The execution of Lisa Montgomery - BBC News
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Lisa Montgomery was the first woman to be executed by the federal government in America for nearly 70 years.
The 52-year-old strangled pregnant 23-year-old Bobbie Jo Stinnett, before cutting out and kidnapping her baby in Missouri in 2004. The child survived and was returned to Stinnett's family.
Her lawyers argued that she had been born brain-damaged and was too mentally ill to be executed. Family members say that as a child she was routinely sexually and physically abused by her father, and trafficked by her mother.
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How about a documentary on the victim's life? She's the one who deserves to be remembered.
The most sensible comment on here.
I imagine that would be dreadfully boring and uninteresting to watch.
@@kissmeifly You might be surprised
@@thorgrootsweetrabbit2244 maybe, but in general murderers are interesting, murder victims aren't interesting apart from the fact that they got murdered.
@@kissmeifly Sounds very cold, but it’s true.
Her bad childhood doesn't give her an excuse to kill another woman and take her baby.
No but she is obviously out of her mind, she is not wired all well.
The research and study into why people commit heinous crimes. Thousands of 'Ordinary men and women" under the Nazi rule did the vilest and disgusting evil deeds.
Does not excuse killing someone. They wont be useing our tax dollars on her anymore.
@@Lisa-hn3hz well if it’s tax dollars your worried about, it’s cheaper to lock people up than execute them.
They could have sought help surely from childrens servises
I hope the child she so cruelly stole is doing well and living a happy life.
According to some articles written at the time of her execution, the brother of her father, Zeb, who brought her up after Bobbie Jo's murder (and I guess, technically her brief abduction) said she's doing well and Zeb was raising her well. He also said that she found closure in her execution in 2020, when I guess she would've been 15 or 16. I don't get why when adoption (and from birth) is an option, Lisa Montgomery ever chose to go the incredibly horrific route she did. I also just don't understand, in the first place, how you could possibly do that not just to another human being, but then to their child, while somehow deluding yourself that you can ever be its loving or caring mother after having done so. It's mind boggling, truly.
Thank God, it appears that is the case. Beautiful little girl.
@@JET7C0because Lisa wanted to prove to people that she could have kids still. She was forced to get her tubes tied by her ex-husband/stepbrother and her mother. She loved all the attention she had received while she was pregnant..
Sadly, she's grown up without her mum.
Tori Jo is happy and healthy with her dad! I watched a video earlier!
She researched, planned and executed her deed. Not the action of a mentally impaired person. And not every abused child becomes a murderer!
I’m sure her victim couldn’t comprehend her own death either.
Exactly my first thought at that statement. She can't comprehend her own death sentence but sure as hell understood how to preplan killing a woman and cutting her baby out.
BINGO. I have to say that The BBC really sucks.
@@andrewvida3829 What do you expect from an institution who enabled Jimmy Saville for 30 years then killed the story that would have revealed to the world who he was because they thought it offensive due to it coming out a few weeks after he died.
this has nothing to do with Trump ? BBC don't belong here
Don't make these two women equal. One is an innocent expectant mother the other one is an evil criminal.
We all understand that she had a miserable life, but this doesn’t give her the license to destroy other people’s lives.
Screw her. She is not the victim.
@@terrykrall she is A victim and A perpetrator
No one has the right to kill no one. Therefore death penalty is not the solution. There will be lots of other Lisas.
@@ms8165 ... oh, brother...
@@terrykrall Sister.
I would rather remember the victim than the perpetrator of this most heinous and barbaric crime.
Literally every time someone tries to argue against the death penalty, someone like THIS comes along to prove that in some cases, it's needed. I remember one of the detectives saying he could still see Bobby's blood in Lisa's fingernails when he was arresting her, and that sticks with me. She didn't even bother to wash the blood off her hands before she took the baby home.
All I can think of is the poor mamma that never got to know her daughter and the daughter that had to grow up without her mamma. I think of a husband deprived from a loving wife and parents who lost their daughter.
When the friend says the execution will be like watching a 5 yr old who can't understand adult situations...newsflash lady 5 yr olds aren't on the internet researching c-sections when planning a murder.
Exactly. Let alone have the competence to carry it out
Nailed it.
Yet 5 year olds still know that just bc they want a babydoll dont mean they can just steal it.
nailed it!!
@earth bound you missed the point she’s deserves to be alive so we can talk to her and learn from her. Everyone wants to kill her so we can stop talking about abuse.
My thoughts and prayers are with the victims family.
It is very disturbing that there are people who oppose the death penalty even in cases such as this. Thank God her baby survived.
Umm its peoples opinions if you have a problem its your problem
Sick of seeing excuses made when it's a woman who's killed someone. No one seems to be thinking of the woman who was murdered!
I think every one agrees the murder was horrible. However, it's been shown over and over that the threat of the death penalty does not reduce murder rates. Unless someone is hoping for death by cop, most murderers, most prisoners even, think they will get away with it. The penalty doesn't matter because they aren't planning to get caught. And, in fact, there is a 30 - 40% chance that a murderer will remain free, because so many go unsolved. All the death penalty does is affirm that killing is ok if you have a good enough reason and the power to do it, it does not lead to a more peaceful society.
