Why π^π^π^π could be an integer (for all we know!).

2021 ж. 26 Ақп.
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  • “We set pi equal to 3” Engineers: *applause*

    @boysenbeary@boysenbeary3 жыл бұрын
    • What an original joke

      @user_2793@user_27933 жыл бұрын
    • As an enginer I feel insulted. I use 355/113

      @eatpant1412@eatpant14123 жыл бұрын
    • pi is exactly 3, because the bible says so: 1 Kings 7,23

      @petermarksteiner7754@petermarksteiner77543 жыл бұрын
    • Pi is 3.14. I don't need more accuracy than that.

      @chrismanuel9768@chrismanuel97683 жыл бұрын
    • Pi is 3+1 for a bit of room.

      @nocturnhabeo@nocturnhabeo3 жыл бұрын
  • The year is 3021. Computing power has finally advanced to the point that we can confirm that pi to the power of pi to the power of pi to the power of pi is not in fact an integer. The Intergalactic Society of Mathematics is hosting a party to celebrate. Suddenly, someone speaks up from the back of the room. "But what about pi to the power of pi to the power of pi to the power of pi _to the power of pi_ ? Is that an integer?" The room falls silent.

    @eccentriastes6273@eccentriastes62733 жыл бұрын
    • Wait another 1000 years of course

      @palashverma3470@palashverma34703 жыл бұрын
    • And this sir is why you are not invited to such a party!

      @mickelodiansurname9578@mickelodiansurname95783 жыл бұрын
    • @@palashverma3470 pi^pi^pi^pi^pi far away bigger than pi^pi^pi^pi it has 10^10^18 digit "10 followed by billion billion zero" zeros linearly, wait 10^10^18 year, second or blanck time, won't make a difference

      @mixnewton5157@mixnewton51573 жыл бұрын
    • I doubt that π^^5 ϵ *Z*

      @JamesDavy2009@JamesDavy20093 жыл бұрын
    • Actually, if pi^pi^pi^pi is an integer, then pi^pi^pi^pi^pi is pi to an integer power, which cannot be an integer. (cause pi is transcendental)

      @ribozyme2899@ribozyme28993 жыл бұрын
  • 6:48 I love how Matt just casually referred to the two people as Emma and Timothy like if they were close friends

    @4thalt@4thalt Жыл бұрын
    • Well Emma did feature in his "calculating pi by hand" video so they do know each other

      @gwynjudd@gwynjuddАй бұрын
  • 2:00 - calling them "irrationals" is indirect, since π or e are irrationals as well. Numbers like √2 are algebraic, an antonym to transcendental.

    @JeremyRight-zi4yp@JeremyRight-zi4yp8 ай бұрын
    • For what it's worth, integers are also rational

      @enricocarrara8672@enricocarrara8672Ай бұрын
    • Technically, the algebraic numbers include some imaginary numbers too, since the criterion is simply being a root of a polynomial with rational coefficients

      @kylewood4001@kylewood400120 күн бұрын
    • Look up why pi is transcendental ,because it is

      @terrariariley1643@terrariariley164317 күн бұрын
  • This reminds me of 8 year old me trying to repeatedly multiply 9999 to itself in my calculator. I too was limited by the technology of my time.

    @parmparm9341@parmparm93413 жыл бұрын
    • SAME LOL 😂

      @wumbowumbo1688@wumbowumbo16882 жыл бұрын
    • Lmao same

      @retvolution@retvolution2 жыл бұрын
    • Same too

      @asheep7797@asheep7797 Жыл бұрын
    • You can remember more digits than that with "I need a drink, alcoholic of course, after the heavy lectures."

      @ianc8266@ianc8266 Жыл бұрын
    • What I did (although a decade later) was using all 12 digits of the calc by 999.... and then multiplying by itself lol

      @Shreyy17@Shreyy17 Жыл бұрын
  • “Everyone remembers where they were when they noticed that” Ah, yes. This takes me back to two seconds ago.

    @absupinhere@absupinhere3 жыл бұрын
    • It was my only takeaway from this video

      @pXnTilde@pXnTilde3 жыл бұрын
    • So it is klickbate?

      @verrybrainie@verrybrainie3 жыл бұрын
    • And, similarly, "irrationals" are called that because they're not ratios

      @columbus8myhw@columbus8myhw3 жыл бұрын
    • Today, Matt Parker called me a nobody. I don't remember when, nor where, I made the connection between ratios and fractions and "rational".

      @rmsgrey@rmsgrey3 жыл бұрын
    • I can't help but notice in order to understand spanish math you need to study english. In Spanish rational numbers = 'números racionales' but ratio = 'fracción'. You can pretty much see there's no real connection between the two in spanish. Always wondered why they were called 'racionales' and 'irracionales'.

      @MatiasMoreno@MatiasMoreno3 жыл бұрын
  • Great video. Although I expected some kind of argument for why we would expect this number to be an integer. But as I understand it, there is no reason to believe that it is anything in particular. We simply don't know. Although I am inclined to think it is probably not an integer, it is true that you can get integers or rational by operating irrationals and transcendentals in certain ways. But there is always, I think, a good explanation for it, it seems that you have to be deliberate about it. Kind of like when trying to convert rationals into integers, if you multiply randomly, you will fail in even a vast majority of cases, when multiplying by the inverse for instance, you succeed. But of course, I don't know much about it, it is just the impression I got from watching the video. Pretty interesting question.

    @diegog1853@diegog18532 жыл бұрын
    • Tbh im kinda disappointed because the entire point of the video was just "yeah we just cant know"

      @kambuntschki6314@kambuntschki63147 күн бұрын
    • @@kambuntschki6314 Yeah and now that I think about it, it really is a different thing to say: "we don't know what this number is" to say "this number *can* be any type of number". There are numbers that it obviously cannot be, like 0. So it might be the case that it is also impossible for it to be an integer, but we haven't develop that reasoning yet.

      @diegog1853@diegog18537 күн бұрын
  • I remember the moment I realized what the word trigonometry meant..! I started looking at the word "polygon", meaning "several corners". I then thought of what a triangle would be called, "probably Tri-gon". Then it absolutely struck me, "Tri-gono-metry = The measurement of triangles"!

    @sk4lman@sk4lman2 жыл бұрын
    • "several corners" is one way to translate it, but it's understood to mean "several angles" by greek people

      @soupisfornoobs4081@soupisfornoobs40812 жыл бұрын
    • methylgon, ethylgon, propylgon, butylgon, amilgon, isopropylgon, isobutylgon, isoamilgon, sek-butylgon, tert-butylgon, sek-amilgon, tert-amilgon, etc, list goes on

      @spiderjerusalem4009@spiderjerusalem4009 Жыл бұрын
    • Didn't they teach you what it means in school when you started it

      @akale2620@akale262011 ай бұрын
    • ​@@akale2620at my school they didn't teach us the etymology of the word; only that it has to do with triangles and how to use it

      @lunlunnnnn@lunlunnnnn10 ай бұрын
    • ​@@lunlunnnnnagreed. Sadly most schools did this. They just start with example problems and jump into the work. I was decent at math but didn't realize until my 30s that exponents 2(square) and 3(cubed) were called that because they formed that geometric shape out of the base unit.

      @jebadavie@jebadavie10 ай бұрын
  • My math teacher used to say, “if you don’t like natural logarithms just e-raise it. Then you don’t have to deal with it”

    @vermiformappendix@vermiformappendix3 жыл бұрын
    • That totally sounds like a joke a math teacher would tell.

