The 200 Toyota Series Land Cruiser | Common Problems | LC200 Vs. LX570
Prices of the 200 series Toyota Land Cruiser are on the rise. But Should You Buy One?
In this video we discuss some common issues that I see with 200 series land cruisers that may make you want to rethink paying the top price that they commend.
We'll also cover the difference between a 200 series land cruiser and a lexus LX570
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0:00 Intro
0:50 Things to Check Outside
10:48 Things to Check Underneath
26:55 Land Cruiser VS Lexus LX570
33:22 Important Recap
AMD, The most common problem with the Land Cruiser 200 Series and LX 570 is that we CANNOT AFFORD them. 😉😂🤣 Having said that, we do wish Toyota would bring us some of the simpler, more affordable versions of the Land Cruiser they sell overseas. 🤞🤞
Well, we will be getting the Prado in the US simply badged as ‘Land Cruiser’. It’s been announced.
@@electrikoptikthat's not a land cruiser though
Roadrunner
@@daddygonzalez8405 The Prado is just as much Land Cruiser as the bigger 200/300-series and 70-series Land Cruiser. The LC Prado started as a light duty version of the 70-series in 1984 which later in 1990 evolved to the J70 LC Prado. Afterwards came the J90, J120 and the current J150-series. The bigger 300-series is more robust and heavy duty but that does not make the LC Prado ‘lesser’.
@@Sonofiraq24Forerunner
I do not own either a Land Cruiser or Lexus LX570, and probably never will. So why am I watching this video? Because this guy is good!!
I've had several Toyotas but the Land Cruiser build quality really does feel like a step up.
Land cruisers are built differently, thats why they are so expensive.
Well unlike most other Toyota’s sold recently. It was actually Made in Japan unlike other Toyota’s.
LC is made in Japan. 4Runner as well. Taco/Tundra/Seq. are USA made.
😂😂😂 from fkn what?
As a shop that only works on Land Cruisers I cringed when he said he had never seen a radiator that leaked. For me I've yet to see a pre 18' that didn't leak. We have replaced every single one that come into the shop with the flaw on the embossment for the manufacturer. You can easily tell if it's the old crappy style because the edges around it are sharper. The new style that supersedes the old one has been redesigned with a thicker more smother edge that doesn't crack. Sometimes the crack is really small and if you have an iphone and put it in magnifier mode and zoom in you will see where the crack starts and it's in the corners of the embossment. Bad thing about the 570 is the plastic covers hide all this. I've yet to see this crack be the death nail for the 200 series but all pre 18's with this flaw will fail. Toyota should have extended the warranty on these. Also we see some with the center diff lock light that flashes when it's cold. I think you nailed all the rest.
The radiator on my 2010 diesel has 540.000km and no leaks.
2008 model here, no leaks.
i had my 2010 replaced around 115k after it blew.. The diff lock was also flashing but it started working after banging it with a hammer a few times. ......
My 570 has replaced the radiator three years ago.
You work in a shop, you’re like a doctor but for cars. There are 1,000 people in my small town that have diabetes. Of a total population of 10,000 people. If I worked in a shop that sold diabetic test strips, I could say every person in this town seems to have diabetes. But there are 9,000 that don’t have it. Not trying to take away from what your saying, just adding perspective. There’s about 18,000 LC 200 made per year. What percentage leak? 1%, 5%, 20%? Now since I said this, I’m sure mine will leak 😅
I am an owner of LC200, add to that: 1. Crack of top plastic of the radiator. It happens more to one’s with more driving cycle and cold climates. 2. Coolant leak from engine underneath the intake manifold, leak can be seen from bottom on the torque converter housing. 3. Sunroof drain plugs and leaks, water can go through the roof tell the kick of panel you have shown. It will corrode the big wire connection. 4. Rotors will warpage even through the brake pads still thick. 5. Transfer case actuator do go bad after some time and needs replacement. It will require dismantling the transfer case. 6. Be carful when you replace the air conditioning filter, put the ac at recalculation mode or you will brake the blind door. 7. 2016 and up do have more problems with blind doors actuator going bad. Thank you for the informative Video👍 If I am not mistaken, the late models came with aisin 8speed.
