5 Absurd Myths Everyone Believes About the Wild West
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In todays video we shall look at the following 5 Absurd Myths Everyone Believes About the Wild West
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Well yes, but actually no.
Not this guy.
The Spanish Vaquero is the foundation of the cowboy 🤠
@@Dankster-yo8xv Do tell
The narrator is correct about early revolvers being problematic. However, these weapons improved to the point of having much better reliability, power, and accuracy. My cap and ball 1858 Remington is a deadly pistol.
I tried cap and ball once I had a phenomena known as chain fire occur 😬 no thanx I'll stick to my 1873 cartridge shooters but yes dragoons were famous for blowing up same with walkers it took some tinkering and tweeking for sure lol !!
Actually the handguns of the period were pretty reliable. The Texas Rangers made good use of Colts Patterson, one of the earliest of that renown brand, in its conflict with the Comanches. This was in the 1830s and later models were even more effective.
Same. Mine's an Italian version of an 1858 Remington .44. That's a big piece of lead. I believe the the cap and ball pistols of that era were specifically designed to be able to fell a horse in the opposing army's cavalry. During bear season, it's what I carry outside at night. I chuckled when he called it a marble.
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@@albertdeleon6272 um no. They all effluence each other not one started the other.
Remeber: Hollywood tells STORIES... ...NOT HISTORY...!
Black powder pistols are very accurate especially when loaded and cared for properly
And very, very deadly.
weapon of choice of wild bill
Theodorre Roosevelt actually spent several years as a cowboy, wasn't an act
Joshua Groda Yeah it was. He was a rich dude who played dress up.
@@daviddalton9214 Incorrect. You need to look up his time in North Dakota along the Little Missouri. Not an act. He spent years there raising cattle.
He went there after a death in his family, I can't remember if it was his wife or his daughter.
@@kenore4003 It was his wife *and* his mother. (On the same day, iirc.) Read his biography after visiting his National Park in Western North Dakota. Even got the ranger tour of the first cabin he stayed in during his first trip there. Talk about the lack of any modern convenience, lol... Interesting guy. Would have liked to have met him.
@@Backroad_Junkie Thank you. I knew that they were people who were important to him but was too lazy to look it up for my reply.
The gunfight at the Okay Coral saw three men die. They call it the Wild West but that might struggle to make the local news these days.
Millions of revolvers were around after the civil war. Most Navy Colts. They were converted from cap and ball too use metallic cartridges.
Most common was 1860 Colt Army.
David Dalton .... Civil War surplus revolvers converted to fire metallic cartridges
Surprisingly they were used into the 20th century, used correctly they are very effective. I used to carry mine a few years ago, but now they sit in the safe.
I bdon't elite the 1851 Nqvy Colt was more popular. And a lot more were made.
Well that's the first time I ever heard of marauding bands of Cherokee plains Indians. Also why is it that Brits are apparently incapable of pronouncing Spanish words. Waste of time.
As a member of the Cherokee nation. On the east coast, thank you for speaking the fuck up. We weren't in the west. And the Cherokee didnt have fucking headdresses. Thanks for spreading education
I'm not Cherokee (or at least not sure, and even if I was it isn't enough to be considered as such) But thank you for speaking up. Yes the Cherokee were on the plains, but they were only pushed there by the US Gov.
And, Blazing Saddles was historically accurate (from a foreign point of view).
but the sheriff was a ni...ni...ni....i seriously doubt any black sheriffs in the old west
What are your sources. Because you sound like you know nothing about our history. Should i make a video about knights because i watched a documentary about King Arthur?
“Who would want to watch a western where cowboys meet high at noon to shoot each other in the face with huge shotguns?” Uh, me
uh...meet high at noon or meet at high noon?
Well, that ended badly with some absolute codswallop regarding handguns.
When the L did "Cherokee" ever attack anyone in the West?
you're wrong about those pistols, you make it sound like a toy ( a little marble ) the lead balls or conicals are the same sizes as modern bullets a cap and ball revolver is a deadly weapon and extremely accurate they don't burn your hand and if set up right they don't missfire or jam
The funny thing about text to speech videos is the lack of recognizing typos.