      @troodon1096@troodon10963 жыл бұрын
    • Kinda genius ngl

      @rysea9855@rysea98553 жыл бұрын
    • @@troodon1096 Damnit, apparently, I'm destined to become a math teacher

      @Simon-nx1sc@Simon-nx1sc3 жыл бұрын
    • heh

      @thelivingcube@thelivingcube3 жыл бұрын
    • Haha!

      @math_the_why_behind@math_the_why_behind3 жыл бұрын
  • "We set pi equal to 3” I felt a great disturbance in the force.

    @spankasheep@spankasheep3 жыл бұрын
    • Well, the Bible says that pi equals 3; and the Bible also says that the Bible is never wrong. QED.

      @ThomasSMuhn@ThomasSMuhn3 жыл бұрын
    • How about when Indiana almost legally declared pi is equal to 3.2?

      @efulmer8675@efulmer86753 жыл бұрын
    • @@efulmer8675 'Cause godless heathens they are down there?

      @ThomasSMuhn@ThomasSMuhn3 жыл бұрын
    • @@ThomasSMuhn It was in the late 1800s and the Indiana State Legislature brought in a mathematician to help settle the issue. They settled the issue by throwing out the bill All-0. Still, it is a hilarious collision of math and reality.

      @efulmer8675@efulmer86753 жыл бұрын
    • I'm pretty sure this is only allowed under martial law.

      @DonReba@DonReba3 жыл бұрын
  • It's remarkable how modern mathematics can produce amazingly powerful and accurate results for physics, engineering, computing and essentiatially all fields of applied science, yet remarkly simple statements in number theory, combinatorics, transcendental number theory and other pure math branches are not only unproven but seem to be utterly unpproachable by every mean know to mathematicians today and many see no progress for decades, sometimes more ...

    @EquuleusPictor@EquuleusPictor2 жыл бұрын
    • I think it's because the material world is a bridge itself between solutions. Physical reality serves as an "elegant solution" that solves the identities of all transcendental numbers in one instant. By working with physical reality we get to experience the subtleties we are missing by using this bridgework without knowing all the underlying equations. Oh, did this bridge we made using the bridgework of physical reality twist itself apart in a mind-bending way? We study it and find an underlying equation involving harmonics, and work to contramand that equation as a point of ethics in bridge-building. (And so on.) So to paraphrase Newton and Hawking regarding "standing on shoulders", with physical reality we are standing on unknown shoulders of unknown giants. (And to finish the thought: mathematics is the blind study of the anatomy of those shoulders, in hopes of discovering something about those giants.)

      @hyperbaroque@hyperbaroque2 жыл бұрын
    • what an absolutely stunning comment and quote, I hadnt heard or seen that finished thought before, thank you for sharing@@hyperbaroque

      @joleneonyoutube@joleneonyoutube4 ай бұрын
    • Infinities are infinitely harder to deal with.

      @carlhopkinson@carlhopkinson23 күн бұрын
  • Actually, we can apply number theory to this, in particular, Fermat's Little Theorem. We have methods of calculating the nth digit of pi in binary without having to calculate all the previous digits. In the appropriately chosen modulus, this is all you need to determine if the number is integer or not.

    @JohnSmith-ut5th@JohnSmith-ut5th2 жыл бұрын
    • But we aren’t calculating pi here, we’re calculating pi to a power.

      @stargazer7644@stargazer7644 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@stargazer7644that is still an nth of pi

      @sethkunert6234@sethkunert62343 ай бұрын
    • @@stargazer7644 We are looking after nothing else than: HAS pi something behind the comma or has it not? And for that, we are allowed to use modulus. modulus 1, to be specific. Which makes things drastically easy. And then concerning accuracy: We only need enough accuracy to get the first few (maybe just for satisfaction the first three or so) digits after the comma correctly, all others are just overhead. Hint: The digits will not be zero (or 9) behind the comma. If they were zero (or 9), we first would gather a bit more accuracy. Only if there after a lot more zeros would make their debut, would we need to invest in thoughts about proving anything. But since the digits behind the comma will for sure not be around zero, all other thoughts about proving integer-ness are invalid anyways.

      @WhiteGandalfs@WhiteGandalfs10 күн бұрын
    • @@WhiteGandalfs "HAS pi something behind the comma or has it not?" Do you mean the decimal point? Regardless, the problem is π^π^π^π You need to know the EXACT value of MANY, MANY digits of π to know if the 'last' digit is an integer.

      @fewwiggle@fewwiggle7 күн бұрын
  • Never before have I seen someone have so much fun with a stock studio audience, and I love it so much

    @flan1591@flan15913 жыл бұрын
    • you look sus ngl

      @longpham-sj5sv@longpham-sj5sv3 жыл бұрын
    • @@longpham-sj5sv Now that was the comment I was looking for

      @ScormGaming@ScormGaming3 жыл бұрын
    • When the pretender is mistrustful

      @grahamsayle@grahamsayle3 жыл бұрын
    • Unliked this comment due to the likes beong 456

      @DeadPool-fx3sq@DeadPool-fx3sq3 жыл бұрын
    • Icarly? Sam Puckett?

      @davidmenn8771@davidmenn87713 жыл бұрын
  • "Say what you want about 3, at least we know it exactly. It's equal... to 3." This is what we call high-quality educational content.

    @Xenophilius@Xenophilius2 жыл бұрын
    • I'll gladly take his word for it, but I have never seen a proof

      @tomc.5704@tomc.57042 жыл бұрын
    • to be fair, we have harvard grad students who will argue against this

      @afuzzycreature8387@afuzzycreature83872 жыл бұрын
    • LMAO 🤣

      @rosepinkskyblue@rosepinkskyblue2 жыл бұрын
    • tetris person poggers

      @NerdTheBox@NerdTheBox2 жыл бұрын
    • It's more than we know about 0.1+0.2

      @spl420@spl420 Жыл бұрын
  • This was such a fun video to watch. Definitely one of my favorites from Matt.

    @omaanshkaushal3522@omaanshkaushal3522 Жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for making complicated math concepts fun and entertaining. Peace and Love Matt

    @KuhWristChin@KuhWristChin2 жыл бұрын
  • I'm surprised that you didn't save this for March 14.

    @KevinJCoburn@KevinJCoburn3 жыл бұрын
    • Hopefully that means there's something even cooler for then

      @coolfred9083@coolfred90833 жыл бұрын
    • I mean, traditionally he's calculating pi in March 14

      @yuvalne@yuvalne3 жыл бұрын
    • He was too hyped. Or there will be a super amazing video

      @DapSchaf@DapSchaf3 жыл бұрын
    • March 14 is reserved for calculating pi using non-standard ways.

      @leadnitrate2194@leadnitrate21943 жыл бұрын
    • March 14 is 14/03/21 in Britain.

      @matthewclements6603@matthewclements66033 жыл бұрын
  • "How about we start by setting pi equal to 3..." What is this, stand-up engineering?

    @CharlesJrPike@CharlesJrPike3 жыл бұрын
    • Eh, even an engineer'd probably use 22/7. Setting pi to 3, is closer to what a theoretical astro physicist would do. Though, maybe they'd just set pi to 1.

      @sykes1024@sykes10243 жыл бұрын
    • @@sykes1024 I love the joke, but in actuality, Natural Units make perfect sense. We have set all of our units to be useable with day-to-day activities, like driving a car or baking a cake. If you set the units to be most useful for theoretical astrophysicists, then you get a lot of 1's, and all the equations become a lot easier to work with, on a theoretical basis. You only need to bring back in all the powers of c and h if you want to make an experimental prediction in numbers that make any sense to us hoomans.

