Leave a slightly longer tail end, makes life easier, also a bit of tape on the strands stops them fraying so much
@incubatork5 жыл бұрын
We call that a 'Flemish eye' but we use a 2 & 4 strand divide and fasten the ends with a bulldog grip. We use it in emergencies for a quick fix and normally use a Liverpool splice but there are many variations & mixed ways to splice. I was a trawler man but friend of mine was a rigger in the mines at Whitehaven England and it was magic how he managed those huge cables. There were no twisting machines then and when the came they made the job so much easier. It must be great to have brains!
@gerrydoyle93697 жыл бұрын
Gerry Doyle not a flemish eye but a super loop ,you don't splice tails in a super loop, a flemish eye splice is totally diffrent and has a difrent use.a Liverpool splice is non load bearing as you wrap the tail strands around one strand as with a normal splice you tuck strands across and under strands which end up locking them in place so it can be load bearing......and swl is usually half the breaking strain of the rope
@gazza31667 жыл бұрын
Это опасная петля. И опасность в том, что она сразу не расплетается, она расплетётся позже и неожиданно, когда вы поверите, что она надёжная.
@user-xw7jn9ks4d4 жыл бұрын
This is great, can you help me to check safe weight load for it?
@nguyenthanhtung2137 жыл бұрын
We ran into this problem before. Try forming the eye from the middle. It push up the core as much. Hopefully that works.
@soapboxkicker19387 жыл бұрын
This product was with manufacturing problems. Our supplier changed for us. Thanks for your comments!!!
@Marcelo_Malure_Consultoria7 жыл бұрын
Here's a tip for strand ends ...tape them up with electricians tape .wrap it to tighten strand anti clockwise...also good when cutting strands stops them opening
@gazza31667 жыл бұрын
Use of tape like that would’ve been frowned upon in the old days but, in reality, it’s a very practical way of keeping strands from unraveling while working on a splice. Covers the sharp ends as well.
@caroleast96362 жыл бұрын
@@caroleast9636 how far back do you call the old days lol im 56 now and we used it 30 years ago .lol yr right actually my dad never used tape or gloves ..hard old men in them days
@gazza31662 жыл бұрын
you can twist the strands back to its natural lay, after the lay is broken.
@Christian-yr2jc7 жыл бұрын
So many experts in the comment section. Oh my!
@45asunder16 жыл бұрын
I make my Tails 1 Ft or so longer than the Eye ,Then do the Eye & wind the 2 tails into single line , Then Put the Eye in a Vice & take a tapered bar & Twist the Notch of the eye & Lay the Tail into the Standing Line & put on a a few Cosby Clamps - Quick & Easy
@SwamiChampakAnand7 жыл бұрын
kontioaloshfhj o
@dedepriyanto36697 жыл бұрын
the smaller the eye and the thicker the wire, the sooner this type of splicing becomes a problem. the fact that the two ends had an overlap complicated things even more in this case.I always start intertwining the to pairs from the middle to the both ends. give the left a twist, then the right on etc...
@mtsreimerswaal492 жыл бұрын
I read all comments. Comment: cut the free hand of rope from the wooden reel. It was obvious from the first picture you started the video that will lead you wrong finish. When you separated strands 3-3 it was the second signal, first 3 strand was different lengths of position, .. etc .. etc,.. of course everyone knows what they are doing and of course you all know better than me !
@rasitcopur4 жыл бұрын
Not a high enough helix in the strands. Make wire rope of a living and that looks like cheap imported rope. We check every rope every time we cut to make sure the helix is in spec for every rope we make. Told the cheap imported stuff don't go through the same quality checks.
@Cak40595 жыл бұрын
It did it cause the 3 strands had to much gap between the wires. Set wire where it bends up n pick at 3 oclock open six times with core on right
@thetruth9172 жыл бұрын
the lay length of rope are wrong from the manufacturer..in others words that is called fly away..
@dudzquinlob30637 жыл бұрын
Correct!!!
@Marcelo_Malure_Consultoria7 жыл бұрын
just tie a granny not in it , that always works . :)
@theklrdudeoo91735 жыл бұрын
That's called a Molly Hogan loop
@deanarmour66424 жыл бұрын
I really am not sure what the problem is here or even if there is a problem. Please explain someone what is going on.
@outsidethepyramid7 жыл бұрын
Hi Steven!!! This wire rope would be pre-formed, but due a manufactory problem, when this wire rope is opened, the strands don't stay the same way. Our furnisher replace this material. Thanks for watching my video.
@Marcelo_Malure_Consultoria7 жыл бұрын
Marcelo Silva thank you for the explanation :)
@absolutelynot73944 жыл бұрын
Nice
@user-ry8fg2os2j2 жыл бұрын
That is a mess... that’s what happens with China Rope
@Kevinc344765 жыл бұрын
you guys definitely do not know what you are doing.
@ryanemery48407 жыл бұрын
Well, that didn't work.
@acadman43227 жыл бұрын
Is that eye can worked well?? I don't think so.....
@dodokiwi7-we7 жыл бұрын
Definitely no.
