JUST BUY A PROFILE RIG? - Playseat Trophy Sim Racing Cockpit Review
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The PlaySeat Trophy provides much more stability than a lightweight foldable cockpit (like the NLR GT Lite Pro) but maintains a smaller footprint than a complete aluminum profile cockpit. This makes the PlaySeat trophy an exciting option for your average lounge room or man-cave sim rig provided that it has the rigidity, adjustability, and expandability to meet your needs.
But are you better off just buying an Aluminum Profile Cockpit? Let's find out!
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TIME STAMPS:
Intro: 0:00
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Hardware Overview: 4:35
Monitor Stand: 16:32
Flex Tests & Impressions: 20:15
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I got a black one almost 2 years ago, think it was pretty new back then. It has stood the test of time quite well, it still looks and drives like on day 1. Main reason i got it was because i wanted something sturdy for strong DD wheels, but also didn't have a dedicated place for a rig. So this thing is absolutely perfect for me, because it very light and fairly small while still being sturdy. So i have it standing somewhere in a corner, and then when i want to drive i just slide it over to my PC and get driving. Even after 2 years i am still very happy with this rig.
please tell us/me a little more about comfort of the seat (long sessions) and longevity (does it wear out or get softer/looser?)
same here, I actually put wheels on the underside of the wheelbase so I can roll it around the apartment lols
@@AtomicAndi I've done a few endurance races in it, without any problems. Before i had a wheelstand and gaming chair setup. Back then i had a lot of leg and shoulder pain after long session, but since i got the playseat i could drive for hours without issues. The ergonomics are good and the seat is comfy. As for wear, my initial worry was that the velcro straps on the seat might wear out, but they are still as tight as ever. The metal frame stands the test of time ofc, no worries there, no scratches in the coating either
thx, quite a bit more helpful than the generic Will talk ;-) @@Netrole
I agree with the OP. I’ve had mine a bit over a year. Comfortable and breathable. No issues for longer sessions and no signs of wear. The Velcro is still holding very well and seems as good as day one. I recently got a Simgic DD and I don’t notice any flex at all. I would buy again without hesitation.
Had mine for several months, and it has been solid. Took a few tries to get my Fanatec DD 8nm wheel right where I wanted it, but now that I have, the cockpit is super comfortable. Zero flex from the cockpit and everything feels super sturdy. Highly recommended!
I bought one almost 2 years ago… and it’s still good as new. Very sturdy, very confy, and adjustable. If you want a good “rig”, sturdy enough for a dd or any wheel, but without having to go big with a proper rig… this is it
I went with a tube frame GT Omega Titan due to the width and the ability to add wheels. It rolls right into a closet for easy storage once you remove the shifter. The seat is also easily adjustable for friends which is very valuable.
If you're willing to drill holes in the frame, running cables through is fairly easy. A YT search will lead to how I did it on my Playseat Trophy.
Have seen a few reviews about this, thanks for going so in-depth and being upfront and clear about all the pros and cons. Amazing content as usual. Has made me decide to take the leap on this one.
How is it now after 5 months?
I love your videos. your reviews are some of the best around. Its really nice to get quality reviews before going out to purchase sim racing gear considering how expensive this hobby is. Keep up the great work.
Glad you’re finding them helpful. Thanks for the comment :)
I personally run this cockpit with my DD pro, took some engineering to mount my shifter, e brake and button boxes. But overall it's a great lightweight cockpit that is quite easy to slide around. It suits my needs well.
great, someday you may upgrade!
Alu rig on wheel pretty easy to move ;-)
how many flex u notice?
I've had this over a year with CSL DD and love it. As others have mentioned it's very strong but also light enough to easily move if need be. Highly recommended. And the Mrs test, yes 😃
Mine is still perfect 😁 love it and about rigidity I love how it is because the force feedback transfers to the rest of the rig and the tubes act like a buttkicker and its directional too, when I hit a right curb I feel the curb on my right leg, feet and buttcheck
I just bought this rig and haven't mounted anything to it yet, but I was very impressed by the build process and I absolutely love how you are given everything that you might need for any future upgrades or changes to your gear. I can also say that the gear/handbrake holder is excellent. (much like the rest of this rig) Once everything was in place and tightened down it stayed sturdy and surprisingly stable.
could've got the tony kanaan rig which is the exact same thing in person at a physical micro center location for 300 dollars cheaper.
@@invertedjokerrthat isn’t even listed for sale at microcenter only his profile digs and accessories for them
@@invertedjokerrthat’s a full sized 8020 rig and doesn’t come with a seat. This is smaller much easier to move around and comes with a seat. While they’re both rigs they’re not comparable, and definitely not exactly the same like you said.