      @kindlin@kindlin3 жыл бұрын
    • As a physicist, I always have pi = e = 3. We don't use calculators, we just look at the first digit and the order of magnitude

      @pdorism@pdorism3 жыл бұрын
    • that seems right, but you do need to include 30% safety factor and round up to the next standard size.

      @Aeronwor@Aeronwor3 жыл бұрын
    • @@Aeronwor or use 4. Depends which side is conservative

      @davidmarshall2399@davidmarshall23993 жыл бұрын
  • This video was amazing. So many fascinating thoughts. Absolutely loved it!❤

    @dusk_and_dawn2187@dusk_and_dawn2187 Жыл бұрын
  • This is amazing. I love that you led with Tim Gowers' response, to reassure all the mathematicians in the audience: this isn't as simple as it might look, keep watching! 😅

    @gwillen@gwillen2 ай бұрын
  • "For simplicity's sake, why don't we start with setting pi equal to 3." Engineers everywhere rejoiced

    @laikahusky6358@laikahusky63583 жыл бұрын
    • .... and cried....

      @peteranon8455@peteranon84553 жыл бұрын
    • Trust me, I'm an engineer: π=3

      @billwhoever2830@billwhoever28303 жыл бұрын
    • @@billwhoever2830 But for some reason my wheels always fall off

      @persilious81@persilious813 жыл бұрын
    • @@persilious81 “I want a refund”

      @themushroom2130@themushroom21302 жыл бұрын
    • I'm not an engineer because I always use at least 3.14 (unless I'm using a calculator, which always uses about 3.14159265359)

      @michalnemecek3575@michalnemecek35752 жыл бұрын
  • Matt, can you please get closed captioning? I really appreciate your presentations and cannot tell what you are saying. The deaf community would benefit so much!

    @gregoryburns4821@gregoryburns48213 жыл бұрын
    • Captions take a few hours to show up on videos

      @frankjosephjr3722@frankjosephjr37223 жыл бұрын
    • @@frankjosephjr3722 Does it? I've only ever uploaded videos (not on this account!) that didn't need an immediate release, and found I could easily add subtitles before "publishing" the video - and then they appeared immediately. I suppose it's possible that - if you're trying to upload immediately - these things take a while to process..?

      @EcceJack@EcceJack3 жыл бұрын
    • @@frankjosephjr3722 yeah, atuo-generated ones

      @aaronjulien7331@aaronjulien73313 жыл бұрын
    • @@EcceJack they may be referring to the KZhead auto generated captions

      @dovecat@dovecat3 жыл бұрын
    • It Might be a good idea to allow for the comunnity to caption the videos, Matt! I'm willing to volunteer in doing Portuguese subtitles if you want!

      @MrZerRap@MrZerRap3 жыл бұрын
  • I wonder if this could be approached geometrically. I'm not sure what it would mean to raise a unit circle to the power of a unit circle, but with such of a conceptual tool, maybe it would be easier to figure out if it's sensible for pi^^3 to be an integer or not. If a unit circle raised to a power of itself, however that conceptualization presents itself, in some way increases its approximate proximity to a shape of non-transcendental volume, then it's conceivable that pi up-up-arrow x is an integer for some value of x. If the complexity of the resulting shape increases, and does so again when again raised to the power of the unit circle, perhaps we could conclude that it is not sensible for any x to yield pi ^^ x = integer.

    @benjiboy1337@benjiboy1337 Жыл бұрын
    • This is all way beyond me but if I had to make something up I would guess that circle^circle would be a sphere. So taking that all the way to the end would be a 5d circle. Granted I have no idea what I'm talking about and there's no way it's that simple.

      @usof75756@usof757565 ай бұрын
    • @@usof75756 I'm not actually sure what operation turns a unit circle into a unit sphere, but a unit circle raised to the power of a unit circle would be something like pi^2 unit circles, projected into four dimensions... I think. Since you're basically multiplying every point on the unit circle by another unit circle, the area should be (pi*r^2)^(pi*r^2), giving us pi^2*r^4. Plugging in 1 for r, we get just pi^2... so this might not be that useful of a line of inquiry after all. Using geometry for higher maths is mind bending, because we live in a 3-spatial one-temporal dimensional reference frame. There's some precedent for transcendental numbers to "cancel out" to an integer, though I only know of one actual case in Euler's formula. There's probably a Nobel or equivalent prize waiting for whoever discovers an equally beautiful formula in mathematics.

      @benjiboy1337@benjiboy13375 ай бұрын
  • I’ve watched this video 3 or 4 times since it came out. Great quality and fun video

    @encyclical@encyclical2 жыл бұрын
  • √2 is the only irrational number in existence, now confirmed

    @KirillTsukanov@KirillTsukanov3 жыл бұрын
    • I was surprised as well

      @Luca_5425@Luca_54253 жыл бұрын
    • π^π^π^π is rational. Proof: It isn't √2.

      @usernamenotfound80@usernamenotfound803 жыл бұрын
    • @@Luca_5425 You know he was joking, right?

      @cpotisch@cpotisch3 жыл бұрын
    • @@cpotisch of course

      @Luca_5425@Luca_54253 жыл бұрын
    • @@usernamenotfound80 QED 😎👌

      @Chisito23@Chisito233 жыл бұрын
  • As soon as I saw the title, I went to WolframAlpha, haha!

    @blackpenredpen@blackpenredpen3 жыл бұрын
    • Blackpenredpen: “do not trust wolfram alpha, trust algebra” Also blackpenredpen:

      @captainsnake8515@captainsnake85153 жыл бұрын
    • you are our favorite pokemon math youtuber

      @michaelwu9892@michaelwu98923 жыл бұрын
    • You had to fight evil Not join it!

      @rogo7330@rogo73303 жыл бұрын
    • Michael Wu COMRADE !

      @cezarcatalin1406@cezarcatalin14063 жыл бұрын
    • @@captainsnake8515 I trust wolfram alpha with my life Well really my school work, but that's pretty much my life right now. Yay college!

      @nahometesfay1112@nahometesfay11123 жыл бұрын
  • Enjoy this channel immensely. Most of us need tutoring when it comes to mathematics.

    @KpxUrz5745@KpxUrz57452 жыл бұрын
  • I don't understand almost anything in English, but thanks to the pictures I get the gist. It's gorgeous, I'm thrilled, thank you very much!

    @kano4ka@kano4ka4 ай бұрын
  • Matt: "It is complex..." Me: "Okay, explain it." Matt: "...literally." Me: "Oh."

    @Milkymalk@Milkymalk3 жыл бұрын
    • fear not, the complexity is merely _imaginary_

      @BattousaiHBr@BattousaiHBr3 жыл бұрын
    • *Applause from crowd*

      @Kanzu999@Kanzu9993 жыл бұрын
    • @@BattousaiHBr Quarternions be like:

      @michaelvstemerman@michaelvstemerman3 жыл бұрын
    • @@BattousaiHBr boo! boo!

      @slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght54473 жыл бұрын
    • @@BattousaiHBr only part of it is. The other is the real part.

      @kennarajora6532@kennarajora65323 жыл бұрын
  • Why don't we calculate it in base π? π in base π is just 10, an integer! The only problem is that the good old integers are now transcendental.

    @NightiNerd@NightiNerd3 жыл бұрын
    • Base-Pi that'd still be a ten-billion-digit number.

      @stevanmiladinovic4007@stevanmiladinovic40072 жыл бұрын
    • pi^pi^pi^pi = 10^10^10^10 base pi 10^10^10^10 is an integer therefore pi^pi^pi^pi is an integer if we work in base pi. QED

      @yyattt@yyattt2 жыл бұрын
    • @snarl banarl Hmmm, that's true. Now I have another idea: π^π^π^π is 10 in base π^π^π^π. It's an integer! We leave the proof for other bases to the interested reader.

