Nik Airball left the latest HCL high stakes stream super early, leading to several others wanting to leave early as well. Andy, Rampage, and Jungle were stuck a lot $$$ and were not happy. Watch to see how this all played out!
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I don’t blame Andy if he never plays on there again and Nittuce was wrong for saying that
I agree, Nick shouldn't chime in there
I stopped watching hcl long time ago tbh
The audacity of Verdouchi to tell Andy that he's the one being unprofessional....
Nick V is always acting like a jerk and baby crying most of the time on table. Come on act like a man.
Verducci is a pos. And Jungle is to blame for this
Andy was always a 100% correct gentleman. never complains, never rants. this is the first time i saw him really upset. uncalled for by Nick to come back at him like he did.
Yeah It's interesting the politics of the private game world, but I think high stakes pros need to be more accommodating and smart about it, robl has latched onto jrb and is able to play in the biggest games because of his relationships he's cultivated, poker is so toxic when predators want nothing but money poker I feel needs to be more social and lively and even if you are trying to win you gotta give a little to get what you want
@@julianvigil5276yea. Definitely shows a dynamic u would never think about or realize. Like u would think since it’s in a casino it’s an open game. Imo They should make it more open with more straddles.
Nick would’ve said the same thing had he been in Andy’s shoes.
Yea id say not a good look when all the winners are gone and the 3 big losers (of the night) were the last ones sitting there. Crazy! They shoulda told everyone Nik and Santosh had to leave early and all this coulda been avoided. Maybe they need a new person running this shit.
Andy is completely in the right
No he not, they can leave whenever they want, it's not up to any of them, it's not there $
I love how Nick Vertucci says that Andy shouldnt air shit out on the stream... But he does so on twitter. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
@@darrellwilliams5657 You win and leaving the table in mid game? It's not ethical. Just as same as going south.
@@YouMoyaairball wasn't even up that much hes a bum at poker who probably didn't punt a few bullets
@@MatthewMonaco17 I'm talking about Martin.
Biggest life lesson here in Poker. Ppl at the table who you casually converse with for weeks, laughing at your jokes, sharing dinner with you, thinking they’re your friends, aren’t. When LOTS of money is involved and you’re trying to take it from the same person, I’m sorry.
True!
All these guys are scumbag
The guy is a seasoned pro. Im pretty sure he gets this concept.
You just know Garrett is loving this
Bruh hilarious. I was thinking along the same lines.
Biggest scumbag Garrett
Props to Rampage, Jungle, and Andy for holding up their end of the obligation.
Rampage ended up losing like 300k short handed 😂
I love jungle saying to rampage "you don't have to play me if you don't want to"
Andy was pissed off and rightfully so. What Nik did was super greasy. Nick V should just let Andy vent and stay out of it.
Power a hell of a drug
Well, he was threatening HCL publicly with not playing anymore if that happens again... Nick and/or Ryan kind of have to follow that up. Even though I prefer Andy way over Vertucci and extremely over airball, he is just in the wrong here. Jungle and Rampage handled it way better, even though Jungle lost more EV than Andy when they left
You are pretty damn naive if you do not understand that Nick and the HCL is a part of these private games.. HCL literally do only exist to attract wealthy wales to these private games.. What do you think they earn their money from.. Tips and youtube-revenue? LOL
@@christianschneider1499 Proper response was "These players are all adults and they can do what they want. If they want to go play another game, that's their business. We appreciate Andy's frustration, but it's not really in our control." It's not like HCL can do anything about it anyway. If you twist the arm of a high stakes player they'll just find a friendlier game.
I think Andy brings a lot of value to the game of poker as a whole. Hard to not empathize with him
Yeah, and I mean he's a beast. Last thing you wanna do is sit three handed in a broke game with that dude. That's why all of them racking after the whales go.
@@Jacob32905he absolutley sucks lol
@@Jacob32905he was a beast... Lately he has just been spewing the money he made on crypto and he s one of the main whales of this show
lol and Nick chiming in as cringe af
@@Jacob32905how do you call any of these guys whales? Who are you? Oh right, someone unheard of watching these guys for hours and talking shit about them. Get a life.
