Ready for an epic showdown? We're comparing two luxurious V8 SUV's - Lexus GX460 and Land Rover LR3! Join me as we put them through their paces and find out which one comes out on top.
Big thanks to @jt.explores and @king_media_ for filming and driving assistance.
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As a mechanic I would take lexus over anything
That’s a no brainer! 😂
That’s fair. Haha
It takes some skill to maintain an LR3, and money.
There’s a saying that if you want to get to your destination get a Land Rover. If you want to get to your destination and back home then get a Toyota landcruiser/GX😂
As a compentent mechanic i would take the Land Rover any day, if it goes wrong i can fix it myself. I'm sorry but Lexus and Toyota are just so incredibly boring.
I own both. Both with lifts and off-road tires. I drive the LR3 more. I find traction control on the Land Rover to be more seamless.
I agree that it’s definitely a smoother system.
How's reliability?
@@thecarsavant so far it seems decent. I bought it with a couple of issues, but I’m getting those fixed.
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Speaking as someone from Africa, you seem tough as the 4x4s, wearing only a T shirt out in the cold. I enjoy comparisons like this.
Haha I actually forgot my jacket.😂 I plan to do more comparison videos in the future, but they might be on more modified vehicles.🤙🏼
We owned an LR3 for a little bit. It was a lot of fun to drive but wouldn’t put it in the same league as the GX460. We also own a 2012 FJC TT.
The 2012 TT is a nice one! GX460s are honestly hard to beat.
A little late to the party, but I'm really digging these LR3 videos. I think the difference between these two is that you can buy and build the LR3 for about the same cost just to purchase the LX.
You do make a fair point!
I have had both those vehicles . the GX I still have. and will never own another Land Rover product ever again. They dont last.
That’s fair. This year of LR3 is meant to be decent, but we’ll see how it goes. Haha
@@fj_matt things will fail on that lr3 prematurely, crazy stuff
I know someone with a new Discovery that started having issues at................ 15,000 miles! Yikes!
@@TheLyingLeft wow they just don’t last. Or hold their value. A lot of things fail prematurely, sorry to say
The LR3 has 13" of wheel travel in the rear. I'd like to know the stats on the GX. Also FWIW I have 237k miles on my 2006 LR3 and runs great.
My LR3 needs some maintenance, but it starts strong every time, and I really do like it.🤙🏼
@@fj_matt my LR3, either of them, would eat up that GX, then have your FJ for dessert.
@@osubeef😂😂. Prove it. Hahaha. My LR3 now absolutely dwarfs yours. Just wait for the next LR3 video.
@@fj_matt looking forward to it...but as big as you build it, you don't have my right foot! Hahahaha
@@osubeefhahaha I’ll do my best.
Both are great vehicles but comes down to what YOU like more…personally I’m a LR guy…I own 2 and have never really had a nyissues with them but I do my regular maintenance and don’t do anything foolish.. I also don’t live in Mongolia so for trail riding, going to grocery, lumber yard, hauling my dogs, and the occasional mud runs they have been A++
You have to own two LRs cause while the other one at the shop 😢 Toyota baby🤙🏾reliability built to last for ever there Tanks!!
@@rickmontelongo4230 nice try.. both were built to last.. toyotas are fine i know theyre built well, but to me they look like big plastic remote control cars
@@caintiger Yeah remote control cars love them they last forever 😂
@@rickmontelongo4230 yup they do, ugly but reliable and cheap to repair.. plastic is virtually free to make and you can use zip ties to hold your interior together..hope you enjoy them for years to come
The Jaguar 4.4 V8 is a champ!!
It just keeps going! I might have bought something with a 5.0 though.👀
What years have the jag 4.4??
So about the kdss what the solid-axle Land Rover Discovery 2 has is called Ace. It is a hydraulic pump it is always on and whenever you go around a turn the accelerometer can feel before bodylean happens and that pump stiffens up a little hydraulic ram built into the sway bar link but when you put it in low range it disengages completely and that Ram has complete free play to give 0 sway bar activity for articulation. Land Rover changed into something less capable than the old ones they are just more luxurious and handle better on the street. The newer is better isn't always the case as far as just exclusively referring to Offroad
excellent comparison. Can't beat Toyota reliability and that KDSS ❤
It was my first time wheeling with KDSS, and it really seemed to do its job well!
