..( i think!!!!!!!!)because WTF Kick = just point not Attack..im Korean taekwondo teacher..(WTF teacher)many people say taekwondo is just kickin... no.. never...use hand, finger, knee, elbow.. a lot of body move..but many old man secret history and change..very confuse :
@zenon4278 жыл бұрын
+Christian Orderud all contact is allowed trust me
@DanielGarcia-dd7vu8 жыл бұрын
i used to be wtf
@lokmaneelbachraoui76997 жыл бұрын
No
@DavidVallejo3372 жыл бұрын
blue guy calls a point after falling flat on his face? wtf is up with that lol
@selectjed17 жыл бұрын
JustOneLonelyKZheadr a turning kick to the face is worth 3 points so even if he falls and potentially gets a red card point lost, he still gains two points ahead.
@AsianNationGaming997 жыл бұрын
GhenghisKhangai he gains points for failed kick? are you positive about that? because it is much easier to go for head kicks when you arent worried about falling
@selectjed17 жыл бұрын
JustOneLonelyKZheadr The actual kick still landed, falling doesn't mean the kick did not land, so he still scores.
@AsianNationGaming997 жыл бұрын
GhenghisKhangai so you are telling me falling is part of the kick?
@selectjed17 жыл бұрын
He was deducted a point for falling not granted a point.
@mageslol7 жыл бұрын
My question is what were the rules to their matches because ITF uses more of the Korean Kickboxing Art off Punches and Kicks
@Ramen_Lord1014 жыл бұрын
which is itf ? blue or red ?
@rz7067 жыл бұрын
Tae kwon do is the art of foot and hand not the art of foot
@EJS-xg6bd6 жыл бұрын
in my Opinion WTF have more amazing Strong kick and speed :) BTW hi guys i learn WTF taekwondo in indonesia !!!. what about you guys WTF or ITF ?
@AmeliaRiana-yg5cx7 жыл бұрын
u sure ? wtf kicks hav speed but no power itf kicks abit slower but can deal much more dmg than wtf
@aaronsim52607 жыл бұрын
Aaron Sim I don't practice taekwondo but Muay Thai, and in my opinion I liked the Blue one better considering he used speed which is one thing that counter strength all the time. And I've fought both ITF and WTF fighters, out of all of them the WTF fighters rely on "explosion" and timing.
@linusjonsson91665 жыл бұрын
Itf punch in the face..wtf will cry if fight in itf rules
@abuumar155 жыл бұрын
Bope u wrong
@sumikorbekv62665 жыл бұрын
@@linusjonsson9166 nope*
@sumikorbekv62665 жыл бұрын
I am a little confused, why is he allowed to fight without foot gaurds?? is this a wtf thing? (not done taekwondo for that long)
@assassinproductions77626 жыл бұрын
Are they like having a banquet or party beside?
@CCPJAYLPHAN19946 жыл бұрын
ahahahahah! next video suld be ju do vs TKD WTF under WTF rules.
@DiamondCatTKW7 жыл бұрын
Владимир Шпанко judo is going to get destroyed under WTF rules
@michaelsouth887 жыл бұрын
Oh really? Thank you captain obvious
@DiamondCatTKW7 жыл бұрын
Владимир Шпанко you're welcome
@michaelsouth887 жыл бұрын
TYPICAL KEY That's the point mate.
@cadkls6 жыл бұрын
If the outcome is obvious why do you even want to see it
@Merlijn836 жыл бұрын
I have watched many fights for both WTF and ITF fighting other martial arts like Karate. I have never seen ITF showing the real skill of Tae Kwon Do in real fights other than throwing punches that don't even have impact on the opponent
@moetisekhonyana65724 жыл бұрын
finally, some clean TKD
@corndog9847 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between ITF & Wtf
@mr.abhowmick42004 жыл бұрын
gano el peleador de wtf fue señalado
@francojorquera67178 жыл бұрын
My fav part 5:18
@cake89538 жыл бұрын
Cake Awhh shit that was an amazing counter
@Shaadmood6 жыл бұрын
Super six paths kurama mazaku saiyan mode blue you realise it was a fancy kick 🤦♂️ people actually don't use those alot like he did
@linusjonsson91665 жыл бұрын
This is an ITF invitational fight, so technically we are surrounded by ITF players. But the ref is WTF and while we try to be fair on rules, turns out to looks like WTF. The only thing that's lost in the rule is punching in the face. Hope that's fair enough.
@vincentvlegaspi3 жыл бұрын
If is just the punch dan I guess the ITF guys should also remove his leg shoes becoz it makes different.
@kinkin43703 жыл бұрын
@@kinkin4370 I myself is WTF so I really dont know what ITF rules all about. Im just assuming the difference is having or not having a punch on the face.
@vincentvlegaspi3 жыл бұрын
No son injustas pendejo
@DavidVallejo3372 жыл бұрын
The god of high school RE...
@erikkt0f624 жыл бұрын
Wtf rules, the Itf fighter can't block or punch to the face... it's like challenging a fish in water (Tkd Itf red belt by the way)
@31Pensador7 жыл бұрын
The true Taekwondo, ''Taekwondo ITF'' from General Choi Hong Hi (I am a red belt; almost a black belt) and... Taekwondo Wtf have some good fighters and it's too popular as sport, that's the difference, Itf is a martial art, wtf is a sport
@31Pensador7 жыл бұрын
Portugues não homem, fala Espanhol ou Inglês. Quão pouco o tradutor me ajudou a entender Vou te dar duas respostas, número um, eu tenho vídeos na internet, mas se eu tiver 3 medalhas Primeiro, eu não acho que melhor do que qualquer um desses lutadores e se eu acho taekwondo ITF é superior como arte marcial wtf. Eu não quero presucion ou humor a subestimar o esporte estilo taekwondo (wtf) Eu digo isso porque eu estou nesse mundo. Por favor, fale Espanhol ou Inglês.
