@@jaredpapa9941 I don’t know dude, I didn’t like the remake of the second and third songs
@pendrickshou26675 ай бұрын
@@jaredpapa9941 Maybe try putting everything in one comment?
@brandonandstuff2395 ай бұрын
So, for nami, you prefer it sounding like you put the sound through 5 toasters, 60 suns, and put soundproof walls in front of the speaker, rather than humming?
@Wild-Goober5 ай бұрын
@@Wild-GooberNami is doing great, I’m not saying that she’s doing bad. I'm only talking about new versions of previous songs
@pendrickshou26675 ай бұрын
@@Wild-Goober i like both but the old one just hit different
@cototo5 ай бұрын
Mostly notice from the new vocals that the robotic "buzz" from their voices are majorly improved. You can actually hear their voices instead of an aggressive autotune and it sounds like they're actually singing instead of buzzing out syllables that 'sound like words' which would be hard to decipher without lyrics. It's not perfect but it's a huge improvement. (PS: It's still pretty hard to understand McWave)
@QuackZack5 ай бұрын
Mc Wave is not a VOCALOID is a TTS.
@maidenrelish59065 ай бұрын
Mc wave hasn’t been changed I don’t think. They did say that things were finished and less finished in no particular order
@pemanilnoob5875 ай бұрын
in all honesty i think thats just what i think his voice is for his character
@Alicorn_Magic5 ай бұрын
Mcwave is pretty easy to understand for me lol
@Dorkish_Draws5 ай бұрын
To be fair, his voice IS pretty deep.
@calyx88085 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Actually Nami is the only one who isn't voiced by a Vocaloid-
@starfriez6225 ай бұрын
No wonder why her voice sounds so good.
@QuackZack5 ай бұрын
And McWave, hes a TTS
@guerranoturna58605 ай бұрын
I dont understand how to use vocaloid
@BernardoAnimator5 ай бұрын
@@guerranoturna5860What’s a tts?
@Elipxrv5 ай бұрын
Wasn't the Green Bean in Sidechain Fever voiced by a person as well?
@Jazellie5 ай бұрын
Honestly I really like the old version of stir and mix just because it has more of a lovey doves type of sound but now it’s a lot like them just singing for it. Another thing to point out is OMG THEY REALLY FOXED GREASE POPPING
@owenhedderick2965 ай бұрын
if anything the new one actually sounds like singing, the old one really doesnt
@pupeescobar6984 ай бұрын
I prefer the old one too
@kearazworld4 ай бұрын
@@pupeescobar698that's the problem
@user-xy5yg6se1k4 ай бұрын
as someone who has no nostalgia for the old versions because i only discovered this thing existed a few weeks ago i gotta disagree the new version definitively sounds better and has more emotion to it than the old one
@FantasmaNaranja4 ай бұрын
@FantasmaNaranja as someone who knew about this in its first version, I agree. Except for Melodii during Grease Poppin'. The old one goes with McWave's vocals well, sometimes. Best example is "flippin' and frying to keep myself from dying". But the old one can make melodii hard to understand half the time. The new one is the opposite of the problem where she's kinda more expressive (in a song that's just kinda lowkey) despite being able to understand her a lot better
@enigmatic31943 ай бұрын
I didn't realize Nami's VA actually had their track re-recorded! Pretty sick
@the_doug_digital5 ай бұрын
Yeah, even the animation is reanimated
@infinite.wings.guy.5 ай бұрын
I always think that the via probably said in a soft tone "hhhhh Nami wav v2 baby"
@Starvaze5 ай бұрын
there was no reason for that change
@user-es5zl8st1m4 ай бұрын
LJ actually said it wasn't; just a few adjustments to the tuning was what made it sounds as though t'was rerecorded
@Idiotic_B_Purcell2 ай бұрын
I like how Melodii sounds very consistent now. At times it sounded really good in the old version and at other times it sounded like they were having a stroke. As for stir and mix I like both the Old and the new version.
@R_K_S24015 ай бұрын
Also it really improved her dictation for me, idk her old version made it hard to understand what she’s supposed to sing without the subtitles in certain parts
@andrewty96925 ай бұрын
They*
@FrozenFruit9764 ай бұрын
@@FrozenFruit976 thanks for reminding me
@R_K_S24014 ай бұрын
i thought they went by any@@FrozenFruit976
@TheMoonlight17114 ай бұрын
Og stir and mix is better 😅
@TheboijaxАй бұрын
Oh the new versions do a way better job of sounding natural and having more inflections in the voice. Very much like it!
@faeb.85975 ай бұрын
It's impressive, yeah, I vastly prefer it. Especially in the first song, where the hiphop vocals are supposed to be in a "flow" intonation rather than a strictly autotuned musical one.
@joe____5 ай бұрын
not really for Stir n Mix. It's overall less expressive and more obvious that it's a vocaloid.
@rydoggo4 ай бұрын
@@rydoggoMaybe its bc you guys are more used to hearing vocaloids, but as an outsider, I genuinely thought the new stir and mix was a person but I can tell that the old one was a vocaloid immeadiately.
@wophful3 ай бұрын
@@rydoggoidk I found it was the complete opposite for me
@Chu2chompsankles3 ай бұрын
Most of the new ones are an improvement but I prefer the original for Stir And Max. But I could be biased because the original is what introduced me to the game
@monochaos94425 ай бұрын
the song is called stir and mix 😁
@JLis_cool5 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@nullhydrangea4 ай бұрын
@@JLis_coolprobably just a typo
@asheriiox26 күн бұрын
@@asheriiox yea
@JLis_cool25 күн бұрын
I will say that grease poppin is alot better because Melodii's vocaloid sounded ALOT different from their original. But in the new update their vocaloid sounds alot more like the normal one found in other songs, so I like it!
@LiteOSC5 ай бұрын
Old “Burgers, an Art. The Grill? Our canvas” was my favorite line from Melodii. Hits on a spiritual level 🔥
@nicerobin46875 ай бұрын
@@nicerobin4687same
@The_Alex_YT5 ай бұрын
It's more lively
@r4ndome5 ай бұрын
the oroginal melodii in that one sounds like that one creepy text to speech voice that treatsforbeasts uses
@werthenimratfanclub5 ай бұрын
honestly i prefer the originals of stir and mix and grease poppin, (musically, i get wanting to give melodii a consistent voice) but the others are improved imo
@funeralruiner5 ай бұрын
I actually like the new songs because it's more refreshed and new and more clear
@DanielsDAdumb5 ай бұрын
Yeah, melody's voice was muffy and loud
@lucaslol115 ай бұрын
Yeah but that one got that sweet magic
@DanielsDAdumb5 ай бұрын
The fact that this is an unpopular opinion makes me sad
@pemanilnoob5875 ай бұрын
@@pemanilnoob587 no worries
@DanielsDAdumb5 ай бұрын
Yea, now you can understand melodii much better
@annellecoraline5 ай бұрын
I honestly could go either for Jamtine’s voice because Stir and Mix is my favorite song from the original 4 But I do like her old voice a smidge more on the “Mix, mix, mix, uh huh” part
@tonythunder60485 ай бұрын
I agree on that part But overall it’s really dope
@arhyllinchroma90625 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree, I love it
@tonythunder60485 ай бұрын
Same, i like her old voice a bit more cause of how good it portray Jamtine's slightly unhinged personality towards her crush.
