Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. In this Patreon-sponsored episode, Linkara looks at the Marvel and DC crossover pitting the heroes of each universe against each other!
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Originally released April 13th, 2024
ORIGINAL DESCRIPTION: Now let's do the version where it's their licensed books from other franchises fighting each other.
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Jonah apologizing to Spidey is such a good moment. He has no response to that. To quote TFS Gohan “Oh wow, we *are* fucked.”
Rick, "God dammit Morty! i gave --*belch*-- I gave you one job, and it was to look after a --*belch*-- cardboard box!"
Awe geez Rick, I only looked away from it for a few seconds
Finally, AT4W achieves its true calling: A TIME 4 WHITEBOARDS!
I laughed way too hard at that. 😅
I always remember the clip about Stan Lee who was tired of the question "Who would win..." where he basically flat out says it's the same answer to all of them "Whoever the Writer wants to win"
35:52 - Linkara: IAMTHNIGHT! *Thud* Not gonna lie, I was cracking up the second that happened.
Me too. Made me spit take.
God that one panel of Thanos smiling as the sky bleeds is chilling. Especially with how it contrasts against everyone else, even Darkseid, looking solemn.
And so is Darkseid smiling at Thanos as a prelude to an ass-kicking.
35:52 "IAMTHENIGHT!" If you look closely, Linkara even put on the mask, despite the fact that no one would blame him for not. Commitment! And it's really funny, so that's even better!
Its my head canon that Joker remembers the crossover specifically because he's "super sane" and thus like a single step below Deadpool who actively knows he's a comic character. So I'm waiting for an amazing interaction where Joker mentions Spider-Man being back and Batman tells him that he's insane and he has no idea who he's talking about and Joker just gets pissed that no one believes him or remembers.
"The Gang Gaslights The Joker"
@@HyruleSwordsman94I’m for it all
Let's include Psycho-Pirate into the club. Maybe even say both see each other as genuine friends
Joker sometimes knows he's a Comic book character too, talking to the reader through the fourth wall.
@@JoshuaSkaug472 I liked it when The Joker in BATMAN: TAS watched and quoted cartoon characters because, on some level, he knew he IS a cartoon character.
My favorite moment was Namor getting flattened by a killer whale. The pure comedic value of that was priceless.
Feels kinda mean to give Ben Reilly that monologue about how much he loves being Spider-Man like a passage like that is always destined to end poorly.
*Screams in Chasm*
D: same
I loath retcons... but Marvel would get me to buy their stuff again when they retcon the entirety of the beyond story combined with Chasm. Just retcon it into Jackal reviving Spidercide instead who thought he was Ben. Problem solved.
@@EnerKaizer i agree one hundred percent they should just retcon the horrible beyond story out of existence to just have Ben Reilly not be Chasm anymore.
@@TevyaSmolka i want ben back to his actual glory but not retcon everything out. that would be the eays way out. their easy way out. it would be better if we kept that history but only to learnt from it.
That "Batman falls down" noise was worth this video alone.
Bravo of the thumbnail. Now I wanna see a Marvel VS DC game with Smash mechanics. Either that or a Marvel VS DC game with Marvel VS Capcom mechanics.
As someone who really wants to see that game someday be made, my vote goes to Smash mechanics. But I'm biased since it's the only fighting game I've ever been good at.
Marvel vs DC with Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe mechanics.😈
I would rather have a Marvel Vs DC game that combines MVC & Injustice mechanics.
The closest Is Fortnite, sadly
I'd like to see it with asymmetrical 3rd person freeroam mechanics. Like, Batman plays like Arkham Batman, but Spider-Man plays like Insomniac Spider-Man. Deadpool like the Deadpool game, Superman... is OP af. Each plays how they should play. It would be nearly impossible to make and absolutely impossible to balance, but it would be awesome nonetheless.
Did it a spit-take at the Doom and Captain Marvel bit, was so caught off guard by his respect for comics history
I’m with doom on this! He is.was.and always will be. Captain marvel
11:50 Doom being based
That, and mainly to stick it to Carol Danvers as petty revenge for beating him in a fight. Don't know when it happened, but I'm sure it happened at least once.
@@louisduarte8763 Which fits Doom's MO. For all his bluster about being above everyone else's petty squabbles he himself is pretty damn petty when it comes to Reed.
