The Genius Behind The First Active Deflector Shield

2024 ж. 8 Мам.
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To travel to distant planets we need a way to survive the radiation levels of deep-space. Active shielding has been explored since the 1960's but a breakthrough approach might finally make deflection shielding viable.
0:00 The 1972 Solar Radiation Event
1:27 Radiation in Deep-Space
5:05 The Insane Challenge of Active Shielding
12:30 The First Real Deflector Shield
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  • I planned the whole time to use a clip from Dune of the Holtzmans shields. 100% the best visual of an energy shield - other than I guess being able to make a real one...

    @DrBenMiles@DrBenMilesАй бұрын
    • I hope you mean the version of Dune with Patrick Stewart and Sting.

      @omnijack@omnijackАй бұрын
    • @@omnijack 100%

      @DrBenMiles@DrBenMilesАй бұрын
    • @@omnijackYou mean the janky square shit? Interesting movie, but that shield vfx was janky af.

      @petergerdes1094@petergerdes1094Ай бұрын
    • I think the approach is a little backwards the shield needs to simply draw the particles in a stream past the vehicle

      @touchheartyoga@touchheartyoga29 күн бұрын
    • So wasn't there some development on a skin for the vehicle that produces its own electricity from the movement of the craft? I could be mixed up here. But either way, I'm confident that the same technology will open the door to partial capture for electrical generation.

      @touchheartyoga@touchheartyoga28 күн бұрын
  • I'm not sure it'd stop a photon torpedo, but it's a step in the right direction... 😄

    @hervigdewilde3599@hervigdewilde3599Ай бұрын
    • A mirror could stop a photon torpedo. A proton torpedo would be the big challenge 😂

      @FutureAIDev2015@FutureAIDev2015Ай бұрын
    • @@FutureAIDev2015 I see which side you'll be on in the coming Trek Wars... 🤪

      @hervigdewilde3599@hervigdewilde3599Ай бұрын
    • @@hervigdewilde3599 unfortunately, r/whoosh... Huh?

      @FutureAIDev2015@FutureAIDev2015Ай бұрын
    • @@FutureAIDev2015 Proton torpedoes are Star Wars, whereas photon torpedoes are Star Trek. 🤣

      @hervigdewilde3599@hervigdewilde3599Ай бұрын
    • @@hervigdewilde3599 Ahhh... A photon torpedo would technically just be a laser though wouldn't it

      @FutureAIDev2015@FutureAIDev2015Ай бұрын
  • -What were you working on in NASA, dad? _A CREW-HAT. But they rejected the design.._ -How hard can it be to design a new "NASA" cap.. Why did they reject it? _It turned out too big and heavy.._ -How heavy? _25'000Kg, but still a huge improvement.._

    @dannydetonator@dannydetonatorАй бұрын
    • Keep your chin up dad, you'll get it one day.

      @mikebar42@mikebar4223 күн бұрын
  • Star Wars and Star Trek fans rejoice

    @ChinchillaBONK@ChinchillaBONK27 күн бұрын
    • also useful in the coming nuclear war to protect those that can afford it :P

      @hamasmillitant1@hamasmillitant118 күн бұрын
    • ​@@hamasmillitant1dude, this technology with do absolutely nothing to a nuclear detonation. This is meant to block stray particles traveling through space, not a small STAR at practically point blank range. Stop being such a doomer and lighten up, this technology is a good think that could help us explore and even make new homes in the future.

      @spiderlord4181@spiderlord418112 күн бұрын
    • ​@@hamasmillitant1i dont think you will be able to protect anything then

      @evobsm2328@evobsm232812 күн бұрын
    • YESSIR

      @coolcrazyguyer@coolcrazyguyer2 күн бұрын
  • I think there may be an active shielding application for reentry vehicles. Watching starship form a plasma sheath made me think we could try deflecting the plasma as a way to heat shield the vehicle. May also apply to hypersonic aviation

    @aelisenko@aelisenkoАй бұрын
    • Think about fusión reactors i think it would br similar to that besides being far less efficient

      @everettstormy@everettstormyАй бұрын
    • Initially they wanted to drop the heat tiles and pump fuel mist into the plasma to form a sort of bubble

      @seagie382@seagie382Ай бұрын
    • I like the way you think. That is novel. Hi IQ style. But... As it happens, the only reason there is a plasma around any reentry vehicle is because the speed of the vehicle versus the air. The leading surface hits the air molecules so fast it heats them to the point of kicking loose their electrons, making said plasma. 1mm before striking them, they are not ionized, so no magnet or electric field can move them out of the way. But it gets worse. The air is actively being used as a brake. If it was possible to move the air out of the way, the ship would have no braking, and would "land" on the surface at 17,000 mph. We prefer 0 mph as a better landing speed. 😂

      @FelonyVideos@FelonyVideosАй бұрын
    • @@FelonyVideos not debating the cause of the plasma…. But plasma is generally conducive regardless of how it is produced. A pulsed field should be able to be produced that would not only reduce the heat on the tiles- but actually increase the resistance by pushing the plasma out. The heat would of course be absorbed by the generator creating the field…. So no free lunch- but maybe an optimization exercise.

