How To Get Hired By Elon Musk With NO College Degree
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How To Get Hired By Elon Musk With NO College Degree | Michael Reeves
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*_"It doesn't matter how you know how to do it, you just know how to do it"_* - major key 💯
as it should be 💯
Who is that random guy doing coding? Does anyone knows his channel?
@@anonymous20944Michael Reeves on YT, he's pretty far from just a 'random guy' lol
@@anonymous20944 his name is Michael Reeves. He actually fought Graham in boxing which you can watch on KZhead. 🤙🏽
@@anonymous20944 Micheal Reeves
Shout out to the random Indian guys helping out in almost every subject
No comments? let me fix that.
@@LuckyMassivePW on his t shirt stands for physics wallah, search for PW coding class or something like that
He helped me not go to jail but he asked me to pay him with Google Play cards 😅
The indian man saves us
@@LuckyMassive its PW skills channel its a unicorn company providing appordable/free quality education
"Random Indian guy," He gave credit, and that's a good job👏
“Random guy in India”
He should say a great or brilliant teacher from india.. wdym by random indian guy so rude
@@Prerna_1232he did say its good quality stuff right after
@@ItsJustFlower I'm not saying just bcuz he's indian, he's a teacher and we should respect our teacher specially in india for us teachers are equals to god i mean more than parents too so that's why i said..
@Prerna_1232 idk if that guy is an actual teacher if he is good for him, but just posting tutorials on youtube doesn't make you a teacher. Im not trying to be rude or anything but that's the truth lol.
The "random guy from India" is so accurate. I don't care how many times they use the word "particular" in their sentences. They get things done.
Very very and ok 😂
Very very and ok 😂 Not just KZhead, quora STEM questions also has indian replies Every science student has been saved by random Indian guys 😅
He is a teacher man😂 (They make content for college students on their KZhead channel)
@@jeetmukherjee2735can you please share the name of that Indian Person.!?
"You're a programmer Harry"
Hahaha. What you did there....I see it 😄
…..And I need you to work 80hr weeks
You're a fucking legend man
underrated!
Golden!
Not the random Indian guy 😭💀
They know their stuff bro even the Japanese, Korean and Chinese stereotype them for being smart and those cultures go hard on studying. Put some Respek on em bro
@Sundowner-jq9tu Judging by how offended you are I'm gonna guess you're of Asian descent otherwise why take offense
Exactly don’t need a degree to do anything now a days! Everything I know a day in real estate I’ve learned through online research!
@Sundowner-jq9tuDang bro, Hopefully you overcome your hatred for the most random stuff
You guys are dorks 😂😂
Random Indian guys carrying the education system better than any government can 😂
He is not just a random Indian guy, he is a employee in a billions dollar company
Yeah PW physics wallah
Tesla hires a lot of Random Indian Guys Just look at their Dojo Chip unveiling and Tesla bot videos. There are indian guys in it
He isn't talking about a particular person. The people who made the podcast just edited him in for the "random Indian Guy"
@@YashRaj-zs1ooyes lol people are dense these days 😅
How dense are you my brother?
"Random Indian Guy" lol
Ive seen so many random indian guys while needing answers 😅
@@SonnyEverywhereindia got the knowledge
And watching them all with a very thick accent
@@SonnyEverywherelol any obscure error on windows? Random Indian guy
The best one is that random professor and former Wall St banker who shows you easy to follow computations for finance and economics @@SonnyEverywhere
After listening to your thought on AMS89K, I decided to buy more and not sell soon
I've been coding for 30 years. Completely self taught. The key is, or at least was, to just get your foot in the door somewhere and then volunteer to work on code. You're then getting paid to learn.
Nobody cares
'self taught' you mean learned off internet. Or you magically started your cc++ or whatever and started with include😂
@@kurtcobain8316 when people say *self taught" it means they watched KZhead and read 'Programming for Dummies' or something. And I'm not sure you get paid as a volunteer... 😁
yea lemme find where to volunteer rq
@@user-gf5nu9os2nYou are either a low quality person or you didn't understand the intent of the OP. They weren't flexing. They were providing advice. So yes, people do care.
It’s always the Random Indian Guy that saves the day solving your problems. Thanks, random indian guys out there 👍
Welcome ❤
That's a horrible lie
yh
You're welcome
😆
never knew that michael worked for the government of hawaii
@@Mikael-jt1hk? they is a singular pronoun that’s recognized by every english guideline. has nothing to do with trans people
michael keep staying mysterious
@@NotAccountablehe made a stabbing robot, that's technically impactful
if you were curious enough to comment then you'd be curious enough to take 15 seconds to just look it up yourself which tells me your comment was entirely bad faith. Maybe smoke a little or something@@NotAccountable
@@NotAccountable it was to make a joke about surgery robots. He basically built a motion tracking XYZ axis robot with a knife attached to it. He also modified a robot dog to piss straight beer onto your floor. Michael Reeves here on KZhead. He makes stupid inventions.
