COVID-19 Vaccines and Ivermectin with MedCram and Dr. Roger Seheult
This is a special episode bringing you up-to-date science on COVID-19 vaccination featuring a conversation between Dr. Rhonda Patrick and MedCram founders Dr. Roger Seheult and physician assistant Kyle Allred.
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Dr. Roger Seheult is, as you will find out in the conversation, a boots on the ground, critical care pulmonologist. For him, COVID-19 is not just theory. He sees real sick people and for that reason brings a very special context to this conversation. Furthermore, Dr. Seheult is also an academic and educator. He is an Associate Clinical Professor at the University of California, Riverside School of Medicine and an Assistant Clinical Professor at the School of Medicine and Allied Health at Loma Linda University. He is quadruple-board certified in Internal Medicine, Pulmonary Diseases, Critical Care Medicine and Sleep Medicine through the American Board of Internal Medicine.
Chapters
00:00:00 - Introduction
00:01:20 - Vaccination in the young and healthy
00:06:47 - Risk of myocarditis
00:10:40 - Long-haul covid in the young and healthy
00:19:58 - Spike protein cytotoxicity
00:28:38 - Biodistribution
00:35:39 - COVID-19 vaccine adverse events
01:01:17 - Antibody-dependent enhancement
01:09:16 - Do the COVID-19 vaccines damage human fertility?
01:14:13 - mRNA vaccines altering human DNA
01:22:32 - Current ivermectin evidence
01:42:02 - Delta-variant and breakthrough infections
01:56:04 - Viral evolution (virulence vs. immune escape)
02:05:07 - T-cell immunity vs. antibody immunity
02:08:34 - Were the vaccines rushed?
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We really enjoyed this discussion with you Dr. Patrick! Thank you for your time, informative responses, and also your diligent research and commitment to follow science where it leads. We've been inspired by many of your videos and interviews and love how you encourage optimization of personal health and immunity!
Thank you for this in-depth discussion. I think this is aimed at the hesitant, but I didn't catch any discussion on the high VAERS reports for the vaccines. Getting Pierre Kory to participate would be fantastic. Ultimately all I got out of this is one front line doctor's opinion, backed up by some stats and papers. Dr Kory is also in the front line, with his own stats and papers, but with a different opinion. Who are we to believe?
Natural immunity is a critical part of this discussion that was not covered.
I wish we’d covered it since the paper comparing natural immunity to Pfizer/BioNTech immunity and hybrid immunity was very interesting. It’s a somewhat recent paper. I’ve tweeted about it and anticipate if we have a follow-up conversation we might cover it.
@@FoundMyFitness from what I can observe in the people I know, natural immunity is lasting and robust. Im not seeing people who were infected with covid19, and not vaccinated become re-infected. I've seen many people who are vaccinated get sick with covid19, some of who had a previous infection, then were vaccinated, then got a more severe case of covid19 later on. So I wouldn't downplay the possibility of ADE. I'd say the data out of Israel is much closer aligned with what I can touch and the data out of the United States claiming infections are primarily in the unvaccinated is impossible. I live in south Louisiana so I get to see a lot of people who are affected by this disease.
Of course natural immunity is stronger. You get a much stronger inoculation (the actual virus). Why wait for natural immunity when you can prevent symptom severity or prevent disease entirely with a vaccine?
@@bman023 yes, natural immunity is lasting and robust as long as it is not a low enough viral load to prevent reinfection and not high enough of a viral load to make you extremely sick, give you long term symptoms or even kill you.
what about treating early covid symptoms before the patient worsens and has to be admitted? I am disgusted with the MD's that are not treating early symptoms of covid to prevent hospitalization. This is why people are not trusting medical dr's anymore.
If people aren't going to the doctor until the last minute then how are the doctors going to treat them. Lets face it, most people that are getting sick now are pretty good at denial.
And who says they are not treating them ?
@@KC53557 In Canada there is NO early treatment. We are told to stay home, take Tylenol and when we can’t breathe go to the hospital. HCQ and Ivermectin are banned for use in Canada for Covid. Doctors cannot prescribe these drugs for Covid. Our medical community has failed us. Our public health officials have failed us.
Vaccinated or unvaccinated, is it prudent to have therapeutics like Ivermectin and Fluvoxamine at the ready? Following Dr. Seheult's Swiss-cheese model, I believe the answer is yes. It seems far too many of these therapeutic studies include hospitalized patients; these cannot be considered early treatment. Therefore, these studies should be dismissed, the FLCCC finding that the efficacy of therapeutics diminish rapidly 7-days past symptom onset. This suggest that it is too late to acquire therapeutics on symptom recognition, the process taking valuable time. It also suggest treating on clinical suspicion, not waiting for a positive test result. Accordingly, to remove subjectivity, daily monitoring/recording of body temperature and Sp02% is a given.
@@joannetrimbur4318 I can see where you're coming from with trying treatments that have been proven through randomised trials. However we are in the middle of a pandemic. So shouldn't it be up to the treating physician to do what doctors do? Why wait until someone needs the ICU or the ventilator, when a therapy has been used successfully many times over?
Wish you guys would have included the question surrounding natural immunity for people that recovered from covid without vaccination and how they are protected vs being vaccinated.
I agree this would've been good to cover. It's relatively recent work that came out and I have no doubt that Dr. Seheult would've happily waded in if prompted, too. Future discussion?
@@FoundMyFitness most doctors and scientists I've been reading said that Covid antibodies pale in comparison to the protection of the vaccines. Both in duration and effacacy.
@@northsource7215 False. I hope she responds to this.
@@someoneusa I hope so too. Because it's true.
@@northsource7215 Says the drug companies that manufacture the vaccine, your binary thinking is what is going to get people killed, I hope you are happy with yourself.
My godmother had a major heart attack 3 days after her 2nd dose of pfizer, she was feeling off 2 days prior thinking she just had heartburn. She was hospitalized for 8 days and nearly died. Medical doctors never even considered it being from the vaccine and it was never reported in Vaers. My godmother was just happy to be alive after the incident. She had no history of heart issues, and heart disease does not run in her family.
2:15 of course you do. You’re in the ER. Talk to the docs providing early outpatient and preventative treatment that are keeping countless others out of your hospital. EARLY TREATMENT MATTERS.
You do realize he's comparing the ages of people showing up in his ER to prior times? Meaning there or MORE of those people showing up now? Also, if you watch his channel, (and more than 3 minutes of this podcast) they talk about things that act as a prophylactic.
@Jarod Grave you are right man but unfortunately not everyone agrees with you. So rather than trying to coerce people to get vaccinated (even though it’s with good intention) you might have to offer something new. If all that’s on the menu is salad and these people refuse salad and start dying from starvation then you can offer a pizza. Maybe the pizza isn’t nearly as good as a salad but at least it’s something. At least it’s a compromise. Salad being vaccine and pizza being early treatment etc.
