Distance Carbine with Praecore and Counting Coup Tactical
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2:13 Course Overview
26:38 Recap
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With this current economy, I've started to shy away from a dedicated precision rifle, and just see what my 18 and 20" AR's can do at distance with 77gr SMK and dedicated optics. 5.56... the 6mm/6.5mm I have at home.
I think with the state of the world scoped carbine or distance carbine will continue to grow in importance.
@@jimmybrodriguezcouldn’t agree more. I’ve learned so much more working/learning “distance carbine” than I have with any other flavor of rifle competency thus far.
I have a bolt 6.5 and a decent amount of ammo. But same. I live in Pa, only time youll be getting 1000+yd sight lines is if youre somewhere you shouldnt be "tactically". 90% of the time you can maneuver and get within a few hundred yards of whatever you need too. Id much rather carry my 18" AR than my 6.5. Ive been tempted to sell it for the last 2 years.
The way you edited the audio to be family friendly is really tactful, didn’t expect that. Good stuff man.
I came here to say the same. Flawless audio editing
I took this class a few months back and it was well worth the resource investment. This is all about using a basic, everyday rifle with red dot/magnifier and standard ammo and getting hits on man sized targets out way further than most people would consider possible. The amount of knowledge and information between both Mike and Fred was impressive. Highly recommend attending one of their course offerings.
I agree man. The knowledge between these two instructors is insane.
Thanks for this upload. Very informative and interesting to many of us. Keep up the good work sir. 👍
I loved that section on sling usage. Honestly, even with an LPVO, unsupported position work is difficult, but being able to use a sling is something I've been trying to figure out myself.
loving all these vids!
THANKS FOR MORE CONTENT JIM!
🫡hope y’all enjoy it
There is some really good info in this video. Nothing crazy just fundamentally grounded work.
Thank you.
While we can all learn something from just about any level course, I think your skill and shooting ability was already well north of the topics covered in this starter course so I can completely understand why you struggled. For myself and many other people who were completely new to this, I think the course is really well done to take someone from shooting paper at 50 yards being the longest distance ever shot to well over 500 in 2 days while also putting a great amount of emphasis on fundamentals and other marksman core concepts.
Also wanted to add, as someone who was new to distance carbine before the Praecore course, it’s very intimidating to see other distance carbine courses offered via other instructors that require a scope. Due to the additional complexities and cost this was a great course to see what I could actually do with just my eotech and 3x magnifier. It was a great way to dip my toes into distance carbine with as little pre requisites in cost and equipment as possible and has now led me to a full nightforce atacr setup, attending other distance carbine courses as well as competitions in my area.
If you think this is applicable in your life or not, I think all information is important to help a person become more skilled in shooting.
Being a well rounded shooter is important and it doesn’t necessarily mean you have to be an expert at everything. Having foundational understanding will go a long way.
Awesome vid and thanks for sharing. I noticed at the end that you said your set up involves an LPVO rather than red dot and magnifier combo. I’m getting my first carbine and would like to use an LPVO as my primary optic, do you think this can work for beginners?
Absolutely. You'll have more capability with an lpvo, but some more weight.
@@JackManiacky Absolutely IF you know you'll routinely be shooting at 200+. If your shooting will be more like 100yds and in, a basic red dot or prism scope is perfectly adequate. I've been through a number of setups. Red dot, red dot + 3x magnifier, 1x prism, 1-4x LPVO, 1-8x LPVO, and various MPVO (2.5-15x, 3-9x, 4-16x). "More capability" in an LPVO, that's true. But if you never need the capability it's wasted energy, weight, etc. LPVOs can introduce a lot of weirdness in a new shooter. Like do I leave it on 1x and treat it like a red dot, but sometimes dial up magnification? If so, when do I dial up? And how far? Those can be confusing things for a new shooter. RDS is plenty basic and avoids those. Adding a 3x is a lot easier to handle, flip it in line or flip it out, no guesswork on what mag range. With most things, starting at a basic level and then working up in baby steps is the wisest path. I've never found success jumping straight into the deep end of things, it always results in bad habits that later have to be unlearned.
Damn I thought I was smart coming up with sticking my arm in the loop like that. This is good info though! Thank you!