A .44 Army colt 1860 firing a soft lead ball is sure to ruin your day and with a little practice its easy to hit center mass on a man size target at fifty yards or more
I think the Adams revolver was imported to the U.S. in limited quantites, but Colt and Remington revolvers would have been much more common due to surpluses of them after Lincoln's War. (And possibly because neither of them "burned the hell out of your hand") Also, people in ancient times killed lions by using slings to throw stones, the idea that a lead ball propelled by black powder somehow isn't effective is as ludicrous as the idea that one culture adopting good elements of another is somehow theft. I don't know where you got your information on guns but you need to try saving yourself some time and headache by thinking things through before you record a video. A $70 airgun from Walmart can kill small rodents and severely injure a person at 75 feet with a .177 inch bullet traveling at ~800 feet per second. Knowing this, does it not seem logical that a .36 or .44 (both were common) inch bullet traveling at roughly the same velocity would be *AT LEAST* as effective?
Lincoln's War? Dude....
I own a black powder and velocity is around 950-980.
@@timesthree5757 It is possible to fire a candle from a Black Bess musket through several sheets of pine. Apparently this was a regular demonstration at Nottingham University
Of course I knew the first cowboys were Mexican vaqueros and I have a lot of respect for them. In the 1870s, there were actually quite a number of them hanging out and working in the Southwestern US, also, a lot of vaqueros and their families had settled there having immigrated to escape Mexico's corrupt government at the time.
Actually the other way around, they skip the United States and move down into northern Mexico to escape persecution and killings bye American law enforcement as well as Citizens that persecuted them for their lands. The cowboy tradition that emerge from the mestizos mexican is something that both Mexicans and Americans can be proud of.
Thunder 230MPH actually the vaqueros didn’t move up to the US to escape Mexico’s corrupt government they were already here and moved down to Mexico to escape the US’s persecution and massacres in Houston there’s even a museum to show case the brutality the US brought to the Mexicans and Tejanos. The Southwestern and Texas have always spoke Spanish before the US even existed fun fact the US has been speaking Spanish way longer than English because of the Spanish colonies in the Southwest before the Puritans even set foot in Plymouth. Many Mestizo Mexicans till this day can actually trace their bloodlines to the Native tribes that use to be in California, New Mexico, Arizona and Texas.
@@dtownblastinsalvi62 Fun fact, Huguenots arrived long before puritans.
@@dtownblastinsalvi62 the Spanish Vaquero is the foundation of the cowboy 🤠
@@albertdeleon6272 hell yeah it is 💯💯💯
I applaud your clearer focus on the Old West but I wouldn't dismiss handguns as completely as you have. While certainly for the most part the cap and ball guns weren't as reliable or as good immediately taking down adversaries. They were convenient to carry and when cartridges were introduced they had lethality and knock down power equal to today's handguns.
Cap and ball revolvers were used during the civil war. If they're properly loaded they wont burn your hand and though they weren't as powerful as handguns are today, if your shot with one at close range, if you survive, you're gonna say ouch.
I have killed two "bad guys" with my percussion revolvers at a range of 35-40 yards (.44 caliber). I load a 185-ish grain conical lead bullet-fully equal to a .45 ACP 185 grain load (950-975 FPS muzzle vel.) I hand cast. That's a Remington Army Revolver. You can only kill a man dead.
I can't believe that he left the 10 gallon hat out. How else do you water your horse?
This guy is amazingly accurate. "Circling the wagons" has been around since military and wagons and done to prevent live stock from wandering off. The Vaquero (va-care-oh) originated in Spain during the medieval ages and makes it's appearance in 1657 in Mexico. In Spain they were just called some variation of herder or live stock tender. The healed riding boot was invented by the Persians eons ago and copied by everybody. The modern Stetson, mandatory if you want to be Texas chic, made it's first appearance in the 1920's. Interestingly, the first high crown wide brimmed horseman's hat was worn by the Mongols in the 13 century. (Just a note, the history of hats is fascinating.)
