SURPRISE: Fujifilm X-T50 Coming with This All New Dial
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Film simulations matter, but you can program a button or command dial for that. I think a dial dedicated to film sims is a waste of space.
You can argue that for almost any other function as well. I'd prefer iso dial but they don't want to eat into xt5 sales I guess.
I’m so glad that I didnt wait for this and recently purchased the XT-30ii…I’m also purchasing the XT-5 shortly. With the price hike I dont know why anyone would want the XT-50 moving forward.
LOL Just.. wow. I can't believe this didn't drop on April 1st.
I had the exact same though!!!! Now it is just a May 1st fool's day
Well, that settles it. I wouldn't even dream of buying this camera now. IMHO, that film sim dial seems as stupid a choice as the Q button position on the X-T30. I am so glad I still have my X-T20 :)
yeah such a shame, id love the joystick on the xt30 but that q position is a bit daft
You're right, the X-T20 was the best camera in the X-Txx series, unfortunately I sold it...
@@StefanoA128 maybe pick up one used someday. I bought an olympus recently from around the same year as my xt20 to consider replacing it and its not a bad camera but I dont think its in the xt20's league for a lot of things, a fabulous camera
I have the feeling this dial will eventually gain believers once it´s out
Indeed, profile dial on olympus Pen F also has a solid fan base
I'd like Fuji to add the ability of using a custom recipe for the in-camera raw converter.
agreed. it makes so much sense, since the xraw studio uses the camera's processing power anyway
Yes, that would be useful.
I misread the title initially and thought it said deal. I was hoping for a better price 😂
Wow, I could not have imagined that Fuji would build in such a deal breaker into the X-T50. The previous dial was much more useful and this being uncustomizable makes the X-S20 a no brainer. It's much lower in price too! I was kind of considering to buy the X-T50 as the cool small retro camera instead of the X-S20 but taking a dial away from actual photography is such a let down. I get it that film sims are a big deal but you can even change them after the shot is taken but you can't change the shooting mode. This was the first thing I changed on my X-S10, switched the left dial from film sims to ISO and film sims would likely not be even in my top 10 choice for this dial setting.
Shooting drive modes aren't changed as often. My professional cameras (A1, Z9, Z8) I often don't change the shooting drive mode. The z8 puts them on a button as well. I think I'd prefer an iso dial but it would be too similar to Xt5 I guess.
@@nitni0002 Everyone has their preferences and I'm sure that the X-T50 film sim dial will find it's niche. I'm just very surprised what's stopping Fuji from adding an X-S20 dial instead to make everyone happy. Adding 10 different metallic dial stickers could be a fun bonus :) i.e. one for film sims, ISO, drive mode, etc.
Looks like the dials as in the X-S20. That SOOC (straight out of camera) feature via Film simulation is for me also really a time safer, and beside this, makes a lot of fun.
But that doesn't answer the "why a dedicated dial?" question. We can already assign a button or use the Q menu to bring up film sims
@@NJM1948 The same I can say for the ISO dial or any other dial. The ISO is a button next to the Q Button, which is perfect, if I see a need to change ISO. Since I can set minimum shutter speed with ISO automatic there is no need to change often the ISO. Whereas changing the filmsimulation, without taking my eyes away from EVF is really helpful. With liveview I see directly which simulation is the best for actual situation. And beleave me, this I use on a daily base. No Canon, Nikon or Sony give me this creative eay to get my own look of my photos.
@@DrCharly2008 Yes, but those dials you mentioned are needed for exposure - films sims are for jpag shooters who want their images to be processed in the camera. Ask RAW shooters if they use film sims in camera and all will say no....because you cannot assign a film sim to a RAW image in camera. You can always add film sims in post edit if you so desire. A dedicated dial is just not a good idea on an otherwise serious camera
@@DrCharly2008iso is far more useful than film sims
People gush over the film sims and the second Fuji actually leans into their most unique feature they get lambasted lmao
The issue with existing Fuji users is that they are existing Fuji users :) They don't look at a camera from the viewpoint of a new buyer. Fuji need products that have a Unique Selling Point, something that attracts *NEW* people to their range of cameras. This means more cameras and better returns for Fuji and we all benefit from future investment in the range as a result. Quite why existing users don't get that this is a good thing is a mystery to me.