That's not a random Indian guy. He's an employee of a multi-billion dollar teaching company called PW from India (Physics Wala). 😂
Thanks for that! :)
Yeah…random India guy, that’s what we said
What a nice Random Indian guy
Bruh it's not multi-billion dollars, it's networth is currently $950 million according to some sites.. and it might be even lower 🥴
Lmao ain't no way dude said multi billion dollar company 💀💀
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I swear when you look up how to program is always an Indian guy with the best videos
yet, they write really bad code at a real job.
@@drgta6they work equivalent to pay 🤣
@@drgta6then the company needs to pay more obviously
Thank you, code again
Its just a stereotype because the number of devs from India are only going to increase @@drgta6
"Looks like I gonna fail this test" Some Indian teacher on internet - not on my watch son
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hi
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Fr they can even make you to pass the exam one day before 😂
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"I started programming as a way to not be homeless." Yes, I believe that's how we all started our careers
😂 Tbf, he WAS living in his car though! 🥴
Still a valid reason lol
That is true for everyone that's ever had a job
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@@rodwellcort7503no, most people moved out of their parents house, not out of a car they were sleeping in.
"The random Indian Guy" ---- Legend
Here in the Philippines, it doesn't matter what you can do. Big companies here will only hire college graduates.
and some universities don't even teach you stuff that you need in the professional field.
@@duke6477 Most universities don't necessarily teach things that you will use in the field. Most companies use specific tools and equipment that varies widely from place to place, and will train new hires on their specific tasks. The degree is more to show that you have the ability to adapt to that field, not that you already know everything.
Most countries require a bachelors of some sort to get a job in a career. Only America really can you get a degree job without having an actual degree
The fact that just applying as a Janitor for a company needs this sh!t 💀
And youd think with all these requirements theyd pay you a lot, nope, you get minimum 3rd world country wage
'Elon Musk, you are funny. I'll take two hundred thousand a year thanks'
'Love what you did with Twit- I mean X!'
Our engineers start at just over 100k and a 100k stock package,the mechanics start at about $21 per hour and a 5k stock package. Go to school, or get in the industry at 18 and you’ll be set for life.
"Mr.Musk I have to say, I love your online personality so much. Totally not reminiscent of teenage identity crisis desperate try hard edge lord humour. Now when do I start?"
He’d probably love that and accept the offer lmao
Gotta lube up the boss 😂
The idea of needing a college degree to do something is actually a relatively new concept. People used to work as apprentices under masters and eventually- after many, many years, would be deemd a master. Colleges and Universities, historically speaking, were mostly for scholerly work. Nowadays however, they by and large monopolized the pathway to most careers and cheapened the meaning of "master" through certificates that label people as such with very little real world experience in a given profession. Glad companies are wising up to this and judging people based on their skills rather than a piece of paper.
Lmaoo I think those apprenticeships are relevant when speaking of hands on skills, not something an aspiring lawyer or doctor would undergo. You need actual learned knowledge and deep understanding before you’re hands on.
@@Splif128I'd prefer a lawyers without a degree who's worked directly for a lawyer for 3+ yrs and passed the BAR over a 0yrs work lawyers fresh out of college who got the same score on the BAR
@@Splif128not really, not everyone is the same or learns the same way.
College is still worth it nowadays, a lot of trades are now done by migrants trying to get a foot hold in the US or people looking at a second chance at life. What’s RIDICULOUS is the cost of college! Earning that knowledge shouldn’t be that expensive!
@@marleychronic8530 It woulnd't be expensive if it wasn't for the Government, all those free loans cause colleges to rack up on that free $ and the students pay for it, basically all colleges live off of the debts of students.
“It doesn’t matter how you know to do it, just that you know how to do it” is true for everything in life
And still most companies pay for your certifications instead of skills😂
@@RsOnTheStreetS Your looking at the wrong companies
@Sonic-gy7kq it has nothing to do with for what I look. Outside of IT it's like this on more 90% of the companies.
Its always that random Indian guy doing the tutorials😂
Better than letting thousands of dollars going to waste on a college just so they can ignore your resume and ask if you have past job experience instead
Experience is everything and less jobs need college while needed you have experience but some jobs you can't just out of nowhere get experience without a job or college
The connection in college out weigh doing it online, and at any college btw
And all the political agenda crap college will shove down your throat.
@@alexjackyperson101 Most jobs could be taught on the actual job. Corporations just don't want to pay for it.
@@notaspy1227that’s why I’m glad I’m in a Union
I really wish this kid well. He's got rising star energy.
dude that’s michael reeves
@@sarahallen8739 so i'm right or?
