Tiny 11 is a stripped down, debloated version of Windows 11, that is perfect for tiny computers. Trying out Tiny 11 on a Sony VAIO UX ultraportable handheld and a Microsoft Lumia 950XL phone.
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@Kingdom3533's Tiny 11 ARM video, 'Windows 11 Phone? | Tiny11 Pro 22H2 on the Lumia 950XL'
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Tiny11 for Arm64
archive.org/details/tiny11a64
Scripts to build a trimmed-down Windows 11 image
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Lumia Windows on Arm Project
woa-project.github.io/LumiaWOA/
Apply Windows Image using DISM Instead of Clean Install
www.tenforums.com/tutorials/8...
How to use DiskPart to clean and format drive not working on Windows 10
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Music:
Glimpsing Infinity - Asher Fulero
Depeche Mode - Stripped (Down to the Bone excerpt)
I made an error in this video saying this UX has a Core2Duo, The CPU in this machine is an Intel Core2Solo U2200 1.20 GHz. Fun fact: did you know it's possible to replace the Core2Solo with a Core2Duo CPU and some fine soldering skills. It has been done by some skilled VAIO UX owners in the past. I will need to learn more soldering skills before I can try that myself though :)
Correction on Intel's first 64-bit CPU: That honour goes to the ill-fated Itanium which was intended by Intel to be their replacement for x86 but did not catch on beyond some use on servers and workstations. The first x86-64 chip by Intel was a Xeon model called _Nocona_ and the first consumer-grade Intel CPU to come with x86-64 was the E0 revision of the Prescott core.
Could you please try and run the latest version of Android on a old computer lol pls do it
dosdude1 might be able to do this type of magic (possibly memory increase as well)
you should find a professional soldering repair shop and send it to them to do, with those tiny bga chips its very easy to break pads or get melted to gether solder balls which may kill the cpu or mainboard
ghost spectre is better than tiny 11
Seeing the Lumia running W11 so badly makes me want to see Windows phones come back. With a few tweaks it could be amazing and give a totally unique mobile experience with the taskbar, especially as W11 now runs Android apps so wouldn't be many downsides as I assume you could find a way to sideload most android apps and google services needed to run things like YT. I would 100% rock one.
Same here. For a long time I hated Microsoft for killing off Windows Mobile as I saw it as a true Windows on a phone experience but now I'd gladly take a modern Lumia and, as you say, Android app compatibility would fix the issue of lacking app ecosystem
youtube in browser on Android allows you to play video with screen off while it's blocked as a paid feature in the app what would you need the app for?
microsoft you can come back to the fight just get win 11 phones we will be happy for the return of windows mobile 11.
Linux phones are becoming a thing
@@AncientTruthSeeker Linux phones have crappy UX. It's just a reskinned GNOME and most apps are optimized for desktop usage.
This is making me compelled to buy a Lumia 950 now, since I absolutely love the idea of miniature devices behaving like a desktop
The 950 XL model is better. If you can find one for a good deal it's an amazing little computer. Just remember the GPU is not well supported for graphics such as gaming.
@@JanusCycle They're basically the same thing, 950XL is better supported for these mods though.
Take a look at renegade project first, Lumia is sadly too old for Windows 10 and 11, but other phones can be better option
@@balmashev93 I'm interested in the renegade project, but it seems a lot more complicated to get started with as it simply supports more devices and is more involved. Plus, the Lumia 950 series of phones is typically more modifiable, cheaper, and interesting to me.
Had the XL at released, coworkers laughed at me not having an iPhone or android. Jokes on them, I sold it for $50 😅
Your videos give this unusual 2013 KZhead feels and I like it a lot. Plus it's always very interesting to see these obscure and unusual devices from the time when companies used to experiment a lot. Love your videos!
2013 KZhead feel, I like that!
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This reminds me of my teenage years. I remember back when I got Android to run on an iPhone 3GS for the first time after a jailbreak. It's so fun freeing our little devices to do things they were never intended to do.
best KZhead channel ever
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I went to the comments section just to write this
+1
Yes I subscribe to him😊😊
For real
Hands down one of the best channels on youtube and found it by chance. To be honest, i didnt imagine the videos would be so informative, fun and professionally made. Thank you for your hard work. Probably the first channel i clicked the bell icon for. Can't wait for more nerdy, software flashing on old devices...
Entertaining video, I wasn't too surprised by how slow 11 is on the VAIO.