Here’s what’s great about early treatment: it is good to have whether you’re vaccinated or not. Think of it as the emergency brake. Too many people are having breakthrough cases with hospitalization in my area because, apparently, they believe that the vaccine is going to prevent infection or serious illness from happening. It doesn’t. So be sure to have a backup plan. Know what to do when you or a loved one gets covid. Vaccinated or not.
Yes. I do. Delta variant is far more infectious than prior variants. Viral loads are higher, quicker. People start off mild, but deteriorate faster. Must treat IMMEDIATELY.
@Jarod Grave these covid vaccines are leaky and are Definitely not a treatment!
Ivermectin is safe so it should be offered while collecting more data. It either has benefit or at worst does nothing. The only reason not to use ivermectin is if the drug was causing harm, which it isn't.
@A Z pretty sure the issue is that the data doesn’t show any real improvement from its use. Just like hydrochloriquine.
At around 5:00, the doctor talks about a 1% survival rate leading to 3.3 million deaths in the U.S. But that's 1% of the entire population, not 1% of those who get infected, which is a much lower figure. And isn't the infection fatality rate 0.2% or 0.3% rather than 1%? And that includes all age ranges. The IFR for younger people will be even lower...
It's disappointing at best
The fatality rate is roughly 1%, though with treatments, preventative measures and vaccinations the overall rate of death is decreasing. It depends on the given population, since younger ages its very small %, and much older populations over 10%. Plus if you have large number of cases in a short period of time, it overloads hospitals, which can cause more deaths as we have seen from normally successful emergency procedures.
This is a perfect example of how "experts" with a bias will use data manipulation to come to a convenient solution and hoping no one independently checks their math. LOL
That would be the infection rate if people just didn’t care and let the virus infect everyone. That’s the poor attitude he was trying to reason with. 1% of a large number is still a large number.
@@tronali5703 Yes, currently September 2021 in Alabama, people are dying because they cannot be admitted to the hospital, due to a shortage of staff and beds.
I have an acquaintance that got her second shot that ended up in the hospital ICU the next day because she was having trouble breathing and walking across the room. Docs thought she was having heart issues but tests were negative. They eventually found her lungs full of tiny blood clots. She had no previous health issues. Thank god they were able to treat the blood clots and she is doing okay, considering. She had tons of testing done afterwards.
Thats so sad to hear! I am glad she is doing okay now.
In Idaho you need to mention they laid off a high percentage of hospital workers for not being vaccinated. This creates the situation hospital are in. But news only wants to blame unvaccinated
By logic, they are the unvaccinated . Just saying
@@MsUsername213 Yeah, I could have worded that better. But laying off half your staff and then having a staffing shortage (hospital at it's limit) is a hospital administration problem.
Yes, but this is happening outside of Idaho as well. It’s happening at my hospital in Southern California. Fortunately we have not had to resort to “death panels” yet.
Source? What is your source, because I heard the same thing, but I couldn’t find the source. It involves my hospital…
@@MsUsername213 One wonders how many of these HCWs, having recovered from a COVID-19 infection, having acquired strong immunity, see it as reckless to take the risk of a jab, recognizing that it would provide them zero benefit. Given many of these HCWs stayed on the job, risking their lives and the lives of their family throughout the pandemic, it seems immoral to fire them at this point. But what else can one expect from an administration that callously abandons its own citizens behind enemy lines.
Thanks Rhonda. Why does no one discuss the role of obesity in n this pandemic? CDC reports 79% of all hospitalizations are obese. But no one talks about it. No one talks about getting healthy. It's probably not politically correct to tell people to get moving. Take responsibility for your choices.
Because body shaming is hate speech, and causes snowflakes to melt. You have to be sensitive to the culture, or you will get called a bigot and cancelled.
Can't make money on getting fatties exercising.
It's constantly mentioned as a risk factor. Why do covid deniers always make false claims?
@@Jorgie1944 You know, it would be nice to see a compilation of covid-related "lose weight" instructions given by MD's and government officials. Maybe it would last for an entire minute.
Because its usually conservative snowflakes who are obese. Also because in America, being obese is ironically a freedom that should not be infringed just de facto our culture of 'rugged individual freedom'.
You point out that there is a huge amount of under-reporting of adverse effects, but gloss over it as if it is nothing to be concerned about. It tells me that there is a ton of adverse effects that are not in the recorded data. Doctors aren't reporting the adverse effects. WTF why isn't that a huge deal??
It is a huge deal as it undermines the trust of people who want to look into the data and make an informed decision.
Because adverse effects are in the decimal numbers of probabilities man
@@rodrigoillas6085 right? But somehow not concerned about the HUGE risk of damage from Sars-cov2 infection and post covid syndrome. I'm not sure what else people want to "weigh out their decision"? People are just looking for things to support their narrative and victimhood rather than accepting the facts in front of them
@@rodrigoillas6085 but the fact that adverse effects are under reported tells us that those numbers of yours there are necessarily too small.
@@susul2843 I agree that the risks of covid outweigh the risks of the vaccines, which is why I got it, but the point is, people who are hesitant about the vaccine aren't irrational anti-science whackjobs; things like this demonstrate that there are legitimate concerns. And in such a fragile trust economy as we have now, Silencing people and forcing people to get the vaccine despite their rational hesitancy is a surefire way to lose their trust, and allow the genuine whqckjobs to gain trust.
Its unclear? Why would u cherry pick in the ivermectin case? There are more than enough ivermectin only vs controle group studies, yet you only pick the "bad" ones to make your point? Why is that?
Exactly what I said! I'm so disappointed in this interview.
Not only that…but in the trials …doing single doses. Wtf world
@@ItIsAllLies iam certain that this isnt the case
Peer pressure. Pointing out the bad studies as if they are the only studies is a tell tail sign.
"No comorbidities, just a little overweight." Makes me wonder about diet, vitamin D and selenium levels as well as metabolic syndrome for risk factors.
In other words- these are people that were not healthy enough to live? Not healthy enough for you to care about? What exactly are you arguing- that we explain away the thousands of deaths because none are perfect victims?
I like the nuance in the conversation. Agreed that the official data on the I word is not in, but if I were in hospital with Covid, I would want to be treated by a doctor who is willing to apply the kitchen sink, rather than waiting for the official studies.
I would rather get a vaccine and not go to the hospital to begin with.
There were never long term trials, thus we really have no idea if the vac is safe. How many drugs has the FDA approved and then years later pulled them? Recently two high level FDA testing people quit. Pull the liability protection if there is no risk.
@@gz993 which vaccine was pulled?
Young people can have low glutathione and poor immune systems as well as anyone else. Children eat more sugar for example than older people who are aware of its dangers.
