Taken from JRE #1921 w/Peter Zaihan: open.spotify.com/episode/406f...
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The only thing I know for certain is that Joe should have this guy back on in a decade and play back this entire interview and see how it compares to what actually happened with China.
@trepan4944 Жыл бұрын
his grift is done by that point no longer doing interviews LOL
@therearenoshortcuts9868 Жыл бұрын
@@TheVoiceofTheProphetElizer 💯🤣so true
@wilhelmhesse1348 Жыл бұрын
He should have a lot of guests back, that have their theories, and see if any of them were right.
@Aww-Geez Жыл бұрын
this guy never been to china, doesn't speak chinese, and has never talked to a actual chinese peer who lives in china to verify his "research". This guy is a typical western hack who pretends to understand china
@levelazn Жыл бұрын
@@therearenoshortcuts9868 glad it just isn't me that thinks this guy has major flaws in his thinking here.
@paddyFND Жыл бұрын
Joe should have him on again in 10 years and see how this plays out.
@nealb8752 Жыл бұрын
Joe dies in April of 2028 unfortunately.
@firefly9838 Жыл бұрын
He’ll be laughing all the way to the bank in 10 years
@4bidden1 Жыл бұрын
He'll say "Give it another 10 years or so'.
@eXpressYourselfClips Жыл бұрын
I'm a Chinese, I know China is dying under Emperor Xi. He has been blinded by his enablers and CCP has made all the wrong moves ever since Hu Jintao's era. China will be half dead in 3 years time.
@supertuesday600 Жыл бұрын
His 2014 book predicted until 2022 when the boomer mass retirement hits. And his 2022 book predicts the next 8 years. He hasn’t been wrong except how strong Russia was (which the whole world was wrong about)
@markgarcia8253 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure this guy know alot and has some good points, but expresses everything with 100% certainty. I've never met a competent person that does that
@larsmichael624211 ай бұрын
He is a charlatan. I can spot one from miles. I'm italian.
@quitanero10 ай бұрын
That’s what happens when someone is in so much love with their own idea, they lose touch with reality 😅
@CAROLN7910 ай бұрын
He provides no evidence for any of his claims.
@DannyWeil9 ай бұрын
@@DannyWeil He predicted Ukraine and Brexit back in his 2016 book, right to the year it happened.
@michaeldobson1079 ай бұрын
yup the more i learn, the less i know.. anyone that is certain of ANYTHING is immediately a red flag to me
@1x0x9 ай бұрын
Analyst, one of the only jobs that doesn't get you in trouble when you're wrong.
@albertrodriguez192311 ай бұрын
Exactly. He saying things without support or facts
@elg736510 ай бұрын
And meteorologists
@jacobfink843210 ай бұрын
I agree. He said a couple of things I just happen to know are not correct, so it puts what he is saying in doubt in my mind. China has its serious social and economic issues for sure, but Europe is a total mess, and the US has a corrupt administration that will not allow anything but the approved narrative to be given as intel to the president. A former CIA agent, Larry Johnson, stated in an interview that for a while now, anyone who gives an honest report that does not fit the wanted narrative will just be removed or never get advanced, so everyone tells the administration what it wants to hear.
@SeekingPleroma10 ай бұрын
First 4 letters is trouble enough. Hey oooo, zinnnng.
@thepkeezy9 ай бұрын
And this guy just makes assumptions. He has no evidence for any of his claims be it China or the US. This guy is a capitalist. and he is on the wrong side of history. Saying Xi murders people and not coming up with any evidence is absurd. What a waste. Good reason to stay away from America.
@DannyWeil9 ай бұрын
He's either the greatest bullshitter to ever live, or is truly confident in his information
@taylorlevesque9405 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, one or the other at an extreme level.
@Robb1n11 Жыл бұрын
He's the greatest bullshitter to ever live
@TooManyAdrians Жыл бұрын
Yeah I take everything I hear on JRE with a massive grain of salt.
@JDGuitar82 Жыл бұрын
Bullshitter
@Rtiomas Жыл бұрын
He was right about Ukraine to the week. Predicted something like 4 or 5 years ago.
@TheNerdForAllSeasons Жыл бұрын
I just hope I survive another 10 years to come back to this video
@russcastella Жыл бұрын
Dude SERIOUSLY this dude is rocking a man bun spouting the future. How tf can anyone believe this shit his predictions are based on sooooo many specific smaller predictions like you’d need a year to actually lay out his timeline of shit that’s “supposed” to happen
@Vaser1013 Жыл бұрын
How bad could it get? I mean, global recession, 30th variant of Covid, War in Ukraine, possible invasion of Taiwan, interest rates/inflation, massive global debt, climate change, artificial intelligence, civil war, the plague, vaxxed up kids, 3D printed guns and fentanyl in your McDonald's. I think we're looking pretty, pretty good. Of course I'm an optimist though.
@powershift2024 Жыл бұрын
That'd mean you'd make it to the premier of his new book - "China only has 10 more years left, this time for real, trust me bro"
@torginus Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you're not the online 👍🏻🤣🤣🤣
@robertennew Жыл бұрын
Remind me 10 years
@man8god Жыл бұрын
Joes ability to ask the right questions at the right time is unmatched.
@Xehemoth10 ай бұрын
Active listener
@lawless716610 ай бұрын
I wish Joe had asked what the guy meant by "remake the human condition" and "overhaul what being human means"
@Jascle0310 ай бұрын
Respectfully disagree. Heavily dependant on the guest imo.
@JCPoetryCourner10 ай бұрын
Lex is amazing at questions too
@rogerwelsh233510 ай бұрын
Its not that hard , especially when the other person be talking gibberish
@Nopanop9 ай бұрын
As someone who will most definitely end up depending on social security and my own savings to survive, the statements he made about not having enough workers to pay into the social security system is very frightening. I do not want to end up depending on my children to take care of me and support me. I worked from the age of 14 up until 4 years ago where I was in a terrible accident and I am no longer able to work. It eats me up inside because I don't like the fact that my fellow Americans now provide for me and I wanted more for myself and my family. Im not the smartest man either and I don't understand geopolitics and economic structures, but I understand that our future isn't going to be as bright as we all thought it would be. Corrupt Politicians filling their own pockets, Social Media destroying our youth and mainstreaming dancing moms and Onlyfans as the way to be, and on and on. I still have hope...but only a small amount.
@Doom069010 ай бұрын
You might be down but your not out. If you have a computer then you have an infinite way to make money. People all over the world work from behind a desk. You can do it from home. And if you can't then learn.
@Dead_Empire10 ай бұрын
@@Dead_Empireabsolutely. And the gig economy. I haven’t had an official job with an official boss in a year, yet I’m paying to go to school, renting my own house, and still living comfortably doing work I actually wnjoy
@bigpapi668810 ай бұрын
You boomers should have passed down more of your wealth to your next generation. boomers caused this.
@ryananderson520210 ай бұрын
oh, theyve known the social security system is fucked....anyone under 50 isnt gonna get shit back
@Scorch42810 ай бұрын
better buy bitcoin, dude...
@Scorch42810 ай бұрын
He's right about the bad signs. But these systems are so complex it is not easy to project two years out, let alone ten.
@mdleweight Жыл бұрын
Zeihan said 6 months ago that Russia would be in Poland and Moldova by now. He's a state department/CIA shill which seem to all get spots on JRE btw...
@FamiliarAnomaly Жыл бұрын
Regardless though I think his overall prognosis is correct, even if the time scaling is off.
@dimitrijejovanovich6488 Жыл бұрын
I love his information, he is extremely well read. However his predictions don't seem to take human reaction into account.
@laststand6420 Жыл бұрын
Well, the story sells something he's trying to sell in the long run. I.e work, book, website/social media. Just say something extreme and watch the money pile
@kyleyoung7980 Жыл бұрын
@@laststand6420 agreed. To give him credit, though, I think that the human element of these situations is often over stressed. People are more reactive than proactive.
@dimitrijejovanovich6488 Жыл бұрын
It's wild how bad people are at predictions a decade away. I remember when geopolitical experts were saying China is going to become a liberal democracy when we started trading with them and they couldn't have been more wrong
@MrJJacks7 Жыл бұрын
I mean, China still could be a liberal Democracy. China has a lot of incentive to become one. It just depends on how long the Communist are planning to put their control and power over the well being of their people.
@tylergannon7398 Жыл бұрын
There's more freedom in China than in the US.
@jimmytimmy3680 Жыл бұрын
So now maybe theft should understand the skepticism towards global warming. Fifty years of predictions and none have been correct...
@drewskij2175 Жыл бұрын
I mean its not really wild though . A lot changes in 10 years😂
@Tyed10 Жыл бұрын
@truthabovethetruth2167 why not just link to the fucking forum?
@CalmNoises Жыл бұрын
as a Chinese who on the half way of "running' away from there . the situation is more serious than he described
@eeeee499767 ай бұрын
How bad is it ?
@user-vl6zk6dp3g7 ай бұрын
extremely bad . unemployment rate , property bubble, banks no income due to huge debts default, everyone wants to be an officer instead of individual entrepreneurs @user-vl6zk6dp3g
@eeeee499767 ай бұрын
Just stay where you are
@stuartkerr5872Ай бұрын
why? @@stuartkerr5872
@eeeee49976Ай бұрын
fake chinese
@lollymannaАй бұрын
It's usually people here in China has a more pessimistic(and arguably more realistic) view of ourselves than those outside voices which constantly boasting China taking the world by storm the next decade. So it's refreshing to hear someone sounded even more pessimistic than us. The truth is always in the middle, we're not gonna disappear in the next 10 years or rule the world by then.
@fateriddle1411 ай бұрын
People in China have KZhead? I read in credible newspapers that you guys can't have Facebook or KZhead or anything not controlled by the CCP how are you on KZhead? Are you really in China?
@denisemilfort458110 ай бұрын
China is still growing though.
@tommyscott908510 ай бұрын
@@tommyscott9085 no it's not, one Chinese official said that figures like GDP are made up and got fired soon after that, Premier Li.
@niweshlekhak964610 ай бұрын
@@tommyscott9085ccording to their own data and it has been proven is manipulated to the extreme.
@javiersp9 ай бұрын
Thank you for your candor. Our leaders aren't so great either. They want to divide and conquer us.
@OneAdam12Adam9 ай бұрын
This guy is good at talking, but I'm always skeptical of people talking with certainty about incredibly complex topics.
@andreamazzeo4306 Жыл бұрын
He does talk doesn’t he lol?
@Canadiancromagnon Жыл бұрын
He thinks he's got it all figured out.
@jessefay4984 Жыл бұрын
@@jessefay4984 That is usually a good sign someone missed something critical.
@TheEVEInspiration Жыл бұрын
@@jessefay4984 not hard if you actually do research and see the current state of china
@Duality0- Жыл бұрын
he's a state department/cia shill
@FamiliarAnomaly Жыл бұрын
He’s probably the most humble guy he knows.
@tayldahl1 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@BigCC16 Жыл бұрын
Never saw a mirror he didn’t like
@skeezix8156 Жыл бұрын
Seriously he starts answering questions immediately and says answers with condescending tones peppered through out. Can’t wait fir his career to be over when his theories prove wrong
@Vaser1013 Жыл бұрын
@@Vaser1013 it will prove wrong . Peter Zeihan is another typical stupid arrogant racist white folks that just love to talk craps 💩 about China with Nasty anti China rhetoric HAHAHAHA LOL 😂😂😂😂👍👍👍🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺!!!
@dannytadashi4235 Жыл бұрын
💯😂
@oliverschlesinger6744 Жыл бұрын
Peter Zaihan has been saying this for years now. Predicting China's failure sells his books.
@eggmcmarty9 ай бұрын
Yet, it's the polar opposite of him saying anything... 🤣🤣 Zaihan is a joke, is a clown. He ain't know anything about Geopolitics, he's just a cock-enlargement snake oil salesman tbh.
@wahyu.muliady3 ай бұрын
The man visualises a possible path the future might take and runs hard with it. Obviously, this is one possibility. One out of many. But I like the way he dives into it and runs through it.
@ArtypNk6 ай бұрын
Is it just me or does anyone else not trust a damn thing anyone says about anything anymore…?
@elitisthavoc3949 Жыл бұрын
Peter has been right about way too many things
@paulc8588 Жыл бұрын
@Chain NVSTR well that’s a you problem.
@ProudCommie Жыл бұрын
Everyone has an agenda these days and that makes it difficult to separate the truth from the lies.
@triplebeans4159 Жыл бұрын
I think that was the overall objective of all this crazy shit going on these last few years.
@c_dubbzz6127 Жыл бұрын
no, I just do not trust what he is saying
@alanjimenezchirinos1396 Жыл бұрын
If the last 3 years taught me anything, it's that these "expert analysts" do a heck of a lot guessing..
@DermalDeviations Жыл бұрын
Yes and also with extreme confidence that they are telling facts and not just guessing.
@andrewdishman26 Жыл бұрын
That's not an argument.