@@psw4763 Look, it would take 5 minutes of research to confirm what I said. I'm not making up the numbers, they're confirmed over and over, the unsolved murder rate, the murder rate in countries with capitol punishment, what do you disagree with?
@@TheKim369 I/m against the death penalty; that doesn't make the documentary/news piece's part on her any less invalid
@@DMG118 Hooray! Thanks, and sorry for assuming otherwise.
@@TheKim369 no it gives peace to the family. My cousin was murdered in a horrific way. My aunt and uncle were mever the same after it. Once you go through that then you might understand the value of the death penalty. Murders will happen no matter what so what dows it matter if the death penalty makes killers think twice, its about closure and real justice for what the did to the victim and the family who has to live with that knowledge.
R.I.P. 🕊Bobbie Jo Stinnett 🕊
ALSO R.I.P Lisa Montgomery
@@luvlysarah6602 *good riddance sick and twisted killer. Not everyone will miss the fact that it is dead now, how dare you jump into a thread respecting Bobbie's memory with her sick and twisted killer's name. Worse than that, you expect everyone to respect that freak show. Absolutely not, start your own thread crying for the killer. We really don't care.
@@blahblaahh3004 I mean idrc abt Lisa but im just saying r.i.p Lisa but yes I do agree
RIP Bobbie Jo Stinnett
@@blahblaahh3004 you just told off a little kid. Keep in mind, the internet has ALL ages and intellectual levels.. go easy on people before freaking out like a loose cannon.
This story has always disturbed me deeply. How can anyone commit such a heinous act of selfishness & cruelty. I've cried for poor Bobby Jo & her child & her entire family. May her child thrive in life
Whatever may have been her past... What she did to that young woman is absolutely horrific...
So she doesn’t have the understanding for what’s going to happened to her but she’s good enough to learn and prep on how to rip out another women’s baby 🤔
Those are two completely different things
Being abused as a child is no excuse for hurting anyone ever. Or id be a damn murderer for some of the things I've been thru.
Just because you coped doesn’t mean everyone does, we are all different neurologically and that’s how she became. Let’s wipe out abuse and we won’t have to be judging who copes best with what they went through. I just can’t judge her as not her and didn’t live her life.
Yes, i agree with you...
Me too.
Nobody ever said it was an excuse. We all have to be held accountable. But we need more support and social services for families, mothers, and their children who are falling through the cracks. Families need counseling, jobs and mental and physical healthcare in order to raise well adjusted kids. Lisa Montgomery didn’t have any chance at all to live a normal life.
Exactly, my 17 years living at home with severe chronic abuse & neglect would make her life comparable to the Rockefellers!!! I would be a serial murderer! Then leave it to main stream media to make it about politics! NOPE it's called you take a life your life, YOURS is taken. PERIOD!. I could care less and she had mental breakdowns at the very end. Can you imagine how that poor woman felt when her life was being taken at the very end?
She wasn’t evil *or* broken, she was evil *and* broken. Both things can be true and usually are. Most abused people grow up content to harm themselves, some grow up to harm others- also both things that are true at the same time. One can feel for the victim and understand the perpetrator never stood a chance. I don’t know why people struggle with these things.
No she was just pure evil. Her mugshot says it all. I don't know if I agree that "most abused people grow up to harm themselves". I need to look up the statistics on that. But the whole "hurt people hurt people" attitude is heavily overused and a cop out at times.
She wasn’t as mad as they said she was. She meticulously had planned the murder and disguised herself as a dog buyer. Crazy people don’t plan! They act instinctively.
Pure evil
Despite the bleeding-heart narrator and her story, justice WAS served! My sympathy is with the innocent victim and her unborn child. and their family.
if it was wrong for her to kill, it is wrong for the state to kill. you can't have it both ways, dimwit.
@@frankmurray1549 there is nothing wrong with revenge
@@frankmurray1549 bleeding hearts for sociopaths and the dysgenic is why the West is increasingly devolving to 2nd and 3nd world living standard
@@frankmurray1549 " live in the west and I do not see any evidence of my home country becoming a 2nd or 3rd world country" you know what, I take that back, 2nd and 3rd world countries would actually kill pedos, rapists and murderers instead of stealing from tax payers to keep them in prisons s or, even worse, release them back into society "we are a civilised nation." what country is this you speak of?
It’s the BBC. I’m English, and we don’t listen to the BBC much. We all know they’re so far left, they are biased towards anyone right of them.
She may not have been able to comprehend her own death but she had no difficulty comprehending how to perform a murder and C-section. Yeah, THAT'S logical.
And knew that she needed to come up with a bullshit lie to cover what she did. If she didn't understand what she did was wrong, why lie about it? why not walk into the hospital and proudly proclaim that she'd just cut a baby out of another woman? No, these people are pathetic in their deluded pity of this monster. The only ones who have lost touch with reality are the ones who buy the whole I didn't understand what I was doing defense.
