Black smearing VA vs IPS

2020 ж. 17 Жел.
132 300 Рет қаралды

Comparison between an AOC CU34G2X overdrive medium and an Asus PG279Q overdrive normal.
The screens are side by side and filmed with an iPhone XS in slow motion.
Black smearing is more or less visible depending on the case.
We can also see the ghosting on UFO test
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Comparaison entre un AOC CU34G2X overdrive medium et un Asus PG279Q overdrive normal.
Les écrans sont cote à cote et filmé avec un Iphone XS en slow motion.
Le black smearing est plus ou moins visible en fonction des cas.
On peut aussi voir le ghosting sur UFO test

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  • I like the VA contrasts and i like the IPS fluidity... solution = OLED but it's too much money :(

    @giuseppeignone9481@giuseppeignone9481 Жыл бұрын
  • VA have a ghosting problem but I like the black color in the VA more than the ips

    @f.b.i.1601@f.b.i.16013 жыл бұрын
  • I dont know whats worse black smearing or blacks being gray on an IPS

    @vgamedude12@vgamedude122 жыл бұрын
    • And IPS glow on top of that

      @westernrev9628@westernrev96282 жыл бұрын
    • They're both shit, and you should never settle for less. If you experience these ask for a refund. It's 2022, and manufacturers shouldn't be gettin' away with this shit. Askin' premium prices for garbage products.

      @Sleepless4Life@Sleepless4Life Жыл бұрын
    • @@Sleepless4Life VA is better, IPS looks like washed out trash next to a VA panel and I've seen this in a shop as well

      @dariomladenovski6481@dariomladenovski6481 Жыл бұрын
    • @@dariomladenovski6481 but does the black smearing always happen on a VA monitor? I'm thinking of getting a 1440p 144Hz VA monitor, would that make it better? And yeah IPS has grey as black which is disappointing

      @jordyhitty@jordyhitty Жыл бұрын
    • @@jordyhitty grab the Samsung G7...no smearing...but it maybe have some QA issues though

      @shaolin95@shaolin95 Жыл бұрын
  • So much money into the monitor market and yet they fight between each technologies and STILL we consumers can't get a definitive solution! I need color accuracy but having good blacks are also a requirement in my book....it affects so much the overall image that no matter how accurate the color is if the black look gray how the hell am I suppose to know I'm adding the good tones of grays and blacks... do I really need to buy one IPS and one VA? LUL.

    @GatsuRage@GatsuRage2 жыл бұрын
  • There's sort of effective workaround by lowering the black levels by adjusting gamma or Nightvision mode, that way you can kinda turn VA into IPS panel (it becomes just as washed out as IPS with little to no black smearing), in that regard VA turns out to be more versatile when you play with settings, whereas IPS could not achieve blacks or vibrancy of VA.

    @Deiwulf@Deiwulf5 ай бұрын
    • What the heck, It completely fixed the issue. How is no-one talking about this. With this fix what advantages does ips actually have?

      @jerrytpl@jerrytpl4 ай бұрын
    • @@jerrytpl which gamma radio fixed it? 2.2 or 2.0?

      @endulus.@endulus.4 ай бұрын
    • @@endulus. I'm not sure what you're talking about but I set it to 1.1 Gama and upped the brightness in the nvidea control panel and it got rid of the smearing entirely.

      @jerrytpl@jerrytpl4 ай бұрын
    • Wait SERIOUSLY??

      @webbedshadow2601@webbedshadow26013 ай бұрын
    • ​@@jerrytpl Could you please elaborate and does IPS cause strain on eyes. And which setting did you change in VA?

      @gamekriss@gamekriss22 күн бұрын
  • I'm really thinking about going back to an IPS panel. I can't enjoy using freesync in games without seeing the smearing in games. Text is tolerable but noticeable when scrolling.

    @ragingsilver@ragingsilver3 жыл бұрын
    • That's why i still stick to the IPS panel today. (Use as a PC monitor)

      @user-hk3iw5qu1r@user-hk3iw5qu1r2 жыл бұрын
    • Long live IPS, until OLED takes over, and I, for one, will welcome our OLED overlords

      @Playerism@Playerism Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@PlayerismOleds have vrr flicker just like VA. I'm gonna settle for ips with mini led.

      @segacorpceo@segacorpceo9 ай бұрын
  • This whole time I thought I had a hardware problem but it's literally just a VA panel, if you're new to monitors like me please don't ever get a VA panel you'll experience headaches like you won't believe.

    @pauliewalnuts6977@pauliewalnuts69773 жыл бұрын
    • This is entirely dependent upon the VA panel used, not VA in general. Don't get a cheap VA panel.

      @ChangoFrett@ChangoFrett2 жыл бұрын
    • @@ChangoFrett I don't consider 450 bucks cheap, also wasn't a va problem unfortunately still sitting with judder on my series x but my pc is all fixed such a weird problem.

      @pauliewalnuts6977@pauliewalnuts69772 жыл бұрын
    • @@pauliewalnuts6977 if its the same monitor, series x will show the issue as well.

