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This video has actually been finished for well over a month, but back and forth with license holders for the outro delayed it a fair bit and I was too stubborn to drop it. I upload pretty much daily here if you want more content: kzhead.info/tools/dc_JyNaB5VJ0gdWUtWfGDg.html
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I can't imagine Pyro trying to explain to someone why he bought a winter jacket, fingerless gloves, a bulletproof vest, a hatchet, and a shovel all probably in the same week
and a (probably airsoft) gun
And in the spring. It's actually quite warm in the UK currently.
@@Molotov_Milkshake He’s on the watchlist😂
@@Molotov_Milkshake You think he filmed that 7 hour video in a season? What makes you think he filmed this 2 hour video in 1 season?!
just say he was gonna go innawoods and do S.T.A.L.K.E.R. stuff. people who know will get it
The fact he didn't say "The inventory system S.T.A.L.K.E.R. would shamelessly steal 11 years prior" astounds me.
Its literally the same
At least he mentioned it at 1:48:00
Oh god, has it really been that long?
@@Frontgid 2007 💀
@@revolverjesus98 danmkkhh
27:12 my favorite thing about this entire video is that pyrocynical has an actual pickaxe for a bit but he couldn't go outside to grab an actual pebble or rock. absolute god of a gamer
Touching grass? Never happening
bro doesnt leave his house. apart from interviewing the cruelty squad dude
You don't understand, the second he'd walk outside he would be instantly shanked by thirty british men wielding kitchen knifes.
@@DiscoBoi as a British man, I can confirm that this is what would happen
Hey, that's offensive! Not all of them! Some of them can't afford knives. Don't you look down on them broken bottle folk!
Honestly, Pyro's end cutscene could be the game's trailer. And I would be absolutely hooked.
Ik, I love the trailers he does for the games he reviews
Except it kind of gives away the entire plot and twist.
@@midlifecrisi True, but still. I'd be absolutely hooked.
@@midlifecrisiit could be like an easter egg cutscene for 2nd+ playthroughs
@@midlifecrisi the creator of he uses it could easily just cut out some parts that are too reviling.
27:13 Imagine having the budget for a pickaxe… but not a rock
the 80k hittin him hard
Zamn I was just about to comment this.
He can't go outside he's to swag gamer
rocks? pickaxes? is that a Deep Rock Galactic reference?
Tf- and what is with all these youtube bots leaving the most generic comment i've seen and a video link no one wants to watch 🗿
An addition to your theory: I think Tyler propably got the cancer working down in the mines, as dust lung can lead to cancer, and he would be exposed to a lot of dust, repairing electrical fixtures in a coal mine. This explains why there are references to the island being sick/tainted/infested, as the island/mine itself would have caused his illness. In addition it would also explain why the objective is to get to the mine, and destroy the source of the suffering, as his cancer came from down in the mine.
good point
Damn the first intelligent person I'm a youtube comments section
Coal has trace amounts of radioactive material, not something to worry about until your breathing in the dust or burnt fumes fore years on end, that’s why coal power plants give of the more radiation then nuclear reactors, all that exhaust is just let into the air instead of being treated in some way.
Thought he worked as an electrician tho
@@ghostiz6055 an electrician would still have to go down into the mines to replace and fix lighting fixtures and the such
Man, rewatching this video months later knowing the ending makes the whole game hit much harder. I interpret the enemies at the start being cut off by the gate and the radio man as the cathartic idea of suicide, his break from his pain is choosing to take the steps to end his life.
I feel like the rad suit has alot of symbolism. His chemotherapy killing the tumours but also cutting him off physically from the world as he has to leave his paradise and comfort zone
Don't let the thumbnail fool you. If you are in a dark place right now, two hours spent on this video will certainly show you a light at the end of whatever pitch-black hole or tunnel you're in. It sure helped me. Got 'em tears flowing near the end, too. Thank you, Pyrocynical. I hope more people watch this. There is hope. Live on. Don't waste your life.
No there is a better video.
>”erm… i dont like watching motivational videos or religious stuff or meditative crap” >”OMG PURO MADE ANOTHER SPINE CHILLING, SLOW BURN ALL IN LE HEAD MEANINGFUL GAMING VIDEO YASSS” the twink british guy is not that deep, bro
@@surrk1057 , so, just cuz I found some semblance of a will to live from what you consider a not-that-deep guy, it means I'm not supposed to put out my heartfelt message out there? I should have just ended it all right then and there, huh? Instead of stumbling onto this and getting something hopeful in return? If you think making fun of someone who was able to keep pushing forward in life because of a video essay, then I think you need to get yourself checked. And, yeah, I also do get the meme about Pyro making slop for people who love slop. Heck! I, myself, love to have fun with that notion. However, I did seriously find value and meaning in this particular work of his.
@@Dragonamy5 , never said this was the perfect video about this game. There's always a better version of anything out there. That's pretty normal. I have no idea what you're trying to get at with this.
Tbh I listen to this video and the Cry of Fear video too, almost daily because it actually helped me see light at the end of the tunnel and also makes long shifts feel less of a burn
Something to be said about the “Leda” monster, the graveyard monster, and the status monsters is that when they kill you it says “Player killed themself”
yeah i noticed that it was pretty interesting
that's something to do with gzdoom i think, idk
It's just GZDoom not being able to differentiate these kinds of attacks.
Illusion?
@@chainsawplayin It works, tho
Pyro is literally the only content creator, who can make me sit through 2-7 hour long videos about obscure video game mods and British TV shows.
he could probably make a video talking about paint drying and still make it feel like the 2 hours weren't wasted
same, all his videos are so intriguing dont know why tho
@@dooogeo1041 he's an excellent entertainer, the way he constructs his analysis keeps an audience engaged, and the occasional joke is funny.