All true. #6 I broke my actuator and it was a +$3000 repair
FYI. The cost to fix the oil leak on the center stack shown on the LX will be between $7-10k depending on the shop. If it has been leaking for some time you can expect to replace the rubber hoses in the area because the oil will deteriorate them. I went through this on one of mine 2 years ago. If you see this run. Move on to the next one.
what is a center stack?
You are the man! I have spent months researching for 200 or LX 570 and this video has helped me so much. Everyone talks about how bulletproof they are but no one talks about key issues to look out for. It's always landcruiser last forever and just look for rust but that's about it. I don't want to spent top dollars then have to spend top dollar to fix it. If I do at least would like to know what I am getting myself into. Thank you so much for this video.
LC are hard to find. LX more likely especially one not taken off road. Best advice is find a good shop that specializes in LC/LX and spend the few hundred bucks on a thorough documented pre purchase inspection.
My 2010 diesel LC200 has 520.000 km, had two small problems, my car lives in the worst conditions a car can exist in. Replacing the oil every 15.000km and tectyl treat the car every 3 years is the key to few problems. Rust is the main cause for expensive repairs for LC200.
May I ask what top dollar is? I bought mine and thought it was truly expensive. LC200 2008 V6 Petrol 124.000km for almost 13.000 Euro. No rust, basically perfect condition. But still.... 15 year old car for that price, ouch.
@@QnA22 top dollar is $25,000-$30,000 for 2008. You got a steal with yours. Super cheap!
This is true of every Toyota to be honest. The kool-aid drinking fan boys do an excellent job of covering things up and making you think you’ll never need a repair done ever. They need repairs and maintenance just like anything else. yours truly, 1995 4Runner, GX460, and LX570 owner.
The Radiator is a common issue on the 08-17 models with the actual core itself but the neck that is made of thin plastic and cracks over time. Toyota updated the designed with a thicker, chamfered neck in the 2018+ models. Also Cam tower & coolant vallet leaks as all 5.7 3UR's are susceptible to can also go wrong.
“The Radiator”!!!!
The best 200 series engine is 4.5L twin turbo V8 diesel. The 1VD-FTV
The diesel makes a lot more sense, but have more issues.
As the owner of an LX470 I relate heavily to the stigma of land cruiser owners 😂 Excellent video as always, I would love to upgrade to a 200 series one day and this will help immensely!
I had an LX470 and thought it was the best car I ever owned until I upgraded to a 570. Upgrade if you can, you won’t regret it, but I do regret not keeping the LX470.
Lol, the worst ones are on the Land Cruiser subreddit when someone posts a question about which to buy. They talk about the LX’s AHC like it’s riding around with a Range Rover’s air suspension yet never mention anything about LC’s with AHC ever having a problem. Then they talk about the 20/21” rims like they turn the LX into an AWD Sienna off-road. “Oh myyy gwaaaaahd those LX’s! They’re just teeeeahrrible! The fancyness just ruins them!” -Idiots.
@@aaronmacy9134 Love my lx570 with ahc that's still mint condition lol, I mean I've thrown the thing airborne multiple times 5-6 feet into the air offroad. The cream interior is extra work to keep clean for sure though.
Me too…then the GX550 was released with the same 112.2” wheelbase so, there’s that now as well!😊
@@joshuacloutier840 it’ll just become a garage queen if/when the GX550 happens
I think your channel is a gift to the Toyota community. I have a 2019 LC 200 and plan to pass it down to the next generation. I have noticed that the air conditioning dampers sometimes misdirect air on the driver side, but then the problem spontaneously went away and hasn’t come back in the last year. It is nice that your channel has a couple of videos on the LC, which usually doesn’t get much discussion in depth, probably because there are not many of them.
I just bought an LX570 and was hoping you would make a video about them...and here we are! Big thanks!
Hands down one of the best channels on KZhead. And this is coming from a GM guy!