      @DS-vu5yo@DS-vu5yoАй бұрын
    • @@FelonyVideos I was thinking the air would initially go through the magnetic field, hit the vehicle and start ionizing, once the plasma layer develops the magnetic field would create a cushion between the plasma and vehicle. At those speeds I don't think the magnetic field would be able to delfect anything just force the plasma off the vehicle slightly, creating an insulating layer. This would likely create a large pressure differential so it would be interesting to simulate the overall effects to the vehicles aerodynamics

      @aelisenko@aelisenkoАй бұрын
  • At 4:21 you said 99.99 times the speed of light instead of 99.99 percent the speed of light and I was like hold up 😂 The graphic has the % though so it's ok

    @Ri-ver@Ri-verАй бұрын
    • Listening in the kitchen, spilt my tea, not OK! 😅

      @jerrycornelius7488@jerrycornelius7488Ай бұрын
    • I'm a dummy. Good catch 👍

      @DrBenMiles@DrBenMilesАй бұрын
    • Dude….the world is still spinning. You got his point so well you called him out for it? Pity

      @Garrett0329@Garrett0329Ай бұрын
    • @@Garrett0329 I don't imagine he interpreted it as 'calling out' so much as some good natured teasing from someone who clearly enjoyed his content. I have another account where I publish educational content on computational EM. I wouldn't be bothered at all by a comment like the one I made

      @Ri-ver@Ri-verАй бұрын
    • Yeah, I was wondering if anyone else was going to say something 👍

      @zanarkandmusic@zanarkandmusicАй бұрын
  • A science channel that isn't clickbait? Subscribed.

    @Purpleturtlehurtler@Purpleturtlehurtler29 күн бұрын
  • You know I've been working on my first science fiction novel for well over three years now, and its yt channels like this that genuinely help me ground some of my absurdly fictional concepts in at least pseudo plausible science.

    @bendybruce@bendybruceАй бұрын
    • The best sci-fi's (imo) are the ones which have relevance to reality, so I'm pleased to hear this. Lots of absurd concepts are edging closer to reality anyway. warp drive has become alcubierre drive, and this video shows promises on shielding. If we get the energy production of fusion, we're good to go.

      @Nidvard@NidvardАй бұрын
    • @@Nidvard I'm sure every SF writer has their own opinion on this, but for me anyway, SF Is the best vehicle for Demonstrating very human and down to Earth realities with regards to our failings, but in a way that we are far Less likely to be offended by, because of the fantastical setting. With a strong focus on the human condition, we can also explore what that might mean for our future assuming our mastery of science and technology continues to grow. The actual science behind the fiction is not personally the most important thing to me, but I have a deep respect for the scientific method, and feel I must make the best effort I possibly can to try and honor that.

      @bendybruce@bendybruceАй бұрын
    • One of my favorite types of shields is a gravity shield. Fucking around with space time in front of your ship so projectiles curve away from your ship. The drawbacks are you need to predict where your enemy is going to shoot. You can’t throw it on reactively as by the time you see a relativistic projectile or laser it’s already too late. You also run the risk of curving an otherwise glancing blow into a bullseye. Battles turn into a contest of who’s gunners can outwit the opponents shielding.

      @oxjmanxo@oxjmanxoАй бұрын
    • @@oxjmanxo LOVE IT!

      @bendybruce@bendybruceАй бұрын
    • @@bendybruce a variation of this was a gravity hammer. Why not turn the bending of space time in your shields into a weapon? Turn the gravity up to 11 within the enemy ship. You can add distance limitations to make this a short range use only thing. These are all variations on how to use the classic gravity generator tech in different unique ways.

      @oxjmanxo@oxjmanxo29 күн бұрын
  • I'm sure it's covered in more detail in the actual paper, but it feels like th shadow would be offset by the increased brightness when the protons are deflected into the unshaded areas; a shadow doesn't provide 'shade' if most of the light is still reaching the surface. This feals more like it creates caustics, like light ripples on the bottom of a pool. Sure, the dark areas are darker but the light areas are brighter leading to the same overall radiation exposure. I'd be happy to be wrong.

    @MyrddinE@MyrddinEАй бұрын
    • Exactly.... where are they deflected towards?

      @thorzweegers7616@thorzweegers761629 күн бұрын
    • I highly doubt particles moving that fast are going to get deflected and keep moving in the same general direction unless they hit the very edge. Shining light on a mirror shines the light back at you, not on the wall next to the mirror.

      @bobbygetsbanned6049@bobbygetsbanned604928 күн бұрын
    • @@bobbygetsbanned6049 Deflection and reflection are different, though. Deflection just needs to push the particles to the side a bit so they can continue on their way. I had the same concern about caustics but didn't think to call it that. If those electrodes are just nudging the particles to areas between the shadows, then it's no improvement. If the astronauts sit in the same place frequently, it would focus the radiation on smaller areas of their bodies, increasing the risk of cancer. But like the OP, I'd be happy to be wrong.

      @JB52520@JB5252027 күн бұрын
  • If you're merely deflecting the particles, then aren't you just concentrating them into the non-shielded parts of the pattern? I suppose if you stacked enough layers of this matrix, then the " tortuous path" you created would have equal probability of reflecting or letting through any given particle?

