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What if Mexico accepted the Zimmermann Telegram from Germany and joined the Central Powers by attacking the United States during World War One? This video covers what could have happened in this scenario
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Timestamps
0:00 Mexico attack
0:38 Bolshevik Revolution
0:56 Brest-Litovsk
1:42 French Capitulation
2:25 German Victory
3:24 Mexican Capitulation
3:46 New World
4:04 Patriotic War
5:53 Bulgarian Capitulation
6:36 Ottoman Capitulation
6:50 Last Months of the War
8:13 German Surrender
Music
Hearts of Iron III - They Are Bombing Us
Hearts of Iron III - Well Oiled War Machine
Hearts of Iron II - Achtung, Panzer!
ЖЕСТЬ!!! САМАЯ МОЩНАЯ И ЖЕСТКАЯ ВОЕННАЯ МУЗЫКА!!!
Hearts of Iron II - War
Speech
Lenin Speech
Charles of Austria voice recording 1915
Kaiser Wilhelm II.'s speech about WWI
Guys remember to not take the army sizes as 100% historically accurate
Is this the thing you have been working on?
nah
@@Italian_Mapper ah
Do You know What the Song was during 'The Patriotic War' ?
Check description
Then… a young veteran called Adolfo Hernández who wanted to be a painter, started into mexican politics
WAIT A MINUTE
SALUDEN ADOLFO¡
I mean, Salvador Abrascal and the synarchists exist...
oh no 😳😳
wait hol up ☠️
Mexico was literally in a civil war. The north of the country has suffered greatly, and it ended in 1919. In conclusion, the Mexican army wouldn't have been able to attack the US if it wanted to.
W pfp
This video is just for jokes
What if Mexico was not in a civil war
🤓 Not supposed to be realistic
@@HimmyNeutron2714 you sure about that
Wtf México was so powerfull starting the war. Of course the new animation in 4:00 is good. Great video🫵!
Thanks
It's not that Mexico is very powerful, it's that the US army was very bad.
@@estradadavilafernandojavie8684 that’s not what the Mexicans thought in 1846-1848.
@@gloverfox9135 What have I written? my comment does not appear
Being realistic in those times the Mexican army was very divided, possibly we would not have lasted a week, of course being positive if they had united for the same objective of Recovery of territory and military aid from Germany possibly and we would have lasted longer
Nah I think this scenario was realistic, the us army at the time was weaker than Italy… ITALY!!!
@@orrorsaness5942but mexico was having a civil war from 1910 to 1917, so aid from the central powers was really the only chance they had at keeping America down.
@@orrorsaness5942the US army at the time was small since they didn’t have any major war, the national gourd would’ve hold the Mexican off before the army comes
And would have rapidly mobilized. Guerilla warfare was also likely. Size also does not equal strength.
@@orrorsaness5942They werent. USA was 5th or 3rd
i think the video fails to address some important things, mainly: mexico just got out of a civil war and was in no position to fight, the US would've pushed back the mexicans long before they did in the video, germany was doomed to lose to the british blockade, germany was in no position for an offensive in 1918, as their soldiers were mutineeing in mass, starving, and had just lost the 1918 spring offensive, ottoman forces couldn't push back the british even if they tried, the soviets wouldn't attack germany so soon after they had won their revolution since they didn't endustrialize in mass and would get steamrolled by the germans.
They were still in the civil war.
@@senatorarmstrong4168 though it was for the most part resolved by then.
yea good piont
@@m.a.n4134 mostly small fighting scattered across the nation
Bro the spring offensive happened in 1918 tho
Yeah realistically, Mexico would just die in 3 weeks at most, due to internal conflict (civil war as it’s aka)
Yeah, Mexico would have more chance if Porfirio Diaz (Mexican dictator and general) was still around
@@Franciko69 Yes
You know what I started wanting MORE ww2 video's I get why you like them that much
The thumbnail is wild 💀
The fact that It's a Brazilian indigenous character that started as a symbol of the Brazilian Chan (BRchan) make this even funnier
Anime GIRLYS 🍑
@@Itailan-Geography AYO 💀
@@Itailan-Geography TF BRO💀💀💀
@@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cdItalians discovered Kuruminha lmao
5:08 Great detail in the numbers.
Let’s go another Video 👍👍👍
4:08 bro putted ww2 again in a ww1 title video 😭😭
smirk
@@Italian_Mapperbruh
@@Italian_Mapper do next What if usa had collapse instead of the ussr history?