Its a short moment, but when Bats goes to help Nightwing, there is some really touching text that says that although Bruce is worried about the Lizard, the chances of something happening to Dick when Tim has already been warped away is very touching. A dad refusing to lose another son.
Honestly, in regards to the Wolverine Vs Lobo fight: I recall hearing a fan theroy that Wolverine paid Lobo to take a dive, and... yeah, that'd track for both of them. Wolverine gets a easy win for his universe, Lobo gets money and free booze. Wolverine's not above taking a more pragmatic path, and Lobo would 100% sell out his universe for the right price. It checks out.
It's not a fan theory. It actually happens in a comic set after this (can't recall the title or issue number, sorry). Lobo mentions that some guy in a wheelchair once paid him to throw a fight with a little hairy guy.
Ngl a Batman vs Venom book would be nice. Imagine the symbiote bonds with Bruce and inherits not only Batman's skills, but some of his moral code as well.
Batman goes to fight Bane and finds this time he’s juicing on a very different kind of venom…
I like the message that the inspirational essence of stories are bigger than even their creators. I didn't expect that kind of heartfelt appreciation of the effect that stories have on people in a "who is stronger?" kind of crossover tale.
If I had a Nickel for every Marvel/DC crossover where Captain America and Batman fought for a bit then teamed up to save both universes. I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it still happened twice, and that’s cool.
I mean, Cap and Batman can literally solve any problem. And if they can't, they got the person for the job on speed dial.
Technically 3 EDIT: wait, I thought you meant just team up.
What were the other two times?
@@jordanhunter3375 The John Byrne one-shot Cap/Batman WWII one, and JLA/Avengers one.
WHY DOES IT KEEP HAPPENING TWICE?
43:35 Missed opportunity to have the clip of TFS Gohan saying “Oh, wow. We ARE fucked”
I had the exact same thought pass through my head.
True, though I think I prefer the idea of Jonah ruining the moment if apologizing by still somehow blaming Spider-Man.
@@ArcCaravan not me. to some degree i have learnt to hate that meme. as that seems to becoming the image the entire mainstream audience seems to have about jonah
@@ianr.navahuber2195 Fair. In this case it's more about not using a TFS clip. Delivery also helped since this "Jonah" still accepted some responsibility as though he pushed Spidey too far.
32:38 "A Teletubby can knock out Darth Vader" BUT NOT DIPSY!!! THAT WOULD BE RIDICIOULUS!!!!
ALL HAIL DARTH DIPSY!!! 😂😂😂
Was Dipsy the green one or the yellow one?
@@UltimateMayhemVX Green! Know your Star Wars Lore! 😉
One of my favorite parts of these crossovers is the consistent respect these characters have for one another. It’s like seeing your best friends meeting for the first time and being becoming best friends too. In particular, I like how Batman and Captain America throughout all these crossovers are shown to be consistently even and friendly.
12:44 You know, the funny thing is, Godzilla’s just now technically a DC character. Just imagine an Amalgam comic featuring Godzilla merged with like….one of the emotional entities or Fin Fang Foom.
Or King Kong Which Could Also Involve An Amalgam Version Of The Universal VS Nintendo Lawsuit Over An Mash Up Of Donkey Kong and Vector The Crocodile From Sonic The Hedgehog
26:04 AQUAMAN'S ROUSING SONG OF HEROISM!
Outrageous!
Glad to see the thing holding the Amalgam Universe together is the greatest, manliest handshake the multiverse has ever seen between two abstract concepts of the gods themselves.
Kinda disappointed Lewis didn’t cut to the Predator handshake when that happened. That’s the image that flashed in my mind when it happened
Even though JLA/Avengers is the better series, I prefer the scope of Marvel vs DC better. On the Marvel side it had the X-Men, Silver Surfer, Spider-Man, the Hulk and some Avengers. On DC it had Lobo, Captain Marvel, Superboy, Robin and some Justice Leaguers too. I loved that a bit more than just the Justice League and Avengers going toe to toe. Also, they should get Linkara to be Dr. Doom in the MCU. His impression of him is absolutely flawless.
Doing a good impression of a character is totally different than acting the character out in a film.
@@Pikachu2Ash yes, I know that. It was a joke that wasn't supposed to be taken seriously...
Wait until you start reviewing the DC/Marvel sequel where Access can start time traveling, plucking heroes from different times, and we find out that Access was, in fact, the homeless guy.