@@lestercross5123 Yeah, he’s been pretty sucessful, like almost double Grahams subscriber base 😅 I think he’ll be good. he and his girlfriend are kind of viewed as a power couple which makes them even more popular with a certain demographic.
@sarahallen8739 how bout that. Thanks for the info. Maybe I'll check him out some time.
@lestercross5123 defimietly should, just be ready wait a LONG time between youtube uploads since he quit streaming a while back. He does show up consistently in offline tv and offline tv adjacent vids and streams though, which is where we get most of our fill.
This clip of him is what directly inspired me to get back into programming. It was a passion when I was little but I didn't grow up in an environment where I could learn unfortunately
"I started programming like as a way to not be homeless "vaild 🗿
True bona fide hustla
Reminds me of that line in Good Will Hunting. “You wasted $150,000 on an education you coulda got for $1.50 in late fees at the public library.”
Library?
@@jamIam6548They are big public buildings where you can either sit in and read or rent out books, usually for free and only with a few for bringing them back late!
@jamIam6548 they mean everything you can learn in college you can learn from books at the library
@@mjan3906 so it's a book storage facility?
@@jamIam6548no, it's a library
He's a teacher in a very famous edtech company called PhysicsWallah not 'some random Indian guy' 😭
think he meant as a general that you can find these kinds of teachers online, and the editor just used the best example of one😅 dudes amazing!
Thx for the info on who he mentioned. ^_^
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Can you share the channel of this random guy on youtube?
@@FirstDarkAngel2001 your welcome :)
Being self-taught is difficult but worthwhile! It is a lot harder now to do the same on youtube, there is a lot of information amazing teachers worked hard to share here... Before it was easy to sort out the "spam videos for clicks" because it would be filled with dislikes.
If you are on desktop, you can get an extension that makes dislikes visible. Not sure if the same is true on mobile
any recommendations? I want to learn coding
Thanks for putting Mac as background music
What song is it?
@@methatswho6299 congratulations
I will say, from my experience in the few coding class at my college, if you are completely self taught, you need to be either really talented or have a good resource for troubleshoots. There are a lot of CS students who struggle daily and constantly need extra help sessions after class, while there are non CS major students just go to class and get a straight A. Michael is definitely a talented programmer that’s probably why online classes are sufficient for him.
You know CS is field where you can earn a lot, so naturally it attracts a lot of people. Not all those people are good. From my experience, the students that need a lot of extra hours after classes are usually, not always!!, not the brightest ones. If you are intelligent you can teach yourself so easy. I am an engineer, I had no classes where they teach programming. I still manage to find solutions online for the problems that I wanna solve.
@@loonator1995 it’s about knowing how to PROBLEM SOLVE and find answers to your questions. I am retired national intelligence. Same is true in my field- know what you do know, and know it well; but have enough insight about yourself to understand and admit what you DON’T know and *how to find that information you need.* 🤷🏽♀️
@@chilltarts exactly
cap im living it up in the Tech world with a highschool diploma
I feel like you just described not being a dumbass as something that helps you learn on your own and problem-solve
I was making $2k+ a week as a carpenter helper. It was my first time ever doing that type of work . Some old Mexican dude took me under his wing and said everything “es pura maña.” Meaning as long as you know how to do it your way, it’s fine. Same with life, if you know how to make money with out working a 9-5 , do it.
@user-yc3mq2wm3vbro facts like WTF? where they at ?!? I’ll be a helper again right now 😂
You can find unicorns 🦄 in the trade world. I mean the federal government hires graduates from trade schools (1.5 year long program) for substation operations starting at 40/h Just good luck getting in unless your the best of the best 😂
Bro were you chopping African Blackwood (most expensive wood in the world) what do you mean 2K a week as a carpenter apprentice?
You were not making over $8,000 a month as an apprentice quit lying
Yeah...callin bs on this.
I do wish that people understood this more. Thank you for making this short and planting ideas.
Right. Companies should not look at how you learned. Only what skillsets you bring.
As a way to NOT be homeless. Kudos to you.
You just need to provide proof that youre skilled, almost every corporation does that as long as you present the projects youve done in your lifetime that promotion or job request will be accepted!
That's the easy part. The hard part is getting your resume through company HR filters when most of these companies are requiring a bachelors degree as a bare minimum to get your resume seen by a human, if you don't have a degree listed your resume is tossed to the bottom of the filter or sent into the abyss
Also lying about having a degree on your resume doesnt work, you can easily verify if someone has a degree by using national student clearinghouse by paying like 10 dollars to verify if they have the degree
There’s an approximate metric Uber shitload of people trying to get their first job in tech. It’s really fucking hard to do, even if you have a degree. Corporations use a degree as a filter because hey - for cheap juniors who’re probably not gonna stick around that long anyway, it’s at least some way to filter 10k candidates besides leetcode. The best companies will recognize talent outside of that, but make goddamn sure you’re presenting your talent well if that’s you.