I really enjoy the salt factory’s in depth videos about games.
*The ETERNAL GOD would do anything for you!!* Even out of love for you he went to the cross as a human!! Philippians 2:5-8
To be fair, i think The Hunter is more of a representation of a cancer, how draining and consuming the fight with the illness is. 'The torment has ended', could also mean that the cancer recessed and now, Tyler is finally free from the illness.
Half agree half disagree? It could be more aggressive cancer or Round 2
I haven't seen anyone point this out, but the mayor of the fort was named Orwell, and the fort was inhabited in 1984
This is just like george orwell’s, uh, book, 1984
That's a reference to the book "Silly Dally" by "George Frontan" made in 2016.
This entire video was edited so incredibly well, no part of it felt like you should've taken it out. The flow and story telling of it all was incredible, easily watched all 2 hours
I really liked that Pyro got all the different props (except rock), tools, clothes, etc. to really show his connection to the game.
Hey skyes
@@chainsawplayin to collect rock, one must leave the house
I was mostly impressed by the ending. Did he export the audio files to lay them over the music?
you know the song at 1:11?
I like how even though Pyro already knows the story, he still makes up theories to lead the viewers astray so that when he actually tells the story it hits so much harder
note that when Pyro theorizes about an "infection" or some disease in any of his videos, it ain’t it
its possible he's simply telling what he assumed when playing that part, but yep, its pretty good storytellin'
True love = the love of God! *God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being* Philippians 2:5-8
@@Hannestv4607 yea yea i dont care im going to go steal a tv and throw it in a dumpster
@@Hannestv4607 there is no god on Fort Oasis
I cannot describe even after all this time the sadness that I felt in humanity when I saw that tweet within the first minute of this video.
What happened?
@@sharplily he's referring to the guy who doesn't understand what proportions are.
@@FrahdChikun i require a link good fellow
@@sharplily 1:03
"what are those signs" lmfao
Most people imagine depression as just being sad if theyve never been. But it’s also really fucken scary. At one point I was contemplating suicide almost a decade ago when I was a freshman in high school. I was going to try and OD on my meds at the time but i stopped last second. That night I went to the hospital and was admitted into the psychiatric ward. It really helped me. I was in therapy before and after this. Now im a senior in college, working on finishing my bachelors in general psychology and ive been off meds (with doctors permission!! Dont go cold turkey, contact your doc first) for a few months now. I still sometimes get sad or have my moments of anxiety but Ive seen the depths and ive been working a lot. Im far happier now with a better vision on life.
Glad you’re getting better dude!
Remember the beginning of the game’s message. “I could handle it…I had already gone through so much worse. At the end of the day, i still had me.” So much more heart wrenching when you realize that by the end, he didn’t even have that.
In this case, "Me" (that is, Tyler himself) was his own greatest enemy. Lying to him, leading him astray, cutting him off from every human connection. And, ultimately, convincing him to end it all.
I get it. Because of the voice on the radio.
You know what I renember? I finally finished it and ACCIDENTLY was SO conservative, I did a meele only run with barely using my gun and ended the game (before picking up the shelves and finish the final part) with 100 magnum rounds and 100 shotgun rounds And I still had that after truly finishing it. All that while struggling in meele and having to play really smart just cause I wanted to be so-so conservative...
it's heartwrenching only if you count the part with dealing with the fate of his daughter which means he finally decided to accept what happened and move on to the afterlife, however if you skip that part, imo, I kinda feel like that it's all on him and not as heartwrenching because you choose to make him into someone who kinda deserves it and he'll still be trapped in that limbo until he can change, I like how the devs made it so that the player can literally both interpret and tailor Tyler to suit how you view the whole experience, there's also the new game+ to enhance the experience of your previous choice
27:11 It is hilarious to me that Pyro acquired a ton of outdoorsman gear to dress up in, and even used a gnarly looking pickaxe for this bit, but couldn't manage to find a decently sized pebble. The man is truly a cave troll that never goes out, love it
Apparently rocks and pebbles are a rarity in Great Britain
@@yardantosemito5024 What kind of horrid place has no rocks?
@@OrionDawn15 Well Britain
@@OrionDawn15 Japan; but it's mainly ores like iron, copper, and aluminum along with coal and crude oil. Remember: there's a reason other than insane levels of nationalism and extreme pride from it's citizens that Imperial Japan was so willing to invade other places and take their resources before and during WWII, along with being willing to work with the Axis.
@@dantethewanderer4989 Interesting.
I know this will probably fall upon deaf ears but I must say Pyro, the way you formatted this video was at the very least, absolutely beautiful. You practically played a game with the viewer mentioning the crack in the wall as a possibility just to plant the idea that there's another way around the boss. That and the game itself is absolutely beautiful. The story of Tyler with his battle of losing everything, and him genuinely losing it all before you the player can change the ending of how it all unfolds is absolutely gorgeous, I have nothing but respect for Pyro and Wadaholic, the combination of the tragic storyline beautifully crafted by Wadaholic and Pyros editing was so incredible I was almost in tears. Thank you both for this :)
I saw this!
As someone who's in a pretty dark place myself, I can relate with what happens throughout the game. The reluctance to admit that improvements have been made. The perspective twisting to suit my depression telling me that everyone hates me. And the heavy desire for suicide. It's horrible, to the point of it being suffocating. I try to see the good in life, but it's really tough when the negativity tends to weigh more. I have tried to get into therapy. I've called the suicide hotlines many times over. Nothing really seems to work. But knowing I'm not alone, that's all I need to know. I am not alone throughout this. Neither are you. Getting help can be tough, especially if you are as closed of a book as I am. But if I can hold off for two years of this non-stop, then you can too. Stay strong
"Tyler There was no other way. Even when we beat the disease, it was still a death sentence. She left us, everyone left us. The isolation, the loneliness. Tyler : We don't. I don't have to take it anymore." I cry tears as i write this, because i can really relate to this.