@purplemageddom4 ай бұрын
Yeah especially during that little scream, made her a bit more unhinged in the original. The best way I can describe it, it’s almost like a Yandere that won’t kill but will do everything else to get who she wants
@tonythunder60484 ай бұрын
I personally like the old version better since it portrays her kinda kooky personality better but both are great the new one is just kinda calmer
@Internetcockroach14 ай бұрын
I think people's preference for the old versions is jusg nostalgia/being used to it. The new version are objectively much better: understandable lyrics, better volume levels, much more skilled tuning. I think Stir and Mix and Nami are somewhat understandable they weren't that bad before, but even then i still think the new versions are improvements and show a better understanding on how to use vocal synths.
@Koopacake5 ай бұрын
is objectively good, but it is useless if you don't take into consideration the original version created by the author, which was created on purpose as in the Mc Wave song, which despite being more consistent, the voice of the beginning matched perfectly with Mc Wave's voice due to being the same software.
@maidenrelish59065 ай бұрын
you should google what objective means
@Sandmann6294 ай бұрын
do you know what the word objective means
@dontstealmycontentplease4 ай бұрын
@@dontstealmycontentplease an objective improvement, then, technically speaking.
@Koopacake4 ай бұрын
Idk, as someone who only recently got into vocaloids (within the last year or two) I still prefer the old version. There's an objective technical improvement in the new version, but I feel like the focus was on making the vocaloids sound as good as possible, not making the songs themselves sound as good as possible. Either way, the effort they had to put in to improve the sound quality had to have been pretty insane
@turnham43274 ай бұрын
For those who are curious the VOCALOID voice banks (which version of software they were originally released) used for each character are: Cinnabay: Amy (Vocaloid 5) Biggie Cheesecake: Cyber Songman (Vocaloid 4) Jamtime: Cyber Diva (Vocaloid 4) Rensa(Not in the video because she's from a new song): Gumi English (Vocaloid 3)¹ Melodii: Apparently Chris (Vocaloid 5), but I didn't hear a resemblance They all most likely were all used in Vocaloid 5's engine, since all of them are compatible with it. PS: They're compatible with V6 too, but it wasn't released on the first demo and for now we can't be sure if they've switched to it, since none of them sound like Vocaloid AI (from the list, Gumi is the only one who has it) and there are no new V6 voice banks used too Now to non-vocaloid characters: Nami: Human voice actress - Meggie Elise Synthz McWave: Speech Synthesis from FL Studio, which if I'm not mistaken it's older than Vocaloid itself so the quality can't really be improved by much like all the others that you can tune it to sound more natural Mc Bean Machine(green puyo): Human voice actor - Jordo Prince ¹ Gumi English has only been released for Vocaloid 3, Vocaloid 6(AI voice bank). She'll be released for Synth V that has multi language capabilities as an AI voice bank tomorrow(December 20th)
@patrickbernardidefreitas4025 ай бұрын
I KNEW RENSA SOUNDED SO FAMILIAR, SO THAT'S WHYYY That makes me love her character even more 😭❤
@DistortedMelodies_5 ай бұрын
I don’t usually listen to the English Vocaloids, but I knew Rensa sounds familiar for some reason (Except for Cyber Diva, but not enough where it’s recognizable)
@Zack_Zander5 ай бұрын
The reason why Chris is hard to hear is because the gender factor in Vocaloid is turned down very low for the voice, to better suit Melodii. A lower gender factor in Vocaloid makes a voice more high/feminine sounding, while a higher gender factor makes a voice more deep/masculine sounding.
@denkirobo5 ай бұрын
@@denkirobo makes sense I forgot about the gender function completely
@patrickbernardidefreitas4025 ай бұрын
even with the gender factor I still can kinda make out Chris lol
@ikarolll4 ай бұрын
Seeing these all honestly sounds vastly improved across the board.
@NekoValtz5 ай бұрын
1:35 The way Nami said in "I just wanna be" in the old one was so good In the new one, it like someone just reduced her volume to a whisper ;-;
@K_V-5 ай бұрын
you mean the opposite because the “old” one was new
@crow2315 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@trashmammal18575 ай бұрын
Fr I remember when that part gave me goosebumps. New one doesn’t have the same emotion.
@dr.tacophd12395 ай бұрын
The fact that Jamtine used to say “iT” during her song at the beginning was what I liked
@olivervashisht20605 ай бұрын
Honestly for me it sounds like she’s saying “eigh” which really sounds weird to me
@owenhedderick2965 ай бұрын
i think she said hey
@blanche__4 ай бұрын
it was most likely an error with the creator putting "i" on the note instead of something like "ai", so it simply got fixed
@sopix77614 ай бұрын
@@sopix7761 [I t] is standard and automatically entered [I h] is a manual change and is to sound a little more casual like a real singer doing doing less harsh pronunciations
@tsohkurai4 ай бұрын
My takes: Cream cheese icing's new version is much better across the board Melodii's old voice suited nami.wav better, with the shorter sustain and slight bitcrushing giving her a more lofi vibe. Jamtine's voice could go either way, it was just already very fitting to begin with. I think a like the new version just a lil better Melodii has a bit more energy and stronger delivery in the new versions of stir & mix and grease poppin i know that contradicts what i just said about nami.wav, but w/e its about what sounds good and that's both subjective and not strictly logical
@laceflower_5 ай бұрын
I like jamtine’s new voice cause she actually holds the notes now instead of it just stopping in the old version
@mrmissingno105 ай бұрын
Icing's new song is much better for sure. Some lines are still a little hard to hear properly, but it's much better than the OG. I definitely prefer the old Nami.wav by far, for both melodii and nami. The songing isn't bad, and it's definitely more clear, but imo that doesn't match the vaporwave vibe nearly as well. Melodii kinda sounded like she was singing with a mouthfull of water... which fits, honestly. Jamtime is a mixed bag. Some lines were better in the OG, some in the new version. Could go either way, although I think Melodii's singing is a lot better. I'm also not sold on grease poppin'. I mean, Melodii's singing is much clearer, but now the contrast between their voices is great enough that it just feels a little off for me. It's not bad, just different, I suppose. The new songs are great though. Since they're built from the ground up with new voices, they absolutely nail them perfectly.
@VynalDerp5 ай бұрын
Idk I didn’t really like Jamtine’s voice in the new one… Which is unfortunate because that was my favorite song previously.
@Gatorboy56785 ай бұрын
I really like Jamtines new voice as it fits better for the song and character, but I prefer the old version. There’s just something about the old one I like more
@Novi.Starrr5 ай бұрын
sameee, i think its her voice, the new voice kinda lost its cute charm(?)
@africkinintrovert40415 ай бұрын
nostalgia maybe?
@j.a.g8165 ай бұрын
It sounds genuine
@JecjecKoolitKidsChannelАй бұрын
I think the old one was almost incomprehensible what they were saying but the rythm was better, the new one has more audio quality but its more ´´bland´´ (especially the first song, the others not so much)
@manusa93045 ай бұрын
nah, i really like more the new version of cream cheese icing, the first was just gibberish half of the song, the new has more syle
@dacerber5 ай бұрын
I don’t really se how their bland at all
@sammysquid37025 ай бұрын
i feel like their voices are like too calm, while in the other one while they where more robotic and harder to understand, they had a spark to them@@sammysquid3702
@manusa93044 ай бұрын
They focused more on making the sound clearer than making a decent melody tbh. The original songs sounded better in everything but quality
@hoxiipoxii564 ай бұрын
@@hoxiipoxii56 again I disagree, I think I sounds way better on every level
@sammysquid37024 ай бұрын
fun fact: Nami has an actual voice actress
@7nulBM5 ай бұрын
I hope to see the game complete with actual VA's to match the levels of Parappa
@madden80215 ай бұрын
@@madden8021 I think a mix of both would be much more ideal. Scratchin' Melodii using vocaloid feels so unique since the only games I've saw that use vocaloid were mostly SEGA games using the Piapro vocaloids.
