KPOP QUEENS EXPOSING TOXIC KOREAN BEAUTY STANDARDS (ENG SUB)
2020 ж. 21 Қаң.
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#Kpop #weightloss #tea
(ENG SUB) Legendary Kpop Idols exposing the harsh industry and what it did to them/ those around them. Girls' Generations Tiffany Young, Mamamoo Hwasa, Soloist Ailee, Wonder girls Sunmi, FX Amber and many more open up.
"Hwasa is one of the biggest modern kpop influencers promoting a healthy and normal weight within the industry" Go ahead, Hwasa!!
Literally still so skinny. This is crazy how K-pop standards are.
@@unknownmke Hwasa is not skinny, she have that middle body type, I remember one interview said that she can't even fit M or S Size ( Korean standard, which is S size in American size ), she eat healthy too.
@@ibelieveinwoozisupremacy8681 she IS skinny just her body tipe is a normal size like jisoo of blackpink... You search and hwasa is over 44 kg.... But still healthy
Yuri snsd Too she s healthy
@@ibelieveinwoozisupremacy8681 actually korean sizes are wayyy effing smaller than american ones
*Queen Hwasa once said: **_If I don't fit the beauty standards, I'll set my own standards._*
And that’s on period
Yesssss 🖐🏽❤️
But on what planet is she considered "heavy" tho?
And yeah she really does
@@kalebh3419 exactly omg. She is not even 'heavy'. Just has more curves. I would still term her as 'thin' 😶
“I want to be a mother”, people took her last wish
😢😢
😭
My heart just cant believe she is no more😭💔
@@khoirunnisa9579 can you please tell me who are you talking about?
@@khansamaryam7988 sulli
What’s crazy is that Hwasa is actually around 98-108 pounds which is the weight for her height. She just has thicker Hips and thighs which is natural for her. I hate these Kpop industry standards like when they are too “fat” they are told to lose weight but then when they become skinny and underweight they are told “oh you are too skinny gain some weight”. It’s weird to me the way they criticize idols. But it’s Korea’s standards.
Yeah I totally agree! Like - I'm 12 years old, average height and around the same weight and have been called "curvy" by my parents and grandparents my whole life 😂
Oh my- I was 108 when I was ten this is toxic
It happens because they see some fat in some areas they don’t want and when she loses more fat, some areas she should have fat in loses that, too. I know this as I have the same problem. For example I have fat in my arms and little bit of pouch, but not enough fat in my calves. What happened is, I tried to change that going into plastic surgery and ruined my beautiful body. Now I’m depressed and hate myself even more.
I can't imagine being 50 pounds lighter than I am currently and people telling me I look fat???
She does?? I am African, she looks stick thin to me and that should not affect her career is she is talented
"If I don't fit into this generation's standards then I will become MY OWN standard" Ahn Hwasa
Queen 👸
Honestly I am so gay for her. She is amazing in so many ways
unless they plan to discriminate and oust girls who don't fit the standard, there won't be one standard
QUEEN
Hwasa also said "It's ok to not be fine"...... Gogobebe!
Remember when TWICE's leader Jihyo said on vlive that "We shouldn't do diets if we don't want to, we should eat what we want while we take care of our mental and physical health"
💜💜💜god I love her
Jihyo was also fat-shamed a lot... People are sick
remember when yoo jiae refused to go on diets and spoke about it and even revealed that she'd sneak her members snacks when they were dieting
We dont know what the thing happen behind the camera
Remember when on Sixteen after she was put into minor group for looking too heavy in the photo shoot challenge she came came back the next week and sang "All About that Bass"? Jihyo's pretty thin now and I hope it's because she's healthy and happy but, she's always had that savage confidence. :)
"Its my standard" He had balls for someone with nasty teeth.
@changbinnie who is he
His standards are just too low ...
God, this video’s about hate on someone’s appearance, and y’all keep doing it. It doesn’t matter who you’re criticizing, it’s wrong anyways. I know his attitude was terrible but it doesn’t mean we have the rights to talk about his appearance. Y’all are doing the same thing here he did with Sulli on that show.
Yup right , criticizing someone on thier looks untill its a medical issue is okay . But putting your fantasy on someone who have nothing to do with you is insane . The company has already done a lot of changes ... So they don't have to say anything.
@a.z. You know what , we all are like this ... You never know untill its on you ... He surely have enough hate to face after the words he spoked ..
Ailee’s situation is so heartbreaking!!! 😭 she was just trying to pursue her passion which is singing but the toxic and judgmental people won’t just let her!
I'm starting to believe that she might've been better off pursuing her singing career in the US. At least people in the US aren't as judgmental about appearances compared to South Korea. If I were to become a pro singer, South Korea would definitely be the last place I would go to do that tbh.
@@TC-ve9rn If what you are saying is true, how many Asian American singers do you know from US? And, why do you think Asian Americans have to go to S Korea to become well known singer, instead of become a singer in US? Why do you think there are no Asian American singers, when we watch billboard, Grammy, or any rewards? BTS is not Asian Americans.
Allow me to ask you a question. Ailee became a singer, because of her singing skills and, plus her looks. If it wasn't for her looks, she might not gotten her opportunity. If a singing is an only qualification, there are many people who can sing better than Aliee. Aliee got her shot because, of her looks and her singing skills. Then, why complain? This doesn't make sense to me, can you explain? i can see an argument that many talented and better singers compare to Aliee, if they complain that Aliee got her shot because of her looks.
@@warriorforgod5949 There aren't a lot of people that can sing better than Ailee lol. Maybe some but definitely not a lot.
@@warriorforgod5949 Because there aren't a lot of Asian Americans that want to become singers to begin with lol. Most of them pursue a career in a more practical field in big tech corporations like Amazon, Facebook, Google, and so forth or in the medical field where they can be guaranteed job stability. An Asian American mindset in general is very much focused on practicality, money, and job security rather than passion whereas for the other Americans, they are encouraged to just do whatever that interest them the most.
In hwasa's words " if I dont fit in this generation's standards of beauty, then I will set my own standard"
Yes my queen hwasa💖👑
She’s my inspiration.