Turn on the light then
just remember, this advice may be common but just remember suicide is cowardly
@@Dino17000 true
BEAT THE SPOOPY MONSTERS KILL THE DEAD SPACE 2 NECROMORPHS AND BECOME HAPPY (Pls do get better tho this is a joke)
Even if there were a hidden 'leave immediately' ending, it'd still fit into the story the game tells. Without the closure of finishing the game, you'll eventually be drawn back to it, much like Tyler's struggle.
Would've been a nice touch IF after you first finish the game as it is intended(you hang yourself after you literally not fight to survive but in reality you fight in order to be able to hang yourself) there would be a "good ending" in which you start your next playthrough and you will have the option to just leave using the boat therefore completly avoiding falling in love with the island and its ppl which results in you going back to the mainland and living there the rest of your life or something,idk a tiny little story touch i guess,tho again avaliable only after you fifnish the game as intended so you can make sense as to what is happening and why you know.
In a way, quitting the game is that ending, especially since is gives you that "End the isolation" message
@@user-DATA_BANK either that or its just killing yourself early, both fit with ending the isolation.
To be honest, the "leave immediately" ending would probably just have the game fade to a black screen before just playing the opening cutscene again. Showing that he can always leave that place, but he hasn't addressed what brought him there, so he's doomed to return.
I like the fact that they actually allow you to disobey the voice and give Tyler a good ending, not done enough. Just taking the boat back out would be to run from his issues, but to defy the voice is to face the issues
kzhead.info/sun/m9qkYpGIq5-udKM/bejne.html Its finally here Just kidding please dont kill me
Really good symbolism from the developer
not only to face the issues but also fight back against the thoughts in your head telling you that nobody loves you or that you are worthless since everyone in Tyler’s life loved and cared for him
And the fact that it's done not in just 1 decision to either "Kill Yourself" or "Dont", but in several smaller steps/discoveries; symbolic of how fighting back suicidal depression in real life isn't instantaneous but thorugh small victories.
Also, it's one guy who made this mod.
Imagine all the construction work Pyro is going to do with the pickaxe he bought for a 5 second gag..
I cannot put into words how much i need Pyro to do a video on Fear & Hunger.
he said he's working on a Fear and Hunger video on one of his recent videos but obviously he's still working on it and I bet we will see it here soon or sometime this year
27:11 I love how he was able to buy an entire pickaxe but not go outside and just pick up a rock
I just noticed that lol
this comment was stolen
@@remembersongettinghitisgay4893 did i steal it or did someone else steal my comment?
I mean considering the UK is simply a barren wasteland it would be pretty hard to find a rock, let alone any nature
He is a gamer, going outside is a curse worse than death
It's interesting how this game portrays depression. It presents the path to self harm and suicide as the easiest, most straight forward path, but actually overcoming those demons and pushing onwards requires much more effort and persistence. Also it's weird watching this as someone named Tyler
Might make it more immersive lol
its even more of a mindfuck when not only are you named Tyler, but also have depression. Honnestly, the good endings message really resonated with me.
I think that is a completely true statement (even if selfharm and suicide doesnt apply to everyone, those are understandable references for the misery one's going through) To stay in ones "comfort zone", meaning just living the way it is right now with that pain and misery and cope with it somehow is easier. but to overcome depression (or many other mental health issues) one has to figure out what the problems are to fix them. One after another even if it means stress, struggle, being tiring. Therapy helps in the way that you're told HOW to fight. But still you're the one doing it. To just keep going and keep pressing that "comfort zone" of yours and keep fighting. It will get better if you keep at it. THAT is hard. (Love and respect goes out to everyone here in the comment-section fighting this battle. Just Keep going
Welcome home Tyler
no such thing, it's called being a weakling. Natural selection, no sympathy for such people
I love how pyro got stuff like a pickaxe, a jacket, gasmask etc. but couldn't get a rock
This game looks incredible. It hardly even looks like a doom mod. It’s amazing to see the dedication put into this.
Because it isn't, it's a GZdoom mod. This means things like true 3D are on the table.
This is unironically becoming one of the best pieces of content on the platform, keep up the good work. Its great to see passion on a site slowly becoming more corporate.
More corporate? Edit: ohhhhh i thought he said cooperative
yea
why did you add the unironically part LOL
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@@spoofare8202 because redundant words = epic
dude, I love the little trailer you made at the end!! really good vid with your cosplay
seeing the things said from the radio throught the game with the context was nice
Hello Sr Pelo :D
The 70k was worth it 😭
Hola Amigo!
It's the funni man!
The hunter is legit terrifying. The fact that each chapter gives you a time limit before he arrives and the fact your only shown a prompt like 10 minutes before the hunter arrives means you have to keep track of time yourself while making a mad dash to the end. It’s a terrifying and frantic race against the clock plus the red coloring really adds to the terrifying frantic atmosphere as well.
I like how near the end you used the word "manage" in reference to Tyler's dark thoughts, like how Radio Tyler (The embodiment of Tyler's depression) was able to control the doors and see where Player Tyler was, the end goal of the game is to reach Radio Tyler, who is in the control room, you're going up there to get your depression out of this place, and take control, or rather, take it back.
This is a small detail but I highly appreciate it. The first 3/4 of the video is fairly lighthearted but as we start nearing the final quarter, everything starts to get more somber, less jokes, more grounded. Until eventually the finale is reached where all bets are off and everything is played out in full with the facts being given straight instead of being clouded by jokes. It’s a fantastic storytelling method and while it is small and seems obvious in hindsight to do, it helps set a certain tone and lets the viewer know to “pay attention, shit is going down”.
very good analysis.