@31Pensador7 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, tkd wtf is not a martial art, it's a sport of contact... and because of tkd wtf, ('cause almost nobody knows the difference) most of the people thinks taekwondo is bullshit comparing to another martial art, but they don't understand that wtf don't train punches or full contact moves, that's why if they don't get a lucky hit; they are not challenge for another real martial art. Although taekwondo wtf has incredible fighters, what is bullshit is the way that they turned taekwndo into a sport.
@31Pensador7 жыл бұрын
ITF is original TKD
@AlexisRx06 жыл бұрын
No lo es
@DavidVallejo3372 жыл бұрын
@@DavidVallejo337 Lee la historia del fundador. El general Choi
@AlexisRx02 жыл бұрын
@@AlexisRx0 bueno
@DavidVallejo3372 жыл бұрын
nice fight both of them got nice kicks
@sharwenboedhai84938 жыл бұрын
As a WTF Taekwondo athlete, this has got to be the most jank fight I've ever seen.
@owenzhang95866 ай бұрын
ITF is red
@ratpepp65768 жыл бұрын
RatPepp nope
@julioalfonso32536 жыл бұрын
El competidor de WTF es superior en todo sentido, el de ITF solo abanicaba su pierna delantera mientras el otro le conectaba patadas potentes inclusive al rostro y cabeza. WTF gana!!
@alex-hx1kp6 жыл бұрын
alex Pero En Una Situacion Real, Gana El De ITF
@xabiervera77966 жыл бұрын
alex Pero por qué dices que es de itf el rojo?
@julioalfonso32536 жыл бұрын
Me parece más lógico que el de itf sea el azul ya que este ni tiene protecciones en los pies , seguro escogió no usarlas ya que en itf así se entrena
@julioalfonso32536 жыл бұрын
Julius Behemoth por el diseño de dobok
@nickymoreno3145 жыл бұрын
@@julioalfonso3253 el itf es el rojo
@DavidVallejo3372 жыл бұрын
Can i use this video??😄😄😄👍👍😀😀😍😍😉
@user-wi3eb7xe6q7 жыл бұрын
Both styles promote great techniques on effective combat but the true results is on each practicioner. Nice challenge here but the WTF rule to not hit the head with punches in my opinion is ridiculous on how unrealistic and limiting it is. At the same time WTF allows kicks in the back which is even worst , given that kicks are very much powerful that you can see on video, and can break bones of the back rather easy on well placed hits. Anyway regarding this fight, both fighters were agressive and I liked that, however the WTF practicioner was always falling to floor by himself. Risking everything on doing several spin kicks, but not having a good posture when finishing them. ITF fighter could have won this easily, by placing so many punches many times on the fight, and he just had to get with hands "stuck" because of that rule. Also that rule indirectly breaks the flow of many combinations of Kick and Punches combos. There are many techniques that force the opponent to block and be open for an instant punch in the head that can be K/O or at least big points on many situations. PS: why does the WTF fighter allowed to fight without protection on feets? that is a clear advantage also.
@MichelangeloDraconis3 ай бұрын
Itf is the real taekwondo. wtf is what happens the government get involved
@EJS-xg6bd6 жыл бұрын
No digas pendejadas
@DavidVallejo3372 жыл бұрын
WTF rules.
@SebastianMMA167 жыл бұрын
SebastianMMA16 False
@briangonzalez64326 жыл бұрын
Brian Gonzalez I practice WTF and he's correct. The ITF is allowed to punch in the head too which he never did so it was definitely under WTF rules
@linusjonsson91665 жыл бұрын
can someone explain me the rules in WTF and ITF?....because i'm in MGTF(malaysia)
@ourtimousaaw12787 жыл бұрын
5:19 that back kick was insane 😮
@M.P.R07007Ай бұрын
The difference between styles is that ITF is better.
@USA-py1no5 ай бұрын
That’s awesome, now they should have ATA vs WTF, or ATA vs ITF, they’re all Taekwondo, it’s good to see practitioners from both TKD here together, is there other TKD organizations I think one is USATF
@jaypeve4 жыл бұрын
Seems to me that they fight based on WTF rules, which would mean that this is not WTF vs ITF. It would just be ITF practitioners doing WTF.
@filipl234 Жыл бұрын
Good fight for both players!
@gabetheanimator67688 жыл бұрын
Mark Wu yes!!💯
@jayheredia69756 жыл бұрын
No victory no defeat the survivor will carry the title of boss.
@VLADIMIR007ISH7 жыл бұрын
Time to learn this
@boop12784 жыл бұрын
It was in New Zealand ?
@SuperKICKLEE7 жыл бұрын
yes bro
@vincentvlegaspi3 жыл бұрын
very good tehnique..used to train WTF...like your foot abillity. My favourite foot kick is spidjo čagi:)what is your specialty? like for TKD:)
Learned WTF for about 6 years, but i support ITF because WTF removed too much of original TKD moves in order to join the olympics.
Now I want to see them fight according to ITF sparring rules.
