how to weld thin square pipe joints 90 degrees precision for beginners
2022 ж. 17 Қар.
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how to learn angle welding on thin square pipe plate joints.
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how to learn angle welding on thin square pipe plate joints.
This video is not to teach or patronize but just to share experiences. hopefully useful and hopefully healthy friends 🙏
No kidding you don’t know the difference between tube steel and pipe.
Na koliko ampera se postavlja aparat za ovakve cevi?
Ещё большой угол наклона электрода,поэтому на концах были поры.В верхнем остром конце лучше сделать пропил диском двоечкой и варить горизонтом,а не вертикалом.
@@genagoga6185а что от того что если будут поры или нет, качество сварки изменится или это повличет на что то 😂. Вода потечёт..
@@mio-gh1wkтак можно и "винограда "насрать,то же держать будет.
Lots of comment here about whether this method provides sufficient penetration and strength, and how welds must always be continuous. Wrong. In fact the widely practiced, and accepted, method of joining thin sheet metal for auto body repair is a serious of MIG tack welds. I would welcome a test-to-failure demonstration of the strength of the welds shown here compared to the superior methods claimed in the comments. No doubt a precision TIG weld would win, but I suspect that a lot of us have made continuous welds that we think are hugely stronger, but aren’t. The other issue is product application. We make decisions every day as to the appropriate strength of joined materials. That slender piece of wood trim is attached with a tiny, slender nail that is “weak” but provides the necessary strength and appearance; that wall is framed with 16-penny nails fired by a big nailer. No, I sure as hell wouldn’t use the welding method here for an aircraft engine mount, but for a table stand with welds ground smooth for appearance the rod arc welding shown here would be indestructible. Anyone who welds should know the principles of heat, speed, penetration and strength, especially for crucial applications. But to immediately dismiss what is shown here based on theory without empirical proof is bad science.
Agreed. Many people on here don't know what theyre talking about.
MIG tacking, not stick tacking. Big difference
Those "test-to-failure demonstrations" are done all the time in welding schools, and I'm sure there are plenty on KZhead. They show conclusively that these welds are weaker. What he does here is fine for something that doesn't bear a load. He's contaminating the puddle with flux again and again. He's heating, cooling, heating, cooling...again and again. You can not get away from physics--the weld will be more brittle than a continuous bead, even if he were to magically get the same penetration. MIG doesn't use flux and thin auto body sheet metal is welded for appearance, not strength. I don't think the MIG comparison works. I admit that I am a terrible welder, so take my comments with a grain of salt.
@@darinclay6838 Those are good points, and it sounds like our welding skills are similar. Every time I make a weld that might actually hold two pieces of steel together for a few hours I stare at it in amazement. I have seen those weld test vids but not one that looks at this oddball method specifically.
Muy buen detalle de como soldar una unión con caños finos a 90°. EXCELENTE !!!! Gracias !
Obrigado pela dica. Na próxima, mostre a amperagem da máquina.😉
Не хватает 4-й скорости для просмотра такого пустого контента.Надо же,растянуть минутный видос на 5.44 мин.Респект,и ещё полляма просмотров набрал!Просто Спилберг!!
Ещё и с двумя огрызками труб, показал бы с большой конструкцией как её крутить вокруг своей оси !!!
@@user-jp1jq1pc4z Прихватываешь посильнее фиксирующий кусок трубы, чтобы не развалилась вся конструкция и крути вокруг своей оси. Или обходи и подлезай со всех сторон. В чём проблема?
Уже лям просмотров с хвостиком! Спилберг просто отдыхает!🤣🤣🤣
@@remont_kvartir_v_samare УЖЕ 1,5 ЛЯМА)))
@@user-jp1jq1pc4z да оленевод он, а не сварщик, (учитель блин..)