      @GunzyHD@GunzyHD2 жыл бұрын
    • @@pauliewalnuts6977 are you using the same VA monitor?

      @salomao03@salomao032 жыл бұрын
    • @@GunzyHD i still see the judder im not sure what to believe anymore its showing on two monitors but this is a brand new console I did 4 replacements

      @pauliewalnuts6977@pauliewalnuts69772 жыл бұрын
  • Same for me. I was buying ROG Strix XG32VC in hope that backlight strobe would eliminate smearing at all. It does help, but introduces new issues like colored glow around moving objects. The VA black smearing was not only a problem in games, but also while browsing, because moving font again gets blurred by black smearing. So truth is that VA improved in response time, but not for blacks. To me, VA is not acceptable. I will try IPS and check, if contrast is an issue for me.

    @mikemiksen1218@mikemiksen12183 жыл бұрын
    • Damn. Do all VA panels have Black Smearing like that? And how did your IPS test went?

      @FukurouYGR@FukurouYGR3 жыл бұрын
    • "VA improved in response time, but not for blacks." just like US police

      @iamvigant@iamvigant3 жыл бұрын
    • ​@@FukurouYGR Samsung's Odyssey G7 monitors are the only monitors that dont have it.

      @kh2387@kh23873 жыл бұрын
    • @@kh2387 yea but they got other problems with the panel, and g7 users are facing such issues on large scale.

      @Yuv_0006@Yuv_00063 жыл бұрын
    • @@Yuv_0006 My G7 is perfectly fine, and I read a lot about its potential issues before buying. Still lots of hearsay from non-buyers going around ;)

      @kimandre995@kimandre9953 жыл бұрын
  • Never had any problems with motion sickness but when I got my 21:9 AOC VA display the black smears hit me so hard, I actually got nauseous playing high speed games like CSGO or Destiny. Saving up to replace it with a 21:9 IPS...

    @rrraewr@rrraewr10 ай бұрын
  • Black smearing is annoying when you slowly scroll a web page and text becomes hard to read. Also it sucks in some games which display text that moves together with your character (like text of objects laying around in Diablo). However to me the biggest issue with black smearing is in space sim games like X3 where stars simply dissappear when you rotate your ship and pop out when you stop. This looks simply ridiculous for a game where half of the time you're supposed to enjoy the view. I replaced IPS panel with VA and black smearing is the only true problem I have.

    @andrzej2574@andrzej25742 жыл бұрын
    • I upgraded from 1080p 144hz TN monitor to 34'' 1440p 144hz VA ultrawide . At first I was absolutely in love with it. However after my first encounter with dark level smearing I was absolutely disgusted. I also played some space games and on one hand it was amazing how much I could see. But then you move a camera and 80% of stars disappear and that just sucked. I sold my ultrawide and got myself 16:9 1440p 180hz IPS panel I I like it so much better. I'll never touch any VA panel again. Now I'm waiting for more IPS options in 21:9 category because I do miss that aspect ratio a bit.

      @starly1974@starly1974 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@starly1974 Thanks for sharing. Great that you found a solution! I also swapped my poor VA panel for something else. I bought Samsung G7 monitor which although still being VA has incredible performance in terms of motion blur (no problem with stars in X3!). It's like it's in its own league outmatching all other VA panels and most IPS panels and loosing only to top gaming IPS monitors. Loosing severly I must sadly say, but first of all, gaming IPS panels are twice as expensive, and secondly G7 is still a VA so its blacks remain black and not grey as in IPS. Too bad Samsung went cheap on testing as this monitor has couple flaws which wouldn't even be tolerable in low-end budget monitors. Sometimes it won't wake up from sleep, and I have to unplug it from power and plug it back. Also Freesync and GSync have this horrible flaw that when FPS drops below their minimum VRR frame rate then monitor suddenly changes its brightness for dark on-screen elements, and when FPS rise back to acceptable VRR range then brightness reverts to what it was. When this happens fast, like 10 times per second, then the outcome is a horrible flickering of image. This happens in web browsers and games alike. Best not to enable Freesync at all to avoid it. And finally this crazy monitor curve, I don't know if I'll ever get used to it being so weird. I don't understand why someone has to sacrifice so much just to avoid motion blur, or black level smearing. I recently read that people who completely can't stand it go back to CRT monitors based on Sony Trinitron and sacrifice resolution, aspect ratio, contast, brightness, sharpness, ... :)

      @andrzej2574@andrzej2574 Жыл бұрын
    • @@starly1974 is OLED not an option in IPS vs VA battle?

      @0wyn@0wyn Жыл бұрын
    • I know they are becoming much better recently but the last time I was looking into It I didn't think they were at a point where I'd go recommending them for people. But I believe OLED will be way to go in mid-late 2020s

      @starly1974@starly1974 Жыл бұрын
    • @@0wyn it will have a battle between the wallet vs oled

      @rekusamare2219@rekusamare2219 Жыл бұрын
  • Is there a fix for this in va panel i dont mind a little higher input lag.

