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For the folks who've seen Joe Hanson's video: we had the same idea at about the same time, and he got his out first! I caught up with Joe a few weeks ago at a conference, gave him a heads up, and we're all good.
"I just want tell you good luck, we're all counting on you!" - I love the 'Airplane!' reference!! 🛬👍
there's another one like this? cool!
Having the two-parts-in-one style video was great! Sometimes they can feel short (only because they're so good and fly by... pun absolutely intended) but when you said "after the break, I'm going to try that without auto pilot" it was like a whole bonus video!
This simulation looks much more realistic compared to the one in that video. I guess it's just newer tech.
@@yuriilev Roger, Roger!
"Tom I need you to listen carefully. It's not actually a simulator. We put you in an actual 737 through a secret door"
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😂😂😂😂😂
That definitely is a good one !
Poor tom😂😂
Enders Game
Tom is now qualified to be a pilot for Ryanair.
Oh so that’s why my plane landed so aggressively. It wasn’t automatic mode because of the fog, they had hired Tom Scott.
@@Ro99 automatic mode? Tf that isnt real. You have assisted landing ig thats what u mean. You still need to give alot of input
@@Finn-pd6jq no idea what it was. They said it was very foggy so they needed to land in automatic mode. They also made us turn our phones off which I didn’t really understand. I was half asleep and I’m no plane expert so I could’ve misunderstood though.
@@Ro99 ah ok. Sorry my bad
Hahahhaha
“Yes Tom, while it is a simulator, the part we didn’t tell you is that due to new stringent guidelines regarding hyperrealism, if you crash, the simulator will actually explode”
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😂😂😂
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"Welcome to Aperture Science Enrichment Center."
@@oceanwonders Imagine that playing as the cockpit door shuts itself behind you. Truly, a horror story. 😂😮
imagine placing a friend in a simulator like this while they are sleeping and they just wake up in a plane alone with the cockpit door locked
That's the evilest thing I can imagine
TV hypnotist Derren Brown did this to a poor guy on a real plane except he put the guy under before reaching the cockpit, and then placed him inside the simulator and woke him up. He was convinced it was real.
😂😂😂😂
@@nikku2402 I wish that was the most evil thing I could imagine
I've seen that movie
Very interesting to see that Tom almost immediately seems to forget it's a simulator, and genuinely seems to panic.
And they’re not even using MSFS2020!
I was panicking and I wasn't even doing anything lol
@@TheFlyingEagle they are
To be fair, he panics in almost every video. It's his natural disposition, it seems. Usually ends up shouting. I feel like he overdoes it at times.
@@genericnerdyt looks like Xplane to me. MSFS is not rated for official training
I have to say I don't even mind this sponsorship way. It was straight to the point, honest and didn't intrude much. Thank you
One of the best sponsorships I have seen to be fair.
@@DipanGhosh tbh him constantly and (presumably) naturally saying that he kept forgetting it was a simulator is probably the deepest advertisement in this pair of videos. And I don't even think it was synthetic, it's an amazing technology.
@@DipanGhosh I would heavily support Tom financing his videos by plugging whoever is providing the training/facilities for the content of the video. Very pure tradeoff and means for monetization, benefits both Tom and the collaborator equally and seems it would lead to more high quality videos such as this one! Always cool to get the information also, to have a chance to try what is seen in the video.
Sponsorblock skipped it easily
Considering the sponsor was the product they used to make the video (which, btw, cost around $7M and $1000/hour to operate)and that the lads got to play with for free for the day, I would say it would have been fair if Tom had embellished the sponsorship more.
I like how Tom is in the co-pilot seat because hes used to British driving
I noticed that too 🤣
“Tom, listen very carefully, you are remotely controlling a real 737”
😂
"Roger that, looking for some towers."
@@jasonshadeslayer1966 9/11 reference is crazy
@@jasonshadeslayer1966 dam
"if you clicked on this thinking that someone had miraculously given an idiot an actual jumbo jet to land.. no" The genuine blunt explanation is why we love you Tom.