Fuck it’s hard to know what to do and these video kind of help I’m a 35 year old male, exercise 5 times a week, eat lots of fruits and vegetables, get enough sleep and supplement well Give me the data of people in this demographic as most young people getting sick tend to be out of shape
Stop eating that fruit!!!
25 somethings are in pitiful shape! Physically and mentally weak!
@@theantiqueactionfigure actually don't stop. Fruits are loaded with antioxidants. Add berries to the mix and nuts.
It also depends on your genetic makeup. Some things you can't control unfortunately.
The US went through a very bad wave between November 2020 and March 2021. So, obviously, we focused on enhancing and fortifying the health care system. Nope. Sure didn’t. Makes perfect sense.
Yup instead they did the complete opposite and fired most of their doctors and nurses, over the stoopid mandates. I am beginning to think these clowns are just the same as MSM.
@@gabrieltorres5732 97% of all doctors are vaccinated.
I am so angry that in my state New Mexico they gave money to people to get vaccinated. One person won 5 million. WTF! They could have used that money to hire/ recruit nurses and expand the healthcare system. They don’t use their money wisely.
@@here2learn737 from the AMA’s statement.
@@here2learn737 nurses are the ones not getting vaccinated. Most of them don’t know jack shit.
Thank you for this information. The only thing I have issue with is the VERS reporting is still subjective. Ten hours after my 1st shot I had incredible vertigo, it was debilitating, I could not move because if I did it made it worse. I ended up vomiting for about an hour. Did not feel normal for 3 days. I phoned my doctor the morning after and they just said I must have had covid. I gave blood 2 times during covid, no antibodies found. The only reason I say anything is because I do not believe some doctors are taking reactions seriously. I'm still dealing with vertigo and am scheduled for my second vaccine next week. It will be 8 weeks after the 1st because I finally feel like my body has healed. Vertigo issues lasted for about 7 weeks.
My 26 year old niece said she feels like an old woman after the 2nd Pfizer shot and will not be getting the booster.
The second shot is worse. If you want the shot, go for it, but the second is almost always worse.
Jesus christ hope you all get better
@@SuperAtheist I heard that COVID-19, and possibly the vaccines, can trigger Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. If this is what your Niece is experiencing, it could get worse.
Don't do it. There are other legit MDs and scientists who are also trained professionals who say its a bad idea. Its always wise to hear both sides of an argument before we make important decisions.
Why are vaccines being mandated on people who have natural immunity? Are vaccines more effective than natural immunity?
I would say that no one bothered to track those who got Covid and recovered
I'm pretty concerned after hearing about the 6 school children who died after contracting Delta. Protecting the people who aren't able to get the vaccine yet is a pretty big responsibility for all of us adults right now
@@shumyla Do you have more info on those cases? It’s my understanding that kids are catching delta more, but there has been no increase in deaths for them. Still much lower the the flu in that group. Also, everyone will be exposed to C19 at one point or another, so I don’t really buy the concept of vaccination to prevent others from getting sick, especially when these shots have moderate efficacy of preventing infection.
@@shumyla If you let the outlying data sway your concern then you will always live in fear. You cant have an instance of 1 of 100 000 000 drive institutional change
@@maynardbecker4613 I'm pretty sure those six children are relevant to their parents. Auto accidents is not a fair comparison.. accidents are by nature, unavoidable. However, masks and vaccines make Covid avoidable.
One of my genuine concerns is the lack of accountability by the drug companies . Also what is the point of the health message ?? Are we to get an injection so we don't have to eat the right foods to boost the immune system ? What about the spiritual and prophetic components of what is going on in the world ? Still I appreciate the post , the hard work gone into the research . As for me I decided years ago for zero flu injections based on some of the unclean sources of the vaccines , and the fact that my body is the temple of the Holy Spirit . Incidentally never had flu for years . Neither do I judge those who choose to have it . My trust is in God . Prayers for you XxPat
What is the cut off time between administering a vaccine to a patient and the patient’s death in which a doctor is legally obligated to report the death? I’ve heard of so many people dying from blood clots and other “unknown causes” anywhere from 3 weeks to 6 months post vaccination. Would their doctors be legally obligated to report any of these “post vaccination deaths”?
You have a much higher chance of getting a blood clot if you get covid. They showed the graphs on this episode, not sure if you saw it.
tabion7 I didn’t ask about the chances of getting blood clots in one circumstance or another, I asked whether or not doctors had any legal obligations to report deaths within a given time frame post injection.
I am experiencing heart problems since getting the vaccine. I received my second Moderna on 5/13/21. About 6 weeks ago, I started feeling heart palpitations. I am a former np, I started taking my blood pressure and pulse which are still elevated in spite of being on a beta blocker. I am currently undergoing various heart testing? I believe somehow the Covid vaccine is playing a role in my elevated BP and pulse. I have never had a problem with high blood pressure or irregular HR…except when I had a thyroid crisis! ?
Reporting to VAERS is voluntary and not all doctors are even aware of VAERS. It's been estimated by several scientific researchers following hospital stats that only 1% of adverse affects and injuries are being reported. The CDC isn't tracking all data
Good question. Also the VAERS database was found to be 100x under-reported. The study was Harvard-connected and done prior to the appearance of Covid. Now we're seeing (these) doctors suggest that VAERS could be over-reported. This seems quite unreasonable.
Dr Patrick, in regard to waning 44% Pfizer vaccine efficiency, we should consider that a significant percentage of vaccinees we're previously infected. How much of this 44% is enduring natural immunity due to infection?
How many patients have early treatment,how many are told to treat symptoms call if they get worse,how many vitamin d deficient,how many vaccinated,unvaccinated ,how many obese?All of these questions should be answered clearly in every study.
Hi Rhonda! I’d like to let you know that I had 1st dose a month ago. 2 hours post, I got the worst headache of my life along with a lot of other symptoms. I’m still having bizarre symptoms. My head feels sore like I got hit on the head by a bat, My neck hurts, my head pulsates, stings, and burns. I went to the ER and was told I’m having problems due to the vaccine and cannot get a second dose. I just wanted to share my ongoing story with you.
@@Leongreat thank you, I worry about that too. My d dimer is .35, so in a normal range. Will be doing an mri soon and will probably have to pay out of pocket for an MRA scan. I guess insurance doesn't want to pay for a 28 year old to get an MRA scan.
@@Leongreat haha thank you! I did a lot of research before I got the shot and I've had help from a post v support group. You seem to know your stuff too! The d dimer was done 3 weeks out. I'm going to ask the doc to check it periodically since I'd be self paying. D dimer tests are only 11 bucks without insurance! And thanks! I only have a 4 day supply of ivermectin so I've struggled to decide if I should take it for these symptoms or wait until I actually get covid.
I'm so sorry to hear about the adverse effects that you're having to live with... And at 28 years old!! I'm just hitting 30 so I can't imagine how difficult that is when we still have 70% of our lives ahead of us. I really hope you have a wonderful doctor who will figure out a way to help you get back to normal! Sending Thoughts 💕 & Prayers 🙏
@TheInvisibleCactus which shot did you get?
