Why Are Liberals More Depressed Than Conservatives? - Destiny

Wow Chris - a left leaning person! a face to face interview with them too! I'm genuinely shocked. More of this please. Your channel is way too right wing at times.

Destiny is a pedo APOLOGIST PLEASE STOP GIVING HIM a PLATFORM 😢😢😢

​@@kratos.8151 Because liberals dunt want to talk ... 😂

Too much "like".. AGAIN

52:09 Everything Destiny said throughout this segment is 100% right on. I disagree with him on a lot of things, and he's more left-wing than I am, but dang it if he doesn't get this part exactly right. I wish more men on the right would understand this, instead of trying to take us back to 1950 or 1850. Women want real companionship, not just a paycheck. We're not going back to that. Some women might embrace "trad" but it's not the same thing as it was before, and on a society-wide level, we aren't going bsck. Move on. Evolve.

I just am concerned about Destiny's Child. No hits in the hot 100?

​@@jpslayermayor9293 you compounded my lol😂

I get the feeling that his name is as much as an attention gimmick as the blue hair he's had apparently recently. I've only listened to maybe two other convos with destiny and I ended up losing interest and stopping pretty early. He's got a vibe that generally turns me off.. probably bc i can't relate to liking either of our parties at this point. Just shows truly what a great interviewer Chris is bc I actually got sucked into the convo and gained some respect for destiny despite some strong disagreements.

@@fbinformant I'm in the same boat. There are a lot of things I disagree with him about, but the fact I was able to see a rational and calm discussion about subjects that I hold very strong opinions on was very refreshing. He made a lot of good points though I cannot say whether or not this is representative of his, for lack of a better term, catalog. I have heard of him before, but this is my first real exposure to him. One of his key points that I enjoyed was his line. About how so many? People. On either? Side are. So hell bent on tearing down current structures and institutions but have no idea what to replace them with. We cannot return to past status, and we cannot resume old morés... Certainly not if we wish to retain at least some semblance of liberty and freedom. I have found that there is a certain amount of hypocrisy to be found in both the left and right spectrums of american politics and culture. I can boil them both down in a extremely reductive way to say "We want the freedom for us to oppress you." Aside from gun rights on the right and abortion access on the left, I really can't see any unifying politics on either side. I suppose this is to be expected when you have an electorate of nearly three hundred million people. It hardly matters which political party is in power and either congress or 1600 Penn Ave, As I have seen since President Bush how the powers of the Office of the President have expanded and the actual rights of the average Citizen have been eroded and degraded, it really doesn't matter who is in office. Trying to unravel or foreign entanglements alone is a Sisyphean task because of over a century of overlapping treaties. This doesn't even hold a candle to the absolute blanket of alphabet agencies that have sprung up in the intervening time frame. At this point I almost wish the Goths would invade. Do you wanna know why the western empire was so hard to re establish? The local landowners were charging rents that were so much higher than what the gothic taxes were that simply put, the peasants preferred living under the Goths. On average, I have seen 1 trillion more debt each year and no one has any idea how to stop it. Rather than cut costs, they demand more taxes... At this point the United States deserves to burn for allowing this to happen.

@@fbinformant His name is back from when he was a starcraft pro. And his blue hair was a charity goal so he is just fulfilling a promise he made a long time ago.

Destiny advocates for ethnic cleansing of white people and forcefully removing conservatives from American society. He's anything but level headed.

@@Illumirage Are you a psyop? Why would you purposefully lie so obviously? All that does is make your side look unhinged and look like liars.

@@daviddavidson6278 projection

​@@Illumirage Projection inane-0

@@hurkamur1 no

No one can also take responsibility for anything either. Nor is anyone allowed to defend themselves... What a sad and sorry state.

Including him not taking accountability for saying Tate wonder be free on house arrest because he’s a flight risk but now that there’s still no evidence or charges and he’s on house arrest he’s claiming he’s always said to wait and see what happens he’s a slimey rat

@@mycrazylife408 Some punctuation would be helpful.

@@mycrazylife408 he is a flight risk and his position has always been let’s wait and see stop having a hate boner for him it’s weird

because people dogpile on anything of merit and put it down.