    @dominicsimone@dominicsimoneАй бұрын
    • Surely if you deflect through the first layer, the second layer would just deflect back into the spaces protected by the first layer, thus solving nothing. What you actually need to do is deflect the particles into channels that flow around the ship and back into space.

      @-_James_-@-_James_-Ай бұрын
    • I wander about catching some of the particles to generate power​@@-_James_-

      @everettstormy@everettstormyАй бұрын
    • Yep, you can see in the image that it's brighter in between the non-shielded parts. In that case, you'd probably want a cone of circles of points, with the smallest circle/point forward most, so that any particle can be deflected entirely around a habitable area, like how the some of grid particles were deflected to the outside. Alternatively, you could only protect the parts of a ship that needed to be protected from radiation, and let the parts that can handle much more radiation have much more radiation.

      @simleek6766@simleek676627 күн бұрын
    • I was wondering this too, but surely JPL and NASA would have thought of this... The deflection must be a greater angle.

      @chrissears9912@chrissears991226 күн бұрын
    • Yeah I noticed this too, it’s not sending the particles 180 degrees back the way they came, it’s only throwing them a few degrees off and funnelling them into more concentrated areas between the gaps.

      @elishelton9412@elishelton941225 күн бұрын
  • Any astronaut caught in the blast would, of course, develop superpowers.

    @tomardans4258@tomardans4258Ай бұрын
  • Ideally, we'd want to "capture" these particles, and translate their energy to into usable power for the craft.

    @Cyber-Riot@Cyber-Riot29 күн бұрын
    • I think it would take more energy to accelerate them to match the spacecraft's velocity than whatever energy could harnessed from their charge. But maybe they could do some work on the way by. (Honestly I don't know. Physics is not my forte, it's just fun to think about.)

      @JB52520@JB5252027 күн бұрын
    • Ideally we need to resolve the radiation issue of the cosmos before we dive into the radiation of the cosmos. One main reason why deep space is off limits. Absorption of radiation. Passing through the lowest density of the radiation belt was a mission. Dealing with direct radiation now. Deep space. Anything outside of Earth's Radiative belt.

      @rafaelgonzalez4175@rafaelgonzalez417525 күн бұрын
  • "Crew-hat" makes sense because you wear a hat to protect yourself from the sun. This hat protects the whole crew at once. 😂

    @Will_Forge@Will_Forge23 күн бұрын
  • I subscribed because you ask the right questions and your hands on approach . Welk done!

    @andymuller327@andymuller32724 күн бұрын
  • I think that to test this shield around the earth, there are enough radiation belts, inside which satellites like SUBESAT can be launched, which can then be returned to the ground and their surface examined under an electron microscope for radiation damage.

    @caeli5532@caeli5532Ай бұрын
    • Was thinking the same thing with the van Allan belt (may have spelt that wrong). However, it's going to be down to having a launch vehicle to get prototypes there and could well be achievable once starship is able to take payloads into orbit and possibly bring them back for testing.

      @skyrat3816@skyrat381624 күн бұрын
  • Another reason for discounting the electrostatic approach, even for energies that are doable, is that some particles have the opposite charge.

    @JohnDlugosz@JohnDlugoszАй бұрын
    • protons always have a positive charge, that's the definition of the proton. If it had negative charge it would be an electron. For charged ions, they are charged as electrons are stripped away, making them positive charge. So no, no opposite charge.

      @Nidvard@NidvardАй бұрын
    • @@NidvardYou don't find high energy electrons to be a problem? And cosmic rays also see some anti-protons.

      @JohnDlugosz@JohnDlugosz29 күн бұрын
    • @@NidvardHigh energy cosmic events produces a fair part antimatter particles

      @lafeechloe6998@lafeechloe699829 күн бұрын
    • @@JohnDlugosz if you knew how high energy electrons work and interact then you wouldn't either. If its protons or anti-protons really is irrelevant

      @Nidvard@Nidvard29 күн бұрын
    • @@lafeechloe6998 "fair part" means a few subatomic particles which immediately disintegrate and this is completely harmless. This occurs when particles interact with something, usually the atmosphere. With such a shield those particles would be deflected and never have the chance to interact to make antimatter

      @Nidvard@Nidvard29 күн бұрын
  • That was a great presentation. Thank you!

    @philipsharpe6905@philipsharpe690527 күн бұрын
  • Thank you, Dr. Miles you are an incredible teacher. Thank you very much for bringing this.

    @charleslaurice@charleslauriceАй бұрын
  • This was good information, you've earned a new sub today. Thanks for all your hard work.

    @jerrywatson1958@jerrywatson195828 күн бұрын
  • Not enough people talk about this major roadblock to space travel...👍

    @goncalovazpinto6261@goncalovazpinto6261Ай бұрын
    • Not enough people talk about why space travel is not only pointless but also pointless, and likely pointless.

      @MadScientist267@MadScientist26729 күн бұрын
    • @@MadScientist267 This is why I honestly think space colonization will never actually happen. No one wants to sacrifice what they have on earth unless you're a nerd.