@HotBaraDad6665 ай бұрын
Ideally, you could switch between the two at any time
@flapjack09255 ай бұрын
@@madden8021the game would loose a lot of its charm if it did imo
@sammysquid37025 ай бұрын
If you've been a long time vocaloid fan, one of the things you notice about the genre is that what's considered aesthetically "good" has shifted over time to be more naturalistic and human. Older songs tend to be more robotic, buzzy, and unnaturally high-pitched, while modern vocaloid songs tend to downplay those elements. There's obvious exceptions, but I'd say that's the general trend I've felt in vocaloid music, including in the stuff I enjoy listening to. One big factor there is that the more humanistic tuning is in fact more skillful and difficult to achieve. We have more of that skill now, almost two decades out from when Miku was first released, than we did in the early 2010s. Another big factor is that the newer versions of all different varieties of voice banks make that kind of sound easier to achieve - the samples are better and the software is better at stitching them together now. But difficult execution does not fundamentally make a more aesthetically pleasing work. I know of noise albums that are super technically difficult, but which are way less fun to listen to than your basic 4-chord pop song. I think it's undeniable that the newer vocals in Scratchin' Melodii are more technically skilled - it takes skill to remove the buzzing, and the new ones are for sure more emotional. And if that's your aesthetic preference, then sure, but there are definitely people who prefer the robotic, inhuman qualities, for reasons that go beyond just nostalgia. Losing those qualities changes the *feel* of the songs, changes the aesthetic base, and I understand why people prefer that. Personally, listening to this, I think the additional clarity & emotions in the lyrics are a welcome addition, but the new vocals consistently do this thing where they hold on the notes for half a beat longer than the old vocals did, which makes the whole thing feel less... sharp. See Melodii's vocals in the comparisons at 3:58 and 4:16 - the "stoppin'" and "poppin'" are held longer and slower, to the point where they feel like Melodii's is slurring their words. "Coastin'" and "roastin'" do not have that quality, though, and they're equally as sharp making that line one of the most straightforward upgrades in the whole video. I also think there's just a little too much emphasis on improving the emotiveness of the vocals, and it could be toned down like 10% to a happy medium that doesn't distract from the fact that they're singing. There's a bunch of moments where it feels like Melodii's response is almost inquisitive, instead of declarative - in a call & response song, you want the call to be inquisitive and the response to be declarative. Question & answer sort of vibe. This is the worst in Stir & Mix - arguably, that's the most expressive of all 4 of the OG songs, and dialing it up to 11 here hurts the song as a whole. That said all of this discussion hides the real travesty - the new backing track for Cream Cheese Icing is *so much worse* .·´¯`(>▂
@Tesl8n4 ай бұрын
A great take. Personally, I much prefer the clarity and expressive nature of the newer vocaloid systems, however I completely see what you mean about note length.
@archiemourad4 ай бұрын
It's rare to see a logical and objective take on this platform, rather than "New version so suck". Thank you.
@archiemourad4 ай бұрын
I love the new vocals sm..they were impossible to listen to before now i can sorta understand what theyre saying without captions
@k1baede7285 ай бұрын
In my opinion, in stir and mix, Jamtine had a better voice in the old version, but in the new one it is too smooth. In my opinion, I would give the old voice to Jamtine and leave the new voice of our heroine.
@levelone88325 ай бұрын
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@gserulle32318 күн бұрын
In my opinion, all of them were an improvement except for Jamtime. It sounds way too robotic and unnatural. Now that just may be me too used to yet old one, or that the entire point is to make them sorta robotic cuz their vocaloids, but still. Just feels off, but beside that I have no complaints!
@TheHeartlessSpirit_.5 ай бұрын
That’s wild, because Jamtine sounds DRASTICALLY more natural in the new version to me 😮
@Lovingmadjom5 ай бұрын
@@Lovingmadjomit feels like the change was made to make it more natural, but the change had the reverse result
@Sam-tl4ho5 ай бұрын
@@Sam-tl4ho NAh, for me I legitimately think it sounds significantly more natural now than it did. It was one of the changes I thought was most impressive.
@Lovingmadjom5 ай бұрын
It’s because the new voice is more exxagerated
@deadsunset891622 күн бұрын
I'm not sure how I feel about the new vocals. I like that the new vocals have more clarity than the older counter parts but, in some ways the old voice added more character to the songs by being a tad more robotic. It really depends on which song is being played and what section of the song it's on for what's better. I don't really know how I would blend the two versions though to get it to hit the way I'd want it to. I will say though that I kinda hate the way they completely changed cream cheese icing though. It doesn't have the same flow as the old version. Maybe that's just a me thing though.
@ZCtheNerd5 ай бұрын
Those are not "old voices" , those are the same voicebanks just with better tuning
@narutodivergent4 ай бұрын
0:05 hey Dj you gotta admit I’m gangnam style and always hit -Melodii 2022
@Pizza_2824 ай бұрын
The older ones are more charming and stylized. The new ones do sound (more) like real people singing, but there's something that just flosses the crevasses in my brain with the old vocals.
@toasterwafflАй бұрын
Oh geez. Grease Poppin was rough back then.
@UVart165 ай бұрын
I think the only song I prefer the original version of is Grease Poppin’- something about Melodii’s vocal filter just feels nicer with the song
@Gl1tch._.Ghostii5 ай бұрын
It has that old video game compressed voice sound and the filter just fit the vibe way more for me I get the new tuning, but I miss the old version. Too bad the creator removed all the old version of the songs from their channel.
@GamerDancer5 ай бұрын
I agree
@jamiethecringequeen5 ай бұрын
@@GamerDancer yeah :(
@jamiethecringequeen5 ай бұрын
@@GamerDancer They aré in the channel, in the playlist section
@fens7581Ай бұрын
Stir and Mix will never be the same again…
@turtleduckeatmushroom5 ай бұрын
REST IN PEACE OLD STIR AND MIX
@dibdablovescopyx5 ай бұрын
i barely noticed a change in it LMAO
@mushroomchoir4 ай бұрын
@@mushroomchoirare you deaf??
@WindiestRat34 ай бұрын
@@WindiestRat3 does auditory processing disorder count?