@@Bigheadedwon nope. The rig I’m speaking of is only available in store and not online. It is the exact same thing as this. I have the play seat version upstairs and the tony kanaan downstairs. Same dimensions minus the kanaan version doesn’t have holes for the shifter plate. If you’re a man, you can drill them yourself. Maybe go do some research or googling first next time. Google ‘Tony kanaan monza rig’ it is the same. Get embarrassed and then delete your comment
I’ve had mine for 6 months. I bought it because I was moving from my desk to a dedicated rig. I didn’t want a full 8020 rig, but wanted something more than a playseat challenge. This fit that sweet spot perfectly. I love it. I use it with a Logitech G29 that I’ve had for about 4 years. For my skill level it’s pretty much a perfect setup, but I do want to upgrade the wheel/pedals in the future.
hi! i'm looking at buying something like this and Im interested in knowing the height of the wheel deck from the floor. Could you measure it for me? I can't find it anywhere. Thanks mate
@@fermillo65 Yea man, because I'm using a G29 I have the wheel deck angled slightly down into my lap. The bottom of the deck closest to me is at 23 inches. The top of the deck furthest away from me is 25 inches. If I made it perfectly level the deck would sit at about 24.25 inches away from the floor. Hope this helps!
Such a fantastic amount of effort that went into this video, thank you! Love the checklist at the end to make sure you covered everything…. It’s so hard to make a decision on something like this without such a detailed review! Unfortunately adding this to the living room was not an option here (as understanding as my wife is, that is a step too far 😅), but we’re almost finished on converting the cellar and this feels like the perfect way to bring my love of racing to the new man cave :-D. Subscribed!!
I have got a black one with gearshift support for one year+ combined with Fanatec DD pro, V3 and shifter. It is perfect for my height (180 cm) and V3s are easy to mount providing extra solidity to the "sweet" pedal tray. I also installed the old belt CSL wheel base and it was a "match made in heaven". The gearshift support holds the hefty Fanatec shifter like a champ. It can be considered the best choice for amateurs or semi-pro simracers.
I use a Trakracer TR8 tubular rig with a GT style seat and I originally bought it years ago because it got good reviews, looked aesthetically pleasing in the corner of my dining room, and had an integrated TV/monitor mount. I ended up modifying the mount to allow the screen to move closer to my wheelbase (chasing FOV) but I race exclusively in VR now so the screen isn't important anymore. If I was starting again, I'd go profile but it does everything I need and I can't justify swapping over now.
With the wheel deck you can take it off and reverse it, so your wheel is further away
Yeah this what I did with my Trophy.
I have done this also for my simagic.
with some wheelbases you can even turn it upside down to lower the wheel, I have my R5 like this and I know it also works with the fanatec 5/8nm DD, some bases might have clearance issues with the bar behind it like this though.
@@johanlawrence4247no way? I need this lol I'm a lil dude 5'4 and I've always just had the base tilted downwards a little. Going to try this tomorrow 👍🏼
@@johanlawrence4247literally replied seconds ago, and now that I'm looking at it, I don't know how that never crossed my mind to just flip it lol thanks. Definitely doing this tomorrow
I picked this Cockpit up for my first rig a few months ago and have major complaints complaints. I can sit in it for hours and not get uncomfortable, I am 5'9" and 140lbs for reference. It took a few sessions to dial in the the best adjustments to use that fit me and felt comfortable for hours or play at a time. I really like how easy it is to move around when put together and with wheel and pedals mounted. Mine did come with velcro to help wires but the velcro was only one sided so it was not able to be used since it was missing half its functionality. Really the lack of being able to do something about the wiring is the only real negative I have with the Rig. I got wires being held on with twist ties, while it looks bad it gets the job done well enough. I have used the G923 for a couple months and then upgraded to the DD Pro 8nm and the Rig held up fine with both. The wheel mount needs to be tightened pretty well or the wheels can can move it when the force gets high. Overall I am very happy with the Playseat Rig and would recommend it especially if you need to move it around. Neither the wheels/pedals nor the rig came with hardware to mount them together so I did have to go to the hardware store and get bolts and nuts. Really wish they would come with hardware or at least say it doesn't come with them and recommend what size bolts/nuts are needed.
Had the Logitech Grey Playseat for almost a year now and still loving it presence in my small little living room. Stick 4 pieces of felt-pads floor protect and l can push the sim around (not on carpet) whenever l need space without hurting my back. I m 1.8m but setting my seat length to the shortest for the rally-car feels. Can literally sleep in it as well. Yes it's that comfortable, cooling as well. Shipping from Amazon USA is expensive but worth it.
Bought a Titan cockpit from GT Omega myself and it's absolutely brilliant. Very rigid, nice-looking, a bit cheaper than the Playseat and requiring little space with the ability to move it around if need be. These kinds of cockpits are great for somewhat regular living and similar rooms! Really love the setup, which I think perfectly hits the sweet spot of having an advanced rig without going full pro.
That title really gives a negative impression, while the actual review is actually rather positive. This is a stellar cockpit if you want to graduate from good old Playseat Challenge and don't have a space or budget for full size rig. Only a sim snob would consider this a bad cockpit.