@@bombburrito1 1st dose Pfizer
Not all treatments can be evaluated or proven/disproven using RCT. If a drug, like IVM, needs to be started within the first day or 2 of symptoms, like the FLCCC says for the Delta variant, you cannot get people enrolled fast enough to start them. Maybe by Day 4 if you're lucky. But by that time you will need additional drugs. You can do an RCT with lab rats, but not people. That is why for me, the population based studies, mean more to me than a study like the Together Trial.
What is amusing is most of the country did not even know what an RCT was until Dr. Anthony Fauci mentioned that he liked them after President Trump first mentioned hydroxychloroquine. Based on some research, I discovered, within a fifteen year period, the FDA and EMA approved 74 drugs without RCTs [1]. Requesting a Big RCT, ones that only Big Pharma can afford, sets up a barrier to entry for off-patent drugs. As I understand it, Dr. Fauci blocked Bactrim, an AIDS treatment, by insisting on a Big RCT, clearing the path for AZT, a new patent drug. Although history does not repeat itself, it certainly rhymes. [1] "Regulatory approval of pharmaceuticals without a randomised controlled study: analysis of EMA and FDA approvals 1999-2014"
Population studies are important particularly during a pandemic as Dr. Seheult pointed out. The problem is that these population studies with ivermectin are low quality due to the various problems I pointed out. Literally, every population study has at least 1 of the 4 major problems mentioned in this video.
@@FoundMyFitness Thanks, Rhonda, I've enjoyed your programs for years. How would you propose to design an RCT where people are able to take IVM on Day1 or 2 of symptoms? If IVM is used in a way the clinicians say doesn't work well (too late or too low a dose) what is the point of doing the study differently? Also, there needs to be some understanding that a protocol that works for one variant may need to be modified for another. At this point, I'm betting a lot of people have either taken IVM for COVID, or known people who have, and have witnessed it abruptly turn the tide. I believe it is unethical now to withhold IVM, especially from people who ask for it. Thank you again .
Japan knows what they’re doing. Ivermectin and other meds do work. Yall can risk waiting for the perfect RCT. The rest of us common sense people in a pandemic will go with what is working to reduce hospital overload. Thank you Japan!
Japan does not use or recommend use of IVM lol
Idaho icu beds. Sept 13 thru Sept 19 Total icu beds: 307 ICU beds Unoccupied: 25 Covid icu beds occupied: 180 Non covid icu beds occupied: 103
Some people think their hiding those adverse event reports because social media blocks people from telling their story on Twitter, Facebook etc... social media should allow people to shared stories of about losing a child or skin rashes etc..Social Media should be more transparency in allowing people to share their adverse effect. The difference between a big surgery and a little surgery is when the surgery is happening to you. Most parents wouldn’t be willing to risk their children’s life without having that data presented to them.
because what reporting systems can have covid green hulks, its no wonder social media is a bad way to collect data EDIT: When even the news is non-factual on social media idk why this question even needs to be addressed
While I disagree with many of your conclusions I appreciate the even handed analysis. I love hearing from people who dont seem like they're trying to sell me something.
How tf were phase 2 & 3 trials being started half way through phase 1? Doesn't phase 1 need to be successful prior to graduating to phases 2 & 3? Or do I misunderstand the process?
People have to take their own “actions” when they have no other choice.
How do explain doctors in India using IVM, Colchicine (approved drugs, just repurposed) since the pandemic started with huge success in the field? Why ban their use if they have proven safety record.? Even if you are vaccinated you still can get sick and still need some treatment. What are you going to use after the vaccine? You can say use these, they are safe, but they might not work. By the way you have to vaccinate for best protection. Of course at population level it might hurt vaccination rate and ultimately have negative global effect.
Because IVM alone didn’t help or had no effect in India. It’s no longer recommended anywhere.
Are there any studies coming out of Sweden or Norway or any of the countries that didn't shot down and they are doing much better then us ???
Norway shut down initially and was able to open up more later. Sweden didn't shut down initially but was forced to become a lot more stringent later. Sweden couldn't shut down due to legislative issues, that has now been addressed. Sweden early on even got hit harder economically than their Nordic counterparts that did shut down. All Nordics are recovering economically to similar extent. Sweden didn't achieve any herd immunity - had to shut that idea down early because it overwhelmed the system. Sweden has a lot more Covid associated deaths due to their approach, but to no particular good reason - they didn't really benefit at all from it. Why better? Just speculating, but higher trust in the institutions leading to people doing more the right things (no Covid parties due "fake news" insanities going on and less susceptible to all the conspiracy theories overall), higher use of fortified foods, using more additives, healthier life styles (less overweight, obesity, diabetes). Also a well encapsulating social security structure means it's easier to do what's expected. A lot of us lost our jobs for a few months (of course some sectors are still running on reduced capacity but expected to change soon), but it's not the end of the world to the individual - I don't see an eviction crisis coming up here. I don't think I've ever heard about anyone feeling pressurized to meet up for work if they felt unsafe about it (like meat workers in the US). We've been pretty well on masking up and not making anything political. Pandemic fatigue took a lot longer to set it - not a couple of months. And we don't ignore the pandemic just because of holidays - the US labour day travel was higher now than it was pre pandemic. If Mississippi was a country, it would be 4th worst in the world wrt official deaths/capita (which is not a good metric, I agree), with a potential to eventually do worse then #3 and #2. But not #1 (Peru) which now has updated their numbers to match excess deaths. And US is about the worst country in the well developed world of similar wealth and health capabilities. It's not that Nordics did so much better than the US (Japan and most Asian countries did far better than Nordics, at least pre Delta), it's just the cataclysmically bad response by the US government initially where everything was politicized leaving pro Covid governance now for political reasons, combined with a population screaming freedumb for anything related to government actually governing. kzhead.info/sun/ZsWYYLOeaZx4eIU/bejne.html&ab_channel=WhatDaStat
Dr Patrick can you comment on graphene oxide found in all vaccines by the Italian researchers as well as Dr Robert Young
It doesn't contain graphine, it's wrapped in a lipid (fat).
@@dorotasokolowski718 except the microbiologists
Look at ivermectin Tokyo Olympics this is impressive ( it only looks like there is no money in it )
Seheult has a well-rounded opinion on treatments such as ivermectin and should be applauded. Let's study ivermectin fully and then come to an informed decision regarding its efficacy.
Those that do not want the vaccine, it is their freedom of choice to take the risk. I am fully vaccinated, take vitamin. D, C, zinc, quercetin. And have ivermectin as a backup. But I don't feel the need to force others to protect themselves.