@mushroomchoir4 ай бұрын
@@mushroomchoir maybe 🤔
@WindiestRat34 ай бұрын
It seems that they changed Melodii's voice in several songs to make it more consistent
@SantiagoRiv285 ай бұрын
1:14 melody sounds like a kazoo in the old one
@the.axolotlgirl5 ай бұрын
Honestly, I like the old ones except for when their voice is just become physically impossible to figure out what noises they’re making
@maxwellhavoc69965 ай бұрын
The originals definitely has its charms, and I wouldn't be opposed to having new songs start off as those and later refreshed to have both as a togglable option. "scrunkly ver." and "rescratched ver." maybe? Edit: I just love the idea that Melodii could be depicted as a younger vocaloid that is trying her best to keep up, its absolutely adorable in my head canon. qwq
@Iwatoda_Dorm5 ай бұрын
I prefer the old stir and mix melodii and jamtine just sound better in that song when they sound less robotic
@meltingrocket89yt5 ай бұрын
I love how the update makes the words easier to understand and the characters voices and colors more full of life (Ps I will argue to my grave that the jamitines song just hits different)
@FEAR_ME_BISHES5 ай бұрын
Both are great
@DogBat4 ай бұрын
We love neutral opinions
@RaiBlu103 ай бұрын
THEY BOTH GREAT SORRY IM BI I CANT MAKE CHOICES @@RaiBlu10
@DogBat3 ай бұрын
@@DogBat epic! :D
@RaiBlu103 ай бұрын
I will miss the old mixes and vocaloid because I've listened to them for so long, but Melodii sounds like themself in McGroove's song, and their lyrics are definitely alot clearer.
@OmniVirusHS5 ай бұрын
thank you so much for doing them in each scene because unlike other vid comparisons, they would just play them together so the only difference i can see is their animation and not their voices cause they’re mixed together i also felt dizzy looking back and forth to see the difference so i appreciate that you did them individually ^^❤
@Chips_cooked5 ай бұрын
I’m actually pretty happy with the changes to jamtines song. I was nervous bc it’s one of my favorite songs but they actually some how made her sound even more love struck
@gegnabean4 ай бұрын
In my opinion, the quality of the art have more contrast colour and clearer lines compared to the old one, but the old voice still iconic though the voice pretty decent, the new one have more refreshing voice
@Primary.Pallete5 ай бұрын
I think the new vocals are great! I do kinda agree on Jamtime’s song sounding a little better in the older version (though Melodii themself sounds great in all the changed vocals). For me it’s mostly the “I want him to be mine,” section that got a downgrade with the new vocals. Cinnabay and Biggie however had a *major* improvement to their song. I could understand someone liking the older version for nostalgia’s sake, but it feels so rough compared to the most recent version.
@fallenaither5 ай бұрын
The Old Ver For Stir And Mix Actually Has A Much More Lovey-dovey Vibes Than The Newer One
@bananabun20375 ай бұрын
Great to see how it evolved!
@Dan1loBC5 ай бұрын
but fr old jamtines voice fit so well now it just feels like pinkie pie
@cameraman____5 ай бұрын
The old voice sounds too robotic, listen to the “i wanna” part again
@ajtcj13565 ай бұрын
I actually like both of them. The 2022 robotic voice sounds good, but the 2023 voice sounds like someone’s actually singing it. I like the 2023 version more(not by a lot, it’s extremely close), but the 2022 sounds pretty good.
@Ericaglan5 ай бұрын
I really agree because she sound weird when she says “making cookies for my love I stir and mix” and now it sounds like “making cooies for mayh love ai ster and mix”
@owenhedderick2965 ай бұрын
I really like how it's not just an Audio updated, they've really updated the graphics too! It's subtle but noticeable ^^ plus the Game play looks so much better too! Hope they keep up with this game
@Sir_Leximillion5 ай бұрын
I’m so excited for this game to come back because I loved it last year!
@StubbyWubbyz5 ай бұрын
At 0:40, i personally perfer the older style since it looks like her face is retracting a LOT in the new one
@GlamNinja5 ай бұрын
I like the remade of the first and the McWave song, but Nami and the cookie songs were a bit more stylized in their older version, the main char's voice added a funny tone to the musics. The new colors and better details make it all pop more in your face. Overall, 7/10
@policavosn34695 ай бұрын
The fact people prefer the old CCI is absolutely crazy to me
@milogryspeerd30095 ай бұрын
x2, the original was literally gibberish
@dacerber5 ай бұрын
@@dacerber that’s what I liked about tbh. but to each their own :)
@jamiethecringequeen5 ай бұрын
V1’s beat is better(to me)but the vocals are bad V2’s vocals on V1’s beat would be peak
@inkrements5 ай бұрын
you mean a slower cci?@@inkrements
@dacerber5 ай бұрын
I can really hear melodiis improvements! I really like her new voice!
@aloneybaloney10534 ай бұрын
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@th3_r4t_k1ng4 ай бұрын
I don't why I like old Jamtine version
@mangermatilla15385 ай бұрын
I do have to say that I miss the older version of Stir And Mix but the new version does sound a lot more clear which is good, and for Grease Poppin melody sounds a LOT better than before, they actually sound like themselves now lol, I love this game
@Lillian01014 ай бұрын
The improvement to Melodii specifically is amazing!
@iamaunicorn12324 ай бұрын
I kinda miss some small details in the old ver. like the cute art in the pop up windows 0:33 and being able to see the side of Nami's eyes at 0:42
@PunnyFuzz5 ай бұрын
ive never heard of this game but it reminds of parappa , definitely gonna look into it more as i loved the parappa games
@keisui894 ай бұрын
I really like the old voices. The robotic vocoloid sounds adds to it
@AirventOS4 ай бұрын
I like the new version much more, I feel the animation is more fluid, and the voices are better understood than before
@Yisus_Susiy5 ай бұрын
I have mixed feelings with the newer versions, I preferred the art style and for some songs the old voice sounds alot better. But some of the songs needed different vocals.
@CozyToast074 ай бұрын
The old voice for jamtine seemed the most off for me, it felt more..boring? or it just lacked the sound of excitement and uniqueness of Melodii's and Jamtine's voice. For the old ones Melodii seemed to match her opponent/partner's tone. For example is; Synthz McWave's song, She matched his somewhat monotone/more robotic voice and it had a charm to it! Now it felt off? Idk how to describe it. But the OLD Sweetz Siblings really needed a change. The old one was very inaudible (to me)
@hoo91774 ай бұрын
HOLYY THE TUNING ON THE VOCALOIDS IMPROVED SO MUCH
@icant80954 ай бұрын
that is ever best comparison edit: OMG I JUST NOTICED THAT ITS WAS THE VOCALOID ONES
@catnap_lover7535 ай бұрын
I really liked the original version of cream cheese icing Edit:roses are red violets are blue I liked my own comment because nobody wanted to
@Angeldustismyfave5 ай бұрын
You are a monster
@dieg0elbobo5 ай бұрын
How? My opinion I like new the lyrics of he old one was 😜😜got that ee OO 😜😜 got that ee oo got thaf sweet sweet magic
@TealPlatypus5 ай бұрын
@@TealPlatypus well tbh I agree with you but it’s the “DJ I gotta admit this kids got style and bars to spit”but overall I prefer the new version of everything els
@Angeldustismyfave5 ай бұрын
1:15 Melodii sounds like she’s nasally congested
@Chartoons.5 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work, those are big improvements.😁
@thegooddogou59315 ай бұрын
Holy moly these songs improved so much!
@xd_tyl3rgxrdn3r814 ай бұрын
At first it sounded weird but after listening again i think it's an improvement. They still have the fun Voca sound, but they put way more emotion into it. It makes the weirdness into a style choice instead of a quirk of the tools.