Yeah.. I can't watch a video if there's a guy with blue hair speaking. I'm not interested in any of what is said.

shes so brave. so stunning.

@@coleossal2544 So you would listen if he changed his hair color?

You guys are so repetitive and dull.

​​@@coleossal2544 thats the dumbest shit I heard in a while. Jesus. Does he look like an idiot? Yes. Does it matter? No. And no I never had blue hair, I am a heterosexual construction worker. 😂

Great description lol

I dont think they given enough credit to Milo with how on point he was during the gamer gate / anti feminist era. I have yet to see a critique of Milo that draws the distinction with his current public image and how he was back then.

He was the political 6ix9ine

Keep it up Notana

Solid breakdown. A lot of people in the comments shut their brains off when they see blue hair, so nice to see some rational listeners too.

Very well said

the people who say hes not left enough are the purity spiral people.

​@@adammocklerif I want to save time, I pull the blue hair. If I want to chew the fat, I'll go into reasons why I disappeared. KZhead comments aren't my collage essay homework.

Him and his gal have an open relationship, so take what he says about relationships and women with a grain of salt

Fortunately. There are more positive comments. Personally, if I can't bear listening to someone because they have been spouting word salad and nothing of real substance, I'll just go to the comment section to see if the commenters have anything more interesting to say. If no, I'll just move on to another podcast that talk about real substance more. I tried listening to Destiny speak here, but too bad that all he has been saying for almost 20mins are just word salad and common sense stuffs. Perhaps Chris should try to play more devil's advocate to make him speak his mind more, also Christ should focus more on the idea than the people

​@@shikyokira3065 ​ what word salad are you talking about specifically? There's a difference between word salad and schizo-posting/going off on niche internet culture tangents. Word salad is what Jordan Peterson does, when he strings together dozens of long words, many of which are outside the vocabulary of the average person. Destiny was just speaking about internet culture in plain English, but was talking about obscure topics without giving proper context.

@@corruptpolitician3321 Destiny was using vague languages to the things he was talking about. For example, Milo. He talked about him being good in environment where trolling this and that. But without going into the details what makes him good in that environment, what ideas he had that made him popular. Destiny then went on about environment changes this and that. All these are stuffs without depth. We all know Milo did something, we know environment changes. If you have a half a brain and has been following the news for more than 2-5 years at least, you should know about most of these events. The problem with Destiny and what made it word salad is he wasn't focusing on the main substance (the ideas, the principles, and the values), instead he was dancing around this event and that event. Yeah, it might sound smart to only talk about factual events since they are hard to deny, but it only make you look shallow, weak and not interesting because you aren't putting your ideas out to be tested and pondered by like minded individuals. You could say its Chris' fault for not steering the conversation into the "right" direction since he is the interviewer here. And I would agree with you As for the Jordan Peterson thing, I know this is a bait so I will ignore it. Since he has nothing to do with what we are talking about, other than something you *feel* like he did

@@shikyokira3065 It sounds like we just have different definitions of word salad. Mine could be incorrect. My understanding of 'word salad' was that it was mainly referring to hyperfixation on minor semantics and the use of overly verbose and confusing/hard-to-follow language. An example would be if you look up 'Jordan Peterson word salad' by Karl emmrich. Outlining events and trends is still making an argument or at least describing a pattern that leads to his conclusions. Destiny didn't use any crazy words or really even say anything confusing... You're right that he didn't argue or back what he was saying very well but that doesn't make it word salad. It just makes it vague and weakly argued.

@@chrisc4507 nothing of intelligent to say?

he’s so intelligent but he has terrible judgement and reasoning sometimes I think he’s just being a contrarian

​@@mycrazylife408 where do you disagree with him?

@Dalibansoldier The first thing that pops to mind is when he said he thinks Biden is doing a great job.

@@JamCooperyeah I was absolutely shocked when I heard that, first and last time I’ll ever hear anyone say that

@@JamCooper what did Destiny say specifically In support if Biden?

Always has been

@@kingdodgearcane if by advocating for ethnic cleansing you mean reasonable then well....

@@SamiNami how delusional are you?

@@kingdodgearcane 🌎👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

@@Illumirage By "advocating" for ethnic cleansing you mean that he doesn't give a shit if white race might eventually gets erased through race mixing?