I do wonder tho why not just buy a car. You can pick one up from the junkyard for like $100-500 and then just remove the windshield or keep it on and put the screen on there.
I had some 2" thick pine boards laying around that I got bored and milled up one day. Cut a bunch of it up and made a rig for my wheel and pedals. Made a pedestal and put in some drawer slides that I found in a discarded cabinet on the side of the road. Had some Paracord from a project that I threaded between the two rails for a seat bottom. After I put everything together I was out of a few dollars for some lag bolted to tie everything together. Fun little day project. Now I have a roadside junk TV that I fixed bolted to the wheel pedestal that slides in and out with the wheel to get out and some castors to roll it around.
I have the Logitech one , got the shifter plate with the hf8 rumble and Logitech g pro wheel, the true force plus hf8 is insane you can really feel the curbs . I have it on carpet I like that you can slide it around and out of the way when needed . Worth every penny !
Had mine for about 6 months, it's been a joy to use. The seat is really nice IMO, it kinda forms around me in a nice way. I prefer it over actual racing seats, most of which tend to be uncomfortable for people who aren't realatively tall. I'm 172 tall, 70kilos. I have the pit set pretty close to the smallest setting with the wheel very close cause I like being stuck in really snug. It would work fine for shorter people. Maybe even kids if you raise the seat back upright (mine is leaned back a bit.)
Just gonna pop in once more, had it for close to a year now and it's held up great. I've used it for about 300-400 hours at this point and there is no wear anywhere. Still in perfect shape. The seat seems to be made from very resistant material cause it literally looks brand new. I have a load cell pedal as well so I squeeze myself back in that seat pretty hard when I brake, still no stretching or wear. Very satisfied. Very happy it fit me as well as it does. That was my main concern when going with this kind of pit over a profile rig, I was afraid it just wouldn't fit me. It's surprisigngly adjustable. I'm using the wheel base mount backwards to get it even more snug. Anyways, I'd recommend this to people who feel like they want this. It does look super cool and it feels very much like getting into a race car. You have to slide in like you're getting into a supercar. Makes me feel cool every time!
I have this - if you need rigid rig that can be moved, this is excellent. The rigidness and movability comes at a premium, but it's worth it in my opinion. Also, their CS is excellent.
Bought a black one last month. I'm limited on space and needed something sturdy for the DD wheel. Highly recommend it to anyone.
I just got a black one last month too. I need something I can drag to and away from my PC, as I don't have a dedicated PC for sim racing. It's super comfortable for me, and I'm very happy with it.
It's the perfect seat for someone that wants a more light weight and comfortable rig with a lower profile. For me it's the best middle-ground between full sim-rig and foldable budget alternatives. I own the Trophy myself and I really hope they continue with this middle-segment of products for years to come.
I got a playseat challenge 2nd hand from a family friend and I love how you can change the shape of the seat in under a minute. Like formula style layed down to gt3 style sat upright in under a min
Hey I just bought this cockpit 2 weeks ago! Im a beginner and this is my first cockpit. Im very happy with it, I got the same color, and mounted my G Pro to it.
I adore my playseat trophy g edition. It's a smaller form factor than any profile rig, and is very light should I need to move it to access wiring etc. Very sturdy, with no flex. I went from a TR8 Pro, which weighed an absolute ton, and was much bigger. This is a better racing experience for me and takes up a fraction of the space.
It has been excellent for me. My main reason for picking it over a profile rig was the size and ability to move around as I can’t have a dedicated space. I actually got a hook that I attached to my wall to stand it upright when not in use. Works great and saves a ton of space.
Caster wheels can very easily be attached to a profile setup, and if you use the right connectors, it can be partially disassembled or adjusted to make it more compact to fit in a storage area. If you use 8020 profiles, it can be very light and moveable with casters. You're paying a lot extra for a very small space savings.
Had mine for a month now , love it so far ! Very comfortable, even for long sessions
I bought this when the DD pro + came out coming from a playset trophy the wife made me keep in the closet. She actually said this one looks cool enough to keep in the living room. Best sim purchase I've made lol
This is the trophy
i bought one almost 2 years ago, and its pretty awesome for the living room. I would like to see the new Clubsport DD mounted on it as im waiting for mine from Fanatec :D
I love mine .Have the Logitech trophy one and it’s amazing .It can slide as decor too when not in use haha .Very stilish,sturdy and awesome for the G PRO wheel
Recently bought this rig. Been racing in it for 2 weeks now and I absolutely love it!
Just wanna thank you for your reviews man i built my latest Moza R12 Rig on your recommendation's pedals stand shifter handbrake all of it and its all be amazing
I've had this rig for 1,5 years with a Fanatec GT DD Pro (8 nm) and the V3 pedals. It's very comfortable, and I'm very happy with it. Also have the shifter mount for use as a mouse tray. I don't seem to have really any flex on the length adjustment like there is on the video, maybe because I have it set to a shorter length. Also the V3 pedals have their own baseplate so no flex on the pedals either. The two things of concern with this rig are lack of quick adjustability if you want to have friends try it, and also the lack of a dedicated steering wheel base height adjustment. But if you can live with those, it's a great rig for sure! Highly recommended.