@ShieldStop4 ай бұрын
i honestly think i like the old versions of stir & mix and grease poppin, but cream cheese icing is def a major improvement
@Leo-oo2cv5 ай бұрын
Excited for the next one where it starts to really sound good
@e2b26525 күн бұрын
I love how they did not only improved cheese icing but also the song itself
@jambon273020 күн бұрын
1:44 look at the new version of ghis song, the melodii idle at the start changed, lol (mouth only idk)
@untorop5 ай бұрын
Her hair moves now-
@P3dro_msm5 ай бұрын
@@P3dro_msm i also noticed that lmao
@untorop5 ай бұрын
I like how they're more clear and easier to understand
@pensuls75954 ай бұрын
There was a definite charm to the original nasally fuzz but the new vocaloids are definitely clearer
@reginlief1Ай бұрын
This update feels like a half and half creamer. One half is filled with amazing songs, The other is bad changes to already amazing songs.
@buebushy5 ай бұрын
im mixed about it because a few cases are better but there are a few cases where its worse
@cubeman97665 ай бұрын
Luv your vids!
@Peppapogiscringe5 ай бұрын
Thx
@Dingo_DNC5 ай бұрын
I love the stir and mix either way
@WafreAlt3 ай бұрын
I like the new ones better underrated opinion
@superaxolotl47824 ай бұрын
Same
@flytrapJester3 ай бұрын
its new tune or new vocaloids?, btw as for me it was better before?, but, anyways very cool, ly :3
@lowkelui13215 ай бұрын
and fix the new line at the top(
@lowkelui13215 ай бұрын
bro the old voices sucked they all sounded dehydrated
@rowen175 ай бұрын
New tuning and small settings changes! Iirc no voicebank changes
@ondiiina5 ай бұрын
honestly i love the new version a lot more, it's a lot more noticeable with melodii, cinnabay & biggie cheesecake. i didn't really like their og tuning because it sounded robotic, but it's SO much better now. i think the revamp was a very good change
@stillnooneahhahah4 ай бұрын
i really love the new the voices I just need time to used to sir and mix and also Melodiis new voice! but its really good overall!!!
@Totally_not_MissMillz4 ай бұрын
I love the new voices, but I do prefer Jamtine’s old one
@kyleerivera30875 ай бұрын
I love the cleaner vocals especially the first song the comparison is just night and day
@Jerotero5 ай бұрын
the diference between V2 and V4X is crazy
@jadebayoba7073Ай бұрын
alot clearer but i like the energetic feel of the old one more
@soopiii43034 ай бұрын
I’m always worried why melodii’s hair goes up when she screams in the cinnabay vs biggie cheesecake song.
@FL00DS_F0R_CRYST4LS5 ай бұрын
What vocaloids do they use in the old one?
@someniceguy5245 ай бұрын
The same ones, they just have a different tuning!
@Fak_isdead5 ай бұрын
Still bops for sure
@shadowmist90934 ай бұрын
2:28 that face tho 💀💀💀
@SouOMega2929 күн бұрын
Jamtine voice is better in the remake, sounds really good to me. Idk why people don't like melodii new voice, is like a synthV a bit. I hope my UTAU sound fluid like that...
@jusak-kun47065 ай бұрын
Like FOR REAL bro i seriously cant get why people prefer the old Jamtine voice, like sure at first it sounds off but listening to it 3 or 4 times its enough to realize that it has superior sound quality and its way more melodic
@anton_555 ай бұрын
Old jamtine
@Mewmero5 ай бұрын
I like both
@wolfiadarkangel4 ай бұрын
i like the old versions better for some songs/characters but the new versions are an overall improvement!
@datdeerdude51392 ай бұрын
i think old grease popping is better but the rest are massive improvements
@bigg_theo5 ай бұрын
It’s just way better
@Skotone5145 ай бұрын
It sounds cool
@fabiolavillalpando9418Ай бұрын
Both sound good.
@HVY5265 ай бұрын
Im so confused why everyone hating on the new voices. It's legitimatelt has been improved in every way. Though Ill say the old jamtime voice has more "kick" to it while the new one feels more smooth edged a lot. It's still really good though. Also the "I just wanna be!" In nami's song feels so weak now. But still the hate towards the new voices is so whack omg
@dan-gy4vu5 ай бұрын
i like jamtine old voice because new jamtine voice like ai
@alaricgading5 ай бұрын
old sounds like ai
@crow2315 ай бұрын
@@crow231 are the same voice just with a new voice adjustments
@maidenrelish59065 ай бұрын
@@maidenrelish5906 yeah its the same
@yumasynthv5 ай бұрын
jamtine sounds so devoid of emotion and passion now
@xorensi25 күн бұрын
The reason why the new version of stir and mix sounds higher pitch because the sound is more sharper and refined making the illusion its higher pitched and some lines in the old version is higher than the new one if you look another comparison
New version so suck
@@jaredpapa9941 I don’t know dude, I didn’t like the remake of the second and third songs
@@jaredpapa9941 Maybe try putting everything in one comment?
So, for nami, you prefer it sounding like you put the sound through 5 toasters, 60 suns, and put soundproof walls in front of the speaker, rather than humming?
@@Wild-GooberNami is doing great, I’m not saying that she’s doing bad. I'm only talking about new versions of previous songs
@@Wild-Goober i like both but the old one just hit different
Mostly notice from the new vocals that the robotic "buzz" from their voices are majorly improved. You can actually hear their voices instead of an aggressive autotune and it sounds like they're actually singing instead of buzzing out syllables that 'sound like words' which would be hard to decipher without lyrics. It's not perfect but it's a huge improvement. (PS: It's still pretty hard to understand McWave)
Mc Wave is not a VOCALOID is a TTS.
Mc wave hasn’t been changed I don’t think. They did say that things were finished and less finished in no particular order
in all honesty i think thats just what i think his voice is for his character
Mcwave is pretty easy to understand for me lol
To be fair, his voice IS pretty deep.
Fun fact: Actually Nami is the only one who isn't voiced by a Vocaloid-
No wonder why her voice sounds so good.
And McWave, hes a TTS
I dont understand how to use vocaloid
@@guerranoturna5860What’s a tts?
Wasn't the Green Bean in Sidechain Fever voiced by a person as well?
Honestly I really like the old version of stir and mix just because it has more of a lovey doves type of sound but now it’s a lot like them just singing for it. Another thing to point out is OMG THEY REALLY FOXED GREASE POPPING
if anything the new one actually sounds like singing, the old one really doesnt
I prefer the old one too
@@pupeescobar698that's the problem
as someone who has no nostalgia for the old versions because i only discovered this thing existed a few weeks ago i gotta disagree the new version definitively sounds better and has more emotion to it than the old one
@FantasmaNaranja as someone who knew about this in its first version, I agree. Except for Melodii during Grease Poppin'. The old one goes with McWave's vocals well, sometimes. Best example is "flippin' and frying to keep myself from dying". But the old one can make melodii hard to understand half the time. The new one is the opposite of the problem where she's kinda more expressive (in a song that's just kinda lowkey) despite being able to understand her a lot better
I didn't realize Nami's VA actually had their track re-recorded! Pretty sick
Yeah, even the animation is reanimated
I always think that the via probably said in a soft tone "hhhhh Nami wav v2 baby"
there was no reason for that change
LJ actually said it wasn't; just a few adjustments to the tuning was what made it sounds as though t'was rerecorded
I like how Melodii sounds very consistent now. At times it sounded really good in the old version and at other times it sounded like they were having a stroke. As for stir and mix I like both the Old and the new version.