      @poetryflynn3712@poetryflynn371224 күн бұрын
    • @@poetryflynn3712 "That's why I honestly think that new world colonisation will never happen, nobody wants to sacrifice what they have in Europe unless you're a religious extremist".

      @scotthillard3418@scotthillard341823 күн бұрын
    • ​@scotthillard3418 Exactly lol, we aren't changing our nature anytime soon.

      @nickmorzinski5558@nickmorzinski555813 күн бұрын
    • ​@@poetryflynn3712I don't know who this "no one" is, but it certainly isn't me. The first chance I get I'm jumping ship to something new.

      @spiderlord4181@spiderlord418112 күн бұрын
  • Excellent quality deep(ish) post's there, Dr. Miles !

    @ashleyobrien4937@ashleyobrien493728 күн бұрын
  • I felt like "I" was being bombarded with high energy information in this video, I loved it. The amount of information injected into my brain by Dr Miles was amazing, as was the subject. Wow, what a high energy rush! Love the information available on this channel.

    @drfirechief8958@drfirechief895824 күн бұрын
  • Brilliant explanations of some very interesting science 👍

    @geogeek1758@geogeek17586 күн бұрын
  • Very interesting explanations. Thank you very much!

    @user-li7ec3fg6h@user-li7ec3fg6h26 күн бұрын
  • Fascinating! Well done.

    @Gan_Gineandro@Gan_Gineandro9 күн бұрын
  • Love your content. Thanks!

    @phlanxsmurf@phlanxsmurfАй бұрын
  • "It will be an exciting FIELD to watch for the next few years" I see what you did there

    @experimentalcyborg@experimentalcyborgАй бұрын
  • Subbed. Since I was a child, I have believed that we need, artificial gravity, shields, and fusion. I have given up on fusion, but we need dual nuclear generators, one breeder and one normal to share the fuel rods between them. We can do all this now I think, but rotating a space station is an immense undertaking.

    @viperswhip@viperswhip25 күн бұрын
    • There have been many inventors that have been deleted from the world because of those types of inventions/patents. Shadow govs/corpos are to blame for humanity's lack of progress past petro.

      @guillermorobledo2842@guillermorobledo28426 күн бұрын
  • this is a much better video than the average and definitely better than expected despite title aluding to it being goody good good i didnt expect it to be juicy good. Positively surprised here.

    @ZionistWorldOrder@ZionistWorldOrderАй бұрын
  • There are two other older designs that I know of. I have the papers somewhere but I'm moving house so they will be impossible to find for a while. One used long kilometer diameter cable loops with charge flows producing a big but low power magnetic field. This trades size for mass and complexity. Field strength is low but the large field means the particle is pulled to the center of the loop. The habitats are close to the loop. There are too versions. One standing on poles on the moon protecting habitats there and one held circular by cable based mass torsion systems. Two counterrotating cables tethered to the other. Centrifugal force holds them circular at low mass. The other proposed system clads the ship with magnetic sheets and fires a particle beam an the very low angle. The magnetic fields bend the beam around the hull forming a migma sheathe. A electron beam fired astern helps. The result is a sheathe of particles going at right angles to the hull. Any dangerous particles are either deflected or entrained. Both were in the British interplanetary society magazine years ago.

    @hatac@hatac25 күн бұрын
  • You should check out the Boeing patents for the plasma shield. Pretty cool way to tank particles and all kinds of stuff. No details but I think it uses lasers to create a plasma and devices to control the magnetic fields to form the plasma into a shield. Stops bullets and even photons.

    @Randomknob@Randomknob24 күн бұрын
  • Dude, it makes sense. Radiation hat for the crew. Crew hat. Cheers!😊

    @DavidThePatriot@DavidThePatriot29 күн бұрын
  • Awesome video, thanks for all the work you put into it! How much do we need to worry about high energy electromagnetic waves / photons compared to the high energy particles? Would we need to include additional engineering for that, or is that not as much of a concern? And if it is a concern, how much of a challenge is it?

    @Ri-ver@Ri-verАй бұрын
    • electromagnetic forces are carried by photons, and with high enough energy this gets into gamma radiation. This can't be stopped by any electromagnetic field of any kind, so the only way we have to shield against anything like that now is dense mass, as in lead, other metals or as starship plans it, water. Some plans (ideas at this stage) would be that certain compartments of starship with be shielded by among other things the water which is brought along the journey, so when they are at risk of coming across large amounts of gamma radiation the crew would shelter inside said compartments. This doesn't eliminate the problem though, and at this stage this is the best we got. Photons can interact with electrons however, so if any electromagnetic shielding were able to hold/lock electrons in place as an extra barrier, that could possibly help (in my uneducated guess)

      @Nidvard@NidvardАй бұрын
  • Someone is going to say "Awesome! We have energy shields now!", thinking that these shields will protect our spaceships from enemy weapons fire. NOT! This shielding will only deflect harmful particle radiation, up to a certain energy level. It will not stop lasers, missiles, bullets, fast moving meteors, or even slow moving ones. And if the ship is on a collision course with an asteroid, better change that course as quickly as possible; otherwise the ship will be like a splattered bug on the surface of the asteroid. For particle radiation deflection, this is actually a great breakthrough. As we continue to develop the technology, it will soon be miniature enough to be practical on all spacecraft. The biggest obstacle to its practicality is at this time, weight, which adds more to what the ship's thrusters must accelerate to the desired speed, meaning more weight in the form of fuel and its containers. Now there is some promising experiments concerning massless thrust, but it is still in its infancy! Still there have been some small amount of successes in the studies and experiments. If these two technologies become practical, and can be used in one ship at the same time, it will revolutionize the space travel industry.