Bought my Vaio UX a few years ago (second hand) just to fulfill how I remember seeing one in the shop as a kid and thought it was so cool. I elected to leave it on XP as it just really isn't up to running even 7. I do actually still use it occasionally for one purpose, as it is extremely portable to take with me in my car, and has no trouble running its equally ancient ECU tuning software.
XP really is the best for this model. I may go back there after trying out these other OSs. Great to hear from a fellow UX owner :)
@@JanusCycle I tried to stay with 7 Starter for a while, but even that wasn't optimal. Some of them apparently shipped with Vista and I can't comprehend how those were ever usable. The slide-up keyboard is a godsend for my application. I thought to upgrade to a newer Win10-based tablet, but because most interactions require having to input numbers, onscreen keyboard is super annoying.
@@Ashquacks Honestly, Vista wasn't the resource hogging monster everyone seems to remember it as, provided there were good drivers available for your hardware.
@@delimitnc yes I know, I'm a big fan of Vista. This however was a machine that, even when it was new, was woefully underpowered. Anything beyond XP just isn't a good time.
Genuinely in awe of you sir! Recently yet unexpectedly come across you and your channel and content. Absolutely hooked on your content! Stay amazing sir!
just found this channel popped-up on my youtube timeline and already love it and watch half of the content
Amazing work! This is huge, Janus
This popped up in my recommendations. Instant subscribtion. Keep up the good work. Now I want one of those VAIO s too
I am really happy I found your channel, it is very informative and interesting.
When you are starting windows you need to set up a manual pagefile size of a few gigs or memory, strip down effects and unnecessary things, go to accesibility and disable transparency and all that stuff, and finally energy plans and set it on high performance. This usually increases responsiveness.
thank you for all the work you do. i really enjoy every video you make. please dont change this style of making videos. :)
Mate I’ve fallen in love with this channel. You’ve got the perfect amount of everything needed for a great channel. Interesting technology, a good voice, knowledge, and a love for tinkering. Btw, it’s such a shame that Lumia didn’t continue till today. The 950XL was a fantastic phone, and I really liked its UI. Look forward to more of your videos mate. Cheers.
I'm glad you are enjoying. Thank you for your compliments :)
that's really dope I never knew you even COULD run alternate OSs on the windows phones...
Subscribed. Love your formatting and content.
you're improving a lot, congrats!
I just discovered this channel! And I regret not finding this earlier! Your content is super duper awesome and I love it. It's my style! Thank you and can't wait to see more. 😊
I'm really glad you found my channel. I enjoy making these videos and it's good to hear you want to see more. Thanks.
My jam is weird and obselete technology that is unheard of to many people. And your channel fits that. Haha
Same, today
Awesome video, awesome channel, thank you so much for this content! I think your channel is gonna grow soon!
Thank you for this. Possible future life for Lumia phones. ❤ I love Lumiaaaa
Cool video. Thanks for the shoutout :) The comparison between the VAIO and Lumia is very interesting. Shows how far technology has come in the last decade. Have you seen Windows 11 on the 2018 PocoPhone F1? From videos at least, it looks amazing.
FINALLY, someone put Windows on an Android device thats not made by MS. Not that i have anything against MS, id love a Windows Duo, but they are still so costly.
You have some great videos and deserve the shoutout. I've been monitoring the Renegade Project, very impressive work. Looking forward to seeing where this goes.
@@JanusCycle The best option for now is Poco X3 Pro, 'cos it has powerful Snapdragon 860 with GPU capable of x64 emulation. Take a look at videos with it, it's really impressive
Jack, am I annoying to you? , I am! oh yes!
@@balmashev93 Thanks for the hint. That is very impressive. I might have to buy one to test it myself :)
I've been waiting for this ever since Tiny11 came out.
Great video! Great channel. Best wishes from Panama 🇵🇦
I'm glad you are enjoying the videos. Hi to everyone in Panama!
I love the fact you tinker with older tech on this channel like me. We all likely have a tech graveyard. Of the days past that were top of the line, then eventually fell out of favor. And finally, ended up relegated to a drawer or box. But I love picking up old tablets, watches and phones I have and searching for custom roms for them, to see if they can be updated. Mainly just because I can. But also, I hate the fact we create so much e waste. If I can find little jobs these old techs can do for me. Maybe just one job. But do it semi capably around my house (for instance an old tablet for bathroom music). That can just sit on a shelf in there and stream music when showering or getting ready for the day), then that is a win for me. Thanks for the interesting videos! ❤❤❤
I very much agree with your philosophy. Keep exploring that older tech!