Yea but circling the wagons was rarely used during attacks. 1. Stampeding livestock. 2. You don’t want to be surrounded. Also the cowboy is a combination of French, Spanish, German, and Scottish highland cattle raising traditions. It became it’s own thing. Called Ranching.
I understand that the 'circling of wagons' was instigated by the early cowboy film makers. As the cameras were all static it was easier to have the wagons filmed in one place hence, circling the wagons!
This video sounds like another Brit who’s still angry the colonists defied the queen.
Your Barista--that's what I think. This view of what we're all supposed to think is inaccurate. It's not even all that accurate if your impression is only gleaned from western movies. And his "corrections" are open to question.
I agree, however the colonists defied King George III.
@@TheCarnivalguy ha! Thanks for the correction
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This guy is funny. The history of the settlement of Texas is completly brutal. He called a Stetson a Setson. And Said OK Coral, not Corral. Flippin pretentious Brits.
deaf and stupid, how did you make it so far in life
Tell Bill Hickock his cap & ball Navy Colt is inaccurate.
I didn't know Willie Wonka was a Cowboy...wtf
Wrong! Cowboys originated in Spain, not Mexico. The origins of the cowboy tradition come from Spain, beginning with the hacienda system of medieval Spain. This style of cattle ranching spread throughout much of the Iberian peninsula and later, was imported to the Americas. Both regions possessed a dry climate with sparse grass, and thus large herds of cattle required vast amounts of land in order to obtain sufficient forage. The need to cover distances greater than a person on foot could manage gave rise to the development of the horseback-mounted vaquero.
Mexican Mestizos invented cowboys not Spaniards and not anglos ! Haha
Jake Masters actually no medieval Spain had no need for the hacienda system and it’s a system of large land holdings, the hacienda system came after Mexico was colonized when the Spanish had large land holdings in the new world those laws can only be found in Latin America where major land was conquered not Spain. Hell even the iconic sombreros that the vaqueros wore were made by native and mestizos peasants who lived in the ranchos.
Mexican are Hispanics so your argument does not hold water
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This video should be called: 5 true facts that I call myths that I copied from other videos also made by Brits. But I can see how that title is to long
Most of what is discussed in this video is common knowledge to any student of the history of the American West. The statement that the early revolvers were useless and under powered is absurd. Wild Bill Hickock carried ball and cap revolvers long after most people were using cartridge ammunition. The Navy Colt .44 was a fearsome weapon. The modern 9mm automatics hold much more than 5-6 rounds, but with the Navy Colt, a man rarely needed to be shot more than once.
Yes the old west firearms were deadly. In the OK korral movie with Sam Elliot,& Kurt Russel....If you'll recall when "Johnny Ringo" came out of the bar, without a pistol, and grabbed one,(from somehwere) and couldn't make it fire because it was (one of the first) semi auto pistols and he didn't know how to make it work. That was a true event.
Also, many who know little about firearms and their calibers, do not realize that many of today's calibers...are from the Old West (or before). 30-30 and 45-70 just to name a couple of rifle calibers, and .45 Colt and 38 Long Colt for both pistols and rifles
The term 30-30 indicates a bullet diameter of .30 inches with a powder charge of 30 grains. Same idea for 45-70. These are rifle loads because larger gunpowder loads need a longer barrel for more complete combustion and full velocity of the bullet.
The 30-30 was introduced in 1895. The "old west" was closing rapidly at that point.
The Son of Samuel used also used a forty-four caliber pistol.
on the trail they always slept head to toe to prevent one of their trail crew from giving them a knob job at night
The term "cowboy" came from the American Revolution. To sneak across open fields, they would wear a cowbell to fool the British, and they coined the phrase "cowboy."