So... consistently a great mind?

What's Baneling

bruh, his retard magnet and JIMMY NOOO videos were some of my favorite videos ever when I was a teenager lmao

I'm more on the left than Destiny but GOD is the state of the modern left frustrating. I want the kind "let's use technology to make people's lives easier and nature less wrecked" people back. The more science and philosophy oriented who can be actually critical towards their own in a philosophical way instead of this dumbass "you broke the woke code you BIGOT!" -shit. The woke stuff has many seeds of truth but goddamn is there a lot of shit on top of it too.

Same for me, namely the whole white guilt thing. The specific 'straw that broke the camel's back' for me though was complete strangers calling me an oppressor or coloniser and I'm like "I'm Scottish, who the fuck did I oppress or colonise?" 🤣 I find it impossible to have a genuine civil conversation with anyone who interacts this way.

@@MGShadow1989 because you can’t. Their tactic is specifically designed to divide and to destroy relationships. It’s evil. And you can tell because there’s nothing you can do to appease them to become ‘ok’. That’s the mark of a destructive tactic not a genuine desire to atone for the past

@@asparagusrealizer11 that’s what I tried to do, but it became clear class leftism isn’t viable. It’s moved on to mean racism against you based on your immutable characteristics you can’t change. And I preferred to live rather than die so I left the left. And had to rethink everything from first principles. For me, Catholicism became the alternative solution, an order based on the Church again modified to adapt to the changed conditions.

Acknowledging reality doesn't require hating yourself. Who the fuck told you to do that?

Radical right + radical leftist (not liberal) >

this manchild is not center left...

​@@wasdwasdedsf how is a he man child?

Yep. Absolutely love this stuff. I used to hate Destiny, but he's mellowed out and is more willing to listen to wtf people are saying, and the results are so much better this way.

​@@fifiadan Destiny - radical left? Litherally half of his content is explaining why socialism is stupid, unavailable and leftists are champagne socialists. The left hates him more then they hate Hitler

The problem is that once the left starts a policy to help people and it doesn’t work they never reverse it right away. It may be too difficult politically or they are simply opposed to changing the policy back. So you end up doing lots of damage before it eventually reverses (if ever).

Exactly. You can't always blame the system

Both sides have their positives and negatives, and we need to try to get the positives of both while addressing and dealing with the negatives of both. This sounds like a really obvious thing, but it doesn't seem like it's a thing in the public consciousness.

Rethink your perspective, Chris. My god…

@@guuumby_1468 rethink your own perspective.

@@guuumby_1468 Not sure you understand how I think. It should be obvious you can't assume something so vague is wrong or what kind of value someone would extract from another person's perspective. To be clear I found him agitating at first, but gradually I started to see the value in his way of thinking. It is very different from my own and when I say I liked him it doesn't mean that I would copy him or adopt his combative nature. But I understand people like that and I actually appreciate the role they play in the greater dynamic. I'm sorry that makes you uncomfortable. I'll try to think more about my perspective until a random person on the internet approves ;)

If you think that Destiny is a free thinker you are definitely wrong lmao

'Destiny isnt reflexively anti-establishment on absolutely everything so he isn't a free thinker.' - Every online loser, ever.

Yes please!

@@mytruthslays1303 destiny would leave him whimpering like a lil bitch !!!

@@jakobsrensen1684 who has destiny debated that has any actual knowledge of that of which they speak? I’ve only ever seen him talk to people like Tim pool or other leftists. No one with an actual coherent worldview that’s actually thought through these ideas.

@@mytruthslays1303 Oh....No I just meant that it would be adorable cuz they're both so petite. It would be like that hamster eating burritos bideo in 4d. He could get them coordinated regalia--accessories-- Heck, if he could get Rogan involved he could just kidnap them and do a whole Truman Show scenario. How precious it could be...

Ohhh, this would rule

Peace was never an option. Centre always have been irrelevant

Destiny got shit on from the left and right his whole career. He never did content and talks for just cloud or the money since he basically made Hasan and then he disagreed with him ideologically and now both are disliking each other since then.

