Old West Myth vs. Reality: Firearms
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Couldn’t stop laughing when Santee went flying off. Good thing I had my coffee ☕️ sitting down. Great video. Keep ‘em coming.
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@Arizona Ghostriders 👍
@Keith Davies I've touched on them in many videos, since they were prevalent on the Frontier.
@Arizona Ghostriders Hi pal,UK here. I'm new to this ,but really enjoyed it. Have you done anything on your civil war arms and ammo?
i choked on my soda 😂
Yep, we sure get used to no recoil when doing our gunfights for the audiences we perform for. There's quite a bit of difference in those and the real thing. Hollywood makes it look easy and we do the same, but the truth is, a full powered round can be punishing. I still recall the kiss on the eyebrow that a scoped .308 Norma Magnum hunting rifle gave me shooting it the first time. The owner, a WWII Ranger in the Pacific theater who later homesteaded in Alaska told me, "It kills everything in front of and mames everything behind.".
I own mosin nagant made in 1942 and there is no doubt it saw the action it kicks like mule too.....I called the ambassy of Ukraine told them that I would volunteer to join the legion and take this rifle back to the battlefield with all the ammo I have.......they said no guns across the border.....so the old mosin will stay in the safe and shoot maybe one day on the range if I get call up papers and will return......
try the .358 Norma Magnum here is a real fun gun to shoot. A killer on both ends.
@Big Bill yes, he fondly spoke of the Garand.
@Arizona Ghostriders And the M-1 Garand shot the .30-06, which kicked harder. Although, the ranger in question may have used an M-1 Carbine, which kicked a lot less.
Yes, wow a .308 is a gi round.
Santee’s editing sure is getting good! Great video!
Thanks!
I am a novice with firearms, but thoroughly enjoyed watching. All of you guys gave a great explanation, that I could keep up. Thanks 😊!
You're welcome.
Wow that editing for Santee flying away was awesome!
Thanks so much!
I wish I could experience shooting some of those old west guns but unfortunately it's not really possible where I live so I'll settle for watching you and your friends have fun with them.
@Max Lutz i don’t think it’s the black powder community but the gun community as a whole most people are chill unless you meet crazies or ruffians But I’d prefer not being around those people when they have guns
@William H. Bonney Excellent option!
If it's a case of gun laws preventing you then you could always settle for an airsoft or bb alternative, I own a Barra Schofield that shoots real well and feels like the real thing
@Arizona Ghostriders That´s one of the amazing things about the blackpowder and CAS communities. Ask and you will - most likely - be given. Sometimes you get offered without asking just because they are nice folks. I try to keep that spirit alive too.
Hopefully one day. Come to visit and any number of folks will be happy to share with you
Good morning Santi. I definitely definitely enjoyed this episode. I love the fact that you were using accurate loads to shoot the guns. I also was excited to see that you were using your authentic weapons of the time. I definitely live American history and the history of the old west that you bring alive. Stay safe
Much appreciated!
One my favorite is Glen Campbell in “True Grit” shooting the turkey with a 50 caliber Sharps Carbine with absolutely no recoil! As for “I don’t see how anyone could hit anything fanning the hammer” … your in good company, Wyatt Earp agreed.
Thanks for the extra info!
That recoil sending Santee flying out caught me off guard 🤣
Me too!
Never forgot the first time I shot a full match with BP cartridges - no breeze whatsoever and using full power loads. Had to literally pause to find the targets! Brings a whole new light to those shootouts that happened in saloons and why everyone would be hitting the deck. I read somewhere that due to the non-uniformity of commercial ammo, folks would re-prime the brass, load black powder and sink a round ball into the case, and was known as a "Cavalry Load" (dunno if this is the truth or not). Also know how your shoulder feels; the 50-140 has a stout kick! Thanks again Santee!