      @NightiNerd@NightiNerd2 жыл бұрын
    • 10 in base pi is NOT an integer

      @electricengine8407@electricengine84072 жыл бұрын
    • This is a galaxy brain meme lol

      @cucen24601@cucen246012 жыл бұрын
  • It be pretty wild if any power tower turned out to be an integer. It'd mean that using higher order inverse tetration you could define pi in terms of integers. This would be categorically like pi turning out to be sqrt3. It can be defined using finite algebra (though extended from what we usually arbitrarily limit ourselves to.

    @perplexedon9834@perplexedon983411 ай бұрын
    • But we can already define it using integers. Matt does it every year for 14th of March (which people using skewed date notation call a pi day).

      @babilon6097@babilon60979 ай бұрын
    • ​@@babilon6097get back to me on april 31st /lh

      @Errenium@Errenium8 ай бұрын
    • ​@@babilon6097you're right, I meant a finite algebraic expression, like how the golden ratio can be.

      @perplexedon9834@perplexedon98348 ай бұрын
    • @perplexedon9834 Tetration and its inverse are transcendental functions, so it could never be a finite algebraic expression.

      @typicwhisper6569@typicwhisper65696 ай бұрын
    • But why couldn't it be finite algebraic expression ?@@typicwhisper6569

      @samueljehanno@samueljehanno5 ай бұрын
  • I think it would be better to refer to the “irrationals” from the beginning of the video as constructables or algebraic instead of irrational, because transcendental numbers are also irrational but they aren’t constructable nor algebraic.

    @peepock7796@peepock77962 жыл бұрын
    • Integers are rational numbers too. To be more precise he could have labeled the groups "integers", "non-integer rationals", and "non-transcendental irrationals" but he got the point across which is what really matters.

      @jacksonsmith2955@jacksonsmith2955 Жыл бұрын
  • *Me putting the expression in a calculator to see if it's an integer before watching the video*

    @RC32Smiths01@RC32Smiths013 жыл бұрын
    • Error: Result is too big

      @misiekeloo6114@misiekeloo61143 жыл бұрын
    • I thought my phone crashed

      @du42bz@du42bz3 жыл бұрын
    • @@misiekeloo6114 Indeed haha

      @RC32Smiths01@RC32Smiths013 жыл бұрын
    • @@du42bz same

      @RC32Smiths01@RC32Smiths013 жыл бұрын
    • Google says it's undefined

      @catfort.dragon@catfort.dragon3 жыл бұрын
  • "Pie to the pie to the pie to the pie" My doctor didn't like this diet plan

    @phitsf5475@phitsf54753 жыл бұрын
    • Underrated

      @hello_iam_potato@hello_iam_potato3 жыл бұрын
    • I remember a song some years back that went something like "moe to the e to the.." or something like that, and was thinking that if we knew the value of "moe" we could calculate the value of the equation.

      @michaelsmith4904@michaelsmith49043 жыл бұрын
    • We say n^2 is n squared, ^3 is cubed, and ^4 is hypercubed. I think this might be pi hyperpied.

      @azlandpilotcar4450@azlandpilotcar44503 жыл бұрын
    • Also pie to the pie to the pie to the pie sounds like a rapper saying pie pie pie pie

      @gurrrn1102@gurrrn11023 жыл бұрын
    • @@gurrrn1102 sick rhyme

      @hello_iam_potato@hello_iam_potato3 жыл бұрын
  • you are doing gods work my friend

    @bikramkalsi1@bikramkalsi18 ай бұрын
  • Still the best opening to any KZhead video

    @i_am_lambda@i_am_lambda2 жыл бұрын
  • "Everyone remembers where they were, the first time they noticed that" Yeah, on the toilet about 10 seconds ago, what a beautiful moment that was

    @emileheskey2754@emileheskey27543 жыл бұрын
    • Same

      @rups251195@rups2511952 жыл бұрын
  • To calculate pi^pi^pi^pi more easily, mathematicians should just work in base pi....

    @Thror251@Thror2513 жыл бұрын
    • That's great until you try to see if the extremely large result in base pi is an integer

      @samuelthecamel@samuelthecamel3 жыл бұрын
    • In base π, π^π (i.e. 10^10) is equal to 1012.031000012..., because π^π = π³ + π + 2 +3 π⁻² + π⁻³ + π⁻⁸ + 2 π⁻⁹ + · · · . So that's not really helpful.

      @EebstertheGreat@EebstertheGreat3 жыл бұрын
    • cursed

      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721@vigilantcosmicpenguin87213 жыл бұрын
    • @@EebstertheGreat This is a big brain moment

      @Syuvinya@Syuvinya3 жыл бұрын
    • @@samuelthecamel It WOULD be an integer, of course. The problem would be that all of the numbers that are currently nice, simple integers would become transcendental. Counting would become impossible.

      @briant7265@briant72653 жыл бұрын
  • This video has the best intro. I often come back to this just for the first 10 seconds. And then stick around for the whole vid, obv

    @mischa7406@mischa7406 Жыл бұрын
    • Hey look its me again watching the first 10 seconds

      @mischa7406@mischa7406Ай бұрын
  • “RATIOnal. Everyone remembers where they were when they first noticed that.” I was here, watching this video.

    @aidenbagshaw5573@aidenbagshaw55732 жыл бұрын
  • Don't give that virtual audience CG tomatoes, whatever you do.

    @WaterShowsProd@WaterShowsProd3 жыл бұрын
    • Virtual audiences are vicious.

      @Eric_The_Cleric@Eric_The_Cleric3 жыл бұрын
  • "We set pi to 3" Astrophysicists: Wait what, thought the approximation was 10?

    @aykborstelmann8623@aykborstelmann86233 жыл бұрын
    • My reaction exactly. Surely we can approximate pi^pi^pi^pi to within a few orders of magnitude?

      @pankajbhambhani2268@pankajbhambhani22683 жыл бұрын
    • Why do they of all people use 10, anyway? Everyone knows base 10's just a cultural bias inspired by our hands. And 3×3 squares, but those aren't that much more relevant to physics.

      @CarbonRollerCaco@CarbonRollerCaco3 жыл бұрын
    • @@CarbonRollerCaco I guess because base 10 is the standard in scientific notation. If a star has mass x * 10^y, astronomers usually can't precisely measure x, so they don't care about. They only care about y, the order of magnitude, which they can estimate properly.

      @pankajbhambhani2268@pankajbhambhani22683 жыл бұрын
    • @@CarbonRollerCaco Because other people use 10. No number is better than another in a vacuum. Same reason why you use lightyear instead of inches to talk about astronomy, despite the calculation to change basis is trivially easy.

      @user-mv2nn6rw2w@user-mv2nn6rw2w3 жыл бұрын
    • @@pankajbhambhani2268 It's still ironic that scientific notation, which is supposed to be unbiased, uses a scientifically wonky base informed by culture only because of evolutionary happenstance. But it is understandable in a sense as they need to quickly relate things to what's already convenient, even if it's an anachronism. Even still, it sounds wrong as THE base for magnitude.

      @CarbonRollerCaco@CarbonRollerCaco3 жыл бұрын
  • A proof that there are no integers in the sequence π, π^π, π^π^π, … would certainly be interesting. A proof that there are integers might be even more interesting.

    @regimeoftruth@regimeoftruth2 жыл бұрын
    • This is interesting !

      @samueljehanno@samueljehanno5 ай бұрын
    • And if all pi^^n wont be integers, what about pi^^pi ?