    @onaknikol8763@onaknikol876311 ай бұрын
  • 0:23 this is a perfect example of how bad VA is in Windows/scrolling text. Halo ghosting / black blob that follows all text and makes it unreadable. So bad. It's also bad in games where it causes a "jelly" feeling. And dark objects in the scene will cause the entire image to become "darker" while you move the camera due to the "darkness" "lingering" in the spot that showed the dark object on VA panels. I found out that the core issue is that if you ask a VA panel pixel to go from dark to bright or bright to dark, it takes on average ~30 milliseconds to do it, due to the pixel technology (crystal rotation method) used inside a VA monitor. That means an equivalent of having a 33 hz monitor. So on a 240hz VA monitor that you play a game where you rotate the camera in a scene with both bright and dark parts in the image, you are actually gaming at 33 fps/33 hz on your 240hz monitor. And you get a massive "motion blur" trail while moving, because the VA technology cannot change the brightness fast enough. Basically your 240hz VA monitor is showing 33fps/hz, but all blurred/smeared together. Those slow VA pixel transitions are even worse at higher refresh rates... And to try and lessen the effect, gaming VA monitors have to use an "overdrive" technology which introduces overshoot (fake halos around objects which move with the object), which gets worse as the refresh lowers if you use VRR (Freesync/Gsync). Okay so that settles it, I will 100% stay on IPS monitors. IPS has significantly more saturated and beautiful colors. Besides, I mostly do Windows work / browsing the web, where VA is awful garbage due to its blurriness of text/scrolling. Their only downside is 1000:1 contrast instead of ~3000:1 for VA, but good IPS monitors still have excellent *looking* contrast. And for someone who has a lot of money to spend, there are even IPS models such as ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQX which uses 576 FALD dimming zones with micro-LEDs to basically get million-to-1 contrast ratios (extremely dark black levels rivaling OLED). I will be happy with a normal 1000:1 IPS though.

    @BenderdickCumbersnatch@BenderdickCumbersnatch3 жыл бұрын
    • Here is another video that *really* puts the VA smearing issues in context and shows how bad it is: kzhead.info/sun/Zpibob1veoale58/bejne.html

      @BenderdickCumbersnatch@BenderdickCumbersnatch3 жыл бұрын
    • Entirely dependent on the panel that a manufacturer chooses to use. The Samsung G7s are VA and this issue is a non-issue.

      @ChangoFrett@ChangoFrett2 жыл бұрын
    • couldn't agree more with you, i regret buying VA monitor.

      @bagaskarajayadewata2108@bagaskarajayadewata21082 жыл бұрын
    • @@ChangoFrett Not true. I had a Samsung G7. There was ugly jelly blur when scrolling text in Windows. I returned it after just 3 days.

      @BenderdickCumbersnatch@BenderdickCumbersnatch2 жыл бұрын
    • @@bagaskarajayadewata2108 Me too, had a Samsung G7 and returned after 3 days, it was awful. The jelly effect/blur was so bad.

      @BenderdickCumbersnatch@BenderdickCumbersnatch2 жыл бұрын
  • There's a reaosn most artists use an ips panel,great color accuracy and fast response times.

    @ntz752@ntz752 Жыл бұрын
  • Is it possible that you didn't turn on overldrive mode on VA panel?

    @GamerDan89@GamerDan8911 ай бұрын
  • Horrible purchasing decision from me to get a VA. It really is unbearably bad in games and I will be using my trash TN monitor over my VA because of how bad the smearing is.

    @14_IQ.points@14_IQ.points Жыл бұрын
  • I got mine a va panel but really the black smearing is not good 😢😢😢😢😢😢

    @bekim137@bekim1378 ай бұрын
  • I have two ups both black smearing the same thing. Dell 280hz and gigabyte 27u 4k

    @TurboD16z6@TurboD16z610 ай бұрын
  • nobody talks about that but VA is okay on low refresh rate panels, It really depends on slowest black to grey response time. What i mean: 60hz is about 16ms to refresh every frame. If slowest black to grey is 10ms you will not see black smearing but if you set ur pricy gaming VA panel into 160 hz you will get 6ms refresh time BUT your black to grey is still 10 ms. As result you able to see that slow response time on hight hz rate. There is only two ways to fix this: Wash out black colors to make them grey (where response time is faster then refresh rate for example set '0' black to '50' where response time is faster then 6ms). Set ur refresh rate to slowest black response time - 100 hz for example. But this wont work if slowest response time of black is arund 30ms (30hz). So thats a reason why high hz VA panels is just useless Switching from washed out blacks of VA to normal IPS panel will be an upgrade

    @Nightikzzz@NightikzzzАй бұрын
    • Hey, thanks for your comment. It's very informative and will help me as a consumer. I play mostly narrative single-player games and don't really care about having the most competitive setup. Instead, I'd like to be able to play a horror game with proper "color definition" in black areas. But apparently, as a budget gamer, that's too much to ask. Do you know If I can use VRR on series X with the monitor set to 60hz-100hz? If yes, I'll be getting a VA. If I can't reconcilie true blacks with the series X's VRR, I'll go for an IPS. But either way thanks!