I love you for this brother. Just sent to all my LC200 groups on social media. Keep it up
I shopped for and found a 2013 LX570. Gorgeous 1 owner, dealer maintained, all records no accident history. That all checks out. But! Its from Long island albeit a very "nice" neighborhood. Frame "crust" starting. Only 50,000 miles, but needing immediate attention on the undercarriage. 2 weeks in the AHC springs a leak. Rusted hydraulics line. 😢 Fast forward i replaced that line. De-scaled all frame rust including suspension and lines. Neutralized rust and now I'm POR 15 painting the underside and will be lanolin treated inside and outside frame! I'm in for the long haul and I genuinely love this car!
What's wrong with the oil under spray. In Canada we have companies like Krown Rust Control, Rust Check and others that do a great job of combating rust. It's an annual application, but it works very well and will increase your resale value.
Land Cruiser videos are always satisfying to watch👏 something has to be said about these cars even compared to other Toyota trucks since they rust at a noticeably lesser level imo
I love the level of honesty in this review
This is a diamond video to watch. Spot on on critical things to watch. Based on this video - I bought a Landcruiser VX V8 2011 60th Anniversary in 2024 with 105K km on the clock. So my 13 year old (two owner) car looked great. No rust. (Because driving in Malaysia). Upon purchase, changed ACH globes. So no longer does stationary dives at traffic lights. Drives like a dream at up to 165 kph on our expressway,. Cruising at 150kph is the norm. (Vs 120kph for the Landcruiser Prado 2.7L). Sits happily in long traffic jams if needed. It feels and looks like a new car despite being 13 years old! The "Facelift" to 2021 model and the PX6 16" (Tesla-esque) centre console makes the car feel new. Both done by the previous owner...
AMD, as always, I appreciate your informative and clear explanations. Thank you!
When i want to kick back and relax i just play one of your KZheads, thank you!
Great video @CCN! I've owned 2 200 Series now (08 LX & 13 LC) and I actually miss the LX because of all the comfort features and amenities that the LC's utilitarian nature doesn't possess. In addition, you forgot to mention 1 achilles hill in the 200 series, valley plate/heat exchanger leak, which is very common in the 3UR-FE. If anyone is looking at one of these, bring a scope with you to look under the intake before purchasing. This alone can be a $1,200 fix.
200 series owner checking in here… I’ve always loved your channel and I just noticed the little fish in your logo, ichthys. So cool.❤❤
I bought a 2015 Lexus LX 570 this past February, and it has been a great experience. It spent most of its previous life in Oklahoma and Arkansas, so rust was never an issue I had to consider. I've wanted a Land Cruiser since I was 18, and now 14 years later have managed to get one with 88k miles. Car Care Nut is proper; the engine bay is very cramped, so changing my spark plugs out compared to my 05' Camry was a hassle. Fortunately, there is a great community of enthusiasts out there who will gladly help you sort your truck out. The LX was about $10k cheaper than similar Land Cruiser models of the same year and mileage. I'd encourage anyone to buy a well-maintained LX over a well-maintained Land Cruiser for that reason.
How much did you get your LX for I’m looking at at 2014 lx570 with 148,000 miles and they want 30,000 after taxes and everything. I’m considering doing it seems like a very clean vehicle it’s just a lot of money haha.
Enjoyed this technical video. The discussions about Landcruiser differences is quite interesting. Thank you for this video!
I may be in the market for one of these SUVs and so glad I saw this video. Good templet to know what issues to look out for. The videos are put together well, very informative. Thanks
I’ve owned several land cruisers and rust has been the demise of them. Sadly living in eastern North America, it’s a BIG problem. That coupled with expensive parts. Otherwise I would have kept my Toyotas forever. They never let me down, they are machines , and wear and require maintenance, but they are well made. So now I’m shopping for my last LandCruiser/LX 570, or GX V8. Shopping can be fun, when you’re shopping for a new TOY ! Really appreciate your time recording these videos, I wished I lived near you because I would work with you to find me my last ride. Peace! And have a great DAY.
Great vid, going to look at a LC tomorrow, super glad I ran across this. Awesome tips
love how much detail you go into very helpful thanks
You're videos are always informative! Thank you so much!