AMEN. PEEEEERIOODDD
Whatta babe. Hwasa is such a babe. Fight me karens.
And she deserves to rule 💕
Let's face it... None of these idols are overweight or obese
@•Happy• •Blank• They weren't overweight/obese and still aren't.
That’s so crazy to me like 110 pounds and ppl tell you you’re fat wtfffff like sis
@@khiasvlogs1127 I had to convert that to kgs but yes.... a 110 pounds is nowhere near fat and depending on your height it might even be underweight.
Saaliha Sadiq that’s the thing that’s so crazy to me like these girls are skinny and they try to get skinner and starving themselves they will never be able to perform at thier best that makes me sad cause now I worry about the girls of bp
@@khiasvlogs1127 I hate how the industry forces idols who are perfectly healthy to lose weight through dangerous methods. There's a difference between maintaining a healthy weight through diet and exercise and having to starve. The worst part is other Koreans look up to these idols and follow the same. Toxic diet culture needs to stop.
When Sunmi said “ I’m a person “.. It gave me chills. Please everyone, just be kind to one another.
Korean beauty standard is only toxic for foreigners who don't meet it. Every country has their own culture which goes way deeper than your average understanding, if you (or anyone) can't respect that then you better shut your lips.
i feel so bad for f(x) to be honest. Every single member is hated so much for their own reasons. Amber is hated for being a tomboy, Krystal is hated for being too chubby and fat shamed, Victoria is hated for being chinese and also she was once fat shamed so she lost a LOT of weight, Luna literally starved herself to death and sadly Sulli was also fat shamed and hated so bad that she couldn't take it anymore. They were a group with so much talent and potential but it's so sad that they got so much hate😭
Do you remember their NU ABO days? They were so happy back then... It's just sad that they've finally won an opportunity to be a girl group but in the end the fans were the ones holding them back.
well if everyone in that group died then everyone would've shutted the f up
Am telling you korea is not okay.. 😫
@@imhonestlytrying I don’t understand “ to the fans do they have that so called standards body types” korea is not okay
@@geillabroffenz5845 huh?
I hope that man who criticized Sulli’s body feels ashamed for the rest of his life.
I hope he feels guilty, everyday, for the rest of his life.
I hope his teeth goes crazy till it pierce his own gums and bleed till he is anemic and thin like the standard he wanted people to be. Like just lay there and be a stone or something
@@mohdrahimi6374 okay I hate him, but I think that's too aggressive. Don't jump right at them- silently stab them in the back
When is Sulli's next comeback?
we love crunchy queen gowon shes passed away😭
"Those are my standarts" Sorry man but us women are not an object and we're nobodys standart. Period.
I wish Amber would say this to the guy, "Did you check yourself in the mirror before you left the house? From MY standard, you look like a rotten apple"..
sorry but i had to say this, that man aren't even good looking and he had the audacity- like??
I doubt nobody would even want to be his standard.
I hate that when a guy commenting about my appearance, i mean my life is not to be presented to him lmao
And he's too ugly to comment such thing (if we're talking visually here)
It's so silly if a singer, like Ailee...I mean, goddammit, can Korean just enjoy her amazing voice and not only judging her looks? She's not even overweight, she's beautiful, and she has the voice that's not so common for most Korean idol
Every time I listen to Ailee's songs I get goose bumps, she sings like a goddess, Korea is blessed because of Ailee and Hwasa and Hyolyn and Eunji, ... this list never ends
Sadly KNetz are the worst fans in the world... If they don't like you they will try to destroy you and your career...
clearly that's not the case in SK... it's sad but true... we hate to admit. having a great talent or skill here is good but if you meet these so called "standards", then you're in another level... you have to understand, the competition here is crazy that's why more and more people are listening to Jessi Hwasa CL among the few
Ikr! Her voice is so different from most of the female idols and very attractive to listen. I would love to listen her.
Thank goodness, she joined the l1ve, and she is doing great!
6:00 Look at sullis beautiful smile after amber defended her 😭❤️Rest in peace, angel, you will be missed.
wow so she died. I pay my respects. Even on a yt video.
Omg😨 poor girl... RIP🙏🏻
This is so sad. And the way the male Kpop idols aren't allowed to date & have someone in their lives is heartbreaking.
“If I don’t fit in this generation’s standard of beauty, then I will have to become a different standard.” - Hwasa, the IT girl of korea. Every commercial she appears in, the product gets sold out - from instant noodles, down to a comb
My favourite part was when she realised who tf she was and that she is beautiful and confident
@@Mondscheinstaub Be careful not to thin-shame these other girls though, they probably can't help it and are getting pressure from their companies and from the public... Also if they grew up with these standards of beauty maybe they are stuck with them and can't even imagine their bodies being healthier? Speaking as a survivor of an eating disorder, it's not their fault... The whole industry is to blame, and as fans we are all a part of it.
@@Mondscheinstaub Just re-read your comment, my honest mistake, I had read "sickly thin girls" instead of "sticky thin girls". Sorry about the confusion! Have a nice day :)
@@Mondscheinstaub I agree whole-heartedly!
Hwasa still stands her ground after constantly bullying and weight shaming in korea, with millions of eyes and scrutiny on her. She handles all that pressure with a middle finger and it amazes me.
Can't believe that damn guy told Sulli she should lose weight in her THIN arms. What kind of standards are these
Did you notice how fugly he was, I mean if he's gonna judge others, maybe fix his teeth?
Yeah wat was worse ,he justified his opinion saying that was his standard when commenting about sulli s weight..the arrogance he had..
Standards of the market. The biggest reason companies tend to try to get the palest, skinniest cutest idols they could get idol-ready, is because it helps sell products. Cant claim that a products whitens skin if the girl doesnt have that smooth cream complexion or good skin. It's the same with why girls shave their legs now even though we didn't before. Companies wanted/needed more money. When you need more, you advertise and make a trend. Some trends just stuck. (Not that I hate shaving. Nothing feels better than smooth legs) More like it's weird that we make fun of each other for stuff like that. If you look deep enough into most things we believe, someone out there is profiting from it.