    @l.clevelandmajor9931@l.clevelandmajor9931Ай бұрын
    • Weight of the system is one thing, but also the weight of any energy production to keep this up. To get the weight into place can soon be done rather easily when starship becomes viable. And if this is used for a interplanetary transport system the logistics of weight becomes less significant, also because such a transport system can be set to an continuous orbit with intercepts both earth and mars

      @Nidvard@NidvardАй бұрын
    • Unfortunately, kinetic barriers (to protect against kinetic weapons or asteroids) may not be possible, unless there are new physics yet to be discovered.

      @bgsmember3650@bgsmember3650Ай бұрын
    • @@bgsmember3650 more or less all weapons used in human history are kinetic weapons.. And we have good ways to deal with those, it's a new invention called "wall"

      @Nidvard@NidvardАй бұрын
  • Excellent video, thanks

    @iamnickmartin@iamnickmartin28 күн бұрын
  • Wow, you didn't lose me once. That was an impressive summary.

    @necromental@necromental3 күн бұрын
  • Interesting, thank you!

    @brodyalden@brodyaldenАй бұрын
  • 'Water Armour' lining the inside of the outer walls of the spacecraft may be a good alternative that would protect against a great deal while doubling as water storage that wouldn't consume additional resources or require energy

    @hovant6666@hovant66667 күн бұрын
  • What a gem. Subbed!

    @justsayjay@justsayjayАй бұрын
  • I love your excellent grammar and pronounciation. And, of course, your contents as well.

    @vanitacabral4951@vanitacabral495127 күн бұрын
  • Perhaps finding a way to get them to work in tandem. Radiation is still energy, if it could harnessed, the deflected rays energy used to help power the magnetic shield, be interesting. ^.^

    @LearndingLife@LearndingLife27 күн бұрын
  • Nice one Ben

    @LettersAndNumbers300@LettersAndNumbers300Ай бұрын
  • With the correct mix of materials a force field can be produced that is impenetrable by even light . It allows things inside the field to occupy a spectrum of the fabric of space time that is not visible.

    @jamesgreenler8225@jamesgreenler822528 күн бұрын
  • The most important thing to remember is that the weight problem isn’t as big as it seems at first - once you have a particle repulsor shield, just dump particles into it and you have an engine

    @Pentross@Pentross28 күн бұрын
  • Is this why the electrostatic grid requires much lower voltages than originally calculated: instead of trying to apply an equal electric force to stop the charge particle in its tracks, the grid applies a force at right angles and adds a velocity component at right angles to the initial direction of motion causing the charge particles to miss the central area where the crew is? Edit: Kind of like how judo, rather than blocking the punch, redirects it allowing the blow to keep much its original momentum except it's directed away from the person.

    @CrossoverManiac@CrossoverManiacАй бұрын
  • Great video, and exciting ideas! Maybe we'll actually "make it out there" one of these days. I've always thought it's our "natural next step." It's all out there just waiting for us - why stay cooped up in the house we were born in?

    @KipIngram@KipIngram27 күн бұрын
  • Awesome.

    @norbertdapunt1444@norbertdapunt144416 күн бұрын
  • Amazing

    @leverge1@leverge1Ай бұрын
  • Thanks for dumbing that down enough to be informative AND entertaining. Very consumable content, for such a deep and complicated subject. I’m still waiting for ge and cern to get together and create that time travel machine that Titor was talking about…. 🤷‍♂️🤯🎯😝 ANY DAY GUYS! GET ON WITH IT!

    @NoGreedSeeds@NoGreedSeeds7 күн бұрын
  • @DrBenMiles as an accelerator physicist, by and large I liked your video. However, I do have a comment about you saying what is achieved by old school particle smashers only being in the MV range, especially when showing what appears to be a synchrotron animation. What you said was true about electrostatic fields ie Van de Graaf accelerators, etc. However cyclotrons and synchrotrons are not limited to the MV range. Otherwise we wouldn't have TeV protons at LHC at CERN. The difference is time dependent fields in microwave cavities, that can get up to TeV energy gains with a closed loop or GeV energy gains in linear systems like SLAC. If you were, however, talking about accelerating gradients, in units of energy per unit distance, MeV/m, for example, you would be roughly correct. Our best microwave accelerators still only have gradients around a few 100MeV /m. Luckily we have plasma acceleration, dielectric accelerators, etc, which push the gradient up to GeV or even TeV per meter. It may be possible, with enough plasma density and energy in a laser pulse or particle beam, to get up to EeV or ZeV / m gradients before the high energy density physics gets so interesting that the plasmas are too unstable to provide that gradient over an appreciable distance. Good luck out there!