Love your videos. That’s the issue with doing too many training classes. Everyone teaches different things that can go against what you already learned in another class. I’d rather just take 1 class and train what I learned in that class. Once you stagnate, you can then take a different class to work on your weaknesses. JMHO
Should not everyone being putting out the same information if its legitimate. If 10 different trainers are putting out different techniques, then NINE of them are wrong, now on the other hand if they all teach things that work, maybe any way you get the desired results is what matters and training in anything other than what you yourself invent, then those ten trainers are wasting yours and thiers time.
@@korbindallas3783 I don’t think that any of them are wrong, but they may be teaching different techniques based on their background. There is more than one way to shoot every stage that I have competed in. I have my ways based on my height (5’7”) and flexibility (very flexible). The key is to adapt the skills you learn for your shooting style based on your heigh, flexibility, equipment, etc.
Can you please do a video on how to setup that bipod pull tab?
Hey, on your spr rifle what scope and model are you using.....Oh also what barrel length.....Mahalo
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I have the scoped carbines, ammo etc, took a Bruiser Scoped Carbine Class but started there, haven’t done any close up carbine classes. Is there still merit for this class if you started long range and are coming in to closer distances?
Connor, let’s do a defensive carbine course. You have my number
@@moto_sauce shoot me a text if you figure out what class and when 👍🏻
Do you know if there are any affordable classes around Fresno, CA?
what distance did you zero at?
1:19 a doubles drill is a double drill it’s a staple training tool in anyone’s shooting schedule.
I may have missed it, but what sling was he using in the hasty sling demo?
loop sling demo*
Looked like a Vickers VCAS or similar. There's several slings that adjust with a slider like that and can be used in the same manner.
Teaching a shooting course in flip flops is WILD
Is that a seekins ph2 bolt rifle in the background???
Yessir video dropping on it soon
@@jimmybrodriguez awesome! You made a great choice!
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I see the golf bag tucked in the corner...hows the distance game with the clubs? Lol
7 handicap but haven’t played in a few months so probably much higher than that right now.
@@jimmybrodriguez Damn, Jim. That's some good pasture pool. Having been an 8 in my youth, I know what kind of dedication it takes to bust into single digits. I would wager it paid off when learning marksmanship -- the focus on little things, suppleness vs power, stability, efficiency. Control and consistency. Same in handgun or rifle marksmanship. And golf is all about reading terrain and wind when you're trying to throw it near the pin, or toward a spot on the fairway from the tee.
I'm not understanding how having glasses on or off will effect your impacts? If the eye pro "distorts" or "shifts" your perspective in any way it will "shift" everything you're looking at not just your reticle.
He saying if you zero with them on then shoot with them off you will experience a shift. His advice is to keep it consistent, if you zero with them on shoot with them on.
@@jimmybrodriguez yeah, I know what he's saying, I just don't see how it's going to affect your zero.
@@theLeadGin it doesn't unless you're looking out of the very corner of the lense. No different than trying to shoot something out of the very corner of the lense of a red dot. Get halfway decent behind the optic and not at the edge of your glasses and it will be fine. This whole course seems to be fraught with misnomers or at the least making a mountain out of mole hill type stuff.
@@codyhicks8291I agree, I just don't understand why these guys love to make basic things seem like rocket surgery. They did it with CQB now they're doing it with distance. 😂
I may be a bit autistic but not enough to get a consistent scope shadow with a magnifier 😂
for man-sized targets out to 600 yards, it doesn't have to be perfect. think in terms of evening-up a front sight post in a set of classic irons.
The flip flops are causing me physical pain
Train like you fight or something I dunno
Ah. Secret sauce and a video almost talking about it?
Man I just won’t to see rifle setups
Since you're making your way through long distance gas gun classes, you need to take a class with Buck Doyle sometime.
Probably won’t take a class with him. It’s a very expensive course with travel and ammo. From what I’ve heard and seen I don’t think I would gain anything from it that I haven’t got from the guys like Bruiser, Ridgeline, Praecore/counting coup, JBS, or Veracity Solutions. Additionally, I’m not personally a fan of needing a specific reticle for a class. I’d rather learn a skill set that applies across the board.
@@jimmybrodriguez very good points! It’s the only rifle course I’ve taken, so obviously I learned a ton. I’d really like to take a class with Bruiser or Ridgeline next, those seem like they are more my speed, especially after watching your videos on the courses.