Yeah and imagine if she turned it around on him for his teeth... She'd be crucified
fetish of an skeleton in live
The fact that most of these people who judge idols, they themselves don't conform to these 'beauty standards' , now that's what's ironic. Only one thing to say, 'Judge others when you yourself are perfect!'
ew
@@Hey-jw3dm and what exactly do you mean by that?
@@Hey-jw3dm go away troll
the thing is these people are not idols so with your logic they cant criticize their dancing/singing abilities bcs they re not singers/dancers
@@127bubbles still doesn't grant them the rights to bash people who put in their very best to what they do, almost to the point of exhausting themselves.
Leaving SM and moving back to LA was the best decision Tiffany has done. She took time to slow down, had multiple therapies to work on her mental health, and take care of her body more. Look how she's glowing now. I respect these ladies so much, they've been hammered to be perfect since they were trainees and those thoughts stick to you for a long time. I'm glad that they're able to speak out now, I just wish they wouldn't get hate whenever they do speak but I guess it is a process.
that guy who told sulli to lose weight is honestly just disgusting.
DEADASS
k. anyone who tells anyone to lose weight (unless its for medical reasons) is disgusting tbh
I want to punch his face 😤
him saying that it’s *his standard* disgusts me. like, boo, no one cares about your standards.
Yes what does he want 😤does he want her to have only bones it's so disgusting
Ok everyone now repeat after me “IF ITS NOT MY BODY, ITS NOT MY BUSINESS”
And the Best Comment Award goes to you purple
@@onlyonemitch5049 lmao fax
Facts.
Unless you're a doctor
That's actually great. Tell that to YG and some other stupid company that have made their idols insecure.
Tiffany Young is inspirational. She did not gave, work hard just to deliver her art.. She is the example of "you can never bring down a great talent".
‘you can have your own opinion, but dont let your opinion hurt others’ -Amber
I wish this had more likes than those comments that respond to body shaming with body shaming, they only make the problem bigger.
Remember when a fan asked Hwasa about the best diet and Hwasa answered just eat, Hwasa set an exemple for refusing to conform to their unhealthy and toxic standards they maybe hurt her and still do but she refused to break down and made those who criticized her and hated on her look ridiculous when she became one of the most requested female idols for cfs and her billboards are everywhere in Korea, she's shaking their clappy beauty standards that's an exemple of a strong woman
Min Lilia this is why I Love her 😔
@@ifyourenamjoonreadingthisi619 me too, she's my love
I LoVE U And HWASA
@@felixsbutter4141 uwu love u too
Min Lilia UWU ☺️ thank u
"you're too fat" starves self and loses weight "you're too skinny" eats a little and gains some weight "you'r too fat" ok wtf do you want them to do now???
Koreans need to change their beauty standards if they do they won't get depression easily and their suicide rate is gonna go way down just saying though nothing personal
Ubi Theotokos my dude, it’s your opinion, SAY IT LOUD AND CLEAR!! I totally agree with you - these beautiful and talented women are pressured by society’s standards when we should be focusing on their talent. Shame, really ;(
To not have a damn body I’m guessing
Ladies and Gentlemen, my family.
I guess the cultural idea of beauty is, beauty is pain. But hurting yourself to please others is something that shouldn't be done. They should take care of themselves and not feel pressured to please others.
I'm so happy when I see idols like Amber standing up for herself and others, because it's so hard to do so in this industry and most of the time idols are forced to bite their tounges and keep smiling.
Ailee, Tiffany, Sulli, etc deserves so much more then what they got
Hwasa doesn't even have a "heavier figure". Her waist is snatched. She weighs maybe 50 kg at most. She has naturally wider hips and thicker thighs than most korean women, and some morons see her as "fat" because of this. It's ridiculous, and the fact that she's remained strong despite the hate through the years to end up where she is today is truly inspiring. A lot of women (myself included) would absolutely die for a body like hers. Edit: I can already see people are jumping on this comment to give their opinion on her weight. You realize that's doing exactly what I'm talking about? Just in a more shady and low-key way. Like you completely missed the point of my comment and this video. Ridiculous. It's kinda just a less extreme and more petty example of what she's dealt with her entire career. Good thing she stays unbothered and successful ❤️
Definitely not 50 kg To have thighs that size at 50 kg her waist would have to be way smaller Edit: this comment was probably kind of out of place sorry :) I was kinda thinking she was taller, so she probably may be 50 kg, anyway she looks great. Sorry this came across as bad!
I agree, I would also die for a body like Hwasa's
I have wider hips too
50kg is a healthy weight if consider the high and structure. Not because if you weights like that you're unhealthy
she’s literally hot , like wow
Tiffany is SO brave for not only encouraging but saying she goes to therapy! It NEEDS to be a more casual and accepted thing. K-pop companies should have therapists available for their artists to talk to annonomausly
Especially SM...
@@minatozakimiru6779 all the companies are bad, dont be fooled.
I don’t know if I’m correct, but I read or heard that BH and JYP have therapists.
@@keuzl No doubt, it's just that SM Ent seems to have lots of suicide cases
@@minatozakimiru6779 yeah that's unfortunately true
I WILL NEVER STOP SAYING HOW I LOVE HWASA. She's one of the few people that I respect the most. Just like what she said "To you the standard of life is yourself, to me the standard of life is myself" Let no one dictates how you should live, what you should look, or how you should act.
I can't tell you how refreshing it is to hear someone I used to highly respect in Kpop say 'look after your mental health'. Thank you Tiffany.!
It's sad Sunmi had to even remind everyone she is a human too with human feelings T.T
gglife Sone I know. People think they are gods or something. They are human and deserve to be treated as such
I've always thought she was stunning....ppl are trippin.
Can't agree more when she said we're all the same just people with different occupation. Seriously these people provide entertainment. Without them we'll be bored as fk. So if you don't like someone just skip and don't listen or watch very simple. People just can't help themself because they are miserable losers they want to drag other's down with them. >< Tsk
She thicc and I’m a dam twig
The guy who told Sulli that she should lose weight in her already thin arms can't even @ nobody. This boi's teeth went ↗➡↘⬇↙⬅↖↔⤴↕⤵⬆
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
OH MY GOD YES HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LMAAAOOOOOO DRAG HIM DOWN SIS or BRO IDK
😂🤣😃😄😅😆🤓☻😺😸😹
Lol, he better not let us find him or we gonna smack him down till the deepest part of earth
I love how Amber defended Sulli .