@anypercentdeathless Жыл бұрын
u just follow hype anti china in last 3 year but u know nothing LOL ,all china problem today is really nothing compared to their problem 20-30 year ago when they still poor ,like protest in tianamen ,falun gong protest ,terorist attack xinjiang,tibet protest, thats even worst and more chaotic just search all video but china success through it and solve all their problem ,so what make u think today china will collapse soon ? use ur brain a bit 🤣🤣🤣🤣 here western propaganda failed prediction about china since 30 year ago 1990 The Economist : china's economy has come to a halt 1996 The Economist : China's economy will face a hard landing 1998 The Economist : China's economy entering a dangerous period of sluggish growth 1999 Bank of Canan : likelihood of a hard landing for the chinese economy 2000 Chicago Tribune China currency move nails hard landing risk coffin 2001 Wilbanks,Smith & Thomas : A hard landing in China 2001 gordon chang and his comedy book "The Coming Collapse of China" 2002 Westchester University : China anxiously seeks a soft economic landing 2003 New York Times : Banking crisis imperils China 2004 The Economist : The grea fall of China? 2005 Nouriel Roubini : The Risk of a Hard Landing in China 2006 International Economy : Can China Achieve a Soft Landing? 2007 TIME : Is China's Economy Overheating? Can China avoid a Hard landing? 2008 Forbes : Hard Landing in china? 2009 Fortune : China's Hard landing China must find a way to recover 2010 Nouriel Roubini : Hard landing coming in China 2011 Business Insider : A Chinese Hard landing May be clcoser than you think 2012 American Interest : Dismal economic news from china : a hard landing 2013 Zero Hedge : A Hard landing in China 2014 CNBC : A hard landing in China 2015 Forbes : Congratulations ,you got yourself a chinese hard landing 2016 The Economist : Hard landing looms for China 2017 National Interest : Is China's Economy going to crash ? source : quora/Godfree-roberts
@LOLLOL-kg4dz Жыл бұрын
@@anypercentdeathless True. It's an observation.
@keithd2284 Жыл бұрын
ok
@theWazimu Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe people still take this guy seriously
@Dflootie11 ай бұрын
Well the establishment produce these types 😂
@vanfja11 ай бұрын
@@vanfja he’s literally the most pro establishment guy ever
@Dflootie11 ай бұрын
This is a super important video to watch....you will hear NONE of this from the US media.
@mboiko8 ай бұрын
That's bc this guy is full of it
@TheRichLA7 күн бұрын
@@TheRichLA You seem confused... "China’s Population Falls, Heralding a Demographic Crisis...Deaths outnumbered births last year for the FIRST time in Six Decades. Experts see MAJOR implications for China, its Economy, and the World." - From the New York Times 1/2023 - To the 16K people who disliked this video...time to wake up.
@mboiko6 күн бұрын
It's always weird to me when someone's super confident about the future
@Berdymadafakas Жыл бұрын
That is because you are not a student of history.
@raveporn Жыл бұрын
He's not wrong and other people are sounding the alarm about this.
@SpiritualSchmuck Жыл бұрын
“Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future.” ― Niels Bohr
@kev3d Жыл бұрын
@@raveporn LOL, you can only learn from history, not predict the future, as good as that may sound in movies and books.
@shredseeker8420 Жыл бұрын
Remember what happened when Hitler took the guns
@ghagzor Жыл бұрын
Joe stressing like he's the one who gotta fix all 😂
@HAF1O2 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@n00bma5ter69 Жыл бұрын
He kinda is
@neuvisean1739 Жыл бұрын
Leave him alone 😢the guy is just trying to fit everything into his head. He interviews a crazy variety of people a few times a week
@MrHeHim Жыл бұрын
Joe's looking tired!
@paulgarmey2857 Жыл бұрын
Crying lol
@ActionJacksonForever Жыл бұрын
How can a geopolitical analyst say an entire country will just 'go away'? The situation he is describing in China is the same exact situation in every developed country.
@Will-jw5oc11 ай бұрын
He speaks in a way that makes it sound a bit dramatic, but I don't think that's quite what he is saying. The economical/agricultural collapse would look similiar to the way Cuba or possibly venezuela looks at the moment. I checked most of his claims and they seem to check out. It's a bit unsettling.
@degraw5210 ай бұрын
Exactly. I couldn’t even make out what he meant by done. Seems like he’s specifically referring to their economy having a downturn. It will still be viable as long as people work. There’s just a ton of hyperbole in here that is off putting.
@ibroughtreceipts10 ай бұрын
He’s conveying that the CCP will dissolve there will be a massive economic and agricultural collapse causing the deaths of millions possibly.
@christiank652518 күн бұрын
I know people living in China, and it's easy to give a overall view of a country from the outside. But if you saw Germany in 1925 you would never think they'd be the powerhouse they were in 1937. This guy is a western hopeful. But it's not easy to predict the future Trust me when I say his Chinese counterpart is giving the same predictions on our countries. Australia Germany UK USA new Zealand I mean the list goes on. I hope nothing but the best for China and Russia for their people, people just like us God bless the world ❤️
@thepaperybull292111 ай бұрын
You're wrong actually. I grew up in China and attended elementary school and middle school there. Even in our education system, we are constantly told by teachers and parents on how America is #1
@joshuaxie42698 ай бұрын
@@joshuaxie4269 well ok. I maybe wrong about that but I don't think I'm wrong about wishing the best for your people, live well friend
@thepaperybull29218 ай бұрын
@@thepaperybull2921 List of Countries the US has Bombed Since the End c WWII (may be incomplete) Korea and China 1950-53 (Korean War) Guatemala 1954, 1960 Indonesia 1958 Cuba 1959-61 Vietnam 1961-73 Laos 1964-73 Belgian Congo 1964 Dominican Republic 1965--66 Peru 1965 Guatemala 1967-1969 Cambodia 1969-1970 Nicaragua 198OS El Salvador 1980s Lebanon 1982-84 Grenada 1983 Lebanon 1983, J 1984 (Lebanese, Syrian targets) Iran 1987 Panama 1989 Iraq 1991 (First Gulf War); 1991- 2003 (US/UK "NO Fly Zone") Kuwait 1991 Somalia 1992--94; 2007 Bosnia 1994-1995 Iran 1997 Sudan 1998 Afghanistan 1998 Yugoslavia 1999 Afghanistan 2001--ongoing Iraq 2003 (Second War--more recently predator drones) Yemen 2002, 2009 Libya 1986, 2011
@jacksmith-mu3ee6 ай бұрын
This guy simultaneously strikes as someone full of fascinating information, and someone you really shouldn't trust.
@sweetdangerzack Жыл бұрын
Chinese have survived for more than 5000 years, They are not going away. This guy is delutional washington hack thinktank and his analysis based on journal papers.. You know Joe, there are door knobs in Beijing's Tiananmen square that are two times older than the whole Country of United States. So are the Italians, Japanese, Indians, Chinese, French or the Russians. All of them have a civilisation and a National identity that goes beyond last 500 years.. And You know what could go away? A nation with no racial or historical identidy such as United States. It might actually just disapear 100 years from now.
@richardv9648 Жыл бұрын
yeah a classic traveling bard
@richardmackenzie1878 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad people are able to read between the lines on Zeihan. I read his book and loved it, learned so much. But he ends up drawing all the wrong the conclusions. He's a real globalist, imperialist shill, with serious blinders regarding our position in history. His work is great, but he really should be ignored outside his technical expertise.
@NextExiter Жыл бұрын
Do some research on his background, the team of researchers he has working for him, his books, not to mention the governments and corporations that pay him for his analysis. You might get a slightly more rounded view than from one short podcast clip…
@yellowledbutter Жыл бұрын
Pro vaccine sounds like it- He believes in vaccine immunity tells me He is a bullshitter
@Nimyra Жыл бұрын
It's hard to trust someone who speaks with impossible certainty.
@BigHugeYES Жыл бұрын
I think there is a certain kind of people who actually love it and fall for it
@karimshebeika8010 Жыл бұрын
Look, I get that. But image if you were him, trying to make a living in his chosen landscape? Can we at least agree that he would surely fail if he spoke with complete indecisiveness?
@ivanjulian2532 Жыл бұрын
@@karimshebeika8010FACTS, this is how people are like a cult for Andrew tate😂 it’s just manipulation folks
@reklezzz9038 Жыл бұрын
I know people like this in real life. They're difficult to interact with and very arrogant. Absolutely can't trust this Peter Z guy at all.
@Demoniaco Жыл бұрын
He's wrong in some things. For example that Xi wasn't informed about the invasion of Ukraine. He was. The things that Zaihan are saying are mostly daydreams. I can sympathize in his hopes, but it's not helping anyone spreading misinformation.
@mplovecraft Жыл бұрын
Wow! 😮 this was very informative.
@brookerangel-legris2 ай бұрын
This guy is relating the outcome of trends, in reality, in their day to day life, people and governments tend to steer things farther away from disaster than those who predict it. IE things are usually never as bad as the naysayers say they will be. The people who said the world will end in ten years, ten years ago for example, and there was no shortage of them, yet here we all are.
@Spaceflightlover20108 ай бұрын
I want him to come back on Joe Rogan 10years later
@lapchurng Жыл бұрын
I bet that what he says doesn't come true, it's wishful thinking IMO
@b00ts4ndc4ts Жыл бұрын
he'll probably be dead
@sleepyjoe4529 Жыл бұрын
he said the same stuff in 2010, will probably be repeating it in 2030 as well.
@theboringchannel2027 Жыл бұрын
@@theboringchannel2027 I'd be interested to see that if you have a source. People have been predicting the demographic, political, or economic collapse of China for a long time. I wonder if they're just flat misreading the situation, or if China is making policy adjustments.
@crusherven Жыл бұрын
@@theboringchannel2027 Proof?
@zairman Жыл бұрын
Cherish those who seek truth, but beware of those who found it.
@WastedWastelander Жыл бұрын
That sounds smart to dumb people lol
@menaceproductionz909 Жыл бұрын
John 14:6
@AIIRHEAD11 Жыл бұрын
Precisely.
@danielmgalhaes Жыл бұрын
@@AIIRHEAD11 John spitting facts
@daquaviousbingleton9763 Жыл бұрын
Chinese proverb?
@PIRAKAS666 Жыл бұрын
Things coming true day to day
@bryanzee37146 ай бұрын
Three months later and the amount of tech companies pulling out of China is huge.
@LithaMoonSong11 ай бұрын
"tech" companies lol doesnt really matter much . The chinese already has some home grown popular tech companies. Well nearly every country has to a certain extent
@Yu-hx5jo11 ай бұрын
@@Yu-hx5jo what tech companies like Tencent, Bytedance bruh it is nothing compared to like big tech companies in the West like Apple, Google, Microsoft, ETC
@ritwikrahuljena281511 ай бұрын
@@ritwikrahuljena2815 China ain't collapsing due to 'lack' of Western tech companies lmao It's a giant manufacturing powerhouse with a very skilled labour force. Apple co. Needs china more than China currently needs Apple As I said being totally dependent on a service based economy is never good, because the global competition is very tight . China never suffered from "tech" companies being blacked out like Russia (again didn't stop Russian economy from growing )
@Yu-hx5jo11 ай бұрын
@@Yu-hx5jogot to 3:57 and listen to what he says. Chinas industrial base is massive but completely reliant on foreign companies.
@PolfPolf11 ай бұрын
@@PolfPolf That's not a source neither an academically verified fact. If China is soooo reliant on foreign companies and west hates China then ask foreign companies to simply leave China then ? But no China has the skilled labour and the machinery. China already manufactures many things independently. Trades are not unilaterally done, The West especially USA takes HUGE profit out of China.
@Yu-hx5jo11 ай бұрын
This man can reassure me and frighten me in the same sentence
@Silentj04 Жыл бұрын
Don’t be so gullible
@mustangx Жыл бұрын
@@mustangx You know nothing boomer
@bruceleroy61 Жыл бұрын
Then you are a fool cause half of what he’s spewing out is pure propaganda
@sethdemers1530 Жыл бұрын
@@sethdemers1530 Says who? Or is it your gut feeling?
@bruceleroy61 Жыл бұрын
@@sethdemers1530 Why is your profile empty Seth? I probably don't have the language pack to type your real name
@bruceleroy61 Жыл бұрын
This dude sounds like me after reading random wikipedia articles for several hours.
@JT-qw1cn Жыл бұрын
Lmao - love this comment!! Throw adderall into the mix for added effect 😂😂
@RealStonedApe Жыл бұрын
Bingo
@Sergioggg77 Жыл бұрын
And you would be more informed than him. This dudes thinks the US has a bug in Xi's office and they can hear every meeting he has and says no one talks to Xi because they can't hear anything .He's either on some heavy drugs or has a mental problem.
@Kosme88 Жыл бұрын
With some adderal and 9 cups of coffe
@markin_ Жыл бұрын
For years I have wondered why the us hasn't transfered some of its production manufacturing to Mexico, India, or even Vietnam and leave China out of it.
@austinmorse433711 ай бұрын
It is in the process but it will be done gradually. I heard some companies exclusively manufacture products in Vietnam and Bangladesh
@xxxlik88055 ай бұрын
I watched the full 2 hours. He seems to articulate what the US government might if it had a voice to articulate its hopes and dreams for the future. If intelligence agencies actively sponsor and interfere with twitter, facebook etc. we can assume that they also sponsor authors, public speakers and media personalities.
@yiguanas812 Жыл бұрын
This guy is so biased its not even funny...