That! ...... and the fact that a 737 isn't a Jumbo anyway! (That would be a 747! ) ;)
@@mikedoragh746 i totally thought it was gonna be jumbo
this genuinely is one of the most amazing things about Tom, he has such a specific energy that differs from every other KZheadr, like, he's remarkably good at identifying our emotions lmao
@@vee_g0rilla cry me a river🎵🎼
Tom: "THE PLANE IS SPINNING INTO A NOSEDIVE, THERE IS MASSIVE WIND NOISE, BITS ARE FALLING OFF, EVERYONE IS SCREAMING" Mentour: "yep, that's completey normal, you can disregard that, now set the altitude knob to 3000"
Hahahahahahhahaa.... FUNNY1
lmaoooooo
he must work for ryanair
Right? Lmao! 🤣
I can perfectly imagine Tom saying that in not quite a yelling voice but loud and panicked
"Standby, flying" whilst it appears (and is) funny, shows surprisingly good airmanship from Tom. Flying the aircraft is should always be the number one priority. It sounds obvious, but when you have ATC calling you, alarms or notifications going off, and perhaps most worryingly - no idea where you are - it can be difficult to focus on keeping the plane in the air.
Aviate,Navigate,Communicate
I think he would have done better on his own. Having to listen to and respond to all those commands was too distracting. Especially when you don't have two co pilots and an engineer with you in the cockpit.
@@blastofodefinitely not. Without the instructor, he would have been in the ocean
Not enough people are talking about how knowledgable, concise and nice that other bloke is. Great video made great by both Tom and Petter.
Petter, from MenourPilot (you might have noticed Tom's plane was flying the MenourPilot channel livery) is an air channel who I initially found through his air accident videos (think the old show Mayday, but watchable)
@@Zyo117 I watched this before getting addicted to Mentour Pilot videos, and watching it again after is an absolute treat, seeing Petter teach Tom how to land a plane is brilliant, and also seeing the way that Tom does things that Petter routinely commends pilots for, and also routinely berates pilots for, in his air crash videos, is very fun
@@lilybird4030 I was the opposite. The almighty algorithm never let me know Tom and Petter had done a video until long after I followed both of them. Or well, long after Tom, and a bit of time after Petter.
The reason Petter is very knowledgeable and concise is because, as Tom stated at the start, Petter is a fully trained and qualified pilot and pilot training instructor.
Tom has made a living from going through his bucket list. Respect.
At this point, Tom is everyone's proxy for bucket list fulfillment.
I can tell you that caving was not on his bucket list 🤣
I love being a part of it :)
The video was cut too much and a lot of things were adjusted by cutting the video. It is never possible for a passenger to land the plane by giving a remote command.
@@1Mr.Legend1 it's called editing and sorry to point it out to you but he doesn't land the plane, maybe try watching the video
Chuck Yeager once said “if you can walk away from a landing, it’s a good landing”. So by that metric this was a good landing, but it’d be impressive if Tom crashed a simulator so badly he didn’t walk away.
"The pilot is alive, the plane is in one piece: a successful landing!" - War Thunder
@@squillz8310 it doesn't have to be in one piece, magic engineers can repair it.
@@emmettsimon9487 fax
@@squillz8310 The plane is in one piece because the one piece is reeeaaaalll
another happy landing
This should be a part of pilot training imo. Being able to coach someone down would really test their ability to apply the knowledge theyve learned while not actually being in front of the controls in a really unique way. I learned a while ago that you know you really understand something when you can explain it to someone who has absolutely 0 knowledge of the thing and they walk away with a decent understanding.
You know what , this is absolutely correct. As soon as you try to teach someone else the little spots you yourself are not 100 percent sure about comes to light.
That's a good representation of Feynmann's method, I guess?
It is often a part of atc training
Thats a great idea. Thats actually how i learned for tests in school and uni. I would learn the stuff myself and then i'd "teach" it to someone, a classmate or friend or even a stuffed animal at times.
It would take years of actually being a commercial pilot for most tho. Not everyone can teach what they know.
Once after a particularly bumpy landing (for a normal commercial flight), our pilot got on the intercom and told everyone that was a great landing! Because "a good landing is one where everyone walks away safely, and a great landing is one where everyone walks away safely and you can reuse the plane again." I propose that Tom's (second) landing was an okay landing: one where you crashed, but you crashed exactly where you were expected to
a bad landing is one most don't walk away from, and a horrible landing gets in a mentour pilot video.
The only reason that this even remotely worked, is Tom's communication skills. I've seen very few people control their communication so well in stressful situations as Tom does.
Agreed, his communication was excellent!
Yes! His communication skills and his situational awareness was good too!
Really? Nothing to do with Petter at all, wow very surprised.