It feels like every day Nick Vertucci is trying to set a new speedrun record for how quickly he can say the completely wrong things
And it's left to Ryan Feldman to smooth things over .
dude has zero self awareness
Rampage should be offered a seat at all the best HCL games indefinitely after sticking around and playing 3 handed with Jungle and Andy.
I wonder if he would have stayed if he was 300k up instead of down
he was around even before hand
@@lmanzo87that’s kind of unfair. Rampage has never walked from the table as far as I know. Seems like a genuinely good guy who can enjoys playing and the experience as well. I honestly think he was trying to do right by Hustler and the other players as well as the fans watching.
Once Airball left I can understand why everyone else wanted to leave. He is the ATM at the table.
we all know its Santosh, Charles, Professor etc
Legend has it, to this day, Martin is still trying to get to that meeting....
It was is Santa Monica
He’s still in traffic
Meeting was at 6 pm, he left at 6:20. Meeting was the next day.
That dude was full of it 🛺
@@lstruggy we had a guy in Tampa who would always make up a story why he had to leave (after he won big), then he'd wander around the property for an hour and come back to minbuy
Andy had the right to say whatever he wants. He's always a class act.
Vertucci should actually be sticking up for Andy here! Wtf?! Vertucci owns the stream! Everyone leaves, that looks terrible for the stream… but hes mad at Andy, and not Airball??? Andy actually stayed to finish the stream! Thats so stupid….
Good for Martin btw… if he wants to pick up after the game gets bad, good for him
Hes not mad at nick airball because he played the same "private" game🤣💯hes mad at andy because he thinks its a "bad look" thee irony 🤣i KNOW💪🏾🔥
That means nitucci and Feldman have vested interest in the private games. Probably lots of cheating
Almost like Airball has something on Vertucci, Feldman, and Hustler....mmmmm, I wonder what he knows that allows him a free pass...mmmmmm. Any guesses. I'll give you a hint, it started when Airball mercilessly insulted Tal and Linglin. A certain player at that table went to HCL and got Airball suspended. Airball wanted revenge and....
Thanks for creating this, I heard about the drama but didn't want to sift through the livestream this is super helpful
I hope Martin made it to his Meeting in time 💰
Meeting on his couch . That fool aint got no where to go
was it full on hit and run or did he play for hours?
@@Itzyourcostco*whoosh*
Me too. I could tell he badly needed to have a conversation with some clever boys. I wouldn't want to keep someone from that.
Martin (Up 330K): "I need to go for meeting in Santa Monica. In my mind, I'm somewhere else on the meeting". Andy (Down 600K): "What's the meeting?" Martin: "Yeah ... like ... I need to discuss something with a very smart guy from here." Everybody: Mmmmm .... okay?
Airball is the biggest POS always laughing at players and talking shit after they get stacked. Especially the way he kept needling jungle is just uncalled for. Keep it up guy that’s why you’ll continue to run the way you do.
I give Andy credit for speaking up whenever he feels something is wrong. He had to talk to Ryan about Wesley buying in way short for one of their high limit games before.
Vertucci would tell his customers to shut it when they are talking about ethics
Guy got pissed at Andy instead of doing the decent think and agreeing with him and apologizing. For all his talk about ethics and honesty, vertucci is actually the world’s biggest scumbag. Never apologized or taken ownership for anything. And he has done many wrongs.
@@lotharheinz5481 i dont get why ryan and nick are supported this much.. they are shady and lame .. they just have a big platform but are highly unethical.. just look at the gman robbie fiasco
Too bad Ryan had to parter up with Vertucci.
Stacks is right, and Vertucci is greasy af for what he said.
nick is garbage of a human being
Nah, the first part is right. If it is true with the private game, it shouldn't happen. But still, no one is entitled to them staying. The second part threatening HCL is not professional
@@christianschneider1499 Vertucci put the grease in greasy.
@@christianschneider1499professional? WTF does he have to be professional?? I think what he did was extremely professional, this is for entertainment and what he said was just that and quite frankly needed to be said. You can’t keep letting snakes be snakes in these games. You gotta get over yourself buddy😂
I caught the end of the stream and was wondering what happened. Thanks for the video explaining everything.