@@dr.livesey7595 U do know it's center who always decides which party holds the presidency haha

echo chambers are comfy

You've been deceived? Balanced by what? This isn't money. 😂

@Mark Yuto hi, my point is I think it's likely I can get into a bit of an echo chamber listening to conservatives and I think Destiny is a good voice speaking for the liberal side.

breath of fresh air in the world of everyone has a podcast. set is dope framing and shot is dope, the back and forth angles on the speaker. great lighting.

I've been studying stoicism for almost 10 years and it really is the most misrepresented philosophy to ever exist, maybe aside from Nietzsche and nihilism

100% and it usually stems from people never having someone prepare you for the real world.

Not only that but your lows and neutrals make your highs that much better

People forget that happiness is an extreme emotion. Most of the time life is neutral and there are moments of happiness and moments of sadness

@@ginger_jeezus exactly

I hope you've moved on to someone stable now. Or gotten her pregnant and have her stay home.

Exactly! I think he meant 'in clown world' 😄

Banks, Military Industrial Complex and College Administrators love the job Biden is doing.

being a destiny fan i believe it would be 1 covid relief 2 infrastructure bill 3 afghan

@@michael2713 He’d probably say Ukraine response as well. Honestly might even say that over Afghanistan

CHIPS Act, IRA, Marriage Equality written into law (as opposed to a flimsy court ruling that can be thrown out by the new ilk)

I think this is their second episode together.

@@wolfmayner6274 He's interviewed most of my favorite people on YT so yeah I forgot about that. It feels way different now too idk

What an original joke that we haven't heard 100 times before.

@@ChickFenwick free speech goes from all directions.

his natural T levels are ~300 sooo sounds about right

@@Spade2351 "Male: 300 to 1,000 nanograms per deciliter (ng/dL) or 10 to 35 nanomoles per liter (nmol/L) Female: 15 to 70 ng/dL or 0.5 to 2.4 nmol/L." Depending on much you want to stab at this, ~300 estimate may still be too high, just sayin'.

@@YummyFoodOnlyPlz Which means that I'm free to comment on your comment.

He's batsh.. Wants to ethnically cleanse white people and wants to forcefully remove all conservatives from the country.....

🤣

Its an act ,,,, its not real

Unless he is debating and then he tries to railroad them. Yes, he is very good at talking and listening in a conversation.

@@habitat2990 ??

it's so refreshing and restores a bit of hope for me. I don't want to be totally disenfranchised with progressive thought (as I have been for a few(several??) years now), Destiny helps me out of that and stops me from being intellectually lazy. You're right he's a great listener and communicator.

Never had input? Never were equal? Nah that would imply they were not cherished above all to the married men of those long ago times. Maybe I misinterpret what your meaning is?

Yea the first things he mentions are abortion and birth control aren't going away. Now I don't keep up a lot with the "trad" movement too much so I could be ridiculously wrong but all I've seen is harkening back to a more traditional relationship structure

Very lucid view of the situation... makes me wish I could save comments lol.

"Our problem as a society is mainly class related" No it it not. Not even close. "Class" is just another bigoted leftist ideal. Used to create more division and hatred within society. Our main problem as a society, is mainly state based. The state has FAR to much power and control over society. This is what makes it hard for the "poor" to build their way up the social and economic hierarchy.

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She really has so much potential outside of the stripping drama of clout goblins. I hope she will engage with this "centrist anti woke" bubble a lot more as it has so much more constructive potential for actual insights than redpill dummies, christian conservatives or the screeching end of the left. I really feel like the Heidt, old Peterson etc. style of pattern interacting with reasonable lefties is peak compromise of philosophy, clout and entertainment. Here can actually exist healing conversations for society. Would love to see Destiny with Chris and some of his more typical guest.

Most original comment of the day today

​@@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069 most original comeback of the day.

It's impossible to hate anyone that sounds a bit like a droll homosexual dwarf?

​@@philiphudgens4726 Rather interesting way to describe him... Apt as much as I hate to admit it. I've heard his name before, but I never knew anything about him. I don't agree with him on everything, especially the Biden bit, but he did make a lot of good points.