@mrbonotbbilly not always true, my friend. With a depth of experience on both sides of the coin, I can tell you I've hired and been hired for positions based on experience alone. There will be times when qualifications are necessary, but often you will either see ads say "relevant qualifications and/or expedience required". As long as they don't specify a reason for specific education, it's always worth making further enquiries.
Usually you are tested and given a time limit. I have done SpaceX C++ test. It’s 5 hours long FYI. And you are recorded.
The part that he said '' it doesn't matter how you know it '' 💯
It doesn't matter how you know it. Should be the standard for any job skills, as long as you can do it a piece of paper Shouldn't matter 💯
Don’t be mistaken y’all, FANG companies definitely care if you’ve been to college, just not *for programming*. It is incredibly hard to get a job in the programming field without some kind of a degree
This, Michael is not your regular tech guys he's a genius and is somewhat famous.
That’s the point if you have a great portfolio, degrees are not that important. They matter, just not as much as your portfolio. If you don’t have a great portfolio, or are on a field where you can’t make a portfolio, get the best degree you can. Not everyone is brilliant enough to get into fang, but there are millions of companies besides fang. And nowadays you can even make your own software and sell it by yourself, games, saas, etc.
Hello, I don't have a degree of any sort but I work in MAMAA. I got headhunted on LinkedIn. What Michael says is perfectly valid and I am definitely not a genius, just learned computer science after my part time job and became good at it
Also just want to point out it's not easy, and took years of work to build good portfolio to eventually get into these top companies.
correct me if i'm wrong, but most usually filter out the ones without a college degree and/or no work experience to make their job easier
Wow, I first start to study psychology and now I'm finishing my degree in programming. What a weird coincidence.
That's crazy man u and thousands and thousands of others are prolly doing the exact same thing. Coincidence lmao
Weird a guy I work with is doing the same thing too
Programming is good for the psychy
@@FuhzyLiquids You can say this for almost every single thing that we humans do. Any other profound knowledge you would like to share?
I graduated with both But now i feel lost
When you're looking for a solution and Indian guy pops up and now you know that you'll find the answer 😂😂
Congrats dude, great effort 👊
The next video will be “did you know that AI was going to take your job”.
You know nothing about programming if you think that ai is close to replacing programmers 💀 Ai is horrible for programming at the moment. I’m sure it’s going to improve, but id say right now it’s just a tool to help programmers. Because ai code often has so many mistakes, also most of the times the code is not optimized
@@bobyouness the ai has no problems with programming, it just depends on prompts and your satire
Bru chatgpt will only be able to write few basic codes 😂 it won't be able to write full fledged program @@clivir8809
@@clivir8809dude I guess you never worked on a large codebase, ai only helps in writing small piece of code.
@@bobyounessbro I'm doing digital engineering. It's 100% replacing programmers. I imagine that rather than having a team of programmers, companies will start having just a couple overseers to work with AI.
That random guy was from a edtech platform PW physics Wallah as per video in shorts.
@@xon-kun9406your mom
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@xon-kun9406at least she's busy with his dad unlike your mom with their customers
What is the random guys channel name
bro first of all learn english i said [on] not [with] you i pad kid@@8MEalive
As a has been programmer that first comment hit me so hard. The fact that there are homeless programmers says a lot about how we have structured our society. I was lucky enough to grow up with a front row seat to the evolution of front end and backend coding languages and that fueled my passion for self learning. You do not need college for programming but you do need a passion for learning and you need the confidence to go out and get the positions that you can learn on the job with because everyone needs that and people in college think that they are entitled to it, which gives you an advantage.
My dad introduced me to his coworker younger than me, and this guy was offered full tuition coverage if he dropped out and began working immediately for them. Dude had half a year left so he stayed in school. But he wrote a program that accidentally shut down all of discord and it impressed the senior engineers that much.
Sadly in India, many companies still demand college degree.
its the same case everywhere degree would always be prefered but if you know your stuff then freelancing is an option in both india and outside
India are the country with the most unemployed engineers and doctors because noone wants to work on the floor or as a nurse.
just lie...i know alot of people who just lie on their resume, if they check oh well you dont get the job and you move on to the next. they dont check boom you got a job.
For now maybe.
Take one in a subject like computational maths or physics with credit for programming that covers the degree while making the money you spend on college not a complete waste since both of those two subjects have lots of transferable skills
"Fang companies don't care" Also Fang companies: degree in computer science, degree in HCI, 10 years experience, leetcode god
Wisdom is everywhere, it takes courage and discipline to really want it.