Hi Will, I sat on the fence due to content creators giving it a hard time on price versus a dedicated rig. I took the plunge a year ago for the awesome looking grey one. I have my DD Pro mounted to play ACC on PS5. I am so, so pleased with it. The build quality is fantastic, and it looks really sweet, so I get away with it sitting on the corner of the living room. If I decide to go super wide and PC in my office, its office first sim second, so I will still need this to sit in front of my desk and move out the way for work. I have a large house I could accommodate a full rig, I just don't want an ugly extruded aluminium rig. Its also super comfy, I can do a 3 hour on ACC and still feel fresh at the end. There is defo a market for these. I agree they need to make a couple of small adaptions 2 holes for running cables internally, there is many vids on YT of people DIY jobs. It would also really benefit from discrete roller wheels just in front of where the fronts touches the ground. This would make it super easy to move about, which is the main market for this. I Plan on adding some wheels to mine and I might drill and reem it for cables while i'm at it. Anyway I adore mine. Just put your self in the mind set of a casual sim racer that has £££ and you will soon see this sat in the corner of my large living room 🙂
I have this rig and I love it. Some of us have to share our entertainment area with other people, and this rig never gets complaints. I just stow it to the right of my entertainment unit when not in use.
I bought a Trophy because it is hands down the best entry/mid level cockpit for me. Amazon delivered it next day, I didn't have to wait weeks, or months for some random dude to send me 8020 (which I would just buy locally and design myself) before rummaging through a junk yard for a WRX seat. The Trophy is perfect for what I needed. It's easy to move, easy to adjust, and insanely comfortable, imperceptible flex, and it looks fucking awesome in my game room. Logi G923 fit perfectly (I'm 5' 10"), and so does the Fanatec DD Pro I upgraded to.
My playseat trophy has a moza r12 and crp pedals attached to it and I LOVE IT
Weird, my Logitech one came with velcro straps to use, as well as felt pads to have at the bottom that contacts the ground. However I didn't have any extra of those weird washers for accessories. With that said though, I absolutely love mine. I love using it, and I love looking over to see it. I also love being able to move it about as needed. Definitely happy with my purchase.
You can turn the wheel deck around for some more adjustability. Have the short side facing you and the back side facing out :)
Have one myself now for several months and I can mostly agree with what you've said in the video although using fanatec's v3 pedals is really no issue in terms of flex. However I'm already upgrading to 8020 rig since lack of customizations is a thing with this rig. While rig is pretty rigid and comfortable I can highlight some of the issues that I've experienced. For me, it's really low and getting in and out is a bit annoying, fastening underneath the seat kept falling off especially when getting out so every now and then I had to fasten it again. While it's relatively light but add heavy pedals and a heavy wheel base(I have DD GT PRO) and you end up where the front of the wheel is heavy and rear end is light, moving it isn't something you'll want to be doing a lot, I solved that by attaching caster wheels to the front and it made moving it around that much easier. If you don't need to move it around then I'd go for 8020 rig since in terms of space it's taking it's just a tiny bit less than the most popular aluminum profile rigs and since for me space has become a non issue and I can set for a permanent rig location it has become redundant. I'm not sure I agree on 'this looks better in a room than aluminum profile rigs', in my opinion new black profile rigs don't look any worse.
Would love to see a short video how you solved it with wheels, as that would help allot of racers who has this seat
I to would like to see the wheels as I plan on doing similar
Bought this frame (logitech version) for GT7 on a Logitech pro setup paired with the family TV. Mounting holes line up perfectly for the wheel and pedals. I also have to pass a wife test, which really means I need to store this out of sight. And that place is the basement. It's still light enough to haul upstairs, even with the pedals and wheel mounted. It's not easy because of the size, but doable for a man of average strength.
I found my zero gravity lawn chair slides right up to a Next Level folding Wheel/Pedal stand with shifter mount. Nice cheap setup. I used some hexagonal long nuts to extend the shifter further out to a more natural position. And the wheel is very easy to adjust up or down for different people. PS: If you prop the rear of your playchair up, it has the effect of lowering the wheel a tad.
Great review. Had one for a while and love it. Agree with all of the points made. I did my own review, but have been waiting for you guys to do a pro one. All good. 😊
I use this rig with Simagic Alpha mini, manual shifter, e brake, p1000i hydraulic pedals with haptic, and Quest 3 in VR. In AMS2 it's so addicting
is it stabile? Im thinking of same combo
I have the black one of this for a month now (switched from NLR wheel stand 2.0) and I like it pretty much. I don't have the space (yet) for a fixed position cockpit (or even storage is problematic) and besides the fact that this is light and easy to move an other advantage is, I can store it vertically with the back of the seat on the floor (part of it is actually under my bed). I bought the shifter mount too (as I have the fanatec shifter and handbrake) really solid too. Only problem is that it doesn't have the holes for bottom-mount of the handbrake, so I had to bolt it to the shifter's side.