    @JoshtMoody@JoshtMoody21 күн бұрын
  • Very interesting!

    @michaelmullenfiddler@michaelmullenfiddler24 күн бұрын
  • If this ends up ever being scalable, or if whatever is grows out of this, it would be a huge discovery

    @kevinsayes@kevinsayes29 күн бұрын
  • I saw a documentary back in the early 90s that talked about how a factory that produced sheet plastic like cellophane. There was a walkway where the sheet was directed overhead then back down. Under certain conditions it would create a static barrier. People couldn't walk through it and the researcher was amazed to see a fly stuck inside it unable to escape.

    @nathanhale7444@nathanhale744427 күн бұрын
    • That's a very interesting documentary!

      @nickmorzinski5558@nickmorzinski555813 күн бұрын
  • So it seems that deflecting ability increases with voltage applied. Divert power to deflectors, indeed, Mr. Spock.

    @benjaminbaumgart3935@benjaminbaumgart393524 күн бұрын
  • The proper conductors and or semi conductors can do things we haven't discovered yet regarding force fields

    @jamesgreenler8225@jamesgreenler822528 күн бұрын
  • A third problem are the collisions with the interstellar medium with a rapidly moving spacecraft. I'm working with the Breakthrough Starshot communications team, looking at how to communicate with laser-driven sailcraft moving at 0.2c. Erosion due to the ISM is a significant problem.

    @paulblase3955@paulblase3955Ай бұрын
    • This is a correct and the effect is well known. The solution can be found in my post above.

      @debrainwasher@debrainwasherАй бұрын
  • Very cool!

    @Scott_C@Scott_C27 күн бұрын
  • I wonder if we could absorb and harness the energy rather than deflect it. A conductive layer of shielding over an array of micro wireless chargers and a base layer of conductive shielding. A layer of h2o would further absorb any residual particles and dually act as a salt water capacitor. A regulating circuit to sense the incoming voltage and charge a stepped down high voltage capacitor bank. The capacitor(s) would then drain to charge the onboard batteries For very large bursts of energy we could include a switched drain circuit powering the tesla coil like shielding. For directed energy weapons with smaller implications a general use shield could incorporate this and power up a tungsten or quartz headlight to dissipate the energy.

    @cjhsuliman13@cjhsuliman1311 күн бұрын
  • Pardon my question, but what about a hybrid or plasma approach? I was looking at active drag reduction and plasma actuators and plasma control surfaces for some of my designs and I was wondering if an embedded high-voltage/magnetic skin with said emitters would work? Especially if there was a way to print it? The idea to create an intense field to slow or redirect the particles, yes? It doesn’t need to cover the interior, just the exterior.

    @ADHSV113@ADHSV11327 күн бұрын
  • I'd imagine the optimal radiation shield would take incoming particles and immediately dump and convert all the energy of the incoming particle into spatial expansion, basically turning the kinetic energy into new planck lengths of spacetime that get spawned into the universe. How would this be accomplished? Use the energy to drag space from a 4th dimension into the 3rd dimension, the only problem is we would need an interface with the 4th dimension to do this.

    @Xabraxus@Xabraxus9 күн бұрын
  • How about creating a Bussard collector to gather ions into the center of a magnetic pipe then spew them out the rear at a higher speed? Basically an Ion thruster using outside ions as reaction mass.

    @maschwab63@maschwab637 күн бұрын
  • why not combine both approaches. Have the magnetic wrapped by the electrostatic deflection. Both could be at lower power/magnetic levels and offer the same deflection hopefully combining the advantages of both rather then the disadvantages of both.

    @brettgoldenbloome7036@brettgoldenbloome7036Ай бұрын
  • The other problem with electrostatic repulsion to stop charged particles, aside from the crazy high voltages needed, is that what stops things of one charge only makes those of the opposite charge worse. Magnets can bend both types aside - albeit to opposite sides, but that's fine.

    @diddykong3100@diddykong310020 күн бұрын
    • So doubly cool that someone worked out how to navigate round the problem ;^>

      @diddykong3100@diddykong310020 күн бұрын
  • Deflecting particles instead of slowing them down is a simple but genious idea no one thought about until recently.

    @GameModder@GameModder24 күн бұрын
  • Be interesting to see what they come up with...and if its possible in our lifetime .

    @gregm6801@gregm6801Ай бұрын
  • A matrix with electric charge over a dielectric region. Their cage-like models demonstrate the principle, but have gaps in the protection. Their solution was to add an additional offset layer. I would instead work with the scale; at the lower limit, they're describing a capacitor. Incorporate electrodes in the lamination of the hull. If it needs a more complicated structure, treat it as a metamaterial problem.

    @russellmitchell9438@russellmitchell9438Ай бұрын
  • With the grid technique is the total radiation quantity reduced or is it just redirected into a quilt pattern?

    @kevinkroll2898@kevinkroll289813 күн бұрын
  • On one hand, I would not have thought cooling in space was a problem since space is cold. On the other hand, I wonder how feasible it would be to use space to cool superconductive materials. If there is heat transfer to space then I supposed it must be radient because there are probably not enough particles to relay on a conductive approach. It would be interesting to hear you explain whether or not the concept of space cooling of superconductors is feasible.