Also it really improved her dictation for me, idk her old version made it hard to understand what she’s supposed to sing without the subtitles in certain parts
They*
@@FrozenFruit976 thanks for reminding me
i thought they went by any@@FrozenFruit976
Og stir and mix is better 😅
Oh the new versions do a way better job of sounding natural and having more inflections in the voice. Very much like it!
It's impressive, yeah, I vastly prefer it. Especially in the first song, where the hiphop vocals are supposed to be in a "flow" intonation rather than a strictly autotuned musical one.
not really for Stir n Mix. It's overall less expressive and more obvious that it's a vocaloid.
@@rydoggoMaybe its bc you guys are more used to hearing vocaloids, but as an outsider, I genuinely thought the new stir and mix was a person but I can tell that the old one was a vocaloid immeadiately.
@@rydoggoidk I found it was the complete opposite for me
Most of the new ones are an improvement but I prefer the original for Stir And Max. But I could be biased because the original is what introduced me to the game
the song is called stir and mix 😁
My thoughts exactly
@@JLis_coolprobably just a typo
@@asheriiox yea
I will say that grease poppin is alot better because Melodii's vocaloid sounded ALOT different from their original. But in the new update their vocaloid sounds alot more like the normal one found in other songs, so I like it!
Old “Burgers, an Art. The Grill? Our canvas” was my favorite line from Melodii. Hits on a spiritual level 🔥
@@nicerobin4687same
It's more lively
the oroginal melodii in that one sounds like that one creepy text to speech voice that treatsforbeasts uses
honestly i prefer the originals of stir and mix and grease poppin, (musically, i get wanting to give melodii a consistent voice) but the others are improved imo
I actually like the new songs because it's more refreshed and new and more clear
Yeah, melody's voice was muffy and loud
Yeah but that one got that sweet magic
The fact that this is an unpopular opinion makes me sad
@@pemanilnoob587 no worries
Yea, now you can understand melodii much better
I honestly could go either for Jamtine’s voice because Stir and Mix is my favorite song from the original 4 But I do like her old voice a smidge more on the “Mix, mix, mix, uh huh” part
I agree on that part But overall it’s really dope
Yeah I agree, I love it
Same, i like her old voice a bit more cause of how good it portray Jamtine's slightly unhinged personality towards her crush.
Yeah especially during that little scream, made her a bit more unhinged in the original. The best way I can describe it, it’s almost like a Yandere that won’t kill but will do everything else to get who she wants
I personally like the old version better since it portrays her kinda kooky personality better but both are great the new one is just kinda calmer
I think people's preference for the old versions is jusg nostalgia/being used to it. The new version are objectively much better: understandable lyrics, better volume levels, much more skilled tuning. I think Stir and Mix and Nami are somewhat understandable they weren't that bad before, but even then i still think the new versions are improvements and show a better understanding on how to use vocal synths.
is objectively good, but it is useless if you don't take into consideration the original version created by the author, which was created on purpose as in the Mc Wave song, which despite being more consistent, the voice of the beginning matched perfectly with Mc Wave's voice due to being the same software.
you should google what objective means
do you know what the word objective means
@@dontstealmycontentplease an objective improvement, then, technically speaking.
Idk, as someone who only recently got into vocaloids (within the last year or two) I still prefer the old version. There's an objective technical improvement in the new version, but I feel like the focus was on making the vocaloids sound as good as possible, not making the songs themselves sound as good as possible. Either way, the effort they had to put in to improve the sound quality had to have been pretty insane
For those who are curious the VOCALOID voice banks (which version of software they were originally released) used for each character are: Cinnabay: Amy (Vocaloid 5) Biggie Cheesecake: Cyber Songman (Vocaloid 4) Jamtime: Cyber Diva (Vocaloid 4) Rensa(Not in the video because she's from a new song): Gumi English (Vocaloid 3)¹ Melodii: Apparently Chris (Vocaloid 5), but I didn't hear a resemblance They all most likely were all used in Vocaloid 5's engine, since all of them are compatible with it. PS: They're compatible with V6 too, but it wasn't released on the first demo and for now we can't be sure if they've switched to it, since none of them sound like Vocaloid AI (from the list, Gumi is the only one who has it) and there are no new V6 voice banks used too Now to non-vocaloid characters: Nami: Human voice actress - Meggie Elise Synthz McWave: Speech Synthesis from FL Studio, which if I'm not mistaken it's older than Vocaloid itself so the quality can't really be improved by much like all the others that you can tune it to sound more natural Mc Bean Machine(green puyo): Human voice actor - Jordo Prince ¹ Gumi English has only been released for Vocaloid 3, Vocaloid 6(AI voice bank). She'll be released for Synth V that has multi language capabilities as an AI voice bank tomorrow(December 20th)
I KNEW RENSA SOUNDED SO FAMILIAR, SO THAT'S WHYYY That makes me love her character even more 😭❤
I don’t usually listen to the English Vocaloids, but I knew Rensa sounds familiar for some reason (Except for Cyber Diva, but not enough where it’s recognizable)
The reason why Chris is hard to hear is because the gender factor in Vocaloid is turned down very low for the voice, to better suit Melodii. A lower gender factor in Vocaloid makes a voice more high/feminine sounding, while a higher gender factor makes a voice more deep/masculine sounding.
@@denkirobo makes sense I forgot about the gender function completely
even with the gender factor I still can kinda make out Chris lol
Seeing these all honestly sounds vastly improved across the board.
1:35 The way Nami said in "I just wanna be" in the old one was so good In the new one, it like someone just reduced her volume to a whisper ;-;
you mean the opposite because the “old” one was new
I was thinking the same thing
Fr I remember when that part gave me goosebumps. New one doesn’t have the same emotion.
The fact that Jamtine used to say “iT” during her song at the beginning was what I liked
Honestly for me it sounds like she’s saying “eigh” which really sounds weird to me
i think she said hey
it was most likely an error with the creator putting "i" on the note instead of something like "ai", so it simply got fixed
@@sopix7761 [I t] is standard and automatically entered [I h] is a manual change and is to sound a little more casual like a real singer doing doing less harsh pronunciations
My takes: Cream cheese icing's new version is much better across the board Melodii's old voice suited nami.wav better, with the shorter sustain and slight bitcrushing giving her a more lofi vibe. Jamtine's voice could go either way, it was just already very fitting to begin with. I think a like the new version just a lil better Melodii has a bit more energy and stronger delivery in the new versions of stir & mix and grease poppin i know that contradicts what i just said about nami.wav, but w/e its about what sounds good and that's both subjective and not strictly logical
I like jamtine’s new voice cause she actually holds the notes now instead of it just stopping in the old version
Icing's new song is much better for sure. Some lines are still a little hard to hear properly, but it's much better than the OG. I definitely prefer the old Nami.wav by far, for both melodii and nami. The songing isn't bad, and it's definitely more clear, but imo that doesn't match the vaporwave vibe nearly as well. Melodii kinda sounded like she was singing with a mouthfull of water... which fits, honestly. Jamtime is a mixed bag. Some lines were better in the OG, some in the new version. Could go either way, although I think Melodii's singing is a lot better. I'm also not sold on grease poppin'. I mean, Melodii's singing is much clearer, but now the contrast between their voices is great enough that it just feels a little off for me. It's not bad, just different, I suppose. The new songs are great though. Since they're built from the ground up with new voices, they absolutely nail them perfectly.