"I worked so hard and yet I'm still not good enough" 💔💔💔
That's the saddest thing ever the trainee has to bear
"I get that you have your own opinion, but you can't hurt others with your opinion" well said Amber. These women are heroes and should be remembered with love, not hate or judgment for withstanding these cruel expectations
Amber probably knew how fragile Sulli was. That man is a murderer
@@Joee003 Even if you are not fragile, the guy's comment was stupid and the show was humiliating, why are they allowing that?
@@alienorlazarus9972 Korean culture is sick on that regard... Anorexia is socially accepted and valorized
@@Joee003 Korea as a Capitalistic promoter is horrible in every way...They live in a country where everybody is ostracised if he/she differs from the rest
It's crazy how Hwasa is considered "a heavier figure". I mean, she's beautiful and have an amazing body, but she's in no way someone who I'd say it's "a heavier figure", she's curvier than most kpop idols, but she's really skinny. It's insane how weight is so taken into consideration for kpop idols, mainly girls.
@@gem3275 oh? what have she said/done?
@@gem3275 yea and ur embarrassingly stupid 🙌
@@gem3275 no she isn't,she was uneducated and that's different from being a racist,if you're a black person and can't except her apology then don't watch her video's and leave her alone,bcs you hate her right,then ignore her spreading hate is for no one allowed
She looks perfect to me, I’d kill to have her body. The people who criticise her have no right or any logic to their claims. They’re delusional and they’re feeding an unrealistic and deluded “beauty” standard.
@@sabrinjama4113 bruh she still said those words though, c’mon even 10 year olds have been educated better then that 💀
I don’t get how people have the audacity to cal Hwasa ugly, when she is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen. I have soo much respect for her, and her beauty it so captivating .
I completely agree! After I became army myself, I started checking out girl groups and I couldn’t get into any of them until Hwasa and Mamamoo. She is my all time favorite female artist. She’s beautiful inside out.
I'm actually so scared for Gahyeon of Dreamcatcher. She has received multiple hate comments about her body that she told her members she'll work out and go on a diet; when they told her she does not need to do that because she looks perfectly, she insists and said she's not satisfied. It's just so scary what all of these 'standards' can cause someone to destroy themselves. I hope it breaks sooner.
I've caught this as well. I like that the other members keep telling her that she doesn't have to or to do so healthily so hopefully that means she has a good support system around her or people who are looking out for her.
Tiffany - The Veteran OG, she been through and seen it all yet came out alive & is now teaching others how to get through it Hwasa - The one still fighting but from within to change the industry one idol at a time. Ailee - Proof being the most talented in the world wont stop people from trying to put you down based on looks. Amber - Victim of circumstance and walked away with too many battle scars on her heart.
honestly though, this just makes me bawl out...
I hope all these queens stay strong cos no matter what we’re here for them. There will be haters but there are more people who loves them and I really hope they remember somewhere out here we really love them although they might not see it 😢💕
Sunmi - victim of jealousy, ppl hated how she had such a high metabolism and did everything they could to bring her down, like calling her ugly. But she stands as a great soloist and was very loyal to wonder girls till the very end.
And parkbom destroyed by corrupted government spreading fakenews about her being drug addict and plastic monster
armyjams but Ailee is sexy while cute at the same time
Yo if Hwasa, Ailee, Hyolyn and CL team up, SK's close-minded public is done.
Duuuuuuude!! That would be a bombass group/song collab! Omg. We need fans to suggest this to them all. This needs to happen, lol. For real
Holy shit what a power team. That would be the death of me
It is beyond sad that they are fat-shamed when they are already too skinny. Hwasa, Hyolyn, are under 50 Kg, Ailee is barely over 50. I think Ailee should come back to the US just like Tyfanny and try to start a career here. It is just beyond sad that she is fat-shamed when he is in a healthy weight. They are amazing singers and that is what counts. I agree I would like to see them have a collaboration in at least a song. I'm gonna say though I like Hyolyn and Ailee more, they are two of my favorite Korean singers their voices are just mesmerizing.
hell yesss
I wanted to write the exact same names 😅 their bodys are 🔥🔥🔥 ..and the fact that I’m not into girlgroups, but i love mamamoo and the other three are the only women i listen to. Damn good singers, and amazing personalities. I also loved sulli for who she was. This just shows how different we think about beauty standarts and mindsets
I didn't know Tiffany until recently but I am glad she is doing better. The way idols in general (C, K and J) are treated by the public as well as their agencies is scary AF. The public either showers them with too much love (scary too) or there is this incredible toxic hatred that is heaped on them.
Looking at this make me appreciate my country more in Nigeria we believe everyone is beautiful, fat,thin,short, tall we just don't care i love my country😊😊😊
Also in India...I am glad we don't have any toxic beauty standards.
@@thefrustratedneetaspirant7777 Yeah
@@thefrustratedneetaspirant7777 yes we do. But not that much. The real problem is the aunties which are like netizens
@@thefrustratedneetaspirant7777 lol u know that's not true
@@thefrustratedneetaspirant7777 There are definitely beauty standards. But they do not get in the way of jobs or talent. Like we have singers and dancers who do not fit the criteria. Film industry definitely has.
"you need to be thin". when they became thin, "oh you are too thin". WTH people
Yeah its the same with my hk family. Being a girl whos supposed to be the older cousin, even tho im not asian standard of chubby and fit well within "normal" size, they actually told me im too muscular/toned because i wrestle and dance
Ikr. At some parts, I get called thin and fat at the same time (I'm 43 kg and 156 cm tho)
They're not even close to being fat!!
Basically Britney's "Piece of me" about the media/paparazzi - "she's too big now she's too thin."
@@kpopsloth sorry to ask but where are you from? Just curious 😅
I love to see Amber being so fearless to defend Sulli
❤❤❤❤❤
I want someone like her in my life.