You are likely referring to a “gallery load” that was load with a light charge for practice. The Carbine load was .45-70-405, Original military load was .45-70-500, but being on horseback and cavalry soldiers usually being on the smaller, lighter side, tended to knock them off the back of the horse. There was also a “sentry”load that used 3 round balls stacked on top of each other for short range shooting similar to a shotgun with double aught buckshot, as well as a few other special purpose uses, such as used in some officer’s model and target model 1873 Springfields.
@Arizona Ghostriders Fun story; first buffalo rifle match I went to, I had an '86 Trapdoor and was waiting for the first shot to go downrange. 50 feet to one side, someone was popping rounds out of an AR-15. A few seconds later, the hammer of God sounded as someone lit off a 50-90. I looked over and saw the massive cloud of smoke going downrange, and immediately yelled out "I gotta get me one a those!"
Yeah, it didn't really hurt that much. I was just acting. I only shot about 4 rounds. Great stuff, tho
Great episode Santee. True about the lack of recoil in movies. Reenactments are the same. Our cannon doesn't really recoil with blanks. Hard to give that illusion. Keep up the great videos. 👍
@Arizona Ghostriders too funny Santee! Thanks brother!
I'd say it is hard to that with a cannon. LOL! However, you have to try. These "Cannon Actors" can be difficult to work with.
Thanks for a fun trip to introduce non-shooters to the reality of recoil. I recall that modern powders burn but black powder explodes and it, therefore, gives a greater recoil then does smokeless powder. Also the huge lead bullets at half and ounce gives a pretty good rearward jolt on its own as it’s suddenly accelerated. I hope your shoulder heals soon. 😉 That’s some great acting Santee!
Black powder burns.
@Tom Jackson LOL! Yes...
@Arizona Ghostriders Remember for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, unless you are married.
Thanks and recoil is always something to be respected and learned from.
You mentioned the smoke, that's another inaccuracy in the movies that anyone who has shot black powder will notice. Not nearly enough smoke depicted. If you fire a flintlock inside, everyone will be going outside. Great video. Always drink upstream from the herd.
I plan to do one inside one of the saloons where we depict just that. I will wear a cam on my glasses or hat to show the lack of visibility after the first shot.
Love the video. I couldn't say it better myself. Its fun to shoot a old gun . it's really fun shooting proper antique loads. And add that together you get a small understanding of life back them Snapper needs a Sharps rifle
@Arizona Ghostriders when I used to have that kind of money laying around there was a 36-month wait for a Shiloh Sharps. Now there's no wait and I don't have that sort of money laying around.
@Squiblift Yeah. Too rich for my blood.
Not sure if there's still a waiting list for a Shiloh Sharps. They are pricey.
There's something magical about it.
Lol makes since when we last talked you were shooting a sharps
Thank you Santee for keeping the Old West alive and making me laugh !
You're welcome.
Thank you all. This conversation has been had more than once between shooters and new shooters around here. Keep them coming. This one was great 👍 🤠
Our pleasure!
Great one it's amazing to see people who have never shot black powder react to the recoil and the smoke thanks for sharing
When I take my black powder shotgun for doves, people think it's funny to ask "Is it supposed to rain today? I see clouds over Doug's stand!"(weisenheimers...)
You're welcome.
God I love how accurate u guys are that’s one magnificent thing I appreciate about this Chanel love u guys and all that u do if I had the money I would try it myself me being a history buff seeing u guys doing this gives me hope for the rest of the youth of today I grew up watching westerners and watching this channel makes me feel like a kid in a candy store thanks guys
You're welcome.
Not sure why I missed this one. I am pleased there are those people who go so far with authenticity as to shoot with a weapon which is fully accurate with the period. I feel that anything other than that is not worth trying
It's just downright fun to shoot weapons from any period. It takes you to a place in another time.
That was some kick! Where'd ya land? You hit on my favorite topic Santee and the 1874 Sharps with a 34" barrel in 45-110 is one of my dream guns! Great video!
@Squiblift LOL!!!
@Arizona Ghostriders you could have gotten a Polar Pop while you were there.