*lol* If it's ITF sparring rules, it would be so deadly for the WTF guy since no protection for the chest and the stomach and the ITF guy would have higher chance to punch the WTF guy in the face.
wouldn't affect the outcome since ITF isn't full contact. but your right once they allowed head shots the WTF guy would have a tattoo punched into his head.
you two have it totally backwards. You have to get inside the kick for punch to work at all. ITF would have his head kicked off before he was in range to punch. Only way he would win is if WTF guy was disqualified for excessive force (which is likely i guess).
go watch some old kickboxing video's there basicly ITF but full contact. then tell me how come the end up inside punching to the head? even in WTF they end up in clinches that's the point where they would get punched in the head. just because they don't go full contact in the tournaments doesn't mean they can't. so long as both fighters are fighting by the same rules.
i guess your right about the clinch but WTF never trains soft (and you never want to be in a clinch anyway). There is that whole muscle memory thing to consider. If your muscles don't train to hit hard than they wont remember to hit hard. ITF also don't remember to combo because fight stops to often.
Congratulations WTF. Now try with ITF rules.
Yes
WTF will get clapped
@@abrahamm.sugondo5562 what are the differences in rules that would change the fight? I dont know much about Taekwondo that's why im asking
@@johonanandrewgomes7593 in ITF there is no body gaurds and you can punch the face I'm not sure about the rest because Ive only done WTF
@@abrahamm.sugondo5562 I think it just depends on the type of master you have and how well you practice, like most of the problems for WTF practitioner sparring with ITF rules is getting used to being punched in the face.
My two daughters (11 and 14 years old) train in the ITF since 4 years ago. They don't train with contact. But three times in the last year they have used it successfully in the street, even in situations with no physical advantage. I have to thank ITF Tae Kwon Do for this.
You need to relocate
@@technickelnet lol
you should probably relocate
Mad respect! 👊🥋🇰🇷
Reading GOH from webtoon and then i want to see this shit
You aren't alone 😂
You're not alone
@some dude with depression and anxiety taekkyeon
I watched the anime i was waiting for the triple kick 😂
Same 😂
i used to do both... started as a ITF hwoarang and now im doing wtf and i have to say do not let the look of the armour and the acrobatics fool ya wtf is mean. i have been beaten more in wtf than itf.. and the no punch to the face rule makes it difficult for a guy like me with long arms. the protectors makes it that people kick more and hit you more. in itf every kick had a toll so all of a sudden your fighting style seems to change a bit because of the damage you sustain. I also while practicing ITF made the mistake to think wtf was a joke but they are both taekwondo the wtf guys have a different aproach to training and sparring. in some way they are more athlete's and they want to take there abilities to new heights. ITF was more about the martial art and the DO (way of taekwondo). that you could take your entire life becoming better. WTF because of how competitive they are this guys work out and train so different. if you want to sit behind a keyboard complain try them both and you will know the true differences and you will understand my words.
Same story for me too bro completely understand
Haha even I’ve done both. If you’ve watched naruto, you’ll understand. WTF is like the Uchiha clan. Competitive and ruthless. ITF is like the Senju clan. Cultural and patient.
Jango Nauta Yeah The blue fighter Is a joke though. Whining and complaining like it’s a soccer match. ITF teaches much more to train the warrior mindset.
The moment I see a TKD fight start and the arms dangle instead of being a guard I drop out. Use your arms goddamn it. Better yet fight full contact with ITF rules of punching. I am 2. kup under ITF and WTF. I have to say that I favor the style I learned under ITF rules. It feels more complete as a martial art. Still not appliccable without cross training for self defense but ascfor your protective reflexes in combat you are better off than WTF. I am a heavy weight (100 kg) so fancy acrobatics aren't for me anyways.
Trained under ITF rules for nine years but just today quit my job of almost two years as a WTF Instructor. I'm going back to ITF. WTF teaches explosiveness, more kicking dexterity and a more competitive mental attitude. However, explosiveness doesn't necessarily translate to power, and a competitive mindset is different to a combative mindset. The primary reason I train martial arts is self-defence, self-discipline and mental toughness, which is what ITF excels in teaching. We have arms. It doesn't make sense not to use them.
I am from WTF. Yes, unfair to ITF.
I agree with you and I practiced tkd wtf.
Every single hand-hand style allows punching to the face in a match. You're gonna say it's unfair since BOTH fighters can do that? They can still punch the body. There are no rules on either side saying you can't.
Jay-Ian Pabilan Itf, Wtf, it doesn't matter. WTF fighters move more freely. Just because their hands are down, doesn't make them bad fighters, it's what's comfortable. There are no rules saying you can't keep your hands up. These fighters need to condition their feet. As a WTF fighter, some of my upper class-men were surprised when I didn't get hurt when I kept hitting their elbows. I was surprised too, but I knew my conditioning was working. And made their elbows feel sore since i would go 50% lmao. WTF is not weak, just needs to wake up.
+Jay-Ian Pabilan actually in the old days, in the 80s, we trained without letting our guard down. but since it has become more sport, letting guard down is to lure opponent to make a move and more relax to execute faster kicks. personally i train with my guard up. reason is i am older, slower now and no more fancy kicks. what i can do as a young man, now i cannot. i only limit. a few simpler kicks with lots of power, a lot more hand techniques.
Jay-Ian Pabilan then you would know that wtf fighters train for power as well
if you are trying to show the difference, you can not use just one rule system, because it gives that style an advantage. let them loose by both rules system and see who is the better fighter. The ITF fighter would total dominate the fight if he would be allowed to use his fighting system..I have seen a lot of these videos and it always WTF rules, are they to afraid of loosing to the ITF?
Michael Tippett That still doesn't work. In order to really test it, it should be a no rule full contact fight. If that were the case I could use any throwing and self defense techniques I wanted and not just kicking and punching. Kicking and punching isn't the entire martial art
Michael Tippett. The only thing that wasn't allowed was shots to the head w/ the fist. If you host the match with "balanced rules"(punches to the face allowed) then it'll still boil down to whose the better fighter. You're trying to say that system is better and not the fighter!