      @CafeMuyCaliente@CafeMuyCaliente4 ай бұрын
    • @@CafeMuyCaliente interesting

      @samueljehanno@samueljehanno4 ай бұрын
  • Eu gosto disso! Boa explicação detalhada!

    @user-fb2qr4ru6i@user-fb2qr4ru6i Жыл бұрын
  • Fun fact: Even though we don't know for sure if pi+e and pi*e are irrational, we know that at least one of them is. Otherwise, if pi+e and pi*e were both rational, then the solutions (namely pi and e) to the equation x^2 - (pi+e)x + pi*e = 0 would be quadratic irrationals, but we know this is not the case.

    @johnchessant3012@johnchessant30123 жыл бұрын
    • What's your source

      @kddanstars9288@kddanstars92883 жыл бұрын
    • @@kddanstars9288 if you know the quadratic formula, you can see that he ia right

      @CreeperDeLux@CreeperDeLux3 жыл бұрын
    • Yes, but the question at 12:20 wasn't whether pi+e and pi*e are irrational, but rather whether they are transcendental.

      @daicon2k6@daicon2k63 жыл бұрын
    • Pi+e = pie, but because pi is already pronounced pie, we prove that e=0.

      @ratlinggull2223@ratlinggull22233 жыл бұрын
    • @@ratlinggull2223 And in a cylinder with a radius Z and a height A, the volume equals Pi*Z*Z*A

      @thassalantekreskel5742@thassalantekreskel57423 жыл бұрын
  • I know what pi to the pi to the pi to the pi is. Its "Error: Overflow"

    @lerntuspel6256@lerntuspel62563 жыл бұрын
    • Don't be silly, it is very obviously equal to "MATH error"

      @antoniocoulton5017@antoniocoulton50173 жыл бұрын
    • @@antoniocoulton5017 math error on casio calculators. Don't know what others say though

      @sadkritx6200@sadkritx62003 жыл бұрын
    • @@sadkritx6200 TI says Error: Overflow

      @tiem217@tiem2173 жыл бұрын
    • it's "overflow - huge result is out of SpeedCrunch's number range"

      @tobiasbrohl5958@tobiasbrohl59583 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah I did it in my calculator and get math error

      @giovanicampos4120@giovanicampos41203 жыл бұрын
  • I love the 2010 powerpoint themes used in your titles! haha jk love everything but that stood out for a comment for me for some reason

    @zachhoy@zachhoy7 ай бұрын
  • This is the mathematical content I’ve been waiting for

    @kekoasilva1501@kekoasilva15012 жыл бұрын
  • I like how he wrote that 11^6/13 is rational as a callback to a video he did about why an advanced casio calculator said that 11^6/13=156158413*pi/3600

    @Fun_maths@Fun_maths3 жыл бұрын
    • -1/12 was also a callback to a Numberphile video

      @ZevEisenberg@ZevEisenberg3 жыл бұрын
    • @@ZevEisenberg don't know if I'd call the -1/12 a callback or just generally a controversial result in mathematics in general and hence worth putting in

      @meltingkeith7046@meltingkeith70463 жыл бұрын
    • @@meltingkeith7046 The result itself isn't controversial. The sloppy/misleading presentation of it to the general populace was.

      @trogdorstrngbd@trogdorstrngbd3 жыл бұрын
    • Well spotted, didn't notice that one!

      @Garbaz@Garbaz3 жыл бұрын
    • @@ZevEisenberg that was actually - 1/( 4 π)

      @onradioactivewaves@onradioactivewaves3 жыл бұрын
  • Worried that the pandemic is finally getting to Matt and he's building an army of imaginary audience friends

    @jerwahjwcc@jerwahjwcc3 жыл бұрын
    • Don’t worry. He’s not building them. He’s already built them.

      @danielhenderson9719@danielhenderson97193 жыл бұрын
    • There is no problem, as long as he multiplies the imaginary audience by itself, he will get a real audience

      @simonecatenacci726@simonecatenacci7263 жыл бұрын
    • @@simonecatenacci726 Although it will be negative, so not much applause alas

      @syllogism5843@syllogism58433 жыл бұрын
    • I think you mean Lateral.

      @AmaroqStarwind@AmaroqStarwind3 жыл бұрын
    • His audience is quite complex.

      @ailaG@ailaG3 жыл бұрын
  • 4:44 Mathematics dictator

    @idkmax5977@idkmax5977 Жыл бұрын
    • 😅😅😅

      @idkmax5977@idkmax5977 Жыл бұрын
  • This is excellent stuff!

    @BegsToDiffer@BegsToDiffer9 ай бұрын
  • "What kind of clickbait is this???" A seriously nerdy kind

    @DannyGottawa@DannyGottawa3 жыл бұрын
  • I can never hear "three to the three to the three" without having bad flashbacks to Graham's Number

    @FourthDerivative@FourthDerivative2 жыл бұрын
    • yea

      @LittleEinsteinAdi@LittleEinsteinAdi2 жыл бұрын
    • Same.

      @NoriMori1992@NoriMori19922 жыл бұрын
    • Haha so trueee

      @woollycomet@woollycomet2 жыл бұрын
    • If we can find a phenomenon in nature... ... That we can do with ... via the use of sciences?

      @1mol831@1mol831 Жыл бұрын
  • Still in the adverts but I can tell I’m gonna love this channel.

    @dylonlarue8350@dylonlarue83502 жыл бұрын
  • 10:30 Python supports arbitrary precision decimals via the `decimal` library, and there's an example on the docs page to calculate Pi to an arbitrary number of digits.

    @brianolsen5435@brianolsen5435 Жыл бұрын
    • So what’s stopping you from punching in pi^pi^pi^pi?

      @stargazer7644@stargazer7644 Жыл бұрын
  • "We know 3, beacuse it is equal to 3" Yes the floor here is made of floor

    @IBlewUpYourHouse@IBlewUpYourHouse3 жыл бұрын
    • But 3 + 3 equals 7, for large values of 3.

      @RWZiggy@RWZiggy3 жыл бұрын
    • But we're talking about 3, not 4.

      @timothymclean@timothymclean3 жыл бұрын
    • @@RWZiggy However, it is also worth noting that the limit of 3 as 3 approaches 0 is 4.

      @shreebatsachaturvedi5376@shreebatsachaturvedi53763 жыл бұрын
    • Hi, Vsauce here...

      @LA-MJ@LA-MJ3 жыл бұрын
    • floor(3) = 3

      @underrated1524@underrated15243 жыл бұрын
  • I feel like everyone is thinking in circles here.

    @christopherquigley5468@christopherquigley54683 жыл бұрын
    • On a pie chart, it might be assumed, but on a donut chart, one might come across phi. I tried bringing this up, but I was told to "shut my blooming phi HOLE!"

      @calebclunie4001@calebclunie40013 жыл бұрын
    • @@calebclunie4001 Thanks, now I'm imagining a fractal donut of a donut... define the emerging donut. And the ratio of the radii. Someone calculate?

      @vblaas246@vblaas2463 жыл бұрын
    • semicircles...

      @zbnmth@zbnmth3 жыл бұрын
    • Don't be a square.

      @Dowlphin@Dowlphin3 жыл бұрын
    • @@vblaas246 That sounds totally radiical!

      @Dowlphin@Dowlphin3 жыл бұрын
  • Fun fact ! The short way to describe this (which unfortunately doesn't have accepted notation) is to say pi tetrated 4, sometimes you can use ^^ to indicate power towers instead, so it would be pi^^4 but many syntax structures use that for exponents instead so its not universal.

