Start to Finish!! Sawing a 34 inch diameter log

2023 ж. 26 Қыр.
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In todays video! I’ll cut another massive log and speed up the footage. If you haven’t already, please like the video and subscribe to the channel

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  • It's so impressive, I won't get tired of watching it over and over again

    @MrTechss@MrTechss2 күн бұрын
  • Awesome. Never a seen a mill that cuts and edges at the same time. Thanks for sharing!

    @mikecrockett3669@mikecrockett36697 ай бұрын
    • No problem!! Thank you for commenting!

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill7 ай бұрын
  • The backbone of any industrial operation - these heavy-duty machines excel.

    @swagtech_@swagtech_2 ай бұрын
  • I don’t know what’s more impressive the log flipper or that horizontal laser guided gang head. Amazing! Thanks for sharing!

    @410Gregj@410Gregj6 ай бұрын
  • Very impressive and fast with the two vertical and two horizontal saw blades well done, thank you for shearing ❤

    @Svendus@Svendus2 ай бұрын
  • Sawing a 34-inch diameter log from start to finish is an impressive feat that truly showcases the power and precision of modern sawing techniques!

    @D-EagleMachines-on6dg@D-EagleMachines-on6dgАй бұрын
    • You should watch some of my more recent uploads!

      @Helmsburgsawmill@HelmsburgsawmillАй бұрын
  • Awesome job👍👍👍

    @cjmaslowski1112@cjmaslowski1112Ай бұрын
  • No waste of wood on this setup.👍

    @VintageForYou@VintageForYou2 ай бұрын
    • Did you not see how much was wasted every time he flipped the log?

      @sjv6598@sjv65982 ай бұрын
  • I ran a Head-rig like that for 15 years, I really miss it . 56'' bottom saw 38'' top saw .I would have appreciated those two edger saws , and my rig was left hand feed ,log turner and infeed deck on the right . Thanks for the memories .

    @thomaswhite3831@thomaswhite38317 ай бұрын
    • Thank you for the comment! Please share the videos with others that you know would appreciate them!

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill7 ай бұрын
  • Being a wood carver, watching this video was almost like a lullaby...Wood is peaceful

    @johnduffy6546@johnduffy6546Ай бұрын
    • Check out my newer uploads!

      @Helmsburgsawmill@HelmsburgsawmillАй бұрын
  • that's a brilliant set-up

    @MichielVanKets@MichielVanKets2 ай бұрын
  • I have logged in the field and worked almost every machine in a sawmill. I really appreciate it. The smells, the beauty of the wood. If I were still able to I would still be working with it.

    @Chessplayer_1@Chessplayer_16 ай бұрын
    • I’m 28, and it’s the only thing I’ve ever done. There’s something different about the work that other people could never understand

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
  • Awesome log, love the vertical edger.

    @arkansas1336@arkansas13367 ай бұрын
  • Beautiful log, my friend. I love watching it. Keep save and have a blessed day 🥰🥰🥰

    @Sawmillers@Sawmillers6 ай бұрын
  • Impressive sawing. I no longer encounter sawing techniques like this. But everything is operated automatically in one line. Good job, keep up this impressive technique 👍👍👍

    @rajabalok4130@rajabalok41306 ай бұрын
    • Thank you! I appreciate that

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
  • thank you i find these videos so interesting and in a funny way soothing seeing this in real life is on my lifetime bucket list 👍👍

    @miketjaden-thompson8378@miketjaden-thompson83786 ай бұрын
    • Come to Helmsburg Indiana and watch in person!

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
  • White oak is Supreme wood. Good for lining the bed of say an old Ford or Chevy truck. Imagine a custom home built from white oak 4x4's. Far too costly.

    @alanstrong55@alanstrong55Ай бұрын
  • That was kinda cool. Sawed and edged in one pass so no extra handling at the edger. Thumbs up and I'm going to go schedule a couple more vids at yer channel.

    @had2galsinthebooth@had2galsinthebooth7 ай бұрын
  • Man o man that mill is fast...Great video!

    @johnschuster9192@johnschuster91926 ай бұрын
    • Thank you!! And I wasn’t trying to make it seem like that was actual speed. But this one is speed up so viewers don’t get bored! It apparently worked. But if you go back on the channel, you’ll see plenty normal speed!

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
  • Seems some people forget that the lumber cut here will go thru more steps before being finished. Its rough sawn lumber like this. I love the blade cut marks in the wood comparde to bandsaw cutting.

    @gmyers4366@gmyers43666 ай бұрын
    • Thank you! Good followers and people that truly understand the industry leave good comments like this! And I’ve always thought the same about the sawmarks!! Bandsaw marks are generic. And every one of those 4/4 boards is going to get finished out at 13/16’s inches. I’m glad you understand that.