The fact is i went to college for comp sci and didn’t learn comp sci until I self taught myself after college. Colleges are insanely far behind on modern tooling. But what he’s saying is common knowledge among people in tech, a lot of people think self-teaching is worse than traditional but it’s better. MUCH better
Bro called PhysicsWallah "a random indian guy" 💀💀
Bro really thinks every random guy is physicswallah 💀💀
He wasn’t specifically talking about him. It was the video editor who decided to do that.
@@captainsmoka9864some1 with a brain🙏🏽
who?
DUDE HAS BALLS OF STEEL
This is the same with designers. Most marketing agencies will hire a designer based off of there portfolio rather than paper. At the end of the day they need someone who knows what they are doing not someone with the highest degree
can confirm, i just got a job as a surgeon using my portfolio of self taught work :)
@@sushibongg9057😂😂😂
@sushibongg9057 buddy all the other stuff is aside but you gonna explain ur patients that u learned to do surgery from youtube 😅😅
@@ShrekDeezi personally dont tell them. they never ask because they see my doctor coat which means i am a doctor.
@@oNoireyou won’t be my doctor lol
Knew this day would come I love it bro
Plus when we interview. They give us problems to solve and prove our skills. It's great
I never knew those companies were referred as FANG companies.
Facebook, Amazon, Netflix and Google. Tho nowadays, Netflix is out and Microsoft is in.
@@Shayman94what Microsoft is in??? I can get a job at Microsoft this way?
Don’t listen to shayman94, he didn’t even know that Apple is in faang, btw it’s FAANG with two A’s and technically Facebook became “Meta” so it’s MAANG. Microsoft is not in it.
Lizard people have fangs
It's actually FAANG Facebook Apple Amazon Netflix Google
Man got a Harvard education and didn't end up with crippling student debt. Well played.
Harvard gives extremely generous financial aid packages. So its actually cheaper than a state school.
Fact. You can own degree clout, actual DIY knowledge and not in debt at the same time.
@@M_Catch You could do all this and then some with a degree; without context this would be a "generalization," of which are often inaccurate or disingenuous beliefs.
The education is easy to get. But nobody cares about they education they care about the useless credential at the end
Harvard is not expensive
I like that "it doesn't matter how you know how to do it, just know how to do it"
My high school computer teacher said to us it’s useless to do computer studies at college by the time you finish the degree it’s obsolete, he recommended learning to and starting our own company in putting in the cables and info structure
How do you learn online? How is this even a question in 2024?
He’s exactly what I would think a programmer would look like
😭 now that i think ab it he looks like a composite ai generated deepfake of the average programmer
But with a cute girlfriend
He looks like harry potter
Blud got severe acne because of all those sleepless programming nights
Bro looks completely normal he just got acne bru
This is very true and applies to a lot of similar job roles, especially in the gaming industry if you plan to become a developer
What a moving story and a story of hope. Adorable human being. Hope he will get all the breakthroughs and success he deserves. One day he will do great things combining his interests.
In my country(underdeveloped one) unfortunately without a college degree job market doesn't even give a chance to newcomers.
true enough
At least in America’s form of hyper capitalism we recognize it doesn’t matter so long as you can make people $$. Obviously the college degree is still massive but you can def skirt around it
@@Ryan-cb1ei It's way harder though. If you are from a target university in Finance, Econ or STEM you guaranteed to make 100k+ out of college basically
Degrees for cs go hot and cold. When I first started, there were a limited number of schools offering programs. Degree programs really boomed around 2000. Before then, it was easy to get work. I had no trouble. After that.. it became harder. I was self-taught too. I ended up getting a degree in 2010s just because I did see Degrees became really important. But I see a drop off of that again recently. Especially if you have notoriety like this kid. I think that's what helped me too. I mean when I first started there wasn't a youtube. But I worked with several companies on hard projects as a contractor. So I kinda got locally know for a short amount of time. I found most places I could just walk into with no issue. Until companies started requiring degrees.
Good luck getting a job now with no cs degree. There have been periods of time in which the most incompetent developers could easily get well paying jobs.
@@Isaac-eh6uu I actually know a lot of people who works with programming with no degree. Getting a degree opens a lot of doors of course. But not having one does not close all the doors. Like Michael says, there's a LOT of places that only care if you know or not, portfolio is your best bet. I know people that dropped out of college because they made their portfolio so great that they were hired and didnt see the need to get the degree.
cs go
how do you get a degree in cs go?
@@red_freire and when did these people get hired? Even with people with degrees or bootcamps struggle to get interviews these days
Congratulations is one of my favourite mac songs of all time. Great music choice
I agree with this 100%. I didn't go to college and now I'm a full time software engineer. As long as you have a desire to learn and build a nice portfolio.