@Arizona Ghostriders 🤣
Thank you! I landed in San Tan Valley somewhere near a Circle K
I’m loving my black powder firearms. Take forever to load, but great fun to shoot.
Yes!
Thanks for another great video Santee! That old 50-120 Sharps Bottleneck was considered a monster stopper back in the day and would still be Big Medicine even on Kodiak Bars (Davy killed him one on a tree when he was only three) today!
Yes!
Another great episode. I'm currently working on a single action rig for a gentleman with a crossdraw and fold over holster on a ranger belt. I hope he enjoys it as much as I enjoyed making it.
That's awesome and I bet he will.
All thanks for exploring some of the reality disconnected from the fictions we so willingly embrace. Also, appreciations for showing some of the differences between black powder (aka gunpowder, pre-1890s) and smokeless powder - I've read that, in unventilated indoors, black powder smoke is similar in effect to tear gas. The lightheartedness is deeply appreciated, and agreed on that pesky Newton's Third Law - Santee's reaching escape velocity kind of made up for Hollywood's past crimes of omission.
Thanks!
Great episode and I love the humor on this one! It is interesting to think of the recoil not being there in the films but the impact sure is. I think anyone who has ever hunted understands it.
Thank you!
Thanks so much for this excellent episode. Those are some fine guns and some good shooting. I love these old timey guns. I enjoyed seeing Dustin in there too. I have several of these old timey guns. Fun Times for sure!
Much appreciated!
Thanks Santee! I enjoy learning about old firearms and ammunition. Hope your shoulder is recovering 😉
Yeeow
I was always a big fan of the 10 and 20 shot "six-shooters" in the Westerns from the 50's.
I don't know if Santee did a video on this, but there was a reason for the Hollywood "miracle gun". Film, and time, costs money, and having to slow down the action, especially in a low-budget production, while everyone is reloading every ten seconds, unless the script required it, of course, would be a waste of time AND film(and, therefore, MONEY)
LOL!
4:45 I’m just dead. 💀 laughing so hard. Great edit Santee!
Thank you!
Another great episode Santee! Shooting historical firearms is so much fun. And just a heads up, I shared Rawhide Western Town with someone who's been running local gaming conventions up here in the Phoenix area, and now he's looking at it for a western themed gaming convention, so we're hoping to do it early next year, fingers crossed. Ideally, we're talking gaming with anything with a western theme, from board games to RPGs, plus all the stuff the venue offers. I'll keep you updated!
Yeah, keep me posted.
Those smooth bore muskets have a special place in my heart. Great video as always!
If you are talking about the .54 cal Hawken, it has a rifled barrel, likely with 1turn in 66 or 72 inches twist to stabilize a round lead ball.
Mine too!
As you guys was shooting a .44-40 rifle, I thought you might have had a .44-40 revolver to compare recoil on both. BTW I was laughing my head off when Santee was sent flying,very good. Keep going!!!!
When I was cowboy action shooting I had both a 44-40 rifle and pistol. I reloaded them to SASS specs. Miss those days. BTW the female shooters were deadly with their weapons 👍
Thanks. I think Twygg may have had a .44 in his stash there.
Another excellent video Santee. As I recall my family history, most of the fathers had strong board shoulders, which made then excellent shooters, but repeatedly shooting one of those rifles often injury them. Another matter taking into account was the wind, they usually fired in the same direction of the wind and not against it, as this left them blind to a counter attack and easy targets. I noticed most of the men in your video were wearing glasses to protect thier eyes, most of the men using rifles in that era didn't wear glasses, and often only fired three to four times before washing/cleaning thier eyes, or simply pull back and allow another shooter to take thier place. Overall a very excellent video.
Thanks. Eye protection is a must nowadays. Especially shooting steel targets, as the lead spatters back.
I've fired some guns that had pretty good recoil but nothing like the one Santee shot, must have been a cannon is disguise. I haven't laughed so much in ages, thanks!