Nik Airball is the the most toxic player. Who keeps inviting him to these games? And why is this channel giving Airball spotlight?
Are you on drugs? 😅😂😅.. Nik is what makes this channel. Who would watch without him. 😅😂😅.. please seek psychiatric help
Cause it gives them views, and the channel knows if
cause he is a donk and a fish.
Because hes down a couple dozen houses and is part of the reason the game even runs in the first place.
He gets invited back because he's a massive whale and the games are built around him
I think my favorite thing was seeing my boy Rampage stick it thru for as long as physically possible to keep the stream entertaining. Sad to see he lost so much but Jungle is TOUGH heads up so props to him for even sticking around
I think he knows playing Jungle heads ups who has the edge, But i think he also knows its great content for him. But yeah Jungle is one of the best forsure.
Andy is the best and is absolutely right! Nick is a something of a tyrant.
its just fucin stream, he doesnt qualify to be a tyrant
@@JL-ej3xu wannabe tyrant
First and foremost this fuck up is on Ryan. Since he had foreknowledge of early departures he was pretty much obligated to let everyone know such info. Seat time absolutely matters. Also, did Ryan upon be advised of early departures make any effort to locate others to keep the game going? It sounds like he had several hours to work on this.
lol how naive are you? The stream literally only exist to attract wealthy wales to the private games, off the stream.. This is what Ryan and Nick do for their living.. :D
that guy is lowkey shady too..
@@andersnielsen6044 pretty much... just look how they promote super-whales like Reza, Santosh, the black guy with the cap I just don't remember. Don't wanna know the practices that Feldman and scummyNic have to let pros play whales. Its probably big $$$
@@flex2125Ryan and everyone else in LA
@@davidstud3952Krish
great recap/comentary about the situation! please keep it up :D
Airball is the biggest fish in the game, without him there is no HCL.
At these stakes and with certain players, the politics, just like Andy said, comes into play. If they agreed to play for a certain amount of time, it should be known to everybody. Probably didn't want to tell them because others might not have played. Andy no doubt wouldn't have. These high stakes invite or private games have a lot more seriousness and etiquette than a casual stakes game out on the floor. Martin just bullshitted his way out. I definitely can side with Andy here.
Yep or maybe Andy would have played less splashy from the beginning if he knew everyone would be leaving lol
That’s bs man not only did they not say if Andy knew you think he would have taken the early risky calls all while Nik and santhosh for that matter playing tight when they never do
Likely why Nick was playing tight instead of usual. Because he knew he was leaving early so wouldn't be able to come back if he donked like usual
Andy and ball are on live right now they haven’t spoken a word to each other
its only about the whale leaving, no one is sour that a pro (Martin) is leaving.
They should have alternate players who are available to come fill the void
Btw I didn’t see the end part how much did rampage loose to jungle playing heads up?
I agree with Andy. If you agree to go on stream, you should only leave if you have a set amount to lose stated at beginning of the game or state your stay before action starts. So happy that santos and Airball booked losses on the 24 hr stream
if you watched the whole thing rampage said that he was told by ryan that santosh was going to leave early. Nik was already being a nit and wasnt giving any action and being salty so he just followed santosh.
Missed your content brother! Glad to see you back.
Martin played really well, up 330k and left when the game got bad. Amazing
Smart move. I don’t blame him. He read the room and hit the ejection button while up. Blame it on those who destroyed the game
Wait .... what? I thought he had a "meeting" to get to. 🤔
doesn't matter ONE BIT what you say at the table. You NEVER have to give the money back@@michaelg4664
I NEVER noticed this happened on this stream since I tuned in late, wow
How about Nittucci pony up 500k in the high roller stream, go down -500k and watch everyone leave the table! I bet he handles it worse than Andy did!
Are there different rules for this game from other cash games ie players can leave whenever they want?
In todays stream when santhosh got there dj says he through a private party and santhosh was there confirmed the fact why nik played tight and left to private game it was bs yesterday Andy wouldn’t do that
Glad you are back
I am starting to think HCL is losing its illustrious place in the eco, and an upstart stream with the foresight to avoid repeating its mistakes is on the horizon.