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
  • Outstanding video!

    @walterlamb4756@walterlamb47563 ай бұрын
  • Impressive machinery!

    @jamescampbell7780@jamescampbell77805 ай бұрын
  • Great job of sawing

    @wilmamcdermott3065@wilmamcdermott30653 ай бұрын
  • hi there nice sawmill , good sawing john

    @fricknjeep@fricknjeep5 ай бұрын
  • Amazing 4 blades!

    @scottmattoon9054@scottmattoon90547 ай бұрын
  • Good work men.

    @SlightlyRottenCarving@SlightlyRottenCarving3 ай бұрын
  • Four Blades! Thats impressing..

    @MrBoehol@MrBoehol6 ай бұрын
  • WONDERFUL ❤❤❤

    @nadeemmustafa6450@nadeemmustafa64505 ай бұрын
  • Awesome!!

    @bryanbradford2742@bryanbradford27427 ай бұрын
  • ❤I think it would be be great if you could shoot a Video from the front or the side where you load the timber logs so we can see the electric motors for the horizontal blades cutting the rims of the planks, many of our friends here do not understand how it works ❓

    @Svendus@Svendus2 ай бұрын
  • Outstanding!

    @walterlamb4756@walterlamb47567 ай бұрын
    • Thank you!! I’m going to upload a wide variety of content!

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill7 ай бұрын
  • Nice rig. Nice to see a sawyer who can cut for grade. Don't see very much of that on KZhead. Some pretty nice boards from a big ugly. 👌

    @woodnewf3847@woodnewf38476 ай бұрын
    • A lot of people commenting don’t even realize this is a big ugly😂

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
  • Mesin pemotong kayu yang sangat luar biasa sobatku

    @predatorkayuchannel7760@predatorkayuchannel77602 ай бұрын
  • Amazing Video 8 full entertaining Minutes 👍👍🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰 BEST WISHES FROM PAKISTAN

    @nadeemmustafa6450@nadeemmustafa64506 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for the comment!! I want my videos seen all over the world!

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
    • @@Helmsburgsawmill if you go through all the comments you will find that multiple Nationalities are watching your channel ❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍🇵🇰🇵🇰 WISH YOU BEST OF LUCK FROM PAKISTAN

      @nadeemmustafa6450@nadeemmustafa64506 ай бұрын
    • Salam aliakum from Helmsburg

      @user-fh4xe9oh8h@user-fh4xe9oh8h5 ай бұрын
  • Very nice saw

    @robintaylor-mockingeemill8223@robintaylor-mockingeemill82237 ай бұрын
    • Deseo aumentar producción con la inclusión de Sierras de discos de 100 a 110 Cms diámetro.enviarme. Precios .gracias.

      @jesuseliasmarcanomartinez7875@jesuseliasmarcanomartinez78757 ай бұрын
  • Amazing ❤👍🙏

    @Angkertvg@Angkertvg6 ай бұрын
  • Nice sawing

    @sawmilltechnology@sawmilltechnology6 ай бұрын
  • Top saw edger all in one fast production no edger no resaw

    @wilmamcdermott3065@wilmamcdermott30653 ай бұрын
  • I need one of this machine desperately

    @atonshiu3667@atonshiu36676 ай бұрын
  • Really impressive. How much was that piece of timber worth, how much is it likely to fetch when sold?

    @glencoe8251@glencoe82517 ай бұрын
  • Nice👍👍👍

    @Kitri-qp4qt@Kitri-qp4qt5 ай бұрын
  • I get what you're saying about the top /bottom saw alignment being difficult to get perfect. Always wondered why I see a step on wide lumber. Kind of seemed like it should have been planed out.

    @d6c10k4@d6c10k47 ай бұрын
    • It got sent to the grade lumber outlet. They run every board through sanders and planers. When we do grade lumber, we just get the logs turned into boards. Now we have milling equipment for doing smaller projects

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill7 ай бұрын
  • I like that you have many options on that mill

    @haroldcraver9697@haroldcraver96976 ай бұрын
  • Que máquina fantástica!!!! Parabéns, abraços de Portugal

    @jaimemartins8175@jaimemartins81756 ай бұрын
    • Thank you!! Share it with your friends!

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
  • This looks like a great setup for optimizing yields! My mother was born in Brown county and I have family in Lawrence county.

    @rogerhodges7656@rogerhodges76566 ай бұрын
  • Some of those slab off pieces dried for about 5 months will make some good cooking wood

    @williamjones6053@williamjones60536 ай бұрын
  • Love your videos! What kind of sawmill do you have? Thank you!