@@prawsolazy9776 i hope you will find him/het soon
Yeah that guy with his standard.. So ugly!
@@prawsolazy9776 be that someone
I'm crying. F(x) has been my ulti-group. They are the one who introduced me to KPop. I really love the girls. I was so young back then, I could have at least defended them, especially Sulli from the antis. F(x) will always hold a place in my heart.
I love Hwasa, she’s the definition of a strong, hot, empowered woman!
"Was that the influence of Beyonce, Beyonce thighs?" The guy who said that to Hwasa is really rude, I hope his thighs shrivel up so bad, he wishes he had Beyonce thighs.
lmaooooooo
Geraldine T I thought the same thing. What an asshole. In his mind loving Beyoncé relates to being chubby. Wtf?
I really wanna feel like punching him in the face but if he meant it as a joke, then K
@@kdjoshi726 tbh even as a joke thats so dumb 🤦♀️
@@sugastonguetechnologymakes2650 More like it crossed certain limits 🙃
Imagine being a solid 3 and judging a 10 for being "fat" 😂 that dude needs a mirror in his house.
That guy wasn't 3... he's teeth were going in 3 directions.. he's -3😂
@@Sparkling_Sunflower 🤣
It's just overall unnecessary to comment on other people's appearance, no matter what you look like.
@@Sparkling_Sunflower Omg I-
@@chellumi 😂😂
This is heartbreaking. Seeing idols as dolls basically, is one of the most hurtful things you could do to someone.
Hwasa had it in herself to never give up since she believed in herself and was confident abt herself, that's the reason why she was able to bloom admist all those people trying to bring her down.... I love her so much ❤️
Hwasa : "if I'm not that type of beauty standards, then I will make my own standard"
Hwasa is a queen!!!!
I'll remember this
👑
U go girl. Thats the attitude and not Sorry. Love Hwasa and Jessi for loving themselves and standing up to bullies. It is NOBODY'S BUSINESS.
honestlllyyyyyyyyyyy that quote is my go to quote for a confidence boost...she's a QUEEN
It hurts so much when that idiot said Sulli had to lose weight and the first thing she answered was "I plan to lose weight", she had to say that even though she was probably so hurt, I am glad Amber defended her.
and that idiot looked like potato himself
I was like yasss Amber. Teach him something.
I hope that idiot is thinking about how nasty he was saying those things to sulli
Literally he was like that's my standard, who tf cares what YOU want Sulli to look like?? Go and date a mannequin then if unrealistic standards are your thing
Someone in the comments mentioned that guy looked like a toenail face 😂
I really like Hwasa tbh, she is so confident and she knows where to stand. Just like Jessie also. They are great ppl.
5:54 Can I break his visibly unaligned teeth through the screen?! Like giving her pressure and hate comments on social media was not enough that they did the same on reality shows. I will never forgive the people who made sulli to end her life.
alot of people feel this way
It's not even funny. The man telling Sulli to lose weight is nowhere near attractive. He is a fan. She is the star. The audacity!!
If I were a star and rich, I maybe would have hired someone to bring that guy's knee caps up to m.y. standard...
He said that it’s his standard. When he looks like a rotted potato. Standard my foot😂
He said it's "his standard". Like i can say I'd like her having bigger eyes or short hair, but is that a mean comment too?
if he has to say something negative about her, he is not her fan and she doesnt have to abide by his standards. He should just look elsewhere, there might be a girl somewhere in the world who would die to be 5'2" and be 75lbs, but she won't be as beautiful as she should be at a good weight for her body.
But even if he was a star himself, the most handsome person on the planet and all, he'd still have no right to say that, I hate people like him so much
There’s no winning for girl idols. It’s always “fat and ugly” “skinny, awkward and not sexy” “so ugly” “She’s only an idol coz she’s pretty no talent” Like damn, give these women a break.
there is no wining for girls in generaly its sad like the girl in my profile has an amazing personality and is a very pretty while the one she dated cheated on her when looks way uglier and was the one saying he wont cheat on her ( since her other ex jake paul cheated too) either way thats why feminism exists
Tiffany is such an amazing person 🥺🥺
Hwasa made me confident, cause I have the same figure as her. She really is a symbol of pride for women. I stan the right queen.
I really liked that you included sunni and thin shaming too, its often overlooked
I really hate slim shaming. People say fat shaming is bad, but that does NOT mean slim shaming is ok.
Shaming anyone for the way their body looks is gross because they have no control over that
Yeah, same goes to Lisa and Rose, Wendy was fatshamed and thinshamed...
@miko yah cause thin people absolutely don't get insulted, shit on or insecure 🤙 and you do realize that models are thin because what they wear is a sample size so they're going to want to sped less fabric possible on it
miko I have a cousin who is just naturally very skinny and her family is always telling her “your so skinny you are just gonna fly away some day hahaha” “your so skinny does your mom even feed you hahaha” she doesn’t have the ass everyone wants so she gets shamed for that by kids at school and she is very insecure about all this because there is nothing she can do about it because of her wicked fast metabolism so yes skinny people do get body shamed and insecure just because you don’t see it happen often doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist
The fact that that bombshell Hwasa is being called "heavier" says lots. She's perfectly healthy and has a beautiful, harmonious body.
She's the Asian Beyonce
She’s so beautiful. I can’t believe they hate on her perfect body 😭.
I don't understand she is very beautiful.
true, hwasa has a healthy and curvy body and I love it
Yeah, i thought hwasa is so sexy
Imagine random people on the internet having a problem with you having totally normal weight and body proportions... 💀 Like damn, wish people would just leave these ladies alone 😔
wish? wishes dont come true. you make them come true
One ex sm rookies Herin talked open about this, also the sexualization and other things like that, happy that now she is free of it
Literally Ailee and Tiffany weren’t “chubby” or “fat”, you can see it in the fan and, their bone structure is different than the ideal standard. A wider expansive ribcage and wider shoulders or hips can sometimes make the body seem slightly rectangular, they were both perfectly normal. It just makes me mad to see how much they suffered for something in their biology, something normal.