Idk I didn’t really like Jamtine’s voice in the new one… Which is unfortunate because that was my favorite song previously.
I really like Jamtines new voice as it fits better for the song and character, but I prefer the old version. There’s just something about the old one I like more
sameee, i think its her voice, the new voice kinda lost its cute charm(?)
nostalgia maybe?
It sounds genuine
I think the old one was almost incomprehensible what they were saying but the rythm was better, the new one has more audio quality but its more ´´bland´´ (especially the first song, the others not so much)
nah, i really like more the new version of cream cheese icing, the first was just gibberish half of the song, the new has more syle
I don’t really se how their bland at all
i feel like their voices are like too calm, while in the other one while they where more robotic and harder to understand, they had a spark to them@@sammysquid3702
They focused more on making the sound clearer than making a decent melody tbh. The original songs sounded better in everything but quality
@@hoxiipoxii56 again I disagree, I think I sounds way better on every level
fun fact: Nami has an actual voice actress
I hope to see the game complete with actual VA's to match the levels of Parappa
@@madden8021 I think a mix of both would be much more ideal. Scratchin' Melodii using vocaloid feels so unique since the only games I've saw that use vocaloid were mostly SEGA games using the Piapro vocaloids.
Ideally, you could switch between the two at any time
@@madden8021the game would loose a lot of its charm if it did imo
If you've been a long time vocaloid fan, one of the things you notice about the genre is that what's considered aesthetically "good" has shifted over time to be more naturalistic and human. Older songs tend to be more robotic, buzzy, and unnaturally high-pitched, while modern vocaloid songs tend to downplay those elements. There's obvious exceptions, but I'd say that's the general trend I've felt in vocaloid music, including in the stuff I enjoy listening to. One big factor there is that the more humanistic tuning is in fact more skillful and difficult to achieve. We have more of that skill now, almost two decades out from when Miku was first released, than we did in the early 2010s. Another big factor is that the newer versions of all different varieties of voice banks make that kind of sound easier to achieve - the samples are better and the software is better at stitching them together now. But difficult execution does not fundamentally make a more aesthetically pleasing work. I know of noise albums that are super technically difficult, but which are way less fun to listen to than your basic 4-chord pop song. I think it's undeniable that the newer vocals in Scratchin' Melodii are more technically skilled - it takes skill to remove the buzzing, and the new ones are for sure more emotional. And if that's your aesthetic preference, then sure, but there are definitely people who prefer the robotic, inhuman qualities, for reasons that go beyond just nostalgia. Losing those qualities changes the *feel* of the songs, changes the aesthetic base, and I understand why people prefer that. Personally, listening to this, I think the additional clarity & emotions in the lyrics are a welcome addition, but the new vocals consistently do this thing where they hold on the notes for half a beat longer than the old vocals did, which makes the whole thing feel less... sharp. See Melodii's vocals in the comparisons at 3:58 and 4:16 - the "stoppin'" and "poppin'" are held longer and slower, to the point where they feel like Melodii's is slurring their words. "Coastin'" and "roastin'" do not have that quality, though, and they're equally as sharp making that line one of the most straightforward upgrades in the whole video. I also think there's just a little too much emphasis on improving the emotiveness of the vocals, and it could be toned down like 10% to a happy medium that doesn't distract from the fact that they're singing. There's a bunch of moments where it feels like Melodii's response is almost inquisitive, instead of declarative - in a call & response song, you want the call to be inquisitive and the response to be declarative. Question & answer sort of vibe. This is the worst in Stir & Mix - arguably, that's the most expressive of all 4 of the OG songs, and dialing it up to 11 here hurts the song as a whole. That said all of this discussion hides the real travesty - the new backing track for Cream Cheese Icing is *so much worse* .·´¯`(>▂
A great take. Personally, I much prefer the clarity and expressive nature of the newer vocaloid systems, however I completely see what you mean about note length.
It's rare to see a logical and objective take on this platform, rather than "New version so suck". Thank you.
I love the new vocals sm..they were impossible to listen to before now i can sorta understand what theyre saying without captions
In my opinion, in stir and mix, Jamtine had a better voice in the old version, but in the new one it is too smooth. In my opinion, I would give the old voice to Jamtine and leave the new voice of our heroine.
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In my opinion, all of them were an improvement except for Jamtime. It sounds way too robotic and unnatural. Now that just may be me too used to yet old one, or that the entire point is to make them sorta robotic cuz their vocaloids, but still. Just feels off, but beside that I have no complaints!
That’s wild, because Jamtine sounds DRASTICALLY more natural in the new version to me 😮
@@Lovingmadjomit feels like the change was made to make it more natural, but the change had the reverse result
@@Sam-tl4ho NAh, for me I legitimately think it sounds significantly more natural now than it did. It was one of the changes I thought was most impressive.
It’s because the new voice is more exxagerated
I'm not sure how I feel about the new vocals. I like that the new vocals have more clarity than the older counter parts but, in some ways the old voice added more character to the songs by being a tad more robotic. It really depends on which song is being played and what section of the song it's on for what's better. I don't really know how I would blend the two versions though to get it to hit the way I'd want it to. I will say though that I kinda hate the way they completely changed cream cheese icing though. It doesn't have the same flow as the old version. Maybe that's just a me thing though.
Those are not "old voices" , those are the same voicebanks just with better tuning
0:05 hey Dj you gotta admit I’m gangnam style and always hit -Melodii 2022
The older ones are more charming and stylized. The new ones do sound (more) like real people singing, but there's something that just flosses the crevasses in my brain with the old vocals.
Oh geez. Grease Poppin was rough back then.
I think the only song I prefer the original version of is Grease Poppin’- something about Melodii’s vocal filter just feels nicer with the song
It has that old video game compressed voice sound and the filter just fit the vibe way more for me I get the new tuning, but I miss the old version. Too bad the creator removed all the old version of the songs from their channel.
I agree
@@GamerDancer yeah :(
@@GamerDancer They aré in the channel, in the playlist section
Stir and Mix will never be the same again…
REST IN PEACE OLD STIR AND MIX
i barely noticed a change in it LMAO
@@mushroomchoirare you deaf??
@@WindiestRat3 does auditory processing disorder count?
@@mushroomchoir maybe 🤔
It seems that they changed Melodii's voice in several songs to make it more consistent
1:14 melody sounds like a kazoo in the old one
Honestly, I like the old ones except for when their voice is just become physically impossible to figure out what noises they’re making
The originals definitely has its charms, and I wouldn't be opposed to having new songs start off as those and later refreshed to have both as a togglable option. "scrunkly ver." and "rescratched ver." maybe? Edit: I just love the idea that Melodii could be depicted as a younger vocaloid that is trying her best to keep up, its absolutely adorable in my head canon. qwq
I prefer the old stir and mix melodii and jamtine just sound better in that song when they sound less robotic
I love how the update makes the words easier to understand and the characters voices and colors more full of life (Ps I will argue to my grave that the jamitines song just hits different)
Both are great
We love neutral opinions
THEY BOTH GREAT SORRY IM BI I CANT MAKE CHOICES @@RaiBlu10
@@DogBat epic! :D
I will miss the old mixes and vocaloid because I've listened to them for so long, but Melodii sounds like themself in McGroove's song, and their lyrics are definitely alot clearer.
thank you so much for doing them in each scene because unlike other vid comparisons, they would just play them together so the only difference i can see is their animation and not their voices cause they’re mixed together i also felt dizzy looking back and forth to see the difference so i appreciate that you did them individually ^^❤
I’m actually pretty happy with the changes to jamtines song. I was nervous bc it’s one of my favorite songs but they actually some how made her sound even more love struck
In my opinion, the quality of the art have more contrast colour and clearer lines compared to the old one, but the old voice still iconic though the voice pretty decent, the new one have more refreshing voice
I think the new vocals are great! I do kinda agree on Jamtime’s song sounding a little better in the older version (though Melodii themself sounds great in all the changed vocals). For me it’s mostly the “I want him to be mine,” section that got a downgrade with the new vocals. Cinnabay and Biggie however had a *major* improvement to their song. I could understand someone liking the older version for nostalgia’s sake, but it feels so rough compared to the most recent version.