18:31 🎶 I hear voices in my head They counsel me, they understand They talk to me...
24:39 I mean, we saw in Avengers/Justice League that Quicksilver has the advantage of not being reliant of the Speedforce being a thing in the universe he wants to go fast in... But aside from that, it's not even a contest. Wally outran Instant Teleportation once, for crying out loud (admittedly with aome borrowed kinetic energy, but nothing keeps him from taking Quicksilver's speed if they're going at it seriously).
If you're going to cover All Access it's a good thing you mentioned Dr. Strangefate since (no spoilers) he plays an important part of that story. Access is interesting in that in both sequels (All Access is followed by Unlimited Access) it's his job to keep the universes separate and sometimes they do crossover. This explains why the various crossovers between DC's Earth 1 and Marvel's Earth 616 act like they always shared a universe even though it's not acknowledged by either universe, like with the time Spider-Man met Joker (one of my favorite crossovers as it takes time to explore the similarities between Peter and Bruce's backstories). The crossover happens, and then Access restores things to how it should be. It's a simple answer, and it works.
Unlimited Access in particular is a lot of fun.
@@victorchapa6307 As a story but I didn't think it was a great addition to Access' power set in the long run. Plus it ends on the same cliffhanger as 90s Spider-Man: "I need to travel other universes to find my girlfriend."
I think Spider-Man would break Joker because I don't think he'd ever understand how someone like Peter who has the weirdest shit happen to him, all the bad things that has happened in his life and NOT go insane. At least Bruce has a company and rich, Peter has to struggle to make rent each month lol
35:52 best joke tbh, my fiance and I are howling
2:55 So what you’re saying is, in some alternate dimension, the Amalgam Universe is just called “Two Brothers”? Two Brothers. It’s just called Two Brothers…
Actually in Marvel it's called Earth-1998
I'm guessing I'm not the only one to do the voice when the guy called himself Morty. Not that I did the voice WELL, mind you.
And there's these old ladies with lots of cats... riding scooters... in the apocalyptic wasteland.
It's always a good day when Linkara uploads! 14:45 Funnily enough, that's pretty much the plot of Miraculous Ladybug. At least the 1st season anyway.
The constant in that one is that fandom hates one or both of the bullies, and the love square will be stretched in the style of the problems with the power couple of Friends.
I was just about to say that.
Season 5 actually. That’s when Marinette and Adrien started dating
@@kamenriderspider5292 FRICKIN' FINALLY!
@@alexmills9223 They still don’t know each other’s secret identity.
What I love/hate about Marvel vs DC is that it's such a time capsule of the era, there's something crazy going on with nearly every character
From that description of Lobo vs Logan... out of sight, lots of grunting, Wolverine smokes after... Did... did he just sex the main man into submission?
I don't think that was Xavier's bribe offer.
Surprise!
I suppose healing factor adds to his stamina? :P
Well... he IS the best he is at what he does... He's never said what that is, only that it's not pretty...
It feels in character for Lobo to lose the fight because he succumbed to one of his vices
8 down, 7 more to go! What will be next to review? My bet is Punisher meets Archie
I say its batman #66
I really need Nextwave
I want that just so I can see if it’s any good. I keep hearing it’s good but I just don’t get it
Lost girls scratch it tarot witch of the black rose
Nextwave actually has a decent shot. His criteria at the time (ten years ago) was he doesn't do GOOD stories, just bad ones... and he talked very positively about it. He's done lots of good stories since then... including Maximum Carnage which was also on the never list. If someone patreoned Punisher vs. Archie maybe but I feel like that'd be a commission better spent on... almost anything else. Lost Girls I don't think he even CAN do since so much of the content is porn. Batman 66 he already did the ENTIRE joke of just saying "Boner" a bunch, there's really no point.
"the reason why spiderman didn't fight superman was because it would be a short fight" i love how even the companies acknowledge the superman is a vs debator's nightmare, just no way he should lose most vs fights, though releasticly if both sides were to fight superman would wipe the floor with most of marvel maybe some cosmic level stuff could defeat him but superman is just a nightmare here
Eh, Sups is OP but Marvel does have Sentry and people who could fight him. Granted Sentry didn't exist yet at the time of the crossover but still lol
@@jacobwilliams1223 yes, sentry didn't exist back then. But it was at the time when Superman was just depowered and Gladiator... existed. Not to mention people like Monica Rambeau.
tbf, if this was done today, Supes opponent for sure would've been Thor, which would basically be an easy equal to him. Maybe not as stronge as Clark, but with his magical powers he circumvents Supermans near invulnerability, meaning when they clash they are on equal footing.