@Meyohe Жыл бұрын
Great point
@andrewnmontemayor Жыл бұрын
CIA has been known to sponsor many "grass roots" orgs, publishers and authors.
@CeroAshura Жыл бұрын
EXCEPT FOR THE FACT HE DENIES THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS TRYING TO MAKE A DIGITAL CURRENCY WHICH THEY CAN TAKE AWAY OR MAKE U SPEND ANY TIMW THEY LIKE......THEN HE HAS TO GO HMMM SUS.
@aloominaty Жыл бұрын
Team America… fuck yeah
@ike2k4 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating conversation, but I’m sceptical of anyone who is so sure of their own ideas
@abrahamfehr6728 Жыл бұрын
Right. He sounds like a remarkably human robot.
@timchildress2048 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Anyone that confident is usually being honest with you but lying to themselves.
@njp4340 Жыл бұрын
So am I, but if you read his book, he goes remarkably in-depth on his sources and it's legit
@tchaffman Жыл бұрын
Never trust a dude with a ponytail
@clapforboobies5892 Жыл бұрын
@@njp4340 Did you hear that somewhere or did you just make it up? Be honest because that is a great quote lol
@mrbobsevil Жыл бұрын
this guy has made is entire career on what if's
@DancePartyBlammo8 ай бұрын
The ad for this video under the video for me was "American Heating and Air LLC"
@qwertykevin15 ай бұрын
I won't dispute that he knows a lot geopolitically, but he seems like he's crossed into the realm of manufacturing his own narrative and sounding very confident about it. I trust about 40% of what he's saying.
@shaunnyman4140 Жыл бұрын
Explain the manufacturing his own narrative part .
@14dimitri Жыл бұрын
Demographics don't lie. China is screwed.
@normano3573 Жыл бұрын
@@14dimitri Im guessing hes saying that the guest is taking stories or rumours like the Xi story nobody talks to him about anything. Maybe its true maybe its not i doubt americans really know the ins and outs of the Chinese inner circle And id also nitpick say hes kinda presenting his theory of Chinas downfall as absolute fact. He certainly knows more than me and his theory DOES make some logical sense But its a theory. Theres no way that can be presented as 100p as he said. Thats not a scientific statement. That is simply being confident in your theory, not fact. And he could be right. Still not a fact
@Rowsy91 Жыл бұрын
Psychic wins lottery
@glennlewman4186 Жыл бұрын
He also speaks in a way that seems chaotic and manic. He's bouncing around between Biden and technology and China. I really don't trust what this guy is saying.
@Bolensgoldrush Жыл бұрын
I find it funny. In China, people also listen to their analyst on podcasts talking about America have 10 year left.
@chanjoe299 Жыл бұрын
people need clickbait if you say things will go up and down but life will continue - people just get really bored
@therearenoshortcuts9868 Жыл бұрын
Thank You!! The Chinese are not going anywhere... They have been around longer than almost any culture... The only country to give them a run for their money being on the planet longer is India... This is pretty basic here... How long has America been around?? Not very long... Very basic math here... Thanx Chan
@hughriger6177 Жыл бұрын
@@hughriger6177 China has approx 3500 years of genuine history, Egypt, India etc have far longer, to name just two. And past longevity is not a great predictor of future success. Although I do disagree with much of what Zeihan says.
@caketaster404 Жыл бұрын
@caketaster404 bruh, cut the 3500 year bullshit, the Chinese race theory was invented by 梁啟超 in 1900, so it 's not even that old. Before that, they only recognized whoever dynasty is in charge, and all this dynasty didn't really get along with each other very. The purpose of inventing "Chinese" is no different than your "Uncle Sam"~a made up propaganda for patriot to be proud with.
@chanjoe299 Жыл бұрын
America is already gone... have you seen Baltimore, and Philly.. it's like dawn of the damned.
@saoralba4236 Жыл бұрын
I’m a time traveler from 2033, and I can confirm none of this happened
@jimboslice636711 ай бұрын
Almost 5000 years of existence and they're all gone in 10 years? Not sure about this one.
@yobeenocreative69843 ай бұрын
Haha good point
@TheyCallMeGlitchDash3 ай бұрын
It's crazy how confidently someone can voice their opinions as absolute fact.
@jasonlevesque6340 Жыл бұрын
it makes it even funnier when you line up the dozens of other "Geopolitical Analyst"s who have said this numerous times every year since 2000. Just type into KZhead "the collapse of china" and sort from new. Its laughable how china just lives in their heads rent free, every day.
@untitled06 Жыл бұрын
@@rob6354 money.
@thecount1001 Жыл бұрын
yea that's called confidence and good public speaking skills. Do you want him to end every comment with a question mark? Live your life its not that serious
@dutyrover946 Жыл бұрын
china sympathizer
@steveyk.7099 Жыл бұрын
Math is a crazy drug.
@joshgarrison8696 Жыл бұрын
Peter published an article in 2010 saying China would collapse in the next decade. fast forward to now, China is still here. Peter basically keeps predicting every decade until either it happens or he dies of old age still predicting.
@bulldog6545 Жыл бұрын
Haha 😂 true. He’s full of baboon poop
@jaylucas835211 ай бұрын
Agreed it's always the same crap. Sure CN could follow the west but they have much more years in the tank. CN is the new empire and anglosaxons must lie to themselves to ignore these fact. They now try to make that silly military intervention in TW with regime change crap by 2027. What they aren't consider they could have lost their currency before that.
@MichaTheLight11 ай бұрын
Fair, but timing is always hard. Think back to the 2008 financial crisis. Everyone likes to talk about Michael Burry and the others, but there were plenty of people who recognized the problems caused by the actions of the banks and the government's policies years and years before. Identifying structural problems doesn't mean you'll be able to time the exact moment everything falls apart. Again it's fair to criticize him for trying to give a specific timeline; he probably should know better, but I do think you should evaluate his claims of the structural problems independent of his timeline.
@jacob_90s11 ай бұрын
China has existed for thousands of years. USA on the other hand is a newby compared to that.
@melissaseago53611 ай бұрын
Nope. It has collapsed. You as a westerner have no idead whats happening on the inside. The only thing you see is them fleeing by the thousands trying to get into USA. What's happening now is the result of cowardliness of the Chinese people for letting the CCP taking over every espect of their lives and did nothing about it.
@wokeitofflee979711 ай бұрын
“Men can’t have kids on their own” FACTS 😂
@mcthunderstick237410 ай бұрын
Men can’t have kids without a thunderstick
@baldingeagle84047 ай бұрын
Fascinating back and forth
@steelmusic210 ай бұрын
10 years is a really good period of time for “predictions”.. it’s far enough away to avoid being held accountable, and yet soon enough to create a sense of urgency to go out and buy this guys books and get him paid airtime, and all he has to do is sound confident. I give him 10/10 for hustle ability. Probably would be decent at selling used cars as well.
@teamlazer Жыл бұрын
Well said
@junglelane Жыл бұрын
Haha well said. AI production in 10 years will change the game. Also China in 2022 leads in AI papers and parents, and is developing technology. People have been shitting on their innovation for so long they can’t change that mental model. There’s so many software developers in China it’s crazy.
@Danny-qh4su Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@karenthomson9749 Жыл бұрын
Peter Zeihan in 2014, I would say he was 90% right... kzhead.info/sun/gK2dhbepqqxmfKc/bejne.html
@Eric.Gonzalez Жыл бұрын
Yup he will find suckers for his book if he is not paid for this already
@sleepEasy2 Жыл бұрын
Never underestimate how resilient humans are.
@spearruler70 Жыл бұрын
China even survived the whole Mao thing.....well a hell of a lot of them didn't obviously.
@loot6 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. People will do extraordinary things to not die
@jeffyboyreloaded Жыл бұрын
What about the Romans though
@deflategate1297 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffyboyreloaded Tell that to the 50 million that died under Mao's regime..
@loot6 Жыл бұрын
What does that have to do with anything he is saying
@testicool013 Жыл бұрын
The point that CCP banks on Nationalistic mentality of the Chinese people is spot on. Mao did the same thing and to invoke that, he went on an unprovoked war with India in 1970
@sidmaster207 ай бұрын
The way he talks, it seems like China is Brazil lol
@miguelpereira67832 ай бұрын
I listen to Peter with great interest and a heavy dose of skepticism of the coming future.
@andrecampbell691 Жыл бұрын
10 years because of demographics for china but the US has the baby boomer effect. Could be 10 days as China population is in serious condition from covid deaths and infections and now being spread by letting population travel again as 9 of ten is infected with more lethal strains. US population is close to realizing what inoculations are doing as deaths suddenly occur and increasing in a youthful population as life insurance companies show a 40% increase in deaths across demographics. Good luck.
@garysimon7765 Жыл бұрын
What are you skeptical of? His theory? Or maybe the prediction of the immediate future by experts in China? Chinese government? Sorry if it sounds like I'm doubting you, I'm genuinely interested. It's not as easy as it used to be to just Google things, since there aren't any definitive answers anymore.. Everyone claims to be an expert these days, & they all seem to spend more time criticizing their peers instead of providing thoroughly researched proof. It's irritating
@tobymcgroby8967 Жыл бұрын
He predicted the Ukraine incident
@duby9811 Жыл бұрын
I know right. but whats crazy is that what he is saying was said before by think tanks, and ppl that swear that have seen the future. What's crazy is in 10 years it will be 2033. I read a book that said we will begin to see the changes around this time. climate, global strife, food insecurity.
@jprosey Жыл бұрын
WOW VERY DANGEROUS SIR!😠😠 BUT THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA 🤗🇮🇳 THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD , WE NEVER SCAM AND WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗 🇮🇳🤗 🇮🇳🤗
@indiasuperclean6969 Жыл бұрын
"Aside from the United States not going anywhere, I would say we expect the economic collapse of China in this coming decade." Peter Zeihan at Stratfor, January of 2010
@thanosandnobill3789 Жыл бұрын
Zeihan 2022 "Russia wants to invade half of Eastern Europe to fortify it's borders , analysis made like we ar in the 1500s and the risk of cavalry hordes is a reality.
@joeroganpodfantasy42 Жыл бұрын
@@joeroganpodfantasy42 Russia invades Ukraine and fights an artillery led ground war like its WWI.
@jdruze7 Жыл бұрын
@@jdruze7 Russia will have chewed out Ukraine by the end of year and continue to test the NATO in the Baltics. As far as I know the borders have not moved much for 1 year straight.
@joeroganpodfantasy42 Жыл бұрын
He was off by like 2 years. China's real estate market just fell through the floor and that's literally like 25-30% of local government resources. They're in a really bad way. Plus factories are moving out because they aren't the cheapest place to manufacture anymore. Someone would have to make the case for why china's going to thrive not why china's going to collapse
@oakinwol Жыл бұрын
@@oakinwol agreed. Peter Z makes predictions which are extrapolated from hard data points. I, for one, concur that we've already seen "peak China".
@ivanjulian2532 Жыл бұрын
It’s almost like he just crunched the numbers based on how things are going at this moment assuming they won’t make any attempt to correct the issue, not to mention that they would almost inevitably get bailed out if that didn’t work considering how much we depend on them to manufacture
@tylercarrell5 ай бұрын
No way this guy doesnt work for one of the alphabet agencies...cia is my guess
@lilly575811 ай бұрын
Don't forget, geopolitical analysts are as common and accurate (meaning hardly accurate at all) as economists have been. You can always find one that gives you a narrative that scares you, one that reassures you, and so on. The world is FAR too complex with too many moving issues that no one can predict the future.
@CCornish1978 Жыл бұрын
trying to outwit life.....
@anthonymichaeldurkin6244 Жыл бұрын
To a certain extent, but demographics are destiny. If the average child born has no brothers, no sisters, no aunts or uncles, no cousins etc. If the birth rate is so low, it's a death spiral. There's no getting around that.
@anthonyreed480 Жыл бұрын
@@anthonyreed480 yup
@godwintalking4724 Жыл бұрын
The problem with both is arguing with certitude on uncertain things. We know for a fact where oil and other fundamental resources are, where they're not, and where they could be. We know for a fact the direction of global demographics. We know how long it takes to construct certain kinds of infrastructure. I trust his comments on demographics. I trust his comments on resources. Where he argues from certain things, you can be sure he's right. More speculative things like the ability to make quality chips for computers, idk, all it takes is one genius engineer with some patriotism and a lot of money (the CCP uses the money printer far more abusively on any given Tuesday than J Powell did during the deepest throws of COVID). Like if they took Elon's DNA off a hair on his comb last time he visited and created a clone in a vat somewhere in Wuhan, this clone would be able to build a chip factory out of clay. I never bet against innovation, especially when there's easy monetary policy.
@nonotmelol Жыл бұрын
I identify as seeing the future tho 👁️👄👁️
@Thejokestir8 Жыл бұрын
You know the situation is bad when Joe runs out of questions and just takes a deep breath.
@RodriguezProductionz Жыл бұрын
It's the fresh BS aroma.