That WTF fighter is great,even in ITF rules he would be tough
Combine the rules I believe. Put boxing gloves on and allow face and body punches. But still score kicks in a similar way. Take away all electronic scoring and score it like any other combat sport.
@Taekwondo invented 1930 ITF style invented in 1959 your so arrogant calling people morons and ignorant everyone entitled to their opinions. I have done both WTF and ITF so i know my shit and there is no difference in kick strength there is definitely the same amount of contact plus ITF get to use punches. I back both styles but ITF does take the cake.
ITF the best!!!
Nah no lo es
@@DavidVallejo337 Yah, sí lo es. La WTF es como esgrimir con los pies. La ITF es mejor en una pelea. Quizás la ITF sea lo suficientemente buena para los Juegos Olímpicos
@@speakstheobvious5769 no
@@DavidVallejo337 Jawohl
@@speakstheobvious5769 ?
I'm an old Wtf nerd. 1981-2000. But I would like to have learned itf too. There are some "twists" to the kicks and how they're delivered that I'm secretly jealous of. But now I'm 49, live on a small island in Thailand so maybe in my next life 😊
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I was a Blackbelt in ITF and I also currently a Blackbelt in WTF and I believe ITF is better for sparring as i was always in the heavy weight category because I am shorter but I could use my hand techniques to get in and score against taller opponents and WTF is good but due to the fact you can only punch to the chest to score it is a lot harder to gain an advantage and when you look at WTF fighters they are tall where ITF has a larger variety of fighters of all sizes. There seems to be a lot of negative comments towards ITF and I have seen fighters of all grades sparring and people think ITF is semi contact all the time when it isn't and ITF don't wear chest protectors. People who have done both styles would probably have a similar opinion. WTF is in the olympics while ITF can't be because of ITF, TAGB which are pretty much follow the same rules aren't allowed in the olympics for political reasons. The Olympic committee won't allow poomsae in the olympics which is mainly what is practiced in clubs and sparring attracts people in joining although there is a England poomsae squad.
According to official ITF rules, it is only light contact. I know that some gyms practice full contact though.
ITF fighter under WTF rules, Of course the ITF fighter would lose. A major component of ITF fighting is punching to the head, which isn't allowed in WTF.
Both we're actually quite excellent. You rarely see such a close match up like this when it comes to different regulations and/or style match ups. Even though the ITF fighter was fighting in a different rule set, he did really well. I think it goes to show that even though both use different rules, it's still Taekwondo at the core. Great fight, thanks for uploading.
im here to say that i respect both two distinct styles WTF and ITF. It doesnt matter who wins or loses, all different types of martial arts are perfect. Its just a matter of question of who and what are the capabilities of that person. Now if you guys are gonna keep going about which style is better youre looking at it wrong both styles are perfect in combat both used in the military its just depends on how they utilize the style if you know how to adapt in combat whatever what martial art you are practicing will be perfect. WTF sparring has a different focus just because they only show kicking that doesnt mean in self defense they dont use fist or takedowns to bring down an enemy this sparring is a sport not combat. while for ITF its sparring is more focused in combat so most of the time its self defense focused like kickboxing but all this doesnt matter as long as we respect other martial arts and martial artist because if you dont youre a shame in the name of MARTIAL ART FOR FORGETTING THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT IN MARTIAL ARTS : RESPECT. STOP THE BASHING BETWEEN ITF AND WTF.
1. Fact: Both of them is a good fighter. Any one of them would KO-ed their opponent if they made a mistake. 2. I practice both ITFand WTF. ITF: Self Defence+Art WTF: Sports 3. Basic is the same. Its all depends on the practitioner and how their instructor trained them. Taekwando=ITF/WTF Love both of them.
Ambos son para defensa personal
@@DavidVallejo337 nah one of them is for the Olympic taekwondo the ITF is self defence they both counter offensive
@@Anthony99user mm no
@@DavidVallejo337 the WTF one is Olympic one but if you want a street fight ITF would be better
@@DavidVallejo337 If you in a street fight ITF is way better
Eso fue wtf vs wtf. Los que hacemos TAEKWON-DO ITF usamos los puños sea a la cara o a la zona media. Quiero creer que eso fue un show. Y antes de irme aclarar que solo hay 1 Taekwon-do y es el ITF. EL ORIGINAL, el que creo el general Choi Hong Hi.
Hola, práctico taekwondo WTF de manera más marcial pero tienes razón el ITF es el original, tambien la WTF a deportisado mucho el TKD
yo decia que tiene las manos de adorno no uso los puños no hizo amagues hago tkd itf desde el 2003,el de wtf peleo bien pero si el de itf usaba los puños seguro ganaba
No es por la asociación, sino del practicante, aunque también estoy de acuerdo que le prohibieron algunas cosas al de ITF
El itf no es original ambos son taekwondo amigo y la batalla estaba igualada por un poco inclinada hacia el itf pero nada mas
@@erosricciardulli9467 para mí ambos lo son
i love how wtf spins and then falls down on his own, love it...
haha
***** A LOT of mistakes, imo :v
***** But it's not one, i mean, check almost every video of WTF "knockouts" or highlights... Granted those kicks are insanely effective if you're fighting one person and if, and that's a big *IF* you manage to land the shot to the face or head but after that most practitioners land on their back or face ... i've never got used to that, then again, i dont practice TKD WTF so fuck me in the eye socket,i guess...
+MercenaryFox LOL!!
+MercenaryFox hey i joind TKD WTF it do's not hurt at all.