This is the video I've been waiting for!
Very interesting video. Learned a lot about what to look for when purchasing a used Land Cruiser or the Lexus. Noticed one had a transfer case skid plate (I believe) that had tubes to hold it on the frame that were full of holes and one end was breaking off.
My dream car, I prefer the LC because of no AHC, another item I don’t have to worry about servicing. And the back hatch is manual, takes 2 seconds to close the door with my hand not a button.
I followed this channel when it barely had subscribers. Now up to 755k. This is one of the best technical toyota/lexus channel period, none of that Scotty K BS.
Good Video. I agree and disagree with several things. 1) Radiator (Disagree) The factory radiator rarely lasts more than 70-80K. Both of these 200's have the newer style radiators so they have both been replaced. 2) Timer cover leak/cooling tower leak is very rare. You are much more likely to have a valley coolant leak. 3) Suspension mods (Neutral), 200 series suspension mods on the market are very good. You can change your LC for the better with a good suspension setup. 4) Rust. (100 percent agree). Especially in the LX models, you will have very expensive AHC leaks. 5) LC cost more than LX because of supply and demand. There are about half as many LC's in the US than the LX...both had very low production numbers. Bonus issue: Cycle the 4LO, many of these the 4LO actuator will fail to engage. Especially if 4LO is never used. The internal contacts get rusty and corrode.
Very pleased to have found your channel I love Toyota SUV and Trucks Thanks for previews of common problems of these behemoths....very nice trucks
Love your vids! Watch one per day! and my 96 Camry & I have benefited so much from It and we thank you guys❤ I really can’t wait to see you make a video on a 5sfe engine, valve cover, common oil leaks and how to repair, see lots of videos on it with very different opinions, I would love your take. Also would love to see a video on how you feel about fuel additive, engine flush, and aftermarket cleaners & more in Toyotas and do they actually do things or help! Keep doing what ur doing we all love it!
Key take away: don't try and run a land cruiser on a tight budget, and don't buy one from someone who has.
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Great channel 100 series owner here, subscribed!
Glad To Have You & Servicing My 4RUNNER 😎
You covered pretty much everything. The earlier ones had belt/tensioner issues also
I do agree on the lifting and modifying personally. It is perfect as it is. But I have also modified many of them in my younger years, too. I think for every individual they should make it to be the way they want, and I will never judge anyone for modifying their vehicle. Even if it is not to my taste, it makes them happy. That's what life is all about right? Finding happiness in everything you do :-) God bless, and great video!
Happy owner of a 2013 LX570 with 76k km. Only 3 years of limited winter driving but it rusted fast. Good to learn about oil spots to watch out for. I removed 3rd row and swapped to Tundra brake kit. LX is heavy with a hundred small motors, sound proofing, and oversized components (motor mounts!) that are made to last forever. Hard to find after-market parts. Hydraulic lift is great to lower for my wife's bad hip and rising to full height for off-road.
I bought a 2023 4runner TRD pro and my bottom hurts so much after driving 2-3 hours in it, now I'm seriously thinking to trad in for a 2016-2019 LX570, thanks for the video!
This is beautiful! Thank you for sharing! I've got an LX 570 as our next family vehicle, but we're targeting used.
Thank you for your video! I purchased an 2019 LX last year (certified). It’s the best car/truck I’ve ever owned… period.
This is awesome, Sir. Very eloquently done. Thank you
Fantastic and very informative video. Top notch content as usual. Thank you.
I can not say enough how appreciative I am and everyone that watch this educating video. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge & experience with us. May God bless you with long healthy life and may he fills your life with happiness, peace & prosperity.
Both are beautiful trucks, TY for the inside information was looking to buy a 16-19 LX now I know what to look for ❤!!
Love the content and THANK YOU for all you do! As an owner myself of a 2023 GX460, I'd love to learn more from you on that vehicle with regard to maintenance as you perform it on your own GX.
I can’t wait to see a video on a 2016 Toyota Sienna SE Premium : Complete Spark plug change . I am a fan , all the way from Yorktown Texas 🇨🇱.