@parapoliticos52 Жыл бұрын
Literally was reading this and Joe took a big exhale right at the end of your comment. 😄
@michaelmartin96 Жыл бұрын
It stresses me out when Joe takes a deep breath
@kennymichaelalanya7134 Жыл бұрын
It's because 95% of his audiences believe China is taken over the United States. Joe's thinking about how he going to explain this to his audience 🤣
@bluemoney20 Жыл бұрын
@@kennymichaelalanya7134 don’t be stressed sometimes joe forgets he can breathe
@omensoffate Жыл бұрын
That GDP growth says that they are expanding vastly compared to the west
@christiand.740410 ай бұрын
He forgot to mention that it was an Indian vaccine which was most affective at the period of covid. And US volunteered India to distribute it globally.
@sumedh00bt896 ай бұрын
I love listening to Peter Ziehan, he is very entertaining but don’t get to mesmerized by his rap. His job is to sound like he knows everything wether he does or not.
@geenadaniels5560 Жыл бұрын
He said 6 months ago russia would use nukes and invade moldova - he just says whatever the state department/deep state want circulating in the news at the time - then they give him expensive contracts to speak at their events and conferences for DoD and etc... this dude is 100% shill.
@FamiliarAnomaly Жыл бұрын
He’s a great example of “confidently incorrect”, globalization is so incredibly complex that anyone who has the knowledge would accept that they can’t predict the future like this man is claiming to
@alexmurphy5289 Жыл бұрын
He's probably a paid by the government schill
@carynmartin6053 Жыл бұрын
like the former CIA guest that talks a whole 2 hours of nothing
@samuellp1146 Жыл бұрын
he says what people like to hear : America's future is great, all the other countries will collapse and you'll dominate them because you are supperiors...
@PiouStarcraft Жыл бұрын
I'm still so fascinated by how Joe can talk to anyone about anything for hours without even being boring or weird
@saahastiwari3779 Жыл бұрын
He prepares for each guest. They’re planned ahead dude.
@LudiCrust. Жыл бұрын
@@LudiCrust. That's still fascinating planning and keeping a guest engaged throughout the convo
@saahastiwari3779 Жыл бұрын
Simple public speaking skills
@ansonien117 Жыл бұрын
@@ansonien117 maybe for you mate but for an introverted nerd like me that's a God tier skill
@saahastiwari3779 Жыл бұрын
@@ansonien117 😂 🤡
@tennislegendsonlineretrotennis Жыл бұрын
Double or nothing but I’ll hold the money for us to keep it safe
@SlippinJimmy4Life10 ай бұрын
This dude is so absolutely full of it, I cannot wait for this to age
@user-lp2jw8xk6i10 ай бұрын
This guy is so well spoken and articulate that if he told me I'm unicorn with diabetes I'd believe him
@phelipeheringer6058 Жыл бұрын
🤡🤡🤡
@ivand0007 Жыл бұрын
And that is in part, a large part, of why his message, though flawed and full of misrepresentation and errored facts, is so dangerous
@belliot758 Жыл бұрын
The truth is easy to sell
@Based_Is_Best Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@wyzeyzere Жыл бұрын
I thought he was talking about America
@MikeCastelonia Жыл бұрын
3 qualities I admire about Joe's podcasts. 1) He allows his guest to share their knowledge. 2) He asks questions we would like to. 3) He is honest about not knowing which allows his guest to explain better so the rest of us sitting back saying Huh? stand a chance to understand. 🐝Thanks Joe and enjoy your🍯honey🙃
@padebro2683 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree there's not many podcasts I can listen to before calling bullshit but Joe Rogan is right on the money with what you said 👍
@chrismatthews6517 Жыл бұрын
yeah that's what keep joe rogan real. unlike many podcast who just agree with the information
@wildan2136 Жыл бұрын
It’s Mad Honey 😂
@miztaken_5477 Жыл бұрын
Very well put, I enjoyed this guest. Invested from jump!!!😳
@hottoddy1071 Жыл бұрын
Allows the guest to talk and lets us decide what to think
@lovewinseveryday Жыл бұрын
Gordon Chang went over this. They had a meeting about whether they could handle sanctions and no one said yes
@pobsarducttapeproducts876311 ай бұрын
An adjustment isnt a super catastrophic or even catastrophic collapse. And later things will get better still further adjusting.
@aniswehbe4458 ай бұрын
Canada, USA, Mexico are neighbors, Mexico has cheap and skill labor, Canada outstanding resources, US has the finance and technology, all three have good transportation and trade infrastructure connecting the three, the three have meshed in culture in the last decades. Let’s just work together, fix problems at home, and unite to make North America strong and prosperous! 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇲🇽
@carlosargueta2751 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, this isnt a bad idea. Unfortunately Republicans in America rather build walls than bridges
@justinmelendez3760 Жыл бұрын
Having a giant impassible ocean on both sides and an impassible choke point in the Darien Gap provides defensive advantages Eurasia could only dream of.
@trentmcnatt6497 Жыл бұрын
@@justinmelendez3760 The Republican immigration issue isn't the problem, it's their new views on trade being more nationalistic without realizing they don't have the capabilities to become an economic manufacturing powerhouse again. Those jobs will leave China for Mexico, even China is investing in Mexico more and more. Why? Because just like America, Chinese businessmen are very interested in obtaining cheap labor and have duty free access to the US. Mexico has I believe the most free trade deals in the world. The inflation reduction act also helps Mexico and China manufacturing of EV's with tax credits (subsidies). I'm not a fan of Biden but economically he is helping set the blueprint to combat China's capabilities.
@rh81454 Жыл бұрын
Carlitos you’re getting your hands dirty papi?
@pedrosp1985 Жыл бұрын
Gotta declare the cartels to be terrorists and go to war with Mexico first....once we get them in line, THEN we can talk about "teaming up".
@johnnylove2073 Жыл бұрын
If I had a dollar every time a “China expert” predicted that country’s imminent collapse…
@kkroeger5868 Жыл бұрын
I think you mean a “Yen”
@robione8365 Жыл бұрын
Right! Usually mericans too. Merica will fall before China ever does
@Mac10. Жыл бұрын
You want Yuan.
@argha-qi5hf Жыл бұрын
@@argha-qi5hf Yaun ? You mean the guy that mows my lawn?
@robione8365 Жыл бұрын
Youd have maybe $10?
@sethgoodwin4244 Жыл бұрын
this guy is spot on about China.
@leahm25327 ай бұрын
Can you further explain mam? I am interested in this topic.. and are you Chinese?
@saiaravindkondapaturi56596 ай бұрын
According to Wikipedia, "A near-universal one-child limit was imposed in 1980 and written into the country's constitution in 1982." While Mao died in 1976. I wonder how one child policy was Mao's idea 4 years after his death as this so-called analyst had claimed @1:53.
@zambazzee15026 ай бұрын
@2:43 Shaking your head while talking is your subconscious denying the lie your mouth is telling. Try again!
@zambazzee15026 ай бұрын
The one child policy was introduced by Dang because people were literally starving to death on the streets the gdp per capita was equivalent to India until 1991. The idea at the time was that both parents would pass wealth down to children so they wouldn’t be malnourished and uneducated. But now it in reverse where 1 child have support 2 parents. It like short term gain long term pain.
@brianyang50756 ай бұрын
And the BSer of the year award goes too🏆
@robbholmes921511 ай бұрын
In my 40 years on this planet every time somebody says something like this they’re always wrong.
@miketrav Жыл бұрын
In my 37 years on the planet every time a 40 year old says something like this they're always wrong.
@Mike-fx4nu Жыл бұрын
There’s a first time for everything
@northwestcoast Жыл бұрын
Not when it comes to Japan. And the Chinese economy is Japan 2.0
@JohnSmith-vn8dm Жыл бұрын
40 years ago they didnt have AI or mass collected data. Also, you're forgetting the fact that not everything always repeats itself, meaning, he could actually be right
@user-kb1hw2yq2f Жыл бұрын
Living in exciting times.
@jakeroper1096 Жыл бұрын
Joe: when you say “going away” you don’t mean- Peter: *they’ll die, Joe*
@MCSizzle1116 Жыл бұрын
It's just a long sleep. Nap nap time.
@michaelbread5906 Жыл бұрын
malthusian
@seabreeze4559 Жыл бұрын
I wish I could listen to this guy’s voice all day and night is it just me or is his voice settling?
@ronaldrodriguez30511 ай бұрын
I would love to see his thoughts on the falling birth rates in the us
@arthurbrickner9800Ай бұрын
His confidence on these conclusions is absurd, hard to take him seriously
@TraderChriis Жыл бұрын
@@upwardspiral7441 China will die lol specific enough?
@ChrisLutz3 Жыл бұрын
@@upwardspiral7441 sir, this is not Spotify this is a 14 min clip
@enriccoc7794 Жыл бұрын
He's an american geopolitical expert. It's his job to talk BS and lie about other countries to make them look bad in order to make USA look better in comparison. This guy lies the moment he opens his mouth.
@derbigpr500 Жыл бұрын
@@upwardspiral7441 ??? It's literally a 14 minute video of ONE topic, wdym "be specific"? He was way too overconfident for the whole duration of the clip, probably the whole podcast too.
@De_Jere Жыл бұрын
He literally works for the state department and his views match the MIC on EVERY issue.
@PurpleHazeVanNederlands Жыл бұрын
In the late 80's Japan was predicted to surpass the US as the world's largest economy. Things don't always necessarily continue to follow their current projections
@NotKimiRaikkonen Жыл бұрын
was it predicted by him? if not, what does this have to do with the video above
@litdav Жыл бұрын
WOW VERY DANGEROUS SIR!😠😠BUT THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA 🤗🇮🇳 THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD , WE NEVER SCAM AND WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗
@indiasuperclean6969 Жыл бұрын
@@litdavThats not the point of OPs comment. He is saying Chinas economy has been growing and growing lately and people have been saying they will overtake the US. His point being that people said the same thing about Japan but it never happened.
@dano1307 Жыл бұрын
There's no connection between China and Japan.
@paranoidhumanoid Жыл бұрын
@p o p Japan will have their own military in 5 years because it can no longer rely on USA. But we are supposed to
@sharonnuffer3558 Жыл бұрын
8 years left boys!
@FreddybearOSRSАй бұрын
Talking about Chinese health they also drink. A LOT. I've never seen a drinking culture like China.
@taylorfredrickson77507 ай бұрын
This man is so self-assured, it makes me not believe him. But at the same time, I also think one cannot afford to dismiss him.
@cordellsenior9935 Жыл бұрын
Read or listen to his book, The End of the World is Just the Beginning...He and his team have been researching this stuff for well over a decade and they are thorough AF.
@damiannordmann-invinciblee6049 Жыл бұрын
@@damiannordmann-invinciblee6049 He is conman, and full of shit put next to real analyst, he would get mopped. His youtube videos are total clickbait.
@swk327 Жыл бұрын
Well worded, 10 minutes into the episode and turned it off. 10 seconds later i found myself covered in guilt and had to turn that on again. Great podcast, one of the most interesting and scary ones.
@BilboBagginsStory Жыл бұрын
@@damiannordmann-invinciblee6049 He seems to have lost sight of the fact that wealth comes from using fossil fuel and not from population
@xtc2v Жыл бұрын
I've been watching his videos for a while and I think he's full of shit. He doesn't bring much evidence and his favorite line is "we now know" how do we know this?
@tomasonderco7324 Жыл бұрын
This is one of those guys you can learn a lot from but also not trust his full stop truth
@Adontheimperfectionist Жыл бұрын
Full stop truth. I love that phrase.
@tomlopez7819 Жыл бұрын
no you can't learn a lot from him, at least not anything that is true or within context. Listen to what he's claiming, the write down anything he's claiming as a fact (ignore his conclusions for now and just concentrate on his started facts) and then see if he's either telling a straight up lie (China's trade situation) or taking it totally out of context (diabetes rate, actually lottery than the USA, and doctors, which is comparable to the USA and Canada, while all 3 are gay behind most of the developed world, or even Cuba.)
@RetiredInThailand Жыл бұрын
I got that exact same impression. At around 5 minutes, Joe tries asking how China will combat it and he flatly says they'll die all the same. I got that, "Well he's clearly a very educated man," reaction combined with, 'okay, maybe he's too sure of himself.' lol
@Polydueces Жыл бұрын
you have to watch his presentation that he does for companies and whoever. i suggest watching on youtube "peter zeihan keynote speaker 2019"
@vanillasnowx Жыл бұрын
@@RetiredInThailand Did you just say American is behind Cuba in doctors or healthcare?
@clamum9648 Жыл бұрын
Just an FYI, This guy works the MIC. Literally.
@robm143810 ай бұрын
It's important to remember that Chinese civilization has been a succession of powerful societies for thousands of years. They're not "going away" anytime soon.
@chrisimus162511 ай бұрын
he is most likely referring to the current absolutist regime, it is failing economically spectacularly, but yes the Chinese people are not going anywhere anytime soon
@SergioAArjon11 ай бұрын
Those times are extremely different from today.
@Johnprize287 ай бұрын
Please have him back after 10 years
@devaa5285 Жыл бұрын
Why is KZhead blocking the replies here... It says "Two replies" and yet when I click it, nothing comes up...
@JJWalters Жыл бұрын
Yeah please bring him back in 10 years. because It would prove what a liar this guy is .
@ilovetruth8885 Жыл бұрын
I have worked many years in Mexico usa and China. When I first went to China I was thinking time to learn how real engineers do shit. I couldn't believe how incompetent their engineers were. It gave me the confidence to start my own business. I can vouch for the fact Mexico is twice as skilled. I based my business there.