@@EnerKaizer I mean, Shazaam is supposed to be on equal footing with Superman so that kind of did happen
As was brought up before. Magic is a weakness for Supes and while the number of magically prominent threats in DC are somewhat rare, Marvel has a rather large number of them. Beyond Thor, there is also Doctor Strange, the various Ghost Riders, Scarlet Witch, Shaman, Magik, and if we want to include villains, Loki, Dr. Doom, the Mandarin, and Mephisto. You don't need to over power Superman if you can just teleport him away, tranform him into an animal, remove his powers, etc....
Okay, bit of cuteness : I was playing with my cats to try to exhaust them while this video was playing. As soon a Mr T was mentioned, both stopped playing at sst at attention in front of the TV. Even cats know the power of T!
Surgeon General fun fact: The Skullgirls devs made a Valentine variant after her. I think so at least given the name
With the wrestling joke, I'm imagining one of the brothers winning, standing victorious, and then you see the representation of Image standing behind him like that one meme of The Undertaker
Two things. 1) The title card for it is hilarious. Spidey vs. Batman in Final Destination. Fitting. 2) Figure another one gets cut off the list. So can't wait. Hopefully this will help lift my spirits today. Rock on.
final destination only, no parents
9:48 "yes it is my batterang. This is yours"
48:37 Even Kevin Feige and James Gunn told that lesson to everyone, some heard it and some ignore this important fact out of mere selfpride or cause unfortunaly some people just want to watch the world burn. While me i like both Marvel and DC and i don't belive there needs to be some rivalry or hatred between both sides. You can like them both, simply as that.
I'm always down for a crossover even a bad one.
I only managed to get one issue of this event back in the day but I thought (and still think) Jubilee and Robin hanging out/getting along was adorable af.
40:53 Honestly this could be a running gag, it really does seem that way sometimes. Doctor Manhattan accidentally drops garbage there, ffs.
Kinda hilarious that some of the matchups actually made to Death Battle. Yeah this was wild but should’ve been bigger. Next Time: Mr T is back
I wish we could have seen Lady Death and Death just chilling somewhere while all this was happening.
44:30 -- I like to think that, if he’d been included, the Phantom Stranger would have been all “Oh mo, not again...”
Normally, I'd agree that Wolverine should lose to Lobos, but if it's like Greco-Roman wrestling where you just have to be the first to incapacitate your opponent, which I can see Logan doing without a problem. My sister is a skinny 5, 4 and wrestled in high school. Because she was the only interested girl in her year, she had to train with the boys (the coach rock for offering her this alternative so she could participate and the male students for seeing her as one of them). She trains with light and medium-weight boys. A teacher who happened to be passing by said that when he saw my sister beating her opponent, he thought it was nice that the boys were taking it easy on her. Her coach defended her, saying no, she's talented, no one's going to go easy on her. The teacher said that my sister was small and a woman, so she should lose normally. The coach explained that not necessarily and that my sister focuses on being fast and strategic. She just has to be the first to push the other's shoulders to the mat, not wreck the opponent. So yeah, she was capable of defeating boys heavier than her. So yeah, with the same logic, Logan can win. And yes, it makes me roll my eyes when people use the excuse of not wanting trans people in sports because cis girls won't be able to win anymore...B*tch, my sister made 2nd in her category and kicked the asses of most of the men's wrestling team in practice. Girls who play sports don't need to be protected or rather used to harass trans kids.
Marvel Speedsters are a lot slower then DCs, when Runner held a race to see the fastest in the universe. The winner was Barry Allen.
To quote Street Fighter 3: "Yeah, I been waiting for this!"
Hope you’re doing awesome, Linkara! This was one of the first comics I bought as a kid.
I can understand Catwoman walking like she's in high heels even without them. She walks on the pads of her feet like a cat.
Or as it's known in English, DC Vs Marvel Got em!
once linkara has inevitably crossed everything off that list he deserves a reward
He gets another spaceship
I kind of doubt he'll cover Nextwave, given what happened with Warren Ellis.