Most aquarius,gemini,taurus women have rectangular shaped,masculinish or if you want be a little feminive then curvy body bone structure
its so sad because in other countries they'd be considered thin or normal at that size.
It’s why Tiffany is doing so well in the US now. Not only is she allowed creative independence, but she is free to do whatever she wants with her body. She’s got curves that are heavily sought after, especially in Western countries. And now she’s embracing all of that. She couldn’t be any better, in terms of physical (and I’m only assuming mental) health. I’m glad she’s gotten help and is happy right now.
@@Lena-zn4re Tiffany left Korea because the neitzens and many South Koreans never got over the Japanese Sun flag incident. She had enough.
i know right? they are just being healthy and people are coming for them
The guy who dissed sulli has to fix both his face and personality.
I would love to fix his face with my fist
Dw i'll fix his face for him 👊 👊
And teeth if possible
Ikr. Can't come talking about someone else's appearance wen he's not even fair to look upon
if i found out his @ i would love to give him some lessons and would make him look at the mirror how ugly he is
I weigh 115 pounds as a fifteen year old girl, and I still am told that I hardly eat. I’m not trying to play the victim but it’s like I was being skinny shamed if that’s a thing? American and Korean beauty standards are so alike and so different.
I agree. I've heard a lot of people say that they would hate clothing shopping in Korea because all of the sizes are too tiny, but in my experience, it's frustrating for skinny people to buy clothes too because everything is loose and baggy.
Skinny shaming is as bad as fat shaming. Women can be whatever tf they want. I am also a "fat" person i always wanted to lose weight to get a perfect shaped body but hell no, after seeing how society is i wanna accept my body as it is.
white people want to black black people want to be white. Soo fanny
Iam underweight (have eating disorder in the past) and i got skinnyshamed a lot. At one point my parents even yelled at me to eat because they ashamed to go out with me. When I was a kid, I look like 'drug addict' but when I got older, everyone is praising me. But skinny shame definitely exist and rampant. Because 'skinny' is seen as desirable, skinny shaming arent taken seriously.
The KBS, netizen hate comments, and misogyny are all ever presents evils that women in Kpop are facing. It is definitely the DARK UNDERSIDE OF KPOP.
i hope Ailee can somehow be famous around the US... the perception of beauty in the US is much more diverse in my opinion compared to SK...
She is trying to make it in the states now so hopefully 🙏
D joy .Not on your opinion is true.people in south korea always think that they live in a barbie world.
Maybe, but america doesnt have a diverse amount of asian artists. I think they are kinda... Racist with asian artists. Not only singers but also actors.
The problem is, most Koreans aren’t even close to reaching their own beauty standards that they force idols to have. Unless they themselves have achieved those standards, I don’t think they should get to decide how idols should look like. And here’s the thing, they haven’t. The country isn’t filled with beautiful or perfect people, they’re regular like everyone else on the planet.
US is more diverse in terms of body shapes but do you know any Asian American singer who is mainstream popular? Or actor? Americans are still not open to Asians. Even BTS is still not fully embraced there.
5:54 "thats my standard" *sTanDaRd mY aSs, I almost choked bruh...go and buy urself a mirror lmao*
Madame Adia I hope now he is blaming himself
I watched that episode of Hello Counselor, since it was fx. The issue that time is this girl complaining about how her brother (the jerk guy in the vid) kept on telling her that she's too fat. But her height is around the same height or taller than Sulli, and is only freaking 47kg! When I watched it, if I can only slap that guy's face from the screen, I would do it. Then I was really impressed on how composed Amber and Sulli was after that guy body shamed Sulli. But yeah.. Amber and the rest of f(x) together with the hosts and the audience made a deal with the jerk that if the girl received more than hundred votes from them he will stop calling her fat, and would zip his mouth. And the jerk is over confident that her sister won't even get 50 votes. Then the hosts said "We'll see." Then the vote came out and it has an almost perfect vote. But yeah, Amber almost punched the guy if she's not professional. Seriously, Korean mindset is so fucked uo and so obsessed with their standard of being beautiful. Their foods and cultural heritage are beautiful, but their mindsets are really to another level. I'm not generalising, but most of them has that. I think it comes from too much insecurity and jealousy.
He deserves such a big fat punch in the face. Or maybe 2 or 3 or 1000
@@krystalemeraldguanco1484 ikr...i watched that ep long time ago too....that man really too much.
@@buymeginasap1614i hope too!
This mizuho girl is very strong, she truly doesn't give up, very sad she didn't pass😭😭😱😱
Tiffany Young Hwan🔥🔥
why is ailee wasting time in korea she can be successful in america.
@SHINeexokpop she just needs to try again
Because people in america are racist. But i mean not all of them are but you know- like how Bts performed in the BBMAS but was insulted with racist remarks and was told to to back to korea.
@@hy2484 i didn't hear about that.
@@DemonSwrd not by celebrities but the locals
She will this year
Glad that Amber had defensed her member and didn't just become a yes man to their fan.
I was searching for this comment
Seriously I would have stood up and told that guy to "shut the fu🤬k up, who the fu🤬k is he to say that to Sulli! He was no prize to look at!"
@@teresawasenius2844 if I was there I could have bashed his head on the floor without any remorse.
He was not their fan. The clip is from a show called Hello Counselor and the sister was on the show with a concern that her brother that guy who told sulli to lose weight is keep telling her to lose weight. The shocking thing is his sister is also skinny. Nonetheless it‘s still disgusting that he thinks he can tell someone to lose weight just because it‘s not his beauty standard. I was shocked when I watched that episode of the show.
And crystal just did fight agains him straight on the face "gain some weight"
Hwasa is really my inspiration literally this woman give more spirit than my loved ones I swear
I love that they're speaking UP!
Hwasa has a great figure. She’s basically body goals. She breaking the korean standards for color and body shape
ace 7806 honestly like we arent built the same! imagine making fun of someones natural pear shaped body...
Trueeee
@@Butterball2829 Ikr it's terrible. These people who comment such rubbish really gotta reflect on their words. Stop saying such nonsense just to make yourself feel good. It's ridiculous. Hurting someone for your own good is the last thing you want to do.