You're welcome.
Great job Santee. I like shooting steel when shooting black powder long guns. This allows me to hear the target ring (I hope) even if I can't see through the smoke. Stay safe. 👍
@Arizona Ghostriders 👍
Yeah! I found that out. Lotta fun.
Santee your videos are just flat out amazing, thank you for this fun and hilarious video.
Much appreciated!
Great video. Covered one of my little pet peeves of Hollywood firearms use. Doesn't matter if it's historic or modern, they often make so many mistakes portraying them it almost hurts if you have real experience with firearms. You got to shoot some fun stuff out there with some guys who look like a great pair to hang out with. 😎 Stay safe out there, and take it easy man. Thanks for the vids. 😎👍
You're welcome.
Very educating video Santee. My son and I loaded up my grandfather's civil war Colt .44 with FFG powder and shot a few rounds. It did have a little punch to it but still fun and manageable to shoot. One of the cylinders was too big where the ball was loose. We just put in a little more paper towel around the ball and it was fine. Keep those excellent videos coming Santee. Skip
Once you get past the first couple rounds, it becomes more manageable.
This going too be AWESOME 👌 👏 👍 you must do more of this ! Have a great black powder weekend!
Thank you!
Very good video lol that sharps has some sharp Recoil !!
Yes it does!
Old Henry has probably the most realistic shootout I've seen in a western. And even in that, some of the time there isnt any recoil, other times there is.
Yeah, I was just on a movie set, and added recoil in the shootout, but others did not. Nobody pushed the issue. I really think folks just forget
Always good to see some firearms history of the Wild American West! Thanks Santee... I hope it was worth it! 🤕
Always
I am glad you showed a clip of Mississippi firing his sawed off shotgun in El Dorado. This is my favorite John Wayne movie and I always wondered, even as a kid, if that gun would really have that much of a recoil and impact. Then again, I've never heard a shotgun that sounded like cannon going off.
Maybe if it was an 8 gauge! Naw, probably not.
Absolutely loved this one! Please do more range episodes, if you can work it in with future topics…thanks.
Thanks. I'll try!
Great video Santee! You played the recoil even better than old Jimmy Caan! I just about shot coffee out my nose!!
LOL! Thanks.
amazing as usual very interesting, I love this series,learn so much from it.
Thank you!
Great video Santee. I have a replica 1873 uberti Winchester, and replica Sharpes and 1873 uberti colt. I love shooting them. Just shooting and holding them makes me think about and imagine what it was like back then. All that history is amazing.
Glad you enjoyed and learned.
I figured the ammunition had always been the same inside the bullets. Very good video!
Hey Sarah
Much appreciated!
Fun video Santee! I agree with the recoil. I like a heavier gun or longer barrel to reduce recoil. Also the 44-40 was a retail cartridge but the Army cartridge 45 LC was a thing, and was in public domain. Thanks for the info, always fun to watch and much to learn. Our next SASS match long range won't have a 54 cal rifle but I'll be shooting 45/120!
Woohooo!
Another great episode, ya did it again! Man, all those historic firearms brought out the five year old, in this history buff and antique weapon enthusiast.
Thank you!
It's fascinating to see the difference between old and new calibers. Modern rounds are relatively small and easy to control while old calibers are absolutely massive and require a ton of strength and concentration to stay on target. Just goes to show how tough men had to be back in the day.
I tried the high velocity 7.62 rifle, and slowly pulled trigger and ended up pointing from 9 -12oclock
Yes!
Think you could do a video on any European imports that made it to the West? I figure there had to be some Greener/Martini-Henry, Webley, and similar guns from across the ocean floating around in the old West.
Sure!
OH MY GOD!! I enjoyed this so much!! Thank you for sharing this!! Kiddo and I loved it! ❤️❤️❤️
Glad you enjoyed it!
That was awesome Santee! Old west guns are some of the best!