The thing is, as I understand it, and I'm certainly not an expert, by getting vaccinated, you reduce the risk of getting Covid and therefore reduce the risk of you spreading it to someone vulnerable. Also, the more people the virus is able to infect, the more it increases the chances of the virus mutating and developing into new variants. And at some point, a new variant could come along that could potentially be even worse than delta.
Thats my formula more or less. I'm vaccinated but also making sure my immune system is well supplied. And maybe the most important, a regular exercise program. During the pandemic, I got into HIIT.
@@Hail_Sagan leaky vaccines are the cause for mutations. You can still get infected, the virus can still replicate and learn how to escape the very vaccine people are taking. Also, vaccinated people have a false sense of confidence. They can be infected, have mild or no symptoms, and be walking around shedding virus unknowingly thinking they just have allergies because there’s no way they can have covid because they took a “safe & effective” vaccine.
I was kind of disappointed by the Ivermectin discussion. I certainly agree with her point that "we need to not sensationalize ... and say things that are not true". To that point, if you are supporting Ivermectin as an addition to Vaccines with the purpose of covering 7 billion people instead of 2-3 billion people and if your primary concern is that Ivermectin is used in a contact-tracing application (or that it is provided to medical staff that have had the vaccine, but get the illness anyway), then most of the claims made by the media are sensationalized. For example, no, we don't think we are horses. No, supporting Ivermectin research does not mean we are anti-vaccine. No, someone taking Ivermectin the day of a positive COVID test should not get the vaccine after testing positive. We have reached the point where the "Democrat side" of the Ivermectin discussion is more anti-science than the "Republican side". With respect to the studies she mentions. She is right that viral days to clear data is much stronger than, for example, ventilator data and so on. She is flat-out wrong when she says that is the strongest evidence. The strongest evidence involves taking of Ivermectin before you are even diagnosed. This data included dosage of medical personnel before vaccines were available and of contacts of new cases, who are found when it is far to late to even think about the disease. In the studies I read, effectiveness as a preventative is around 80% for Ivermectin, which compares to mid to high 90s for Pfizer and Moderna and mid-sixties for JnJ. These are obviously apples to oranges numbers. Effectiveness of Ivermectin is probably 0 if taken six months before, which is when you hope the vaccines would help and effectiveness of the vaccines are zero right before infection, which is when Ivermectin would presumably be used. I have read many studies in which there are confounding variables, but I didn't find ones like what she was talking about where the confounding variables differed between control and test. What I saw instead was the studies were multi-arm (testing multiple treatments at the same time) or the confounding variables were baked into both groups (eg. Ivermectin plus D plus C vs D plus C "placebo" group). Maybe she saw different studies, but without her actually mentioning them, it is hard to say what she was seeing. Also, any discussion of Ivermectin should mention that it has been studied as a broad-spectrum anti-viral since at least 2012 and that there is very interesting in-vitro work concerning Ivermectin's use against Zika, Deng, HIV, and many other viruses. Obviously in-vitro work is far from final, but again, the standard of evidence required for something with hundreds of millions of doses provided and a better safety profile than Aspirin during a pandemic should be considered far lower than the standard of evidence you should provide if you have a new weight loss drug that increases blood pressure and pulse rate. The sad truth is that treatments that can make people billionaires are pushed through quickly while treatments that will make nobody rich and compete with the former languish, are misrepresented by the press, and end up ignored. How many years did it take us to reach consensus on cigarettes and cancer? Do we even have consensus today on saturated fats even though you can reliably give rats diabetes by feeding them saturated fats and this has been shown many times in the lab?
Great job! Thank you for addressing the laymen in a non patronizing yet accessable manner so that we can make an informed decision. This is what is largely missing in the government and mass media response.
Thank you Dr. Rhonda Patrick for sharing your amazing breadth of knowledge. I'm a huge fan and very grateful for all your work. I hope the professional stress and pressure to take sides on various issues created by this Covid chaos, does not infest and damage the formally beautiful relationships between so many also deep and caring thinkers, so many good people out there. I pray all sides of the contentious issues are soon more able to listen earnestly and very carefully for how and when the other's findings might also be true. Together you can make the most honest and meaningful progress against Covid, and future threats.
I wish they used the same logic when they were calculating the covid death rate as they do now when they evaluate the Vaers data.
There is no calculating with covid deaths. When you have taken care of COVID patients in the ICU you will see that there is no question. They come in with shortness of breath that progressive over days. Their chest x-ray then gets bilateral infiltrates that look like really nothing else. They are otherwise doing fine until they aren't and they need a bipap mask then finally get intubated. They desaturate even on that, go into multiorgan failure and then CODE. Pretty slam dunk. You don't need House MD. Death certificate says Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome from Pneumonia from COVID-19. CDC list death as COVID-19 and then Pneumonia and ARDS as comorbidities (like we say in the video). Some docs put down just "COVID-19" on the DC. Then people who don't know how this works go around saying that only a few people actually die from COVID the rest died of pneumonia or ARDS!!! I can't tell you how frustrating it is to us that actually do this for a living. Let the doctors be doctors.
@@rogerseheult1312 Fair enough. It's also frustrating for the epidemiologists of the world (like yours truly) to see how COVID death numbers have been been gamed because of hospital reimbursement. Just as you have seen the horrors of actual COVID deaths, I have seen countless deaths with - and clearly not from - COVID that has led to challenges in understanding the true incidence of mortality related to the disease. I have seen MVAs, gunshot victims, and others counted in COVID mortality totals in a number of raw databases I have analyzed and it is infuriating.
@@dadominate Thats wild dude
Why do we not have all cause mortality data on Covid vaccines?
@MedCram - Medical Lecutures Explained CLEARLY What advise for treatments/preventatives do you guys recommend for folks that have health conditions that are contraindicated for the present vaccines?
I love hearing people have a rational discussion.
Thank you very much Doctors for taking the time to make this informative video. I found it immensely helpful ‼️
Scientists sometimes disagree. I would like to see a discussion between you folks and the weinstein crowd... that discussion would be informative.
Weinstein is saying so many objectively false things I don't think he would discuss with an actual specialist on this subject. It would be embarrassing. I sure wish it could happen though.
@@galvanaut7119 Curious to hear what specific points Weinstein has made that are "objectively false"?
@@galvanaut7119 well, how about Dr. Robert Malone, then? Or Dr. Michael Palmer?
@@galvanaut7119 Great job, keyboard warrior. You’ve really scored a hit on Bret Weinstein! And you did it with mere claims! Good on you.
@@twatts1523 Dr. Pierre Kory would be invaluable to the discussion seeing as he also has exemplary frontline experience and education. To my understanding it was his group that advocated the use of corticosteroids against protocol ... until it became hospital protocol. He would like to do the same with ivm. To see a discussion with both Dr. Seheult and Dr. Kory would be informative to say the least.
Thank you for clearing this up.