It was perfect, until 4:04.
why do you think that the video after that time wasn´t good?
@@jirikkulisek7906because the red army would of collapsed easily, the Russians didn’t have the industry against the central powers
If the soviets couldn't take Poland in otl, how would they be able to take an emboldened post-war Germany?
Seriously? Mexico would NEVER get that far into US territory. It was super weak financially and in the middle of a multi-sided civil war at the time. The Americans would have defeated the Mexicans almost right away.
Love ur vids❤
I liked that you add hoi4 effects 😁😁😁
Video idea: What if Romania and Italy both joined at the outbreak of war for a
Like for central powers Would make some sense as Italy was pet of the triple alliance and Romania had secret agreements with them
Probably the best alt. history map video I've seen in a while.
Where did you get the inspiration for adding Hoi4 sounds?
I dont know i just saw many videos using them
J’adore vos vidéo je pourrais les regarder toute la journée c’est vraiment bien fait !
Nice vid
Plz make a sequel to this it would be interesting if there were 3 alliances in the Cold War
how did you get the map
He made another WW2 video using poor Mexico, what a shame... But still an amazing work!
Also Central Powers were too soft whit Italy in this timeline after WW1
Blud didn't expect ww2 here
@@Italian_Mapper I didn't
The thumbnail of Mexico waifu.. I want it 😤😤😤
wth bro... did you click for ANYTHING else???
She’s actually Brazilian, her name is “Kuruminha”
She is not mexican 💀💀
Fantastic work, my friend! Really good job. ^_^ If I may ask a couple questions, what are the general Ideologies of each faction during and after ww2? Like, the West Allies are Democratic, and the Germans are Imperialist? Also, how come France was on Germany's side? Did they go through an Authoritarian coup or something? 😅
Well Germany still has the kaiser so they are an absolute monarchy i think, after ww1 Germany placed a German aligned government in France so thats why they are allies
@Italian_Mapper understandable. ^_^ Would you say Britain, Italy and Greece maintained Liberal Democratic governments as well?
Well they would have the government they had in real life so they are still monarchies but i'm not very informed to say which monarchy type
@Italian_Mapper that's perfectly fine, lol. :) Would you possibly be interested in a part two of sorts to explain their positions and ideologies? You don't have to if you don't want to
i cannut bru sorry dawg i only make maps
If you love your followers do a second part❤❤❤
qual e la canzone usata nella parte della guerra patriottica?
guarda in descrizione c'è tutto
This alternate history seems very interesting!
good video bro from mexico
Can we get a sequel to this? I'm curious as to what happens next.
hello is me again oh and im back with more tips --- you did make teh font smaller gj --- 4:05 the army sizes addition was a great idea --- but why not put sizes for all fronts liek teh Fourth Balkan War and Italian Revolution --- siege and encirclement idea was good --- can u add the names like in Axis Victory: The Man in the High Castle? they look good --- is it just me or was this video a bit blurry than last --- oh and add the cities all in all great video
Thanks for coming with new critics and stuff, the army sizes was an experiment I still have to learn how to make them good and stuff, the maps are blurry because by zooming them in they lose quality so i'm not gonna do that again, but in the man in the high castle video there are no names so i dont understand that
bro the names of coutries
Idk which names
Taco Land is no more.
NOOOOO😭😭😭😭
To be honest, I don't think Germany would have been able to push its trenches in France beyond the historical setting, even without the arrival of American troops. What would possibly happen is a war of exhaustion and both would come to an agreement of a negotiated peace, while the United States punched Mexico... In the end we would still have a German Empire in this timeline, practically a cold war in Europe between France/UK against Germany.
Weird fact: i actually comed looking at that anime girl💀💀💀💀💀
bro
@@brubdub. yes
SIMP
Dude.
Excuse me?
Ayo thumbnail
Never Ask His Discord Members for a Emoji
How to get this map?
Nice mapping
Yeah this super boosted mexico’s army
Whoa wait. even though this is a massive hypothetical video, in the Patriotic War, would the soviets be the Allies in this sanario, along with Britain? due to those countries marked in Red.
Reality... the US would now have about 65 states.
4:04 what music?