They are
Cool! Could you do one on the first semi automatics in the west such as the early pocket pistols or the legendary c96. (I mean the wild west *technically* went into the 1890's, so historically possible.) Or maybe an episode on the early paleontologists! Whatever it is I look forward to watching it. :)
Sure
Great video, haven't gotten a chance to get out shooting for a while now and never with any guns like that but it looked like a blast. Next time you go though, might want to pack a parachute, might make the landings a little softer!
Good idea!
Good episode, guys. Love shooting my “cowboy” guns. Thank you for doing them justice. Another time try the Walker Colt. Mine is a clone since I’m not rich but it only lacks wheels to be an artillery piece!
Heavy sucker!
Very entertaining episode Santee! 👍
Thank you!
Great video. I always laugh my way through the shoot out scenes in most movies knowing how absurd the physics are represented.
As long as you watch 'em!
As usual..mighty informative and entertaining. I noticed a long time ago that actor Buck Taylor, when on Gunsmoke, always added the proper recoil motion when firing blanks. After that, I became aware of how many other western actors didn't, "go thru the motion".
Not showing recoil ain't nothing. I've noticed western movies where you could see power lines in the distance. And all those white faced cows on cattle drives that didn't exist back then. Also guns that hadn't been invented yet in Civil War Era movies. It's fun to watch for. My grandfather made a game of it when we'd watch TVwesterns.
It shouldn't be a deal breaker for anyone when watching a western, but it is interesting to note.
Great video Santee :) always nice to see some shooting and a sharp is high on my wish list :) Keep up the amazing work you do :)
Much appreciated!
Thanks again Santee & Co. I have a shooting replica of a Hawken rifle chambered in .54 . The recoil is a soft push to the shoulder . I own a modern Thompson Center Pro Hunter chambered in .416 Rigby and it will throw you in a loop if you're not braced . The .416 Rigby is late to the Old West period , being introduced in 1911 by the British for hunting the largest of animals .
Interesting. I've limited knowledge of British calibers.
I love this channel. Always something to bring on a smile. Thanks guys from little old me in the UK
Glad you enjoy it!
Great and much needed episode. Good job!!!!!!!!!
Much appreciated!
Interesting and entertaining video. Thanks for posting! Having once tried a "375 Magnum" round on a shooting day, and experienced the serious recoil of that round in a revolver, I seriously doubt anyone would have had the dexterity to shuffle a pack of cards after a "Cowboy Western" film shoot out for several days afterwards. Interestingly enough, "Maddie Ross" manages to fire a Colt Dragoon .44 revolver in the film "True Grit" and it knocks her off her feet. However, when the .44 calibre bullet arrives at the target, (Tom Chainey or Chambers....) travelling at about a thousand feet per second, he is almost completely uninjured, except for a broken rib! In reality, he'd have had a fatal injury, if he had been hit in the torso. Ah the movies, you have to take it all with a grain of salt! Or sometime a whole shovel full of salt! 😜😜.
Gotta love it. Thanks.
I was at a range when I was back in my twenties. A fellow shooter had a Dirty Harry .44 magnum revolver I really admired from the movie. He asked me if I wanted to try it. The recoil was brutal! Obviously not a practical weapon in a firefight.
It is not, in my opinion, a fun gun to shoot. However I imagine a fight would end pretty quick when you start shooting one of those!
I envy you being able to fire those guns. I never was able to fire any, but I have had a few in my hands. A first generation 1873 colt, an 1866 Winchester.
Nice ones
I start laughing at the beginning. Going to the range. You don't go to a range in Arizona you just go to the desert. LOL. Love the little clip when Santee went flying backwards and circles that was hilarious. Great video.
@Arizona Ghostriders I know there's ranges there but so much open desert why pay to use a range. Just go to the nearest wash.
There are legit ranges out here in Arizona. Today, this chunk of desert was our range. Even had a berm to stop the bullets!
LOL, Santee this has to be your best episode ever! Loved it! JT
Thank you!