(41:40) (*cue Jeremy Irons from the Dungeons and Dragons movie*) LET THEIR BLOOD RAAAAAAAIN FROM THE SKYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
He is alfred so makes sense
I love the fact that of all the villains watching the end of everything, THANOS is the one that's jubilant over the death of both universes.
On the subject of "lobo vs wolverine", i feel like its not just the fact that lobo can punch superman, but that he can eat suns and regenerate near instantly from a single drop of blood that makes me hesitate to believe that wolvy would have a win condition. Thats "eating suns" by compressing it into a ball, chewing, and swallowing, btw.
but can Lobo handle Earth booze, my head canon was Wolverine just dumped a bottle of Jack down Lobo's mouth.
To be clear, Lobo's base power level is very flexible. Make him the superman villain of the week, he's vaguely Kryptonian level minus flight but with regen. Give him a solo book, he's... Flinging suns around and barred from being collected by death. But put him as an extra on a team book? ...Yeah nah, then he's a jobber you can show get eviscerated safely, a Deadpool metalhead. Such is the scaling power of popularity. And oh, does Wolverine know something about that...
But can he beat Goku-Agh, no, I was kidding! Stop!
Considering the smoking by Wolverine after and not seeing what happened... well my mind went to a more seductive form of "incapacitation". We all know the Main Man likes his action after all, and I seem to recall him being taken out a few times by such things...
@@hitomisalazar4073Wait... Is that the "what he does" that Wolverine is the best there is at?
Jameson: I’m sorry Interest TFS Teen Gohan: Oh we really are f#%£😂😂😂
One interesting thing about this contest, since Marvel won the fan vote (by one) they "won" Marvel vs. Dc...and the prize metatexually was Access decided to stick with his Marvel girlfriend.
11:37 Marvel actually did bring back The Surgeon General in a Spider-Man series, but it was a new character who took over her mantle.
Which series?
@@daelen.cclark First appeared in Amazing Spider-Man Issue 700.3
As flawed as this book is (I agree that it should have been longer), I still love this book, seeing as it got me into Superhero comics. I really wish there could be more of these crossovers, if only the heads of both companies weren't pricks about it.
Meanwhile Ruby Heart: Do you think we should our gather our greatest warriors to aid them in battle, or do you need to consult the elder gods first? Raiden: I must consult the elder gods (disappears into a bolt of lightening) Ruby Heart: I WAS JOKING!
I've always loved Thanos' "It's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen." Just such a great summary of the character. I have to be honest, I'm amazed that nobody's used Access again. You'd think someone like Grant Morrison would have him pop up in something.
if it's 1996..... then it's Mark Waid Flash comics.... OH WOW! There's no contest at all.
Jubille telling Robin she loves his costume is a reference to how her costume at the time was based on Robin's costume
Tbf, Gambit is a master thief. The Endless just watching this happen and just eating popcorn as they sit.
I feel like Death would be talking to Death, and just raise an eyebrow and ask her "so... Wade Wilson? Really?" and skeleton-face Death through pantomime tells Goth-Death that Deadpool's "Merc with the mouth" moniker is not just related to how much he talks.
This DC doing their recent string of animated movies, I would honest to god LOVE IT if the two companies worked out a deal to somehow make THIS a multipart animated feature.
I wish it would've been possible to have Spider Man 2099 fight Batman Beyond.
we got this as an episode of Death Battle atleast, even if this was before Across The Spiderverse came out. in which Spider-Man 2099 was more known in Shattered Dimensions and Edge Of Time
Bat in the Sun did it and had a alternate ending as well.
@@Zakaria3400 okay
16:24 I thought the bX-Man were sold in the DC universe. After all, Superman stories are sold in the Marvel Universe. 19:46 I guess it's about the stories where Thanos got the energy from OA. and other cosmic stuff in older crossovers. regarding time travel. During normal time travel, alternative timelines were created. But special time travel within one's own history was possible. just not that easy (and causes damage). AoA / Legion's time travel hit the 616th.
6:34 It’s radioactive! That can’t be good!
42:40 "Mommy, it's raining! It's raining red! Mommy, it's raining! It's raining red! Look, Mommy! It's raining red!"
Thor and Captain Marvel's battle should have been a thumb war.