      @UnnacountedFlesh42@UnnacountedFlesh4210 күн бұрын
  • Thank God I don't changed my IPS monitor to a VA

    @Hengsbr@Hengsbr Жыл бұрын
    • But doesn't IPS cause strain on eyes. And do black being grey not bother you?

      @gamekriss@gamekriss22 күн бұрын
  • Is there any tv out there without black smearing...im going nuts here..

    @HolsovanUltimate@HolsovanUltimate2 жыл бұрын
  • I got 34inch ultrawide 144hz monitor, but black smearing on texts is killing me

    @ConstantineTvalashvili@ConstantineTvalashvili5 ай бұрын
  • I thought I was nuts, thank god

    @jacktherabbit2238@jacktherabbit2238 Жыл бұрын
  • @Tamelgar You should rename the video "VA vs IPS" because some people in the comments below think IPS is on the left.

    @BenderdickCumbersnatch@BenderdickCumbersnatch3 жыл бұрын
    • Done

      @tamelgar3668@tamelgar36683 жыл бұрын
    • @@tamelgar3668 Awesome!

      @BenderdickCumbersnatch@BenderdickCumbersnatch3 жыл бұрын
  • My experience so far on VA panel is, it's so good on vibrant games like Forza Horizon 5, AC Oddysey, but you will get a lot of smearing on games like CoD which have so many shadows.

    @IrvinEsmabe@IrvinEsmabeАй бұрын
  • are all va panels ghosting?

    @GeforceGtx980ti@GeforceGtx980ti Жыл бұрын
  • 0:19 is crazy

    @kerenton5897@kerenton58973 жыл бұрын
    • I don’t notice any difference?

      @deekay13@deekay133 жыл бұрын
    • @@deekay13 Look at the fence. Especially when it starts and stops moving.

      @TestSubject173@TestSubject173 Жыл бұрын
  • If you set black levels high you will get rid of smearing on va but black levels will be the same as in ips ((

    @singularonaut@singularonaut3 ай бұрын
    • It will be worse than ips. IPS can have decent black. Its just not suited for a Room with no light.

      @sonyx4500@sonyx45004 күн бұрын
  • 0:17 is a perfect example of how bad the contrast is on IPS panels. Look at the floor tiles on the IPS vs the VA panel. Everything is so washed out on IPS. There's a reason why all the high end TVs talk about their contrast ratios. That inky black really makes all the difference. Most IPS panels are 1000:1 contrast while VA panels are 3000:1 or in some cases 4000:1. I know, we all want OLED gaming monitors. No more IPS/VA debate. Just image retention.

    @jimbrown341@jimbrown341 Жыл бұрын
    • I’ll take that over shitty smearing and motion blur any day of the week. With a decent IPS, you can still achieve excellent contrast and picture without resorting to hideous VA

      @stansmith7445@stansmith7445 Жыл бұрын
    • ⁠@@stansmith7445 contrast on most ips are far from excellent, unless it’s a mini led with thousands of dimming zones

      @proggz39@proggz3911 ай бұрын
    • @@proggz39 still better than blur and smearing and I own 4 VA monitors currently. VAs look great on a static image, it's when they move the headaches begin.

      @V1CT1MIZED@V1CT1MIZED9 ай бұрын
    • You shouldn’t buy IPS if you’re not willing to spend a little bit more. If you bought entry or mid tier IPS it’s your fault for not making a calculated decision, not the technology

      @Motthias@Motthias4 ай бұрын
  • it looks like not all va panels have black smearing,I'm using AOC 22b2hn monitor And no visible black smearing😅

    @Andrewfelixedbert@Andrewfelixedbert Жыл бұрын
    • У тебя монитор 75 герц

      @10Roman101@10Roman1013 ай бұрын
  • gaming from pc on ips monitor to ps5 va tv drive me nuts. things just look blurrier when on motion

    @hikigayahachiman3321@hikigayahachiman33213 жыл бұрын
  • I got interested in VA monitors recently, as something new in comparison to old IPS ones. Now I am not (I really need 144 Hz). Thank you!

    @adravil_sunderland@adravil_sunderland2 жыл бұрын
    • Does 144Hz fix a lot of the black smearing issue?

      @jordyhitty@jordyhitty Жыл бұрын
    • @@jordyhitty Higher hz causes more problems with smearing. On 60hz it's barely noticeable but on 120+hz it is a lot easier to see it.

      @a.pigeon@a.pigeon Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@Joao_Msame, i dont get the hate on VA at the end its all about what annoys you the most...i d rather have a bit of motion blure than grey blacks

      @aymenaymen7533@aymenaymen75336 ай бұрын
    • @@aymenaymen7533 Well I'd rather have grey blacks than motion blur. In video games it's a setting you can enable or disable, but if a VA makes it the equivalent of "enabled" at all times then that's unacceptable for gaming imo. I'd rather be able to see the image clearly, instead of looking through a blurry mess going "well at least the blacks are deep and colors are great" lol. Especially if you play the new Resident Evil games, yeah, good luck getting a VA not to smear when those games are 99% dark scenes.