THE Best car reviewer hands down !
Ive already viewed all of his vids about the 4Runner...for me, the ONLY upgrade that im looking to get into is an LC200/LX...or if i can dream big enough, this new GX...thank you for giving us this vid...
As always thank you AMD very much for another helpful video about the best SUVs available on the car market. As the owner of 2006 Lexus LX 470 myself I agree with all points you mentioned before buying one especially the AHC system and the engine leaks.
Amazing explanation. Thanks for sharing this enlightening video!
Great video AMD, both are great vehicles but you point out some important areas to inspect! I wonder if the rust prevention on the new LX600 frames will be better?
So detailed explanation. Not always but I impressed!
Great lesson learned from this experience. Thank you.
You're a champ for making this! Thank you.
One of the best LandCruiser and LX videos.
Great video as always brother ... I plan to upgrade to a 200 Series when the time is right as my Lx470 is well over 200K miles
Thanks so much I got a lx 600 and I was thinking looking for a Lift kit, I will keep it as it is Thanks AMD as always excellent recommendations
All thorough and will done. Just one more thing you didn't mention. In 2016 the land cruiser had an updated 8 speed transmission. Is that what you meant?. If not, tell us your verdict. Lovely work
Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Iam a 200 series guy i always watch your video i learned alot thanks a lot
i own a 2016 LX570 with 250,000+ km. The car has been extremely reliable with the desert heat at 50c and rough roads when i go off-roading. Yet you travel comfortably known that you'd reach your destination no matter what. once i was in Empty Quarter in Saudi arabia, the nearest town was 400km away. the fuel pump started failing due to sand in fuel tank, yet the car turned on and drove across the desert until i reached a mechanic shop.
Hello! I was so happy to see this video as you know I own a 2021 Land Cruiser Heritage. I still need an assortment of original parts as we discussed so I can have them on hand. Stephen R
I really enjoy watching your channel on your tube! You see a very kind and honest man ( very hard cone by nowadays, specially in your traid ). How and what do you recommend to keep underneath the vehicle rust free or/and keep it from getting out of control? I appreciate your knowledge and time. Keep the good work going.
Good video! Thanks! Both vehicles never sold in Canada
Interesting video. We need your expertise about the new LX600 as well as a video !
OMG I have been waiting for this very video! I have wanted a LC for over 30 years. I have always had Toyotas since 1987. For work I drove GMC, Ford, and Dodge off road for 3 decades, so Toyotas were always for me. In late 2021, I finally scored a 2019 LC, 1 owner, no accidents, not fleet, Certified, with 21K miles. Unbelievable. Clean as a whistle. Yes, I looked. Loved it so much that we sold the 2019 Tundra Crewmax Limited with 30k the last May 2023 and bought a Certified 2019 LX 570. One owner. No accidents. Not fleet. Had 30k miles. I was nervous about the AHC system. We really wanted another LC but it is difficult to find one that isn't over priced or was/is compromised mechanically. I caught flak from friends on the LX but continue to say over and over that it is simply a LC in a tuxedo and not as valuable as the LC. There were on average only about 3,000 LCs imported each year over the last 2? decades. There were only 4,000 LX's imported. So there is the simple availability factor. But people treat the LX wirth awe but I always explain the LC is simpler. I like the KDSS better and I simply like the way it drives better than the LX. Unfortunately, I don't trust the Lexus dealership where I live. I only trust one Toyota dealership which is 120 miles away (but worth the TLC). But, both dealerships have said they don't see either respective vehicle very often. Again, not that many 200 LCs and LX 570's around. So, for serious stuff I may have to drive to Chicago to see you or perhaps the specialty shop in Boise which would be a "going on vacation" type of repair. The dealerships are frightening, unfortunately.
Struggling with teh option of selling my 80 series land cruiser and getting an LX570. Wish I could have both 😃, GREAT video!!
Thank you for this video. I honestly hope, you, sir, live forever
Thank you for sharing your expertise and experience.