Good fight! But somehow is a unfair game in my opinion, it is WTF vs ITF but they used the WTF regulation:-)
Only difference, no punching to the face but you can kick it. Seems fair either way
NO THAT IS NOT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. in wtf you can connect and fall to the ground and it will still be valid, in ITF you can not fall to the ground. in wtf the fight stop on each point scored. In ITF the fight is continuous and only stops if theres an infraction. in wtf your arms are useless. in ITF you can punch body and face, either on the floor or jumping. those are the main differences, and theres more. if they used ITF regulations. the WTF guy would get his face filled with punches. then you would see that there is a very big difference. it would make more sense to use ITF rules, adding tools for both fighters and not wtf rules where it gets more limited.
Liquidcadmus wtf allows punching but not to the face and besides this fighter was fast, if he fought under ITF ruling, then the result will end the same. Wtf fighter have fast punches and they always land on a chest guard perfectly. All he has to do is slide in and bam instant point. Not those ITF punches that look like sloppy brawl punches
Liquidcadmus in wtf you don't stop and go, the only time they stop is when the fighter falls but point is valid, or if a clinch has gone on too long. Get your shit straight
if will use the speed to their advantage
??: Renewal Taekwondo.....Triple kick!
U cultured man
@@r0v3r71 x2
I was a 3rd degree Black Belt in ITF Taekwon-Do, and I was originally planning to keep doing, just for exercise, but the pandemic stopped me.
I trained kyokushin karate for 18 years, and boxing for 8 years. For 3 years I trained ITF tkd to spice up my foot techiqes. With kyo backgrounds itf tkd with boxing are a good choice. Last year a went back to the kyo dojo and started to train at an mma gym. I very thankful for itf, it helped me a lot, to land various kick combinations, I blowed my kyo training partners mind. And itf has more punches which are helpful. Never underestimate punching, if you're trying to win in a k1 or mma match.
I've trained ITF and WTF. And certainly can say ITF is much much better. But I have to say on ITF version I've been trained by Korean. It was much more than full contact. We trained how to use TKD on a street. We used throws, grapplings, punches and kicks. I've been on one tournament and I've broke a nose to the guy with punch. And also, unfortunately, I used it on a street as a defence, and it was very successfully. On WTF we were trained only for tournaments. There were no creativity. And we were equipped with full armor. On ITF we had only gloves. No halmets and other stuff. Also on WTF we had semi contact trainings. When I came on my first WTF training, and when they saw my skills they put me in the best group and sad to me that they have plans for me, and I will be very successefull in TKD. They wanted me to go on tournaments. And that was not the reason why I trained TKD. I trained for a few years and I stopped just because I never learned something new on WTF. So if you're training or you have trained ITF, and it is semi or no contact, than it is not ITF. ITF is much harder than WTF. ITF is a martial art, and WTF is just a sport. And I had a chance to prove the power of ITF on the street many times, and also I had a chance to compare it.
Adrijano Hafner I train WTF, and I have the fortune to be training in a dojang where we learn to use a wide variety of techniques like you just said... I don't think one is more complete than the other... I believe most WTF academies only focus on tournaments so they forget Taekwondo is the art of fighting with your feet AND hands. And... unfortunately, I can see a lot of students not taking seriously the poomsae and all the trainings we do on the real art... so they aren't that good at using their hands...
Esau Alfaro I agree with you. Both are complete. But not many WTF academies offer martial art, but they offer sport.
I trained Korean WTF. I am sorry to inform you that WTF is much much harder kicking (that's why the extra gear). I sparred WTF and ITF, Good WTF teacher is clear that street fight and ring fight are totally different types of training and WTF offers both
Eric Nelson I totally agree with what your saying. I also train in WTF. 👌
Adrijano Hafner..........I trained in wtf and I showed my skills many times in street fights.
Both are very good fighters, I've studied both ITF and WTF, both have their advantages and disadvantages, depends on the fighter, timing, experience, etc, rules only come into effect when both are evenly matched. Great sparring.
May I know the differences? I think I am learnig WTF style (although we don't really make a distinction here, I only learnt about the two types online) and I'd like to learn its pros and cons, and also that of ITF.
Y'all gotta kill this cognitive bias between WTF & ITF. Both systems are different but neither is greater than the other. We gotta acknowledge that both systems aren't the total package in the world of Martial Arts and Fighting Sport. My foundation is WTF, but I acknowledge it's weakness and train in other disciplines to be more complete as I possible can.
itf is most definitely more effective then wtf, when it comes to combat sports if your sport is more effective then it is "greater"
JustOneLonelyKZheadr I agree, in a street fight where there’s no point but kill or be killer itf is what you wanna know.
nah fam, itf is more effective in the martial art world
ITF is pure original TKD
paul marsh shotokan karate is pure tkd lol
Izzy Dangerous No Karate is from Japan and Teakwondo is from Korea. They are two different martial arts
Jenufer Lawrenz no the origin of taekwondo is karate shotokan. The founder of tkd studied shotokan before taekwondo. He has just add few techniques of taekyon to make a difference with shotokan
Kung Fu is the Grandfather of all Martial Arts.
@@qaderwaz9322 then before karate,it come from Chinese's hand, that mean shoalin is the original art
I've done both most of my life but decided to stay ITF. For the more traditional approach ive studied boxing and some karate also its true WTF is more about the points but they also teach good self defence the kicks are technical but if the practitioner gets caught up in the points aspect when in a real fight they may loose because of the fancy points kicks. A lot of ITF schools don't teach the same kicking stategies or allow you to compete in many hard-full contact events but i have. ITF is more simular to Karate in my opinion the techniques are more focused towards stopping a fight instead of continuous sparing (wtf) the reason for the chest pad is the kicks aren't held back so its a protection thing if Itf didn't make you to learn to control your power while sparing people would get hurt. ITF full contact hurts if your not ready for it. they both teach tenants of TKD embrace both learn from each other
There is no wtf vs itf. Just a competition between two fighters (each one from different styles) under WTF rules. After WTF inserted its system into the olympic games, this art became to collapse. How do you think you may defeat your adversary using just your feet? There is gap since the creation of TKD as a martial art and present knowledge... TKD was developed to be a complete system of training using your arms and feet. The stress on using the feet was just provide the fighter with an extra combat tool at long distance fighting. Nowadays I see no use of bare hands for boxing or grappling techniques. Every Poomsae stress the need to use this. There several ways to hit using fingers (sonkut), bare hand (son), fist (chumok), elbow (palmuk) in different combination to provide the fighter with several fighting techniques for close combat...
