DeTomaso Mangusta - Perfect as is? | Chip Foose Draws a Car - Ep. 18
Italian carmaker De Tomaso was well known for their Pantera sports car, but the Mangusta was both the Pantera's predecessor and named after an animal that's a natural predator to snakes like the venomous cobra. While this Italian sports car may or may not be a "cobra killer" in real life, there's no doubt it has a long, sleek and elegant design that Chip Foose appreciates. So let's see what he can do for this forgotten piece of Italian history.
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Chip drew my grandpa a sketch of his 32 ford that we still have to this day and it was my grandpas favorite picture. Thank you Chip for that.
Fluid lines into rolling art Pantera wow. Thank you Foose & De Tomaso
I'm glad that Foose chose not to mess with a perfectly designed car. The subtle tweaks are just what it needed.
That is Italian car designs from the Fifties and Sixties, they are all perfect and they aren't only cars, but they are in a group where don't need to change them because they are that good. Like a 1957 Ferrari GTO, you don't need to change it because you can't improve it.
I’ve always loved the De Tomaso Pantera and Mangusta.
The Mangusta is one of those cars that I have a love / hate feelings. Just like Foose my father bought me a model of that car. I always loved the design since I was 9 years old. One of my elementary school childhood friend Franco's father had 2 Italian sport cars. He owned a 1969 Maserati Ghibli and 1969 De Tomaso Mangusta. Franco's dad had his own construction company (typical Italian lol) and owned few apartment buildings. I recall his dad driving him to school in his red Ghibli and naturally all the boys drooled over that car. Lucky for me that Franco and I were close friends (am also Italian) so we got along much better. One time after school we went to his home and that when I saw his dad also had a Mangusta. LOVE at first sight lol. Ok ok I drooled. As much as I loved and rode in the Ghibli I had a weakness for the Mangusta (I now realized I never rode in that one) lol His father told me work smart and hard and you also can achieve your dreams. Franco and I would work for his dad during summer vacation cutting the lawns to his properties. $10 Dollars was alot for us 9 year olds a May West was a dime then lol. Fast forward 23 years later 1992 at age 32 I bought my Condo close to my childhood neighborhood for 130K. Few months later down the Boulevard less then 2 miles away, there was an independent gas station with a white Mangusta half covered for sale. One day after work I decided to go check it out, and asked the garage owner how much was he selling it for? He replied the car wasn't his and that it belongs to a widow who's selling it because of her husbands death. He gives me her number. Two days later I called and asked her how much was she selling it for? She replied $5000, like an idiot I ask her are you sure? She replies yes and asks me if I think shes asking too much for it? (Part of me wanted to say yes damn too much) lol She asks if I was interested I replied yes that i would need to go take a look at it again. So I go back to the gas station and ask the owner if I can remove the car cover completely in order to see the whole car. From the rear louvers to the back end the car was burned (engine fire I suppose) I hesitated. I talked to my older brother to get his opinion he came with me and looked at it (Big Mistake, my brother always has a negative mindset) He says why you want to spend $5000 on a car that burned it will cost you much more to fix. Now I have more doubts about buying it. That car was at the gas station lot for 5 freaking months. On that 5th month I had a High School reunion, and a childhood friend of mine, Mark, had his own mechanic/bodyshop business. I told mark I needed his professional advice and we went to see the car together. He looked at it over carefully we even asked the station owner if we can lift the car, to inspect under the car. Mark looked at it, said the body is no big deal can easily repair that, that the main frame is also in good condition. Said the engine you can either fix/rebuild or swap it. Mark told me just buy it and we will work out a budget and fix it in steps. I was super happy. The next day I go to the bank and make a certified cheque, I head to the gas station and I see this lady and some older guy looking over the car with the gas station owner. I had no idea she was the widow (thought it was the guys wife.) Finally The a-hole leaves (the beginning of my hate) lol I see the gas station owner and he introduces me to the widow. I was like Oh thought you were the gentleman's wife. I tell her glad to meet you I've decided to buy the car, here is a certified cheque for $5000. She replies I am so sorry that gentleman just bought the car. I just went numb, even thought of jumping in front of a city bus hahaha. You would think I learned my lesson, fast forward 13 yrs 2005, there was a used NSX great condition for 25K I hesitated again. 3rd time is a charm 1994 SL500 for 8K I saw I get it inspected I bought it all within 2 hours, and still have it to this day. Now I'm 61 yrs old, my 130K condo is worth $500k and that $5000 Mangusta (Could have been my Retirement Fund) is now worth between 185K to 320K (someone please shoot me.) Also another moral, never ask your pessimist big brother for any advice. I lost out on the Mangusta, and Cell Phones in its infancy. I asked him hey Raymond what do you think if I open a cell phone business? He replied are you crazy who going to spend $3000 (brick cell phones) only the rich people can afford, fast forward the whole world have them. His birthday is on April 2 he'll be 66, I'll punch him 2 times. 1 for making me hesitate on the mangusta and other for cell phone industry. lol.