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That last bit about the firearms is simply not entirely correct. I guess nobody told Wild Bill Hickock that those old cap and ball revolvers were no good past about fifty feet -- it's a good thing he didn't know that when he shot Davis Tutt through the heart with one at seventy yards with a single, well-placed bullet. If most people couldn't hit a target with one of those pistols past fifty feet, that was a problem with the shooter, not the pistol. Those old black powder revolvers were not intrinsically less accurate that modern guns. The cap and ball pistols generally were less powerful than modern cartridge arms (though even there, there were exceptions -- the 1947 Walker Colt was the most powerful handgun made until the introduction of the .357 magnum in 1935). It's also true that black powder fouling, unless _promptly_ cleaned off, will corrode iron and steel swiftly, so uncleaned guns could develop rust pitting in the bore that would impair accuracy. But a well-made, well-maintained handgun of that period was _very_ accurate. It is true though that the Hollywood notion of gunfighters calling each other out into the street for fast-draw showdowns is a myth. The aforementioned Hickok-Tutt fight was probably as close to the Hollywood version as any real example, and it wasn't a fast draw contest. Also a myth is the idea that once you had acquired a reputation as a gunslinger (a term that wasn't used back then), then everywhere you went, young punks with guns constantly challenged you in attempts to make names for themselves as deadly gunfighters. If you look at how the men with dangerous reputations were actually killed -- men like Wild Bill Hickock, John Wesley Hardin, Jesse James, Billy the Kid, et al. -- they were almost always shot from behind or by ambush.
Wow marble and 50 feet????? A heavy lead ball at 900 feet per second will go through and through a person at fifty yards. Wild Bill Hicock killed a man at eighty yards. Long range but you will see a lot of people shooting that gun who can duplicate the shot. There was nothing wimpy about old revolvers. The colt peacemaker was expensive. It came out in 1873 and ranks in power near a .357. However the old cap and ball revolvers stayed in general use
Legends are based on truth. Not every hero in the west could shoot a gun out of someone's hand but a ranger did have a duel with a criminal in which the rangers bullet got stuck in the criminals barrel.
And victimizing native americans is so overdone. Youre preaching to an audience thats almost dead and doesnt listen to stuff like this.
This guy knows nothing about firearms. Eg; the early Walker and Dragoon Colts did NOT use round balls, but conical bullets with hollow bases to allow the expanding gases to obturate the skirt of the bullet and get spun by the rifling, similar to a Minnie Ball. They used up to 40 grains Gunpowder and the 1847 Walker put out more energy than any commercial revolver round until the .357 Magnum in 1935. It was the most powerful handgun in the world for 88 years. Handloads are a different matter.
Criminality is hyped up so that those who are the real criminals behind the scenes can deliver more control.
us Humans cant behave and need a Security Police State to keep us in check, keep us in order!
Love your humor ❤
It's pronounced "va-care-ro(s)". The "q" and the "u" are silent. Unless you're a Mexican, then it's more like "vah-ke-roh".
Actually bah-ke-roh
bailey9r I lay flat on my gringo back "corrected". ;)
PAckjim; Haha the way the guy in the video says it you would think he is poolside ordering a drink with an umbrella in it!
bailey9r lol
@@bailey9r Actually it’s bakedo. The r has a d sound
It sets my teeth on edge the way he mispronounces "vaquero" (I'm from the Rio Grande and no self-respecting South Texan would say it like that) but overall I agree with the video. The myth I've always disliked most is a Hollywood invention, the quick-draw duel. The outcome wasn't determined by who shot first; the narrator's right, the guns weren't that accurate.
No idea re accuracy, but nicely done video
Yes almost every word is untrue.
Why crap, the .36 navy colt with a lead ‘marble compared in power and accuracy with today’s .38 special. The .44 army could keep up with the .45 long colt. And until the invention of the .44 mag, the .44 walker was the most powerful revolver ever made. Single and double barrel guns shooting a ‘marble ‘. We’re even more powerful then the .44 mag or the .50 desert eagle. Hancock made a single shot kill at 80 yards, 240 feet. About 5 times thy ‘50’ feet.
Va-KWER-oh. ? Really? Vaqueros also gave us the lariat (la riata) and the cigarette.
This video looks interesting, but the volume is so low, I can't enjoy it.