    @michaelm3881@michaelm38816 ай бұрын
    • This is a Forrest All mill

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
  • Nice job. looks like tooth alignment maybe , irregular saw pattern on that bottom saw.

    @rammy630@rammy6307 ай бұрын
    • Oh I assure my guide pins are always correctly aligned and I keep my teeth filed straight across. Where the bottom of the saw enters is correct. But our motor is larger than a typical saw. And due to the increased rpms, it likes to lean in a little bit when the saw is buried. If my feed rate was quicker it would do it even worse. I’ll make a video on it some time. But when you see cuts that don’t look aligned with the bottom and tops saws, it’s not about alignment. When you catch them running together under different circumstances, the alignments are different all the time. The saws behave differently with different species, widths, lengths, which end of the log is facing the saw when it’s put on, etc.

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill7 ай бұрын
    • Yes I understand what your saying about the saw wanting to cut in like that , What I meant was the cut pattern on the bottom saw looks very rough like a few of the saw teeth are mis aligned that is all . Hard to see from a video. It dose look like you have plenty of power . Years ago when I used to saw white oak all we had was a 401ci. Case diesel power unit with a 52`` saw ,it did good but you had to feed pretty slow with the old Lane mill. @@Helmsburgsawmill

      @rammy630@rammy6307 ай бұрын
  • Love your videos. . It is fascinating to see both the vertical and horizontal blades cut a finished product in one pass. I noticed what looks like saw marks on the boards, is that typical of a vertical circular saw blade cut ? And is their some computer tech involved in adjusting the blades or is done manually ?

    @petervoyt24@petervoyt245 ай бұрын
    • Yes the circular marks on the log and the boards are typical. As the teeth life go down the marks become less aggressive. As you could imagine, as you file a tooth, it gets narrower, and cuts less aggressively over the course of its life

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill5 ай бұрын
  • I dream of having a saw like this someday

    @jasonhurless453@jasonhurless4536 ай бұрын
  • Cool video love watching you I noticed on this video the Topsaw is not aligned with the bottom. Do you use shims to line that up?

    @joestone2068@joestone20683 ай бұрын
    • So it may appear that way! This is an older video. The saws are always aligned and shims are never used! However, when that bottom saw is sharp, the top of the blade leans inward. And the tip of the bottom saw is getting pushed out. This causes an overlap. However, you’ll find in the video I uploaded earlier on that big poplar, that over lap is barely noticeable;)

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill3 ай бұрын
  • Luar biasa keren banget salam dari Indonesia

    @AnySawTVG@AnySawTVGАй бұрын
  • Es un lujo de máquinas

    @manuelramirezgarcia1337@manuelramirezgarcia13377 ай бұрын
  • 8:36 ini mesin tercanggih yang pernah saya tonton😮

    @tangan_robot@tangan_robot2 ай бұрын
  • Tree(s): How dare are you!

    @gwater12345@gwater123456 ай бұрын
  • Are you shaving to account for log tension/movement or it sitting imperfectly on the carriage?

    @firecaptaintom@firecaptaintom4 ай бұрын
    • I shave for log tension but that isn’t my reason in this case! Anytime I flip a log to another side I have to re-establish my cut. It’s all manual. This is an unconventionally large log, and normally I’m not flipping them that many times. Usually I never come back to a side

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill4 ай бұрын
  • Nice👍🙋🙋🙋🙋

    @jatimalangtv8161@jatimalangtv81617 ай бұрын
  • Big beautiful log that could have yielded some nice wide quarter saw boards🙄

    @leinie6683@leinie66832 ай бұрын
    • Nah bud. That white oak wasn’t nice enough to make quarter sawn boards in these parts. That was a tip log

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill2 ай бұрын
  • What is name of this sawmill? it looks really good!

    @kratochvildominik9020@kratochvildominik90207 ай бұрын
    • The Helmsburg Sawmill! Please subscribe to the channel. We’re located in central Indiana and sell our lumber and material to the public.

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill7 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for the support!! I have many other videos, including ones like this one, on my channel! Please subscribe

    @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
  • Could you do a video explaining the quarter sawn process?

    @erics2506@erics25065 ай бұрын
    • I would sir but unfortunately I can only do flat cut. I can’t quarter the logs because the edger box won’t allow the clearance. However I can tell you flat cut has a different grain compared to quarter sawn

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill5 ай бұрын
    • How bout this? I get enough subs, and I can get enough viewership. I can see about getting a little quarter sawn mill made

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill5 ай бұрын
    • Or a big one🤷

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill5 ай бұрын
    • @@HelmsburgsawmillDone subscribed for more thank you

      @erics2506@erics25065 ай бұрын
  • great to some one milling some real logs!! keep it up,AAA

    @ThePR0S1AY3R@ThePR0S1AY3R6 ай бұрын
    • Thank you!! I’ll saw any log that can get loaded onto that carriage!