    @donald-parker@donald-parkerАй бұрын
  • The shape of the shielding on the electrostatic model makes me suspect that the particles that would have struck the shielded areas are simply being directed onto the unshielded areas. That's fine if you can shield the entire region occupied by the spacecraft, but layering offset shields won't do the trick. Particles that pass through the unshielded areas of the first layer would get redirected into the unshielded areas of the 2nd layer. The only way laering would work is if you can preferentially redirect incoming particles in one direction. Each layer redirects away from the spacecraft in the center, so whatever particles that get through one layer have a chance to get redirected away by the next. IDK if that's possible or not.

    @darthrainbows@darthrainbows26 күн бұрын
  • 14:26 One step beyond is the RAM-scoop. Deflect the particles into a material chamber, and expel as thrust on the back end of the vessel. Mere field tech and hardly new actually. 14:51 They can use a mere cyclotron for testing purposes. In nature NTL (near transfer of light) hadrons are unlikely. If any vessel is moving at like 0.1 LS (c) the particles they encounter the most would not exceed 0.2 LS, which can be created artificially by a cyclotron. Specially single protons. The problem isn't these charged protons, but the actual non-charged colloidal matter particles. They'd need ionisation before they can be deflected by any field.

    @ZMacZ@ZMacZ13 күн бұрын
  • Idk how they can stack that mesh to make it cover the holes in shielding coverage because the particles are simply deflected around those nodes and would become concentrated around the second layer of nodes, effectively undoing the deflection of first layer

    @armwrestlerjeff@armwrestlerjeff6 күн бұрын
  • So they made an electrostatic shield at a 3M (sellotape and film) factory by accident. There's a few snippets of info about this out there, but it happened before the Internet was popular. I'd love to see a proper mini-doc on this as most vids here on KZhead are very short.

    @arachnohack9050@arachnohack905022 күн бұрын
  • I had heard that there was a third off shoot to the other two approaches that involve injecting a plasma into the charged area that enhances the effectiveness of the electrostatic approach because the particles of the plasma have their own mass and charge too. Could you add a video addressing this other approach? I think they call it the artificial magnetosphere method.

    @i-love-space390@i-love-space39027 күн бұрын
  • I wonder if the recent break-throughs concerning virtual magnetic fields generated by meta-materials will play into this development down the line.

    @H4hT53@H4hT53Күн бұрын
  • 5:49 Lightning actually just struck outside when I saw this at the same time! THAT MATRIX UPDATE IS GREAT!

    @ristube3319@ristube331927 күн бұрын
  • The ideal form of a magnetic field is a sphere. Why don't we construct a spherical ship with a kind of superconductive permanent magnet that can be electrically amplified if necessary? The thick shell inside the sphere could also be shielded in the conventional way and individual layers could be polarized differently.

    @MrEasterrabbit@MrEasterrabbit4 күн бұрын
  • I would love to see the grid tested at various angles, perhaps those results are hidden for further development

    @timothyg967@timothyg96726 күн бұрын
  • This Doctor has the coolest Liverpool Accent. I thought I was listening to Ringo Star teaching astrophysics.

    @fistpunder@fistpunder25 күн бұрын
  • High energy particles... Seems to me. We could use the energy to reinforce the magnetic Deflecting shield. Using the particle against itself. The stronger the particles.. the stronger the shielding. So you need like a particle collector into a reactor. Which is turned Into Plasma Energy..? Idk.. Mind swirling stuff. Cool to think about.. Constructive interference Waves. Thanks for the update. A Veteran 1Cav. Age 67.

    @user-pu2ho4ip3d@user-pu2ho4ip3d11 күн бұрын
  • Uhm pretty sure we are already fielding experimental plasma shield on the battlefield. I read an article saying that boeing had a system it was testing on abrahams tanks. Its thin panels of explosive charge on all sides of the tank and some kind of radar or ultrasonic detection system surrounding the tabks peripheral. When it detects an incoming rocket, it detonates the plates facing the munition, yhis produces a shockwave of compressed atmospheric gases. Then microwave emitters send out a powerful pulse in the same direction, the pulse ionizes the shockwave of compressed air creating a wall of plasma that detonates the incoming munition at a safe distace that wont penetrate the tank armor. Im not sure if they are fielding this yet or if it was just in testing stage, but i do remember it was boeing that was developing it. Not sure how useful it would be in space without atmosphere to create plasma but it's still pretty interesting tech for here on earth, hopefully they find something more positive to use it for besides warfare 🤷🏽‍♂️

    @Bj-en1qx@Bj-en1qx10 күн бұрын
  • Would a bunch of strong neodymium magnets lining the habitat be enough to protect you inside?

    @nzoomed@nzoomedАй бұрын
  • IMO the second layer of the grid EM shield will not work as expected the high energy particles are deflected to the places between the "shadows" this means that the next layer would again deflect it to a pattern similar to only one layer..

    @amitrokach5803@amitrokach5803Күн бұрын
  • 32 Mev/m is not the record for rf high energy accelerators. Your number likely comes from recent superconductor cavities, normal conductor in copper rf cavities have performed at gradients up to 3x this running at over 100Mev/m. I worked on tests at Slac often with these cavities.