I got hooked on him. First i thought we'd see eye to eye on many things, with time i saw the differences. But it doesn't matter, he builds his arguments well and it's entertaining to listen to, even when he doesn't change opinions

@@joeljuntunen2340 It's just nice to see someone who seems to have actually put more than two seconds of thought into a subject. Whether I agree with him or not is irrelevant. It's just refreshing to see.

Yes!!

Nah, the dude went insane and never came back. Seeing his recent clips has been pure cringe. He has completely lost the plot.

He was too busy playing video games in preparation of being rich.

@@kirkvanallen5202 Bro, I don't care for football because of personal experience and the obvious consequences of it. But Madden is huge and Warren Sapp and others play it. Musk played computer games as a kid and he was picked on. Just because you play video games doesn't mean you have to be an anti-physical competition beta.

I’I’m not a Destiny fan, however I value conversion and appreciate his willingness to go on more conservative/moderate podcasts.

And vice versa

Comment so someone can see. I looked for it on twitter and couldn't find anything

Ah shit i know the exact one but there’s no way I could dig out a link, it’s a couple years old

It’s essentially a bunch of tweets of communists saying they couldn’t buy a gun cuz if they did they would kill themselves with it

He dyed his hair blue for charity

​​@@danial3600 If true, good on him.

@@Deridus he did but he said since it triggers so many people and gets conversations started with girls he may continue to dye it.

@@kirkvanallen5202 Ah. So the rumors of his degeneracy are true?

@@Deridus they aren’t rumors he’s open about his relationship. Everyone does degenerate shit they just don’t want to admit it or be honest about it. It’s almost like most peoples definition of degenerate is silly.

Right, exactly.

That's one of his biggest copes. And that's saying something.

You didn't see how he "beat big pharma this year"?? By pharma having some of its most profitable years of all time?

Lowest u6 unemployment rate lowest u3 unemployment rate Highest gdp rate. Brought some inflation from 10 percent last year to 4.98 percent (at a time when the whole world is going through a systemic inflation spike) Revitalized the U.S. manufacturing sector ( chips act is the most notorious of them) Kick the crap out of China ( free balloons flew over the us under trump he did nothing) And a lot more.

Lowest u6 unemployment rate lowest u3 unemployment rate Highest gdp rate. Brought down inflation from 10 percent last year to 4.98 percent (at a time when the whole world is going through a systemic inflation spike) Revitalized the U.S. manufacturing sector ( chips act is the most notorious of them) Kick the crap out of China ( three balloons flew over the us under trump he did nothing) And a lot more.

Really because he looks 5'7.5 to me

@@c---R 🤣I giggled at that!

All that open space and high rates of obesity

god i love living in the middle of nowhere. makes it a lot easier to rape my cousin and have more incest babies.

I mean connected have higher rates of childhood pregnancy, higher rates of obesity, higher rates of childhood poverty, higher rates of dropping out of highschool. But at least they don't live in cities. I think the answer is probably more complex than that.

And yet research constantly shows people are much happier in rural communities. Happiness may not come from what we are told it should come from.

@@johnschmidt1262 I actually looked that up and there's not much of a link between rural living and urban living. Or rather the difference is very minor. People in cities and rural areas report depression at similar rates, and suicide rates are also similar.

Gotta throw plastics leaking into us in there

I mean nothing as in a 1.3 trillion dollars infastucture deal...

That´s totally fair. Have YOU thought about the conclusions you would favor? And why? Then watching destiny has already done you good.

can you gib examples? Im curious

@@0_oblivion_02 Watching basically anything else is a better use of his time. Destiny fans need to get out of that eco chamber sometimes.

@@alwaysright3943 Sure. "Don't fixate on one thing only! " Gigabrain advice. You must be very intelligent. Or even better, a redpiller...

Here’s the thing I’ve learned watching destiny. At the end of the day you need to build or be part of a community that activates you to take action. I think even destiny agrees with this, and his whole goal is to activate his community to take meaningful actions to build strong community and he’s in charge of his community.

Benny only wants to dunk on college kids. He’s not at all interested in good faith debate. Lol

@@kalplays9922 I doubt it. He brings in a lot of non-conservative speakers on his Sunday specials.

@@akhiltrc9708 not any non-conservatives that would actually challenge him in a meaningful way. Ben Shapiro is smart but when you see him talk to people who aren't 18 year old college kids or your most basic democrat or liberal, he does not show up the way he normally might.