That’s why I like his videos so much He knows when to stop the shenanigans It’s perfectly balanced As all things should be
the part of the video where he said you can ignore the radio guy made me cry so much
@@goji-0045 Hearing the whole story up to the point where Tyler was going to kill himself was what got me.
@@Flome810 i was able to hold it in at that time, i was mostly shocked but when he said we can reject the radio and that we have a choice, not cutting off connections, the fact that he was making progress, etc that shit warmed my heard to hard
It's always the best when you're watching a video like this and you become emotionally attached to the world, story, and gameplay. Props to Pyrocinical for honoring the work of wadaholic with a full two hour long video. I can imagine how rewarding it is to have something like this made on your work.
hey i know you
pyros videos are legit some of the best on youtube now i'd play this game but me no like scary things also its the funny sussy music person
@@ThatNerdAlbert squid gam
@@ThatNerdAlbert Grow up and stop being so soft
@@aurum316 no u
This game is a good depiction of the personal hell one puts themselves as a result of their own self destruction and it looks super unique from the rest as well. Still can’t believe this is on the Doom 2 engine of all games.
"Get rid of that yee-yee ass haircut, Tyler." truly the best voice acting ever
I absolutely love the way Tyler says “ Tyler, I was wrong “ it sounds like he struggles to admit that he can get better, but in the end pushes through it to improve himself
Yeah, given that the voice actor was probably an ameateur (i haven't researched anything). Their delivery and production of his voice lines are amazing and executed incredibly well.
@@fanrosefabrose9457 thankies
@@TheMisterCat omg you're welcome babe
@@fanrosefabrose9457 get a room
Even after everything, he was still wrong.
i think something really cool is how when you're getting the radiation suit, the tumor you see is getting smaller and smaller, like chemotherapy at work. the whole island is a sort of happy place for tyler, evidenced by the painted shutters, and the fact that tyler has expressed his love for the inhabitants and the island itself. however, it has been warped in recent memories, being the only happiness tyler can recall, making him bitter of it's existence. it's littered with reminders of his past, and the sadness that comes with it.
Read my name actually
I love how pyro's editing is so adhd friendly like holy shit my mind was well stimulated this whole time i love this video
1:17:17 I think this letter may actually be foreshadowing the ending twist of this all being in TJ’s head, since he would have learned to put himself in a mental sanctuary (for him, Fort Oasis) from his therapist, and now the darker side of his mind has manipulated that strategy by turning his paradise into his torture chamber
I just love it when games make the route to the good ending a little harder. It fits perfectly into the themes of the story. The bad ending is easy, it’s straight forward. Where as the good ending takes some work and a willingness to ignore the literal voice in your head until you. There’s something beautiful about the mere presence of the good ending and the ending or new game plus.
I really like that it didn't just settle for the spec ops thing, as that would have given me a similar reaction. It didn't just say "You could have quit at any time but you didn't. All the progress you made was negative hur dur." It actually allowed you to go out of your way to help tyler. This is something that IMO would've worked really well if someone wanted to make a game genuinely about facing consequences for killing monsters in an rpg, as opposed to undertale which gives you, better lore, more characterization, easier difficulty, and a good ending for following the massive [HINT: The monsters are people too, and it bad to hurt them].
Until you what?
@@derpfluidvariant0916 monsters are people too but they also try to kill you. Though personally i like how the best ending is the hardest one.
Also, the good ending adding some extra difficulty is a nice way to point you on the right path.
I love a well done good ending. I think the worst implementation ive seen of a good ending is subway midnight, where a few of the puzzles have little extra bits to them and if you dont do all of them then you just die at the end and get a bit splash screen saying bad end.
I find myself wondering if, with the twist in mind, the reason the island that Tyler so dearly loved and thought of as his dream come true and "home" ending up as such a hostile place to you and with the ultimate goal being the irradiated mine, is because deep down Tyler understood that all of his problems truly did start with the island and his adoration of it, from deciding to permanently stay there, trying to force a loved one to follow his lifestyle, and him ultimately getting cancer from presumably inhaling toxic substances inside there. It was never a paradise. He threw his life away in a spur of the moment decision to live there and couldn't cope with going back to the mainland or other people not loving it as much as he did. Now it's a decayed ruin that wants to take his life all over again. His darkness blames it on an infestation, the illness, but the island was always just a flight of whimsy and fantasy that was never going to last. Hiding danger, and for all Tyler talks about feeling isolated and lonely, the island already WAS that, he was just too caught up in his happy little fantasy of being in a small tight knit sea community to care. And here in the present, the island is once again the center of a fantasy, but now it's a dark, horrid one. In the bad ending you could say it's a symbol of how betrayed and isolated Tyler felt by everyone around him as everything began to go wrong. But in the good ending (and the Hunter Ending) I think you transform the fantasy into Tyler accepting that neither fantasy was ever good for him, that the place he called Home was never somewhere he should have stayed. That Fort Oasis was not his Happy Place. Hell, even the name could be symbolic. An Oasis in the desert, a perfect island in the sea, but ultimately just a mirage. The island took his life. And the island was going to do it again. Both times, by his own choice. Coming to terms with that and truly leaving the place behind is one of the main keys to getting the good endings, where you end up in a beautiful field away from the sea.
That was an amazing and very well articulated comment. Never thought about it in that way but that is definitely what Wadaholic was going for. One of the best parts of Pyro making this mod finally get the love it deserves is that it opens up a lot of discussion with people who may not have known about it otherwise.