@@JanusCycle will do!
Really enjoyed this video.
The Vaio would benefit from Windows 8.1. Yes, really. Even lighter than Windows 7 and of course 10, it's great for Core 2 based machines. I was able to daily drive a 2006 Dell XPS M1710 a few years ago when my Mac was in for repair.
I agree, its the most stable windows version PERIOD
I still have windows 8.1 on a laptop and desktop of mine, with startisback+ as well to make it more 'normal' lol the desktop is my vr rig though and it's frustrating that some programs want windows 10 and refuse to run on 8.1 now
For an actually good user experience, you could try Tiny7 which uses less than 512mb of ram and can even fit into under 2GB of storage if you disable the swap partition
but is it for arm?
Is there a Tiny Vista out there?
Honestly there's even a way stripped down version then tini11 called atomic11, it's 1Gb in size. It runs so smoothly on my surface go 3
Ghost Spectre Super Lite is the smallest versions of W10 and W11, Lite10 and Lite11 just removes the usual stuff but Ghost Spectre goes a step further.
@@SMGJohn Ghost Spectre Super Lite is about 3.4 GB in size, while Atomic11 is only 1Gb.
@@marco.scaligeri Bruh, size is not what defines how well it runs, its the services running in the background.
@@SMGJohn I tested both, size means also less services runnnin in the bg...that's why I'm suggesting it ;)
I really like your clean pronunciation, I can easily watch without subtitles, thanks for that.
cool, thanks
Nice content, I’ve subscribed
Congratulations on the 10k subscriptions :)
thank you
Wow super cool and interesting!!!!
To install windows 11 on unsupported hardware, you can also open regedit from cmd, create a key with a few values, then the OS installs as normal.
my new favorite channel
0:40 I love everything about this setup
Pro tip: Most of those Windows CMD commands in diskpart all have shortcuts. Example: "select disk 1, select partition 1" can just be "sel dis 1, sel par 1" etc.
I have since learned and done this :)
4:58 " *Tnstalling* this is relatively smooth ..." 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
I would suggest trying micro 11 for the vaio, even tho it has weird quirks like not having a required service to connect to internet. Maybe you could try adding it back?
if you want to speed up timing for the DISKPART install, you can use ‘conv mbr’ ‘cre part pri’ ‘form fs=ntfs quick’ ‘sel part 1’ and other commands as normal.
great tip, thanks
8:47 - The 'Prescott' revision of the Pentium 4 was actually Intel's first x64 CPU. They licensed AMD's x64 instruction set from the AMD Opteron.
That Sony Vaio still looks pretty sweet, even by today's standards. And now you've made me look at my old Nokia Lumia 1020 and wonder what I could do with it.
Also, a tool called "MSGM Toolkit" can be used to make custom Windows ISO's. I usually will start with a Windows Server ISO, to get the cleanest base with no bloatware, than you can strip EVERYTHING with MSGM Toolkit. From the Microsoft Store and Cortana, all the way down to Windows defender, the start menu task bar and explorer.exe itself, etc. Obviously it can go overkill, but it's way more powerful. It's also open-source and just functions using simple DISM commands. Windows defender in particular, is very taxing especially on old hardware. Obviously it's never exactly a good idea to remove your anti-virus, but for situations like this video it make sense.
Very interesting tool you mention there, thanks!
I really love how Sci-fi that VAIO looks, it looks like when a character is hacking stuff on a building or something they would bring that 😅
I wish Windows phone was half as good as you make it look. It's all I really wanted in a phone, tbh. And you're showing, like, a glimpse into what we could have had.
same, I honestly would prefer having a Windows phone like he showed wiht SMS and phone, over Android, because I just want a mini computer not a "app storage device that can't be touched for my security reason"
I really need to try this on my Lumia. The last hope to make it borderline usable and not slower than molasses.
Dude, it's literally running at like 5fps on the Lumia doing nothing.... I want this too but it aint good enough to be used..
@@oscarsh2909 So leaving it lying in a drawer doing nothing, thats a better use of the phone?
@@UnknownObservers Better use of your mind as well
I find old x86 devices good for specific light linux or windows uses, or as terminals, have heavy tasks run on another device over the local network.
Damned that voice is so smooth!
:)
Intel had a few 64 bit CPUs before the Core 2, a couple of Xeons and Pentium 4s. They were terrible and fell behind a Core 2 running at a fraction of the clockspeed. There were a ton of chipset limitations and a 32 bit memory controller (from what I remember) on some early chipsets that limited early Core 2 CPUs to 4 GB or less of RAM despite being technically compatible with more. It was a strange time. You'd find IDE and SATA on the same board and tons of crossover options to maintain backwards compatibility with older standards.