I saw a Mangusta at Seabrook Beach, NH three years ago. It was out for a morning drive. Blue and with that rumbling V8. I knew it is extremely rare. And a delight to see it. Once in a lifetime not ever to be seen again. Stunning! Also those French curves Mr. Foose employs are just as sleek. Just as old school. PS I am very old. And since a kid I too prefer the sleek Mangusta over the more baroque and busy Pantera.
I have to agree. We had two Geese in our club. It was a red one that took my breath away. Beautiful car.
As a longtime Pantera owner, I think the Mangusta is one of the most beautiful auto designs of all time even if its driving characteristics were not as stellar. I was down at Pantera International Motorsports about a week ago, and they've got a couple of them down there that they're working on. Just as striking in person as in a drawing. Foose's "less is more" approach to this car earns him a lot of respect from me. Love the color!
You said it, the C8 needs to be cleaned up.. would love to see what that would look like.
i think it Foose you take a crack at the new C8 and see how he'd make it his own
Foose always amaze me with his drawing his so good
Excellent idea, Chip, I like the car and I like what you did to it, very subtile changes, enough to make it a step up. Thanks for spending a little bit of your time with us. B.T.
Foose is a real artist! although the Mangusta is already almost perfection!
I love every single drawing of Foose!!!!
OMG... Mangusta is one of my favs, along w Pantera. I grew up in L.A. there was one residing in Playa Del Rey. I've owned a Citroen SM - so that makes me a fan of the Maserati Merak & Bora, as well. that said, The DeTomaso's look far better, to me. Still looking for that 'affordable' Pantera project car LOL
Foose is such an amazing illustrator to showcase his just as amazing less is more designs
That is one beautiful piece of steel, the wheels you got spot on!! Awesome!!
Frickin’ beautiful car...... the wheelarces are fenomenal
I always liked the Porsche 904 gts but never saw this. It is gorgeous!
Mister GENIUS in action😊. Thank you Chip!!
Good on Chip to acknowledge some cars designs do not need updates and are timeless. A nod to designer Giorgetto Giugiaro's brilliance!
And yet he butchered the DeLorean last week. LOL
Long time admirer of the Foose Design Ethos. Polarizing. Trend setting. Intriquing. One master, REDIFINES a modern masterpiece? The Mangusta? Its truth has withstood your careful scrutiny and shone most brightly. Markerlight relocation. Stance, wheeel, color change. Subtle and modern. Color accents the lines better. The gills behind the door windows appear more attractive as well. Steve Mcqueen would drive this in the Italian version of Bullit. Get one and do it Chip!
I went to design school and changed my life because of Chip Foose sketches hanging on the wall of my work place. It was 1998 and I was working as a grunt at a car prototyping place in Santa Barbara. They had some of Chip's sketches on the wall that looked like early Prowler concepts. I would always ask the boss ablout them, who drew them, how he learned how to ect. I ended up working my tail off and going to design school. Chip is a great inspiration!
Not like me off course but Go Go Car design better and better
The eye for flow, balance and the importance of color can only be possessed by a true artist. In the future, Chip be listed among the greatest artists of our time! (if not already!) Thank you for sharing your talent with us Chip!
A legend drawing a legendary car Mr chip foose
I used to have a 71 Pantera and it was an adventure every single time I'd take it out... but the Mangusta was always on my mind
I'd like to see Chip's interpretation of the 49-51 Mercury. It seems like a million have been customized (many poorly) and I'm sure Chip would come up with a fresh approach.
I'm glad you didn't change much, Mangusta's are beautiful cars!