I wonder if Tyler also gained arcanaphobia In fort oasis, maybe with the massive amount of bugs and spiders in the mines.
I agree with your entire comment, and honestly the fact that the name "Fort Oasis" and it's symbolism never struck me is mind-blowing in itself.
I hope even if they're maybe not together again that he gets to be in Leda & Cora's lives & he lets them into his :)
And the letter about using a happy place to cope only supports this, especially when you see "happy place" written in blood at the end of the game. Everything he's gone through caused him to develop an unhealthy obsession with this island, turning it into the only place he could be happy. When everyone left he lost the one thing he built his entire mental stability on.
It's a really small detail but I absolutely adore how your ending summary puts "I don't have to take it anymore" and "...I was wrong" right next to each other, you can almost hear the difference in his voice! As silly as it sounds I've personally been going through the same thing (finding better ways to cope w/ depression and reaching out to others) and that sentiment is SO real--the almost begrudging admission to yourself that you were wrong to want to die, the fact that the road to recovery is literally fighting yourself every step of the way, really meaningful stuff; genuinely dude this video fuckin' slaps
I have been so heartbroken over the fact that I can't seem to get Total Chaos to work correctly on my rig with the textures not loading in right. But thankfully I have been able to enjoy it vicariously through this video.
I'm sure someone else has probably already said this but I think the New Game+ actually represents Tyler's cancer treatment. The bloody walls, the growths, etc. were representative of that in the original game and the Hunter itself even looks like a man made of tumors - it being unkillable would be Tyler's feelings of hopelessness over the years of treatment. And every chapter is like the treatments pushing it back, giving Tyler a bit more time to live but still feeling hunted by it as it hacks away at his body. Okay, now that I've actually watched the rest of that section, I feel even more sure: "The torment has ended" being Tyler's remission. The fact that you do kill the Hunter after so much pain and effort just keeping it at bay, really solidifies the idea that this is him beating his cancer.
Your ideas are cool stranger! Didn't even read into that before I saw this comment tbh.
i like your theory!
It's a good theory but one hole is that Tyler didn't feel "free" when the cancer was cured so the ending wouldn't be as bright if it was just about the cancer.
@@alfalldoot6715 As someone who hasn't played the game, allow me to ask: How is his situation "bright" after he defeats his cancer? While the game says "the torment is over", it is entirely possible that isn't actually brightening his life - he doesn't feel all the way "better" or "cured" since everything negatively psychological still exists. The whole point of the story - at least, to me - is that overcoming his cancer didn't actually make his life any better. Once he "survived", he still had to live with everyone being done with his "shit". The love of his life was gone, the home he felt so close to became empty and dead, etc.
@@gabby3036 Tyler at the end of ng+ exits his home into a bright and colorful field, that sounds pretty bright to me
The fact he made a happy ending made me feel so much better and it didnt at all take away from the feel of the game
I'll be honest, the happy ending was perfect until the invisible wall part which made me laugh lmao
Especially since the true/good ending is so obscure that it's almost impossible to get it without outside help. Not to mention that the game never even hints at the mere existence of a different ending
@@tabnk2 wich is fitting in the context you need help, to get better you don't know there is a different answer until we tell you there is one its bullshit for sure, but quite fitting
@@solarsystem4192 holy shit that's some meta storytelling right there
@@solarsystem4192 no truer words than this
thank you for playing this so i don't have to, i think there was free therapy in there somewhere so i got something good out of this video without having to spend money or time
mfw the game is free
You should play it. It's by far my favorite horror game. And well it is free. Just gotta get doom 2 from "parallel sources" like me.
This game should have been the real breaking bad lore But for real the video was done so well really worth the time
The fact that this is specifically a doom mod made me imagine a special "back to the roots" game mode where you do in fact play as doom guy and just shred through all the abominations of the island effortlessly and now I can't stop thinking about that
You see, the Back to The Roots mode symbolizes just how much Doom Guy shreds.
i thought of something similar that is just the entire game but "doomified", basically instead of being a horror game its just a creepy doom 2 wad
That would be really fun
If it is indeed just a doom mod, you can load up the wad as a levelpack in gzdoom, or whatever sourceport of your choice.
Tyler is now living with Leda and has the best depression treatment. Plus he played Doom too much.
When I saw you talking about the Radiation Suit, It looked similar to the art of the "Radio Man" during the beginning parts of the video. By the end, It makes more sense now. That was pretty clever!
My thoughts exactly. I saw the mask and thought "That's the suit the radio man has"
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Hol up.
no its mf doom🙄
fun fact: one of such mods that make a game completely different was the original Team Fortress, which was a Quake mod
42:55 that RDR2 jumpscare tho
I love how both this game and Cry of Fear have alternate endings that basically make you go out of your way to do things differently to overcome your illness. It's a powerful message and shows how the devs treated the subject with care.
yeah
It's fantastic. Shows that the road to recovery isn't easy at all. It won't fix everything either. But at the end of the day, it's a path worth taking.
not to mention how (i forget if its the same for cry of fear but for this one) it makes the game harder when you try to overcome the illness like having to miss out on certain weapons and ammo showing how its easy to let the illness overcome you but if you try hard enough, you can come overcome it
Bloodborne also teaches you this. You cannot solve an issue that requires an axe with a sword.
@@loopgodjohansen you can if you try hard enough
the leda enemy behaving like scp-173 makes a lot of sense, because the enemy only moves when you aren't looking, just like how she moved away from the island when the MC (forgot his name, just came back to comment this) wasn't able to see her
Wow, it could be a coincidence, but if it isn't, that's actually brilliant. Also the name is Tyler, even I only remember 'TJ' for some reason.
@@vydave it's probably "Tyler J. Scott" but we have no idea what J stands for.