This seems to run a bit contrary to things I was shown when I worked with experienced engineers in a workshop - Use magnet then g clamps or f clamps to hold in place - tack the 2 outside corners then the 2 inside corners and then weld the outside line first then the 2 outside to inside lines then the inside line last
There’s a hundred ways to do it
@mckyvr The way you say it is what I was taught long ago--the metal is less likely to warp. I'm not a good welder, but I remember the lesson well, "An ugly, strong weld is way better than a pretty, weak weld, but if you practice, you don't have to choose." This method of doing lots of little tack welds is catching on because the welds look nice, but if you're doing anything that requires strength, you'll be disappointed with the results. The guy making the vid has other work where he does structural welds and does them right, but if you are just doing some ornamental work, then this is fine.
I would tack the corners, then weld the outside corner ( the least pull), then the sides starting in to out and finally the inside corner ( this has the most pull).
Cómo se llama esa pieza Para cuadrar
@@fredymoralesfigueroa3284escuadra
Fiou top top... qual a AMPERAGEM que vc usou para fazer essa solda parceiro?
Y que electrodo uso
Qual tipo de amperagem ta usando nesse tipo de metalom ,so por curiosidade. Mas ficou muito .
60 amp
Que dimensiones tiene ese estructural cuadrado?
Вообще-то если так разбираться то так варить нельзя. Так варят. Но деформация метала будет, поэтому швы делают с разных сторон и желательно не полный для снятия напряжения в метеле.
Ещё большой угол наклона электрода,поэтому на концах были поры.В верхнем остром конце лучше сделать пропил диском двоечкой и варить горизонтом,а не вертикалом.
Интересно получается, что значит угол проварить не полностью? И отопление так варить будешь?))) Автор всё сделал для того, что бы удержать угол.
Question, What was your welder settings on for this weld?
Where it makes sparks.😄
Disculpe que electrodo usa?
Excelente demostración
Esas escuadras magnéticas son una belleza
Grscias ,,gracias ,gracias por enseñarnos ,,,Diós te cuide y proteja siempre
Gracias por la enseñanza
Qual a amperagem?
По моему даже начинающий сварщик знает, что варить можно: 1 - без поперечной трубы, достаточно иметь магнит и ровную поверхность; 2 - противоположные швы накладываются в противоположном направлении; 3 - перед наложением шва смежного с предыдущим (швы смыкаются концами) нужно отбивать шлак с уже наложенного; 4 - перед наложением швов прихватки делаются сразу со всех сторон
Что такое "призывники"? Я не сварщик, но интересно.
@@UlexPapov это опечатка, уже исправлено
@@St.Eg. Спасибо. Теперь понятно. А то я думал, что это что-то мне незнакомое из терминологии сварщиков :)
@@UlexPapov 😁
А то, что при сварке применяются краги, а не вязаные перчатки сварщик знает? И почему? А еще, если уж приспичило закреплять помимо магнита и прихваток, есть какой-то инструмент, название начинается на "струб" и заканчивается на "цины", говорят, он доступен не только опытным сварщикам. А еще непонятно, зачем магнит вообще, если соединять допустимо с точностью до 90 градусов? Да я с помощью простого угольника точность в 10 градусов обеспечу на глаз!
Hola felicidades por el video, tengo una duda es recomendable soldar con varilla gruesa o delgada tubo perfil de 2 milímetros
Lo "ideal" es que el tamaño del electrodo sea igual o menor que el espesor de la chapa a soldar. Por lo tanto deberías usar electrodo de 2mm. Se puede soldar tranquilamente con uno de 2.5mm, pero requiere de mas experiencia porque necesita mas amperaje y por lo tanto desarrolla mas temperatura pudiendo hacerse "huecos" que luego hay que rellenar.
@@MartinLopez-nt9kcexactamento
Qual amperqgem usa? E qual eletroudo?
C'est trop beau la soudure quand c'est bien foutu 👍😁
Всеравно потянуло метал Потомучто в конце ролика не показал как проверил угол.Метал такая вещь нету Трех точек опоры значить ДЕФОРМИРУЕТ
Конечно, уголком зря не проверил итог, да. Но потянуть не должно было за счёт прихваченной диагонали.