BILLY the KID was born in BROOKLYN.
You got all but about the hats the boiler hat was called a"town hat" and have you ever shot a six gun ?
Thanks very much as I totally love Wild west stuff, not being American I sometimes think I must of been born in the wrong country and at the wrong time. Good job putting things wright as many believe what Hollywood has shown in movies.
The Spanish/Mexican cowboy name is pronounced "vac-er-o". It is not pronounced with the "q" of is spelling.
Way to go Joe. It was painful to my Texan ears to hear the word vaquero spoken in such "dude fashion". It was also troubling to me to her them referred to as chaps... with the ch pronounced as in cheddar cheese. I will gleefully acknowledge that the word come from the Mexican vaqueros chaparjos (chap-a-ray-hoes) but as a man who has worn them for hours sitting horseback, it is pronounced shaps in white man's Texas and Colorado. I dont know how hispanics pronounce the word. I know that dudes from New York (at least one of my old friends, a dude from New York) pronounced the word with the cheddar cheese ch.. I love you Matty, but the word is pronounced "shaps"
One issue with the bowler hat theory. When people were posing for photographs, something not easy to do, they dressed in their best clothes. Of course you will wear a nice bowler hat for those. When you go for professional photos today you tend to dress up. Do you go wearing your dirty coveralls from your mechanic job for professional photos? No you wear good clothes. Bowler hats were classy and stylish, why would you wear them on the open range or on a working ranch. It will get mud, dust, rain, and sweat on it. maybe even something that comes out of the south end of a northbound cow. You wear something you don't care about it's looks. Not your good dress hat.
Most of what we call "the old west" was invented by Hollywood in the first half of the 20th century. It has little or nothing to do with real life on the American frontier in the second half of the 19th century. Thanks for pointing this out.
brain Williams was Jesse James mentor
With my volume full I can still barely hear the narration. Should have subtitles. Anyway the true wild West wasn't really the 1870s it was more like the 1670s and earlier. But of course that isn't really American; it was 100 years + before America became a nation.
Robert Sollory sorry about the volume man! Was still getting used to the software i was using! I’ve fixed the issue on all of my new videos
You need to actually shoot some revolvers with black powder loaded cartridges. They're far more accurate then you give them credit for, as are cap and ball revolvers. A book I'll recommend on the subject was written in the 1960s by a man named Elmer Keith, it's titled six guns. Why don't you learn from a man who is the biggest reason why we have the 357 and 44 magnum cartridges. One of many who spoke to people who lived and worked those cow towns, and mining settlements and actually fought the civil war. He basically invented modern long range handgun shooting. I'll give you an "atta boy" for your other 4 points. Firearms we're far more expensive prior to the 20th century due to manufacturing processes and materials of the time.
Audio much lower than adds. Not worth trying to listen to.
YOU NEED TO CHECK YOU FACTS ! YOU GOT ABOUT HALF OF THEM WRONG .. SORRY
i have heard the first "cowboys" were the cossacks of the russian plains.....also, that real saloons did not have small swinging doors....,,and the first horse culture was the botai (bow tie)....why are grown men called cowBOYS and not cowMEN?
EXcape? Mispronunciation of Spanish? My, my.
So, I guess this guy was in the 1800s old West...
Don't need to be there to know your history. It's called reading
Oregon TrIAl? ‘Trail, surely.
Hollywood creats the myths
"OK corrol"?
Here in California things are a hell of a lot more wild now then they ever were during the so-called "wild west." Crime is far, far worse now.
Ark survival: ol west edition
Half the stuff in the video is wrong
None of this is new info, but it is a bit un-settling to hear that accent speak of our history. It speaks to how easy it it to distort history, mold those fresh minds into just what you need. Just some wildly entertaining books and movies, folklore, culture and traditions. CRT anyone?
Accents scare you?
Why would take American history from a foreigner?
Low audio!!
Sound is horrible. There's bad hum behind your voice and the voice is quite soft. Seems like you didn't do much editing on the VO.