      @JohnDoeWasntTaken@JohnDoeWasntTaken5 ай бұрын
    • @@JohnDoeWasntTaken i play dark games completely fine on my VA..i also play competitive games on it and its smooth ..again it ll always come down to what annoys you the most

      @aymenaymen7533@aymenaymen75335 ай бұрын
  • shit is blurry af, VA is improving, but that panel is not for me

    @renendell@renendell3 жыл бұрын
  • You can always raise the black on a VA and almost completely negate smearing (since youre doing GtG now and thats decently fast even on VA). It will look washed out, sure, but it would on IPS as well.

    @incognito3402@incognito340222 күн бұрын
    • Blacks aren't that bad on decent ips. Just turn on a light. Overall IPS is better. Better Colours, Motion, Response Time and Viewing Angles.

      @sonyx4500@sonyx45004 күн бұрын
    • @@sonyx4500 You cant have better colour with worse contrast, thats not how things work. Motion response is the same sans black transitions which are worse on VA. Also i dont care about viewing angles and i dont want to crack a light. VA is overall better, for my use case.

      @incognito3402@incognito34023 күн бұрын
    • @@incognito3402 I have both and can compare. The colours on IPS are more saturated and accurate. And on the VA the blacks and contrast is better. But there is smearing in near black transitions. On IPS i have no smearing.

      @sonyx4500@sonyx45003 күн бұрын
  • Does anybody have dell s2422hg and have these problem ?

    @briliant983@briliant9832 жыл бұрын
  • what is the game in the end?

    @zakkman@zakkman2 ай бұрын
  • Also tho VA monitors do look better but the black smearing is not going to cut it, it’s looks very distracting. IPS for the win then.

    @niko2002@niko20022 жыл бұрын
    • IPS for the win...win of light gray blacks and sad contrast ratio..yeah...

      @shaolin95@shaolin95 Жыл бұрын
    • @@shaolin95 At least with IPS you can see clearly in video games without having to stop moving the mouse to know what you're looking at.

      @JohnDoeWasntTaken@JohnDoeWasntTaken5 ай бұрын
    • i upgrade my monitor IPS 75hz to VA 165hz the smearing so distracting so i sell itu only in 1 week i buy@@shaolin95

      @arroziirfan7109@arroziirfan71094 ай бұрын
  • VA's are weird, sometimes they smear a lot more than IPS, sometimes slightly more, and sometimes less. The best Samsung VA's right now are actually faster in in pixel response at all levels than the fastest IPS, only thing faster are the best TN's; but these VA's are pricey. The blacks and contrast are worth it, even if you have to be extra careful to read reviews to make sure the Monitor you are eying has acceptable pixel response time.

    @anasevi9456@anasevi9456 Жыл бұрын
    • As someone that has two Samsung G7s I can honestly say the contrast isn't that great as it is much lower than standard VA and suffers from backlight bleeding. Plus the amount of issues you can have with the monitors due to bad QC makes them a gamble if you don't want the hassle of a potential return. Also to avoid VRR flicker you have to use "VRR control" which raises the threshold for LFC to be activated to something around 80hz which is bad when most are at the highest 48hz. Plus smearing is still there, albeit hard to notice in games but certain websites will show it. I would like the new G8 Neo, but unsure if that has similar issues or if they fixed it. I don't want to spend over 1k to find out.

      @V1CT1MIZED@V1CT1MIZED9 ай бұрын
  • THANK YOU!!

    @iron_x2@iron_x2 Жыл бұрын
  • Perfect example of why I'm returning my va lol

    @davidmer968@davidmer9683 жыл бұрын
    • Noob

      @quikzome6973@quikzome69732 жыл бұрын
    • How about look and think before you buy ?

      @quikzome6973@quikzome69732 жыл бұрын
    • @@quikzome6973 you re dumb as hell, not all va monitors have this problem, ive tried 3 va panels and only 1 of them had this issue while using override at strong/fastest response

      @Frenetical@Frenetical2 жыл бұрын
    • @@Frenetical i get that you are angry because you own a shitty as shit va panel monitor. doesn't mean you have to insult me. jaywalker

      @quikzome6973@quikzome69732 жыл бұрын
    • @@quikzome6973 Many of us don't have the fortune of looking before we buy unless there's a store we can go to and ask to see some with some demonstrations. Otherwise it's all down to conflicting opinions on the pros and cons of all panels. Also... What kinda insult is jaywalker?

      @Anreii@Anreii2 жыл бұрын
  • I bought an Asus TUF IPS panel, the blacks actually look like black!

    @Frank_Pods@Frank_PodsАй бұрын
  • выставьте вручную на мониторе контрастность 45-65 , и подстройте гамму , промлема решится с размытием

    @sora_1007@sora_10076 ай бұрын
  • does it affect on valorant?