Good vídeo, inverter machine? How do you calc amperes? Electrode type?
Very satisfing to watch,, I use this technique with our MIG welder
Thanks brother
Continuous weld, turn the amps down or speed up or both. Don't weld like this latest internet trend, you will not get any penetration. Welds like that on something structural could kill someone. Learn to weld properly.
show us then on how to weld properly
I think this kind of welding is fine for something decorative- I would use wire if rods kept burning through. I have trouble getting rods started at lower amperage settings.
@@TheMarpalm With wire I'm having no trouble doing a continuous weld on pipe like this (I'm a self taught crappy welder).
@@dudeb5610 There are hundreds of videos on KZhead on how to weld properly far better than me, but if you want me to show you hop on a bus, I am a coded welder . My point is don't show people how to do something unless you are qualified to do so. Monkey see's, monkey does. If someone copies that style to weld a car for eg that weld will fail and they could kill themselves or someone else. How would you feel if members of your family died because some Burk with a welder bodged his suspension up and crashed into another car on the first bend in the road he came across due to weld failure . You've only got to read all the comments on here. " Thanks excellent job"
@@kaasmeester5903 I am the same. Wire seems to be the way to go on thinner stuff like this.
Muchas gracias por su enseñanza
MUY HECHO EL TRABAJO SOLO FALTA ALGO MUY IMPORTANTE... EL EQUIPO DE SEGURIDAD PERSONAL EN EL EQUIPO Y GUATES DE TRABAJO
Cierto, la guarda del esmeril es importante
Bnyak cara..tapi sama tujuannya ya bang. Terima ksi bnyak. Sudah ksi pembedaan dari yng lain 👍🤝
Y porque cuando soldo en angulo de90 al terminar se tuerse se descuadra o se enchueca
wow. beautiful work. Thank you for sharing your skills.
are you his colleague, friend or maybe partner?? do you really like what he did?? seriously this is a beautiful job for you?? either you're in love with him or you're blind, and you're definitely ignorant because you can't see the complete fucked up work done by an ignorant with a big ego everyone I know after seeing a fragment of this film asked what kind of child did it, because a grown man was ashamed to show it complete shame and you still say great job... did he give you a blowjob??
@@tjguzik I tried to do what he did in the video but couldnt. His way looks ok for what I want even if is not up to your pedantic standards. Now, go make your bed and stop being stupid to people.
Как вариант. Но если хотите чем то поделиться, поясните толщину стали, силу тока, марку электрода.
Толщина 1.5-2мм, 80-100 ампер
Grind adjoining edges to give the weld more surface to burn to!
Thanks
когда искал инфу каким электродом варить , попадалось что до 3 мм метал варится электродом 2-2.5 , а у вас 3 мм , так каким все таки электродом луче и проще варить метал 2.5 мм ? сколько ампер и где + сидит ? можете сказать ?
Лучше и проще будет полуавтоматом и проволкой 0,8 мм.
That was awesome!
Protección?
Winkelüberprüfung???? Ich garantiere, dass der sich verzogen hat!
Trotz der angeschweißten Diagonale?
Das Problem an der Sache ist, dass man von innen nach außen Schweißt, dass die Wärme nach außen geleitet wird. Hier falsch gezeigt. Zum anderen die Kehlnaht welche für den Verzug verantwortlich ist, da hier das meiste Material vorliegt und viel Wärme speichert. Ich habe Winkel auf dem Schweißtisch gefertigt die festgespannt waren. Auch hier gibt es trotzdem leichten Verzug. Es kommt immer auf das Material an, was man schweißt. Schweißen und komplettabkühlen lassen kann auch zu Verzug führen trotz verspannen. Besser geht das als Viereck aber auch dort kann je nach Größe Verzug auftreten je länger die Seiten werden. Das sieht man ab einer bestimmten Länge wo sich das Material leicht nach innen durchbiegt. Hier hätte er am Ende kontrollieren sollen statt Daumen hoch....ich hätte Wetten können...