Rubbish my LR4 has never failed in 170,000 miles.
@@fredbrackely You got a freak, Land Rovers are junk
@@fredbrackely the GX460 will just be breaking in then. The LR4 is nice but yours is an exception to the rule. That said I’d pick one up as long as I have the GX as backup.😜
@@fredbrackelyResale value for the LR is rubbish after 170k miles. Yours is an exception or luck. Wait until it breaks the parts will cost more than the car’s worth.
Great video. Where is this amazing backdrop?
Thanks! This is out past Cochrane, Alberta, in the Ghost Land Use Zone.🤙🏼
Great Video Matt I think overall after watching this video I choose the Lifted GX470 on 35s😂
Hahaha good pick.😂😂
I see the AB plates….I live in Airdrie, where was this film? Awesome work
Sorry for my very slow reply! This was in the Ghost land use zone, but a lot of people call it Waiparous because it’s near there. More specifically, this part was down the Transalta road. 🤙🏼
Is the GXs suspension stock? Did you add a spacer for the front and nothing to the back? Great video! Thanks!
It had fox 2.0 on the front which I don’t recommend at all. They were quite horrible overall, and failed very quickly.
Do you have the part number for the gloss grill badge(on the gx460)? Been trying to find one for mine.
It’s tied into the radar cruiser control, so it came that way. Sorry I can’t be more of a help.
I wrestled with deciding between a prefacelift 460 and an LR3 for several months, and ended up in a 2009 Lx570. Happy with my decision overall.
LX570s are great vehicles. I can fully support that.
You already knew the problem you were going to get into with the tires. The sand mode of the Land Rover intentionally allows for wheel spin. It is a “send-it” mode which is what you want. Lean into it.
Oh 100%. The LR3 is now on 35” offroad tires, so it’ll be a completely different beast for the next videos.
@@fj_matt Wow. On my LR4 I only have 32" KO2s using lift rods. They don't rub and didn't require any cutting. I've had 315/70/R17 KO2s (34.4") on my F-150, and I can't imagine getting them on my LR4. I expect you had to cut some plastic, and probably the frame horns.
You could've used crawl control on the downhill and rock crawl on the loose rock hill.
I guess I just prefer driving myself, but you make a fair point.🤙🏼
how about if for your next comparison video you do a 1/4 mile race on frozen lake with slicks on????
Phenomenal idea
Beautiful scenery, where is this?
Near Cochrane Alberta!
Booth may take you off roading to your destination, but only one will probably reliable enough to bring back epically over time. (Hint it is not the Land Rover).
I’d definitely put my money on the Lexus for reliability, but hopefully the LR3 treats me well for however long I own it. Haha
Reliability of the Land Rover depends only on the garage.
Right.........Funny that. I owned a 200 Series which needed a re-chassis due to terrible corrosion.
@@fredbrackely yet once replaced the chassis, the 200 series can continue soldiering on. Not sure about LR tho. Also...all metal rust regardless of vehicle.
my LR3 was perfectly reliabile.
Not that it's the same generation as that Lexus but get an old Land Rover Discovery Series 2 with solid front and rear axles, traction control and ace system which will completely loosen up front and rear sway bars for insane articulation from the factory. The wheels will never leave the ground and if they do that classic Land Rover traction control kick in
Curious, did you disengage traction control in the LR3?
The terrain response overrides it, so I didn’t.
@@fj_matt terrain response doesn't actually override it. Common cause for many LR3 drivers to get stuck on sand. It will reset to "on" every time ignition is cycled, so be sure to turn it off manually after restarting the vehicle.
@@fj_matt No, unfortunately it doesn't, first thing before tackling any obstacle is hit that DSC button. Oh and use HDC on the downhill and you won't slide either.
Also, you should have been in Mud 'n Ruts on all of that stuff and turned off DSC. Were you even in 4-Lo in the LR3? One more thing: HDC works in all gears and in Neutral. Next time you have to bail on a hill climb, try it out! You didn't use it on that last descent either. Why not? Not trying to be provocative here but if you knew how to set up the LR3 better and drive it as it should be, it would wheel circles around that GX.