I'm pretty sure Ben said he won't debate him. Not sure why though.

@@jorgeenchilada He had Ana Kasparian, Matt Taibbi, Bill Maher, Bari Weiss, Russell Brand, Ezra Klein on. I think it is that the hyper liberals won’t platform themselves on his space, and not a matter of him not requesting them on for a debate. Is that last line an assumption, or is there a link to where I can see how he doesn’t appear as he normally might debating respectable liberals?

The strategies are quite rigorous for the regular. As a matter of fact, they are mostly successfully carried out by pros who have had a great deal of skillset/knowledge to pull such trades off.

I agree, before the pandemic got real serious, I used to handle all my investment and I was pretty good at it, fast forward to post-pandemic and my-portfolio is steady in the red with profit rate down to the lowest, that's when I touched-base with a coach I saw featured on businessweek, who restructured my portfolio and over the last couple years, I've made over $850k from initially $210K

I’m new to all this, heard it's a good time to buy and basically I've just got cash sitting duck in the bank and I’d really love to put it to good use seeing how inflation is at an all time-high, who is this coach that guides you, mind I look them up

"Jackson Sten Marsh." is the coach that guides me, you ca look him up on the web-site for further verification.

Thank you for this tip. it was easy to find your coach. Did my due diligence on him before engaging his services. He seems proficient considering him résumé.

Based and retardpilled.

Take a look at incel forums, they’re all right wingers bro

@@gyytgy3330 I'm sure the left is known to be sexually degenerate..that implies alot of sex..

@@gyytgy3330 nah I think that's an oversimplification. I came from a small redneck town and I highly doubt anybody is on reddit in that town

But what are you arguing? Those are descriptive statements.

@Dio Brando @Dio Brando sorry if I wasn't clear, im arguing that the decreased tolerance to stress or "fragility" towards stress is more than: Weakness of the youth Internet Addiction Different Ideology that brings in facility to stress Ect All of those things I do consider factors, but I feel some factors ignored, especially in this talk, are the higher living standards and increased competition from stronger liberalism, progressivism, and technology. People today, especially the young, have a high investment to compete for what is higher than traditionally socially excepted standard of living. They have to compete in markets boosted with greater and cheaper freedom of movement, wider spread and more instant communications, and more globally centralized corporate/economic/cultural/educational institutions. All of this culminates in an increased choice paralyzation and a greater stress to maintain the successes of the path they are already on. I'm arguing that the stress fragility is influenced and likely highly influenced by changes in the western world over the past generations. Yes the youth need to figure out ideologies and lifestyles that will help navigate the stress, but I feel it's a case of having to carry the cross. Its an ill you need to get better at but it's likely not going to go away cause you got better at it

@@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756 Well sure, but most people say that without thinking of what kids are going through, or how they have fun

@Dio Brando I mean sure, but it shows a bit of a lack of empathy or understanding when specifically talking about the problems of today and the kids these days. I'm not really dogging here though, just adding to the convo

@@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756 Agreed. I was just wondering if you were wanting to advocate for anything.

Probably a You Tube thing.

Most reasonable leftie.

As someone who is overall more on the left than him I'm still so fucking desperate for reasonable philosophical leftists who don't view everything as a fucking tug of war where winning always comes before seeking truth. I'm sure they exists but the sphere of people with more clout is so fucking barren of them. This center/center right "academic kinda anti woke" bubble has a lot of potential for good but that won't be achieved if it's just the school of Heidt, Peterson and the likes talking with each others with no counterparts from the left joining them.

I've seen this a lot. Unfortunately a lot of people out there just hit a wall and immediately jump to "taxes bad!" and "government only makes things worse!" so they might only offer solutions that end up being pure BS stuff, like "the invisible hand of the markets will regulate everything" (as if we've ever seen uncontrolled capitalism end without disaster) or "remove government involvement entirely". It's one thing if you're fixing bad legislation and regulations with new versions, but you're not "solving" anything by saying "get rid of it all!" as a knee-jerk response. Then you have dopes saying "Keep the government out of my Medicare!"

What does status have to do with wealth?