A friend who worked in the motion picture industry said that the problem with actors faking the recoil was timing. Just a little late and it didn't look fake, but far worse: looking "off," which is more distracting to the audience (their mind starts thinking about it). By not doing the recoil, you didn't have the chance of distracting the audience and they kept their attention to the story at hand. Another issue is retakes, which eat up time on set (and time=money). You have to get the actors and extras back on their starting marks, reset the lights, the focus pull etc. If the shot has bullet hits, whether it be on a character or set, then retakes are even more disruptive (changing clothes, resetting the pyro charges and squibs, repairing the bullet hits on an object, etc). So by sacrificing a tiny bit of realism, the overall story can be told on time and on budget.
True. My experience on set is that nobody thinks about enforcing it. However, in one movie we had a director that wanted it for realism and frequently reminded us between takes.
Bout a year ago i shot my first Hawken .50. It was a Thompson Center and i was coaxed into it since I had previously shot a .45 Kentucky rifle and didn't care for how akward it felt in my hand, though the recoil was managable. The charge was 150 Gr equivelant by volume of Pyrodex RS. I was intimidated but pulled the trigger and surprised that it kicked less than my 8MM Mauser or 30-06. Fell in love with Black Powder from that day forth
Fun rifle to shoot.
Gee, thanks Sante, as a shooter, I already know about the lack of recoil in movies, but now I won’t be able to stop paying attention too! 😡😡😀
LOL!
I use to have a Ruger no. 3 carbine chambered in 45-70, it was still brutal no matter how tight you held it and very few people would even dare to shoot it as it had a metal butt plate and no recoil pad !
Wow, never fired one.
Great content, everyone. Thanks a lot!!
You're welcome.
Good video and a good example of recoil, reducing the powder charge of the 45-70-405 cartridge to 55 grains of black powder (45-55-405) for the 1873 Springfield cavalry carbine, in order to save the troopers' shoulders.
All joking in the video aside, I don't think it's that punishing.
Great Job Santee!!! Nice info and some humor, I look forward to the Saturday visits!! I had forgotten about James Caan's hokey sawed off! Did Val shoot 9 rounds from a 6 gun? Hmmmm!
@Arizona Ghostriders Classic "Hollywood"😂
I believe it was the same gun Kevin Costner used in Open Range. A 12-shot six shooter.
LMBO! Speaking of recoil, at the beginning of an episode of Demolition Ranch, the host shot a revolver chambered in 45-70. His recoil was hilarious, too, especially the squeal.
Hmmmmm!
great video as always young man.i was lucky to grow up before all these crazies laws on guns took place.we could shoot every gun possible and did safely.it was good times then. stay safe and god bless from the old man.
Thank you! Much appreciated!
Great video - a little bit of info about the Quigley Down Under scene shown - they actually swapped barrels on the Sharps long range with an aluminum one for quite a bit of scenes due to the rifle being too heavy to man handle. Iraqveteran8888 has a video where he takes a look at the screen used sharps, a few years ago. I own a modern "copy" of that gun = and at ~15 pounds it gets real heavy real fast due to all the front weight from the 34" octagon barrel - but when shooting from a rest or using shooting sticks (which was the common way back then) it is an awesome experience. True West Magazine (made here in Cave Creek Az!) also has a great issue a few months ago about Tom Selleck , Quigley, and the guns.
It was definitely a heavy barrel. I had trouble keeping on target. Just not used to it.
***Correction: Quigley shot a .45-110 (smaller diameter bullet).***
Santee, can you do a reality check on the Winchester '73 movie' s coin shooting scene? I always wondered, if this was possible.... Great vid, guys, and very funny!!!!!! 😍
Anything's possible. It's pretty doubtful, but who knows?
Really liked the verbal reaction to being coached how to shoot.🤣That's what everybody says.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Wonderful to see these old firearms in such beautiful condition and to see them fired. Next time it would be great to find out the range on them. :)) Oh and if you have time do a google map of Darby, MT. Scroll the left side bar down to photos. Rex has some relatives there !!