I have a button dedicated to selecting film simulations. No big deal imo
Fuji is definitely targeting those who are interested in the 100V/VI, but are offering them a way to try different lenses and apply the Fuji colors they're always hearing about.
You don't need a gimmicky dedicated film sim dial to get the fuji colours though!!!
Those who are interested in the x100 will only buy the x100. People don't want the other fugly cameras that Fuji makes.
This dial most add the additional costs of €500,-. And I would just miss the drive modes, that I use on a regular basis. Don't care about Film Simulations as I shoot 99% RAW and it can be easily accessed via the q-button and the customs settings on every Fuji camera I own.
Seems the X100VI hype has Fuji feeling confident about their pricing strategy. I’m not sure that will carry over to all cameras.
If this is as the expense of the drive dial I'm not interested. I already find the 40 MP a pill, given that 24 MP or 26 MP are already overkill for most uses of digital images.
I was over years, when I used Canon and Sony equipment RAW shooter. Always spent a lot of time afterwards to get the Look of my photos I want. Changing to Fuji my workflow changed dramatically. Cause I see durectly how the Photos will look like and in 90% I get straight out of camera what I want. I still have all the RAWs beside the JPEGs if I am not satisfied with my SOOC results. So if necessary I can spent later hours of time to change Film simulation without of seeing live if my result fits what I feel/thought during my live photo shooting. So this film simulation wheel beside EV wheel (aperture and manual focus at the lens) are the Real elements I need, while I observe my motive/target, without taking my eyes from the camera EVF.
Glad I went with the x-h2 instead of waiting. Can’t wait to try this one out as well!
gosh I want to see the screen side of the XT-50!
The price hike means I’ve just impulse bought an X-T30ii rather than waiting for the X-T50
and you will have an inferior camera in 2 years, congrats.
I also admit that some of my initial enthusiasm has gone now that I have heard the price of the X-T50 and also that it will use the older battery. I am also not sure about the merits of the 40mp sensor because I suspect that it might have more rolling shutter problems. My X-T30 will be in use for a bit longer I guess. Jerry
@@michael2968 The camera won't be inferior in any way, it will still be just as good as the day it was bought. People made world changing images with cameras since their creation. The X-T30II will suit them just fine, quit yer griping :'D
@@michael2968 I disagree.
@pascal7934 right. I have an xt3 and it will be an amazing camera for years to come.
Now I’m really interested in purchasing this XT50. Can’t wait till May 16. I’m losing sleep at night. I can’t stop thinking about this camera. 😢
This dial killed any appeal this camera might have had. I can’t imagine a more useless functionality to devote to an entire dial
@@josephk1342 I hear ya. I usually don't use the presets that often. I guess Fuji says its worth a whole dial.
This is the first comment I have seen that says you would actually now buy the camera because of that dial!!!!
Fujifilm must stop distorting the ergonomics and buttons of the cameras with each new version. I don't like the price and I don't even like the change of the dial. I want an Iso dial.
Xpro4 and 50r II is what the people desire, Fujifilm. Listen to your customers.
Well, yes, but the XT50 is what I desire as a 2nd camera.....but not with thad bloody awful silly sim dial
@Nightwatch1986 Fuji know from their past sales figures what sells. You think Fuji don't do market research? How would you know what customers desire?
We need iso dial instead of film simulation dial
i guess it's not exactly a film simulation dial.. but yes iso is better
I set the film simulation selection to a custom button and use it basically the same as a custom settings profile. As long as you can set it to change exposure/AF settings per-simulation then this is great.