It's in the description
i like it but i feel like some countries surrender a bit too fast.. also when italy and greece lost against germany, then they immediately join the entente is honestly a bit weird, you should've made some uprising in greece and italy, also u should have made greece occupy southern bulgaria and northwestern turkey, also you should have gave constantinople to britain.. but overrall it was good
Petition for Italian Mapper to do WW1 Fuhrerreich 👇
Perhaps
@@Italian_Mapper wait really
As a mexican, realistically at that point in time what would have happened is the moment Carranza declared war, basically any other of the other like 10 caudillos would have asked the US for support and taken power, then the anti american caudillos would have moved their armies to reignite the civil war again and it would have all devolved into full blown civil war for like the 12th time that century That aside I like the video, it's not one of those "then mexico joined and the central powers ended up marching on washington somehow"
Honestly as far as my understanding of the situation Mexico would have a good time for a good 3-4 months before being pushed back and kicked the shit out of for barely over a year before being forced to capitulate and that possibly upwards of a year and a half while possible to give Germany a good edge, would not in my view have been enough in of itself to save Germany as I just dont see Germany makeing the big successful offensive showcased in this video, at least not in the year its made. That being said such is with the assumption America ever learned of the Telegram in such a timeline and if they did not they might not even intervene into Europe at all which would be a whole separate thing so a particularly prolonged war if Germany could hold itself and Austria together could go very differently then OTL
4:05 Music Name?
check in description
What app did you use this could help a lot with my channel
I used paint .net
@@Italian_Mapper oh thanks haha I don’t have a computer.😭
cool
6:10 song?
description
I like the idea but I personally think that the joinment of mexico would have made the us join faster as war was braought to them and not the other way around, theirfore amarican troops entering france months ahead our timline.
Nopal+machete= big armor
Amrica said:it's not your time Lil buddy
❤ can u do uk v ireland
4:04 what is this musics name??
check description
Music name? Oh I forgot
@@Italian_Mapper no
Can u plz tell me how u make these videos plz?
with paint .net
Thanks
Mexico couldn't of possibly pushed that far into the United States with the total disrepair their army was in in 1917, also they wouldn't of been able to hold onto the land that long either.
I’m even surprised that Mexico even made it that far. Even at the time Mexico was very weak in 1917
Bạn làm hay ww2 axis win khá thú vị
Why there is some shy anime girl in the thumbnail? 🫵🤨📷
Yes My Waifu
Her name is Kuruminha, a native Brazilian and I have no idea why she is there
But actually it would be very easy for Germany to fight the RFSR because of its military and technology
bro can you make an paraguayan win in the triple alliance war and a south america dominated by them?
I don't know about stuff about those conflicts I'm not informed enough and in my very humble opinion its not worth to research
@@Italian_Mapper Its just an idea
@@Italian_Mapper and Paraguayball already did It so k
@@Italian_Mapper and thank you for considering my idea
well ther is problem in 1922 soviet iunion hade lot of problems they coudnt attec garmany that period maybe 1934 or somthinlike that but not in 1922
You severely overestimate the speed of ww1 army, germany couldn't reach paris mexico cannot reach any major city or actually take it once US army is there, also logistics
honestly i think mexico would have never pushed that far, maybe it would have advanced slightly then stagnated
Los Angeles will not fall 💪
I dont think the soviets would be prepared
Part 2?
Its longer than the normal universe!
video about mexico but having a brazilian native in thumbnail
My son is learning so fast
little fun fact: mexico was fighting it's self a civil war so they were weak so if they did accept the zimmermann they would just be quick invaded by the US and the central powers would still lose
bruh mexico fighting usa wouldnt make france capitulate and even less after only loosing paris
The US would focus on Mexico first and not the Western front, allowing Germany to stall the Entente and harness resources in Ukraine. Even if Germany is unable to push deeper into France past 1918, the Entente would eventually sue for peace giving Germany a slightly favorable alternative.
A frustrated painter named Diego Rivera returned from the front with resentment, he would enter politics and the rest is history. 🚬🗿
is this a star reference??!?!!?
It cant be, or can it
I'd have appreciated abit more, realism Like the USSR just got out of a Civil War and is still rather unindustrialized why would it invade Germany now? Also this Brest-Litovsk borders are not that accurate Why would France join the Germans in the moment of their weakness? Definitely because they would still be very unstable Do I need to continue?