I will!! Thank you!
I've often wondered about there being no recoil and especially when the cowboys have endless bullets in their guns in the movies
There is that too.
😂 The ending has me laughing.. go easy on him Dirty Dan 👍🏻 gun smoke!💨
Thank you!
I almost laughed till I cried when Santee got sent flying from the recoil of the rifle.
Good!
Santee, I would love to see a panel discussion with you, John Schneider, and anyone else you choose discussing James Best and his serious take on gun safety on set.
In only one episode of the Dukes of Hazzard,Sheriff Roscoe shot someone & afterwards,James Best refused to have a scene where he'd do that again.
That's awesome. I was part of a livestream regarding this very thing. It came about because of the Baldwin incident. kzhead.info/sun/mpqpYNFuqIuEmYE/bejne.html
Great episode Santee, my Mama used to tell me that "it will feel better when it stops hurting!" More shooting episodes in the future? And just a thought, but have you considered doing videos showing the west from the Native American side, also from the Hispanic angle as well, since so much of our western gear came from the Vaqueros? Thanks, for making getting up on Saturday worthwhile.
LOL! Thanks.
One of my pards in the Circle D Rangers had a very good Matthew Quigley impression complete with a Sharps rifle. When he lets loose with that thing, it sounds like a cannon going off!
Don't doubt it.
Awesome cool and very informative video, I really liked and enjoyed it. Great job and well. I learned a lot about the different rifles of the old west. I’ll be adding the weapons of the old west to by book today alongside the weapons of the Stone Age/ice age.
@Arizona Ghostriders thanks 👍🏼😎🌟 I’ll be writing those into my book tomorrow
Good!
A very nice video once again ! Thank you for all your work Santee
My pleasure!
Loved the video. The Quigley rifle was a 45-110, not a 50-110. Sharps never made a 50-110, they did make a 50-90, like Billy Dixon used at the Adobe Walls fight.
Thanks! Yeah, that was corrected in the comments and in the description field. They may not have made one, but a Sharps' 50-90 will shoot a 50-110 cartridge. Incidentally, the original Sharp's 50-90 load was actually a 50-100! Wow....I feel if you can't kill it with a 50-90....it shouldn't be killed.
Great video Santee, thank you. Shooting a 50 caliber rifle is on my bucket list.
It is a trip
Currently reading a book on Jesse James, the author made an interesting point and that is because black powder weapons are lower velocity, Jesse James survived being shot in the lung due (and I can't explain the technical jargon) to something about how the way lungs work being shot.
Yeah, still surprised he survived
Having shot both black powder and modern cartridges I appreciate the video. I find it funny when they show a shotgun blasting its human target backwards. I never seen that either with my coach gun or my Mossberg and Maverick 12 guages.
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Looks like the wind direction should have been a tactical consideration back then......Might want to get a patent and market those Santee blow-up dummies...... And finally, great to see D.D. back winning friends & influencing us fans of the channel.
He's always around...
We used to go rabbit hunting with our .22s and take my dad's 20 gauge side by side. The fist couple of rounds out of that shotgun was fun, but you learned quickly, to hand it off to your brother. God it would kick like a mule! I don't know how my dad could hunt pheasant all day with it. And he was smaller than us. A friend thought he'd be cool and pull both triggers at the same time. He ended up on his ass after stumbling back about 10 feet.
Them kids gotta learn! LOL!
I really enjoyed the video. I'm totally into black powder cartridge with 45 Schofield, 44 WCF, 45 Colt, 45-55, 45-70 and 12 gauge (with brass casings)..I do a little cowboy action but I still use only the full BP loads for authenticity...again, great video...
Thank you!
The usual top quality, entertaining, informative video... 👏🤠👏
Glad you enjoyed it
Poor Santee, you went flying real high. Interesting video thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!