If I cannot set this silly film sim dial to another function then it will probably be a deal breaker. I won't make that decision though until I find out everything about this camera from the X Summit and climb down from the ceiling!!!!
As far as I know, by default out of the box the top left dial on the X-S10 was also set to film simulations... is teh X-T50 dial different?
Yes it is going to be different...according to Patrick. The X-S10 has a blank top dial dedicated to film sims, but it is blank and you can customise it. I have mine set to focus mode
Do we know if it's at all possible to re-map this dial? I know it has the sims physically printed on it so I'm not hopeful but if it turns continuously in both directions you should be able to map it to iso. I think I would actually quite like that.
No one complains about the changed grip! I guess it's an improvement? Camera optically seems bulkier.
Hmm. A PASM dial on the XT series perhaps? It sounds like the default settings of an XS20.
Don’t mind a sub menu for the sims, but a dial? The one card slot is a non starter for me anyway
Thanks Patrick for this channel. With your information I could pre-order both the X-H2 and X-S20:) Regarding film simulations: If you have contact with Fujifilm, PLEASE ask if we could replace some of the built-in simulations with our custom recipes. The custom setting slots are way too precious to waste on simply using a recipe. For instance, I don't need Sepia or the 4 monochrome sims. I could replace those with my own. Using a NEW version of X RAW STUDIO, we could create a recipe, add a short description and save it to one of the slots so we can use them the same way we use the built-in ones. Imagine being to *film* using a Kodak or any other recipe. Of course we would be able to restore any slots to their original sim. I hope this gets some traction.
And PLEASE Patrick, ask them to make the film sim dial blank and re-assignable
I shoot in JPEG and raw. I rarely even look at the raw files. Will Lightroom do the same thing that capture one does when shooting raw?
Lightroom has improved how it handles Fuji, but capture one is still better. If you're just doing basic tweaks use Fuji's Raw Studio.
Looking at all of the comments, it does appear to be a silly mistake to put this gimmicky dial on an otherwise serious camera. In my opinion, if Fuji wants to go down this road, then it would make far more sense to leave it for the upcoming XE5 I know this is wishful thinking, but it would be a good move to announce the specs of a new camera in advance so that they can take input from their customers. If they had done this before starting acutal manufacture of the XT50, then that silly film sim dail would never have seen the light of day
Thanks for sharing the rumors Patrick. Does it mean one of the existed dials (exposure compensation or shutter speed or mod dial) will be replaces with this new film simulation dial will be a new additional one somewhere on top pr back the camera?
the drive dial is gone in favor of this one
@@FujiRumorsOfficial Do you know if the drive dial will have it's own button instead? Seriously bad move to replace the dial but a dedicated button would be some compensation
I wish they would add a dial option for White Balance Compensation!! I don't know how many times I have been in a situation where I need a shot, the light is tricky and the white balance is crazy. To be able to alter it on the fly quickly by rotating a dial would be amazing!
best way to do this would be to allow the dial to do anything and have a button cycle through different adjustments for the dial. But otherwise, I never do WBC on my camera since it's so easy to fix in post anyway.
I wish Fuji would make the exposure compensation dial programmable. As a manual shooter, I have never used this dial for its designated purpose. I wish I could set this dial for switching thru sims and recipes. This is my only gripe with Fuji cameras. Love Fuji and your videos. Keep it up!
As a manual shooter I use it for ISO.
@@JackBurton-qp4hcI can’t find any info on how to program the exposure compensation dial to iso, let alone anything else. As far as I can see it’s only functional in a priority mode. I shoot fully manual with an XT3 and an XT5 and the dial doesn’t do anything. Can you share a link in this thread as to how to program the exposure compensation dial? I would love to be able to use it for something. Thank you Jack. Hope you’re having a great day :)
@@Loki_Highlock Manually setting shutter and aperture means that changing EC can only change ISO. Hence the dial becomes ISO. Keep ISO auto and use EC to change it as required.