MorganDawn I love your commenting. Keep up the good work. Keep commenting and replying.❤
Right? She was a good actress I'll tell you that. Emmy award winning
exactly
@@cocokai9661 I say if the deluted people want people to escape the death penalty why don't they pay for full keep of these monsters.. as tax payer I vote why did it take 16 years . Should've been no more then 3 years to settle all appeals etc. Cops and detectives who worked this case should be set as example of to other law enforcement agencies to how to get it done
So social workers took the eight-year-old out of the house for parental neglect but not the four-year-old. That doesn't make sense.
Her ster sister was pulled out because she was hospitalized and they found that the kid has no custody. (They have the same father who abandoned them. They are staying with Lisa's mom) Her sister was taken out because of abandonment and not abuse.
Because it didn’t happen, they were never removed and they were never put into foster care
Sadly that happens all the time happened to my family back in the early 1990s they had more evidence on my older sister being abused so they took her out of the house she was 16 I was 5 years old they didn't have much evidence that I was being abused although I was being abused and was only five so I didn't tell them much so I was left unfortunately I was left until the age of 12 by then much abuse it happens and I have lifelong problems so yeah it's not uncommon for one sibling to get taken out of the home and the other to be left sick isn't it
Hollywood always makes mistakes like that in videos. When you deduct all the major mistakes in a story, it leaves a person to think if anything actually happened at all!
Every child deserves parents, not every parent deserves children.
As a victim myself, I know the pain, anger, depression, and feeling of loss of the victims (if they still survive) and their families. Evil criminals should be punished.
Incapable of understanding her own death yet capable of learning how to carve out a fetus? I find it hard to reconcile the two
What rational thinking person would have expected the fetus to survive?
@@concretelightbulb7082 Well it would depend on how far along the pregnancy the mother was. Most fetuses survive after 26 weeks and Lisa Montgomery knew that the victim was approximately 32 weeks along. The fetus did, in fact, survive. She is now 16 years old and lives with her father.
@@concretelightbulb7082 She did this with the aim of the fetus surviving as she could not have a child herself so tried to steal the woman she killed baby
@@bentaylor6995 Yeah, I remember the case when it was first reported and my initial reaction was no different than that of everyone cheering on her execution. If she were in fact abused to the degree expressed in the past few month's then I'm honestly not comfortable with the idea that justice has been served. If those who knew her and knew what she went through as a child sat back for years and said nothing until the date of execution drew near, then they failed her. If however her abuse was fabricated and she was just rotten... It just doesn't seem like cutting a fetus out of the womb seems like a very sane thing to do. A rational thinking person would adopt, no?
@@concretelightbulb7082 Well this was not a spur of the moment thing she did it was all planned out hours spent on google learning how to do this so she must have been thinking somewhat properly
The preparation this "5 year old" took to drive to a home, murder a pregnant woman, and remove her baby is more like something a heartless adult would/could do, not a 5 year old.
They ment she was a child at mind. A damaged child, that did an unexusible thing. But a person who doesn't grasp reality like a grown up does
@@KimVerhaaff didn't her man at the time suspect anything weird?
Lisa had a horrible childhood but she has to pay her depth to society. Thanks to her execution and arrest, Bobby Jo’s death wasn’t in complete vain. It protected us as a society from Lisa and set an example, that this is unacceptable and we protect our pregnant women and baby’s at all costs.
Yeah…I live with epilepsy because my grandmother beat me senseless. I have never harmed a soul. No excuse for this. None. My sympathy is for the victim and her daughter, and the family left behind.
OMG…what 👺granma 😢‼️
It’s honestly hard to get over anyone who would leave that woman to bleed out and be found by her mother. The amount of pain that radiates through this case is unbearable.
Its horrible what had happened to that pregnant women.
Ikr.Lisa should have tried therapy
@Sing Love so you are raped growing up which is horrible so that gives you the right to murder and cut out a baby. Unfornately girls are often raped but don’t grow up to commit such a horrible crime. Unforgivable. she did deserve death.
I reserve my pity for the victim, her daughter, and family.
Iag/ee
Same here Cindy.
I felt bad for the victim, her daughter and the rest of her Family. Lisa Montgomery had no remorse for what she did. She completely destroyed a family
I agree
She was Evil just because bad things happened to her that don't give her the right to Murder. The thing she should have done when she became a teenager was to tell on her Mother and Stepfather those were the one's she should have went after. She took a life and now her life was taken I need to stop before I really say something's I shouldn't.
The woman she murdered was incapable of understanding her own death too! Another lady pretending to want to buy a dog assaults her and kills her to cut her unborn baby out of her and raise it as her own. Who could understand their own death under those conditions? My sympathy is for the murdered mother of the baby
Her sister went through the same ordeal but never killed anyone many people have gone through this same ordeal but have never murdered anyone including my mum. My mum was not only molested and raped and tortured but as her private part tampered with ( child mutilation is callous and heinous crimes but all the criminals who committed these crimes are still alive and mum is the most caring loving person ever in our lives and she can't even harm a fly or cockroach. She prays for us and has helped a lot of traumatised children both in Angola duringlare sabvimbi bcoz he killed and raped many children with his soldiers exactly like what ISIS did in Syria, mum also helped traumatised children in Malawi, Namibia even in South Africa rhema bible school.
Very hard to read this wall of text with no punctuation.
Your mum is an Angel. Im so sorry what she has been through. Im sure she has helped many people. God bless her. You are lucky to have her.