Why won't anyone do a controlled study or even a retrospective study of the FLCCC early treatment protocol. Control would be symptomatic people with no treatment for the first week of disease following symptom onset (which is the current standard of care) vs early treatment for 5 days. Compare disease progression, hospitalization rates, death rates, and degree of viral clearance.
There has been an avalanche of data which proved ivermectin remarkable efficacy and safety in Covid 19. This is the very reason Big Pharma launched a ferocious war on it!
@@jinglebells8194 I have to disagree. They danced around the subject. To ignore Pierre Kory and the FLCCC is verging on deception.
@@jinglebells8194 Any disease is treated by a combination of remedies/medications. C19 is an extremely complex disease consisting of 3 phases and 5 stages and needs a stage-specific multi-drug approach. Ivermectin is the only med shown to work safely in each stage. Added to any treatment protocol it was shown to be a core medication as a ‘game changer.’
@@jinglebells8194 I’m a biomedical researcher in Cancer Chemotherapy. So, I’m well versed on on the subject of trials.
The problem is people equate the FLCCC protocol with that of ivermectin only. The reality is they gave a "kitchen sink" approach. For their " I-MASK prevention protocol," they suggest Ivermectin, vitamin D, vitamin C, quercetin, zinc, and melatonin. With the exception of ivermectin, most of these things seem like healthy habits to adopt. They mention taking 0.2mg/kg of ivermectin twice a week for as long as you are exposed to the virus. This is just not feasible. You will likely be exposed daily unless everyone wears a mask. Why would you think it is safe to take ivermectin twice a week indefinitely? All safety data on this drug has been from humans taking it for just a couple of days. Do you think that sounds good to take ivermectin twice a week for the rest of this pandemic? Their "I-MATH hospitalization protocol" also seems interesting also a "kitchen sink" approach but I do think it should be explored. But again, we want to keep people out of the hospital and vaccinations do a good job of this. Having our hospitals fill up with sick COVID patients is a huge problem for all of us who may need healthcare for another reason. It also puts a huge burden on healthcare workers who will be extremely burned out when it comes time to treat anyone else who has a non-COVID heath need.
sad that nobody talked about aspiration while injecting
In the early pandemic dr seheults was the king of stuff that might help but wouldn't hurt. I was taking his other vitamin regiment til I got vaccinated. Of course after I got vaccinated I got covid Pethaps I should have just kept taking NEC
@@tunneling-nanotubes only mild symptoms
Super informative, thanks Rhonda! Now lets browse the comments section and see what the real experts have to say...
Rhonda the concern with the vaccines vs the actual virus also involves a few things that weren't addressed in the video. For starters, the toxicity of the lipid nanoparticles that are used as carriers. Theres a whole published paper on their toxicity especially in animal models due to severe inflammation. That would theoretically compound the inherent inflammatory response induced by the actual mRNA strand in ADDITION to the spike proteins that are produced as a result. Then you have concerns about the potential loss of proteostasis after a number of doses of these vaccines. Could there be cases where cells after being bombarded numerous times with the mRNA lose their ability to cease production of the spike protein after some time? That is a signficant potential risk considering how delicate immune systems can be and the possible resulting consequences to health.
THANK YOU
What a public service! Thank you for clearing the muddy waters.
The question I have and I am sure many others have is, what are possible longer term ramifications of taking the vaccine? That is the concern most of us have. Are these doctors concerned about what could happen in the longer term? I also would have thought this interview would have been much more interesting if someone who saw things differently, a different outcome were present? There is the problem with both sides of the argument when there are no challenges. The reason I believe is simple, neither of these doctors would be willing to do so and the interviewer would have found his interview taken down.
In the history of all vaccines, there has never been a long-term vaccine effect after 2 months. With a billion people worldwide fully vaccinated we would no about these potential effects. mRNA vaccines have been studied in humans since 2001. Again, no data that I have seen suggesting long-term effects. In contrast, we knew immediately about the long-term effects of COVID-19.
Most compelling, thanks
Thank you for this.
key point: Dr Seheult: Referencing people in the 20-s and 30-s: "they are coming in with with very few co-morbidities'..... Thats the problem. Lets address the fact that most Americans have underlying health conditions due to the standard American diet. Please find a person who has good metabolic health in the same situation vs. those whom are metabolically sick already and just needed this virus to push them over the edge.
I think vitamin deficiencies in young people are common… vitamin D, C mainly…
You're missing the point that we need to prevent people from dying from covid so that we have the opportunity to help them make healthy lifestyle changes.
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@kasper Allison “very few comorbidities” cannot be glossed over… 2 or more comorbidities is still indicative of a relatively unhealthy person. I don’t understand how Dr Seheult just glosses over this and minimizes it. I’d like to know how many healthy adults in their 20’s with zero comormidities are showing up on ICUs (my guess is it’s an extremely low number of people)
@@Meru112 Just from my close circle I know two. My cousin with ZERO preexisting conditions, fit and just 42 years old now has just 30% of his lungs working likely for life. Another person I know is a surfer, that had mild symptoms and now is suffering from long covid. The DATA is freaking clear that vaccines have a risk/reward factor way way way better then risking getting the virus.
If we toned down the whole “ we need to jab everyone” there might be more acceptance of the vaccines
I would be interested in knowing if the brain scan comparisons were done in people that vaccinated and did not get COVID
Zelenko Protocol
Zelenko is still really good!
30:00 It is unfair to equate plamsa half-lives to biological half-lives. Given nanoscale size of the cationic lipid particle debris, microcellular data may be more relevant that macrocellular data. What effect do agglutinated cationic lipid nanoparticles have on mitochondrial membranes? Do agglutinated cationic lipid nanoparticles have an effect on the endoplasmic reticulum or proteins, or other cellular contents during mitosis and the opening of the nuclear envelope? 37:05 This is obviously over a short time frame. I am interested in outcomes over 5 years. If the young and relatively healthy exchange mitochondrial damage for humoral antibodies, they may regret their decision after several years (especially now that it is being widely acknowledged that the virus is endemic).
You can take a look at the animal literature on mRNA vaccines used over the last ten years. I have not seen any data to suggest that any of these things occur. Please link a peer-reviewed study if you find one.
This is in a way high quality film but with a lot of weak points. Please distiguish people with perfect health, from those with 1-2 co-morbidites and those with 3+ comorbidities. I prefer to get infected with "the real stuff" (and use IVM) so I know I have the broadest protection and can feel safe when I get old. I am 71 years young. Come on, I am not afraid.
We are just now getting studies on the long term effects of COVID-19 and it isn't good.
This is the most helpful talk I’ve listened too that takes away some real concerns I’ve had about these Covid vaccines, especially for my children and grandchildren, I’ve seen some awful neurological symptoms in videos of people after they got the vaccines with non stop shakes. Some lost control of their legs.
I enjoyed listening to this video with both Doctors and Kyle
Is there any risk of vaccination to those with damaged or weakened nervous systems?