@@Ludwig_Perpenhente Justice
@@Prank3dd weird name Mr. Tyler Justice Scott
@@Ludwig_Perpenhente Jay
Coming back to this video after while because I’m reading a book in my senior year called “When Breath Becomes Air”. It’s a memoir of a neurosurgeon developing severe cancer and it documents his experiences and life after his diagnosis. He knows he’s going to die and stuff. There’s a part where he discusses the inkling of hope he was given after his tumor shrank, so begins doing more physical therapy associated with building strength and endurance for long and brutal surgery stretching hours on end. He end up not being able to go through the the whole thing because he gets cold feet, so his assistant has to finish the last few steps. He can’t go back to normal because of his cancer diagnosis, he’s lost something that made him whole. It’s a pretty interesting parallel to draw tbh.
Pan fried Spam is honestly such a W type of cheap food. if you're broke and down bad cause of inflation, get a can of spam, drop it out of the can, (poke holes in the bottom of the can with a knife if the spam won't slide out) And once you slice it up like a thicker slice of ham and then bam. pan fry it up on both sides it'll get slightly crispy on both sides and its absolutely fire.
Pyrocynical when he sees a horror game made on a retro engine where the supernatural plot and monsters are symbolic of the player character’s mental health:
Mental illness symbolism has been done many times over but when a game does it well, god damn, it does it _really_ well
"in le head funny"
Did you just make my day by showing Skyblivion for 1.5 seconds?!?
W
He made OUR day, comrade
yes, yes he did
Read my name actually
I love the project so much, amazing job dude.
I’ve watched this video like 8 times now and it somehow never gets old nice job pyro
One thing I wanna point out....the fact the radiation ticks up when you approach the final note on the table...means that the note itself is the source of the radiation, and Tyler only sees it as toxic. The note that ripped him away from paradise. God this game is fucking amazing, I can't believe it was done in DOOM 2. How the hell was that even pulled off!?
i cant believe this level of narrative only exists in the most obscure doom mod in existence thank you for putting this game out in the world pyro
Making this game in Doom 2 is like turning a stick into a spider and selectively breeding it into a dolphin that you can teach how to drive a tank.
It's Gzdoom, which is actually Doom 1, Doom 2, Doom 2's expansions TNT/Plutonia, Heretic, Hexen, Strife, Chex Quest and a couple of other games, and then the port's developers added more features and code languages to use. For instance, the ability to make sloping floors comes from Hexen. Back before universal map formats we had to set maps to run 'doom in hexen format' to have access to the line definitions that let us slope a floor.
Damn 😂😂😂
That ending montage of clips and voices…was freaking awesome
Usually when I watch videos that are over an hour, I would sometimes get bored and watch something else. However pyros editing and narration is just so well done.
I guess Silent Hill pioneered the concept, but I do love horror games that are allegories for mental illness. The darkest parts of your mind are fucking terrifying, and most of the time you have to confront them alone. The idea that the most obvious path to reach the game's "goal" is to burn your connections and destroy your memories hits incredibly close to home for most people who have dealt with depression. When everything feels so bleak and your mind is made up, it takes real willpower to not push people away from you. You think you're protecting them from your inevitable end, but you're only leading yourself farther into darkness.
The fact that there’s two endings about hope has me believe the canon ending is Tyler overcoming his depression, and beginning the path to reconstructing his life. The game is a story of hope disguised as a survival horror nightmare.
A survival horror nightmare is a pretty good explanation of trying to get out of the mindset Tyler is in.
This might get washed up in the sea of comments but i think the monsters are also trying to help Tyler somewhat. They’re trying to stop him from reaching the mines, prevent him from reaching his inevitable resolve. They might be just people IRL trying to help Tyler but he sees them as hostile creatures who hate him, when they might actually be trying to help him.
That's not a bad theory it's honestly probably one of the best ones I've read so far
Fun fact: The creator of this game is the same person who worked on one of the most unknown masterpieces of a movement shooter known as Turbo Overkill. I guarantee at least 95% of you watching have no idea what that is. This video is older than Turbo Overkill itself (I would assume, I haven't compared dates), so I doubt ANYONE will read this comment, but if you do, go play that game, it deserves more attention.
So, funfact about the "Happy Place" meditation the therapist suggests: The description given would be a recipe for disassociation. While that technique can be useful in helping people with all sorts of things, it is also the basis of a memory palace for instance, and it can be used to help control mood, if a person using it has the wrong experiences with it and the space becomes associated with fear or anxiety or loss of control, or if they don't develop some method of controlling the happy place such as conditions they need to be in in order to enter it, the person can end up overusing it, which can lead to a disassociation problem. Basically, your brain starts to have issues thinking of your physical surroundings and the fact you are physical and within your surroundings. While this is perfectly fine for very short periods of time, such as when you look into your memory to remember where something is, extended periods of time in disassociation leads to things like body dysmorphia, impulse control issues, or even delusions and hallucinations. So basically what I'm trying to say is that the Therapist our radio dude had may have actually made his issues worse by barely teaching his patient about the things to avoid with this coping technique. How's that for some Silent Hill shit?
I have been "playing" in a "happy place" since I was young, it just started as a way of making my own stories. But when i saw it in the videogame, I get shivers. I also have some of the "symptom" you describe
OMORI reference
@@Dervitox ground yourself. Live in your senses for a long while, taking the time to pay attention to them. See a therapist if you need to and tell them about what you think you are dealing with. And remember, that space in your head doesn't have to be a bad thing, but it does have to be used responsibly. In addition, take time to ask yourself what you are feeling, and think about that, so it becomes more manageable to deal with them.
@@S20171 Jimmy and the pulsating mass reference.