    @ruanbauer8240@ruanbauer82404 ай бұрын
  • can you try with the g7

    @AggBaddie@AggBaddie3 жыл бұрын
    • No sorry, i will never buy a VA monitor again

      @tamelgar3668@tamelgar36683 жыл бұрын
  • Half of people who are crying va panel black smearing/ghosting just doesnt understand calibrate their new monitor. in my case, when I just bought my msi optix ag321cqr, I had to study and test for hours before I found the appropriate settings. Unfortunately, the same settings do not work everywhere. Actually this video is good and bad example. The only difference is brightness. Adjust your brightness levels using gamma/contrast/brightness and monitor manufacturer specific settings to same level, so the difference is almost unnoticeable.

    @koozt9494@koozt9494 Жыл бұрын
    • don't try to cope, VA panels suck. Even the "good" VA panels are trash compared to IPS and TN panels

      @Camacho557@Camacho557 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Camacho557 Didnt meant to hype va panels but on right setting its ok. Every panels have cons and pros. ips have terrible blacks which is bad like watching movies. Changing my monitor settings i can made my blacks looks grey too which remove ghosting and black smearing. But i see you missed my whole point which was people writing much bullshit without knowing anything about it.

      @koozt9494@koozt9494 Жыл бұрын
    • 1y ago but can you go more in-depth? I'd like a quick tutorial

      @lorpy5366@lorpy53663 ай бұрын
  • Black smearing is the worst.

    @lequinho4@lequinho4 Жыл бұрын
  • Me who is colorblind : ips panel is for me 😆

    @moonbustin@moonbustin14 күн бұрын
  • Personally it's hard to notice smearing while gaming unless I'm specifically looking for it.

    @sinaalami4148@sinaalami4148 Жыл бұрын
    • But when scrolling on a webpage with black text, that would show yeah?

      @jordyhitty@jordyhitty Жыл бұрын
    • @@jordyhitty YUP

      @sinaalami4148@sinaalami4148 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jordyhitty I use my VA only for games so I am fine

      @shaolin95@shaolin95 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jordyhitty Are there people that view websites anymore with black text? I thought everyone is using dark mode everywhere by now. Dark Reader makes every website dark mode.

      @jimbrown341@jimbrown341 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jordyhitty Not for my case. Never had that problem on VA panel.

      @koray6261@koray6261 Жыл бұрын
  • How do I fix on a va panel

    @geezer5507@geezer55073 жыл бұрын
    • Buying a Samsung odyssey g7

      @Memo__51@Memo__512 жыл бұрын
    • @@Memo__51 do no other g series greatly minimise the smear cause otherwise I'd have to sell my kidney

      @Anreii@Anreii2 жыл бұрын
  • Os dois tem mais o ips tem menos

    @Lozanxzp@Lozanxzp Жыл бұрын
  • Cheap or expensive VA panel is same,still ghosting all over the place,just buy IPS panel,

    @natsu78999@natsu789992 жыл бұрын
    • Found a cheap 165hz va panel locally got home super excited being bit bigger and all, amazed by contrast and deep dark zones but after playing a few rounds of pubg and any other game rly, i was like whats going on with my monitor lol. Recently found out about black smearing and its so terrible, i went back to my 24 inch ips. Not all is lost tho as i decided to keep the va and use it to watch movies and stuff on it. But ye for gaming, literaly even tn panels are much better lol. image smudging across the screen everytime u move ur mouse is so bad.

      @wraithblastalx6466@wraithblastalx64662 жыл бұрын
    • @@wraithblastalx6466 you r not alone,i made a mistake aswell before,bought new VA monitor,but ghosting is terible,even when i doin web browswer,and scrolling the article i want to read,the screen very blurry when scrolling,and its very noticeable in dark area in any game i play,

      @natsu78999@natsu789992 жыл бұрын
    • yeah buy IPS and enjoy the light gray blacks and the pathetic contrast. Hardly a solution

      @shaolin95@shaolin95 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@shaolin95Buy Oled or a used Plasma. LCD is crap

      @sonyx4500@sonyx45004 күн бұрын
  • Never again i will own a VA monitor and samsung's cheaper ips version. Terrible for fighting games and much more headache at 60 fps playing shooters. This is why i have a crt monitor. But im getting the acer nitro ips

    @cleangoblin2021@cleangoblin202111 ай бұрын
  • At least it's black, and not gray.

    @aflirhtihrasdljksladj7838@aflirhtihrasdljksladj7838 Жыл бұрын
    • yep its between deep blacks and high contrast with smearing (or get a G7) vs no smearing but terrible contrast and light gray blacks :/

      @shaolin95@shaolin95 Жыл бұрын
  • Buy the gigabyte G27QC, it sucks!!! the VA panel has unbearable black dots when you move the camera!!

    @diego-vas8626@diego-vas862610 ай бұрын
  • bro got so many views and 3 subs like what

    @JimboJ@JimboJ2 жыл бұрын
  • From 0:56 to 1:07 What game is this?

    @rafaeldeagostinho4518@rafaeldeagostinho4518 Жыл бұрын
    • factorio

      @TestSubject173@TestSubject173 Жыл бұрын
  • best panel TN no ips glow or ghosting. And VA > IPS . Ips realy bad no healty for eyes. ıps glow big problem.