20:11 well that makes the Yin and Yang metaphor pretty apt
Happy to see another amazing video by you, Linkara! I've been feeling pretty bummed out for a few days, but seeing a new episode of Atop the Fourth Wall always puts a smile on my face. Thanks again!
the part about Captain America liking Beta and Batman's reaction cracked me up XD
I remember reading back then that the cosmic event that made the "Brothers" aware of each other took place in the "Silver Surfer / Green Lantern" crossover that took place before this comic. Although I never read that issue myself
Headcanon as to how Wolverine beat Lobo, Lobo found a very fine bottle of booze and surrendered so he could drink it had lobol won Wolverine would be drinking the booze
As someone who’s been trying to write my own DC/Marvel crossover, it’s been a lot of fun and I know why so many writers love to think up ideas… and if only Disney and WB got their heads out of their asses and realize that fans will buy and want Superman/Spider-Man, X-Men/Justice League, Captain America/Wonder Woman, and Green Lantern/Guardians of the Galaxy, and dozens of others! Fans WANT THIS, Marvel and DC want this, WB and Disney know… and don’t care cause that is a lot of money but neither wants 50/50, they want 100%.
Well, they're working together to release the Marvel/DC comics in two omnibuses.
@@coreylineberry8557 which is great but would love anonther Marvel and dc crossover especially one sorta done in the same style as what the recent monsterverse/justice league crossover is doing
@@coreylineberry8557 When did this happen?
I've always loved when Marvel and DC crossed over. It was a funner time in comics unlike today where's one giant pissing contest.
@@muigokublack6487 Later this year.
36:40 "And thus the Marvel Universe loses." Wait, what? DC lost, not Marvel. They actually lost the moment Superboy lost, with Spider-Man clinching the win for Marvel, appropriately enough. The non-vote fights were set up so that Marvel and DC would each get an even number of victories. Thor vs Captain Marvel = Thor / Marvel Aquaman vs Namor = Aquaman / DC Flash vs Quicksilver = Flash / DC Robin vs Jubilee = Robin / DC Silver Surfer vs Green Lantern = Silver Surfer / Marvel Elektra vs Catwoman = Elektra / Marvel So it was 3 wins to Marvel, 3 wins to DC. The reason there was 5 vote fights was to prevent a tie. The vote fights were: Wolverine vs Lobo = Wolverine / Marvel Storm vs Wonder Woman = Storm / Marvel Spider-Man vs Superboy = Spider-Man / Marvel Superman vs the Hulk = Superman / DC Batman vs Captain America = Batman / DC So 6 wins for Marvel, 5 wins for DC, and the winning fight for Marvel was Spider-Man, appropriately enough. It does kind of showcase the issue with voting tho. Given the popularity of the X-Books at the time, it was almost unfair putting two X-Men on the final count to guarantee wins, and really, whomever was put up against Superman, Batman and Spider-Man was going to lose a popularity contest. Overall tho, it is a shame this series couldn't have been a 12 issue epic in the vein of Crisis on Infinite Earths or Secret Wars. Then again, it's an even greater shame that JLAvengers couldn't have gotten a 12 issue run. But there were a lot of missed opportunities that could have taken place, one-shot team ups they could have done, really focused on the character interaction. It's also kind of a shame they had to go with the 90s versions of those characters, as opposed to more 'timeless / classic' versions, akin to well done animated series adaptations of the characters. Something more akin to Justice League / Unlimited vs Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes versions of the characters. It makes you wonder how the match ups would have gone today. There likely would have been a Carol Danvers vs Wonder Woman match up, which honestly would make a lot more sense than Diana vs Storm. Iron Man would have been part of the line up, there would have been a lot more Green Lanterns to choose from, we'd get Peter Parker back as Spider-Man, etc. So while a fun but rushed storyline, it is basically a whole grab bag of missed opportunities.
Batman cap America was a tie. In the comic book at least. I'm sure Batman won the voting.
@@kidcoyoteanarchy No, Batman won. His batarang connected with Cap's head and he was incapacitated enough that Batman had to save him from drowning. It was a acknowledged in the comic itself in dialogue between Steve and Bruce that Steve lost.
17:09 Coup was right "when in doubt, duck it."
Ah yes the matchup everyone wanted Plastic-Man vs the Blob
26:05 have you listened to Aquaman Rousing Song of Heroism?