4:04 Lenin's counterattack
No way the USA just annexes the northern part of Baja California. They would've taken it all
So here’s what actually happened when the leader of Mexico was rudely awoken from his dream turned bad. Mexico got some territory with surprise, then Revolutionary exploded even more and the Mexican troops in the USA have supply issues do to the already existing revolutionaries in the north and then the USA starts mobilizing men and kicks Mexico out and by time USA troops cross into Mexico proper Mexico City has already been besieged if not taken by revolutionaries so the USA let’s the new government take over maybe taking some Northern Territory like Baja California and after that the Germans Keiser wakes up and sees the Mexico distraction was a complete failure, the army is close to Paris but taking it would take much longer then they have rights now because after Mexico capitulation the USA is coming already partially mobilized and that lead to Germany not being able to push and even being pushed back and after some time the kieser has to surrender or face a civil war themselves. In the end not much change except a Revolutionary Mexico and the USA is probably going to be less neutral in the peace talks meaning possible harsher treatment of the German empires and the ottomans and Bulgarians.
The USSR would propably start pushing Poland And Lithuania in short period of time after end of the war, and either The Battle of Warsaw happens same as in reality, or communists will win. Then they have free way to advance in Germany and allies too. In reality, bolshevics were stopped at warsaw and their expansion was stopped. But in this reality... Who knows!
i could do the endsieg seen in the end of this video
what happen lithuania german allies or neutral and hitler raises power or didnt become german leader
Lithuania became a neutral state and hitler doesnt rise to power
…why is Kuruminha in the thumbnail?
idk
Someday I, as a citizen of Russia will understand, why Western cartographers are CONFIDENT that the USSR can defeat German Empire. Yes, sure. After several years of civil war, political isolation, a destroyed economy and famine, the USSR would have defeated Germany, yes, yes, haha. This would have been an even faster defeat than Romania in 1916. Which, by the way, also turned out to be surprisingly strong.
Keep in mind Germany is having to fight with stretched supply lines and an unstable economy for a cause which is not linked directly to their fatherland
@@Italian_MapperThe cause is directly linked to the Fatherland tho? Like if they lose the east, the communist might aswell just march into Berlin. Not to mention the USSR got beat by Poland OTL, there is no way they win here
Call me down bad, but the thumbnail ain’t bad tho 😏
tf??? i mean, you got me there, i was gonna call you down bad...
@@brubdub. I’m talking about the quality of the thumbnail flags, the uploader did a good job finding a high resolution image unlike the shitty 1p flags I see sometimes.
@@Gunkshot111 i mean you have a point
@@Gunkshot111sureee.... sureee...
Como se llama ese juego 😮
Creó qué Hearts Of Iron 4
Удивляет, что всё это произошло из-за Мексики
Is anyone going to talk about the anime character in the thumbnail? No? Just me?
Yes. Just you.
Kuruminha is her name
they aren’t even getting past the border
💀
Insane Mexican waifu in the thumbnail is just downright based
Brazilian Indigenous Mexican Waifu is the best thing I have ever seen in months
@@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cd Mhmm.
Yes I love watching all anime girl
Her name is Kuruminha btw
< CLASSIFED > Name: Operation New France Goal: Secure Mexican Occupation untell the Rio Grande Unit Numbers: 306,000 US / 100,000-150,000 MX (estimate) Date: 9th October, 1918 thanks @italian_Mapper for the video!
huh so this is how the Kaiser won ww1
Bro, why the front cover of the video got a woman looking like hinata!? Lol
That’s Kuruminha, a old Brazilian mascot to our version of 4chan
Even when the mexican attacked the usa eventhough they still fighing in a civil war, Germany may still able to taked Paris and ended the war. The bolsheviks 100% not choosen to attack germany while them army is still really weak and ranning out of supply while the germans postwar army may weaker but still strong enough to push them back to moscow if the war started
where is part 3
There's not even part 2
@@Italian_Mapper not for this, for the old series
whos the girl in the thumbnail
It's Kumirinha, a young brazilian indigenous girl symbol of the BRchan, but she is no more just an character of BRchan and is an well known meme now
Amazing video, but i would of thought the ameriacns made a naval invasion off the gulf of Mexico
This scenario would only exist if A. Mexico didn't have a civil war and russia turned straight bolshevik in the first week, B. Mexico had a short civil war and russia had a short civil war, or C. mexico and bolsheviks literally got tripods
Wait, Didn't Britains have Tanks During WWI, How did the British tanks didn't stop the germans from causing france to fall?
they had the very first tanks ever so they were pretty useless since the first models were really heavy and slow and it wasn't much efficent
@@Italian_Mapper Yo I know this Kurunminha thumbnail