@Marcelo_Malure_Consultoria7 жыл бұрын
First, I think this cable is probably junk. Second, if you wound the core side in rather than the strand side, this would not happen. One more thing, Why does it take two people to do this?? I have done this for 35 years now and I can do 2" regular eyes.
@ChrisJohnson-bl1eh7 жыл бұрын
Why people who do something in an old fashioned way always criticize others for making the job easier? "Why do you need a crane? In my day, I could lift 250-kg bag of sand to the 100th floor on my back. I'm a disabled hunchback now but it's still the right way to do it". Go get a beer or something, ffs!
@Maloy78007 жыл бұрын
you picked the wrong strands to work with was all. find the 12 o'clock point and go back 2
@JCcanU6 жыл бұрын
FFS they dont have a clue how to tuck wire rope that rope is 1 1/4 inch hard to handle, but they messed it up when they undone the strands!
@1Hohepa16 жыл бұрын
i just play with it. you guys need more learning.
@elmercartagena23636 жыл бұрын
What you I need there's a big old bird nest
@thedirtycorner88165 жыл бұрын
Te falto meter las puntas en mexico lo acemos mejor
@diferencialescentral21334 жыл бұрын
bravo ti ga bato
@vladislavkostic41177 жыл бұрын
soy estrobista.con 6 años de experiencia
@markcaway28626 жыл бұрын
Это не заплетение -это херня.Запелетение --это когда проколы делаешь/////
@nsarcasi19855 жыл бұрын
First off the lay on this rope is just not that good, second if you take more than 6 lays you should take 2 and 4 strands, however with this rope i would take 2and 4 anyway. Usually Chinese or American galvanized ropes have the worst lay preforms.
@brianjohnston42074 ай бұрын
La costura FILIPINA
@rodrigomelimansandoval37103 жыл бұрын
Cabo de aço 32 mm alma de aço pré-formação 6 por 25.
@DanielPereira-mh7yw5 жыл бұрын
Isso mesmo...
@Marcelo_Malure_Consultoria5 жыл бұрын
out of lay core wire is worng
@justinchandler78227 жыл бұрын
32mm
@ruslanbabayev744 жыл бұрын
Teen years experience I need work
@worldnewsbangla7655 жыл бұрын
post your cv on KZhead. good idea
@osmith50867 күн бұрын
now when some one dies or something is damaged because of subpar material, you're to blame...not the manufacturers...should have went with German or Japanese...
@grishguillotine435 жыл бұрын
Sorry maybe i have had to splice too much junk rope . There is definatly a rope issue but your splicing technique exasperated the problem . If you take the 3strand side and get it started on the core side of the crotch it will keep the core from slipping in as you wind the eye. As soon as you locked the core side you could see the slip and should have unlocked and switched sides. But seeing as you did notnhave a sleeve on the cable i am guessing this was just a test ;)
@brucealbright77667 жыл бұрын
Exacerbated. :-)
@Maloy78007 жыл бұрын
Hes said crotch lol
@madmaxinthunderdome7 жыл бұрын
so what now ?
@TheErdemkarakus4 жыл бұрын
ອ່ອນ
@jokkykhinak17847 жыл бұрын
Wrong Wrong Wrong !!!
@Drillmechanic4 жыл бұрын
The wire rope it is not of the best quality
@GaboAurelioVevo6 жыл бұрын
For any needs about steel wire rope PLZ contact me WhatsApp:+86 18036231199 .We are manufacturer of steel wire rope in China. We have best quality,do you need it?
@bowenxu94863 жыл бұрын
AMATEURS
@Mike_the_Machine6 жыл бұрын
why? look like project fail.....
@patrickwkw33813 жыл бұрын
This is not compleat vdo
@PB-by3zt6 жыл бұрын
cheap chinese wire :D
@p33v36 жыл бұрын
wrong
@justinchandler78227 жыл бұрын
too many ppl I made 15 dollars a hr. doing by myself I'm 6 5. in 355 lbs 💪😁
Leave a slightly longer tail end, makes life easier, also a bit of tape on the strands stops them fraying so much
We call that a 'Flemish eye' but we use a 2 & 4 strand divide and fasten the ends with a bulldog grip. We use it in emergencies for a quick fix and normally use a Liverpool splice but there are many variations & mixed ways to splice. I was a trawler man but friend of mine was a rigger in the mines at Whitehaven England and it was magic how he managed those huge cables. There were no twisting machines then and when the came they made the job so much easier. It must be great to have brains!
Gerry Doyle not a flemish eye but a super loop ,you don't splice tails in a super loop, a flemish eye splice is totally diffrent and has a difrent use.a Liverpool splice is non load bearing as you wrap the tail strands around one strand as with a normal splice you tuck strands across and under strands which end up locking them in place so it can be load bearing......and swl is usually half the breaking strain of the rope
Это опасная петля. И опасность в том, что она сразу не расплетается, она расплетётся позже и неожиданно, когда вы поверите, что она надёжная.
This is great, can you help me to check safe weight load for it?