Спасибо тебе молодец
Excelente queda reforzado
Thanks brother 🙏
Thanks for sharing. I believe that is 16g steel, what electrode are you using here? Thanks
A pesar de que no eres soldador profesional te quedó bueno.
яким фільтром для камери ви користуєтесь?
Wszystko bardzo dobrze. Lecz przy szlifowaniu musi być osłona na szlifierce👍
love this guy pls upload more and continue to share thanks
You're welcome
Неплохо для начала. Все начали правильно, поставили мост . Варить надо углом назад тогда будет обратный валик , да и попробуйте основными , от рутиловых шлака много .
Tengo esta escuadra magnética, la mas grande. Y el problema que tengo es que tiene tanta fuerza el imán que no queda la soldadura, tengo que hacer 2 o 3 puntos y después sacarla porque es como que el caño rechaza el material de aporte por el imán.
claro porque son solo para hacer puntos sino te desvía el arco
@@unomismo4510 Wow! cosas que ni se imagina uno, pero tienen sentido! 🤔
depende mucho del peso del material, si es para union de tubos delgados y poco pesados es mejor usar los imanes mas pequeños, Otro punto, es que el iman jala la soldadura, Pero si tienes buena calidad electrica, es mas sencillo de controlar ese incoveniente, saludos.
Tengo el mismo problema.!!!😁
I'm still learning but continuous weld on thin metal? penetration? Burning a hole is what you'd like to prevent ain't it?
Try to pulseweld if your weldingmachine is able to do, this is also possible with stick welding ( if you have the equipment )
Yes, this technique he is using is to prevent burn through which will happen if trying to do a continuous bead on thin wall.
Hi if we want Make Square we have to weld Four sides???
Uh…….huh?????
You have to make it square when you tack it. Before the welding. That’s why he put the brace there to keep it from distorting/warping
Why do you make single spots instead of one bead?
doing one bead causes metal to get hotter which will result in burn through. Spot/tack welding allows a thick bead as long as you do it while the bead is still hot.
Because this is thin wall steel, it WILL burn through regardless of which amps you are using.
una observacion, no hay que soldar con guantes de algodon es peligroso mejor usar los adecuados.
If it is stainless material ?
Hola, ¿puedes darme las dimensiones para hacer un ángulo recto redondeado por favor, gracias?
Muchas gracias por el video… 🎉
No es mejor hacer costura que puntadas?
Rod किती mm चा आहे?
2,6 mm brother
Ampere??? And 6013 2.5m ??
I always imagined I should do it this way😎.
Thanks brother 🙏
Ótimo
A ver si entendí. Osea que aconsejas soldar un PTR cal 14 punto tras punto? En el cal 14 me los aviento corridos los cordones🙄
Carnal, el PTR es Perfil Tubular Redondo, y en el video creo no es redondo 😅
@@brianpatino4123 pensé q era perfil tubo rectangular
Good work 👍👍
Cuanto de amperaje sueldas, soldé con 40 y hice hueco :(
Eso no sirve pues el magnetismo de la escuadra no permite soldar con presicion .la escuadra magnetica solo es para puntear despues ay que sacarla .
That magnet is ok to make tacks but even then it can be a pain because well the electrode is steel. I've just started using magnets, really good for keeping angle true but can be a pain when the electrode sticks to the workpiece when trying to tack.
Muito bom
Cómo se llama el electrodo para soldar perfiles delgados?
Puedes usar 3/32 en 6013
какие электроды использовал ?....и какой ток сварки ?..
i spot like this.i dont do full weld cause the wire of my holder will get hot easily
I think the title should be: how to weld to look like a beginner.
Or how about. How not to weld for beginners. No matter how thin the steel is.
В смысле как? Берешь полуавтомат и варишь с прихватками. Делов на 2 минуты. А эта парнуха с не проваром, это только для вида.
amp?