I purchased the Logitech edition a few months ago, along with the Logitech Pro Wheel & Pedal. Previously I was using a Wheel Stand Pro Deluxe with a G29. I game in my room so I need something with a small foot print. This was a huge improvement for me in terms of comfort, immersion, the adjustments. Assembly was relatively smooth so I have no complaints there. I do recall there being a number of Velcro pieces but to be honest I cant remember if they came with the Logitech Pro wheel & pedal or the Playseat. It is very light and can be easily moved around as needed, this is with the wheel and pedal on. For those who may be worried about damaging/scratching the material of the cockpit, I recommend getting the mat that Playseat also sells. It's the perfect size for the Playseat and helps protect both the cockpit and tile/floor. It also helps to stop the cockpit from sliding around. One thing to consider is, while you have many adjustments and they aren't hard to do, it will still become tiresome making them to suit other people. If you will be the only person using the cockpit, then you''re in the clear but if you have to share it with multiple people it will become a hassle. As mentioned in the video, there will be some flex but it is minimal. You don't notice it while racing.
the playseat trophy, the logitech DD wheel, pro pedals and shifter, paired with PSVR2 and GT7. it's like a dream, i love it.
I have the same setup with PSVR2. it's awful how the headrest pushes your head forward when you wear the headset. It's really not good for your neck.
@@Dieterbesame problem here, i use a pillow on my back to push me bit more forward and another small pillow to rest my head so it doesnt push as much. give it a go!
because it has a natural true force, i love the vibration it gives to my whole rig, combined with fanatec shifter, it vibrates even better
I just ordered one of these in black 2 days ago from Amazon. Also ordered Fanatec Gran Turismo DD pro 8NM package with 2 pedals. Hopefully, it will come before the weekend. Will be my first racing rig. I'm looking forward to giving this a go.
Was thinking about this exact same setup. How’s it been so far?
@x2pursue it's been good so far, enjoying it a lot.
Good vid! I have had a Logitech edition Trophy with my G Pro DD & Pedals for 6 months with minimal gripes. I Feel you missed on talking about Comfort for extended driving sessions. After getting the rig setup right for my ergonomic profile I have had zero issues induced from the rig playing 6 hours plus. Beyond that the sited issue with the pedal base flex is very specific to either individual mounted pedals or with high force in the brake pedal. For instance with my G pro pedals the base they have eliminated most flex except with the brake force set to 80KG of force or higher than frame flex becomes noticeable but I don’t usually go passed 45KG currently. As for mobility of the frame I live in an apartment and only have space in my bedroom and have to position the rig when in use and than take it down and set it in a out of the way spot I have, being able to move it around with ease is extremely helpful! It only takes me about 60 seconds to set it up and begin power up. This really very important when you do not have a dedicated sole use sim racing place available to you or need to move the rig around. Those big aluminum frame rigs eat up a lot of space.
I run this with the Podium DD1 and V3 pedals with the shifter mount and fanatec shifter. Everything is perfect to me, very stable, no flex and an extremely comfortable seat. I use a NLR floor standing monitor mount for my 48” LG C2 Oled and the ability to slide the playseat trophy back and sit in the seat and play my PS5 is perfect. That is disappointing you didn’t get the cable mgmt, my Logitech edition did come with them.
I have the Logitech edition with Logitech pro DD wheel and pedals and love this setup. It looks great in the room and doesn't take up a vast amount of space. I race in VR so dont need a screen either. Mine came with about 5 of the velcro straps for cable management.
A friend of mine bought one and its like getting into a cockpit, if anything, its to light ! I'm off to the shops to pick one up ! If i had money for a DD wheel and pro pedals i would'nt buy this frame but as a starter pack, for the price, perfect ! Good review !
I have had the rig for six months now and i would recommend it. I have a Logitech dd pro and pedals and apart from being very sturdy, you feel the FFB throughout the rig frame. Left, right, center, even the painted chevrons! And i use it with VR.
Mate, did you get the playseat logitech or this exact one, the playseat trophy ? And if the trophy, why not the logitech playseat?
@@avishaiankri playseat trophy in Black. They are rhe same, in is just branded with the logitech logo
I have had mine (Black) for a little over a year now with no issues. It's paired with a Logitech G29 and PRO Racing Pedals
Hey! Thanks for putting that up! I just wanted to say I really thought it was really awesome! Love the content! Keep em coming 😁 All the best!