@@_Tzer LETS GOOOOOO SOMEONE ELSE HAS PLAYED THAT INCREDIBLY UNDERRATED GAME
Pyro: I'm greedy and like money Also Pyro: loses out on a potential £85K(?) for artistic integrity Godspeed man
@newname⤵️ You too
@Depp Shut up
What?
I just realized he used a cruelty squad sound affect when he was talking about the bleed affect
Pyro making theories for the viewers while knowing the story makes the actual story slap with just that much more force. I love how he makes the video as if you are playing the game itself, not watching a video on it.
Pyro’s long form content is truly special. The amount of depth, gameplay, storytelling and humor is perfectly balanced and the music is amazing. Don’t ever stop, Niall.
At this point, he's basically uploading movies lmao. I love it
ok can we shut up
Who's niall
@@faderahade8172 who's Joe
yea
The smile that grew on my face when you started discussing how to counter the depression Tyler holds within himself, man... There's always another way. No matter how hard it is. Seeing that represented in gameplay just...hits so hard.
It was a lovely hidden ending, leaving the player with the thought that if they ignore the commanding voice that haunts them, they may find what actually needs to be done to escape it and get what they really want. Really awesome vid from Pyro, as always! He’s turned me onto a lot of awesome stuff lately.
I love pyros long form videos so much. I regularly put on the utopia one when working on stuff or bored and often times make it all the way through without being bored or realizing how long I’ve been watching and that vid is legit 8 hours long.
27:13 bro couldn't go outside and pickup a rock
If I had a nickel for every time pyro reviewed a horror mod about someone having severe hallucinations representing their internal struggles and mental illness, fighting off mind demons with regular bullets and weapons, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice
Hey, two nickels could buy you a semester in college if college was way cheaper. 🌈🌈~perspective~🌈🌈
Wouldn't it be 3 though? I mean there's Lost in Vivo as well
YOU BEAT ME TO IT BRUH
Spoken by a wise dr doofenshmirtz
Don't forget both having multiple endings where the main-character either commits die or manages to overcome it
27:11 it's funny how many props pyro got for this video but he couldn't be arsed to go out and pick up a rock for this
Proof that Pyro doesn't go outside, let's go?
@@fcantilWhen le pyro reliases that he cant order a rock like he did with other items and because he never goes outside he edits the rock in.
31:33 i dont know why but this is my favorite bit. honestly pyro these long videos talking about games and how well they are is truely inspiring!
Okay, so I’m only half way through a year-old video at this point, but I think my favorite touch that hasn’t been mentioned (at least let) is the death messages. Like how the doors that killed him say “Player went insane…” or that thing in the graveyard said “Player killed himself.”
You know with the ending in mind. I wonder if the invisible enemy In the grave yard is a representation of Tyler's cancer? It's invisible, comes out of no where with no warning, and it's close to a part of Tyler's mind he hid away.
It also blocked his path and led to a harder recovery because the cancer wasn't the only issue.
"I'll be honest... I'm a huge coward." Your Cry of Fear video starts off with that line and it excites me. It's one of those videos that's long enough to rewatch from time to time without it getting stale. And now we have this. And now I have another video to watch back to back. No line to start it off but a melancholy game start track. Can't wait to binge watch this into oblivion throughout the year.
Have you watched his utopia video?
@@totororaptors I have. it took me 3 days. Pain. Worth it though.
@@azmayeenzchowdhury8484 I have thougth that i should watch the series before watching his video. The thing is that it seams very hard to find it. So it migth just be better to watch his video. What do you think? Have you seen the series? Should i try to find and watch it before his video or should i just watch the video?
@@totororaptors I have! I loved it but I can't rewatch it. The fact that the series never finishes in the UK is upsetting. Which is a shame since its one of Pyro's best work and I would have loved to rewatch that one as well.
I kind of wish that the "Boat" Ending existed. It could've been represented as Tyler never staying to begin with and returning to mainland.
Whenever I get bored I watch this whole video… I have watched this 7 times
Easily one of the highest quality videos on the platform
INFAM JJ?!?!
@@NerddoYT NERDDO?!?!
@@tennisthelegend FBI?!?!
@@esa6321 esa?!?!
@@1chighost82 1CHIGHOST?!?!
"There was no other way. Even when we beat the dicease, it was still a death sentence." This is probably Tyler telling himself that even if he beat his cancer, he would still feel isolated and abandoned. The writing in this game is splendid and dark in such a fascinating way.
The entire video is absolutely perfect! From the story and how you explained what the deeper lore is and everything
1:48:35 if anyone wants to know what this music is it’s called “to see more light” and it’s by Collin Stenson The thumbnail should look like a bird
I like how Pyro went out of his way to make a collection of items related to the game. *There's just something about having a giant burlap sack labeled FLOUR behind him*
i fuckin loved when he held the pickaxe and then had to photoshop a rock in like its the less realistic thing to get
Tyler killing himself in the mines might be related to his Lung Cancer. Maybe he worked in the mines, or the fumes from all the industrial work gave him lung cancer. So him choosing to make the mines his final place of rest might be a metaphor for how he sees his experience with cancer as what metaphorically killed him, separating him from his "paradise" and ruining his connections with everyone.
@@adend1233 maybe dont go into the comments before finishing the video
@@adend1233 u got Ratio’d
@@lickthebishop3174 🤓
It would genuinely make a lot of sense. I was wondering during the video if he had smoked or was around a lot of smoke or dangerous fumes which resulted in his cancer. Having that theory in mind its truly even more devastating that this has all happened to him. I'm glad there's still an ending where he is able to make it out on the other side.