So I have a question about the foster care system. One sister was raped and they removed her but left the other child in a dangerous environment? How was that even allowed? I'm trying to understand how that even sounded sensible to child services.
They weren't going to pay for the sister and jail the parents before this was then put on Lisa as a child in this horror show. The horror show is that the Red Republican State of Missouri wasn't going to pay for medical Rehab for the experience Lisa endured!!!! See what happens when benefits run out????
Lack of funding for social services. We don't prioritize mental health in the United States and when bad things happen due to that we murder the person. Or send them to jail for life. Or leave them on the streets to die.
Republican counties. This is why Democrats are right, and there needs to be more taxes for prevention, more for healthcare, and why life in the rural area is culturally destitute.
@@0IIIIII 1. Liberals and democrats prevent murderers and criminals from committing crime by state intervention. 2. Also liberals and democrats, people should be free to live their best life. free from state intervention.
@InsaneCommieDemocrat Ze Zed Zer They are pro choice, that's the difference.
Did Lisa's parents ever get into trouble for her abuse, and if her half sister was removed from the home for being abused why wasn't Lisa taken away
You know Jenny I don't even know. If you want to ask their family her husband's name is Kevin Montgomery. He lives in Melvern Kansas. You know it's hard for me to talk about Lisa after all these years because I lost my family to my step father who murdered my mom and 2 sisters at our house in Wagstaff Kansas on Halloween in 1984. You can't put pain into words you can only try to live the best way that you can with it. Lisa Montgomery was a good woman and a good friend. Bobbie Jo Stinnett didn't deserve to be treated like this and neither did Lisa because of her Brain injury.
i was thinking the same thing. they must know that if one got abused then it’s a matter of days the other will follow. Was it a wrong decision or a lack of interest to look into it.
If it was even true.
@@briandm33 lisa was a good woman and good friend??? Idk how anyone could say that w a straight face. Didn't she befriend Bobby Joe with designs on stealing her unborn fetus, from her womb as she died on the floor with a garrote around her neck?! If THAT'S what is considered a "good woman & a good friend" then Hitler was a jew loving saint! The description is in COMPLETE opposition to her actions! Bobby Joe was a real good woman & friend who didn't deserve to have her life ripped away so violently for ANYONE else's selfish lies! She trusted Lisa, befriended Lisa, brought her into her home & was slaughtered for it. Yeah...Lisa's a REAL good woman! Or should I say...WAS!?
She was removed for neglect, not... oftentimes one child is targeted for very different treatment, so they may have thought Lisa was being treated fairly. I don’t really know, just speculating, but they did the same with me. My older brother was removed, I wasn’t. He wasn’t the one being abused.
The victim was horrifically killed for her baby. She was just 23. Even if the killer had suffered severe abuse, it gives her no right for what she had done. The victim’s daughter will be 18 this year but she has lost her mother forever. That is heartbreaking.
Many prayers to the victims family. May you find some kind of peace,justice and closer.
"America has executed a woman who many believe was incapable of understanding her own death." Mkay...BUT.. she was more than capable of understanding Bobbie Jo's death, so capable in fact, that she meticulously planned, studied how to perform a cesarean section, brought all the necessary tools to perform it and did so well in fact that the baby survived. I think she was plenty capable of understanding what was happening to her and why.
underated comment.
Very well stated!
@A L o i s i a 90 52 but a rule of law , it was think some kind of doctrine states that if a person knows of she / he did was wrong and was in right senses when doing it they are guilty
I absolutely agree! And if that's you in your profile pic you are very beautiful!
And drove from a different state which was nowhere near where Bobby Jo lived. Miss me with "she didn't understand" crap. She planned it, and connived her way into knowing and meeting the victim.
Can you imagine if every child that was abused turned into a killer? There wouldn't be many people left because a large percentage of children are abused in some way.
Good thing that people don't all deal with things the same way, or get the same help
@@erinkinsella91 The point is being abused is not an excuse for murdering a woman and cutting her baby out...the bias in this little documentary is hilarious...the vast majority of Americans support monsters like this being put down...I just wish it was more efficient
There would be millions of us on death row today if childhood abuse made us all kill and abuse others. Liberal bleeding hearts are a lawless bunch. What about the victim?
It seems that most people hated their children in the old days so I wonder if there were more murderers and other criminals back then.
It affects everyone differently and that's what place need to remember!
The most heartbreaking thing about this is now the baby is grown up and her birthday occurs on the anniversary of her mothers death💔
The sadness on both sides of this case is beyond words; but we must have justice.
And who is protesting the way this woman killed the pregnant woman?
are you?
@@tonysopranoholdinganeedler1638 if I had been able to be there, I'm sure I would have been the only person in the crowd with a poster saying : WHAT ABOUT THE WOMAN WHO WAS MURDERED FOR HER BABY ? WHO PROTESTS FOR HER Does that make you feel better?
She tore that infant from that mother’s bleeding body. She knew exactly what she was doing irregardless of her awful upbringing. God have mercy on that poor mother.
A evil mind sorry, yes she was abused and bought up years after her jail term. But she did murder a pregnant mother and took the baby. Sick evil monster.