We ran into this problem before. Try forming the eye from the middle. It push up the core as much. Hopefully that works.
This product was with manufacturing problems. Our supplier changed for us. Thanks for your comments!!!
Here's a tip for strand ends ...tape them up with electricians tape .wrap it to tighten strand anti clockwise...also good when cutting strands stops them opening
Use of tape like that would’ve been frowned upon in the old days but, in reality, it’s a very practical way of keeping strands from unraveling while working on a splice. Covers the sharp ends as well.
@@caroleast9636 how far back do you call the old days lol im 56 now and we used it 30 years ago .lol yr right actually my dad never used tape or gloves ..hard old men in them days
you can twist the strands back to its natural lay, after the lay is broken.
So many experts in the comment section. Oh my!
I make my Tails 1 Ft or so longer than the Eye ,Then do the Eye & wind the 2 tails into single line , Then Put the Eye in a Vice & take a tapered bar & Twist the Notch of the eye & Lay the Tail into the Standing Line & put on a a few Cosby Clamps - Quick & Easy
kontioaloshfhj o
the smaller the eye and the thicker the wire, the sooner this type of splicing becomes a problem. the fact that the two ends had an overlap complicated things even more in this case.I always start intertwining the to pairs from the middle to the both ends. give the left a twist, then the right on etc...
I read all comments. Comment: cut the free hand of rope from the wooden reel. It was obvious from the first picture you started the video that will lead you wrong finish. When you separated strands 3-3 it was the second signal, first 3 strand was different lengths of position, .. etc .. etc,.. of course everyone knows what they are doing and of course you all know better than me !
Not a high enough helix in the strands. Make wire rope of a living and that looks like cheap imported rope. We check every rope every time we cut to make sure the helix is in spec for every rope we make. Told the cheap imported stuff don't go through the same quality checks.
It did it cause the 3 strands had to much gap between the wires. Set wire where it bends up n pick at 3 oclock open six times with core on right
the lay length of rope are wrong from the manufacturer..in others words that is called fly away..
Correct!!!
just tie a granny not in it , that always works . :)
That's called a Molly Hogan loop
I really am not sure what the problem is here or even if there is a problem. Please explain someone what is going on.
Hi Steven!!! This wire rope would be pre-formed, but due a manufactory problem, when this wire rope is opened, the strands don't stay the same way. Our furnisher replace this material. Thanks for watching my video.
Marcelo Silva thank you for the explanation :)
Nice
That is a mess... that’s what happens with China Rope
you guys definitely do not know what you are doing.
Well, that didn't work.
Is that eye can worked well?? I don't think so.....
Definitely no.
First, I think this cable is probably junk. Second, if you wound the core side in rather than the strand side, this would not happen. One more thing, Why does it take two people to do this?? I have done this for 35 years now and I can do 2" regular eyes.
Why people who do something in an old fashioned way always criticize others for making the job easier? "Why do you need a crane? In my day, I could lift 250-kg bag of sand to the 100th floor on my back. I'm a disabled hunchback now but it's still the right way to do it". Go get a beer or something, ffs!
you picked the wrong strands to work with was all. find the 12 o'clock point and go back 2
FFS they dont have a clue how to tuck wire rope that rope is 1 1/4 inch hard to handle, but they messed it up when they undone the strands!
i just play with it. you guys need more learning.
What you I need there's a big old bird nest
Te falto meter las puntas en mexico lo acemos mejor
bravo ti ga bato
soy estrobista.con 6 años de experiencia
Это не заплетение -это херня.Запелетение --это когда проколы делаешь/////
First off the lay on this rope is just not that good, second if you take more than 6 lays you should take 2 and 4 strands, however with this rope i would take 2and 4 anyway. Usually Chinese or American galvanized ropes have the worst lay preforms.
La costura FILIPINA
Cabo de aço 32 mm alma de aço pré-formação 6 por 25.
Isso mesmo...
out of lay core wire is worng
32mm
Teen years experience I need work
post your cv on KZhead. good idea
now when some one dies or something is damaged because of subpar material, you're to blame...not the manufacturers...should have went with German or Japanese...
Sorry maybe i have had to splice too much junk rope . There is definatly a rope issue but your splicing technique exasperated the problem . If you take the 3strand side and get it started on the core side of the crotch it will keep the core from slipping in as you wind the eye. As soon as you locked the core side you could see the slip and should have unlocked and switched sides. But seeing as you did notnhave a sleeve on the cable i am guessing this was just a test ;)
Exacerbated. :-)
Hes said crotch lol
so what now ?
ອ່ອນ
Wrong Wrong Wrong !!!
The wire rope it is not of the best quality
For any needs about steel wire rope PLZ contact me WhatsApp:+86 18036231199 .We are manufacturer of steel wire rope in China. We have best quality,do you need it?
AMATEURS
why? look like project fail.....
This is not compleat vdo
cheap chinese wire :D
wrong
too many ppl I made 15 dollars a hr. doing by myself I'm 6 5. in 355 lbs 💪😁
boring boring!!!!!!!