Great video - and love your persistance. Have you tried Tiny11 on iPad Pro M1 with UTM?
It'd be nice if you could make a guide to installing Windows XP to the VAIO, while having no drivers/etc. issues. I'm getting tempted to buy one of those lol, but I'm not using Vista ever again. In fact, it'd be nice if you could do a 3DMark and other benchmark comparisons between XP vs Vista (the default OS) on this device. I'm fairly sure XP demolishes the default OS.
So happy people are making use of the one windows phones. If someone can make decent apps work and texts I think I’ll go back to them with tiny 11
The lumia is really cool!
i like running windows on tiny machines.. lumia 950xl was one of my favorites
I got myself a 950 for this and I always wanted one. Just had a look and looks like sd card booting is currently being worked on so I think I am gonna wait for that.
Speaking of emulation, windows' subsystem (both linux and android on github) might be an amazing try for these old tiny devices
Very interesting!
interesting as always
I'm barely at the beginning of the video, and it sounds great already ! If i ever need to reinstall windows on my phone I'll use tiny 11
This is very cool
The first 64-bit consumer cpu by Intel was Intel Pentium 4 661 or 670.
That is true, thanks. I could have said the Core2Solo was the first popular mainstream CPU to be more accurate.
@@JanusCycleOK
I’ve been wanting to play around with tiny 11. Also I love them vaio’s.
My wife had a x86 tablet running android many years ago. It was really snappy and had excellent battery life (almost 10 hours). But with the then following version of android x86 support was removed (or at least made unavalible) for that tablet. It would be quite fun to se windows on something like that.
Cool video
I've had good success installing Tiny 10 in a windows to go format, that way you install it directly to the storage drive using a faster computer, I don't run it on anything quite this old, but the advantage is, if the storage media you're using is removable, you can just take the drive out and move it to the next computer. Start up takes a moment, but then it works without a hitch.
Intriguing, I've never tries Windows to go.
@@JanusCycleIt works ok for me, but I realised after making this comment I'm on slightly better hardware than what you're displaying here. But might still be worth a shot, skips the entire windows set up part, only thing you have to do is set a password the first time you use it, or next time you boot you'll be locked out for some reason.
This is like therapy for me
Glad you are getting into it :)
I tried Tiny11 on my Steam Deck on an external SSD and it's been as flawless as Windows on the Deck gets. Great little OS if you want your resources free for shenanigans.
Wow, Tiny 11 on tiny devices makes tiny bot net soldiers lol ;)
even stock win 11 fits within about 6GB if you enagle compactos feature and disable space allocation and such (by default windows cuts out a chunck of space supposedly for updates)
Id recommend using a windows 11 Iso from ghost as its more structured out features and tweaks wise and seems to offer the best performance on lower spec hardware.
its nice someone 0ut there cares about this and is keeping it alive. i wish reactOS woiuld catch up already so we could revive our old beloved mini pcs. i love this little computer, used it for college with a stripped down version of windows 7. i much prefer the oqo model 02. its what i always wanted and i want one with a 12th gen intel core or the new chinese via centaur generation cores but sadly can't just transplant its guts and swap. i would still use this stuff if everything wasn't so incompatible with current gen stuff. they make amazing office PCs and the GPD win series doesn't capture the pocketable, fancy keyboard nicheness utilitarianess this retro stuff has. i loved the viao UX series, biggest reason was you could install Chell graphics driver mod and play GTA San Andreas on the go....friggin loved that. but nowadays the GPD win series just blows that away really great for music, never getting rid of my UX50 lol
sorry for my rants. love this stuff :D
Go for it, I enjoy reading comments :)
Interesting... I've got a pair of Lumia 650s here, neither doing anything useful. I wonder if I can make those work? I know they're a bit smaller than the 950XL. Also, I wonder if it'll work on other ARM based kit, like older tablets?
New to channel. Sub earned! Would love to see you test game emulators on these devices. Will boost views ten fold. "Running Nintendo 64 emulator on tiny device using windows" everytime you do this on a phone or old pc run emus. That will bring the crowd.
Thank you. I do love retro gaming and emulating. I hope to have more gaming style videos soon.
