Should clubs get a discount for developing their own juniors? | Wide World of Sports
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If Gus’s plan was put in place the Storm would never have been stripped of their titles. Smith, Cronk,Slater, Inglis for starters were developed at Storm.
Absolutely development is key for league
Yes they should.
SALARY CAPS CANNOT WORK without a draft period .
We’ve been saying it for decades now! Yes is the answer
No-one complained when the Bunnies and Magpies were being decimated in the junior ranks by the wealthy clubs in the old days.
Yes, there should be a discount (10%?) on the salary cap for self developed players. Some clubs are just vultures who swoop in at every opportunity. Furthermore I'd like clubs who poach players developed by other clubs to pay a player development fee for that player. That system is in place in European soccer and some (up to 40-50%?) of that development money should flow through to the junior clubs from where the NRL clubs have recruited these players.
Don't often agree with Gus, but he's spot on here
Penrith as a great club it is the salary cap shouldn't change but I agree with Gus well said. 💯
The warriors have a war chest if this happened the amount of players they loose
Clubs with bigger geographical areas in the country spend alot of money just encouraging young kids to play and increasing the talent pool quantity. Then a “development” club picks the eyes out of them at 14-15 years of age.
The only discount should be for players who go from Harold Matthews to NRL without a change in clubs. It should be 100% discount from cap.
Yes, I was only saying this recently. Currently there is no incentive
Teams like Panthers, Broncos produce a lot of talent in the NRL, The other teams just poach to boost their roster
Get off it. The Broncos poach from all corners of Queensland.
NRL needs a draft now
Maybe in the early 2000’s when it would have helped the Dragons but now we need the rebuild everyone else can go do whatever you think to themselves.
Ive seen so many kids earning 350000 over 3 years that either never play or still end up getting poach by another team like sualli and souths.
“Roosters are a development club” lmfao
5% of all signon fees go to the development club?
Definitely Right 💯 👍
Of course. Melbourne, Parra andNew Zealand would have to actually contribute.
Contribute in what way? You mean send out more juniors for other clubs to poach?
Come to NZ and see a under 15's game and you will see a lot of men who work for Aussie clubs looking to import players to Australia!
I can understand 'swooping' melbourne! Not many juniors in VIC due to the AFL. Half of the eels side and most of the warriors side are juniors so you might have to do some research
@@oiyeahnahh9785 I have, you’re way off.
@goldBawls Hes not wrong about NZ at least, their players get poached by Union & League scouts constantly from Aus.
Yes!
Imagine if the Panthers hadn't lost one junior in the last 3 years. There reserve grade would make the top 4 in the NRL! You can't keep everyone. Junior development should be for the game not clubs.
Yeah but penrith are the only club that has been doing junior development on a large scale for a long period of time atm.The argument is everyone should be doing what they are because it's better for the game AND the clubs
@@damonmlinaric9254 yep if all clubs were developing like the Panthers that would be great for the game. To do this they would need a catchment area and leagues club as big as the Riff. The single town teams should definitely be matching Panthers.
Gus Gould an Co is over paid !
Are you paying the Pacific Island countries for development? the Pacific Island are the biggest nurturing ground of talent in the world. No one pays them a cent.
wouldn't be an issue if the NRL changed the rules back to when skill and endurance was priority for players. You bring back the limited interchange, 5 metre rule and suddenly islanders are no longer the dominant participants.
Penrith would win the competition every year. Because they have the best local juniors
No they don't. They have the money to pay their kids to stay. There is no salary cap for juniors. All those gambling addicts pushing their pensions through the pokies are paying for those kids free rent and food outside the salary cap.
dude be biting his nails...mah manz
No they shouldn't. Clubs like Penrith and the Broncos have a ridiculous advantage through having a ludicrously large nursery area. And you want to give them MORE advantage?
I think if anyone should be getting more salary cap space it should be the bottom 4 clubs because they need to attract star players to move up the ladder. Not many players want to move to a bottom 4 team, so bottom 4 teams end up paying overs for star players anyway
@@tomflanagan878 the AFL have a draft to help level the playing field. Maybe the NRL should revisit the concept.
8:38 lol there we go. Gus’ club has pillaged the Penrith System and got all they can afford and are now worried about being able to keep the players they still need who would cost the most to poach. Always an agenda with this bloke.
What a stupid discussion.
Its not a stupid discussion when you have some clubs that spend zero on development and a few that spend millions.
What a stupid comment
Do you understand what gus is on about
@@Paul-ik8fm Yes, of course, but he's complaining about the problems inherent to capitalism or a "free" market in a sport that essentially leveraged precisely that to garner the financial success it currently has over other sports within Australia. It's a stupid discussion to have because changing it now would require other clubs to essentially bankrupt themselves to invest in juniors that MIGHT pay dividends in 10 years time. They won't do that, or they would beg from the NRL who would essentially leverage the money from the big clubs who already invested in Juniors (and thus have an advantage) and this would basically even out any of the money "saved" by retaining juniors at a discount. Not only that, but it would require clubs to correctly identify talent sooner, which they clearly cannot do overly well, especially considering injuries and other poaching codes, etc. as well as the aforementioned "free market" capitalism that the NRL relies on. Once again, it is Captain Hindsight Gould telling people how he warned everyone ages ago, which we can't verify and we can't really change now, but it makes him look like some genius soothsayer. Typical Gus.
@organiccod2438 while I understand what you're saying, Gus is not a captain hindsight here. Very famous video floating around of him and Gallop going at it over the salary cap during Melbourne Storm's big drama back in the day
yes, it rewards a proper functioning system, something that rich teams like the Roosters and Storms completely ignore