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
  • Big ole log stressing out I reckon.

    @beebop9808@beebop98083 ай бұрын
  • what brand of mill you run dont see many with a top saw anymore

    @cedricgates9976@cedricgates99767 ай бұрын
    • This is a Forest All mill

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
    • They don’t make them anymore

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
  • where did the tree come from, old growth forest?

    @mattfinish-kg3bl@mattfinish-kg3bl6 ай бұрын
    • Correct! It came from the heart of Brown County Indiana. That was a top log. We sold the first 25’ of it to a veneer buyer. Brown County Indiana grows some of the best White Oak in the world

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
  • Mantap 👍👍👍👍

    @Kitri-qp4qt@Kitri-qp4qt6 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for sharing! Why do you sometimes stop the log during sawing and move it backwards? As a week-end woodworker i've always heard not to do this on my table saw for safety reasons. No safety issue or risk of damage on your hardware ? I guess nope and i'm curious to hear from you 😊

    @pierrechalopin5222@pierrechalopin52226 ай бұрын
  • Namaha

    @Ledingsangma@Ledingsangma5 ай бұрын
  • Mesin pemotong kayu yang sangat canggih

    @pekerja27@pekerja276 ай бұрын
  • those logs look naked, do you run them through a debarker?

    @rollierl@rollierl6 ай бұрын
    • We sure do! I don’t see how people can stand sawing logs that still have the bark

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
    • At least for production sake

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
  • Proses penggergajian yang luar biasaa🎉🎉🎉

    @Sawmillwoodworking@Sawmillwoodworking7 ай бұрын
  • A bit of history regarding the life of tree age methotrexate of harvesting transporting weathering eould have turned a good film into a great film.

    @williampatrickfagan7590@williampatrickfagan75902 ай бұрын
  • The Horizontal saws badly need adjustment ... cutting too deep?

    @deksper@deksper7 ай бұрын
    • The guide pins are set where they should be. The adjustment doesn’t help with the top of the saw. And if it’s sharp, the teeth grab and pull the top of the saw deeper into the log. If I would’ve went faster, it would’ve been even worse. You can’t really avoid it with exceptionally big logs

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill7 ай бұрын
  • Soy ing forestal propietario de Aserradero pero necesito un aserradero de discos del diametro 100 a110 cms de diametro para aserrar rolas de diámetros grandes Agradezcole informacion sobre precio.ubicado en ZIMCA zona industrial matufin.manzana 38.maturin Venezuela.gracias.

    @jesuseliasmarcanomartinez7875@jesuseliasmarcanomartinez78757 ай бұрын
  • @dogwedl1167@dogwedl11677 ай бұрын
  • until the log is square they waste a lot of wood, hope they put those pieces in a chipper and making wood pellets or something useful

    @ericp3573@ericp35736 ай бұрын
    • It's not waste, its required to get boards from lumber.

      @EFCasual@EFCasual6 ай бұрын
    • While getting it square they are cutting planks off of the sides when they can.

      @TexasP00nTappa@TexasP00nTappa6 ай бұрын
  • kayusuper manta salam jumpa lur

    @Inal123-jg7tj@Inal123-jg7tj2 ай бұрын
  • sawed my Landoll trailer floor!

    @generationsauto8004@generationsauto80046 ай бұрын
    • And how long ago? It could have been gramps who sawed it.

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
    • How’s it holding up?!

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
  • Why must you shave it, after each time you flip it?

    @ShannonFreng@ShannonFreng3 ай бұрын
    • Hey bud. Go watch my recent upload!

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill3 ай бұрын
    • It will answer your question

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill3 ай бұрын
    • @@HelmsburgsawmillI just did. I understand now, thanks.

      @ShannonFreng@ShannonFreng3 ай бұрын
  • Mohon info dimana bisa beli sawmill seperti ini

    @h_3821@h_38217 ай бұрын
    • They unfortunately don’t make them anymore

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill6 ай бұрын
  • Why is it chattering on the wood so much. Lots of ripples in the cuts.