    @echoawoo7195@echoawoo7195 Жыл бұрын
    • ⁴^π

      @takemyhand1988@takemyhand19886 ай бұрын
    • Yeah sure

      @samueljehanno@samueljehanno5 ай бұрын
  • Yes, I love the final "digts" of powers of 3, too. ;-)

    @MichaelMoore99@MichaelMoore992 жыл бұрын
  • Matt: lets set Pi equal to 3 Everyone: boooooo Engineers: this is my time to shine...

    @outsidestuff5283@outsidestuff52833 жыл бұрын
    • Pfft, pi=3 is crude. Now pi^2=10, that’s where the money is! (More like 9.9 but that’s not as catchy)

      @semiclassical7620@semiclassical76203 жыл бұрын
    • 3=e=π=√g (on earth)

      @floop_the_pigs2840@floop_the_pigs28403 жыл бұрын
    • Pi is 22/7... that's probably good enough for anything a normal person does.

      @georgelionon9050@georgelionon90503 жыл бұрын
    • @@georgelionon9050 honestly yeah

      @floop_the_pigs2840@floop_the_pigs28403 жыл бұрын
    • Astrophysicists: Pi = 1 is close enough.

      @Runoratsu@Runoratsu3 жыл бұрын
  • I'm surprised there was no mention of the fact that e^(i.pi) = -1 Transcendental AND imaginary numbers combined to produce an integer.

    @neilruston8796@neilruston87962 жыл бұрын
    • Well try to plot a complex power without formula U cant Complex power is defined by infinite series Complex number and cos, sin is easy to plot But u cant plot a complex power without converting to cos and sin It is unintuitive, someone just wanted to give it a definition and so they did by infinite series If u want to prove me wrong otherwise, try to plot 7^(3+i8) without converting it or anything

      @urnoob5528@urnoob5528 Жыл бұрын
    • @@urnoob5528 "It is unintuitive" So are PDEs, that doesn't make them wrong. "someone just wanted to give it a definition and so they did by infinite series" Everything related to e^x(or better say, the exponential function, without knowing that exp(1) = e) can be derived from its power series alone. Or (I) exp(a + b) = exp(a)exp(b) and (II) 1 + x inf] (1 + x/n)^n Or continuous growth Or y = y' Or... If the power series is a perfectly fine way to define exp(x), exp(i) is perfectly fine as well. Let's not forget about the useful math thanks to exp(i). Laplace/Fourier transform comes to mind ;) "But u cant plot a complex power without converting to cos and sin" 7^(3 + i8) = 7^3 * e^(i8ln(7)). Vector with length 7^3, x-axis and vector enclose 8ln(7) rads, that is (360 * 8ln(7) / 2π)° ~= 891.94° ^= 171.94° (mod 360). Look mom, without trigs! "without converting it or anything" try to plot x^2 * y'' + x * y' + 4 * y = 0, y(-1) = 3, y'(0) = 0 wItHoUt CoNvErTiNg It Or AnYtHiNg

      @2eanimation@2eanimation Жыл бұрын
    • Well _I_ think he should have mentioned e^(i*τ)=1 instead, which is the far superior formula

      @aguyontheinternet8436@aguyontheinternet8436 Жыл бұрын
    • God is the greatest troll ever😂

      @mikeoxmall69420@mikeoxmall69420 Жыл бұрын
    • @@aguyontheinternet8436 ew no

      @fahrenheit2101@fahrenheit2101 Жыл бұрын
  • 11^6/13 as a rational is a nice touch at 1:43

    @altf3yt@altf3yt29 күн бұрын
  • Many thanks for this good video.

    @mahmoudalbahar1641@mahmoudalbahar16412 жыл бұрын
  • e^(i*pi) is an integer. I'm surprised you didn't mention it. Great video!

    @seanmurphy8435@seanmurphy84353 жыл бұрын
    • i is imaginary though. I think he purposefully kept the categories in real numbers.

      @bman5257@bman52572 жыл бұрын
    • i is not a transcendental number tho

      @JackiTheOne@JackiTheOne2 жыл бұрын
    • @@JackiTheOne i*π is transcendental

      @AuroraNora3@AuroraNora32 жыл бұрын
    • But it's a different pi. It's not the number pi it's an arc of pi radians, or 180 degrees or 1/2 circle, both of those definitions are no longer transcendental.

      @YTEdy@YTEdy2 жыл бұрын
    • Nice, don't touch the like, please

      @mr.cheese5697@mr.cheese56972 жыл бұрын
  • Let me tell you: PyPy to the PyPI results in a lot of incompatible libraries. (Thankfully, the most important ones are compatible.)

    @PanduPoluan@PanduPoluan3 жыл бұрын
    • my mind became numb py

      @ratlinggull2223@ratlinggull22233 жыл бұрын
    • *Sigh py*

      @jacquesstoop2587@jacquesstoop25873 жыл бұрын
    • @@jacquesstoop2587 Daaaaamn I was racking my brain trying to pun SciPy 😆

      @PanduPoluan@PanduPoluan3 жыл бұрын
    • damn, is this Py Game or something?

      @kakyoindonut3213@kakyoindonut32133 жыл бұрын
    • @@kakyoindonut3213 don't worry it's just a joke from the programmer's PyPline

      @Orincaby@Orincaby2 жыл бұрын
  • Last year when I viewed this video, I brushed off jane street like I do with any ad I see in any video. Today, Jane Street is my absolute dream job and I would absolutely do anything for a job there. It is truly an amazing company. Lesson here, ads are not always that terrible.

    @hbxit1888@hbxit18882 жыл бұрын
  • wow you're right, pi IS about 3 using that from now on ty

    @combogalis@combogalis4 ай бұрын
  • I was somewhat curious. Using some log calculations, the whole digit part (or the whole number I guess should pi^pi^pi^pi be an integer) would require ~245 petabytes of information. Surprisingly, while no computer has that kind of storage capacity, quite a few cloud storage have quite a bit more than that amount. So we may not be able to process that number, but we could store it if some alien gave that number to us.

    @Treviisolion@Treviisolion2 жыл бұрын
    • Thrust me, in 20-30 years, most big cloud server would have that amount of storage.

      @RGC_animation@RGC_animation2 жыл бұрын
    • @@RGC_animation thrust you? oh my.

      @triciaf61@triciaf612 жыл бұрын
    • @@RGC_animation Moore's law just proves so

      @joshuathomasmacalintalsoli6307@joshuathomasmacalintalsoli63072 жыл бұрын
    • My impression from what Matt was saying was we probably could calculate it if we dedicated all of Earth's computing resources to it for long enough (but like less than a human lifetime). But that's not exactly a reasonable thing to do.

      @danieljensen2626@danieljensen26262 жыл бұрын
    • Today I learned that cloud storage is some sort of magical entity that is not a computer. Interesting. Do you have more hocus pocus to share.

      @techrev9999@techrev99992 жыл бұрын
  • The fact that he pauses just before saying each number makes me think he's actually calculating them all in his head

    @a_cats@a_cats3 жыл бұрын
    • You've fallen into his trap -- that's what Matt *wants* you to think ;)

      @peNdantry@peNdantry3 жыл бұрын
  • The only surprise here for me is that I have never really thought about how to *practically* store the results of greater and greater calculations of π (so that they are easily and more or less instantly usable to others, say across a network.) Storing the data as one byte per Digit would be a (by current standards) fairly substantial and yet fairly commonplace storage of 50 terabytes. That would be as a potential BigNum of one byte per digit. Edit: The problem of how to make enormously precise Pi calculations more easily accessible has me wondering, what about efforts to improve on 22/7? For every next big leap in Pi-cision, are we keeping up with some effort to maintain a series of ratios that can fill in segments of the digits (and/or correct the imprecisions of the previous approximation?) For example, for a given precision of Pi, there may be n/m that serves to adjust the precision by: 22/7 ± n/m ("adjust" similarly to correcting a trajectory or other vector.) Alternately, you might use a ratio that gives you accurate digits to a point, discard the rest and add to that another ratio that merely provides several more digits and then raise that ratio to an inverse power of ten to drop those digits into their slot.