For sure, also credits to Petter, but the difference is that for one of them is second nature because his training and experience, and for the other one it is not
@@franexmo81- They are both you tubers, one has no experience of flying a plane and the other has no experience of talking down a non pilot in a plane. So why does the one having things well explain to them need to get all the acclaim?
Tom’s “stand by, flying” had me chuckling. Even with him panicking it’s a perfect demonstration of Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. That said that landing attempt should really have been a go around. Great collab, nice work Tom!
nah that was fine. he brough the aircraft to the airport so job done.
@@sirBrouwer yup! The crash wasn’t that bad and they’re on the ground in the airport so still a win
@@nathanisip in my case i would just panic and just ether stall or dive in to the water not even near the airport.
If you watch Petter's video I think they did a go around a couple of times :)
@@AcousticTelevisions I skimmed through it and it only shows the autopilot landing. Maybe because the manual landing had Petter losing his cool. EDIT: Ok, Petter's video starts with the manual attempt. At no point did Tom go around though. Merely fumbling with headings, altitude and speed. Getting more details on what he needs to know to aviate and navigate. A go around is something you do when you've attempted a glide slope and something goes wrong. Usually you pass over the runway at that point.
"The plane is breaking up, repeate plane is breaking up, the wings have fallen off, the fuselage just split in two, there are fires in the cockpit" "Disregard, that's to be expected Tom, please set flaps to 30 and bring velocity down to 130 knots"
Kudos for that "I just want to with you both good luck, we're all counting on you" reference. Sheer brilliance.
Surely you can’t be serious
@@idioticproductions4000 I am serious, and don't call me Shirley!
@@idioticproductions4000 I am serious, and don't call me Shirley.
I like how Tom didn't even mention that he literally flew a plane blind for a little bit.
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Every time he said "that's normal" I felt like he could have been lying just to keep Tom from falling apart in a panic.
*crash* “That’s normal”
Heh “the ground is coming towards me really quickly”, “that’s normal”. “The left wing has just come off” “that’s normal” 😅
"you're doing very well". Meanwhile the flight pattern looks like a child has drawn on the walls
@@timj6121 Considering it's a Bristishman wearing a Red Shirt who never flew a plane. It's going about as well as could be expected.
Its like code for "of course [that] is happening because you dont know what youre doing!"
Even in a simulator, the words "Im going to land on the taxiway, theres no way i can make the runway" are terrifying.
"do you see the button that says CMD?" "Yes I do!" *Reaches for it* "Don't push it, that controls the autopilot" *Tom yanks his hand back as far as possible*
As a pilot this is hilarious to watch. Absolutely loved it.
I have been flying flight simulators on my computer for 35 years, and it I too think it was hilarious to watch. I have dreamt of flying in a full motion simulator for 30 years.
@@a4d9 There are places that will let you have a go. It’s not cheap, but it’s not prohibitively expensive either.
@@a4d9 you should do it then
As a non-pilot, but avid KSP and DCS player, this was equally as hilarious :D
@@a4d9 In flight school you spend a lot of time in simulators and I always found them much more difficult that actual flying ha
For those who've seen Joe Hanson's similar video: yep, we filmed the same idea at about the same time, and he got his video out much earlier! I met Joe a few weeks ago, gave him a heads up, and we're all good.
Tom I love you
FYI Tom, a 737 is not a "Jumbo" jet, afaik it is the wide-bodied air craft often with three rows of seats, two ailes etc that are classsed as "Jumbo" jets.
I think you should watch "Airplane", you seem to have missed the reference "we're all counting on you!" 😁
Would love to see you two try this again but go head to head and see who does better
@@ThePixel1983 he laughed really hard, I think he got it.
As a 747 passenger I must say you did a great job 👍
In the case of distinguishing these two jets, the 3 and 4 make a big difference buddy
@@HANKSANDY69420but surely a 747 passenger is better then a 737 passenger. 😂
@@HANKSANDY69420As a professional UltraLight Co-Pilot in X-Plane 9, you’re completely wrong, engines 3-4 are only there for cosmetics most the time there’s not even fan blades in it.
@@Watermalone119 *Thank God I'm an FSX player...*
As a 737 autopilot myself. I can say you did a great job!
An autopilot? So, you're the inflatable guy in the FO's seat??
huh
Can we get a heart monitor for Tom on videos like this? I would love to see his heartrate on different aspects such as approach to landing.
Yes!!