@charlesg5085 Жыл бұрын
Look up "rotten tail" construction and you will see why. It boils down to extreme corruption for why Chinese engineering (and production in general) is so awful
@MurakamiTenshi Жыл бұрын
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@indiasuperclean6969 Жыл бұрын
I hear the water is real clean in India
@TBDmedia Жыл бұрын
@@TBDmedia so clean you can see right thru the bullsh*t
@sibaroochi Жыл бұрын
@@TBDmedia 😆😆😆
@pt_atx Жыл бұрын
What I want to know is if there’s a possibility for a civil war to start?
@zyswanson78655 ай бұрын
He said this 13 years ago too.
@mitchellbaker480611 ай бұрын
dudes confidence was amazing. Can wait to see him after 2030 proclaiming again the same stuff for selling his books.
@chrisd997 Жыл бұрын
reminds me on cashing in on all the bets about WWIII starting throughout the last decade...
@karimshebeika8010 Жыл бұрын
As though the people would be dumb enough to fall for that. “Goes back and references Al Gores movie” 🤣
@bookerman16 Жыл бұрын
Do you think he's right on 50% of it or more or less?
@Zack-jc9yb Жыл бұрын
Imagine if this all ages well, though. How cool would it be to lean back hands behind your head with big dic energy like, "I FUKN TRIED TO WARN YOU FOOLS"
@marksutherlandjr.2121 Жыл бұрын
@@Zack-jc9yb dude he predicted that Russia would begin invading neighbors way back in 2018. SO yea he's definitely right on some things AND @karimshebeika8010 guess what, if we do end up in a world war from escalation in Ukraine he will have been absolutely right in his prediction of WW3
@devinmichaelroberts9954 Жыл бұрын
The way he goes on and on with a very high level of certainty on an amazingly complex topic is astonishing. There are way too many moving parts for someone to be this confident
@jasonosai Жыл бұрын
Not to mention China is a strict state run country. There's no way outsiders have this much accurate information on them. He has a point and is probably right on some things. But we can't assume this guy is that closely connected to the internal operations of China.
@jacobcannon8441 Жыл бұрын
He’s been fairly accurate in his predictions, in his 2014 book he correctly anticipated Russia would have 8 years left to invade Ukraine - and then it happened 8 years later.
@focke-wulffw-1902 Жыл бұрын
Yeah @19:00 he thinks the head of the Russian Orthodox Church is "the pope of the Eastern Orthodox Church"...thats almost like saying the head of England's Anglican Church is the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church
@chrisaustin4115 Жыл бұрын
@@focke-wulffw-1902 I'm not familiar with the book, but if that's true, that would explain his confidence a little
@jasonosai Жыл бұрын
@@focke-wulffw-1902 I feel like it isn't that bold of a prediction to make that Russia would invade Ukraine. They also invaded Crimea at around the same time he made that prediction.
@seanbell69 Жыл бұрын
68 yrs old and trying to wrap my head around this discussion …. 🤔🧐
@susansmith605811 ай бұрын
The missing variable factor in all of this is how much effort a group of humans puts in to fix a problem. If the only variables you consider are the problems then everything adds up to an imminent disaster.
@andreapapapostolou1029 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Humans are quite ingenious at fixing problems.
@wendyspear Жыл бұрын
@@wendyspearTrue, but they are quite talented at causing them too... its a doubled edged blade.
@Gia010611 Жыл бұрын
Fix what exactly? And Well also the problem being is these aren’t decisions we get to make this is decisions of people of power so is it really us? I feel like we say this every time someone comes out and says something different.
@tanz5275 Жыл бұрын
As long as the ccp is in charge China will always have an over population problem.
@levelazn Жыл бұрын
Will Covid “help” their demographic “problem”?
@DaniTofte Жыл бұрын
Sincere Love & Respect to you Joe Rogan for maintaining such an amazing show of Endless SOLID CONTENT ❤️
@jkingsr53677 ай бұрын
Mind blowing. Here we Americans are told China is the next superpower. Media portrays China so differently. I learned so much!!
@pattic45137 ай бұрын
Usa hates china . Diverting the fact that china already is a power .
@jacksmith-mu3ee7 ай бұрын
I think the the most shocking part of this Interview is when Peter told Joe “ well, let’s not oversell it …..” 😂😂
@ejfeldmann Жыл бұрын
It made me think of the conversations in " Burn After Reading " between the CIA superior and his subordinate. Just running sh*t while being just a few steps away from being clueless.
@karlmoody4891 Жыл бұрын
Nor no serious investigation of Blackrock CEO Larry Fink regarding their $20 trillion scheme in ESG earnings. Why is Blackrock allowed to be part of the Joe Biden administration?
@AwesomeBlackDude Жыл бұрын
so youve got cahoneys?
@williamgill5286 Жыл бұрын
@@karlmoody4891 so let's not do that again. Although I have no idea what we did in the first place. or however that line went. lol so good. love that movie.
@GungaLaGunga Жыл бұрын
Zeihan was peddling the China collapse since 2010...back then he said it will happen by 2019.
@B.Precision Жыл бұрын
As a Military Intelligence Officer I've been following his writing for over a decade. Mostly because of his outlandish opinions are always wonderful material when estimating worst case scenarios. He sure gets a huge amount of media attention for a analyst whose speculation is accurate 5-7% of the time.
@Papi1960R Жыл бұрын
I am not trying to be a smart aleck but I do would like to you to mention what fact did he say or opinion did he say about China that was completely wrong. I have studied this for a long time because I was in the military as well and this is my area of expertise and I don't see where he is wrong on many fronts except for the fact that you can say the same thing about a lot of stuff that's going on in the United States right now too. My apologies because I am using talk to text and it doesn't always come out exactly right. I have trouble typing and this is the only way I can communicate.
@samsnead7 Жыл бұрын
What does a military intelligence officer do?
@ej4458 Жыл бұрын
"Military Intelligence" is an oxymoron. It doesnt exist in the chain of command. Btw.. most of what he said in this particular instance is correct.
@anonanon8794 Жыл бұрын
speculation just tends to sell better than substantive facts.
@JewTube001 Жыл бұрын
@@samsnead7 His very first "fact" is false, Chairman Mao supported population growth, he had a famous line "人多好办事“,"With more people, things become easier", in respond to suggestions of population control. Under his rule, from 1949 to 1976, Chinese population grew from 400 to 800, millions. He passed away in 1976-9-9, China adopted one child policy in 1982.
@vocvoc9895 Жыл бұрын
Ive watched Zeihan's predictions on the Ukraine war come true one by one, so all I can say to those who are skeptical of his predictions is watch a few more of his videos covering a world-wide context
@harryurz9 ай бұрын
such as? the predictions coming true
@Blade8Nr8 ай бұрын
This dude lives in an alternate reality me thinks
@chris1.211 ай бұрын
The way he delivers his points is like its already happened haha
@MrPastysmasha Жыл бұрын
🙄😄😄😂
@user-fo9hs9ep8g Жыл бұрын
Peter Zeihan has a very well rehearsed presentation that he has been delivering in generally the same format for well over a decade. His presentations are all over KZhead if you go looking for them. He generally says the same thing in most of them with only minor differences based on updated data. He's been doing this same basic presentation for a long time which is why he sounds so confident.
@randyjones3050 Жыл бұрын
@@randyjones3050 Oh yes. You can find videos that where shot in 2013s. Quality is subpar but he's been at it for a while. His dates are more than a bit off but questioning the inevitability is hard, I found his videos in early 2016s. I say this as a skeptic of projections that predict the collapse of entire nation states, given the available data just from the clear net China's overdependance on the world is glaringly clear. He has sone great insights. Read his work after Marshall's, so not a bad follow up.
@alexanderphilip1809 Жыл бұрын
Just say it with conviction and it must be true, ahaha. What a blowhard.
@MagnusNemo-xc5nx Жыл бұрын
it's to make himself sound credible and act like he knows what he's talking about....in this clip he calls something undoubtedly after saying he has no data or info on it hahahaha
@theicecreamjones Жыл бұрын
I love how Joe is not pretentious and is genuinely interested in all those topics, that's why he is a great listener
@matthouston124 Жыл бұрын
He has said he only invites on people who interest him.
@lulumoon6942 Жыл бұрын
@@lulumoon6942 Yeah I was confused why this guy even mentioned it, like of course he is going to be interested, he invited the person on. He's not going to invite some one and be like you're boring why are you here.
@taahasiddiqui1071 Жыл бұрын
@@taahasiddiqui1071 I raise you Neil deGrasse Tyson
The only thing I know for certain is that Joe should have this guy back on in a decade and play back this entire interview and see how it compares to what actually happened with China.
his grift is done by that point no longer doing interviews LOL
@@TheVoiceofTheProphetElizer 💯🤣so true
He should have a lot of guests back, that have their theories, and see if any of them were right.
this guy never been to china, doesn't speak chinese, and has never talked to a actual chinese peer who lives in china to verify his "research". This guy is a typical western hack who pretends to understand china
@@therearenoshortcuts9868 glad it just isn't me that thinks this guy has major flaws in his thinking here.
Joe should have him on again in 10 years and see how this plays out.
Joe dies in April of 2028 unfortunately.
He’ll be laughing all the way to the bank in 10 years
He'll say "Give it another 10 years or so'.
I'm a Chinese, I know China is dying under Emperor Xi. He has been blinded by his enablers and CCP has made all the wrong moves ever since Hu Jintao's era. China will be half dead in 3 years time.
His 2014 book predicted until 2022 when the boomer mass retirement hits. And his 2022 book predicts the next 8 years. He hasn’t been wrong except how strong Russia was (which the whole world was wrong about)
I'm sure this guy know alot and has some good points, but expresses everything with 100% certainty. I've never met a competent person that does that
He is a charlatan. I can spot one from miles. I'm italian.
That’s what happens when someone is in so much love with their own idea, they lose touch with reality 😅
He provides no evidence for any of his claims.
@@DannyWeil He predicted Ukraine and Brexit back in his 2016 book, right to the year it happened.
yup the more i learn, the less i know.. anyone that is certain of ANYTHING is immediately a red flag to me
Analyst, one of the only jobs that doesn't get you in trouble when you're wrong.
Exactly. He saying things without support or facts
And meteorologists
I agree. He said a couple of things I just happen to know are not correct, so it puts what he is saying in doubt in my mind. China has its serious social and economic issues for sure, but Europe is a total mess, and the US has a corrupt administration that will not allow anything but the approved narrative to be given as intel to the president. A former CIA agent, Larry Johnson, stated in an interview that for a while now, anyone who gives an honest report that does not fit the wanted narrative will just be removed or never get advanced, so everyone tells the administration what it wants to hear.
First 4 letters is trouble enough. Hey oooo, zinnnng.
And this guy just makes assumptions. He has no evidence for any of his claims be it China or the US. This guy is a capitalist. and he is on the wrong side of history. Saying Xi murders people and not coming up with any evidence is absurd. What a waste. Good reason to stay away from America.
He's either the greatest bullshitter to ever live, or is truly confident in his information
Yeah, one or the other at an extreme level.
He's the greatest bullshitter to ever live
Yeah I take everything I hear on JRE with a massive grain of salt.
Bullshitter
He was right about Ukraine to the week. Predicted something like 4 or 5 years ago.
I just hope I survive another 10 years to come back to this video
Dude SERIOUSLY this dude is rocking a man bun spouting the future. How tf can anyone believe this shit his predictions are based on sooooo many specific smaller predictions like you’d need a year to actually lay out his timeline of shit that’s “supposed” to happen
How bad could it get? I mean, global recession, 30th variant of Covid, War in Ukraine, possible invasion of Taiwan, interest rates/inflation, massive global debt, climate change, artificial intelligence, civil war, the plague, vaxxed up kids, 3D printed guns and fentanyl in your McDonald's. I think we're looking pretty, pretty good. Of course I'm an optimist though.
That'd mean you'd make it to the premier of his new book - "China only has 10 more years left, this time for real, trust me bro"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you're not the online 👍🏻🤣🤣🤣
Remind me 10 years
Joes ability to ask the right questions at the right time is unmatched.
Active listener
I wish Joe had asked what the guy meant by "remake the human condition" and "overhaul what being human means"
Respectfully disagree. Heavily dependant on the guest imo.
Lex is amazing at questions too
Its not that hard , especially when the other person be talking gibberish
As someone who will most definitely end up depending on social security and my own savings to survive, the statements he made about not having enough workers to pay into the social security system is very frightening. I do not want to end up depending on my children to take care of me and support me. I worked from the age of 14 up until 4 years ago where I was in a terrible accident and I am no longer able to work. It eats me up inside because I don't like the fact that my fellow Americans now provide for me and I wanted more for myself and my family. Im not the smartest man either and I don't understand geopolitics and economic structures, but I understand that our future isn't going to be as bright as we all thought it would be. Corrupt Politicians filling their own pockets, Social Media destroying our youth and mainstreaming dancing moms and Onlyfans as the way to be, and on and on. I still have hope...but only a small amount.
You might be down but your not out. If you have a computer then you have an infinite way to make money. People all over the world work from behind a desk. You can do it from home. And if you can't then learn.