The Old Ver For Stir And Mix Actually Has A Much More Lovey-dovey Vibes Than The Newer One
Great to see how it evolved!
but fr old jamtines voice fit so well now it just feels like pinkie pie
The old voice sounds too robotic, listen to the “i wanna” part again
I actually like both of them. The 2022 robotic voice sounds good, but the 2023 voice sounds like someone’s actually singing it. I like the 2023 version more(not by a lot, it’s extremely close), but the 2022 sounds pretty good.
I really agree because she sound weird when she says “making cookies for my love I stir and mix” and now it sounds like “making cooies for mayh love ai ster and mix”
I really like how it's not just an Audio updated, they've really updated the graphics too! It's subtle but noticeable ^^ plus the Game play looks so much better too! Hope they keep up with this game
I’m so excited for this game to come back because I loved it last year!
At 0:40, i personally perfer the older style since it looks like her face is retracting a LOT in the new one
I like the remade of the first and the McWave song, but Nami and the cookie songs were a bit more stylized in their older version, the main char's voice added a funny tone to the musics. The new colors and better details make it all pop more in your face. Overall, 7/10
The fact people prefer the old CCI is absolutely crazy to me
x2, the original was literally gibberish
@@dacerber that’s what I liked about tbh. but to each their own :)
V1’s beat is better(to me)but the vocals are bad V2’s vocals on V1’s beat would be peak
you mean a slower cci?@@inkrements
I can really hear melodiis improvements! I really like her new voice!
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I don't why I like old Jamtine version
I do have to say that I miss the older version of Stir And Mix but the new version does sound a lot more clear which is good, and for Grease Poppin melody sounds a LOT better than before, they actually sound like themselves now lol, I love this game
The improvement to Melodii specifically is amazing!
I kinda miss some small details in the old ver. like the cute art in the pop up windows 0:33 and being able to see the side of Nami's eyes at 0:42
ive never heard of this game but it reminds of parappa , definitely gonna look into it more as i loved the parappa games
I really like the old voices. The robotic vocoloid sounds adds to it
I like the new version much more, I feel the animation is more fluid, and the voices are better understood than before
I have mixed feelings with the newer versions, I preferred the art style and for some songs the old voice sounds alot better. But some of the songs needed different vocals.
The old voice for jamtine seemed the most off for me, it felt more..boring? or it just lacked the sound of excitement and uniqueness of Melodii's and Jamtine's voice. For the old ones Melodii seemed to match her opponent/partner's tone. For example is; Synthz McWave's song, She matched his somewhat monotone/more robotic voice and it had a charm to it! Now it felt off? Idk how to describe it. But the OLD Sweetz Siblings really needed a change. The old one was very inaudible (to me)
HOLYY THE TUNING ON THE VOCALOIDS IMPROVED SO MUCH
that is ever best comparison edit: OMG I JUST NOTICED THAT ITS WAS THE VOCALOID ONES
I really liked the original version of cream cheese icing Edit:roses are red violets are blue I liked my own comment because nobody wanted to
You are a monster
How? My opinion I like new the lyrics of he old one was 😜😜got that ee OO 😜😜 got that ee oo got thaf sweet sweet magic
@@TealPlatypus well tbh I agree with you but it’s the “DJ I gotta admit this kids got style and bars to spit”but overall I prefer the new version of everything els
1:15 Melodii sounds like she’s nasally congested
Keep up the good work, those are big improvements.😁
Holy moly these songs improved so much!
At first it sounded weird but after listening again i think it's an improvement. They still have the fun Voca sound, but they put way more emotion into it. It makes the weirdness into a style choice instead of a quirk of the tools.
i honestly think i like the old versions of stir & mix and grease poppin, but cream cheese icing is def a major improvement
Excited for the next one where it starts to really sound good
I love how they did not only improved cheese icing but also the song itself
1:44 look at the new version of ghis song, the melodii idle at the start changed, lol (mouth only idk)
Her hair moves now-
@@P3dro_msm i also noticed that lmao
I like how they're more clear and easier to understand
There was a definite charm to the original nasally fuzz but the new vocaloids are definitely clearer
This update feels like a half and half creamer. One half is filled with amazing songs, The other is bad changes to already amazing songs.
im mixed about it because a few cases are better but there are a few cases where its worse
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I love the stir and mix either way
I like the new ones better underrated opinion
Same
its new tune or new vocaloids?, btw as for me it was better before?, but, anyways very cool, ly :3
and fix the new line at the top(
bro the old voices sucked they all sounded dehydrated
New tuning and small settings changes! Iirc no voicebank changes
honestly i love the new version a lot more, it's a lot more noticeable with melodii, cinnabay & biggie cheesecake. i didn't really like their og tuning because it sounded robotic, but it's SO much better now. i think the revamp was a very good change
i really love the new the voices I just need time to used to sir and mix and also Melodiis new voice! but its really good overall!!!
I love the new voices, but I do prefer Jamtine’s old one
I love the cleaner vocals especially the first song the comparison is just night and day
the diference between V2 and V4X is crazy
alot clearer but i like the energetic feel of the old one more
I’m always worried why melodii’s hair goes up when she screams in the cinnabay vs biggie cheesecake song.
What vocaloids do they use in the old one?
The same ones, they just have a different tuning!
Still bops for sure
2:28 that face tho 💀💀💀
Jamtine voice is better in the remake, sounds really good to me. Idk why people don't like melodii new voice, is like a synthV a bit. I hope my UTAU sound fluid like that...
Like FOR REAL bro i seriously cant get why people prefer the old Jamtine voice, like sure at first it sounds off but listening to it 3 or 4 times its enough to realize that it has superior sound quality and its way more melodic
Old jamtine
I like both
i like the old versions better for some songs/characters but the new versions are an overall improvement!
i think old grease popping is better but the rest are massive improvements
It’s just way better
It sounds cool
Both sound good.
Im so confused why everyone hating on the new voices. It's legitimatelt has been improved in every way. Though Ill say the old jamtime voice has more "kick" to it while the new one feels more smooth edged a lot. It's still really good though. Also the "I just wanna be!" In nami's song feels so weak now. But still the hate towards the new voices is so whack omg
i like jamtine old voice because new jamtine voice like ai
old sounds like ai
@@crow231 are the same voice just with a new voice adjustments
@@maidenrelish5906 yeah its the same
jamtine sounds so devoid of emotion and passion now
The reason why the new version of stir and mix sounds higher pitch because the sound is more sharper and refined making the illusion its higher pitched and some lines in the old version is higher than the new one if you look another comparison