Great idea, though Tom's heart rate reads straight from his face :)
As a 737 pilot myself, I can tell you that your touchdown was actually a bit hard indeed but wouldn't have been a crash landing by itself, these simulators are unable to simulate off-runway landings and it gave you a crash visual because you landed partly on the grass. Great job !
I suppose since the simulator is training actual pilots there isn't much value in programming a difference between a very rough landing that would cause injuries, and a landing that would likely kill everyone on board. Both would count as failures equally.
If I may ask, what would have been the actual damage, according to your estimates?
@@michaelhenman8683 You are probably correct, both are scenarios you should avoid under all circumstances. That being said, it would be nice if the simulator would at least have some ability to distinguish between a "survivable incident" and a "lethal incident".
Any landing you walk away from is a good one
@@DGARedRaven landing gear rip off into sliding stop
Hi Tom. I have spend many years flying in sim, including a very realistic PMDG simulator for the 737. I friend of mine is a training captain like Petter and he gave me the chance to have a go in an identical simulator to that one.....but with me doing everything, from starting the aircraft (electrics, hydraulics, engines) to taxiing, take off and landing and you are right - it is incredible how utterly believeable it is.
should be, it's fully certified like the aircraft itself. Everything is supposed to look, feel and react the same as in the plane. Cheers from a CAE employee
I think it shows how intense and stressful flying a plane can be that someone as level headed and rational as Tom literally forgot he was in a simulator for a bit!
And how difficult it is, both technically and emotionally for a guy as smart as Tom to have such a difficult time absorbing basic instructions (heading 240 instead of 180 and then later on 180 instead of 150). I feel like they should've given him one more fly-by so that he could be more prepared for the landing. Poor guy was flying too fast, too high and too far north to land on the runway 😅
21:09 Tom actually exhibits one of the key principles of flying: Aviate, (then) Navigate, (then) Communicate. Priority 1 is always flying your plane safely Priority 2 is knowing where you’re going Priority 3 is communicating
Aviate, Navigate, and then Communicate.
Lets be honest: the older the pilot, the more they say it
Thinking the same thing. Proud of the lad
That's exactly what Petter always disclaims in his documentaries.
No doubt Petter spent the whole time before Tom got in the sim drilling that into his head.
Cannot begin to express how much joy i felt in seeing tom silently yelling about not knowing what he's supposed to be look at
"What's a glare shield????"
@@srahhh Probably Petter's biggest mistake here; otherwise he explained everything nicely but it's hard not to call a thing what it's called and instead use a term general public would call it for the sake of the novice pilot. 🙂
I used to manage and operate an FNPT II sim for a training institute and we used to have the occasional 'tourist'(non-pilot) try it out and one common trait that is a dead giveaway of a complete lack of training and experience is the urgency in their tone and the over-reading of checks and confirmations - perfectly demonstrated here. Something happens in the brain of every aviator during pilot training where you unavoidably develop a calmness and familiarity with the environment that comes through in your communication, its not by design its just something that inevitably happens, this is why when I fly commercial (in the back with the civvy's) if the Cpt or FO sound over eager or urgent I want to get off.
Just finished training a new guy at our refinery, and so much of that training was about just getting the basics right, and allowing the more advanced stuff to come later on the job. Note, it was a full 3 months training for the position, and in my own experience, still 1 year on the job to get fully experienced. Anyway, I'm so going to show him this, so he knows whatever mistakes he makes, he isn't gonna land a 737 on the taxiway. No shade on the guy making the attempt, he did as good as most could be expected.
20:56 The way the editing of the second attempt had the flight path jumping all over the place with every cut was comedy gold.
They cut out a few seemingly long stretches where Tom was effectively going the wrong way. If we couldn't see that map in every other shot we wouldn't have known how long the detour was.
I was hoping they'd show his flight path next to the one that he was supposed to fly for comparison.
@@Cyberguy42 I recommend watching a more complete version of this on Mentour Pilot's channel - slightly more views on the flight path and overall more of the aviation part here.
@@Cyberguy42 I was really hoping they'd show it to Tom, just to see his reaction.
@@Hendlton what I wanted was to see a quick assessment of how badly the aircraft was damaged in his manual attempt.
I'm actually really impressed by this. Not just being able to follow the instructions - the "Standby, flying" as others have pointed out was absolutely perfect. Getting the priorities straight. Tom also communicated really well by the end. Clear and concise messages. He did include a lot of information that wasn't all that important at the time, but he didn't know that. What information he did communicate, he communicated efficiently. That's better than some private pilots I hear on the radio ;)
i loved how often he did a readback to confirm the instuctions "descend to 4000 ft" "descending to 4000" etc it makes me really want to try it
I'm sure Tom have heard "aviate, navigate, communicate" before. :-)
I was desperate for someone to make an Airplane! joke, and Petter did not disappoint me.