@@berenlevia8486 Lisa Montgomery is dead so I don’t know what more we can do at this point
Most people I have come in contact with who has been abused are actually some of the most kindest and protective people!
My sisters and brothers have been abused as well as me and they weren't. My brother for example is a violent controlling narcissist
@@healingandgrowth-infp4677 Im so sorry that you had to go through that and unfortunately abused person can either be the most protective kindhearted person especially too vulnerable people or they unfortunately become an abuser as well and its sad because I really wish people would choose to break the cycle and have inner peace but sometimes they can't get away from the pain of the past, blessings to you sweetheart and even your brother I pray for all of you to have a peacefulness that surpasses all understanding🙏🏼😇😘💕its not neither one of your fault that this happened.
@@healingandgrowth-infp4677 sorry that you have suffered under the person you are very close to
Exactly. We want better 4 others so they don't suffer like us.People survived the Holocaust n Rwanda genocidal wars but haven't killed anyone.They v forgiven n teach love.
until they are off their meds.
This is one of the many reasons I love living here. If a person savagely murders a young, pregnant woman, steals her baby and when they're caught hopefully their ass will get executed. Yall need to do a documentary on the victim's life and her daughter who's growing up without her mother.
My sympathy goes to the sweet innocent little angel who will never have more than a photo/video of their mom. no hugs, or kisses, no magic moments, no wisdoms shared. My heart breaks knowing this woman was killed by this monster in the most brutal of ways and her last thoughts was most likely the absolute torment and fear for her unborn child. Im not 1 for the death penalty. But in this case i feel anything less would be an injustice.
This is a horror story, every aspect of it. Beginning to end.
@trinisum NEWS FLASH: This documentary was certainly NOT a horror story. 😒😒😒😒😒 Call it what it really is . . . . . . . . . a story based on actual events ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! But a " horror story ", far from it.
“Horrifying” was when she cut open a still-alive and FEELING young mother.
They even totally glossed over that fact, just stating Lisa strangled her and then proceeded to cut her stomach.
Lisa was abused badly as a child: but why would she inflict such horror on another person? This is what I don't understand..
Yesterday I read an interview from Lisa's sister and I couldn't help but cry. She was tortured so many times, and she could have been saved so many times as well, but no one decided to do anything for her. Bobbie Jo would still be alive if only someone had helped the brutalized and traumatized girl that Lisa Montgomery once was.
Perhaps she lived a tragic life, but in no way was she justified in doing the horrific things she did. Justice was served one way or another
Her childhood was tragic but she had intelligence to use the internet, research a surgical procedure and obtain tools to perform a crude version of it...all because she selfishly wanted a baby and couldn’t get one by other means
Exactly. These are tasks only an adult intelligence can accomplish.
She could have adopted n be truthful
Please give me a break. She was lucid enough to look up how to do a sophisticated surgical procedure ONLINE (tell a 5yr old they used as an example in their description to do this) AND do a test run the night before. Justice served.
@@alexandreanjou8324 I am a woman who is in college and works, and I agree. This woman was incredibly evil and she knew exactly what she was doing. Also why are you bringing gender into this. People can have opinions from all walks of life, even if they are wrong, like you.
@@alexandreanjou8324 I don’t think an engineer has any more intelligence when it comes to murder than the next narcissistic loser, and also what does age have to do with anything? I’m 20 now and I had the same opinion on murderers when I was 12. They deserve to die the same way they killed.
@@alexandreanjou8324 ….what is wrong with you?
@@summerreagan2204 pop off queen! 👏🏻
@@alexandreanjou8324 I am a teacher. I have a university degree, and I never played a video game. Sh.ut up, you engineer.
Someone who "diagnoses" themselves is not sick; they're slick. Glad it didn't work and she was executed. I also was abused as a child in much the same manner. I don't use my abuse as an excuse.
This was actually the first case I’d heard about a woman killing a pregnant woman and cutting the baby out of her womb. Unspeakably horrible and reprehensible, the suffering the poor young woman endured because of that selfish monster. Lisa Montgomery’s traumatic life, in no way excuses what she did.
some parents dont deserve their children
Some people just are incapable of being parents.
It seems to me that the problem is much deeper than it is shown to us. The State has a monopoly on violence. And if someone destroys this monopoly, even a mentally ill person, then the State will be ruthlessly prosecuting that person.
Can you elaborate? I've seen this statement copy pasted everywhere.
@@pseudorealityisreal FACTS.
@@pseudorealityisreal Some people should be restricted from becoming parents, for the sake of protecting themselves, and most importantly, society.
No excuse for her killing a woman and taking her baby! I can’t imagine the torture Bobby went through as Lisa was cutting her stomach open. Unimaginable! After I wrote this I read where Lisa killed Bobby first then did a C section on her.. horrible beyond words..
Did you see the video with people who witnessed her execution. It's on KZhead somewhere
She was still alive. She suffered fought back n knew what was happening the entire time. The horror she endured is unimaginable. The little girls birthday is her mother’s murder anniversary n has to try n celebrate n mourn on the same day forever.
@@AllHailKingRose I never thought of that. It is so awful.
How on earth can that woman call a monster like this a friend?It is truly mind blowing...😳How?How do you love a person like that?