I'd give up my niacinamide serum for a yr, in exchange for her body! Like seriously! She'd be on a pedestal, and get so much affection here in the states. But i know, our girl hwasa has to stay in Korea and keep creating change in the industry, and how viewers feel entitled to speak horrifically humans being
Color? Lee Hyori and Hyolyn did that LONG ago?
Imagine only liking and supporting someone just for their body and then body shaming them. Glad I can't relate 🤢 EDIT: don't spread your negativity, if you have shit to say that disregards the hard work of *ALL* kpop groups, then say it somewhere else, not here. THANKS FOR ALL THE LIKES 🤧😗💀
@@milkycocoa3162 Nah
I Stan too many Kpop groups. Uwu health matters
I Stan too many Kpop groups. Uwu I’d rather have a chubby healthy and happy idol than an idol who’s suffering and stick thin due to starvation
L M do you think male idols have it harder then female idols ?
@Spring_ Wind BTS, EXO, and BigBang are great in their own ways. All the groups I stan, I consider them kings or queens. So let's not be toxic and say one is better than other especially underneath my comment. Please and thank you ❤👌🏽
God those standards are sickening and the fact that they do it to kids is damn child abuse.. they take these trauma complexes into adulthood in most cases. Not everyone is strong enough to endure or overcome.. I hope these things change sooner than later. It’s just plain cruel, hwasa isnt even heavy she’s curvy.. even if she lost weight she’s still have hips and things 🤦🏽♀️ ridiculous
lots of great singers/artist ended their lives because of hates. I still can't move on from Sulli and Jonghyun passing. 💔😭 since they left this Earth, I started to send private message thru IG to those singers/artist who I knew struggling from depressions. If their company can't protect them, we need to protect them no matter what.
As an American, I think Ailee is gorgeous and visibly thrives when she’s at a healthy weight. Hwasa is STUNNING and actually pretty skinny to me. You can see by her waist size and high energy that she’s actually in really good shape. Both Ailee and Hwasa can sing to the gods. Lisa and Rosé are skinny legends who are incredibly beautiful and talented dancers that are perfect just the way they are. They are healthy and are also in great shape which you can easily see by their performance level. Can we stop paying attention to appearance and just appreciate the talent they are serving us?
I love Lisa and rose but they aren’t healthy I’m sorry, they are BMI 16, that’s pretty severely underweight.
I love Lisa and Rose as well but I'm sorry to say that they are SEVERELY underweight. 😔
@@uwu-fm2kj I see why Lisa, who is a dancer and also looks the fidgety-ever-active type, would be skinny both by conscious choice and moving a lot. As a dancer, it pays off to be able to move your body as you want. Rosé, though... She's a singer. Then again, she doesn't look ill. It's sad to be able to count Lisa's ribs, though.
@@isam1542 take this with a grain of salt since its obviously anecdotal but, as someone who comes from a 'naturaly' skinny family full of athletes both Lisa and rose despite they're active lifestyle are not at the weight they are naturally. I could see Lisa and Rose being bmi 17 with their lifestyles but not 16. My guess is that YG is still demanding a very particular aesthetic of them. I really hope im wrong and they're just fine but well.. we know the Kpop industry
@@uwu-fm2kj You see, as the comment pointed out, if we stopped paying attention to other people's body, even if it's OuT oF cOnCeRn, only then would people feel free to weight however they want. For all you know they're naturally skinny, prefer to be skinny, or maybe they are pressured to, but you're still in no place to dictate how one should weight. Sunmi is a great example of that. Now repeat after me, "not my body, not my business".
you should've included RedVelvet, when people said everyone except Seulgi wasn't taking care of their body. especially Wendy people fat shamed her but when she finally lost weight they thin shamed her? that is so messed up
Some people just live off of hurting others. They are never satisfied. But so what anyways. 😒😔
Nojamsforyou wb irene? Her weight honestly looks the same since debut. Yeri, Joy and Wendy however received so much bs.
Did they speak about it?
@@layloo5244 agreed irene's weight was always the same since her debut but people just had to find something to talk shit about
It’s horrible but the reality is all female idols are shamed. If it was up to me I would have included every female idol ever. What they were putting in this video were idols who speak about it.
I love Hwasa so much. I pull so much inspiration from her. I'm determined to reach my goals and she doesn't know it but she inspires me & motivates me so much. To any others who have goals that sometimes seem unattainable, stay determined... when you fall, dust yourself off & get right back up again... you got this💜
Ailee needs to have a career in the US She is soooo talented and has the looks. Different shapes are more acceptable in North America.
How can a guy with a face like THAT even fix his mouth to criticize someone about their looks with a camera on him! All of these beautiful girls are criticized by people who look WORSE than them! Real life cases of misery loves company.
The worst part was when he said it is his standard, like that's a reasonable explanation to justify his piece of shit opinion. This is making me sick.
"it's my standard" Me: time for you to get a makeover then chico, you're no where near conforming to your own goals
And the person he called out specifically took her life or should I say murdered by bullies like him. They all should rot.
the crowd too was like "that's not it fam"
Omg and the crowd looked so disgusted at him! The two girl’s faces in the crowd were like “umm...hello? Have you seen yourself??”
People: you need to get thin Someone: *is actually thin* People: oh no you are too skinny and need to gain weight WTF DO WANT FROM ME!?
Thats the sad truth of this society
It's almost like it actually has nothing to do with weight, and more about controlling women's bodies for no reason
Literally 😑
This is what I hate so much about society like if your gonna tell someone to change their body shape but won’t be satisfied either way then DON’T bother at all. Some people really do be acting like gaining/losing weight is something that is easy to do and that anybody can do it. When you really think about it, it’s like society is dominating you, if they don’t like your body you have no choice but to change it and it’s not just your body, celebs had to change/sacrifice many things because of what the public would think. (in some cases)
Yeah,really it's too much😠😠😤
10:28 Seriously after all the hardwork how can they reject her like that.i feel do bad for her😞😔
I just wish to hug them and say ' I love u and there are lot other people who love, we want u to be happy,just ignore those people who hate u , because we are are here for u.'