    @hyperbaroque@hyperbaroque2 жыл бұрын
  • Upper and lower bounds : exponential functions are monotonous and either increasing or decreasing. So calculate 3^3^3^3 and 4^4^4^4 for the interval in which the solution lies. Try the first decimal 3.1^3.1^3.1^3.1 to check whether it is in the interval. Maybe reformulate the equation to basis e^x. So something like (pi^pi^pi)^x = (whatever it is in natural base)^y. Iterate for (pi^pi)^(pi) etc. Something like that. Check whether it is in the interval. These are the first approaches that come to my mind.

    @simplyme5324@simplyme53243 ай бұрын
  • 7:00 Timothy was so concerned with whether or not he could break the 31.4 trillion digit record for pi that he never stopped to wonder if he SHOULD... guess we now just need to wait for a hero to get to 314 trillion

    @graemetang4173@graemetang41732 жыл бұрын
    • When COVID happens people get bored

      @vin_fm2354@vin_fm23542 жыл бұрын
    • It is broken again.Now, it's 62.8 trillion digits.Exciting times

      @METALSCAVENGER78@METALSCAVENGER782 жыл бұрын
    • @@METALSCAVENGER78 thats twice pi

      @greatorionbelt@greatorionbelt2 жыл бұрын
    • @@greatorionbelt tau

      @kijete@kijete Жыл бұрын
    • :)

      @David-gu8hv@David-gu8hv Жыл бұрын
  • I was under the impression that "irrational" included "transcendental", and that things like root-2 were more specifically "algebraic".

    @klikkolee@klikkolee3 жыл бұрын
    • Your impression is corrext

      @aidanhennessey5586@aidanhennessey55863 жыл бұрын
    • transcendental numbers are by definition irrational, since they can't be expressed in a ratio. i'm assuming this video separated transcendentals from other irrational numbers to simplify the difference between numbers like root 2 and pi

      @harrisonbaguley5691@harrisonbaguley56913 жыл бұрын
    • I'm glad it's not just me 😅

      @willgaj@willgaj3 жыл бұрын
    • Everyone needs to upvote this comment! Matt has repeatedly made this mistake (I'm pretty sure he does it out of convenience) and needs to stop. It's mostly OK when he says it verbally in the presence of an accurate graphic depicting the number set relationships, but otherwise it's just wrong.

      @trogdorstrngbd@trogdorstrngbd3 жыл бұрын
    • Yup, I reacted to this as well when he essentially claimed pi is not an irrational number.

      @theWebWizrd@theWebWizrd3 жыл бұрын
  • the insertion of studio audience for example is simply revolutionary.

    @draisens@draisens8 ай бұрын
  • This was such a fun video

    @smmizanurrahman71@smmizanurrahman718 ай бұрын
  • Correction: Irrationals include transcendental numbers. "Things that are a solution to a nice polynomial equation" are called algebraic numbers (2:05)

    @balsoft01@balsoft012 жыл бұрын
    • Algebraic numbers also include rational numbers. And rational numbers include integers.. so really right things to say would have been "integers", "non-integer rationals", "algebraic irrationals" and "transcendentals" But this is just too crowded, don't ya think?

      @infinemyself5604@infinemyself56042 жыл бұрын
    • @@infinemyself5604 no two-word terms, if they are more specific and avoids wrongly excluding a number from a group it actually belongs to is justified 😀

      @ElvisTranscriber2@ElvisTranscriber22 жыл бұрын
    • But this now leads to an interesting question. The proof that he gave that irrational ^ irrational = rational worked because sqrt(2)^sqrt(2) is either rational or irrational, and either way, we got an irrational ^ irrational = rational. However, are there two algebraic irrational numbers, a and b, such that a^b = rational.

      @chaosredefined3834@chaosredefined38342 жыл бұрын
    • @@chaosredefined3834 sqrt(2) is an algebraic irrational

      @tantarudragos@tantarudragos2 жыл бұрын
    • @@tantarudragos This is true. But sqrt(2)^sqrt(2) is not. So, he ends up with a is transcendental, b is algebraic, and got a^b is rational.

      @chaosredefined3834@chaosredefined38342 жыл бұрын
  • 0:09 : "An integer?" *Someone puts a hat on it* "Perry the integer?!"

    @anthonyisom7468@anthonyisom74683 жыл бұрын
    • this is not for normies ,... only few people would understand

      @tomcat1184@tomcat11843 жыл бұрын
    • @@tomcat1184 one of the most normie memes around

      @kroolini3678@kroolini36783 жыл бұрын
    • @@brahadkokad5424 you’re 10

      @kroolini3678@kroolini36783 жыл бұрын
    • Nice one

      @yuvi6034@yuvi60343 жыл бұрын
  • I love how Douglas Adams' 42 always gets a reference 🙂

    @PooperScooperTrooper@PooperScooperTrooper Жыл бұрын
  • What is rather more bewildering, and simultaneously maddening, is that we use the speed of light to define time, and we use time to define the speed of light. It makes me head hurt whenever I try to think about it/them.

    @Chris.Davies@Chris.Davies7 ай бұрын
  • “I’m gonna do what’s called an engineer move” *Sets Pi equal to 3*

    @judedavis92@judedavis922 жыл бұрын
    • *Sets 3 equal to 3*

      @psychopompous489@psychopompous4892 жыл бұрын
    • Nope we engineers don't do that, ever.

      @e.s.6275@e.s.6275 Жыл бұрын
  • 1:53 I remember where I was when I noticed that. I was sat in my chair watching a video about how pi^pi^pi^pi could be an integer

    @BlackDeath2812@BlackDeath28123 жыл бұрын
    • Same! What are the odds?!

      @Youaveragecountryhumansfan@Youaveragecountryhumansfan4 ай бұрын
  • The whole discussion around minute 11 of calculating pi to the pi using an approximation of pi, I think, runs into another problem at a theoretical level, not about computing power. Any approximation of pi we can put into a computer will be a rational number. It will either end in terminating digits or in a repeating digit. So we are not testing pi (or pi to the pi), we are testing a rational number raised to a rational number.

    @sidkemp4672@sidkemp4672 Жыл бұрын
    • True, but we don't necessarily need to know the exact answer to know if it's not an integer; knowing it to one decimal place might be enough (or it might not). The hilarious thing would be if we calculate it accurate to 8 decimal places and it ends with .00000000something. It's PROBABLY an integer, but we wouldn't know for certain that the next digit isn't a 4.

      @ptorq@ptorq Жыл бұрын
    • @@ptorq My point is that, even if we did that, we would simply be converting a rational number to a (probable) integer, and that would still say nothing about the issue of transforming transcendentals into integers or rational numbers.

      @sidkemp4672@sidkemp4672 Жыл бұрын
  • Ideas to calculate it: Reverse Engeneering - for example: you have the number 1,000,000. You square root it four times and if the number is closer to pi, you add +1 and do the calculation again. As you get closer, you add less and less to match pi. Physically - Have a physical circle, that is spinned the requered amout and see the answer as π=circumference/diameter

    @EquaTechnologies@EquaTechnologies6 ай бұрын
    • Square root four times won’t work as that inverts (((π^2)^2)^2)^2 or π^16, not π^π^π^π

      @jhgvvetyjj6589@jhgvvetyjj6589Ай бұрын
  • Matt: "What type of click bait is this?" Me (who clicked the video): "The good type, obviously."