As an ITF styled practitioner, I'd be pretty sweet if there was Full Contact for ITF styled organizations as the norm just like WTF, as KOs are well encouraged.
its called kickboxing lol.
+black_viking1222 Wut
+Brendan Jackson full contact itf would basically be kickboxing
+black_viking1222 Not necessarily but they're similar. Not that point fighting crap for the most part.
aguante el ITF 💜❤❤👂
Pero si sos de la federación chul hak san no te servirá de mucho. Si decis por los puños que en el itf se aplica prefiero ir a boxeo.
@@psspspotyfasse1129 hay mas escuela ademas de la chul...
@@psspspotyfasse1129 hay más deportes que combinan el boxeo con patadas
El itf es el que permite puños verdad??
@@carlosandres1835 los 2 permiten puños solo que en el itf se ocupa mas en el wtf se ocupa menos
I love how all the ITF elitists are acting like an ITF guy would stomp a WTF guy in an ITF match.
I am so happy to choose ITF Taekwondo. :D
Deimos The Badass lol WTF killed the Itf guy
Pint Size Taekwondo isn't the red one ITF?
Deimos The Badass I agree
Mr Savage You don't need guard in a wtf regulated fight...
The fights are run very differently. WTF in this match had an advantage because if wtf regulations, although it was small and the ITF should have been able to adapt. It may or may not have been different under ITF regulation. At the end of the day it's skill. The WTF fighter here was clearly more comfortable. Two different fighters and maybe the ITF would have won. Can't judge on one fight.
I do ITF and my instructor would never let me spar with my hands down like that...
bah, for me it's still taekwondo, ITF or WTF alike! And Taekwondo is just too cool :3!
Corinne Robison Thats right. And that is the reason why ITF and Taekwondo should be one Taekwondo. Taekwondo could much more famous with WTF and ITF together.
Yah you two are right😊We are together with both ITF and WTF .WTF player
Jamuna Napit Yeah, the Kukkiwon demonstration with athletes from WTF and ITF was a first good step. But the idea with one world and one Taekwondo should be alive and followed.
@@jasperscholz5094 yes😊
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Listen, I train wtf and all itf defendants are saying that it's incomplete and arms should be allowed etc. No technical punching actually happens in itf it's just some ridiculous arm swinging that has no impact. Either way, both are an effective form of self defence. No street fighter will expect a head kick and that's it.
It is NEVER the style, it is always the practitioner.
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Best bout I’ve seen in ages
ITF: Effectiveness ... WTF: Agileness, will be amazing if they are combined
lmao yes renewal taekwondo
Yeah.... I've trained both years ago...
Ambos son efectivos
to be honest i like the video but i dont like comparing the 2 main styles they are just effective in their own way
Gracias por compartir don Vincent, estuvo interesante 😁
Competition is healthy and provides learning opportunities. Respect 🙏
Me encanta wtf porque son puras patadas y mucha velocidad y agilidad. Muy Ninjas 👍
igual el itf es mas realista
@@mirkomendoza entonces es lo mismo?
@@velxen77 osea yo no digo que sea mejor pero en situaciones de peligro real creo que el itf es mas efectivo
@@mirkomendoza ah si
Protegen mucho al de WTF, si fueran reglas de ITF, no hubiese aguantado el azul
Hermano, habrán otras peleas con las reglas del ITF, no hay necesidad de rebuscar para tirarle mierda al WTF. Fue una increíble pelea entre dos estilos diferentes, y si no estas conforme, pues no mires el vídeo y busca el de tu preferencia
Pues si wey son reglas distintas
@@PabloGonzalez-bs2pm si fue una buena pelea
what I personally found a bit shitty in ITF was, many did box and then came in TKD. Allways tryed to getting you in a short distance to make KO. With ITF I have only one question, what we does, kickboxing or taekwon-do? So definitely WTF did it well.
Fue una muy buena pelea de los dos chicos. Es el mejor video de wtf vs itf que se puede ver en la web hoy. La tecnica de cada uno es muy prolija y el estilo bien actualizado.
It must be uncomfortable for the ITF practicioner to make the sparring with that breastplate.
It is for both
@@lucasdaconceicao8587 no, not for both..only for wtf
Exactly
I'm happy to be in WTF taekwondo
Me too I feel like ITF players should respect WTF more like it is both Taekwondo I haven't met one WTF player who didn't respect or critisize the ITF style but every ITF player seems to have a total grudge of hatred towards WTF and finds everyway to bash it
Me too
Deadmeme siéntese señora use google translator to understand my Spanish 🙂
Potatoes Are Good For You as a person who does ITF I think that we should respect WTF more, I actually think that WTF sparring looks much better than ITF sparring
Salamonio ITF was created first before WTF and yes, usually WTF sparring mostly seems like use feet often than hands ITF use hands and feet but yeah although I’m an ITF tkd guy i admit wtf sparring looks fun and cool
It´s that in Dublin??
This is definetly WTF rules. Whenever they get close, they hug each other... But anyways, respect for those fighters
Taekwondo WTF:azul Taekwondo ITF :rojo
emilioSC 15 al revés. ..