Agreed, Nick Vertucci’s ego is out of this world and he alone will sink the ship. Besides that, the game has had multiple scandals with more than 1 player being exposed as a cheat or scam artist as of today with Mars and Ryusuke revelations. The fact G-man has boycott it says a LOT about the games integrity now. In general I feel like the game has evolved into a much more toxic environment for the players, and it’s gone from being entertaining to being a shit show.
It lost it a long time ago
The classic hit and run 🤣🤣🤣
How much did Jungle take of Rampage at the end?
I've seen this many times. The big fish leaves and the game breaks. Although my $2-5 tables are not live streamed.
Would be a good idea to have a few backup players in the wing incase of this kind of situation. Makes sense to me, why should i be forced to play if someone is down a bunch of money LOL.
When you play on stream, you are suppose to play until stream is over. Unless u cant re buy. In regular cash game who cares if u leave.
The ending😂😂💪🏽
Andy almost is at the level where he should start playing tournament more often.
I think generally poker etiquette is to play for X amount of hours which is agreed upon. Hit and run is always skummy.
Depends how wealthy each person is tbh
“Do you think we’re not smart? Is that why you’re leaving?” Rampage with the zingers!
The home game thing is wild
rampage is a real one for staying
Andy is one of the most consistent people on HCL, he brings value to the stream. Imagine this : Your having a birthday party and your friends come and after they eat your cake and food, before you open the presents, they all leave without you to goto the bar. I’d be furious and he just look 600k….
That Nick's response to Andy is gonna backfire to his ass soon or later
where can i watch this? jungle rampage and andy 3 handed would be awesome to watch
Link to full stream in description
Every online table ever 😂 soon as the fish leaves
thats why they need to implement a time limit like 3 hrs minimum to play for all the hit and running trash. i ran a 1.2 game for 15 yrs and thats how i made sure to keep most everyone happy. or implement a 30 min rule where u can only cash out b4 announcing 30 min that ur leaving. Because eventually nobody wants to play with the people that hit and run.
For this type of broadcast games, the rules should be clear to start with. Players should be informed that they have to play a certain number of hours before leaving if they are to be invited at the table. Pass that time limit, they could leave regardless of their chip situation. The broadcaster should provide replacement players if they plan on keeping the game going pass the minimum time limit to protect themselves from this type of debacle.
It's only a matter of time before this all breaks out
He was definitely correct to feel the way he did and I hope being honest while mic'd up doesn't hurt the games he can get into
We all know that cash poker games in a casino a player is allowed to leave whenever they want. That said, Live Stream being a whole new world, it is on HCL to protect their games and implement LiveStream Rules. Players must commit to a minimum of play time (unless they are down 2 min buys or more) and have a reliable backup bench waiting. If a player tells HCL ahead of time "I have to leave at 5pm it is on HCL to decide if their action is still worth it, announce it to the table at the start, and have backup players to step in. Even new blood on the outside dying to play on stream. I used to play in a home game where nobody was allowed to leave in the first 4 hours unless 2 min buys or more down. It was something agreed by all before the game even started and it was kinda nice that a guy couldn't run over the game for an hour then pack up and leave.
Wow if an entire game breaks when one person leaves, it says a lot
I mean I know Andy’s point was right, but letting the whale like santoh do whatever he wants to do is part of the game. You can’t keep taking away their money and don’t entertain them and ask them to stay. You wanna play poker for living? Fine. Just know how to entertain the fish, and let them keep playing.
Rampage should have done tournament style heads up I think. 15 minutes for 15k and then start again maybe if no one else joins. Whoever wins more chips in the time wins the money could be fun. Maybe 20 minutes instead since you at least get 3-5 hands
Rampage stayed because he’s one of the few legit players left.
What’s the incentive for people to be on HCL other than social media exposure? Is some portion of their buy-in covered by the owners?
Ego
@@mirade1 hmmm... the owner of HCL seemed to imply some kind of deal with the players exists by his actions.
well, Airball and Andy are playing together right now in another HCL big game, so I guess the drama didnt last 24 hours
Yo Alex any live poker vlogs coming? Although I appreciate some poker drama every now and then, I would much rather watch you crush some live poker or just goof off at the tables. I really enjoyed the all in episode. Peace.