@@Dead_Empireabsolutely. And the gig economy. I haven’t had an official job with an official boss in a year, yet I’m paying to go to school, renting my own house, and still living comfortably doing work I actually wnjoy
You boomers should have passed down more of your wealth to your next generation. boomers caused this.
oh, theyve known the social security system is fucked....anyone under 50 isnt gonna get shit back
better buy bitcoin, dude...
He's right about the bad signs. But these systems are so complex it is not easy to project two years out, let alone ten.
Zeihan said 6 months ago that Russia would be in Poland and Moldova by now. He's a state department/CIA shill which seem to all get spots on JRE btw...
Regardless though I think his overall prognosis is correct, even if the time scaling is off.
I love his information, he is extremely well read. However his predictions don't seem to take human reaction into account.
Well, the story sells something he's trying to sell in the long run. I.e work, book, website/social media. Just say something extreme and watch the money pile
@@laststand6420 agreed. To give him credit, though, I think that the human element of these situations is often over stressed. People are more reactive than proactive.
It's wild how bad people are at predictions a decade away. I remember when geopolitical experts were saying China is going to become a liberal democracy when we started trading with them and they couldn't have been more wrong
I mean, China still could be a liberal Democracy. China has a lot of incentive to become one. It just depends on how long the Communist are planning to put their control and power over the well being of their people.
There's more freedom in China than in the US.
So now maybe theft should understand the skepticism towards global warming. Fifty years of predictions and none have been correct...
I mean its not really wild though . A lot changes in 10 years😂
@truthabovethetruth2167 why not just link to the fucking forum?
as a Chinese who on the half way of "running' away from there . the situation is more serious than he described
How bad is it ?
extremely bad . unemployment rate , property bubble, banks no income due to huge debts default, everyone wants to be an officer instead of individual entrepreneurs @user-vl6zk6dp3g
Just stay where you are
why? @@stuartkerr5872
fake chinese
It's usually people here in China has a more pessimistic(and arguably more realistic) view of ourselves than those outside voices which constantly boasting China taking the world by storm the next decade. So it's refreshing to hear someone sounded even more pessimistic than us. The truth is always in the middle, we're not gonna disappear in the next 10 years or rule the world by then.
People in China have KZhead? I read in credible newspapers that you guys can't have Facebook or KZhead or anything not controlled by the CCP how are you on KZhead? Are you really in China?
China is still growing though.
@@tommyscott9085 no it's not, one Chinese official said that figures like GDP are made up and got fired soon after that, Premier Li.
@@tommyscott9085ccording to their own data and it has been proven is manipulated to the extreme.
Thank you for your candor. Our leaders aren't so great either. They want to divide and conquer us.
This guy is good at talking, but I'm always skeptical of people talking with certainty about incredibly complex topics.
He does talk doesn’t he lol?
He thinks he's got it all figured out.
@@jessefay4984 That is usually a good sign someone missed something critical.
@@jessefay4984 not hard if you actually do research and see the current state of china
he's a state department/cia shill
He’s probably the most humble guy he knows.
🤣🤣🤣
Never saw a mirror he didn’t like
Seriously he starts answering questions immediately and says answers with condescending tones peppered through out. Can’t wait fir his career to be over when his theories prove wrong
@@Vaser1013 it will prove wrong . Peter Zeihan is another typical stupid arrogant racist white folks that just love to talk craps 💩 about China with Nasty anti China rhetoric HAHAHAHA LOL 😂😂😂😂👍👍👍🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺!!!
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Peter Zaihan has been saying this for years now. Predicting China's failure sells his books.
Yet, it's the polar opposite of him saying anything... 🤣🤣 Zaihan is a joke, is a clown. He ain't know anything about Geopolitics, he's just a cock-enlargement snake oil salesman tbh.
The man visualises a possible path the future might take and runs hard with it. Obviously, this is one possibility. One out of many. But I like the way he dives into it and runs through it.
Is it just me or does anyone else not trust a damn thing anyone says about anything anymore…?
Peter has been right about way too many things
@Chain NVSTR well that’s a you problem.
Everyone has an agenda these days and that makes it difficult to separate the truth from the lies.
I think that was the overall objective of all this crazy shit going on these last few years.
no, I just do not trust what he is saying
If the last 3 years taught me anything, it's that these "expert analysts" do a heck of a lot guessing..
Yes and also with extreme confidence that they are telling facts and not just guessing.
That's not an argument.
u just follow hype anti china in last 3 year but u know nothing LOL ,all china problem today is really nothing compared to their problem 20-30 year ago when they still poor ,like protest in tianamen ,falun gong protest ,terorist attack xinjiang,tibet protest, thats even worst and more chaotic just search all video but china success through it and solve all their problem ,so what make u think today china will collapse soon ? use ur brain a bit 🤣🤣🤣🤣 here western propaganda failed prediction about china since 30 year ago 1990 The Economist : china's economy has come to a halt 1996 The Economist : China's economy will face a hard landing 1998 The Economist : China's economy entering a dangerous period of sluggish growth 1999 Bank of Canan : likelihood of a hard landing for the chinese economy 2000 Chicago Tribune China currency move nails hard landing risk coffin 2001 Wilbanks,Smith & Thomas : A hard landing in China 2001 gordon chang and his comedy book "The Coming Collapse of China" 2002 Westchester University : China anxiously seeks a soft economic landing 2003 New York Times : Banking crisis imperils China 2004 The Economist : The grea fall of China? 2005 Nouriel Roubini : The Risk of a Hard Landing in China 2006 International Economy : Can China Achieve a Soft Landing? 2007 TIME : Is China's Economy Overheating? Can China avoid a Hard landing? 2008 Forbes : Hard Landing in china? 2009 Fortune : China's Hard landing China must find a way to recover 2010 Nouriel Roubini : Hard landing coming in China 2011 Business Insider : A Chinese Hard landing May be clcoser than you think 2012 American Interest : Dismal economic news from china : a hard landing 2013 Zero Hedge : A Hard landing in China 2014 CNBC : A hard landing in China 2015 Forbes : Congratulations ,you got yourself a chinese hard landing 2016 The Economist : Hard landing looms for China 2017 National Interest : Is China's Economy going to crash ? source : quora/Godfree-roberts
@@anypercentdeathless True. It's an observation.
ok
Can’t believe people still take this guy seriously
Well the establishment produce these types 😂
@@vanfja he’s literally the most pro establishment guy ever
This is a super important video to watch....you will hear NONE of this from the US media.
That's bc this guy is full of it
@@TheRichLA You seem confused... "China’s Population Falls, Heralding a Demographic Crisis...Deaths outnumbered births last year for the FIRST time in Six Decades. Experts see MAJOR implications for China, its Economy, and the World." - From the New York Times 1/2023 - To the 16K people who disliked this video...time to wake up.
It's always weird to me when someone's super confident about the future
That is because you are not a student of history.
He's not wrong and other people are sounding the alarm about this.
“Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future.” ― Niels Bohr
@@raveporn LOL, you can only learn from history, not predict the future, as good as that may sound in movies and books.
Remember what happened when Hitler took the guns
Joe stressing like he's the one who gotta fix all 😂
😂😂😂
He kinda is
Leave him alone 😢the guy is just trying to fit everything into his head. He interviews a crazy variety of people a few times a week
Joe's looking tired!
Crying lol
How can a geopolitical analyst say an entire country will just 'go away'? The situation he is describing in China is the same exact situation in every developed country.
He speaks in a way that makes it sound a bit dramatic, but I don't think that's quite what he is saying. The economical/agricultural collapse would look similiar to the way Cuba or possibly venezuela looks at the moment. I checked most of his claims and they seem to check out. It's a bit unsettling.
Exactly. I couldn’t even make out what he meant by done. Seems like he’s specifically referring to their economy having a downturn. It will still be viable as long as people work. There’s just a ton of hyperbole in here that is off putting.
He’s conveying that the CCP will dissolve there will be a massive economic and agricultural collapse causing the deaths of millions possibly.
I know people living in China, and it's easy to give a overall view of a country from the outside. But if you saw Germany in 1925 you would never think they'd be the powerhouse they were in 1937. This guy is a western hopeful. But it's not easy to predict the future Trust me when I say his Chinese counterpart is giving the same predictions on our countries. Australia Germany UK USA new Zealand I mean the list goes on. I hope nothing but the best for China and Russia for their people, people just like us God bless the world ❤️
You're wrong actually. I grew up in China and attended elementary school and middle school there. Even in our education system, we are constantly told by teachers and parents on how America is #1
@@joshuaxie4269 well ok. I maybe wrong about that but I don't think I'm wrong about wishing the best for your people, live well friend
@@thepaperybull2921 List of Countries the US has Bombed Since the End c WWII (may be incomplete) Korea and China 1950-53 (Korean War) Guatemala 1954, 1960 Indonesia 1958 Cuba 1959-61 Vietnam 1961-73 Laos 1964-73 Belgian Congo 1964 Dominican Republic 1965--66 Peru 1965 Guatemala 1967-1969 Cambodia 1969-1970 Nicaragua 198OS El Salvador 1980s Lebanon 1982-84 Grenada 1983 Lebanon 1983, J 1984 (Lebanese, Syrian targets) Iran 1987 Panama 1989 Iraq 1991 (First Gulf War); 1991- 2003 (US/UK "NO Fly Zone") Kuwait 1991 Somalia 1992--94; 2007 Bosnia 1994-1995 Iran 1997 Sudan 1998 Afghanistan 1998 Yugoslavia 1999 Afghanistan 2001--ongoing Iraq 2003 (Second War--more recently predator drones) Yemen 2002, 2009 Libya 1986, 2011
This guy simultaneously strikes as someone full of fascinating information, and someone you really shouldn't trust.
Chinese have survived for more than 5000 years, They are not going away. This guy is delutional washington hack thinktank and his analysis based on journal papers.. You know Joe, there are door knobs in Beijing's Tiananmen square that are two times older than the whole Country of United States. So are the Italians, Japanese, Indians, Chinese, French or the Russians. All of them have a civilisation and a National identity that goes beyond last 500 years.. And You know what could go away? A nation with no racial or historical identidy such as United States. It might actually just disapear 100 years from now.
yeah a classic traveling bard
I'm glad people are able to read between the lines on Zeihan. I read his book and loved it, learned so much. But he ends up drawing all the wrong the conclusions. He's a real globalist, imperialist shill, with serious blinders regarding our position in history. His work is great, but he really should be ignored outside his technical expertise.
Do some research on his background, the team of researchers he has working for him, his books, not to mention the governments and corporations that pay him for his analysis. You might get a slightly more rounded view than from one short podcast clip…
Pro vaccine sounds like it- He believes in vaccine immunity tells me He is a bullshitter
It's hard to trust someone who speaks with impossible certainty.
I think there is a certain kind of people who actually love it and fall for it
Look, I get that. But image if you were him, trying to make a living in his chosen landscape? Can we at least agree that he would surely fail if he spoke with complete indecisiveness?
@@karimshebeika8010FACTS, this is how people are like a cult for Andrew tate😂 it’s just manipulation folks
I know people like this in real life. They're difficult to interact with and very arrogant. Absolutely can't trust this Peter Z guy at all.
He's wrong in some things. For example that Xi wasn't informed about the invasion of Ukraine. He was. The things that Zaihan are saying are mostly daydreams. I can sympathize in his hopes, but it's not helping anyone spreading misinformation.
Wow! 😮 this was very informative.
This guy is relating the outcome of trends, in reality, in their day to day life, people and governments tend to steer things farther away from disaster than those who predict it. IE things are usually never as bad as the naysayers say they will be. The people who said the world will end in ten years, ten years ago for example, and there was no shortage of them, yet here we all are.
I want him to come back on Joe Rogan 10years later
I bet that what he says doesn't come true, it's wishful thinking IMO
he'll probably be dead
he said the same stuff in 2010, will probably be repeating it in 2030 as well.
@@theboringchannel2027 I'd be interested to see that if you have a source. People have been predicting the demographic, political, or economic collapse of China for a long time. I wonder if they're just flat misreading the situation, or if China is making policy adjustments.
@@theboringchannel2027 Proof?
Cherish those who seek truth, but beware of those who found it.
That sounds smart to dumb people lol
John 14:6
Precisely.
@@AIIRHEAD11 John spitting facts
Chinese proverb?
Things coming true day to day
Three months later and the amount of tech companies pulling out of China is huge.
"tech" companies lol doesnt really matter much . The chinese already has some home grown popular tech companies. Well nearly every country has to a certain extent
@@Yu-hx5jo what tech companies like Tencent, Bytedance bruh it is nothing compared to like big tech companies in the West like Apple, Google, Microsoft, ETC
@@ritwikrahuljena2815 China ain't collapsing due to 'lack' of Western tech companies lmao It's a giant manufacturing powerhouse with a very skilled labour force. Apple co. Needs china more than China currently needs Apple As I said being totally dependent on a service based economy is never good, because the global competition is very tight . China never suffered from "tech" companies being blacked out like Russia (again didn't stop Russian economy from growing )
@@Yu-hx5jogot to 3:57 and listen to what he says. Chinas industrial base is massive but completely reliant on foreign companies.
@@PolfPolf That's not a source neither an academically verified fact. If China is soooo reliant on foreign companies and west hates China then ask foreign companies to simply leave China then ? But no China has the skilled labour and the machinery. China already manufactures many things independently. Trades are not unilaterally done, The West especially USA takes HUGE profit out of China.