Surely you can't be serious.
@@DrVVVinK I am serious, and don't call me Shirley.
Somehow two of my favorite content makers did a collaboration of everything I love. Thanks guys! You quite honestly made my day.
21:09 “Standby, flying…” Despite the stress, panic, and information overload, Tom still manages to crack out lines like this. Brilliant 😂
And that is actualy what he should be doing. I think the saying is: aviate, navigate, comunicate? As in in case of overload flying ( maintaining controll) is your primary and only concern. Then navigate, (make sure you are flying where you want and are supposed to) and lastly comunicate.
@@Thorinbur "aviate, navigate, comunicate" is what Petter repeats always in his analysis
Rule Nr. 1: Fly the aircraft!
I’m going to tell atc next time, “CONFIRMING passing 5000 feet”
It is super cool how mentour pilot is super chill and has time to explain stuff to tom, but tom is panicking because he forgets that it is just a simulator!
Ironically enough, that's how it's meant to be. I think it was 74Gear who once described getting in a situation in a simulator where he gave up, and got chewed out by the instructor because that violates "never stop flying the aircraft."
@@pyrobreather1 yup it definitely was Kelsey who mentioned that. Another great aviation youtuber. As for Petter, it's literally his job to explain things to people in the pilot's seat (and he's great at it). Though I imagine they usually aren't panicking as much as Tom was :D
If the scenario happened in real life, I think it'd be ideal for the air traffic control operator to remain calm like that.
@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 absolutely. the one thing that will scare someone who's trying to do something hard even more than the actual danger... is sounding panicked as the person telling them what to do. It's something I learned in military training, if you want the other guy to stay calm, be calm yourself.
As a pilot the best lesson I learned about landing and descent is that nose pitch controls airspeed and engine power controls descent. This is the opposite that most people understand.
My beliefs just turned 180°. Thank you!
I don't think I get your point while I'm sure you have a good point. what do you mean?
@@hicri9739 The pilot movements are usually defined by the following in takeoff and cruise: pitch controls ascent or descent and power controls speed. During landing these movements are reversed.
That was amazing, I was at the edge of my seat the entire video, very very well done, glad that Its you doing the piloting because you're quite a smart fellow! and good at communicating! keep it up :)
"I just want to say good luck, we're counting on you". Absolute legend for that quote!
Airplane reference!
I think Tom didn't get it due to panic, but it was great.
It would be a crime *not* to include it! Fortunately he did not disappoint.
Both pilots had the fish.. (airplane). Is now why no crews have the same meals
@@mikenealis8159 and no pilot called Roger ever got employed since
5:43 imagine if that was actually an ejector seat... Tom just disappearing out the top totally unprepared would be the funniest thing ever 😂😂
Funny, yes, but last I checked, commercial aircraft don't have ejection seats for the pilots. ;)
@@myladycasagrande863 wow nothing gets past you except the joke does it 😂
@@adamdickinson2894 you think I missed the joke?
@@myladycasagrande863 yes.
@@myladycasagrande863 I noticed you did
At least the doors never fell off
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You both seem so happy , I'm glad you enjoyed yourselves. Great job Tom✈️✈️✈️
I love how Tom kept forgetting it's a simulator and genuinely went into a panic at times. You can hear how loud his voice becomes at times.
And trying not to swear 😂
As an instructor I don't normally use the "P" word; Tom was "task-saturated." But he didn't give up!!
@@benpratt4681 That's a very good way to describe it.
I have this when playing Powerwash Simulator. I start to worry that I'm not jetting the dirt well enough and the customer will complain.
Holy crap, 666 likes.
As a 737 Captain myself, I can say that you did a fantastic job!
Absolutely fantastic as Petter would say
I flew on a 737 recently. Very nice plane
proud to be ur 500th like
Which version of 737? (I hope its not MAX)
@@madkoala2130 it is
Remember: You can always abort landing, go around and try it again. Don't force it unless it's engine failure or you are in a glider. Nice in-panic-communication from both: clear, good tempo, read back...
If there's one thing I've learned from watching aviation channels (74 Gear, in particular), it's to, "Aviate, Navigate, Communicate," and Tom did that spectacularly 21:12 This had me on the edge of my seat! Great video!