I had a 100 series that was fully built. 5.29 gears, transfer case gears, 35"s bumpers, etc. Miss that rig so much. I plan on buying a 2017 LX570 in a few years and putting portals with 38" tires on it. Been a long time since I have been able to go offroading and I cant wait to get on the trails again with the newer tech and creature comforts.
Amazing breakdown, thank you!
Good video. You have made my decision easy,now I’m gonna go buy two of them land cruisers
I like your videos. Especially the Land Cruiser ones. Any common problems regarding A/C would be interesting. I am having problem with the A/C air recirculation filter/motor. Sometimes A/C does not start and I have to wait up to a minute to start
Great Video! I’m a 8yr LX570 owner and love it! (Owned 2 LCs before it) One more reason the LX costs less than the Land Cruiser is availability. 3-4x more LX’s than LCs were sold in the US every year (before they were discontinued). Simple supply and demand. For those of you looking to buy, these are bomber vehicles, but know they are COSTLY! Even used. Very expensive to fuel, insure, and repair.
Another check recommendation for a very common issue: CABIN AIR FILTER DOOR Check to make sure it moves appropriately from recirc to fresh mode. This door can be found through the glove box. The cabin air filter is only accessible if the air is in recirc mode. This isn’t made clear (especially on earlier models of the 200), and the door is often forced open to replace or inspect the filter, even by Toyota techs. This can pop the door off its solenoid pin, or worse, break the pin or its housing. Popping it back in place can be done, but requires removing the glove box. Repairing it requires tedious door removal and superglue. Replacing it requires total dash removal and big $$$, from what I understand. Lots of details on IH8MUD of this issue (~1/3 of surveyed had it). If broken, I’d demand it to be fixed and get photo proof that the fix was high quality. If the cabin air filter door doesn’t work, you can fog up the interior glass real bad in wet conditions, making a driving hazard. Not to mention you’re paying a lot for this vehicle: The recirc/fresh selector should work, period.
That's why I do it myself. Follow instructions, no issues.
I’m glad you posted this up, might not have heard about this otherwise. Thanks
YES the video I've been waiting for!!
We roll in a 2017 Lexus LX 570 with 23,000 miles on it, and all I can say is WOW. The vehicle is very comfortable, very capable, and were very satisfied.
Thanks for this video! When you mentioned the starter being better on this compared to the tundra it made me wonder, can you install a Land cruiser's starter when it fails on a tundra to "bulletproof" it?
2024 LC is coming back to the US and can’t wait for your technical review.
Wow , seem like this channel read my mind, was thinking buy a used Lx570 or a new Gx550 and here it’s is a video about Lx570. Thank you
In Kenya, we get the LC200 with the 1UR engine. Really enjoyed this video.
Thank you for the Informative video. Subscribed!
Thanks for the great content, I purchased a 2013 Lx570 after a long search for rust free low, miles and found one here in NE. Can you do a proper AHC flush-bleed vid, that you mentioned here. Would be much appreciated. Great job !!
You solved out a biggest confusion.
Great video! Now I know what to look for! Thanks!
Nice my mentor i keep watching you I'm in Ghana still learning mechanic i wish i can master it well one day at your shop..... It shall come to pass my mentor❤
As always, another excellent video! Thank you very much for taking the time to share all this info with us. It’s so valuable to know all of these tricks on these vehicles.
i have one for my dad's 2019 toyota land cruiser some removal third row seat september 2019 some more room and it very reliable and no issues whatsoever
In the US the J200 never had a five-speed transmission. It started with the six-speed and went to eight gears with the mid-cycle refresh in 2016.
Well said about the KDSS on 4Runner and GX. I often see leaks on forums and FB groups. I think in rust belt it gets worse on the control valve on the driver side frame. One of the reasons I don't buy KDSS 4Runners.
The best youtube show in my life . Love you brother. Allah blessed you ❤❤
Great video. Any chance you will do another Q&A video in the near future? I have questions about my 2012 Prius lol
Live these cars. Great informative video.
Love your videos, thanks. This one however was pretty dark and often out of focus.
Love that you had a salsa red LC200, lx570 and Gx460 all at the same time!
Thats actually the GX470 because it the rear end design