The relentless ads interrupting this profoundly sad & terrible story are jarring & infuriating.
So if she didn't know what was going on during the execution then she didn't suffer, and that's a whole lot better than what Bobbie Jo went through.
I was getting sober in late 2004 when this story hit Time magazine. In my throws of withdraw and aching pains I read the article. It gave me nitemares and horrifying visions. It also sent a message to my brain that there is always someone out there that has it a lot worse that didn't deserve it. Bobbi wasn't an addict. Bobbi didn't steal. Bobbi didn't cheat or lie. She was an innocent victim. I was not. I brought on my own demons and pain. I deserved death if anyone ever did. Here I am in 2021. 16 years sober. Her story gave me so much strength to fight to survive and get my shit together. I owe a lot of my life to Bobbi Joe's story.
Great story Caja! Thank you!
Congratulations to you! One day at a time!
I am so glad that you turned your life around. Good luck for continued sobriety! ❤❤🙏🙏
sounds like you're concocting a defense.
@@Bribosome uhmmmm........
She wasn’t brain damaged. She studied and preformed a successful c-section. Her lawyer says it’s a needless indignity and a deprivation of her basic humanity. What about her victims basic humanity? Where was her spiritual advisor when her baby was cut from her womb? I’m glad Lisa is gone, I hope it provides some comfort for her family.
She wasn’t like a five year old girl. Don’t even try for it. You do remember what she did right?
It seems an injustice to her victim and their family to tell this story with so much emphasis on Lisa’s past and abuse. It has NO baring on what she did aside from how she viewed the world and what little she thought of others. Plenty of us have been a victim and have grown to help and support others in the same boat. There is NO excuse for hurting or harming others, period.
Had no bearing? It’s literally the reason it happened. She was no longer sane. smh
Exactly!
Being raped or sexually abused doesn't make you an evil or amoral person. These are just excuses.
Really??? You think all the torture she went through didn't make her a monster?
So, all the torture she went through gave her the right to plan and carry out her plan ? Destroyed a whole family and friends. Left a child without a mother ? She planned it !!!! There have been people who have been tortured and abused and they don’t go around doing evil things. Look at the holocaust survivors ? They went through a lot more than this woman. Did they all turn into monsters ??? NO!!!! Put yourselves in the victims family and friends side. See if you would be saying the same thing .
If a man had committed this exact same crime, almost nobody in this comment section would be making excuses about them having a tough childhood
So true
Absolutely true every single time.
thats just BS
You obviously haven’t met the Rodney Reed & Pervis Payne supporters. Reed despite being a psychopath monster has Dr Phil & Oprah doing nothing but making excuses for him.
this has nothing to do with her being a woman. i mean, look at how many people empathize with literal serial killers like ted bundy and jeffrey dahmer. people are just sick in the head and obsessed with criminals. it has been like that for awhile. look at how many netflix documentaries that humanize killers and not even mentioning anything about the lives of the victims.
Only God can judge someone’s heart and there are many broken hearts 💔 in this story. 🙏🏾
Wait…did anyone notice the sick situation of her prison friend holding a damn stuffed dog? This was the excuse that got that demon into the house to butcher an innocent pregnant woman? That’s sick as shit
I live in Missouri and my recollection of this story is clear. She planned, she executed, she fled. She knew she had to educate herself, she knew she had to flee because she would be in trouble..how much more responsible and deliberate do you get? But because she is about to reap what she has sown, her defense is she didn't know what she was doing was somehow wrong. I also love how her family supposedly steps up to confirm she was sexually and physically abused as a child... if they all knew and did nothing they should be held accountable for allowing it to continue. I cannot judge her heart but I can say even children know there are consequences for your actions.
I had a screwed up childhood ,never thought about committing such evil acts I prayed and ask the lord too give me strength
This town has had a history of horrible events. A town bully that eventually went as far as murder of a senior resident. He was supposedly executed by town vigilantes outside of a bar. Then, the events described in this vid. There are other stories about this town that Rod Serling couldn't have thought up for "The Twilight Zone". There is a presence here in Skidmore, Missouri and evil is it's name.
Blows my mind that people are trying to paint Lisa in a sympathetic light. Justice was served.
Being abused you would think she would have empathy for people. Instead she chose to be a monster, her choice. She did the most horrific thing you can imagine. My sympathy is for Bobby Jo and her family.
EXACTLY...She had to go!!!...
So many children have been beaten, raped, tortured.. They didnt grow up to inflict atrocities and pain on others.. This was a planned, premeditated heinous murder in the hands of an extremely emotionally & physically violent woman. This killer deserves to be put to death. Her frame of mind towards the end is of no consequence. Her brutal actions were.. Kill those who kill.
That's not always the case, unfortunately. People who have been abused so extremely and practically from the very beginning, often have their own perception of empathy and morality which can be completely distorted. That's what makes abuse based severe mental health issues like this so dangerous, to the ill and to the society, especially not treated.
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@@panbonifacy yes, some cases they would "revenge" on someone else, they justify their behavior with what they have gone through themselfs
She certainly was quite capable of understanding and carrying out Bobbie Jo's death. Just sayin'. NO SYMPATHY! She was pure evil.