    @harunefetr@harunefetrАй бұрын
  • does anyone have a samsung g5 27? is it as bad as this va panel?

    @bartolomeumalfeitor965@bartolomeumalfeitor9652 жыл бұрын
    • Don't know if it's as bad but G5 is not as great as G7

      @Hirnlego999@Hirnlego9992 жыл бұрын
    • I wouldn't buy a g5, i've seen dozens and dozens of people with dead pixels a couple months after or straight out the box. not sure who makes the panel but its obvious samsung uses an extremely cheap va panel on the g5's

      @JoeBlow-ub1us@JoeBlow-ub1us2 жыл бұрын
    • @@JoeBlow-ub1us shouldn't dead pixels be there from when opening the box ? That sounds kinda worrying if it develops them

      @Anreii@Anreii2 жыл бұрын
    • @@Anreii they can develop, getting locked on green or blue. Sometimes they can be fixed, sometimes they can’t. I saw many people saying they would show just a couple weeks or a couple months after getting the g5.

      @JoeBlow-ub1us@JoeBlow-ub1us2 жыл бұрын
    • @@JoeBlow-ub1us Did you mean stuck pixels? Dead pixels are just black. Though I didn't think stuck pixels were as common of an issue

      @Anreii@Anreii2 жыл бұрын
  • just use the shadow control, u will get the "washed" colors of an IPS panel without spending 200 bucks more

    @raven7672@raven76722 жыл бұрын
    • 100% this. I set shadows to 100 and decreased the brightness in my GPU's control panel, which pretty much entirely reverted the shadows change, and now there's next to no smearing. Combine that with a saturation increase and it looks perfect. I'm using a super cheap panel too.

      @OutlawedPoet@OutlawedPoet2 жыл бұрын
    • Recent IPS have worse colors?? I heard their colors were better, the issue with it looking "washed" was just blb? I have no shadow control but a "gaming mode" that washed out the colors, but to the point it looked as bad as my shitty old tn laptop. Sadly the trade off wasn't worth.

      @Anreii@Anreii2 жыл бұрын
  • It's a non-issue. The IPS blacks are that terrible (and contrast ratio) that's the main thing you notice. Vast majority would be better with a VA panel for far superior black depth and image quality.

    @ATIWatchReviews@ATIWatchReviews Жыл бұрын
    • It’s definitely an issue for me and the vast majority of monitor owners whether you like it or not. It’s nauseating and annoying having my image blurred every time i want to turn my camera or move my character. IPS has better image retention and color accuracy giving it an overall better image, even with worse contrast. Contrast is NOT everything!

      @stansmith7445@stansmith7445 Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah nah, the thing is, for people who never think about it, they'll never notice the "terrible" blacks on IPS. I certainly never have, hell I am typing on an IPS right now with a VA as a second monitor, and the IPS has much better colors granted the VA is 13 years old now and the IPS is newer. But regardless, VA smear is something that anyone will notice right away, the fact is that it comes down to whether someone minds it or not. With IPS lack of contrast, most people don't even notice it. And I'd rather take that over vaseline screen any day.

      @JohnDoeWasntTaken@JohnDoeWasntTaken5 ай бұрын
    • You only notice the bad contrast in a room with no lights. Just turn the lights on. And everything is nice on ips.

      @sonyx4500@sonyx45004 күн бұрын
    • @@sonyx4500 it doesn't work like that. If you're used to perfect jet blacks it's very difficult to unnotice it on an IPS

      @ATIWatchReviews@ATIWatchReviews4 күн бұрын
    • @@ATIWatchReviews I know what you mean. I have an Oled and IPS TV. And in a bright room it isn't a huge issue and the colours are great. With the VA i had. I was never happy. The smearing and motionblur distracted too much to enjoy the picture.

      @sonyx4500@sonyx45004 күн бұрын
  • VA panel looks worst

    @MahediHasan-dq8up@MahediHasan-dq8up Жыл бұрын
  • Samsung Odyssey G7 with VA no black smearing.

    @justspartak@justspartak2 жыл бұрын
  • but ips has ghosting.. im so confused

    @cakalkurt1907@cakalkurt19072 жыл бұрын
    • FreeSync

      @emirobinatoru@emirobinatoru Жыл бұрын
  • Impossible to buy VA monitor becaus eof that horrible issues they have.

    @kakhak@kakhak Жыл бұрын
  • So y'all play your games in slow motion? 😂

    @machoman6969@machoman6969 Жыл бұрын
    • yes

      @denissssss8579@denissssss8579 Жыл бұрын
  • bro the AOC CU34G2X is 200e cheaper ............

    @basslinejunkies9976@basslinejunkies99763 жыл бұрын
    • Yes but the PG279Q is 5 year older

      @tamelgar3668@tamelgar36683 жыл бұрын
    • @@tamelgar3668 ?ok?