Hago itf y wtf taekwando
@@julioalfonso3253 no está bien pq los de wtf no usan guantes tipo de boxeo no sé cómo se llaman los guantes >_
@@doublerival5421 yo solo wtf :3
@@julioalfonso3253 está bien
Si estan combatiendo con las reglas WT claramente ITF tendra desventajas, ya que utilizan mas los puños en zonas altas y medias, mas altas que nada, me atreveria a decir que usan 45% puños y el resto pateos, golpean de otra manera, debio ser con reglas ITF y WT aprender a bloquear mas la cabeza. PD: Practico WT, trato de defender lo justo
Interesante
Now I want to see them fight in a street fight rules(but using tae kwon do ofc)
Started WTF a few weeks back to add to my karate regime but it's too sport like lol
Me gustaria ver el mismo combate con reglas itf
I am the only that come here cause God of high school?
I practiced WTF for 7 years, I'm 3rd Kup... I had some interruptions so I got a bit late, I could be 1st Kup xD. Whatever, since I moved of my country, 3 years ago I stopped practicing, and now I want back in... But I'm woundering if I should keep on WTD cause I'm experient or if I should try something new, like WTF... And will I lose my belt? Opinions? Answers? :D
Well, that depends if the master of the school you going to practice accept your belt, like my master did, that he accept a green belt of karate to stay on that rank. Anyway, I don't think you stay with your belt on ITF cuz ITF have diferents poomsae and differents styles of combat.
+abdiel lopez karate has kata which are a lot different from poomsaes... so maybe I can switch to ITF and keep my belt
Like I said, depends on the master, like my master did, he lets that guy keep his belt because my master was a humble person and let him keep de green belt. But you can talk to the master of the ITF school you want to go, maybe he let you keep your belt. The only thing that really matters are the poomsae cuz the kicks are the same and the blocks, the fighting combat has a little change but just try to convince him or something. I hope you can keep it.
Can anybody tell me were can i learn ITF i live in texas,currently i am learning WTF, i am yellow belt and i am really wanting to learn ITF as it seems more better
Ay varias diferencias en el momento del combate entre itf y wtf quizás eso le juega en contra al itf
suerte que el de itf no puede usar manos xdd
Itf guy most likely agreed to fight in he’s rules. Hats off to both guys for training hard and sparring one another
the two styles are beautiful
ITF FTW
You guys forget that there's more to WTF than just kicking. Sparring isn't the whole martial art. In a sparring match there are rules that you must follow, the biggest difference between ITF and WTF Tkd sparring matches is that you can punch. In a real street fight a WTF fighter (like me) could easily dominate others when using self defense techniques and punches. WTF also uses punches a lot just not in the sparring part. That's the difference, the actual techniques are very similar since they both just branch off one another so the only real difference are the sparring RULES.
No Data it depends though. If you don't practice punches in sparring, how will you use it in a street fight. I don't practice Axe kick because punching is faster and I just don't like it. Since I don't use it in a controlled fight, I wouldn't be able to effectively use it in an uncontrolled. If you don't practice it it doesn't work, end of story.
I think it depends mainly on the martial artist rather than the martial art itself.
how many times did you fight in a street??? if you are only thinking about street fights then practice krab maga and END OF STORY...
Samuraineko I've taken Krav. I decided I like TKD better.
It is so wrong.. i do sanda, we spare with kicks, punches and throws... I practice that all the time, how do you think you can handle punches from a guy that can land punches on the face of people that are used to defend against that kind of Attack when you are not used to ? It's like thinking as an amateur boxer you could defeat a pro bower ! That's very delusional !
i enjoy that both were being aggresive and attacking and countering instead of dancing around
I currently do the WTF type of Taekwondo and I’m looking forward to sparring with an ITF with ITF rules. Maybe someday...
wow very good game and Red,Blue player respectbut... i think this fight rule is WTF taekwondo.so this game is advantage blue player.. Don`t u think so?i think WTF taekwondo is sports. ITF taekwondo is fight.if rule change the ITF , WTF taekwondo must loose..( i think!!!!!!!!)because WTF Kick = just point not Attack..im Korean taekwondo teacher..(WTF teacher)many people say taekwondo is just kickin... no.. never...use hand, finger, knee, elbow.. a lot of body move..but many old man secret history and change..very confuse :
+Christian Orderud all contact is allowed trust me
i used to be wtf
No
blue guy calls a point after falling flat on his face? wtf is up with that lol
JustOneLonelyKZheadr a turning kick to the face is worth 3 points so even if he falls and potentially gets a red card point lost, he still gains two points ahead.
GhenghisKhangai he gains points for failed kick? are you positive about that? because it is much easier to go for head kicks when you arent worried about falling
JustOneLonelyKZheadr The actual kick still landed, falling doesn't mean the kick did not land, so he still scores.
GhenghisKhangai so you are telling me falling is part of the kick?
He was deducted a point for falling not granted a point.
My question is what were the rules to their matches because ITF uses more of the Korean Kickboxing Art off Punches and Kicks
which is itf ? blue or red ?
Tae kwon do is the art of foot and hand not the art of foot
in my Opinion WTF have more amazing Strong kick and speed :) BTW hi guys i learn WTF taekwondo in indonesia !!!. what about you guys WTF or ITF ?
u sure ? wtf kicks hav speed but no power itf kicks abit slower but can deal much more dmg than wtf
Aaron Sim I don't practice taekwondo but Muay Thai, and in my opinion I liked the Blue one better considering he used speed which is one thing that counter strength all the time. And I've fought both ITF and WTF fighters, out of all of them the WTF fighters rely on "explosion" and timing.