Hi, Janus! I watched the video and i thought that it would be pretty interesting to install the following systems on the VAIO: 1. Windows 8.1 Embedded Industry Pro or maybe Windows 8.1 RT3 (For Surface RT) and maybe even Windows 8.0 build 9200/8400. 2. Windows 10X (Find a tutorial how to install) 3. Android x86_64.
Some great suggestions there. I've never used Windows 8(.1) and always been curious.
@@JanusCycle I've been using Windows 8 for quite a long time, I'm just curious how would it act on devices like this. It might actually be a lot usable with the full screen start menu and the gestures. Plus embedded industry pro is intended for use in low-end pc's. Windows 10X is just like ChromeOS(Would like to see it on vaio too) but capable of running Desktop/UWP apps, and intended for the tablet pc's, but it requires Microsoft Account, and there's just no way around. Thx for the reply!
@@JanusCycle maybe it would be cool to see Windows Embedded Standard 8 and Windows Embedded Compact 2013 with custom shell. Windows 10 IoT would be cool to see too. Out of all this OSes i haven't installed only compact 2013, but if windows 11 has installed, why wouldn't it?
awesome
this would run Ubuntu with LXDE or AntiX just fine! Would love to see a video of that, though, im sure you don't want to wipe the drive and have to reinstall later lol
I like the form factor of the vaio a lot. I think i'd try to fit one of the new single board pc's inside the shell, it would take some work to wire the controls though. actually it would be great if someone could upload a full scan as a 3d file to Grabcad. That way i could 3d print a close recreation and install something way more modern inside.
Thanks!
This will help with making even better videos in the future, thank you.
Ghost Spectre 11 would be a good experiment to try.
@Janus Cycle Hello, kindly request for Sony Ericsson Satio modification video, thank you.
Were you unable to find the graphics driver for the VAIO? I'm sure graphics drivers made for Vista x64 or 7 x64 would work on Tiny11, or even the full fat version of Windows 11.
James, I’m not sure on your background in IT but I’d love to see an old Operating System joined to a “new” MDM like Intune. If you see this and think it would be an interesting idea please let me know, I’m a Microsoft Intune consultant myself and think it *could* be possible
I wish Sony would remake the Vaio portable. I wanted one of those for so long back in 2006.
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It was like it was made for this phone!
Windows 11 setup: Everything's gonna be alright baby. Just getting things ready for you by the way your a winner.
dusted off my old 950's , just waiting on another charger to try this tiny11 arm build on them
I hope it goes well :)
you can scale windows 11 on the lumia so that it is usable and mobile. but windows 10 makes more sense as it supports a fullscreen tablet mode, which makes a lot more sense for a smartphone.
sir stop making awesome videos!
#Janus Cycle... Fab Video. Greetings from Perth WA. I have a Dell Latitude ST 10" tablet. It is a rebadged Computer Motion CL900 with a z270 (z260) single core atom x86 1.5ghz CPU and 2Gb ddr2 ram. I have just got Win 7 SP1 going on it but as it is x86 only, my options are limited. W11 is x64 only. Any thoughts on an OS upgrades? It uses an mSata and I have a few of those up to 1tb. I managed to get the drivers to get it to windows 8. Apparently the last version of W10 it can run is 1607. the 1st anniversary of W10. The Tablet has some great features which I don't want to lose. EG Pen, handwriting recognition, etc. Cheers Mate - David
You could try a lite version of a later Windows 10 build. You might have to bypass restrictions like I did installing Windows in this video. But Windows 7 is also great, I hope to downgrade an old Windows 8 tablet to 7 soon :)
@@JanusCycle G'Day and thanks so much for replying! After a week of trying to get windows update to work I error code 80072EFE... I've tried every trick in the book to no avail. I'm at the point of your suggestion of VS-W10 , but Drivers stopped at Win 8 (Those need reg hacks to work) or going *nix. Honestly I'm at the point of donating it. All that said, I loved your video and subscribed. Thank you for making such great content ! - David (Perth WA)
Hi can you do a video with ghost spectre 11?
Test Windows 11 Ghost Spectre! A massive improvement in low level devices performance! Maybe a SteamOS or Arch on ARM?
I gotta try this ISO image on my HP Mini 210.
How small can Tiny 11 be? Can you make an iso of 700MB so that it fits on a single CD?
3:26 is that the real music that plays in the setup its relaxing
Look what you did. I want buy a lumia 950 now.
This makes me consider not throwing out my old Lumia 950 to give this a try once
I would totally switch from android if I could get a stable Windows on a phone, but I would need the texts to work. This is amazing though!