I hope we get another crossover like this again someday. Not likely, given how petty both companies are, but a man can dream.
Stan Lee himself said that the answer to any “Who would win?” question is “Whoever the writer wants to win.”
If whoever wins the fight is just who the writer wanted to win. Then that's not a very well written fight
@@kyclerealman That's why I like the MSHRPG rules so much. They were written specifically so that you can replay old comic stories. And according to the rules, many hotly debated fights make sense. (e.g. Flash versus someone like Deathstroke...) The rules of a universe can be strange but if the authors stick to them consistently it's okay. An author can let anyone win, but he should make the effort to make the victory make sense in the universe.
It’s all about the “how”.
And they say the same thing… “I loved you in Wall Street!”
Maybe someday we’ll get another DC Marvel crossover, that would be fun
THE CARDBOARD CUBE CAN DO ANYTHING!
Fun fact. I sometimes run TSR's old Marvel RPG. I've used the Surgeon General multiple times.
lol I love that moment with Batman calling captain America his brother great joke dude.
-Wonder Woman picking up Thor's hammer. I'm sorry Captain America, but I think you've been supplanted. -Love Aquaman admitting vulnerability to Namor before reminding us how much of a jerk he is by cheating. -It's a shame that won't do another one of these. We could have Mickey Mouse vs Bugs Bunny. Or Donald Duck vs Daffy Duck. Then again, involving those 2 companies might explain why there will never be another one of these. -Yeah, Flash beating Quicksilver was not a huge surprise there. To repeat my thoughts when I saw their Death Battle, it's like having a main character and a side character fighting. Flash has had more time in total and more time in the limelight to build up his insane feats. -It is nice to see the combatants being good natured about everything. Many still want to play fair, help out their counterparts, or simply avoid actually hurting each other, even the female antihero pair. Really only the Wolverine vs Lobo fight seemed to imply they were actually trying to kill each other.
33:26 i am surprised we haven't gotten fanarts trying to redesign wonder woman with thor's outfit so it looks way better than this. the artists have plenty of options to redesign it 40:48 this is funnier in hindsight, considring later stories like dark nights metal, death metal, the button, and convergence
I love that line Superman squash Spider-Man like a bug. LOL
for all that fighting they're all doing a lot of talking MID-MATCH 🤣
I'm surprised this wasn't mentioned, but this crossover, along with the entirety of Amalgam Comics, is being reprinted as an omnibus in August, making these available at retail for the first time in about 20 years, I believe. There will also a second omnibus released at the same time containing individual crossovers, like Superman Vs The Amazing Spider-Man, and Batman vs The Punisher, among others.
Suggestion for Miller time Daredevil the man without fear. It was frank miller's return to the sightless swashbuckling in the 90s after dark knight returns, year one, and sin city. It's often said Miller did for daredevil what he did for the dark knight in year one. Despite being a 90s marvel comic it would have fit right in with his run on DD in the 80s. Though it does have some Millar isms to it like the random word emphasizes
I have a tradition when I attend Awesome Con: I buy at least one DC/Marvel crossover and this year it was Batman/Captain America and Marvel vs DC. Peter David co-wrote this so that explains why Aquaman and Hulk were delight.
41:44 TBF I just legit squee'd at Jonah and Perry standing up together to protect their staff and getting cavalry'd by Superboy and Spider-man, so apparently I really do care.
Y'know, the Wolverine VS Lobo fight gets me thinking. We don't see what happens behind the bar, and like... It's a common cliché to have characters smoke after sex. Take away what implication you will from this.
In Lobo's own series, he claimed that he was paid to throw the fight with Wolverine by "some bald guy".
Marvel vs dc is such a fun crossover comic that I am surprised we never ever got another crossover comic between both dc and marvel because personally for me I would really love another crossover with marvel and dc especially with my team the super sons with Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy as his little 10 year old self and Damian Wayne robin and spidergirl mayday Parker the daughter of Peter Parker and Mary Jane which would be really awesome and badass to see at least in my opinion.
Beg your pardon but there was another one; JLA/Avengers which Linkara has already reviewed.
@@Wright805 I know about JLA/Avengers and I also thought that crossover was really good but after that crossover we haven't gotten another marvel vs dc crossover in a very long time which is just isn't fair, because if anything there should be another crossover between these two companies again at least in this decade before we all pass away but that's just my opinion.