@@JackBurton-qp4hc thank you Jack. So yes, shooting with auto iso would mean that the exposure compensation dial would work for its intended purpose, but only for its intended purpose. Perhaps I should have been more specific. As someone who shoots fully manual the dial is rendered useless. I set my own iso, shutter speed and aperture. Therefore the exposure compensation dial does nothing. It would be nice to be able to program that dial to something else (like film sims for example) as the dial is useless if one shoots in full manual.
@@Loki_Highlock I am curious. Why wouldn't you use the EC dial to set the ISO to tweak the correct exposure after you have set the desired shutter and aperture?
give us more info gfx100s ii ?
LOVE IT!!!
i think the concept can appeal to a lot of casual shooters, but practically speaking if you set up some 'film recipes' via the custom settings, the dial would not be that useful anyway. plus, then it would take more steps if you want to use continous shooting instead of single, or move to video, etc.
A film simulator dial... that justifies the Price... in reality, Perhaps pricing it so close to the X-T5 is to drive sales of the X-T5. Or Fuji is just now focusing on the upper mainstream market, and higher
Or maybe later, they slowly turning into Leica
Film sim dial? Did that reminds me of X-T200 and X-S10?
At least on the X-S10 it was a blank dial which you could assign to something else
that's the biggest waste of real estate on a camera if i have ever seen one....
silly dial, really, seems they did no inquiry before that decision i am so glad i got me the x-t5 last year
t would be a good move to announce a new camera in advance so that they can take input from their customers on what they would like to see. If they had done this then that silly film sim dail would never have seen the light of day
i find the sims dial less of a deal breaker than the price, if im honest. It's definitely an odd choice, but it depends on what it replaces. I have really been looking forward to the release of the xt50, to replace my xt30 as an everyday carry. However, the latest set of rumours have depressed me if im honest. Looks like i will have to wait a few years and buy 2nd hand. 😢
F-ing hell! I was hopeful about the x-t50, but now it's one disaster announced after another. Fujifilm is becoming like the youtuber that starts to get some audience and completely lose its identity in favour of more followers.
Totally agree. It wouild have made more sense to hold back with this dial and put it on the upcoming XE5 in my opinion
it's cool. you can also do the same from the quick menu
And I wish they had kept it on the Q menu instead of putting this ludicrous gimmicky dial on top!!!
I own a XS10 and it has a dial dedicated to film simulations.
Yes, and I would not be so disappointed with one the XT50.......if it was the same as the X-S10 - blank and re-assignable
A dial for that is so dumb, you can already press a button and scroll for your simulation
technically speaking, one could say EVERY dial is dumb, because everything could be controlled by pressing a button and turning a command dial or moving the AF joystick If a company assigns a dial to a certain feature, it is because it thinks it appeals to certain customers. Fujifilm has dedicated ISO/Shutter/Aperture dial/rings, because it thinks it makes sense for their audience. SONY and CANON thing Fujifilm is dumb and those dials are useless, hence they avoid to put them on their cameras. And evidently Fujifilm now also thinks, that adding a film simulation dial is a good idea. The market will tell if it was a right move or not
@FujiRumorsOfficial It's not the same to change de exposure as to change a color profile that you can also control in post-processing. You only have one opotinity to expose the image, it's way more important
@@FujiRumorsOfficial Really? You're going to come in with "Shutter dial is just as dumb as film sims dial" ? Film sims are a fun gimmick which does not change shot to shot. Other functions literally enable correct exposure and routinely change shot to shot and under duress. Kinda tanking your credibility.
XS-20 has the left dial by default set to change film simulations. Is this a different dial?
the X-S20 dial is custombizable... the dial on X-T50 is reserved for Film Simulations only and it will have the film simulation options printed on it (the X-S20 dial has nothing printed on it)
@@FujiRumorsOfficial Thanks for the clarification
@@FujiRumorsOfficial on my X-S10, i could not change the left dial, it was for film sims only,
totally agree with your description of wedding photography 😂 I was only doing an indoor/outdoor event yesterday for 2 hrs, rooms were dark, then go go outside at mid day, then a another room with open windows...nightmare... wedding photographer s you rock!