I was in 4lo as I said in the video. Hill descent control turned on during that descent and locked it up, which I didn’t appreciate. I’ve never been a fan of it in any of the multiple vehicles and platforms I’ve wheeled, and much prefer engine braking for the most part. I turned it off for every other descent that day, I just forgot that time. It honestly sounds like you haven’t wheeled a GX460. I’m not saying the LR3 isn’t amazingly capable, but having experience with lots of vehicles, I can confirm that GXs are amazingly capable as well, if you know how to use A-trac.
@@fj_matt HDC shouldn't lock up the brakes. It annoys me too, but it has advantages such as acting as a "torque arrestor" in big moguls on a downhill, and also for the aforementioned hill climb failure. I've never wheeled a GX, but a close friend of mine takes his GX470 out with us all the time. I feel that the LR3 has greater wheel travel, not sure what was going on in your climb...maybe two different lines...and the Crawl Ratio on the LR3 is way better. Toyotas are known for lurching. I've dominated FJs, too though, so there's that.
Yeah, I don’t really know why it was locking it up in the mud, but it did it earlier too. Maybe it was just too slippery with the winter tires. I’d say that the 460 felt more controlled and capable than the 470 I’ve wheeled in the past. What was helping this GX with wheel travel was the KDSS system. I could for sure feel it had more wheel travel, but I can’t tell you the exact specifics.
@@fj_matt I've never found statistics on 4Runner or GX wheel travel. When you were using HDC, was your foot on the brake pedal or off?
@@fj_matt you stated that you were in Rock Crawl on the first hill, which forces the selection of 4-Lo....what about the loose rock hill? You were in Sand Mode, which can be used in High or Low. Did you have it in 4-Lo then as well?
Kinda odd comment but what pants are those? Been looking for new hiking pants that snug the legs and those look superb. Best vehicle between the two? The best one is the one you can get the best deal on. I own an LR3, but would take a GX or FJ too given a good deal. Just get out there and explore! You also show the importance of having the correct (or incorrect, in this case) tires for the job!
Haha I really like the pants, so absolutely no worries! I’ll post a link to them, but if you’re not in Canada, I’m not sure where to get them. I just think it’s fun to try different platforms, and building the LR3 up will be a new experience. I’d give the nod to Lexus for reliability, but there are some great things about the LR3.
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Truwerk might work better. I’ve tried almost every brand on the market and the truwerk are by far the best fitting 😮
Which is most comfortable on and off road. Lx470, gx470, lr3, are any hands down more comfy especially the seats?
I don’t have a ton of experience with the LX470, but I’ve heard that they are extremely comfortable. The GX470 will be the most powerful feeling.
Your tests were definitely tire limited. I would choose the Lexus because of it's inherent durability and reliability.
Yeah, at least they had very similar tires, but dedicated winter tires were definitely not the best. Haha I was just working with what was still on them for that time of year.🤙🏼
What tires you had on them?
Toyo Observe GSI-6 on the GX460 and Michelin X-Ice on the LR3.
So you are comparing a lifted, modified Lexus against a stock LR, with stock tire size, just for clarification right? And the smaller wheels "don't really do anything" is false. It allow the fitment of much better and bigger off-road tires like you fitted to your Lexus.
I don’t mean this rudely, but did you actually watch the video and listen to what I said? The front end of the GX has a small level on it, a skid plate that doesn’t add any capability, and dedicated winter tires that are essentially the same diameter as the ones on the LR3. I was being upfront about it not being absolutely 100% stock, but it is extremely close.
@@fj_matt Its ok you can be a rude as you want Matt, its your video, and yes, I did watch it and thoroughly understood what you said. So, if you drove the Barbie machine straight off the dealer parking lot without your mods, how far do you think it would have gotten without incurring damage when compared to your Landy? If your mods don't add any capability, why add them? Just saying, you modded your Lexus to make it comparable to your standard Landy.