Would be interested to hear your opinions on other profile rigs! I recently purchased a GT Omega Titan and it's only $100 more than this (cost including the RS12 seat) and this things is pretty solid! The pedal plate is way thicker than is shown in the photos, there is a quite solid shifter mount, and while I know there are some people complaining about the wheelbase mount shifting with heavier bases, apparently a few bucks in locking screws/washers essentially solves the problem. Obviously the playseat is for a pretty different market, as the GT Omega Titan is certainly not something you'll be moving around, but thought I'd bring it up since the price point to value ratio seems pretty high!
back then when i bought the playseat thropy i had to decide between the trophy and a aluminium rig from a polish aluminum profile shop + a cheap car seat. i took the trophy because i wanted to get the rig fast so i could spend my holidays with simracing and not spending time waiting for the profiles to be delivered, building the rig, getting all the right hardware to mount the seat plus it was 200€ cheaper than aluminium + seat.
I got the Playseat Trophy in black about half a year ago for a Fanatec DD Wheel. So far i don't have any complaints in terms of wear and tear or the quality of the Seat. Treated properly it will most likely serve for a very long time and should for whatever reason break the fabric of the seat do i hope to be able to get a replacement coz that tubeframe is probably going to outlive me.
I've got Sprints mounted to this thing using their baseplate connected to the tray which helps resolve a lot of the flex. Since it's lifted by the baseplate I also slapped a BST-1 under the pedals and another one using a playseat challenge 3rd party connector to the tube under your thighs, those are the same diameter as the OG playseat so those connector peripherals still work. Then I bought a bike phone holder holds a 9-keypad on the left to navigate menus. This sort of rig really benefits from qr2 otherwise its a PITA to stand up and get out of. As other have said you can whip the wheel mount around. Basically have this thrown in a corner connected via extension cables, if you're VR only it's a great solution. Oh yeah, if you get the gear/handbrake holder you can just slap some very short aluminum profile onto it and you can mount just about anything you'd want. Got Heusinkveld handbrake on there no problem.
I considered getting one of these but ended up getting alu profiles anyway, the main reason being that the cost of the Playseat trophy was very close to what I paid for a rig + a brand new car seat. For me, having a proper car seat is a clear win because of the adjustability and comfort
Which one did you get.
I use it for like 6 months initialy with gt dd now i use it with asetek forte its just solid. no complains. (some driling was involved to get the s forte pedals bolted in)
Removing the black rubber cover on top of the v2 elites let's you use a couple of longer m6 bolts straight into the trophy's pedal tray. In conjunction with the two rear points gives a solid, no hassle way, to mount these pedals to the trophy. I managed it solo with the pedal tray sttached to the trophy inside of 10 mins.
my first rig was the gt omega prime still have it three years later almost every upgrade triple screens on wheels easy to move. once i get a house im getting motion for it hopefully. i alwasy like the look of the tube rigs
Owned one of these for about a year before selling it to a friend and upgrading to an ASR1 and an NRG seat for basically the same price (I'm in North America and used a discount code for the ASR1). It's a great set up for what it is: rigid enough for low to mid range NM DD bases and load cell pedals but also light enough to slide/move around a room or store out of the way. Looks as though some people even hang them up on the wall when not in use. The main complaint I had about this rig are the sliding "size" extender rails. Ended up having to fully extend them because anything shorter would just expand under heavy braking over time. Have read solutions where people have mixed grease and sand to keep it from fully extending to the large adjustment under breaking. Overall though better than any foldable/wheelstand rig but not quite as good as a full aluminum profile rig and bucket seat. If I were to do it again I would have skipped the Playseat Trophy and gone right to the ASR1 and proper seat but I'm glad I was able to experience the best budget all in one tubular solution currently. The seat on the Trophy is arguably more comfortable than my NRG seat, even after long play sessions and the lightness of the rig combined with the nature of the hammock style seat made the bass shakers that much more impactful. That being said the profile rig is way more customizable and the Playseat doesn't even have a decent shifter/handbrake mount currently that isn't overpriced and poorly designed. All just food for thought.
Yep. I've had it with the tubes sliding out. I have the pedals as close as they can be. I can't reach them once the tubes slide out to the large setting. I'm so annoyed with this and how much I spent for this rig.
@BoostedMedia. You guys have a super dope channel. really informative and im almost to a point where i know what kind of racing sim build i wanna go with. I have done sooooooo much research trying to get it right on the first try, and I honestly think im going with the Thrustmaster TS XW with this cockpit. I was gonna go with a DD wheel since money isnt a problem, but i just like the plug and play ability with more games. I mainly play car x and AC but yea you guys have definitely helped me so much. keep up the good work. you deserve more subscribers
I can't have a permanent position for my rig so this lets me move it back and forth, it also looks quite neat, been very happy with it, I do run the wheel deck backwards to allow for some more space behind the wheel.
Ha I run mines backwards as well lol
Great review! I would love to see you review the GT Omega ART. Bunch of people have great result with this super cheap rig even with strong wheelbase!
I had a couple of tubular rigs but they flexed so much, particularly the steering wheel upright I had to go for a profile rig, which was sllid as a rock
I agree. The vertical aluminum extrusions that protrude higher than the wheelbase on most aluminum profile rigs break the immersion. They need a better design that can be adjusted vertically without the fixed height of the extrusion.