Bro got in when tech was hiring anyone off the street that knew how to program Hello World, made bank, and dipped 😂
Extremely ignorant statement. Tech wasnt "hiring anyone off the street" you just had to be a competent programmer and perform a function
@@chrispyy99 nope, not true at all
@@chrispyy99 yeah, that's why faang ended up with dropping 10-30% of staff
Actual ignorance wow, you never mention that he worked at Hawaii first cause it fits your narrative, sure man they were just lucky and you were not
When faang dropped the degree requirements, the standards for getting in actually became more difficult.
Amazon is dependent on what your going for. Majority of the time they won't look at your portfolio unless you have a higher degree.
whats a higher degree gonna do anyways then? doesnt make sense
If they're not looking at your portfolio, they're not hiring for skills... They're just filling slots, meeting hiring quotas, making "diversity hires" , etc for whatever stupid reason which benefits the company by filling the space.
@playversetv3877 it's a box hr has to tick off so you can get past them and onto the technical hiring managers who don't care about papers but your skill. Degree shows ambition and an ability to learn new things to hr and that's all they care about since they don't understand how to program
Bro just lifted my spirits 10000 times
Love this video, self driven with a desire to learn new skills that are wanted in today’s job market = SUCCESS
I would say it's definitely the harder path. And I can speak from experience because I've tried both. It's incredibly difficult to be the teacher, program coordinator, and the student. But If you find a good college they teach you how to think in general and for your major. The degree is like a guarantee that definitely makes it easier to find a job. Just be careful of the colleges that are trying to teach you what to think.
Everyone learns differently, the self taught path isn't for everyone. Me personally, I found self teaching a lot easier than school. I never went to college and took a similar path of Michael. Except I'm not a youtuber lol
I went closer to his path. I work for one of the largest software companies in the world and I have no college degree and no formal education beyond high school. What I did was start work early after high school in similar, entry level jobs. I slowly moved up and eventually landed a full time salary job where I'm at now. Currently making about $170k/year after bonuses. I have never ever, not once, ever been asked about my education, lack of college, or anything about how I actually know what I know. In the full interview they just wanted me to prove I knew how to problem solve and wanted to get an understanding of how I think and approach problems.
Software engineering is unique in that the degree you leave with rarely covers the mechanics of your day to day work which is changing rapidly as technology evolves. Frequently employers are looking for candidates with experience on their specific tech stack and that trumps any degree.
@@MattDunlapCO true but it's easy to miss fundamentals that are always applicable in some way. Things you didn't know you didn't know. Questions you don't know to ask. This is what's great about doing college at least for the beginner. Further education is becoming dubious at best and I would agree it's even more the case for software engineering.
@@reachtrev69 I have a CompSci degree, but the best engineer I know started working out of high school and is entirely self-taught. He had a hard time getting interviews before his first full-time non-consulting job (working for me at a major FinTech almost 18 years ago) but then no one ever cared that he didn't have a degree again.
Dude is right. As a programmer myself who didnt come from a reputable school, companies pay more attention to experience than qualification.
It's always been like this. Employers never cared if you got papers as long as you got the skills. Only exceptions would be professions that require certain official qualifications like doctors, lawyers, etc. Programming? Marketing? Building? Art? Really, just about anything outside of those professions that require qualifications... employers won't care about papers if you can show you have the skills and it's always been the case. If they seem to care it simply means you don't have the skills. If you have them, you can prove it and you won't have much trouble convincing them.
@@thenonexistinghero you clearly missed the point of what he is saying. If everyone understands it, then why do people pay ridiculous fees to go to university instead of college.
@@JunixKuizon People pay ridiculous fees because most are not competent enough to learn and study on their own initiative. Doesn't change the fact that if you are competent enough, you don't need papers for most professions. Even for a lot of professions that you do require certain papers for to legally practice it's possible to study on your own initiative and then basically just only go through the requirements to prove that you're capable to get those papers.
@@JunixKuizoninertia, most people can't learn by themselves. If you were raised in a world where you had to be quiet for hours since a boy, and then you make the same for years. What that will make yo your brain? You become a zombie, it's like unreal, but there is a lot of people extremely useless even I they have degrees.
I'm not even a coder and I know that. Experience is everything.
Yet these very same people will say college isn’t worth it
I love this guy, i started one of those free hardvar classes and is amazing i learning ao much
big tech 100% cares if you went to college. Ive applied there many time with 10 years experience no degree. never get a call
Also if you’re lucky enough to get hired without a degree you probably won’t get any major promotions salary raises
There's some pretty good reasons to want developers with CS degrees. I have a bachelor's and I'm not qualified for a lot of positions which require masters or PhD. 75% of software developers don't benefit from a CS degree in their position though. I definitely don't use much of what I learned in school, I was a programmer long before I started college
What are your working projects? Those projects need to hold value for faang to think they can enhance your skills. Make meaningful projects you’ll get hired at big tech. Or just get a degree that might work as well.