This man can reassure me and frighten me in the same sentence
Don’t be so gullible
@@mustangx You know nothing boomer
Then you are a fool cause half of what he’s spewing out is pure propaganda
@@sethdemers1530 Says who? Or is it your gut feeling?
@@sethdemers1530 Why is your profile empty Seth? I probably don't have the language pack to type your real name
This dude sounds like me after reading random wikipedia articles for several hours.
Lmao - love this comment!! Throw adderall into the mix for added effect 😂😂
Bingo
And you would be more informed than him. This dudes thinks the US has a bug in Xi's office and they can hear every meeting he has and says no one talks to Xi because they can't hear anything .He's either on some heavy drugs or has a mental problem.
With some adderal and 9 cups of coffe
For years I have wondered why the us hasn't transfered some of its production manufacturing to Mexico, India, or even Vietnam and leave China out of it.
It is in the process but it will be done gradually. I heard some companies exclusively manufacture products in Vietnam and Bangladesh
I watched the full 2 hours. He seems to articulate what the US government might if it had a voice to articulate its hopes and dreams for the future. If intelligence agencies actively sponsor and interfere with twitter, facebook etc. we can assume that they also sponsor authors, public speakers and media personalities.
This guy is so biased its not even funny...
Great point
CIA has been known to sponsor many "grass roots" orgs, publishers and authors.
EXCEPT FOR THE FACT HE DENIES THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS TRYING TO MAKE A DIGITAL CURRENCY WHICH THEY CAN TAKE AWAY OR MAKE U SPEND ANY TIMW THEY LIKE......THEN HE HAS TO GO HMMM SUS.
Team America… fuck yeah
Fascinating conversation, but I’m sceptical of anyone who is so sure of their own ideas
Right. He sounds like a remarkably human robot.
My thoughts exactly. Anyone that confident is usually being honest with you but lying to themselves.
So am I, but if you read his book, he goes remarkably in-depth on his sources and it's legit
Never trust a dude with a ponytail
@@njp4340 Did you hear that somewhere or did you just make it up? Be honest because that is a great quote lol
this guy has made is entire career on what if's
The ad for this video under the video for me was "American Heating and Air LLC"
I won't dispute that he knows a lot geopolitically, but he seems like he's crossed into the realm of manufacturing his own narrative and sounding very confident about it. I trust about 40% of what he's saying.
Explain the manufacturing his own narrative part .
Demographics don't lie. China is screwed.
@@14dimitri Im guessing hes saying that the guest is taking stories or rumours like the Xi story nobody talks to him about anything. Maybe its true maybe its not i doubt americans really know the ins and outs of the Chinese inner circle And id also nitpick say hes kinda presenting his theory of Chinas downfall as absolute fact. He certainly knows more than me and his theory DOES make some logical sense But its a theory. Theres no way that can be presented as 100p as he said. Thats not a scientific statement. That is simply being confident in your theory, not fact. And he could be right. Still not a fact
Psychic wins lottery
He also speaks in a way that seems chaotic and manic. He's bouncing around between Biden and technology and China. I really don't trust what this guy is saying.
I find it funny. In China, people also listen to their analyst on podcasts talking about America have 10 year left.
people need clickbait if you say things will go up and down but life will continue - people just get really bored
Thank You!! The Chinese are not going anywhere... They have been around longer than almost any culture... The only country to give them a run for their money being on the planet longer is India... This is pretty basic here... How long has America been around?? Not very long... Very basic math here... Thanx Chan
@@hughriger6177 China has approx 3500 years of genuine history, Egypt, India etc have far longer, to name just two. And past longevity is not a great predictor of future success. Although I do disagree with much of what Zeihan says.
@caketaster404 bruh, cut the 3500 year bullshit, the Chinese race theory was invented by 梁啟超 in 1900, so it 's not even that old. Before that, they only recognized whoever dynasty is in charge, and all this dynasty didn't really get along with each other very. The purpose of inventing "Chinese" is no different than your "Uncle Sam"~a made up propaganda for patriot to be proud with.
America is already gone... have you seen Baltimore, and Philly.. it's like dawn of the damned.
I’m a time traveler from 2033, and I can confirm none of this happened
Almost 5000 years of existence and they're all gone in 10 years? Not sure about this one.
Haha good point
It's crazy how confidently someone can voice their opinions as absolute fact.
it makes it even funnier when you line up the dozens of other "Geopolitical Analyst"s who have said this numerous times every year since 2000. Just type into KZhead "the collapse of china" and sort from new. Its laughable how china just lives in their heads rent free, every day.
@@rob6354 money.
yea that's called confidence and good public speaking skills. Do you want him to end every comment with a question mark? Live your life its not that serious
china sympathizer
Math is a crazy drug.
Peter published an article in 2010 saying China would collapse in the next decade. fast forward to now, China is still here. Peter basically keeps predicting every decade until either it happens or he dies of old age still predicting.
Haha 😂 true. He’s full of baboon poop
Agreed it's always the same crap. Sure CN could follow the west but they have much more years in the tank. CN is the new empire and anglosaxons must lie to themselves to ignore these fact. They now try to make that silly military intervention in TW with regime change crap by 2027. What they aren't consider they could have lost their currency before that.
Fair, but timing is always hard. Think back to the 2008 financial crisis. Everyone likes to talk about Michael Burry and the others, but there were plenty of people who recognized the problems caused by the actions of the banks and the government's policies years and years before. Identifying structural problems doesn't mean you'll be able to time the exact moment everything falls apart. Again it's fair to criticize him for trying to give a specific timeline; he probably should know better, but I do think you should evaluate his claims of the structural problems independent of his timeline.
China has existed for thousands of years. USA on the other hand is a newby compared to that.
Nope. It has collapsed. You as a westerner have no idead whats happening on the inside. The only thing you see is them fleeing by the thousands trying to get into USA. What's happening now is the result of cowardliness of the Chinese people for letting the CCP taking over every espect of their lives and did nothing about it.
“Men can’t have kids on their own” FACTS 😂
Men can’t have kids without a thunderstick
Fascinating back and forth
10 years is a really good period of time for “predictions”.. it’s far enough away to avoid being held accountable, and yet soon enough to create a sense of urgency to go out and buy this guys books and get him paid airtime, and all he has to do is sound confident. I give him 10/10 for hustle ability. Probably would be decent at selling used cars as well.
Well said
Haha well said. AI production in 10 years will change the game. Also China in 2022 leads in AI papers and parents, and is developing technology. People have been shitting on their innovation for so long they can’t change that mental model. There’s so many software developers in China it’s crazy.
Exactly.
Peter Zeihan in 2014, I would say he was 90% right... kzhead.info/sun/gK2dhbepqqxmfKc/bejne.html
Yup he will find suckers for his book if he is not paid for this already
Never underestimate how resilient humans are.
China even survived the whole Mao thing.....well a hell of a lot of them didn't obviously.
Exactly. People will do extraordinary things to not die
What about the Romans though
@@jeffyboyreloaded Tell that to the 50 million that died under Mao's regime..
What does that have to do with anything he is saying
The point that CCP banks on Nationalistic mentality of the Chinese people is spot on. Mao did the same thing and to invoke that, he went on an unprovoked war with India in 1970
The way he talks, it seems like China is Brazil lol
I listen to Peter with great interest and a heavy dose of skepticism of the coming future.
10 years because of demographics for china but the US has the baby boomer effect. Could be 10 days as China population is in serious condition from covid deaths and infections and now being spread by letting population travel again as 9 of ten is infected with more lethal strains. US population is close to realizing what inoculations are doing as deaths suddenly occur and increasing in a youthful population as life insurance companies show a 40% increase in deaths across demographics. Good luck.
What are you skeptical of? His theory? Or maybe the prediction of the immediate future by experts in China? Chinese government? Sorry if it sounds like I'm doubting you, I'm genuinely interested. It's not as easy as it used to be to just Google things, since there aren't any definitive answers anymore.. Everyone claims to be an expert these days, & they all seem to spend more time criticizing their peers instead of providing thoroughly researched proof. It's irritating
He predicted the Ukraine incident
I know right. but whats crazy is that what he is saying was said before by think tanks, and ppl that swear that have seen the future. What's crazy is in 10 years it will be 2033. I read a book that said we will begin to see the changes around this time. climate, global strife, food insecurity.
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"Aside from the United States not going anywhere, I would say we expect the economic collapse of China in this coming decade." Peter Zeihan at Stratfor, January of 2010
Zeihan 2022 "Russia wants to invade half of Eastern Europe to fortify it's borders , analysis made like we ar in the 1500s and the risk of cavalry hordes is a reality.
@@joeroganpodfantasy42 Russia invades Ukraine and fights an artillery led ground war like its WWI.
@@jdruze7 Russia will have chewed out Ukraine by the end of year and continue to test the NATO in the Baltics. As far as I know the borders have not moved much for 1 year straight.
He was off by like 2 years. China's real estate market just fell through the floor and that's literally like 25-30% of local government resources. They're in a really bad way. Plus factories are moving out because they aren't the cheapest place to manufacture anymore. Someone would have to make the case for why china's going to thrive not why china's going to collapse
@@oakinwol agreed. Peter Z makes predictions which are extrapolated from hard data points. I, for one, concur that we've already seen "peak China".
It’s almost like he just crunched the numbers based on how things are going at this moment assuming they won’t make any attempt to correct the issue, not to mention that they would almost inevitably get bailed out if that didn’t work considering how much we depend on them to manufacture
No way this guy doesnt work for one of the alphabet agencies...cia is my guess
Don't forget, geopolitical analysts are as common and accurate (meaning hardly accurate at all) as economists have been. You can always find one that gives you a narrative that scares you, one that reassures you, and so on. The world is FAR too complex with too many moving issues that no one can predict the future.
trying to outwit life.....
To a certain extent, but demographics are destiny. If the average child born has no brothers, no sisters, no aunts or uncles, no cousins etc. If the birth rate is so low, it's a death spiral. There's no getting around that.
@@anthonyreed480 yup
The problem with both is arguing with certitude on uncertain things. We know for a fact where oil and other fundamental resources are, where they're not, and where they could be. We know for a fact the direction of global demographics. We know how long it takes to construct certain kinds of infrastructure. I trust his comments on demographics. I trust his comments on resources. Where he argues from certain things, you can be sure he's right. More speculative things like the ability to make quality chips for computers, idk, all it takes is one genius engineer with some patriotism and a lot of money (the CCP uses the money printer far more abusively on any given Tuesday than J Powell did during the deepest throws of COVID). Like if they took Elon's DNA off a hair on his comb last time he visited and created a clone in a vat somewhere in Wuhan, this clone would be able to build a chip factory out of clay. I never bet against innovation, especially when there's easy monetary policy.
I identify as seeing the future tho 👁️👄👁️
You know the situation is bad when Joe runs out of questions and just takes a deep breath.
It's the fresh BS aroma.
Literally was reading this and Joe took a big exhale right at the end of your comment. 😄
It stresses me out when Joe takes a deep breath
It's because 95% of his audiences believe China is taken over the United States. Joe's thinking about how he going to explain this to his audience 🤣
@@kennymichaelalanya7134 don’t be stressed sometimes joe forgets he can breathe
That GDP growth says that they are expanding vastly compared to the west
He forgot to mention that it was an Indian vaccine which was most affective at the period of covid. And US volunteered India to distribute it globally.
I love listening to Peter Ziehan, he is very entertaining but don’t get to mesmerized by his rap. His job is to sound like he knows everything wether he does or not.
He said 6 months ago russia would use nukes and invade moldova - he just says whatever the state department/deep state want circulating in the news at the time - then they give him expensive contracts to speak at their events and conferences for DoD and etc... this dude is 100% shill.
He’s a great example of “confidently incorrect”, globalization is so incredibly complex that anyone who has the knowledge would accept that they can’t predict the future like this man is claiming to
He's probably a paid by the government schill
like the former CIA guest that talks a whole 2 hours of nothing
he says what people like to hear : America's future is great, all the other countries will collapse and you'll dominate them because you are supperiors...
I'm still so fascinated by how Joe can talk to anyone about anything for hours without even being boring or weird
He prepares for each guest. They’re planned ahead dude.
@@LudiCrust. That's still fascinating planning and keeping a guest engaged throughout the convo
Simple public speaking skills
@@ansonien117 maybe for you mate but for an introverted nerd like me that's a God tier skill
@@ansonien117 😂 🤡
Double or nothing but I’ll hold the money for us to keep it safe
This dude is so absolutely full of it, I cannot wait for this to age
This guy is so well spoken and articulate that if he told me I'm unicorn with diabetes I'd believe him
🤡🤡🤡
And that is in part, a large part, of why his message, though flawed and full of misrepresentation and errored facts, is so dangerous
The truth is easy to sell
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I thought he was talking about America
3 qualities I admire about Joe's podcasts. 1) He allows his guest to share their knowledge. 2) He asks questions we would like to. 3) He is honest about not knowing which allows his guest to explain better so the rest of us sitting back saying Huh? stand a chance to understand. 🐝Thanks Joe and enjoy your🍯honey🙃
I totally agree there's not many podcasts I can listen to before calling bullshit but Joe Rogan is right on the money with what you said 👍
yeah that's what keep joe rogan real. unlike many podcast who just agree with the information
It’s Mad Honey 😂
Very well put, I enjoyed this guest. Invested from jump!!!😳
Allows the guest to talk and lets us decide what to think
Gordon Chang went over this. They had a meeting about whether they could handle sanctions and no one said yes
An adjustment isnt a super catastrophic or even catastrophic collapse. And later things will get better still further adjusting.