We buy this because it's sturdy yet very lightweight. For us who own a direct drive wheel but have to move around the cockpit, this is great.
I bought one a few months ago because I had limited space and I wanted something that looked decent in my small space and still gave me a decent racing rig. I am using the Simagic Alpha Ultimate and P1000 pedals (with hydraulic upgrade). I love it. It's compact, but comfortable. Little to no flex/movement. And it looks good when not in use (it's sleek and with the red and black of the Simagic pedals it looks sharp). It's adjustable enough and I have managed to find a great racing position. Plus, I can move it/store it really easily. I would highly recommend if you don't have the space for a larger, more permanent rig.
I know you wouldn't have it set like this but how much flex is there at 20nm? How many kg is your pedals set at?
I experience zero flex with my Alpha U. I am a ‘weekend warrior’ type racer, so I definitely don’t have it dialed-in at a pro level, but I have experience nothing that makes me regret my decision. The ONLY thing I would change is that I feel the seating position is a touch too low for my liking, and I feel it puts my eye-level just below where I would prefer it to be. But I adjust in the software and I’m good to go. I’m not near the rig so I can’t check pedal settings. From memory I have the elastomers on the relatively firm/little travel side, and I don’t experience any flex in the pedal plate.
@@jc_yyz when you get to your rig it would be awesome if you test it at max Nm and find out how many kg of force your using on the pedals
@@TheDoctor46vr Just sat down between holiday festivities and maxed out (in my settings window, based on my settings) at 37KG of force and no movement.
@@jc_yyz thanks man, how many nm is the wheel base set at usually?
I've had a 2007 model Playseat Evolution in alcantara finish for about 11 years now. It feels great to drive in and I can't see any possible reason I'd ever need to replace it. You'll fairly quickly find yourself replacing a wheel or a monitor or whatever, but the chassis is the one part of your rig you only need to buy once if you don't half-ass it. I mean... It's still shaped like a bucket seat. It's still adjustable. I added an official gear shifter attachment for about £60 a few years ago. It's physically incapable of becoming outdated or breaking. Unless I win the lottery and start looking at motion rigs.
Had mine a year now and love it. Made my own screen mount for it and its compact and perfect.
I would love to know about your screen mount. I'm interested in something like this.
Bought this because of looks AND rigidity in use with DD base and a LC brake and was not nearly expecting it to be so well suited for racing. It stays in my mancave and I use it nearly daily for a few minutes to hours of endurance races from time to time. I don’t have any comparison as this is my first sim right now ever but I won’t have any comparison soon bc this thing is so great. I just have the „small“ gt dd pro base (8nm) from fanatec and the CSL pedals but that is more than enough for me. Absolutely can underline everything’s said in the video no additions. 100% buy again.
This looks an upgraded evolution of the Fanatec CSL seat from back in the day. I have owned the CSL seat since 2014 and still use it with my Logitech G Pro as of late. You are right tube designs do lack rigidity or at least mine does. But I would have to say it has stood the test time for sure lol. I bought that thing right before Fanatec discontinued them on a Black Friday sale. Best $99 bucks I ever spent on sim racing gear. This looks to be more versatile and rigid though. One of the biggest issues I have had with the CSL seat is pedal mounting rigidity. I have to mount the pedals very close to the seat to make sure they dont rock backwards when you put force on them. Because of that mounting configuration it makes getting the seating configuration very tricky. Im 5’ 8” and anyone any taller than me would not be able to use the CSL seat because of this unless they are ok with the pedals raising almost 2 inches off the floor under hard braking lol. The profile rig looks to have a more solid pedal mounting design in comparison though. And it also seems to have more adjustability on the wheel deck, seating position, and pedal deck. I think I’ll be upgrading soon because the CSL seat is getting very long in the tooth. So many options these days though.
i have the wheel deck flipped upside down and mounted under the bar, and it works great with my CSL DD, lowered the wheel quite a bit
Same. I never even tried mine in the standard position, and only bought it after lots of estimating of dimensions of wheelbase port positions, etc. I am really happy with my Trophy, and was watching this expecting Will not to be happy with the lack of height adjustment. Turns out Will is 15cm taller than me, which I wasn’t expecting.
I plan on buying one cause the pressure with which i was pressing the brakes resulted in sharp pain in my knee which was due to unnatural position in which i was driving. Seated in office chair. For someone who is very active with hikes skiing and other sorts of stuff that troubled me and i stopped doing sim racing for almost two years now. Today i think about buying one so i can race proper. In due time i found alternative ways of how to adjust the pedals and lower such pressures. But one day i hope to get one if these. Similar.