Tom, now go into an Air Traffic Control Simulator
He's already done a video on one.
@@mirzaahmed6589 which one?
Arguably even more stressful
I never thought I'd see the day Tom Scott partnered with Mentour Pilot
And it was so much fun!!
@@MentourPilot I love your videos
I was very excited seeing Tom Scott upload this collab with Mentour Pilot, almost didn't believe it!
@@MentourPilot It was really fun to watch too!
Fantastic having both of you creating together! Bravo!
This guy does a great job explaining everything.
As somebody who has had limited flying experience, I'm thoroughly impressed by not only the communication skills between Tom and Pettier, but also Tom despite panicking having his priorities straight with the principles of Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. Telling Pettier to stand by so he could fly the plane shows this very well.
as someone with no flying experience I can't help but notice how they flew him waaay out to let the auto pilot land in the best possible situation and then directed him into the runway at a cocked-up angle setting him up for failure...
@@kingjames4886 which one had the cocked up angle? The manual approach or the ILS approach?
@@silaskuemmerle2505 the manual approach. both of them even said it was a bad approach but just kept going >.>
The video was cut too much and a lot of things were adjusted by cutting the video. It is never possible for a passenger to land the plane by giving a remote command.
@@kingjames4886 The angle was wrong because he turned the wrong way, he said it himself in the video
As someone with horrible flight anxiety, I wish I could have Petter's voice in my ear going "yep yep perfectly normal" the entire time 😅
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maybe he should do a pre-landing podcast for people about to land in a real plane XD . or i could mix him in to a song track saying that sentence over and over again for you if you like. how long do you want it to go for?
As they often say the drive to the airport is more dangerous than the flight. You have nothing to worry about, there are many people paying attention and working to make sure your flight happens safely and many computers and systems designed to be as reliable as possible.
Mentour pilot actually has an app explaining a bunch of the noises you can hear on airplanes and that they are "perfectly normal" that might help a bit!
@@knory123 What's the app called, please? I would appreciate the extra knowledge prior to every flight I take :)
I once had an amazing experience in the full motion flight sim as a simmer and although I didn't nail it, the instructor was quite impressed with my manual landing. Smooth and dead center. I had a little trouble with steering on the ground though. I'd love to do that again but this time in a real 737 simulator! Tom, next time: GO AROUND and try again hahaha!
LOVE Mentour Pilot!! Great collaboration 👌
I had to pause and say that the cut at 3:44 between Petter being calm and Tom freaking out was hilarious.
I burst out laughing at that.
if Petter had just said windscreen we wouldnt have this gem
glad to see our CAE simulators in action. Very nice video!
It's awesome seeing both of you in the same video!
10:40 Actually Tom it said "plus 100", not "flare", Petter inadvertently primed you to report "flare". This is an amazing example of the strange things humans do under stress, even simulated stress! I so badly want to teach you to fly on KZhead 🤣
So true! They should do more experiments like this to see what interesting things can happen
en, the flyign was simulated, but the stress was real :p
I do believe it would've said "FLARE" on the PFD. Although he did make it sound like it was an audible callout, but it doesn't really make sense that it said minimums either.
The video was cut too much and a lot of things were adjusted by cutting the video. It is never possible for a passenger to land the plane by giving a remote command.
@@1Mr.Legend1 in this case, you are correct that Tom cut a lot out of the video, but that doesn't mean it's impossible for a passenger to land. If you want a fuller version, go to Mentour Pilot's channel, where he tells the story from the other side
You have NO IDEA how happy I was to see Mentour Pilot’s involved in this video.
You never know where I might pop up 😂
@@MentourPilot he's no where and everywhere
The video was cut too much and a lot of things were adjusted by cutting the video. It is never possible for a passenger to land the plane by giving a remote command.
@@1Mr.Legend1 did you watch the full version over on my channel?
@@MentourPilot You had me at "good luck, we're all counting on you." Just perfect.
I just realized this is mentor pilot. I recently got really into his channel. Super freaking good content by a really smart, personable dude.
I was absolutely terrified just watching it. Well done for keeping your cool!
I never would have guessed that autopilot could land. I imagined it was mostly just keeping you in line and at speed.
I *believe* the first example of an autopilot capable of landing a plane was the L-1011 Tristar. It's not the newest technology, but it is definitely impressive.