+ChinaAl Sorry, my content has improved now though
Corral not coral. Accent on 2nd syllable. Coral is found as sea reefs.
Pure bs...how do yu know men who lived by the gun could not shoot a gun out of someones hands?...A gun is fairly large target the best surely could aim and hit a gun at 50 feet or lesd
You’ve all got it wrong. Vaquero is NOT pronounced with a V at all. It is pronounced with a B. The word comes from “vaca” meaning a cow and which is pronounced “ba-kah”. A vaquero (ba-kare-oh) is a cow tender. It was corrupted by us white folk to “buckaroo” because of the hard B sound of the correct pronunciation of vaquero. I know this as I am from buckaroo country in eastern Oregon, where the Anglo’s got all of their best cattle handling techniques from the old time Californios who worked this country. BTW Hawaii had cowboys way earlier than Texas. They were local natives called paniolos who were taught their cattle handling techniques from vaqueros from old Mexico starting in the 1830s. Paniolo is a corruption of Espanol, meaning a person of Spanish origins. In America or Canada if it’s cowboy stock handling related, it probably has Spanish/Mexican roots.
The scouts who rode ahead to look for water game crossing and trouble would ride back and tell the wagon train there's trouble circle the wagons ! So it's not like they didn't have prior notice and was trying to do it in a emergency and alot of the guns came from ex soldiering or in some cases the state handing them out to fight for state hood like the Texas rangers supplied muskets and shooters but other then that yep guns cost a fortune !! I'm a rancher and I carry a pair of 1873 45 six shooter there not even actually six shooters there 5 shooters I'm not even gonna get into that and a 1892 45 lever action on one side of my saddle a stoger coach side by side shotgun just those 4 guns alone cost like a fortune it would of been even worst back then with them becoming the latest greatest neatest thing !!
Va CARE os not quair. OK Cor Al not Coral
the cowboy plagiarized everything from the Mexican vaquero
Cowboys pretty much learned it by watching (or being taught by) vaqueros I'd say. The native American Indians were pretty good horsemen too. I have a lot of respect for the native American Indians. They really got a raw deal.
vacca: Sp = cow/cattle vaquero: Sp = a man who works with cows/cattle Native Americans became good horsemen once the Spanish brought them here and let enough go wild to create herds on the American plains. Before that (anytime prior to middle to late 18th century) Native Americans depended on dogs. You can always tell a Texan, but you can't tell him much. They are a pretty tough, resilient, independent, and obnoxiously confident people (sort of like Brits). So, there is a lot to admire, but they do have a tendency to think they invented the world. Of course, we all know that Americans (sometimes including Texans) invented the world, unless we are British, German, Russian, French, ... Well, I hope you get my point. We have met the enemy and they are us.
Might want to Google the meaning of “plagarized”.
Setson? Try Stetson.
2:45 Odd you compare indian loses for the entire period of time to loses in a specific situation . Need a little work on those comparisons .
10:10 what on earth has that picture to do with the video ?
One thing he gets wrong was gun control. As soon as the towns enacted gun control in their towns violence skyrocketed. Why cause those that do not care for the law still carried their guns and used them. The violence did not abaid until these laws were repelled. When the town folk were able to carry again crime shot down by quit a lot.
Gonna need a cite for that, mate. Sounds like Regnery BS to me.
@@studogable Mate? How about stick to your country, bud.
@@studogable It’s a fact today as yesterday. But judging by that “mate” government has all the answers to society’s ills. Gonna need a cite on a KZhead comment section 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@timesthree5757 in other words, you made it up.
@@studogable No I didn’t. It’s easy to find out. Compare the uptick in crime with the illegal banning of firearms. Tombstone, Kansas City, Carson city, Huston, Louisville, Boston, Anchorage, Chicago, all had massive increase in violent crime with the illegal ban on firearms. Towns like pine bluff, Dallas, hot springs, Charlotte, mobile, never banned guns had relatively low crime.
Waves auf dem Mutz........
Sound sucks ... can barely hear anything ... !! ... and the problem is only with this video ... not others ...