@@fredbrackelyhow about you tell me what capabilities those modifications added? I’m truly curious. The level was for looks, and the skid plate (which hangs lower than stock) was because the factory one was rusty. They funny enough cancel each other out ground clearance wise. Since this video I have now added a front skid plate to the LR3, but I wouldn’t say that added capability…
A bone stock Land Rover Discovery series 2 with traction control front and rear solid axles and the ace system to disconnect sway bars in low range will Flex all over both of those up that hill
what are the specs on GX460 rims and tires?
265/70r17 and the wheels are Icon Rebounds 0 offset with 1.25 wheel spacers.🤙🏼
What’s the smoother ride on the road
They were honestly pretty similar.
Great video!
Thanks!! I’m going to try to keep making them better and better!
I love my LR3. Smooth ride. Engine is quiet and reliable. Cargo space is unmatched. Once you get to the know the vehicle it’s not that hard to work on them. Plus I didn’t pay for the overpriced Toyota/Lexus.
The cargo space was my favourite part about the LR3. Absolutely phenomenal for camping.
Lexus GX460
Fair call
Toyota Lexus just add a rear locker to the 460 cause they only have center locker and life is good.🤙🏾
In that first test, the Lexus appeared to have less articulation overall. The front has far less travel and this limits what the back axle was trying to do. The Lexus TC seemed slower and clunkier too.
Where is this?
Ghost Land Use Zone near Cochrane Alberta.🤙🏼
Where are you driving?!
Ghost Land zone in Alberta, Canada.🤙🏼
Boys: I drive a Toyota, because it's not ugly at all, and super reliable. A friend of mine made a million miles on theirs. I immediately replaced the factory shocks so the truck could drive on the pavement. And put a lift to push where subaru can't Men: I drive a Land Rover
Haha I have both, so I straddle that argument.😂
Boys usually prefer to constantly tinker on their cars, while men prefer comfortable rides that don't break down or need constant repairs. No? At least for me, when I was young, I owned all sorts of fun cars that were always on jack stands. Now in my 40s, with a wife and kids, I just drive a GX460.
@@TheLyingLeft at least not a rav4 lol
i want one but Simply Cant afford onee of them i looking for a diesel ls3 or toyota
GX prices are crazy, but LR3s tend to be pretty cheap. Early 5th Gen 4runners might be the best bang for your buck right now though. 🤙🏼
@@fj_matt Thanks but here in Germany are all cars very expensiv atm
That makes sense! It’s also unfortunate
Off course Toyota-lexus will be the best and also, which I selected.
Land Rover 4ever
Very danger off roading I am From Bangladesh 🇧🇩
That’s cool! I’m in Canada 🇨🇦
Why do you call the rover an LS3? It’s LR3 I thought
Pretty sure I said LR3 the whole time unless I messed up.🤙🏼
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GX all day! The Land Rover is very unreliable!
I know a couple of Land Rover mechanics, so they helped me pick a good year for the LR3. Fingers crossed it stays decent!
That depends only on the garage. There are not many good Land Rover mechanics. That is the only preblem of that cars. The toyota is simpler car, and like most toyotas is ugly inside :D
@@michatrejgis2188 the LR is much nicer inside. Nice place to be while waiting for the tow truck.
@@fj_mattand what year is that?
epic views
They really are!
You're a bad influence
*takes bow*
Lexus reliability vs Land Rover CEL 😂
Haha
GX460 all the way...aftermarket parts and reliability are an offroaders best friend.
I don’t disagree!
I want the one that will keep running especially in the middle of nowhere. Hint hint. Lexus
You talk more than the actual video 🤯
First☝️
I’m afraid there’s no prize…😭
DISCO 3 is better looking from all angles, plus Toyotas rust out.
LR3s get pretty crusty too if not taken care of. Haha
Lexus all the way
I’d rather push my Land Rover than drive a Toyota
Haha you obviously haven’t driven my FJ. The LR3 deserves more credit than it gets though.
Since it’s a Land Rover….you probably will be pushing it at some point😒.
Landrovers are complete garbage. They spend most of their life in the garage getting things repaired or replaced.
Lexus is so ugly cheap looking as a man I take the Landrover 😂