Commercial plane autopilots can do pretty much anything, unless they are in somewhat extreme conditions. The tech in there is quite amazing.
Well, ultimately, all it does to land is also just keeping you in line and at speed, just very specific ones to land. Though auto-landing is also supported by the airport, it doesn't just work anywhere. The airports where you can do it have special things next to the runway that precisely indicate the target to the plane.
Modern ones can do everything from you being on the take off point, to the landing, including all the things like waypoints along the way.
Your correct, that’s what the autopilot is mostly used for, however the 737 autopilot can also land the plane on a ILS cat 3 runway if needed. Usually the auto land is used for when it’s extremely foggy and the pilots cannot see the runway, or sometimes in storms where it’s hard for a human to control the plane. It’s never really used in clear sky’s and stuff (because it’s not the smoothest landing.. 😅).
I'm actually using this video as training material for new starters on an ISP help desk. The guidance showed by Petter is exemplary, especially how he explains what's going to happen next to help put the Tom's mind at ease. Tom being genuinely petrified also helps here - he really does forget that he's in a simulator!
good luck my boy
I hope you reimbursed the channel and gained permission due monetary use
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Tom's knowledge of almost every instrument and action (e.g. move flap lever through gate, trim wheels etc..) helped enormously. Ordinary panicking person would require much more detailed guidance to find each control or display.
It is amazing how a true professional simulator helps you understand The reality of a situation like this one, is just crazy and there is a lot of information to understand quickly. It is amazing the memory of the trainer on this exercise
What a video, and from two of my favourite KZhead channels!!
As a person designing the visual, just on military simulators not civil, I can say this to everyone discussing microsoft flight simulator or the realism of the outside world: visual realism outside for simulators is not at the top of the requirement list. Landmarks, treelines, waterways that are used as reference are required (decided based on pilot/instructor request) and the airport is modelled where everything fits the current real airport but outside of that, it is way more important to model the materials of everything and the height profiles (for military sims, doubly so, especially materials since there is a lot more instrumentation on both the platform itself and its weapon systems that reacts to it). The visual system gets constant upgrades normally. Enough about that, the beauty of the simulators is that they are certified in the same way as the real aircraft are - every button, switch, alarm etc. needs to match its real life counterpart 1 to 1 (in milliseconds sometimes). Everything in that cockpit feels, reacts and gives the same feedback as in real life. The other nice thing about simulators is that you can practice every dangerous scenario possible in them without risking anything and it being a valid indicator of your pilot's readiness. It also cuts a lot of emissions and saves costs for training that would otherwise cost hundreds of millions if not billions. PS: the visual side of things changes now too as possibilities to integrate gaming technology visuals with the complex requirements of these simulators exist
Petter's channel is excellent, and he does super analysis of accidents. One thing that he highlights often is the confusion caused by task saturation when things are going wrong. I think Tom demonstrates this well, when on the "easy level" Petter has to remind him that if his speed was 290 knots and it is now 260 knots, then yes it is reducing.
6:23 XD that face explains how everything goes blank on his mind just for that little beep. I mean, anyone moving something and then get that alert no warnings will go in panic thinking "What I've done?!!"
Can't trust Petter's analytics anymore. Current events are showing how deeply brainwashed he is.
@@dennisthemenace9133 what does that even mean, what are you talking about?
@@balex2344 Talking about his "analytics" on the Russian boeings situation. For instance.
@@dennisthemenace9133 I'll take the bait. What details in what videos are you referring to?
This just made me realize how marvelous a piece of engineering a commercial jetliner really is.
I loved the reference to "Airplane!" "I just want to tell you 'Good luck. We're counting on you.' " 🤣🤣🤣
This looks scary but also so fun! As someone who has a fear of flying i would love to attempt something like this!
I love how every time the camera switches back to Petter's radar screen, the wiggly line showing Tom's path gets more and more erratic!
Couldn't have been two better KZheadrs. An instructor who makes a living telling disaster stories and what went wrong. And a humble KZheadr that constantly questions his abilities and can genuinely start to forget hes in a simulator
As an Airbus pilot, I think the hardest part to manage if you have no experience, is the energy management on the descent, to be at the correct altitude and speed for the approach. In real life, often air traffic control will give a short cut so you can quickly end up too high and fast. The autopilot still needs input from the pilot. Also autoland is designed for low visibility when you cannot see the runway. It does not work in high winds. 99% of the landings I have done are manual.