I doubt anyone comes in to this world as “pure evil”. That is a simple explanation of a complicated and tragic story made by ignorant people who are not able to hold 2 opposing thoughts in their minds at one time. Would it be too difficult to acknowledge that perhaps Lisa Montgomery was so badly damaged by the horrendous abuse she apparently suffered from the 2 people who were supposed to love and protect her, that she too grew up to perform a heinous and horrific act on another human being? It makes sense to me. Monkey see, monkey do. Do you honestly think that Lisa Montgomery had any chance whatsoever to be normal? Or to live a normal life? Hell no! But that doesn’t mean that she doesn’t have to take responsibility for what she did and be sentenced for it. It simply means we can have compassion and understanding for a person and the shitty life they had, and be repulsed and horrified by what they did.
@@levondelite4072 alot of people are abused and do not do horrible things. i don't really understand the monkey see monkey do logic.
@@phreakisop9810 Me neither.
@@levondelite4072 well said Someone with a heart soul and a brain 🌷💓🌷💓
@@phreakisop9810 agreed but everyone is different n
I'm in two minds on this one.When i think of poor Bobby Jo and what she went through i think good riddance.But when I think of the trauma Lisa went through i can understand how she became so disturbed.Severe trauma while the brain is still forming changes it Lisa never stood a chance.I just don't know.
She may have been unable to understand her own death, but she had no problem murdering Bobbie Jo Stinnett.
Lisa she's evil period her miserable childhood doesn't give her the right to slaughter smone we all have broken childhood but life goes on she was supposed to go to rehab
true
No it doesn’t give Her the right, it gives society insight as to what Creates.
I agree, her past gives her no Right to kill someone............what gives US the right?
What is the success rates of our rehabs? Does anyone know? I could take a guess, I’ve met so many. People have been Trying to satisfy needs for revenge and that need is bottomless. We kill our killers and we get Thrice as many. So we kill more and more till one day we wake up and our children are killing masses. MAYBE we should put our focus on something a bit more pure than revenge, maybe we Aught to Look at the creator
Exactly
Some crimes are simply irredeemable; and, we are fooling ourselves if we think otherwise.
The devil made Scott Peterson do the same act to his wife. Laci Rocha
@@candivarela3702 the devil doesnt make anyone do anything , he can only put the package of temptation at your front door, he cant make you sign for it .
@Fyndhorn Whisperer it does work , no repeat offender . The only problem with the death penalty is it is not carried out swiftly, and in public.
@Fyndhorn Whisperer you explained your opinion and it was noted.
To portray this calculated and meticulous slayer into a victim for this heinous crime? No one should have sympathy. No excuse, not one, for what this monster did to Bobbie Jo Stinnett.
Well lisa understood killing the young mother and cutting out the baby. No sympathy.
I'm so sick of this shit. Whatever happened to her back when she was a kid has absolutely nothing to do with her pre meditating this murder she did.
We all have choices, she made hers and had to pay for it.
She deserves it. Having a cruel childhood doesn’t mean going to kill someone. If you murder someone you deserve to die.
YOU SAID IT.
@@gastonforde2121 The sleazy BBC trying to draw sympathy for that murderer.
You know everyone is against dead penalty until it’s their relatives or close friend that is killed the all of the sudden they’re for it.
@@con1676 so true
@@con1676 No. Not everybody. True Christians forgive, like Blake's mother, like the family of those slaughtered by a White Supremacist at Ebeneezer Baptist Church.
That's just a crock of total crap! She knew what she was doing. She researched it before she did it. No one made her commit that horrible act. She CHOSE to do it. Using her past terrible childhood is outrageous. I'm a survivor myself so they don't even need to try and validate her actions just because she was abused. She should have looked for help when she had the chance. Its the victim and her family that deserves to be remembered! NOT the monster who killed her.
Set her mother was in prison for 16 years after abusing her at 10 years age, that would make her 26 years old when her mother got out of prison, right? Doesn't add up quite right. I'm going to throw the flag and call foul
This story seems so complex. I personally have a friend who suffered horrendous abuse as a child, suffered similar atrocities as this woman did, yet he has gone on to be an upstanding member of society, he cares for people, protects people, and makes sure his abusers don't win, by allowing himself not to fall off the rails. So easily he could have, and excuses could have been made from his childhood experiences, but he didn't. He did the opposite. An example that abuse that may have happened in the past, doesn't define you as the person you are now.
@tina subbs Thank you
That’s him... stupid
My Condolences to Bobbie jo stinnett's family. Hope the child grew up to be like her mother. Rest in peace Bobbie jo stinnett.
She may have been tortured when she was a child, but that should not be an excuse for the torture and death she put Bobbie Jo through..she knew exactly what she was doing!
why honour the documentary towards the murderer instead of the innocent woman who had to lose her life in the most indescribable way.
I think this highlights a darker, primal part of humans that is, quite frankly; disturbing
You ain't seen the half of it. What we're capable of doing is just as frightening as it is inspiring. I've seen some absolutely horrific things on the internet and even I know that there are things out there that i haven't seen that would no doubt give me PTSD. We are capable of so much evil. You wouldn't believe that a human could be so evil and it's disbelief as to how people could be so evil. For some people it is just so so easy.