Itf punch in the face..wtf will cry if fight in itf rules
Bope u wrong
@@linusjonsson9166 nope*
I am a little confused, why is he allowed to fight without foot gaurds?? is this a wtf thing? (not done taekwondo for that long)
Are they like having a banquet or party beside?
ahahahahah! next video suld be ju do vs TKD WTF under WTF rules.
Владимир Шпанко judo is going to get destroyed under WTF rules
Oh really? Thank you captain obvious
Владимир Шпанко you're welcome
TYPICAL KEY That's the point mate.
If the outcome is obvious why do you even want to see it
I have watched many fights for both WTF and ITF fighting other martial arts like Karate. I have never seen ITF showing the real skill of Tae Kwon Do in real fights other than throwing punches that don't even have impact on the opponent
finally, some clean TKD
What is the difference between ITF & Wtf
gano el peleador de wtf fue señalado
My fav part 5:18
Cake Awhh shit that was an amazing counter
Super six paths kurama mazaku saiyan mode blue you realise it was a fancy kick 🤦♂️ people actually don't use those alot like he did
This is an ITF invitational fight, so technically we are surrounded by ITF players. But the ref is WTF and while we try to be fair on rules, turns out to looks like WTF. The only thing that's lost in the rule is punching in the face. Hope that's fair enough.
If is just the punch dan I guess the ITF guys should also remove his leg shoes becoz it makes different.
@@kinkin4370 I myself is WTF so I really dont know what ITF rules all about. Im just assuming the difference is having or not having a punch on the face.
No son injustas pendejo
The god of high school RE...
Wtf rules, the Itf fighter can't block or punch to the face... it's like challenging a fish in water (Tkd Itf red belt by the way)
The true Taekwondo, ''Taekwondo ITF'' from General Choi Hong Hi (I am a red belt; almost a black belt) and... Taekwondo Wtf have some good fighters and it's too popular as sport, that's the difference, Itf is a martial art, wtf is a sport
Portugues não homem, fala Espanhol ou Inglês. Quão pouco o tradutor me ajudou a entender Vou te dar duas respostas, número um, eu tenho vídeos na internet, mas se eu tiver 3 medalhas Primeiro, eu não acho que melhor do que qualquer um desses lutadores e se eu acho taekwondo ITF é superior como arte marcial wtf. Eu não quero presucion ou humor a subestimar o esporte estilo taekwondo (wtf) Eu digo isso porque eu estou nesse mundo. Por favor, fale Espanhol ou Inglês.
In my opinion, tkd wtf is not a martial art, it's a sport of contact... and because of tkd wtf, ('cause almost nobody knows the difference) most of the people thinks taekwondo is bullshit comparing to another martial art, but they don't understand that wtf don't train punches or full contact moves, that's why if they don't get a lucky hit; they are not challenge for another real martial art. Although taekwondo wtf has incredible fighters, what is bullshit is the way that they turned taekwndo into a sport.
ITF is original TKD
No lo es
@@DavidVallejo337 Lee la historia del fundador. El general Choi
@@AlexisRx0 bueno
nice fight both of them got nice kicks
As a WTF Taekwondo athlete, this has got to be the most jank fight I've ever seen.
ITF is red
RatPepp nope
El competidor de WTF es superior en todo sentido, el de ITF solo abanicaba su pierna delantera mientras el otro le conectaba patadas potentes inclusive al rostro y cabeza. WTF gana!!
alex Pero En Una Situacion Real, Gana El De ITF
alex Pero por qué dices que es de itf el rojo?
Me parece más lógico que el de itf sea el azul ya que este ni tiene protecciones en los pies , seguro escogió no usarlas ya que en itf así se entrena
Julius Behemoth por el diseño de dobok
@@julioalfonso3253 el itf es el rojo
Can i use this video??😄😄😄👍👍😀😀😍😍😉
Both styles promote great techniques on effective combat but the true results is on each practicioner. Nice challenge here but the WTF rule to not hit the head with punches in my opinion is ridiculous on how unrealistic and limiting it is. At the same time WTF allows kicks in the back which is even worst , given that kicks are very much powerful that you can see on video, and can break bones of the back rather easy on well placed hits. Anyway regarding this fight, both fighters were agressive and I liked that, however the WTF practicioner was always falling to floor by himself. Risking everything on doing several spin kicks, but not having a good posture when finishing them. ITF fighter could have won this easily, by placing so many punches many times on the fight, and he just had to get with hands "stuck" because of that rule. Also that rule indirectly breaks the flow of many combinations of Kick and Punches combos. There are many techniques that force the opponent to block and be open for an instant punch in the head that can be K/O or at least big points on many situations. PS: why does the WTF fighter allowed to fight without protection on feets? that is a clear advantage also.
Itf is the real taekwondo. wtf is what happens the government get involved
No digas pendejadas
WTF rules.
SebastianMMA16 False
Brian Gonzalez I practice WTF and he's correct. The ITF is allowed to punch in the head too which he never did so it was definitely under WTF rules
can someone explain me the rules in WTF and ITF?....because i'm in MGTF(malaysia)
5:19 that back kick was insane 😮
The difference between styles is that ITF is better.
That’s awesome, now they should have ATA vs WTF, or ATA vs ITF, they’re all Taekwondo, it’s good to see practitioners from both TKD here together, is there other TKD organizations I think one is USATF
Seems to me that they fight based on WTF rules, which would mean that this is not WTF vs ITF. It would just be ITF practitioners doing WTF.
Good fight for both players!
Mark Wu yes!!💯
No victory no defeat the survivor will carry the title of boss.
Time to learn this
It was in New Zealand ?
yes bro
very good tehnique..used to train WTF...like your foot abillity. My favourite foot kick is spidjo čagi:)what is your specialty? like for TKD:)