    @jameschandler2776@jameschandler27767 ай бұрын
  • Did you rock the bottom saw ? My goodness that is a rough cut . Going to take a lot of planer or sander work to smooth those boards

    @grazynazambeanie5963@grazynazambeanie59632 ай бұрын
    • 🤣🤣😭😭

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill2 ай бұрын
  • selamat malam teman

    @cah_sawmill@cah_sawmill7 ай бұрын
  • To rough of cut for me

    @randywells4674@randywells46747 ай бұрын
    • Looks like someone took a ax and hacked it

      @Cutting-with-Paul@Cutting-with-Paul7 ай бұрын
    • @@Cutting-with-Paul an axe vs a axe

      @vashon100@vashon1006 ай бұрын
    • Lol ... thats the important think for you . Its not my first language. But yes ...have some dislikes in return .

      @Cutting-with-Paul@Cutting-with-Paul6 ай бұрын
  • ❤️💪👍💰🦘🇦🇺🍀

    @jesstill7833@jesstill78335 ай бұрын
  • This company should spend some bucks and invest in a scanner, computer and computerized setworks. then the backstand will always zero out with better grade recovery. I worked in sawmills in British Columbia all my working life and it's amazing what technology can do.

    @johnmcgarvie4061@johnmcgarvie40617 ай бұрын
    • Big white oak in British Columbia?

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill7 ай бұрын
    • In British Columbia grade recovery comes from Douglas Fir, Hemlock and western Red Cedar.

      @johnmcgarvie4061@johnmcgarvie40617 ай бұрын
    • Ya that’s what I thought. Sawing soft woods is a completely different thing vs sawing hardwoods. Ask anyone who’s sawn big white oak, how a bandmill does😂

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill7 ай бұрын
    • Máy móc sẽ hỗ trợ con người đạt hiệu quả cao hơn

      @wzrainforestsounds@wzrainforestsounds5 ай бұрын
    • As to Initial comment - All that fancy computer stuff cost lots of money! You going to buy it for them? Thought not!

      @bogus_not_me@bogus_not_me2 ай бұрын
  • The alignment of the top saw to bottom saw looks way off

    @69yenko65@69yenko655 ай бұрын
    • Go read some of my comments about saw alignment. You see this comment on a lot of sawmill videos with too saws. It’s has nothing to do with saw alignment.

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill5 ай бұрын
  • A lot of dollars down the hole with that rig

    @grazynazambeanie5963@grazynazambeanie59632 ай бұрын
  • If you did your math correct you wouldn't need to shave it

    @cybaker6369@cybaker63697 ай бұрын
    • Yes, but sometimes it helps to re index and true the cut. He's "cutting to grade". That's why all the flipping.

      @rsgpartsdivision@rsgpartsdivision7 ай бұрын
    • Thank you!! And I only kept flipping it because it was so big. As cool as it is to make big wide boards, I’d much prefer to flip it a couple of times so my outer boards can be smaller

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill7 ай бұрын
    • Stress comes out of the log as it is opened up and the cant changes shape , the skim cut is to square up the cant so the boards are all close to the same thickness .

      @robintaylor-mockingeemill8223@robintaylor-mockingeemill82237 ай бұрын
    • Thank you fellas! We’ve been in business for over 50 years😂 not by making KZhead videos haha. Both of your responses are completely accurate! Also. The tension releases you’re speaking of is even greater on the longer stuff! And if I have a block made, and for some reason I have to shut everything off and fire back up with an incomplete log, even if I don’t see a shift, I’ll still re shave it. And not even consider listening to any uniformed comments. Feel free to respectfully counter act any un-educated comments fellas. It’s hard to explain it to every person

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill7 ай бұрын
    • And yes! I’m trying to take the best boards from each side to get a better grade! It’s no secret this is a lower quality log. It’s just large. The first 25’ of this tree was sold to a veneer buyer

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill7 ай бұрын
  • Man get someone in to fix your bottom saw . That's a terrible finish

    @grazynazambeanie5963@grazynazambeanie59632 ай бұрын
    • Go check out my cabin if you think it makes a terrible finish😂 And also I’m assuming your ignorant to the fact that every board we sell as grade lumber, goes through a refining process🤣🤣 The ones who watch my channel know that’s not finished

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill2 ай бұрын
  • To much waste ... cut is not precise

    @Cutting-with-Paul@Cutting-with-Paul7 ай бұрын
    • Go read the other comments

      @Helmsburgsawmill@Helmsburgsawmill7 ай бұрын
    • @@Helmsburgsawmill why ? I know how a mill works ... this is meant for a diferent result .... that log would be much happyer with a classic bamd saw mill . Like for example M. Cremona ...

      @Cutting-with-Paul@Cutting-with-Paul7 ай бұрын
    • @@Cutting-with-Paul happier vs happyer

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