Nice drawing skills. This guy might make it in the custom coachbuilding industry someday.
I love the color you came up with...perfect for that car! Mangusta is so beautiful to begin with so i appreciate the subtle changes.
Incredible talent Mr Foose, I could watch you all day. I think you have one of our paintings that was bought for you as a gift.
I am sitting here imagining Chip foose redoing or just doing a drawing of my 79 Thunderbird Town landau. Hey a guy can dream. Chip foose is one of my favorite if not my favorite customizer in this generation.
Very nice. Always a thumbs up. Always an absolute pleasure to watch.
Your a class act Chip. Thanks for sharing your art and insight on the Mangusta a beautiful car. The world is better place with guys like you in it.
Forget about how much talent this guy has, I just want some of his hair!
Crazy that Chip sketches in pen right out of the gate. That's years of confidence and rendering. Respect.
I was a young boy, saw the Mangusta at the Montreal car show in 1967 and the Dino 246gt too, thoses 2 cars remain my two favorite for live
Simple, elegant and beautiful designs are always better than the C8, Lambo, Camaro etc christmas trees they serve up to us today.
chip foose has gold hands damn thisan make everything incratable wow i watched this vidio over 500 times i still do
I'd love to have that for my living room! Favorite car ever! Great choice of subtle changes to a masterpiece
stunning work Chip...i could watch your vids all day...
Pure pleasure watching Chip design/redesign a car.
this is the best car design i have everr seen
I wasn't really familiar with this car but thanks to Chip I have another new favorite car. As always your drawings are amazing. I went to Graduate School at an Art College and my roommate for my first year was also in the Graduate Program studying Graphic Design and I remember his drawings and art style being very similar. His work was brilliant and he later became an Instructor there as well as working in the industry. The skills he was being taught then we're both in this tradition but he also was learning all sorts of stuff with Photoshop simultaneously. I still love seeing this style of art practiced by a master and showcased here. I am going to have to research this car more. I hope the interior is as nice as the outside. It is really a work of art and engineering.
As a graphic designer I'm envious of his skills with the Pantone markers. As a car fan I loved watching this because DeTomasos were some of my favourite cars as a kid. Especially the Pantera when I found out they had an Aussie V8 under the bonnet.
Hi Chip, I'm lucky to have a pantera...However I've always admired the mangusta as well . like your image ! It was a pleasure meeting you over the years through industrial finishes.
Chip Foose, perfect subtle changes. Love the Mangusta, Pantera & the Longchamp. I have been fortunate to see a real Mangusta. Just beautiful. Black on black.
"I want one." Me too!
I was worried he was going to mod the car. I love Foose's taste & design and he reaffirmed this by NOT touching this car. He knows what he is on about. Fun fact originally the Mangusta was to be called the Shelby mkV ( Chip alludes to this)
Very pretty car, absolutely love the rear end treatment especially the integration of the tail lights.
Oh yeah ....Chip. I love watchin you draw that Mangusta. Nice choice of green...i agree.If it was mine....I would opt for chrysler "moonstone"metallic brown with blackouts....or an burnt orange "FooseFade" on the runnin boards n wheel arches n front splitter /chin spoiler....on a cherryblack paintjob...with a hint of purple pearl in the clearcoat finish. BOSS
As allways a Master Art-Design! Great Job ✨👌🏼
that lime color so sweet insane gorgeous car
Great colour. But greater talent. You rock Chip!!
Amazing drawing! I wish I could get a copy.
It’s so relaxing watching Chip draw in all his brilliance, unfortunately the music isn’t very relaxing.
Better then a printer, Foose is the best!
My two favorite classic sports cars are the Mangusta and the Pantera. Honorable mention to the Ferrari 512 BB.
Chip - I wish you would sell limited edition signed prints or lithos of your drawings!
Some are available. Check his website.
Mangusta and the Miura two cars that it's a sin to change a body line on.
Gorgeous.
Magic hands and magic eye!!!
Chip foose você nasceu pra isso cara, parabéns, muito top seus trabalhos, aqui de fortaleza Ceará curtindo seus video, deus abençoe sempre.
this man is geniius drawing wise foose is the best
Nicely done. As a Pantera owner, I've always lusted after the Mangusta too, but my 6'2" frame would never fit in one. The only design feature that ever bothered me was the rear wheel well gap between tire and wheel arch. That's nicely addressed here with the big fatties + the flares. I love it.