      @basslinejunkies9976@basslinejunkies99763 жыл бұрын
    • ​@@basslinejunkies9976 You can do the same test with the Asus TUF VG27AQ. You will have the same result. VG27AQ is the same monitor as PG279Q without G-Sync. And it is cheaper than the AOC Any way, the price is not an argument. You can find the IPS panel at the same price as the VA panel for the same specification. But the VA panel will always have black smearing. Originally, my video is only there to show what black smearing is

      @tamelgar3668@tamelgar36683 жыл бұрын
  • Honesty i don't see, i only see it when you put the slow motion on But now i understand the whole VA has better contrast than IPS.. I think the VA is worth it

    @TheLateral18@TheLateral183 жыл бұрын
    • oh boii no its not. i've used a VA the past 6 months and i could never get used to it. it's extremely distracting and annoying. got my new IPS today and honestly I don't really notice the worse contrast because from my perspective what i see is how it's supposed to look like, and everything feels much sharper/smoother because there aren't any trails all over the screen anymore

      @fissavids8767@fissavids87672 жыл бұрын
    • Check the bench at 0:50 which shows the bad experience I had quite well. You can see that the contour of the bench is far more "streched" or blurry during movement than on the right side IPS. It looks like the blacks are smeared during movement. Also while gaming Pillars of Eternity (a lot dark scenes) I noticed flickering of black colors.

      @mikemiksen1218@mikemiksen12182 жыл бұрын
    • I think it depends on what context you're in. Like when I'm scrolling sideways through a game map, I have to slow down scrolling by a lot because the black smears the text so much. Hopefully it's just my monitor that's so bad and the issue can be reduced with another va, but in this case it's pretty off putting.

      @Anreii@Anreii2 жыл бұрын
    • nt are still the best no smearing no ghosting,

      @gabrielmario7098@gabrielmario7098 Жыл бұрын
  • Just why there is still VA panel on the market, it's shit.

    @bagaskarajayadewata2108@bagaskarajayadewata21083 жыл бұрын
    • It's not as black and white (no pun intended) as people make it out to be, IPS also has its problems, i.e. IPS glow and worse contrast than VA. In the end it comes down to what inconvenience is more acceptable to you.

      @cortez31@cortez313 жыл бұрын
    • @@cortez31 i have tried (bought) all 3 types of monitor, its either go for TN or go for IPS. not VA.

      @bagaskarajayadewata2108@bagaskarajayadewata21083 жыл бұрын
    • I feel the same. You have to decide to what shit feels less disturbing to you. For sure there is noone telling you which panel has which weakness in detail and which type of usage is suffering from this disadvantage. From what I can tell, surfing, gaming and reading is most probably best on IPS. Watching movies is the best on OLED or Plasma (not in stores anymore) or if price is a criteria VA. Really not easy!

      @mikemiksen1218@mikemiksen12182 жыл бұрын
    • @@mikemiksen1218 I went with a Dell 165Hz WQHD IPS and am perfectly fine with it. The IPS glow is only noticable with an all black screen and doesn't bother me that much. I came from a 1080p 60Hz monitor though, so all the other advantages are already mindblowing enough for me to not search for flaws.

      @cortez31@cortez312 жыл бұрын
    • The problem is not VA, its ignorant monitor manufacturers who manufacture with the lowest quality garbage VA panels... VA TVs have much better motion handling(better pixel response time) than 99% of the VA monitors. Its a shame.

      @magyararon6918@magyararon69182 жыл бұрын
  • This is what happens when you buy a cheap VA Panel bud

    @westernrev9628@westernrev96282 жыл бұрын
    • This is what happens when you buy a VA Panel bud

      @quikzome6973@quikzome69732 жыл бұрын
    • @@quikzome6973 i have VA panel and i doesn't have this shit, Gigabyte G34WQC-A i'm here because ihear a lot about this

      @sorryyourenotawinner2506@sorryyourenotawinner25062 жыл бұрын
    • @@sorryyourenotawinner2506 well, that just means you are blind and 1 time if youre realising the ghosting and smearing you will always see

      @quikzome6973@quikzome69732 жыл бұрын
  • VA sucks.

    @Gigidag77@Gigidag774 күн бұрын
  • both garbage but prefer VA.

    @alpacamale2909@alpacamale29093 жыл бұрын
    • VA is inferior when it comes to gaming

      @ntz752@ntz7523 жыл бұрын
    • @@ntz752 gamingistrash

      @alpacamale2909@alpacamale29093 жыл бұрын
    • @@alpacamale2909 youaretrash

      @laverdaderagrieta9032@laverdaderagrieta90323 жыл бұрын
    • @@laverdaderagrieta9032 Calla Podemita

      @alpacamale2909@alpacamale29093 жыл бұрын
    • @@ntz752 inferior how? You guys sure like talking out of your asses based on your subjective opinions: kzhead.info/sun/n9mFg5GBcJ6rlZ8/bejne.html All monitors nowadays are very close when it comes to gaming performance, it's basically a choice between crap blacks and good colors (IPS), good blacks but average colors (VA), and price (TN).

      @xIcarus227@xIcarus2272 жыл бұрын
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