@@tyrannosaurusflex3698 I think people, especially from a young, impressionable age, can be made into monsters. Some may suffer and only affect themselves. A child's mind is very malleable, very easily molded or affected by monsters, and when it's their parents, the damage is worse. I am sorry for the victim and her family,. Their pain is from people who were good parents. Humans are more fragile than we even know.
I think it's the fear of law that hides our animalistic nature
Why are you so shocked...just take a look at the numerous polgroms , genocide et-al over the ages. Man is vile
@@sudarshan3965 I think it's our societal rules and how were raised. The larger society approves or doesn't on a lot of behaviors and they are considered "normal" beliefs. Some are changed and modified as society learns and is enlightened, goes forward in time. Then the society has enforcement added.
With all the damage Lisa suffered there is no cure. So hopefully her execution gives her peace. But most of all I hope it gives the family of her victims peace! The child was a victim too.
A society that allowed the sexual abuse, mistreatment and torture of a little girl does not deserve justice...I'm so sorry Lisa, you committed a crime and you deserve to pay, but I will always feel horrible for the little girl you were that no one protected.
I see this video as an eye opener on what a traumatic childhood experience can do to a person, yes I have seen people become stronger land successful later on in life but most became scarred for life and others even turned killers like this one. Parents and elders should mold the mind of a child as God wants it and if parents fail then the government should take care of the child making sure his or everything is fine, and if the government fails then the church and NGO's should take over. It is complex but we should make sure that every child should have a bright future and a good upbringing.
The amount of meticulous planning that went into this horrific crime.... I'm so sorry that Lisa went through such a traumatic childhood - so have I, but I haven't killed anyone over it. And don't intend to.
She was returned to her father and I hope she’s living a good life
This is BEYOND heartbreaking and disturbing. RIP BOBBIE JO 🙏😢🥀
Her own sister went through trauma and abuse and she certainly didn’t cut out a baby
Ok, why does everyone think firing squads are inhumane??? Seriously. You're dead before you know you've been shot. It's the most humane way to kill someone. It's painless and instantaneous. I think this should be the main execution method everywhere.
Lisa's parents didn't murdered anyone , but they took 3 lives
The murder was 100% Lisa’s fault. Her parents certainly damaged her but Lisa was the one who planned and took the decision to kill the mother and kidnap the baby
It’s all in the genes, her mother having no remorse either
@@dafalzonAUS criminality has nothing to do in the genes, diseases yes, but cruelty is one of the faces of humanity and unfortunately it cannot be summed up in "genes". Her mother was horrible, all the man who raped her damaged her, and yes she chose to plan the murder and kidnap BUT again, its not in the genes, its about out dleicate brains which we still dont know everything about and traumas change us
@Cameron Branford everyone is affected differently given what happened to her insanity wouldnt be an unreasonable outcome
Excellent, intelligent post. Hurt people, hurt people. And Lisa's evil mother and every man she brought into her life and allowed to abuse her, created a hurt and broken adult. How about instead of killing criminals, the wealthy USA tries investing money in prevention? Like making sure children are removed from abusive homes, and given the loving care they need in their formative years? An ounce of prevention is worth more than a ton of cure! There's no doubt Lisa was a very damaged adult, to have been capable of such an horrific crime. And motive is all - she killed a pregnant woman, to steal her baby. It was as crazy as it was barbaric, for she would never get away with raising that child as her own. How can anyone say she was of sound mind?
You can’t use sexual abuse as a get out jail free card. As an adult you have to find another way to,for lack of a better word,excise your demons. Besides how does a bad childhood have anything to do with cutting open a woman’s womb and remove her child? I’m sorry she suffered but there is no rationalizing this crime. I don’t always agree with the death penalty but this time execution was spot on. Be a grownup and bare your burden like a grownup
Lisa Montgomery was obviously unable to act as a grownup.
Take a good look of catholics
Lots of evil lurks everywhere those foster people shoot the Catholics take a
The truth of the matter is this women was angry so let's do some blame on the victim like fight for your life and your unborn child's life fight fight with everything and don't give in to anything everything is possible I Kno all about victims n the blame but this is real and lots
Look at the crime now .
Thanks for posting this.
You guys really trying to force sympathy for someone who murdered someone and then cut their baby out? That's fuckin wild lol
I can't believe anyone could plan to cut out a baby from a pregnant women. Justice was done.
Excuse, Excuse she did it so let her pay for it already.
I’m a Democrat and I’m for the death penalty, only if there is physical evidence. I wouldn’t want an innocent person executed. This case is definitely warranted for execution.
Thank you! I'm exactly the same way on this.
Like Dustin Honken from Mason City, Iowa who killed 5 people back in 1993.He killed 2 little girls their mother, and 2 drug informants who were going to testify against him.
The death penalty is revenge, not justice. You don't want a society based on revenge.
I agree but what about the people who have been framed, sadly it does happen & so many people are excuted even when there is no physical evidence, i think they should give criminals lie detector tests & a shot of the truth drug then torture & fry thďe f***ers 😨 👍💯% Nobody that hurts our innocent children deserve to breath the same air as us...........
Same