Im curious as well
Thank you for sharing your expertise with the world. It has been very informative. Is there a scientific explanation for the drop off in covid cases in places like Uttar Pradesh and Delhi, India? I’m not a scientist but it seems that whatever these states are doing, works.
Any ideas on myocarditis mainly in under 20's, not over 50's, mostly male and why more deaths in men?
Men in generally are more likely to get myocarditis, which involve both heart physiology and testosterone. It is why we see high rates of myocarditis in men from things like the Flu and Covid...if not after many medical procedures in general.
I really appreciate that these Drs are combining their educated science,data based knowledge and experience. To educate people about the reality of the covid virus. & treatment of & hopefully 🙏 prevention of infection. Or rather, minimising the effects there of.
You guyz never disappoint.
It seems to me that Dr. Seheult mischaracterized the British study's (the last graph he shows in the video) numbers regarding vaccine and death after the Delta wave. From my understanding the Delta was never more deadly. It is more transmissible
At 2:12 Dr. Roger Seheult says he is seeing patients in their 30s and 20s "with very few comorbidities, maybe just a little bit overweight". I wish he had more precise data. Is he seeing healthy people, not overweight, and no comorbidities?
they're probably vegan
Per the CDC, as of 09/11/21 there have been only 439 CRD's in the US of people 0 - 17 YOA. This is over the course of 21 months, or 21 CRD's per month. That's only 0.4 CRD's/month/state. Considering that number in relation to the enormity of any individual US state, does it seem logical that there is a critical need to vaccinate any of these children?
Outstanding. Thank you.
Thank you for all you're doing to keep us informed!
Miss informed you mean
Government funding for covid positive cases clearly has an impact on your graphs. Who's taking samples of people immune systems for values of vitamin deficiencies so you can plot a more illustrative picture where those deficiencies trend towards increased risks?
Exactly. But we can’t talk about that right? There has been a ton of study and info put out about mitigating risk by keeping Vit D levels above 30 ng/ml. But it’s absolute crickets so far from the media and I haven’t heard much about it recently from these doctors either.
You people wouldn't believe anything except want you want to believe. 600 million have been vaccinated with billions wishing they were .
@@jpuhlick3712 lol. Some of us are just cautious about a vaccine that is less than one year old and does not have a long history of studies, especially considering it was never FDA approved on release. I am remiss to trust the CDC or government in this current era given their alarming censorship of longstanding and tested alternatives like ivermectin, that have been widely proven effective. No need to be irritable, you're safe being inoculated with the vaccine. Please respect everyone's right to free thought and opinion, despite your own convictions.
Thank you so much for this video! It is amazing content and I refer to it when discussing COVID with others. Would it be possible to find all the references used somewhere easily accessible?
Hey I don`t think this was on this interview video, but has there been any follow up or peer review of the study from Israel showing reinfection immunity of people who were naturally infected vs people who had two shots of vaccine? I don't have a stake in the matter, but found it very interesting.
There is a therapeutic in phase 3 clinical trials for a nebulizer treatment and completed phase 3 for its IV form. The name of this medication is aviptadil, a naturally occurring neuropeptide. The FDA should allow emergency use for this safe and effective treatment. The risk is low for most people who get the jab as the doctor points out. The world also needs treatments that work too. Emphasis on vaccines should not mean that therapeutic be suppressed
Part of the question that should be scrutinized is whether or not the tens of billions of dollars that Pfizer Moderna and big pharma is making would be jeopardized if other theapeutics were discovered to be effective. Sadly, imo money is the driving factor and if other treatments threaten EUA, it would not be surprising if it was suppressed. Look at Fauci's handling during the AIDS disaster and his favoring of a single approach AZT while discounting and undermining other treatments at the loss of countless lives ... for money.
@@personalperspective vaccines will always be the primary method of addressing a pandemic.
@@lowroad4257 I am not sure where anyone said they wouldn't or shouldn't be?
@@personalperspective you are stating that other therapeutic approaches are being suppressed in order to promote the vaccine. My understanding is that multiple approaches are being used to treat the disease but being vaccinated will always be the first line of defense.
@@lowroad4257 I am stating that any form of therapeutic approaches should not be suppressed and should be given thorough consideration but imo financial or other motivations may impair that. I am stating that if Merck's cheap off patent medication is effective it would likely imho not be given a level playing field considering that Merck receives and has received a $1.2 billion dollar government contract for a new oral antiviral. The question of vaccine efficacy is separate from this altogether.
I would love to see these MDs grill Fauci.
Interesting discussion but my mother has come down with myocarditis, tachycardia, and arrhythmias after getting the jab. We're using a pulse oximeter to measure it several times daily. She's been put on a calcium channel blocker but it appears to have little or no effect. Anyone else experiencing this? Buy a pulse oximeter and test yourselves. Get one with a visual saw-tooth type wave form display on it. That detail isn't a gimmick and seems a lot more informative.
I hope she improves quickly. Myocarditis after vaccination (according to the data) is usually in young males. Hope she gets better soon - most do.
Actually have the doctor look at her thyroid. Those symptoms sound like she may have hyperthyroidism.
Glad this is back up!
Dr. Patrick.....What would your response be to this statement: The current vaccine was formulated with the original Wuhan strain of the Covid-19 virus. The immune response stimulated by the vaccine is ineffective against the delta, mu, and future strains/mutations of the covid-19 virus. Also, please comment on the experience of high vaccination percentage countries like Israel, the UK, and now the US - where breakthrough infection rates are exploding.
The vaccine limits severe symptoms. If you just look at data for hospitalizations it's around 90% unvaccinated people in the hospital. If that doesn't convince you that the vaccine is effective, nothing will. If you're scared of the vaccine, like Rhonda Patrick said, you should be absolutely terrified of getting COVID-19.
Nurses, pharmacists, techs, etc, are not aspirating the needle when puncturing the deltoid muscle to check if they are inside of a blood vessel or not. We nurses are taught to do this in nursing school, but the CDC, FDA, WHO state that is not necessary. So what happens when the mRNA encapsulated in lipid is allowed to enter the blood stream and be distributed systemically? Why are we seeing so many instances of myocarditis, pericarditis, thrombosis, thrombocytopenia, etc with these vaccines? Why don't we eliminate that variable and make sure that these vaccines stay in the deltoid and do not distribute throughout the bloodstream?
Even giving insulin you withdraw the plunger to check if get blood. There are capillaries in deltoid muscle.
Great update .. THANKS !!!!
Hospitalization Rate {with} Covid vs Hospitalization Rate (due to) Covid. Using the former, one could say: patients have Covid b/c they are in the hospital.
Just a question on the math of the graph at 3:55...Since the older population had already been burned through, and they were later more widely vaccinated, and "hospitalizations" has kind of lost meaning, wouldn't the ratios by necessity begin to close, independent of absolute numbers?