Party pooper
Yeah, these are myths that MOST people, not EVERYONE, believes. (I dang sure don't!) However, if you are going to dispel myths, don't use fallacies. Whether using erroneous information, or mispronunciations, you look foolish. Some example: A) Chaps are pronounced SHaps. B) Vaquero is pronounced akin to (vah-KEH-roh) with the v sounding similar to b, the que sounding similar to KAY, and a slight roll to the r. It is SPANISH, after all. C) It sounded like you said (som-BREE-ohs). Lol. SOMBREROS! It's actually closer to (sohm-BRAYR-ohs). D) The first "cowboys" were NOT Mexican. They were Spanish. Mainland Spain. You know, the people that ruled Mexico before it was Mexico. E) Hickok did NOT wear a ladies hat. No one is certain of it's provenance, but that hat was NOT a ladies hat. F) Speaking of James Butler Hickok, he used (among others) the Colt M1851 .36 Navy. While it WAS cap and ball, if YOU think it wasn't dangerous, then perhaps YOU stand 50 feet downrange, while I shoot mine. It was believed to be a Navy 6 that Hickok used in his fight with Davis Tutt. (Springfield, 1865) Hickok killed Tutt with one shot, at a distance of 70 to 75 yards, That's 210 to 225 feet! Yeah, so not dangerous. (They M1851 was sighted at 100 yards, from the factory. Oh, and NOBODY used the garbage gun you showed. It certainly wasn't a "hallmark of the era".). Plus, you said this in relation to the Shootout off Fremont (NOT the OK Corral), which took place on 26 OCT 1881. At that point, the cartridge firearm ruled. All the participants used centerfire cartridge firearms. And, even though smokeless powder hadn't yet been invented, the pistols of the day were extremely accurate, and deadly. (Yeah, the showdown stuff is nonsense, especially because of that, NOT because most people used rifles and shotguns.) And, G) It's CORRAL not CORAL. Pronounced (cor-RAL) not (cor-uhl). Geez, I hope you've learned how to actually spew facts, in the time since you made this video.
Hey Lloyd. I'm curious. How hard is it to turn your volume up when recording a segment? Apparently it's hard.
As usual truth and fiction get blurred as did some of the comments here.
Lousy sound. Can't hear anything.
5 straw men
This video's info is pretty much spot on in it's accurate portrayal of the true old west. I've read quite a lot on the subject myself. And yes, the early revolvers shot round lead balls, as they were cap and ball black powder revolvers. Also known a "paper patched bullets". The brass cartridged ammo with lead bullets fired by the striking of the primer by the firearm's hammer (think Colt Single Action Army Revolver) as we know it today came a bit later, towards the last of the western era. Any/all of this is easily found online/google...if you care to actually reasearch it. Hollywood took great liberties, invented many "myths" and portrayed quite a few outright lies in their movies about the Old West......and still are. The clothing shown in most of the movies were not accurate either. Cowboy days were during "The Victorian Era". And bowler hats were the most popular hats as they came from the Eastern US (as did many things the west needed) and were considerd "high class hats". And guns were prohibited in many western towns.AAMOF,....it's what started the shoot out at the OK corral (which really didn't happen AT the OK corral) The earps and Holiday were there to confiscate the Clanton's firearms.... Overall this video is pretty much 100% accurate...regardless if you think so or not.
+fireball1322 Thank you! Finally someone that actually knows what I'm talking about!
Also, Hollywood portrayed that hundreds if not thousands of " man to man gun duels in the street" occurred, when two guys had a beef. the truth was if someone had a beef, or a reason to want someone else dead , most were ambushed and/or shot in the back. Like Morgan Earp was. There were very few gun duels between two men in the street...One by Wild Bill Hickok is accurately recorded in Old West history though. There may be one or two more, but I haven't happened upon those...yet . As far as robberies, I'd say robbing stagecoaches would like have been easier to pull off, than banks. Americans should surely know by now that Hollywood SELDOM IF EVER gets it right on most any subject they choose to portray. Hollywood is more interested in director and actors notoriety and how much money can be/is made off the movie, than getting the actual events historically correct.. The Mexicans were the among, if not the very first cowboys as, also, were Argentinans. Ever heard of the "Ten gallon hat"? Google how that name came to be. You'll be VERY surprised. One last thing: if you're one of the naysayers that posted , I highly suggest that you do your research before calling someone else a liar, and insulting them. Because many of you have made yourselves look very ignorant about your own American/Old West history, in front of someone from another country who actually knows more about it than you know about it yourselves. Adios and Yippee Ki yay.