Im glad Tiffany left Korea, Im not saying America doesn't have issues with image, but being half Korean, I understand the judgement and pressures of looking perfect in Korea. Its daily my Korean family tells me I need to lose weight or I am not pretty enough, I am still learning how to be mentally strong and not listen to them, but its hard.
Don’t listen to them you are beautiful just the way you are ❤️
You are really beautiful!! don't let ppl get to you or your self esteem
You are so beautiful!!!! Don’t fall into that beauty standard break it ❤️
one thing you can do, is just agree with everything they say. “yeah, i really should lose my weight now.” “yeah i know i’m ugly” throw all those self criticism on their face while eating as much as you want
Hi sister im from india im also fat and there was a time i was worried about my body a lot i was so stressed my parents told me to loose weight but when kpop come in my life i think that im best in my own way even i also do gym but never stressed and it makes me really happy i also suggest u that u r most beautiful in your own way never think that u r fat u r really pretty
It’s always the ugly one to have “high standards”. Atleast she’s resting now. Rip Sulli
I don't think she can rest because she took her life, that's the last thing you want to do and consider you're going to Heaven in paradise because god can't forgive those who take their lives. I'm not what religion they believe in or if they believe in any but taking your life can't make your soul rest, you'll most likely be stuck to cross over
Awesome Adrian God is fake
@@azzwipe8672 nope he's not
@onee- chan we wont know until we die them our answers will be solved
@onee- chan I'm not super religious but my family is, and I'm pretty sure it says that taking your own life is a guaranteed ticket straight down, I think God does understand what humans go through, after he sent his son to learn the extent of human emotions and cruelty, but I also feel like he would rather you come to him for your problems, rather than choosing to take your own life, and I'm pretty sure that isn't something she did however I obviously dont know, but this is the way I interpret it, I'm open to disagreements!
Knowing that Sulli already died, watching that audience say such an insult to Sulli feels so terrible.
well i hope videos like this are bringing awareness to how we are treated in this world.
The worst part is that these girls aren't fat, nor curvy nor thick. They are skinny according to westen standards.. and also, isn't it creepy that Asian ideal beauty is girlish child-like looking bodies? Creeps me the hell out
So perverted really
No different than the fashion industry. If you want to make it, you gotta be size Double Zero. They're obsessed with killing woman's true femeninity and health.
Ikr, like Hwasa--i don't get it..
Not all asian ideal beauty is like that, i think u meant japan, korea and china
You should fix the comment bc this statement just have the same energy as if im saying all western beauty standard want are big butt, b**b, and lip. Plus looking older than they're supposed too? I've have seen a lot of underage kids that looks like a mother of three would do. That creeps me out✨
That guy who commented on Sulli’s arms.... I would literally fight him if I saw him today...
i would knock his teeth out, that would be a minor improvement but not much
Someone who sit beside him should punch him to his senses. 👊👊👊 cuz he is literally blabbering non sense.
Me too
Je clearly doesn't know what a healthy and normal body looks like.
Same
I'm so happy that some of these ladies could get out of that toxic industry or at least perform and be in control of their bodies. It's so scary and I fear for the future generations, I fear for them because if things don't change, parents, families and friends would lose someone dear to them because of this industry.
All these amazing, talented and beautiful ladies... I really don't understand how anyone could hate on them. Why? They are more than enough. This really needs to be changed, so much toxicity... It's heartbreaking
"I don't make music for eyes, I make music for ears"- Adele Ppl, who like these idols because of their pleasant body only, should be technically referred as "Toxic fans". Music is the freedom so the singer's choice. 3:30 hit me damn hard! I can't stand by the irony of those f**ktards who always criticize their hardwork. Give them some time yo dislikers!!
Yeah, I barely watch any of the videos of Kpop. I listen to it because I like the music, and the few times I do watch the video it's because I love the choreography and their chemistry. It's got nothing to do with their bodies.
Kpop artists are not specifically portrayed as only musicians. They were made to portray perfection in the young generations eyes. Regardless of how companies represent them as, it's mainly the fans and people in Korea that needs to set their standards in a realistic level. Yes it's their job to act a way and look a way, but their human too and before being portrayed as an idol they should be portrayed as human first.
Not only the company but Also the people treat Idols like products. This industry must fall. its so bad and hurtful for fucks sake.
Yoshita Singh Raghuvanshi Yeah I really want to punch the faces of these Possessive Toxic Fans if only if I know them....
Tbh I think this idol culture is toxic. What they do is basically just putting a barbie doll in front of the public. And the public buy it, its better nowadays but its hard for them to express themselves musically, many of them learned how to sing how to dance how to look but not how to compose music, I'm sorry to say but a lot of famous group now are only making so called "fast food music" it's like after the promotion over prob won't go back to listen the song. Don't come after me but sometimes some people just doesn't have the musical talent to carry their career on without the company supporting them. And also the tbh the celebrities also treats their fans like they are their girlfriend which later on their career came crashing down after dating scandals and etc. But people who are into western music culture likes the song for the song itself. There's a lot who actually broke the law(drug issues, sexual harassment cases etc) are still accepted by the public as long as the music is good. I wish for a good environment somewhere between these 2
tiffany is such a stunning and radiant human being, i absolutely adore her.
❤️❤️
She really is... But can you tell me where she is from I’ve never heard about her before
@@datkidsocute7790 Tiffany is a member of Girls' Generation (SNSD) but she left SM Ent. already and currently she's active as a solo singer in America with stage name "Tiffany Young". Her personality and talent is amazing, i also really love her songs 💖
Yeah
She’s an angel 🥺
I feel sorry for Ailee. We need to scrap 'beauty standards'
When i was in the deep of my depresion i was eating nothing. I was only eating some fruits for the day and that was it. And at those times since i wasnt eating anything i always had headache and couldnt even get out of bed since i had no energy. I really cant believe how they can dance, like you need something to eat to gain energy and you are eating nothing yet you are still dancing for hours. Im not blaming idols the industry itself needs a f5. I really feel bad for idols