80amp brother
EXELENTE PARABENS
Cheers. I agree but it n site we all know everyone is in a hurry and for that weld to do it nicely like this isn’t always possible. Has anyone else ever worked as a welder for a company and your supervisor doesn’t know anything about metal and where you should weld and where a weld would actually weaken the structure not add to its strength. Or they want you welding over paint and grease and shit. I put up with it for a year then my pride returned and I went to a proper shop again. Lol. Maintenance welding for a Ready Mix Plant is pure hell.
Esta muy fuerte esa eléctrica
Специалисты, это хорошая техника сварки?
Диаметр электрода 2, какая фирма сварки?
What is the angle length.??
Отличный метод.
А в чем состоит метод-то?
Thanks brother 🙏💖
Excellent job.
Очень крассива и качественно 👍👍👍👆Браво!!!
What Amper user, please?
80amper brother, e6013 2,6mm
si no sabes molar como vas a saber soldar no debes clavar la mola al perfil porque cuando lo pintas se ve todas las marcas de la mola llevo 44 años soldando y creo que te falta experiencia
This is not how you weld. You need to keep the pool liquid to get proper penetration and to keep the weld air tight. There isn't a welder in the world that would do it like this.
Well my friend there are and they're posting on you tube, so lerners who don't know better think it's all good to weld and then grind of what weld there is and leave a weakened section of very thin steel. Might be 1.2.. but after that spotty job and then grind it of might be lucky if there's 0.8mm of steel left on that tacked section.
@@b.p.rwebber8098 that's true. Good welds don't need grinding. They're like art. I've seen stick welds so beautiful it made my mouth water. Merry Christmas☺️🎄
Kawatnya pake merk apa om
Merek nk bang
Vous avez d'autres vidéos ??
Next brother
Que número de electrodo es ese
2013
Step 1: use a mig gun 🤣 Should tack the outside corner first, after tacking on the 1"x1" tube brace. Also, this isn't going to be as strong as a normal bead. At the shop I worked for we used 1/2" square bar as supports for everything.
Incorrect. Using low feed gives less material thus making it weak. Using faster feed(when using mig) keeps material thick and tack welding while the bead is still hot is just as good as a normal bead line. This is how you weld thin metals, like when doing automotive work.
No
как всегда в комментах больше и полезней информация !)))
I did not know that charles chaplin in his time had published videos of his secret passion for welding :)
Без фаски, да еще после зачистки сварочный шов в фольгу преврвщается...
I never make 45 when I'm doing a 90. I always cut the pieces to interlock. It's much stronger and a lot less chance of distortion.
Sorry, what do you mean by "enter lock"?
@@aaronsorensen7137criss-crossed...
А где советы по электродам?? И силе тока??
Yo a la primera perforó el perfil 😢 jejeje
Maravilha
And again, someone who doesn't need a protective guard on his angle grinder! Extreme dangerous and unbelievable painful when something goes wrong.
Guards aren’t always possible most of us take them off right away. The guard is a complete obstruction but at the same time if you’re using a Zip disk type cutting wheel and it breaks, it could rip your damned throat apart. That did happen here in Ontario to a guy I worked with his neck was all scarred up and after getting to know him he told me how it happened in two words. Zip Disk.
Itu pake api berapa kalo boleh tau?
Варить нужно всегда наружу, не внутрь угла .
bukankah kalo gerindra itu ga boleh tipis ya? maksudnya gerindra yg bagus itu las dagingnya ga boleh habis.. CMIIW 🙏
Tergantung material bang
@@kuliwelding7056 berarti kalo material tipis Gerindra nya juga kudu rata ya om? maaf pemula 🙏
Обычно я так и варю, только я не сварщик.
Por qué soldas asi???? Tienes problemas con el amaperaje de tu máquina. Por qué no soldas continuo??? Un solo hilo de unión??? Esa soldadura no resiste. No hay fundición profunda entre fierros.
Так вариться точково щоб не пропалити профіль
Friend How Many AMPS Do You Have It ??? Amén.