@@MariusHanzakPhotogNo you can change that dials function, I have it set to focus mode on my X-S10
Xt100 had the top left dial default was film simulation
Tethering suport? or still no tethering suport for this series?
It's an entry/second camera.
@@mipmipmipmipmip that doesnt answer the question... my Nikon D5300 is a entry level camera and does suport tethering.
New news about x-pro4 ?
Don’t hold your breath. As much as I want a new xpro camera I seriously doubt we will see one anytime soon if ever. If they do I’m sure it will be waaay more than the xpro3.
Yup Xpro 4 coming early 2025 maybe end of 2024- rumor has it. Maybe I should wait for it….seriously!
@@saucelove Me too!!! But I wanted the XT50 to be a small carry around baby brother to the XT5 - not sure I could have an XPro as a 2nd camera though!!!
Taking the piss with the price.
I will remap it asap
assuming you can right? those top dials aren't remapable and on top of that with the graphics applied it won't be intuituve either. I love small cameras and I might have considered it but at that price and with a stupid dial taking place of a second useful one no chance.
@@vrapan Yes indeed a stupid dial. I hope they make it so you can customise it. The top dial on my XS10 is a blank film sim dial that I have re-assigned to focus mode....so it is possible to re-assign top dials, but it seems as they are adamant about having this numpty feature which you cannot change. This will be a deal breaker for many RAW shooters
Olympus Pen-F style.
The marketing departement killed Fuji's soul. We should be glad we still have one classic photographer camera left with the XT5 lol
film simulations have one of the highest values in the fuji system.
Only with jpeg shooters - RAW shooters are annoyed
Next wedding May 11
They overdue it with the film simulations imo.
It's a fad - like presets!! For those who want them (Jpeg shooters mostly) then assign a button....simples - just don't ruin an otherwise nice looking camera
So the film simulation dial is what Fuji can use to justify the price hike? This signalizes a significant change of the identity of the X-Tx0 line, from a compact serious camera to a toy camera that aims primarily to please the tiktok crowd.
Indeed. This company has changed... A lot
I’m confused how you think this is now a toy camera? The film sims are one of the biggest selling points of fujis in general
stop crying, nobody else affects YOUR photography.
@@danieldavis6316 A good photographic tool should prioritize its dials for core functions, and there is not a lot of space on the compact X-T50 body for external controls. Which dial is the film sim dial going to replace, exposure compensation, drive mode? There are already other core functions which could benefit from a dial, e.g., ISO settings. The film sims are only popular on social media and is a marketing apparatus. The ability to customize the look of the jpeg image is a plus, but who needs to constantly switch among 12 film sim settings? The novelty quickly disappears after you play with them, and you most likely only need one, two or three of them. Where do all the colorful film sim images end up with? On social media only. They don't appear in serious photographic publications, competitions, photographers' portfolio, etc. Why? There needs a certain consistency in the appearance of photographs, and switching among many film sims destroy it. Still the majority of pros and serious hobbyists use the RAW format for which film sims are irrelevant. There is no great photographer who plays with film sims. Even in the film days, they just settled on whatever film they liked the best. I'm not judging the X-T50. Just saying it represents a change in direction. Incidentally, the last company that put a film sim switch on a camera was Olympus on the PEN-F, and everyone knows how that story ended...
@@michael2968 Idiot response.
Hello! Firmware 6.0 broke my xh2s, It literally can't focus, no matter what settings i'm using, i've tested it with fuji 33 mm 1.4 wr, viltrox 13 mm 1.4, fringer ii adapter sigma 18-35, it hunts non stop, it's seriously bugged! They destroyed the cameras autofocus! It's absolutely unusable! Really disappointed! What should i do? We need Fujifilm to patch this firmware asap!!!