I feel like during the first year of the pandemic a lot of information was met with gatekeepers. And the doctors and experts that were in the media were bad at explaining the information to people with no medical background. Why did it take so long for people to explain probability to average people? You have to educate people at their level. A lot of the American science community is very ego driven.
No it was flat out data corruption and manipulation. Does no one remember the Lancet HCQ study anymore at the start of the pandemic? You know the one where all the data and a massive amount of it at that, was altered to demonize HCQ and the Lancet published it. Then for the first time ever retracted a study, that one. But conveniently not till after a whole month later when the narrative HCQ was useless had set in. Can't have an effective treatment that already has safety studies if you want to have emergency use authorization for experimental vaccines. It's literally against the law.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep are you saying you think hydrochloriquine is a treatment that is useful? I think what happened is that what the experts said was correct-hydrochloriquine is useless against Covid.
@@lowroad4257 No the context of comment wasn't about if HCQ was useful at all. I was making a different point. But hell yes I would say it's useful. You are joking right? There are like 250+ studies now showing almost across the board HCQ is effective against Covid.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep read “Effect of a hydrochloriquine on hospitalization for a Covid 19” in JAMA April 22, 2021.
Another thing to consider when trying to analyze harm signals, to my knowledge there is no informed consent on side effects. When people don't know the common side effects it would be difficult to report. For example my neighbor had a blood clot in her arm within the first month of vaccination that was significant enough that her arm was stuck at 90 degrees. Maybe it was coincidence, but given the clotting issues known from the vaccines it would have been worth investigating. Many of my friends parents are having eye problems, once again I'm familiar with some of the VAERS data, they are not, and these potential reports are going undocumented. Lethargy is apparently a common side effect of covid19 and the vaccine due to mitochondrial damage; I'm hearing these issues discussed among people post vaccination as well as post covid19 infection and most do not know it could be vaccine related as well as long covid symptoms. I could go on about heart complications, and strokes post vaccination in stories that are coming back. It does seem like adverse events are highly underreporting.
great video and thanks for the time stamps
Hi Dr. Rhonda. As usual, very informative video. Thanks heaps for this channel. By the way, I’ve been watching/listening to most of your videos/podcasts regarding health, fitness, nutrition and longevity. I’ve been contemplating on a sauna membership (apart from gym membership) even buying my own infra-red sauna. Just a quick question. From your lectures, sauna has a lot of benefits - from vasodilation & increased blood flow to increased HSP, BDNF & activated FOXO3 gene etc. I’m just torn between literatures saying it will prevent ED and will improve sexual health on one hand and another side saying it will decrease your sperm count and sperm motility because you’re always under constant high temperatures. So what can you advise regarding this matter? Thanks again and more power. Cheers.
Priceless information and analysis. Thank you so much.
First graph is not amount of deaths per age. It’s distribution % of deaths. Sum of ratios for all ages is 1,00 in all graphs.las graph does not compare vaccine X non vaccine, it compares a more lethal wave with a less lethal wave, doesn’t exclude possibility of most fragile people having died in the first wave.
Bottom line is that it is affecting younger people than before. That was the question to be answered.
Thank you for this! Question - perhaps a silly one: Do breakthrough cases still have the same nasty lingering effects from the virus (long covid)?
Hey hope you don't mind an answer from someone not on the podcast. Sure that can happen, its most likely to happen to older people who's immune system doesn't always produce the best response from a vaccine or from people who are immune compromised/ taking immune suppressing medication.
You mentioned the long-haul symptoms, is it known yet what people with any or, perhaps, many of these symptoms can do to improve their condition? I found a video at MedCram (on youtube) from back in June called 'Long covid Treatment, Symptoms and Recovery (Long Haulers)' that did answer some questions.
I'm in the same boat, it would seem rest is the only thing that really works, exercise and stress seem to inflame us. It would 'seem' long covid has a very similar symptomology to Myalgic-encephalomyelitis, there's some basic support groups available. Some people with ME benefit from some things, but just as many feel they regress taking the same thing. It's an umbrella diagnosis at this stage.
We live two hours south of Sydney, NSW, Australia and are currently in lock down. Thankfully our vaccination uptake has been extraordinary and we are 54% vaccinated in the state of NSW, 38.2% as a country as a whole, which has been fantastic given we were around 7% in June, 2021 in NSW. Recently, our government has offered vaccination as an option for the 12-15 year old age group. We have a son who will be 12 in January and our daughter has just turned 14. Could you please do another segment with Roger Seheult discussing vaccination risks versus benefits for children? When Dr. Patrick spoke about the Bio-Bank study how how MRI brain scans showed the reduction of grey matter after covid exposure whether it be mild or severe covid, it made me wonder if children 15 and under were also susceptible to this grey matter loss because of the nature of The Delta variant? Dr. Rhonda Patrick also mentioned in the Singapore study that "initial breakthrough viral loads were similar with vaccinated and unvaccinated people, but vaccinated people cleared the viral loads faster than the unvaccinated." Could you speak to the research in regards to children of this 12-15 year old age group and younger to help parents understand if our children are also similar to the vaccinated population, in that they have such high levels of interferon, that they may have an initial viral loads that are similar to the vaccinated and unvaccinated? Due to high interferon levels, I would imagine that they would clear viral loads faster just like the vaccinated adult population? Could you please do a segment specifically for kids and parents of this age group? We are trying to help our 14 year old daughter weigh the risks and benefits of the Pfizer vaccine given that she is concerned how the vaccine may affect her health in the future, but also she wants to protect the vulnerable in our social group as she has a friend who is a type one diabetic, a senior friend in her late sixties, who has a kidney transplant, as well as a father who is a cancer survivor. The messaging has been confusing for parents as Dr. Fauci in the U.S. strongly recommends vaccination for the 12-15 year age group and JCVI in the U.K. states the vaccination in this age group for healthy children with no underlying health conditions has a slight benefit when compared to the risks. Therefore, the JCVI did not recommend vaccination for the 12-15 year old age group. It is so confusing for parents as there is so much mixed messaging around the world and we are trying to weight up research with risk to benefit to help our children. We just wonder if kids are much like the vaccinated because of their superior immune response and interferon levels, thus possibly contributing to a lower transmission rate and less chance of severe disease? Lockdown ends at the end of October for our state and then Covid is for the first time going to be prevalent in our community here and frankly, we are feeling uneasy. Thank you so much for your time as I have really enjoyed listening to your research and taking the time to educate people like myself who have a very limited understanding of science based information. I LOVE your channel and have become a science nerd. Keep up the good work! Regina from country NSW, Australia
Why dont you review Dr. Tess Laurue analysis???
Thank you all so much for taking time to give us such a thorough, scientific Q&A. I appreciated the studies you cited as well as sharing the logical process you followed to reach your conclusions. Refreshing.