Beautiful!! I can't wait to see it! :D
Stunning!
I'm with you Chip, the Mangusta is one of my all time favorites.
Chip Foose I liked your design and your show Thank you very much
Great work!
@3:00 The P70 as it has been called the last 10 years, was the original DeTomaso Ghia Sport 5000. It was a Pete Brock design built at Carrozzeria Fantuzzi.
Olive green has always been one of my favorite colors. It has substance.
really? I hate it on a car..but it's been popular before..sports cars only come in one color...red...call me crazy
@@andrefecteau Probably a lot more people agree with you than me. But that's alright. :)
@@sammcbride2149 dude, I get it, was very popular in early 70s, if Ford doesn't put out a yellow Mustang they catch hell about it...ahh what makes the world go round
Cool look now! You know what makes style. 😎👍
It took a while for the Mangusta to reach prominence. My neighbor had one back in the late 70's. I'd never seen anything so beautiful. He did point out that the cowling area on top of the front fender had a weakness that would cause that area to bulge over time.
Foose is master at small details.
It's almost as if he's done this sort of thing before. I owned a Eurospec '69 Maserati Ghibli for a few years, another classic coupe. Drove like a truck, but a glamorous truck.
I like that Chip embraces earth tones so much.
Hardly a change in the drawing ... I’m looking how sexy that car is and saying “ how can anyone make that car more sexy than it is ... even that color .... wow great job Foose ! ✌🏼👍🏻❤️
Nice
Haha, yeah that lime green metallic was on everything 'bout 1970 including my winning entry in a model contest local to your shop. Yes the Mangusta looks much more sinister in a dark color which you never see them in. You might have John Player-ed it up a bit with satin brass wheels and trim but I like the rendering as is. If I knew my way around a marker like you I would have made that kit car-ish looking marker light a long sliver and made the door handle the same like those dope flip out 300sl gullwing ones. I worked with a guy ages ago who sold his Mangusta to pursue his dream of building a 3 wheeled enclosed Honda powered futuristic looking vehicle called the Phantom (Ron Will).
Stunning
I would like to see Chip's version of the Zonda or Huayra (cars from the other Italian factory funded also by an Argentinian)
financiados y diseñados por un Argentino
Fabulous artist
i will choose foose as a best car designer probably ever besides his talented in his art work and building cars
Yes! Amazing!!!
Chip, perfect job!!! Mangusta looked never better!
It still amases me how many people rave about panteras but ignore the much better looking older brother
Giugiaro is a genius , less can be more.
my friend let's go for a cruise, Chip 🙋♂️🍻🇨🇦
chip foose deserve a medal for car designing industry
i love how chip foise drops this cars its not eazy line this wheels or shade them wile u draw no wonder he is good look at does wheels so elegant done so right
Amazing
G'Day from South Australia. Yes I share your love.....of em too. Your show rates well down under on 9rushTV😆😎👍👌✊✌✋👊
Yep.. making marker work look rich and smooth without airbrush aint easy.
Bravo! We need a place to make requests! Mine is '67 Eldorado. So close to being really, really good.
Respect, but the only change that made an improvement for me was slightly re locating the front signal marker. I wouldn't even touch the wheels. What a car though !!
Beautiful
Amazing.
I dream of winning the lottery just so I can have Chip Foose do drafts of my cars.
On 6:36 min you can clearly see side by side, that the Original has a shorter Roof Section (between A-Pillar and B-Pillar on the Top) and a slimmer Frontend. Personally I would prefer the original One. It's the better Design. I'm also a big Fan of the Mangusta, designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro at Ghia, and see it clearly ahead of the later Pantera, designed by Tom Tjaarda. Because I can not afford a Mangusta these Days, I'm owning a Maserati GranTurismo (MY 2018), also a big Hit from Italy and a great Design by Jason Castriota under the Guidance of Frank Stephenson. Both are excellent Designers too.
I agree with you Chip, the C8 could have been a beautiful car much like the Mangusta. I was hoping they would go back to their mid engine prototypes that have that simple elegant design. I was hoping they would use curves not angles. The C8 has grown on me but it could have been a show stopper going back to basics without over designing.
A fanboy of Mangusta here. Till I die.