Is this Japanese camera made in Japan? Asking for a friend...
Not a chance! It will be made in the new factory in China
Too expensive. Keep paying these prices and these companies will continue to take advantage of their customers. Last camera i got is the XE4, I'm cool with that, no more cameras for me. I also own the XT1, X70 and X100f, happy with the images these cameras produce.
...they can't be serious? That would make the likely price of a new X-Pro4 - if it ever gets released - nearer 3500euro! Sony, I'm coming... welcome to my new full frame camera!
Overpriced, even with the dedicated film simulation button. Like the battery is not upgraded! Hope they have other news that can surprise positively, otherwise it's quite a disappointment Let's see what the premiere day brings. Had otherwise expected to upgrade, but will probably have to wait 1-2 years for the prices to drop.
I wish it was just a dedicated button and not a dial!!
an other new fujifilm camere as the x100vi that nobody can buy becouse it exists only on paper and not in shops
Film simulations may be important to Fuji. Price is important to me. Thus I will not experience Fuji’s film simulations button. C’est la vie. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
As a Fuji user who loves the Fujifilm sims, this dial is a waste of space in my opinion.
As an existing user I tend to agree (unless I can customise the settings). However as a marketing tool to entice new users to Fuji, it is genius idea. A new user being able to select the sim without menu diving and see the resulting live view image on the LCD is clever.
Oh, dear. :(
Completely useless, who change film simulation 10 or 30 times a day? The more I know about this xt50 the more I don’t want it, just a xs20 with xt body and wr will have been fine ( no wr with a wr kit lens is a non-sens..)
the price you gave us for this camera was that for cam with lens?
Had been looking forward to buying this camera but it’s a definite no for me now.
As long as they don't remove the X-T series Triangle dials (Shutter speed and ISO), I don't care. Just in case, I will never get rid of my XT-3, because we can never know beforehand the bad ideas they are cooking.
Agree - it would be a good move to announce a new camera in advance so that they can take input from their customers on what they would like to see. If they had done this then that silly film sim dail would never have seen the light of day
I dial for film simulations? Ridiculous.
Never brought into this model but I have to say it’s not appealing at all.
Oh dear, no interest in film simulations
A big NO ! custom dial for film sim on XS line where not enough ? An another camera for the newbee wanabee and their tiktok. Pass.
they should put iso/shutter dial rather FS dial.what a waste fuji:(
SURPRISE: all is 50% expensive.
Don't care. Make more x100vi. Stupid Fuji.
Gimmick. Pointless. First and last time this feature is used.
Agree - but it is the first time I am concerned about!!
Bullshit camera. No reason to buy this one over the X-T5.
Oh dear, what a mistake!! This makes the XT50 look like a novice entry level camera...........Why do this? those who want to shoot jpeg and use these there is a perfectly adequate way to do it. RAW shooters will be dismayed at this move I'm sure. This may well change my mind about getting the XT50 for my everrday carry camera.
X system has never been a professional system. It is built around capable jpg engine. It is a lifestyle product. Those who need nothing but a superclean raw file go with Nikon, Sony, Canon.
@@dergelenkspreizer5272not true. Enought professionals using xt series
I mean the X-Pro3 has a dedicated display just for film sims, so let's be real they have been an integral part of the Fuji system since the beginning. What I do think is dumb tho is not making the X-T50 dial customizable, that only limits the usability of the camera. But, just Fuji things lol
are you seriously crying over a dial that you might not even use? why would raw shooters be dismayed if they dont need it. if this is genuinely a reason to change your mind about getting one then the XT series is obviously not targeted for you.
So they should have done this on x100VI not xt50
That is such an ugly camera, Fuji what did u do?
Using Fujifilm cameras make wedding photography stressful ;-) .... unreliable AF and faulty tracking...
We need a PenF mII, not ever more overpriced Fuji‘s with ugly mirror bumps!