OMG IM subbed to this guy, his videos are extremely informative to geeks like me who are fascinated by airplanes. Love this!! ❤
The "last bit" being super busy is a perfect demonstration of why a stabilised approach is so important - you have enough to do even when you're already in the right position and at the right speed etc, so if you add in an unstable approach to that it just becomes overwhelming even for an experienced pilot...
Great collaboration. Petter makes fantastic content and I highly recommend his channel to any nervous fliers or those interested in aviation. He makes very fun and easy to understand breakdowns
Yes, absolutely, he has the ability to explain complicated aviation things in a manner understandable by a regular person, but without losing the important technical details in the process. Also his disaster breakdowns are probably the best breakdowns _ever,_ I'm always thoroughly enjoying his videos.
I really enjoy Mentour Pilot; but I wouldn't necessarily recommend it to nervous flyers. It has certainly put me off the idea of boarding another plane. 😆😬😱
@@euansmith3699 it depends on your perspective going in and the videos you pick to watch. Even the videos about bad crashes establish just how much has to go wrong. I'd also recommend 74 gear
@@euansmith3699 I get your point, because lots of his videos are about crashes, near misses etc, but when you watch them you realise (and he makes this point often) how exceedingly rare any of these events are, and just how many things have to fall into place to cause the incident in question. There is also always the part at the end where he covers what the industry learned as a result of the incident, and the changes that have been made to avoid it happening again. It actually highlights just how safe air travel is in the modern world and how it's only ever improving.
@@thecommentator6694 One of the things I really like about Mentour Pilot's videos is how he stresses that the air accident reports are about identifying issues and proposing solutions, rather than imply apportioning blame. That seems like a very mature approach to handling problems, rather than getting into a mud slinging match. I agree that he also does a good job of highlighting how safe air travel is; however, I'm not convinced that I won't be the poor slob sucked out of the decompressing cabin. 😲😄
21:09 Petter: Can you tell me what your readout on the FMA says please. Tom: Stand by I'm flying. Aviate, Navigate, Communicate.
Haha how fun... as a flight simmer we all dream for this opportunity (but probably really wouldn't want to be in it...) Love Mentour Pilot's videos too... thanks guys!
On your second attempt I was thinking "Go Around! Go Around!" Something Mentor Pilot emphasizes when the landing is not going well. How fun for you to get such an experience of trying to land an airliner.
Would be hard for a non-pilot
@@nihlify I was thinking that, ironically, the go-around would have been much easier with the autopilot - which did not need the go-around.
Should have been a radio call from aircraft on the ground… ”Where’s this guy going?!…HE’s ON THE TAXIWAY!!” Aka SFO/AC😖
Even a pair of experienced pilots have their hands full when doing a go around. A single non-pilot would simply be overwhelmed.
A manual go around for someone with literally no experience in a 737 would result in a far bigger crash. he'll inevitably forget the gear and flaps and stall, or pitch up way too aggressively and stall.
Everyone can land a plane. It's just a question of how soft that landing is. 😜
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flight simmers' time to shine
That plane is getting a landing no matter what, whether you get to be in one piece afterwards is the problem in question.
This is so true it’s easy to get down but the difficult part is landing in one piece
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Love Petter! A pilots perspective on plane disasters
Impressive attempt, Tom! Flying a simulator, I learned a lot about how the 737 works. As a private pilot, this is really helpful.
“Standby flying” got me good, but It did follow the first rule of fly the aircraft first. Great video really good watch.
Thank you for the clarification at the beginning. I was getting a little worried
Reminds be of people not wanting to die alone.
I like the way he handles encouragement. He's a good teacher
Awesome, two of my favorite KZheadrs. Is this the old “can a pilot talk a non-pilot down for a successful landing” scenario?
I absolutely love when he's told to look just below the glare shield, and it cuts to him looking around confused, he doesn't have any audio, but you can see him say "what's a glare shield"
That would have confused me too. Momentarily. It’s one of those rare moments when Petter forgets that a normal person won’t know know the names of these things.
“How hard can it be?” -Jeremy Clarkson
great content as always Tom
That was so much fun. Thanks for sharing
21:08 "STANDBY, FLYING" The polite way to say "I AM CONCENTRATING WAY TOO HARD TO PAY ATTENTION TO YOU RIGHT NOW"
My favourite part was how calm Petter was talking whilst looking at a map showing you waltzing above the Irish Sea.
I've always wondered if i could do this in an emergency.... Loved this!
amazing video! I felt with Tom!