Lloyd, if your main point is that Hollywood takes great liberties with historical fact, we are in agreement. Real life is rarely entertaining and it is quite difficult to find people who are true heroes or villains. Shakespeare understood that when he wrote his "historical" dramas.
fireball1322....I seriously hope that wasnt directed to include my post,because if it was,then you are the only one made to look the fool.Some of us dont know our history,from research in books or movies but from experience of our culture.Especially those of us who are Native and have Followed the Vaquero tradition in our everyday lives for many generations.
which post are you referring to? I don't think I made any disparaging remarks concerning either Native Americans, nor vaqueros.. I hold both in high regard as a matter of fact.
DEAR LORD DID I JUST HEAR AN ENGLISHMAN PRONOUNCE IT EKSCAPE!!!???????????? UM ESCAPE THERE SIR BAD GRAMMAR. And ❤Vaquero is pronounced Vakero! Ugh
This guy can't even pronounce names correctly, how are we supposed to believe anything he says ?
Vaquero is pronounced " v a k a r o". Learn your topic before you speak on it.
This is written by a brit that has never been to the US He never heard of Custer, or Abode Wells. or Kit Carson.
The only clever one here is Laura
Is that not Adobe wells?
It really destroys someones credibility as an expert,if they cant pronounce the words correctly .Its Vaquero and its pronounced Bakerro not with a V sound and not the hard q sound.That is how Buckaroo was derived.The first Vaqueros were not mexicans but rather Native people or Native Americans,if you insist.They were the Slave labor for the Padres and the Dons.Do you think the Dons or the Padres were going to do the hard labor.At first it was against the law for natives to ride horses but after the cattle became big buisness for the spanish,they were taught to ride,so they could work the herd more efficiently.These natives took the classical dressage type riding and turned it into the Vaquero style.Most of those Native people were givin Spanish names as the Padres would not accept their names in their native language and couldnt pronounce them anyway,so people just assume they were mexican.
I was particularly annoyed by his pronunciation of the syllable "que" as "cue."
Any Afghan vaqueros of the old west?
First of all, he's British,and he would sound pretentious, and unnatural trying to pronounce things in exactly the same way as native Spanish speaker. Kind of like the douchebag American that goes to Paris, and starts attempting to pronounce the name of the city the same way the locals do. Everyone rolls their eyes, especially the locals. Secondly, where do you get off saying that the first Vaqueros weren't Mexican? What exactly do you think a Mexican is? They are a mix of Spanish, and the original Native American population so by saying that they are not Mexican, but Native American is like saying American Cowboys aren't Americans, but whatever bloodline is most dominant in their genetics. The first Vaqueros were absolutely Mexicans from Mexico.
Hilariously stilted narration! Is it a robot? No real inflection, either. Also, dreadful grammar. Goodbye CuriousLloyd.
Dude needs to learn to speak English.
This guy knows nothing about BP guns or ballistics.Left wing video for sure.
How is it left
why do Brits destroy every language they come across (including English)?
JewYai it's our language we can do what the fuck we like with it boy
Exactly how do the British destroy the language they created?
It was theirs first and they can do anything to it they want
Interesting points !!! I just wish I could have heard everything, I don't know if it was my phone or your volume but I could barely hear anything with my volume turned all the way up !!!
Pure bs...how do yu know men who lived by the gun could not shoot a gun out of someones hands?...A gun is fairly large target the best surely could aim and hit a gun at 50 feet or lesd
Hell yeah. This full of shit video pissed me off as well.