Canada, USA, Mexico are neighbors, Mexico has cheap and skill labor, Canada outstanding resources, US has the finance and technology, all three have good transportation and trade infrastructure connecting the three, the three have meshed in culture in the last decades. Let’s just work together, fix problems at home, and unite to make North America strong and prosperous! 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇲🇽
Honestly, this isnt a bad idea. Unfortunately Republicans in America rather build walls than bridges
Having a giant impassible ocean on both sides and an impassible choke point in the Darien Gap provides defensive advantages Eurasia could only dream of.
@@justinmelendez3760 The Republican immigration issue isn't the problem, it's their new views on trade being more nationalistic without realizing they don't have the capabilities to become an economic manufacturing powerhouse again. Those jobs will leave China for Mexico, even China is investing in Mexico more and more. Why? Because just like America, Chinese businessmen are very interested in obtaining cheap labor and have duty free access to the US. Mexico has I believe the most free trade deals in the world. The inflation reduction act also helps Mexico and China manufacturing of EV's with tax credits (subsidies). I'm not a fan of Biden but economically he is helping set the blueprint to combat China's capabilities.
Carlitos you’re getting your hands dirty papi?
Gotta declare the cartels to be terrorists and go to war with Mexico first....once we get them in line, THEN we can talk about "teaming up".
If I had a dollar every time a “China expert” predicted that country’s imminent collapse…
I think you mean a “Yen”
Right! Usually mericans too. Merica will fall before China ever does
You want Yuan.
@@argha-qi5hf Yaun ? You mean the guy that mows my lawn?
Youd have maybe $10?
this guy is spot on about China.
Can you further explain mam? I am interested in this topic.. and are you Chinese?
According to Wikipedia, "A near-universal one-child limit was imposed in 1980 and written into the country's constitution in 1982." While Mao died in 1976. I wonder how one child policy was Mao's idea 4 years after his death as this so-called analyst had claimed @1:53.
@2:43 Shaking your head while talking is your subconscious denying the lie your mouth is telling. Try again!
The one child policy was introduced by Dang because people were literally starving to death on the streets the gdp per capita was equivalent to India until 1991. The idea at the time was that both parents would pass wealth down to children so they wouldn’t be malnourished and uneducated. But now it in reverse where 1 child have support 2 parents. It like short term gain long term pain.
And the BSer of the year award goes too🏆
In my 40 years on this planet every time somebody says something like this they’re always wrong.
In my 37 years on the planet every time a 40 year old says something like this they're always wrong.
There’s a first time for everything
Not when it comes to Japan. And the Chinese economy is Japan 2.0
40 years ago they didnt have AI or mass collected data. Also, you're forgetting the fact that not everything always repeats itself, meaning, he could actually be right
Living in exciting times.
Joe: when you say “going away” you don’t mean- Peter: *they’ll die, Joe*
It's just a long sleep. Nap nap time.
malthusian
I wish I could listen to this guy’s voice all day and night is it just me or is his voice settling?
I would love to see his thoughts on the falling birth rates in the us
His confidence on these conclusions is absurd, hard to take him seriously
@@upwardspiral7441 China will die lol specific enough?
@@upwardspiral7441 sir, this is not Spotify this is a 14 min clip
He's an american geopolitical expert. It's his job to talk BS and lie about other countries to make them look bad in order to make USA look better in comparison. This guy lies the moment he opens his mouth.
@@upwardspiral7441 ??? It's literally a 14 minute video of ONE topic, wdym "be specific"? He was way too overconfident for the whole duration of the clip, probably the whole podcast too.
He literally works for the state department and his views match the MIC on EVERY issue.
In the late 80's Japan was predicted to surpass the US as the world's largest economy. Things don't always necessarily continue to follow their current projections
was it predicted by him? if not, what does this have to do with the video above
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@@litdavThats not the point of OPs comment. He is saying Chinas economy has been growing and growing lately and people have been saying they will overtake the US. His point being that people said the same thing about Japan but it never happened.
There's no connection between China and Japan.
@p o p Japan will have their own military in 5 years because it can no longer rely on USA. But we are supposed to
8 years left boys!
Talking about Chinese health they also drink. A LOT. I've never seen a drinking culture like China.
This man is so self-assured, it makes me not believe him. But at the same time, I also think one cannot afford to dismiss him.
Read or listen to his book, The End of the World is Just the Beginning...He and his team have been researching this stuff for well over a decade and they are thorough AF.
@@damiannordmann-invinciblee6049 He is conman, and full of shit put next to real analyst, he would get mopped. His youtube videos are total clickbait.
Well worded, 10 minutes into the episode and turned it off. 10 seconds later i found myself covered in guilt and had to turn that on again. Great podcast, one of the most interesting and scary ones.
@@damiannordmann-invinciblee6049 He seems to have lost sight of the fact that wealth comes from using fossil fuel and not from population
I've been watching his videos for a while and I think he's full of shit. He doesn't bring much evidence and his favorite line is "we now know" how do we know this?
This is one of those guys you can learn a lot from but also not trust his full stop truth
Full stop truth. I love that phrase.
no you can't learn a lot from him, at least not anything that is true or within context. Listen to what he's claiming, the write down anything he's claiming as a fact (ignore his conclusions for now and just concentrate on his started facts) and then see if he's either telling a straight up lie (China's trade situation) or taking it totally out of context (diabetes rate, actually lottery than the USA, and doctors, which is comparable to the USA and Canada, while all 3 are gay behind most of the developed world, or even Cuba.)
I got that exact same impression. At around 5 minutes, Joe tries asking how China will combat it and he flatly says they'll die all the same. I got that, "Well he's clearly a very educated man," reaction combined with, 'okay, maybe he's too sure of himself.' lol
you have to watch his presentation that he does for companies and whoever. i suggest watching on youtube "peter zeihan keynote speaker 2019"
@@RetiredInThailand Did you just say American is behind Cuba in doctors or healthcare?
Just an FYI, This guy works the MIC. Literally.
It's important to remember that Chinese civilization has been a succession of powerful societies for thousands of years. They're not "going away" anytime soon.
he is most likely referring to the current absolutist regime, it is failing economically spectacularly, but yes the Chinese people are not going anywhere anytime soon
Those times are extremely different from today.
Please have him back after 10 years
Why is KZhead blocking the replies here... It says "Two replies" and yet when I click it, nothing comes up...
Yeah please bring him back in 10 years. because It would prove what a liar this guy is .
I have worked many years in Mexico usa and China. When I first went to China I was thinking time to learn how real engineers do shit. I couldn't believe how incompetent their engineers were. It gave me the confidence to start my own business. I can vouch for the fact Mexico is twice as skilled. I based my business there.
Look up "rotten tail" construction and you will see why. It boils down to extreme corruption for why Chinese engineering (and production in general) is so awful
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@@TBDmedia so clean you can see right thru the bullsh*t
@@TBDmedia 😆😆😆
What I want to know is if there’s a possibility for a civil war to start?
He said this 13 years ago too.
dudes confidence was amazing. Can wait to see him after 2030 proclaiming again the same stuff for selling his books.
reminds me on cashing in on all the bets about WWIII starting throughout the last decade...
As though the people would be dumb enough to fall for that. “Goes back and references Al Gores movie” 🤣
Do you think he's right on 50% of it or more or less?
Imagine if this all ages well, though. How cool would it be to lean back hands behind your head with big dic energy like, "I FUKN TRIED TO WARN YOU FOOLS"
@@Zack-jc9yb dude he predicted that Russia would begin invading neighbors way back in 2018. SO yea he's definitely right on some things AND @karimshebeika8010 guess what, if we do end up in a world war from escalation in Ukraine he will have been absolutely right in his prediction of WW3
The way he goes on and on with a very high level of certainty on an amazingly complex topic is astonishing. There are way too many moving parts for someone to be this confident
Not to mention China is a strict state run country. There's no way outsiders have this much accurate information on them. He has a point and is probably right on some things. But we can't assume this guy is that closely connected to the internal operations of China.
He’s been fairly accurate in his predictions, in his 2014 book he correctly anticipated Russia would have 8 years left to invade Ukraine - and then it happened 8 years later.
Yeah @19:00 he thinks the head of the Russian Orthodox Church is "the pope of the Eastern Orthodox Church"...thats almost like saying the head of England's Anglican Church is the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church
@@focke-wulffw-1902 I'm not familiar with the book, but if that's true, that would explain his confidence a little
@@focke-wulffw-1902 I feel like it isn't that bold of a prediction to make that Russia would invade Ukraine. They also invaded Crimea at around the same time he made that prediction.
68 yrs old and trying to wrap my head around this discussion …. 🤔🧐
The missing variable factor in all of this is how much effort a group of humans puts in to fix a problem. If the only variables you consider are the problems then everything adds up to an imminent disaster.
Exactly! Humans are quite ingenious at fixing problems.
@@wendyspearTrue, but they are quite talented at causing them too... its a doubled edged blade.
Fix what exactly? And Well also the problem being is these aren’t decisions we get to make this is decisions of people of power so is it really us? I feel like we say this every time someone comes out and says something different.
As long as the ccp is in charge China will always have an over population problem.
Will Covid “help” their demographic “problem”?
Sincere Love & Respect to you Joe Rogan for maintaining such an amazing show of Endless SOLID CONTENT ❤️
Mind blowing. Here we Americans are told China is the next superpower. Media portrays China so differently. I learned so much!!
Usa hates china . Diverting the fact that china already is a power .
I think the the most shocking part of this Interview is when Peter told Joe “ well, let’s not oversell it …..” 😂😂
It made me think of the conversations in " Burn After Reading " between the CIA superior and his subordinate. Just running sh*t while being just a few steps away from being clueless.
Nor no serious investigation of Blackrock CEO Larry Fink regarding their $20 trillion scheme in ESG earnings. Why is Blackrock allowed to be part of the Joe Biden administration?
so youve got cahoneys?
@@karlmoody4891 so let's not do that again. Although I have no idea what we did in the first place. or however that line went. lol so good. love that movie.
Zeihan was peddling the China collapse since 2010...back then he said it will happen by 2019.
As a Military Intelligence Officer I've been following his writing for over a decade. Mostly because of his outlandish opinions are always wonderful material when estimating worst case scenarios. He sure gets a huge amount of media attention for a analyst whose speculation is accurate 5-7% of the time.
I am not trying to be a smart aleck but I do would like to you to mention what fact did he say or opinion did he say about China that was completely wrong. I have studied this for a long time because I was in the military as well and this is my area of expertise and I don't see where he is wrong on many fronts except for the fact that you can say the same thing about a lot of stuff that's going on in the United States right now too. My apologies because I am using talk to text and it doesn't always come out exactly right. I have trouble typing and this is the only way I can communicate.
What does a military intelligence officer do?
"Military Intelligence" is an oxymoron. It doesnt exist in the chain of command. Btw.. most of what he said in this particular instance is correct.
speculation just tends to sell better than substantive facts.
@@samsnead7 His very first "fact" is false, Chairman Mao supported population growth, he had a famous line "人多好办事“,"With more people, things become easier", in respond to suggestions of population control. Under his rule, from 1949 to 1976, Chinese population grew from 400 to 800, millions. He passed away in 1976-9-9, China adopted one child policy in 1982.
Ive watched Zeihan's predictions on the Ukraine war come true one by one, so all I can say to those who are skeptical of his predictions is watch a few more of his videos covering a world-wide context
such as? the predictions coming true
This dude lives in an alternate reality me thinks
The way he delivers his points is like its already happened haha
🙄😄😄😂
Peter Zeihan has a very well rehearsed presentation that he has been delivering in generally the same format for well over a decade. His presentations are all over KZhead if you go looking for them. He generally says the same thing in most of them with only minor differences based on updated data. He's been doing this same basic presentation for a long time which is why he sounds so confident.
@@randyjones3050 Oh yes. You can find videos that where shot in 2013s. Quality is subpar but he's been at it for a while. His dates are more than a bit off but questioning the inevitability is hard, I found his videos in early 2016s. I say this as a skeptic of projections that predict the collapse of entire nation states, given the available data just from the clear net China's overdependance on the world is glaringly clear. He has sone great insights. Read his work after Marshall's, so not a bad follow up.
Just say it with conviction and it must be true, ahaha. What a blowhard.
it's to make himself sound credible and act like he knows what he's talking about....in this clip he calls something undoubtedly after saying he has no data or info on it hahahaha
I love how Joe is not pretentious and is genuinely interested in all those topics, that's why he is a great listener
He has said he only invites on people who interest him.
@@lulumoon6942 Yeah I was confused why this guy even mentioned it, like of course he is going to be interested, he invited the person on. He's not going to invite some one and be like you're boring why are you here.
@@taahasiddiqui1071 I raise you Neil deGrasse Tyson
Ya just love it huh?
Hey Matt, no one cares.