I'd add as well that it could also be irrational resentment to the mines. Since the mines dried up at Fort Oasis, it caused the Fort to shut down. So, he sees all the troubles coming from the mines as they caused his Paradise to be abandoned before he could return
I can't get over this being a mod for Doom 2. That's so amazing. I look at what you can do in this game and how it looks, and then I think this was done in the Doom 2 engine and I just can't believe it.
56:49 the pure folding of his point after they spawned in💀
i also noticed that when you died to most enemies, the text on the left corner says you killed yourself. dont know if thats an engine thing but seems like foreshadowing to whats actually going on. super interesting video, mad props. one thing that bothers me though, the report note written in 1991 talks about events that happen in 1994 😅😅
mitäs vittuu deata täällä :D
Mut hei 4:0
Deata :D
Yeah, doom 2 had a kill feed system, like in Quake
I noticed it as well the 91 and 94
Pyro has unironically become the best channel for analysis. He’s really well spoken and knows how to combine that with humor perfectly. Top tier as always.
Try MauLer
@@mechcannon Mauler? Lmao.
@@mechcannon Long man bad (but unironically)
@Abu Find out for yourself man. He's great at what he does, people are just easily misled
@Abu Yep, the short answer is that he's not worth watching. The long answer requires a lot more articulation. MauLer is a video essayist and a host of EFAP. His video essays are long winded, repetitive garbage. He should learn a thing or two about editing a script, because he regularly repeats himself without adding or elaborating on anything, just writing the same statement in different ways. "This film has earned the title of being very left leaning." "This film has very much pushed an agenda." "I'm simply pointing out that the film is clearly left leaning, which is frustrating for everybody who enjoys Star Wars and does not lean left." "Those who love the film had to theorize plots and fan theories..." "They have to create fan theories..." "They have to create their own story in their own heads..." "This would be an example of someone writing the script for Ryan." "Stop writing the script for them it's really annoying me." "...but there is something about them you guys may not have noticed, people writing Ryan Johnson's script for him." MauLer is the definitive example of a college student who has nothing interesting to say, who will bloat out their paper with a bunch of filler and regurgitation to meet a word count. MauLer fanboys will uncritically respond to detractors of him by saying "long man bad," because they're very unwilling to accept that so many people versed with superior essayists (many of which make videos that are just as long as MauLer's) find his videos to lack substance. Him and his friends / guests regularly abuse the use of the word "objectively" to the point it looses it's original meaning. Objectively: In a way that is based on facts and not influenced by personal beliefs and feelings. Art: the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power. "Objectively good" and "objectively bad" are oxymoronic statements, objectively. People using information in a piece of art to inform their conclusions on the art doesn't make their opinion any less of an opinion, or even make their assessment on information in the art factually correct. Mauler made a lot of mistakes in his Dark Souls 2 video on the PvP mechanics, a lot of what he states is just factually wrong. No critic is infallible to being factually wrong on something, and them obsessing with making claim to their critique as "objective" is laughable. The people on the EFAP crew don't even make a good argument for their own position on this matter. Shadiversity in his wealth of infinite genius, made a video that argued for objectivity in art so poorly, it only reinforces the notion of subjectivity. He says there are different standards that different people will judge art by. So in other words... objectivity is: 1. something that is popularly believed (this is somehow not opinion based). 2. a made up, arbitrary standard that validates a position (also not an opinion apparently). EFAP gets worse. Imagine a whole podcast that regularly has guests like Aydin Paladin who cite "sources" like Quillette (eugenicist, pseudoscience quackery) in her videos, or E;R (a cryptofascist who's comment sections are littered with with pro Hitler and other far right talking points. His Steven Universe videos are a very blatant example of making fascist ideology more palpable to those who don't pay attention and assume it's all just jokes. On his alternate channel, one of his Steven Universe videos is basically just a "name the Jew" compilation. He's also admitted to saying that he brings people to come to the "Jewish Question" by joking "until the punchline really lands." In one his Death Note videos, he made fun of Heather Heyer's murder that happened during the Unite the Right rally).
Pyro here's a tip for spam to actually taste good. 1. Slice in to thin peices. 2. Cook till brown. 3 put with some chips and beans and consume
22:12 Yeah but you can bind dodge to a key and then disable the double tap input. I bound it to one of my mouse buttons and it's super useful, especially for the nutty movement tech for speedruns. I don't even want to think about how many other people have said this, or if it gets brought up later as a joke.
I love how even Tyler's mind says, "Dont bother killing the enemies" as if he still cares about his connections and inner demons
That's a nice way of looking at it, as less of a suggestion of nihilistic coldness as it portrays itself but secretly a vain attempt in hoping to not have to completely destroy more things that he Tyler wants to hold close.
I like both these thoughts. If I'm following, that we can identify with/as our destructive tendencies and desire to preserve them because of that identification. I also like the idea that Tyler's 'don't bother' is a still a 'knowing' resignation from trying so long to conflict with his demons, where finding a less tensioned way to approach them might be better. He is the guide in some way. Maybe he now finally knows that the monsters are symptoms rather than the source.
In my opinion it demonstrates the tenacity of Tyler's loved ones, much to the frustration of depressed Tyler. They hold on to him, almost unkillable. It's almost a waste of time to push them away, as they notice his struggle and it only worries them more.
They don't come often but I love when he does these long form disections of videogames. The narration, the editing, the memes, it's all pure gold.
I love you ☺️
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Far cry 4 review
@@shagarumedic Fat Cry 4*
@@Flome810 beat me to it lol love the pfp btw
"Tyler There was no other way. Even when we beat the disease, it was still a death sentence. She left us, everyone left us. The isolation, the loneliness. Tyler : We don't. I don't have to take it anymore." I cry tears as i write this, because i can really relate to this. Every depressed person will understand very well those words.