I’ve been posting live poker shorts, check them out! Also looking for a way to improve quality of vlogs before I start posting them again.
if we asked 10,000 people to rank who they like most out of Nick and Andy. Zero people would pick Nick. Dude needs a reality check
Question is will Nick Air and Santosh leave early for the home game if they were down by a few hundred Gs?
They shouldn't invite players who aren't willing to play. Getting busted should be the only excuse.
Where is that video of rampage talking about it being a mistake that he played jungle?
*FunFact* Martin's meeting was with Russ Hamilton
No, with me... I'm very smart. :]
Well done.
Andy is 100% in the right. Nik is a scum bag. Scalps the whale to go hustle in a home game. Classless brother
Verdushie really gonna take sides he should shut up
Nothing wrong with Andy being upset santosh and Nik both action
i think the commentators should’ve apologized on behalf of HCL to viewers for the game breaking. I, as a consistent viewer, looked forward to the game but was highly disappointed when people just left the table.
So you can't leave when you want just because that dude on the end is down a bunch of $. Why do they HAVE to stay? IS the rule you can't leave until everyone is eve.?
Bad etiquette from Airball , Andy is completely right in calling this out !!
lol those screen shots of vertucci at the end are hilarious, guys a joke
Wait Airball left up? Is it the fact that he left up or that he left early?
no1 loaning jungle 100 started this weird vibe i felt like
😂😂 rampage “Do you think we’re not smart?” Martins excuse was such bullshit
It was brilliant 😂 smh the game was broken and that’s on Feldman
Martin is a businessman he has to deal with businessman meetings with businessmen
Maybe if they fixed the door, people would want to play.
HCL is starting to break my heart.. game was 2 big.. cant handle the emotions for the players.
With Vertucci's attitude, HCL's going down the drain. First Garrett now Andy.
Everyone was there to take Nick Aliball’s money, if he’s not being the table sucker or leaves the game ends. Nick is down $8,000,000 and they expected him to increase it $12,000,000 That is all I saw.
People that say you can leave anytime are just making excuses for being scumbags and hit and running. If i'm winning I always give a good heads up and try to keep the game going, especially in a home game setting. Casino is different but it's still bad etitiquite to hit and run and you should treat others the way you want to be treated. If I lose a buy in or two I want a chance to get it back so If I win it off others I"m not just gonna take off and let the game suffer. I've been at casinos where a person hit and running has ruined the game even at a casino. If everyone did it then cash game poker would simply not exist. The same thing that happened last night would happen every single time if people made a habit of this without replacement players
The difference isn't they left, they left to play at a private game, not the same thing.
People like you who shame hit and running in casino games, are the same people that nit it up for an hour after winning and block the seat from legit action, because you're too scared to be disliked and just leave.
@@Andrew-yf3lu i don't care if people hit and run me. people shouldn't care if they hit and run some no action pro. but if a fun players gets mad by a hit and run don't hit and run him.
Please please please please please please keep inviting Martin keep him in country and let him play and tilt these f****** clowns. I want to see Airball freak out on him for doing the same stupid stuff he does to other people
Well this might be the beginning of the end of HCL
Rampage also plays super tight but no one seems to have any issue with that?
He was NOT playing super tight let alone tight lol
@@AlexDuvall lol okay. To each his own.
HCL is finally on the the downhill and honestly haven’t watched since G Man got robbed
Lol got robbed..you mean got his soul shattered by a twat 😂
Martin was caught cheating, i thought.
I think Santoosh and airball being invited back to the 24hr stream is pretty gross on managements end.
WTF is Nick saying, They let that shit happen on there show, in there game, that they host. Its wild they even let it happen
5:43 the way someone just threw their chips at martin got me weak
in some private games you wouldnt have gotten to the door...
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Didn’t Nik tell Pepe off for leaving early?
What's the meeting?? "Yeah...uhhh...I need to discuss something with someone..." Wow I would of called him a liar right to his annoying face.