Resume is worth less than portfolio
He said big tech doesn’t care if you went to college (((for programming))).
So much bad information on all social media platforms about how easy it is to get into tech. Many college grads are struggling to find roles right now. The big tech companies absolutely prefer people with degrees over people without degrees. Learning to code and getting to an employable point takes years of hard work and is not an easy get rich quick path.
It's not degree, it's portfolio, people just cope and find reasons because companies when they see a young Mark making a great social media site called Facebook and if he didn't have a degree they will not be questioning, they will hire him. Rules gets changed for the talented individuals.
Yes, this is the truth!
@@KamyFXbro Facebook was invented 20 years ago. You’re not trying to say the tech industry is in any way shape or form the same as it was 20 years ago are you? 😂 there are millions of extremely talented coders who have degrees, incredible portfolios and no job. Why should a company hire you over one of them?
@@juggles5474 Sure man they are soooo much of them that big companies are looking for months on one position but still can't find talented individuals. There are? yes but not many, especially young talented individuals will stand out for sure and will have a great career for them, sure at the start they maybe a "hidden gym" compared to thousands of cv applications but they are ready for any opportunity to come. Why would they hire you? For there benefits ofc. Did you think the corporations are giving you little timmy a chance by dropping degree requirements?? Hell no. They want to maximize their reach, they don't want to block off the great programmers that is having great skill and doing great projects out of love while not studying CS, they want those people, they will pay the same, so why not choose the best? Why statistically limit your reach.
Second all comments in this section. It’s not a degree people need it’s experience. Eps. for programming
This is the bright spot of the day. I'm inspred.
People with short term memory can study hard for an exam, than pass it with an A and forget everything after that. Get their degree🎓 and don't know anything...
Harvard also does markets online..thats how I learned. When people ask me, I say I went to Harvard School of Business, because, I DID. I did all the tests, bought the books and completed full studies. Yay Harvard!
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How do you look more into this?
I love that you don't have to do any post secondary as long as you're driven and have the knowledge
HANDS DOWN AN AMAZING YOUNG MAN.
I know this dude's sister! Super chill people even when the cameras arent on. Man, looking backat it- I've ve known these people for several years. Maui no ka oi 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
As a software engineer going on a decade now, I can tell you, a degree in computer science means nothing to me. College teaches you how to think like everyone else. The self taught programmers are always the ones who come up with unique solutions and approach every problem with a fresh perspective.
So true!
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You can be both.
Mr Robot
Preach my guy ❤
"So you certified medical doctor?" "Nah I just learned it online"
this is what i was thinking too. like Michael's advice is so nuanced that you pretty much are blocked out of any respectable job without a degree. try being hired as a chemist, therapist, or an editor without their respective degrees. sure some subjects like programming can be self taught but the jobs that you get are usually dead end jobs and anyone that uses personal experience to say otherwise probably got their job in the past when the job market was significantly better. if a job position has 100+ applicants, why would the company even remotely put energy into considering the one applicant that is self taught when the rest have a bachelor's or masters, on top of potential internship experience.
That's why he said programming is easy to learn online
@@iclickmouse Programming is just a tool to solve a problem though. Knowing how to use a tool is only a very small part of being an engineer. An engineer has to fully understand the big picture: plan the project, calculate the cost, social and economic impact, lifecycle of the product, understand the effort, weight different approaches, gather requirements, validate, verify, test, etc. etc. etc. Programming is a small part of the entire development process. Saying you know how to "program" means you can use a tool. It's like being a nurse compared to being a doctor.
@@captain_bretzel true, the guy didn't say he learnt how to solve problems from KZhead. he said he learnt programming (the language and Syntax) on KZhead
Great advice as always, TENZ
He's got that androgynous IT guy phenotype going. Programming was his destiny.
I talked with some people from google hiring team and they told me that they DO take into consideration if you finished uni or not especially if you want to get an internship at them it’s crucial to study at an university.I agree that a few years back you could learn programming on youtube and get a job.Nowadays this industry is oversaturated and the requirements of each company increased dramatically meaning it’s a lot harder to learn a good amount of information that will get you hired.I am not saying it’s impossible,it’s just really hard and not how people expect it to be
and on top of this, people are making it seem like its black and white: degree or no degree, when usually the people that went to university have additional certification, internship, or shadowing experience on top of their degree. even then its hard for them to get a job when theres like 100+ applicants for one job.