Just bought a Club Sport DD and Club Sport elite v2 pedals and needed something that didn't take up too much space and would be easy enough to move and this is exactly what I was looking for. Just hopped onto their store and bought one so it will be here either before or at the same time as the wheel base. Kinda sucks that I will have to struggle with mounting the pedals though 😅
I've had one for a month. The lumbar support is subpar. It gave me lots of back pain during use. I also found the wheelplate not being adjustable is very annoying. When youre in a suboptimal position for a couple hours you notice the inconvenience of it. Even in a 2hr stint in an endurance race it already bothered me. The pedal deck flexes with decent force on braking. And since the whole thing is kinda light, if you put it on a smooth floor it can move during big moments of ffb. Also everytime you sit down it moves, making you re-center the thing while on the chair. I also regularly hit my knees on the extended bits on the wheeldeck Those are all inconveniences that you shouldnt have with a rig at this price point imo. A profile rig is way way better
Hi mate, I'm 13stone, 5'11, and fi and that my ideal seating position with three trophy is brilliant. I'm medium on the tube, seat half reclined and have the pedals at a perfect angle. I have the wheel deck flipped so the short side faces you, which moves the wheel further away. I've got the deck angled down ever so slightly. I have osteoarthritis and find the seating good. The lumbar support is good I've got it just in the right spot. Everyone is different and what works for me may not work for you. Its light, easy to build and configure when compared to a profile rig. The seat is breathable where as most of the cheaper seats for profile rigs are pleather which make me sweat and then the seats are flat so you need brackets to angle it. Or get a more expensive bucket seat with brackets... I did a lot of research before opting for the trophy and for me it's been nothing but perfect. Using it with a fanatec dd 8nm, loadcell (I've seen zero plex in the pedal deck btw)
@@StickyGeko I think this difference in experience shows what's the main issue with this rig is. For some it works well, but for others its simply not adjustable enough to be comfortable in the longer sessions.
Yep. It’s impossible for something like this to be perfectly suited to everyone.
I have had this for half a year now it´s really great. i have Logitech G927 and you have to modify so the wheel will fit. So now i´m hoping that Fanatec will have good black friday deals on the DD Pro for PS5. Hopefully they will have even better deals on shifter and handbrake... Great review !!
Sick AF. This seat and the others like it just rock balls.. Sturdy as all hell and just a no doubt kick ass seat.
I have used Playseat challenge, trophy and EVO and i prefer Trophy. I used it with DD2 and V3 pedals and i had absolutely no flex issues. I am 1.75m in height and only thing i had is that i sat bit too low in comparison where the wheel is and the wheel could have been tilted more back but other than that it was perfect for my back and i was super happy with it.
This is what I raced you in on bathurst mate! Haha I recommend everyone cover parts with cloth tape so the fabric doesn't squeak on the metal!
I have this Rig since March 2023 and use it nearly on daily bases. The seat doesn't have any major issues besides one little corner where the red cover slighly started to peal off, but it is because when I get into and out of the seat I constantly rub myself around it. One thing to note though. If you have a shifter plate mounted and the other side of a rig is against the wall it is slightly complicated to get into it or get out as you need to through your feet over it in the air in a very awkward way
How much did you pay for it?
@@ShaunJacob 599.99 EUR
I'm using my one with dd 8nm and csl lc honestly I love it
Been eyeing this for Black Friday. Hope it goes on sale!
I had a similar one for years, even with a DD1 podium on it. But because I'm old with a crook back I got something easier to get in and out
I got it last year and im realy happy about it. I using my DD1 on it no flex oder other problems. I chouse this over a aluminium rig because of space :/ but im 100% happy about it.
I wish I had a profile rig, I wasn’t sure sim-racing was for me at the time so I bought a folding Next Level and it works totally fine for me
I have the Logitech version and there were the Velcro cable management was included. I bought mine in September 23.
the advantage of this cockpit is to be able to move it, but it is still quite heavy with a DD on it, it is very comfortable and more rigid than one seems to believe, very robust, now the problem with this cockpit, is that the seat is too low and there is no steering wheel height adjustment, I put the plate in the other direction (below the tube) it went well with my csl dd, like that I I have a view above the steering wheel.
Good video Will, I’ve had mines since they came out 2 years ago I love the design…I’m kinda trendy, modern style kind of guy, think it’s a good looking cockpit. I started out with a Playseat Evolution tried Next Level F GT both killed my back. I’m an older sim racer so comfort level is amazing, and good for my back. I’ve raced 2 hour races a number of times, and have raced for up to four sessions (with a breaks in between) without feeling like I played a game of tackle football as with previous two rigs. At first was moving it around in my living room which was easy because of how light it is, but now I have a dedicated sim racing area in my garage. Honestly I’m thinking about possibly purchasing the Sabelt 80/20 but kinda hesitant because of how comfortable the Trophy is. Will the Trophy be my last rig? 🤷🏽♂️
I have one of these it’s perfect for what I need. Lives behind the sofa in the living room and I slide it out and use it front of the 65”tv then slide it back when I’m done barely know it’s there. And solid as a rock nothing else like it really for what I need. Albeit abit expensive.
Thanks for the detailed review. Appreciated all the points you made. I’m looking for a rig that can handle a DD and can be moved. I also need it to look good when not in use for as you said that wife approval factor. Thank you!
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