    @rmschad5234@rmschad52342 жыл бұрын
  • Arithmetic alert! At 8+ min, while you're showing powers of 3 (mod 1000), 3⁹ (mod 1000) is shown as 618, which is clearly impossible (it has to be an odd number!). The actual value is 683 (3⁹ = 19683). 3²⁷ (mod 1000) is, however, correctly shown as 987. Still a great video! Fred

    @ffggddss@ffggddss3 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah i was like how the heck 8 showed up

      @devd_rx@devd_rx2 жыл бұрын
    • And also "digits" is spelled "digts"!

      @M0jibake@M0jibake Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks!

    @dushyanthabandarapalipana5492@dushyanthabandarapalipana54922 жыл бұрын
  • 4:08 e ^ ln(2) = 2 and "... no one bats an i". Kudos, sir, kud-OS!

    @eternalfizzer@eternalfizzer2 жыл бұрын
  • This is like trying to rebuild after a hurricane by sending three more hurricanes through

    @mattsnyder4754@mattsnyder47543 жыл бұрын
    • With an infinite number of hurricanes eventually everything will be blown back into place.

      @Kishmond@Kishmond3 жыл бұрын
    • Yes...chimps given enough time and a keyboard will mash out the collected works of Shakespeare.

      @xavariusquest4603@xavariusquest46033 жыл бұрын
    • Yea it's just like evolution, you can get something complex and structured from pure chaos

      @bennyblubman9476@bennyblubman94763 жыл бұрын
    • yeah....send more hurricanes hoping that they ALL could eventually fix those buildings and revive those killed people .....absolutely stunning :))

      @rcsibiu@rcsibiu3 жыл бұрын
    • @@rcsibiu if the difference between life and death is just having your atoms in the right places, the chances of a hurricane reviving someone is technically more than 0 lol

      @rstriker21@rstriker213 жыл бұрын
  • "They are any number that can be written as a ratio, in fact, it's in the name" That should have come naturally to me...... I mean rationally...

    @masvindu@masvindu3 жыл бұрын
    • i/2 is a ratio but not a rational number.

      @happygimp0@happygimp03 жыл бұрын
    • @@happygimp0 rational numbers are ratios of integers

      @blauesserpiroyal2887@blauesserpiroyal28873 жыл бұрын
  • My 1st thought we need a function that describes the distance to the nearest int and then try limits

    @umgeburstet8161@umgeburstet81618 ай бұрын
  • Great video! Just a little disappointed that you didn't mention the Madhava-Leibniz series...

    @marwinthedja5450@marwinthedja54502 жыл бұрын
  • Wouldn't "π + e" just be "pie"?

    @moparacker@moparacker3 жыл бұрын
    • But is pie an integer or not?

      @catfort.dragon@catfort.dragon3 жыл бұрын
    • That sounds rational to me.

      @TheNameOfJesus@TheNameOfJesus3 жыл бұрын
    • Since when "ab" can mean "a+b"? So "pie" is actually π×e

      @JayOhm@JayOhm3 жыл бұрын
    • Give this man a nobel price!

      @psy0rz@psy0rz3 жыл бұрын
    • @@JayOhm No, that's pixie minus i.

      @mtgradwell@mtgradwell3 жыл бұрын
  • "we set pi equal to 3" Pappa flammy has entered the chat

    @d0themath284@d0themath2843 жыл бұрын
    • "We're doing calculations tho" Flammy has left the chat

      @GaussianEntity@GaussianEntity3 жыл бұрын
  • that rational numbers realization thing was so TRUE!!!!

    @user-xt9cp5fw5y@user-xt9cp5fw5y3 ай бұрын
  • pi^pi^pi = Dream's luck when speedrunning.

    @Wrenosaur_@Wrenosaur_3 жыл бұрын
    • Mmm

      @God-gi9iu@God-gi9iu2 жыл бұрын
    • Ee

      @God-gi9iu@God-gi9iu2 жыл бұрын
    • about that

      @flameseeker4058@flameseeker40582 жыл бұрын
    • That's only like over 30 my guy Nvm it's xE+18

      @insertnamehere4775@insertnamehere47752 жыл бұрын
    • @dang bro it aged very well

      @incription@incription2 жыл бұрын
  • Who else here is not subscribed to this channel but is so much of a nerd that the KZhead algorithm showed this video at the top of your recommendations?

    @AnnoyingMoose@AnnoyingMoose3 жыл бұрын
    • Name agrees with this comment

      @fulltimeslackerii8229@fulltimeslackerii82293 жыл бұрын
    • What episode did you lose your S-Card to ? (if you can even....)

      @scene2much@scene2much3 жыл бұрын
    • I got a recommendation for his ellipse perimeter video a few months ago. The only thing “nerdy” at the time I was subscribed to (and still am) is cracking the cryptic which has these two guys who work through very complex and interesting sudoku puzzles and such. I don’t quite know why I was recommended Matt Parker at the time, but I won’t complain, he’s great.

      @mikeychrisanthus9948@mikeychrisanthus99483 жыл бұрын
  • Presumably a π^π^π^π wasn't chosen at random. It would have been interesting to know a bit more about *why* mathematicians think it _might_ be an integer.

    @winstonfg@winstonfg Жыл бұрын
    • sometimes they just like puzzles and there's no application whatsoever.

      @alexCh-ln2gw@alexCh-ln2gw9 ай бұрын
    • it's big enough that we can't check it by computation, and we simply haven't proven it isn't

      @the_cheese_cultist@the_cheese_cultist8 ай бұрын
    • @@alexCh-ln2gwthis is describe most theoretical science lmao

      @supayambaek@supayambaek7 ай бұрын
    • That's unfair@@the_cheese_cultist

      @samueljehanno@samueljehanno5 ай бұрын
    • Because of weed, it gives unexpected results when you apply it to math logic.

      @trevoro.9731@trevoro.97314 ай бұрын
  • *LET π = 3* Engineers : I see someone not of my kind but trying to be of my kind ....

    @aryankangude1208@aryankangude12083 жыл бұрын
    • With pi=3 you get an inscribed hexagon, with pi=4 you get an outscribed square.

      @Nikioko@Nikioko3 жыл бұрын
    • Inscribed hex in a circle radius 1 has area 6*1²_/3/4=3_/3/2 < 3

      @nikoladjuric9904@nikoladjuric99043 жыл бұрын
  • "We know that God exists because mathematics is consistent and we know that the devil exists because we cannot prove the consistency." -- Andre Weil (an agnostic)

    @thorndelwyn6528@thorndelwyn65283 жыл бұрын
    • that is one way of looking at the argument. also one could say argue the opposite. God can do anything so thus if math is constant then God can change what a basic 1 plus 3 would be without changing other math equations...or can God not do this..

      @2019inuyasha@2019inuyasha3 жыл бұрын
    • To be almighty does not include solving paradoxes.

      @JoshyLook18@JoshyLook183 жыл бұрын
    • @@JoshyLook18 why not?

      @Elyzeon.@Elyzeon.3 жыл бұрын
    • Andre Weil is one of my favorite mathematicians. What a great quote. :)

      @ethanjensen7967@ethanjensen79673 жыл бұрын
    • Except that mathematics are a human invention that was designed to be consistent.

      @ijustchangedmyname@ijustchangedmyname3 жыл бұрын
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