Big tech absolutely cares about your degree. More now than ever before. Keep in mind that CVs are mostly processed automatically nowadays and if the right degree is not on your CV, your CV will be thrown out. Anyone claiming otherwise most likely has no experience with the current job market. Besides, even if they would hire you, good luck earning as much as someone with a degree.
Not in my experience. I was the lead engineer for our team and we didn't care about schooling at all. Only what you have done. I found our best engineers were uber nerds and they would spend non-work hours geeking out. We would also pay them based on what they contributed and not on any degree.
My friend worked for Google right after high school. Obviously college is important but there are other ways to learn.
@@byebyefederalreserve Did you work for a FAANG company hiring junior engineers?
@@byebyefederalreserve super true.
That's what colleges want you to think lol
it's all about being able to solve problems! The better you are the more valuable you become. then it's just a matter of learning all about the Scrum/Agile ceremonies, communicating better, becoming a leader, etc...
I agree a degree in programming is worthless today, so many online bootcamps
Checked the spacex career info just now. Requirements are always bachelors degrees my dear 🤗
Until you show them your work. This works in many careers
A lot of bakeries expect a bachelor's or associates unless you know how to bake
@@tjpaiva3296 i doubt that you would even get an interview if they see that you got no degree, when they write in the career info that a bachelors is the minimum.
@@marlonjormungand7845 send em a picture of you baking something you'll have a job
@@marlonjormungand7845 it doesn't work like that in jobs that require skill. If you have the skill you can do it. It's a requirement because they do want those people but I'm telling you, if you have good work and show them it can definitely get you in.
Michael Reeves is an entertaining content creator and has a good grasp of the basics of software engineering and hobbyist electronics but he has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to top tier tech companies. FAANG absolutely cares if you went to college, ideally a top-10 feeder company. Now, are there exceptions? Of course, but it is much more likely for a Stanford CS grad to get the position over the hundreds of thousands of online bootcamp grads being churned out every year, especially in this job market.
Yeah, there is no chance you have a good grasp of data/code architecture if you didnt go to college
@@Trizzer89That's one of the takes of all time.
@@Trizzer89 yeaaahhhhh, no...
@@majestyzx9081 I think we can all agree that on average, the person who went to college is going to be more knowledgeable on basically any subject they went to college for than someone trusting random online sources and youtube videos. I'm not saying you can't learn skills online, you can, but you are going to lack inherent knowledge that someone who did go to college has. If you can't agree with that, you're simply not being objective.
@@sway_onthetrail Random person online? Look. Programming is a language, just like any language you speak. You didn't go to college to learn English. You didn't go to college to "perfect" English, it's an ever expanding language with rules being bent and broken as new words and shorthand are added to the lexicon. Programming is the same. All it's doing is interpreting the user's syntax into machine language. There are ways to bend and circumvent the rules, find ways to implement iterations & shorthand previously existing code to make it more efficient. Just like a "slang" word in the English language before it enters the lexicon proper. Some of the most prominent writers in English break the rules all of the time. Cormack McCarthy doesn't use punctuation in his books, yet you can still read and understand the intentions behind it. Saying that going to college gives you an inherent grasp on a language that others don't have is just factually incorrect. College courses on any language, spoken or typed, is not a 1:1 representation on how that language is used day to day in the lives of people who speak it. It's fluent, ever changing, and C++ you learned in college 10 years ago has changed many times over as the community that natively uses that language has iterated upon it. Just like words such as "Tweet" or "Drip" have entered the english lexicon.
It always should matter what you can do and not what a piece of paper says you can do❤
I’m a programmer. What they don’t tell you is how mentally hard is the selection process. You get all kinds of intelligence tests. That’s where impostor syndrome comes from
Tenz doing side quests😂
Bro this is not tenz
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Recruiters care about having a degree and a lot of job applications will minimum require a bachelors. They will give you an auto-reject on your application if you don't have that. Even with a degree now and experience you will have trouble. This video is also wrong, in that Tesla's software engineer jobs require a college degree lol.
is he lying or telling his IRL experience. just because you had to have a degree doesn't mean everyone else does. and also, you can lie and show off your skills later.
@@Ndasuunyewell he never worked in big tech, he worked for the government which has notoriously low standards for tech
@@Ndasuunye companies nowadays use bots to auto reject applications. Having degree is one of top priorities to check.
That's most people's first problem - going through recruiters. They're pretty much useless for most. What most people fail to realize is that relationships is what get most people jobs. Go to professional networking events and talk to as many people as possible. It also helps to know a bit about the profession to present yourself as knowledgeable. Given the high turnover rates most companies have, getting a job, once you're known by enough people in a local industry becomes a lot easier.
@@worldspam5682yes which is why you say you have one on the resume but in the interview you are honest if asked That’s how I got my first job
This is good motivation to actually learn something online 🎉🎉🎉
Theres soo much truth to this!