    @xband@xband25 күн бұрын
  • meanwhile ernst brüche, tektronix and basically every CRT based oscilloscope has used electrostatic deflection the math behind hit is well understod. the ability to deflect beams of high energy with low potential fields has also been known about and used for well over 100 years now. The only novel thing i have seen is the idea to create an electrostatic lens array that reduces the total radiant power at a large distance.

    @lbochtler@lbochtler25 күн бұрын
  • Cool. we need to start working on it. Arthur C. Clarke & Stephen Baxter wrote a Book named - Sunstorm. the sun shield concept is widely discussed. actually it's part of a Trio named - Time's Eye, Sunstorm & Firstborn. Wonderful audiobooks online by John Lee.

    @diraziz396@diraziz39628 күн бұрын
  • At 13:29 your graphic says "phosphorus screen" but you say "phosphor screen". I'm pretty sure you meant what you spoke and that's a typo on the graphic. It was a phosphorescent screen right? All is forgiven, just letting you know. Great video!

    @crypticgamma6308@crypticgamma630824 күн бұрын
  • I've come up with four force field systems, the first is the same as Bell labs a static discharge, the second electromagnetic induced eddy currents in incoming metal, the third graphene balloons, the fourth using high frequency increasing amplitude longitudinal mono-polarised waves that would combine at a certain distance, as higher amplitude longitudinal waves travel faster than lower amplitude ones.

    @martinwilliams9866@martinwilliams986629 күн бұрын
  • could you instead of stopping the particles, deflect them? think of a funnel... could there also be a way to use that outlet as a power source? think like a hydro power plant,.. directing the flow of the particle through a space to create a variance that could be utilized. i know we use solar power systems in space.. and nuclear decay. i had a fancy idea to use temperature variances thou... like a geothermal power or steam/boiler power generator. the light side of a vehicle can get much hotter than the dark side of one. but i've never heard of it being done in space. i'm also guessing it would be different the closer you are to a light source. if created maybe that could help generate power as well?? just not sure if it can be done using the particles that are deflected/slowed etc.

    @eugeneminton2613@eugeneminton261313 күн бұрын
  • What if you place charged shield deflector far away from the craft, essentially scatter anything coming in and diffuse with distance Eg bigger shadow Is most of the radiation from the sun, could you more heavily protect that side and save the budget on the other sides

    @michaelcombrink8165@michaelcombrink816527 күн бұрын
  • This isn't my field, and I am new to the channel so forgive my ignorance but would it be possible to reduce the drain on the craft's power by converting some of the high energy particles into a power source to at least power the shield?

    @islandsedition@islandsedition29 күн бұрын
  • electrostatic mitigation of lunar dust and martian dust on solar panels is an old thing yet we speak today as if these are still discoveries to be made, how does that relate to shields? Perhaps these are also ahead of mainstream the way military tech is often ahead of commercial..?

    @ZionistWorldOrder@ZionistWorldOrderАй бұрын
    • This does not relate to shields. Military tech gets their components from the same factories that produce components for commercial products.

      @Nidvard@NidvardАй бұрын
  • I got some bad news: two of those deflector shields will still give 50% shielding. Just look at the image, it's brighter in between the shadows. Instead, you'll probably want something with concentric circles, so that particles will be deflected to the side, rather than in between the gaps of a grid.

    @simleek6766@simleek676627 күн бұрын
  • It makes me happy just to know that some day astronauts will be able to say "SHIELDS UP!"

    @kobayashimaru8114@kobayashimaru811427 күн бұрын
  • 5:37 MeV and MV are two different animals. Mega electron Volts is a measure of power and mega-volts is half of the equation to determine power. Where are the amps or whatever?

    @freehat2722@freehat2722Ай бұрын
    • He used the righ terms...

      @lafeechloe6998@lafeechloe699829 күн бұрын
  • Good video.🌸🌸🌸

    @AishaShaw-cl6wc@AishaShaw-cl6wc28 күн бұрын
  • Radiation and high velocity impacts too. One step nearer interstellar travel...

    @spaceman9599@spaceman959923 күн бұрын
  • The most hypothetically phieasable mode would look like Alpha at CERN as it could in theory turn the subatomic particle into energy, namely X-ray energy, upon contact and annihilation.

    @richardstarkey71@richardstarkey7127 күн бұрын
  • The CME threat it real, unlike the climate. The technology for static, EMP, lightning, and transients protection can work on power plants and substations, but we are not doing it.

    @tnekkc@tnekkcАй бұрын
  • It would be nice to use the energy of those photons as we slow them down.

    @rudygermain4236@rudygermain423627 күн бұрын
  • The further you are from a magnetic field, the further your own magnetic field extends. A spacecraft in deep space could have a deflection region several AU in diameter while it is in interstellar space, and we don't really have a way to test that on Earth outside of computer modeling. I wonder if a design could take advantage of this property in order to deflect particles using drastically lower force, just by deflecting them for a longer period of time while also not needing to alter their angle as much.

    @TheReaverOfDarkness@TheReaverOfDarkness27 күн бұрын
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