Game Theory: The Monster In The Shadows (Poppy Playtime Chapter 2)
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Today we return to the terrifying world of Poppy Playtime. Now that I've had the chance to play through all of Poppy Playtime Chapter 2, it's time to see what secrets we can uncover from the gameplay as well as the game files. We are talking DEEP LORE, Theorists! From The Prototype, 1006, to Poppy herself - we have our work cut out for us!
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In the game itself, it is VERY strongly implied that the other toys were created from the orphan children. If you read the test sheets, you’ll see that each orphan child participating in the game station has been assigned a toy. It’s likely that after they completed the tests to the company’s satisfaction, they were fused with their assigned toy.
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Begone BOTS. But Eeeuuugh, that is absolutely something I would believe and also be utterly horrified at 💀
so the small dead toys (possibly eaten by the bigger toys) on the floor everywhere were the kids fused with they're toy 💀
i'm only going to add the games on the game station are test just to witness if those orphans can be turned into toys
I think that Huggy Wuggy having "Maximum obedience" implies that he wouldnt have tried to kill you on his own accord and that someone sent him after you.
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True, mabey 1006 told Huggy?
I believe in the first chapter it is said that huggy wuggy is the factory's security system, so it would go after those deemed intruders. At least that's what I remember
Interesting idea, I like it! It also mentions Huggy has "Sufficient" intelligence, which may mean he isn't actually very smart, maybe more dog level, just smart enough for whatever the company wants him to do.
Personal theory on my part: Poppy didn't send the letter. She was locked up until we came along, so not sure how she could have done it. The Prototype is, what I think, the most likely suspect. Why still remains to be seen though
Wasn't it written in blood?
Maybe hoping for a chain reaction to escape? We did accidentally help him get his hands on MLL.
Maybe Kissy Missy send it to us but exp. 1006 is makes sense too
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The prototype is giving me a death row inmate vibe. He's smart and resourceful, knows how to escape, and is extremely willing to kill. Is it possible that Elliot used someone who was already meant to die before moving on to testing "less intelligent", more obedient orphans? That would explain why the prototype has an abnormal design. He was never assigned a toy because he isn't a kid.
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That makes sense
Great thinking!
The prototype is gaving me a death row imate vibes. He's smart and resourceful and he knows this how to escape and it is extremely willing to kill. It's is it possible that Elliot used someone that was already meant to die before moving on to testing less inteil gent , or obedient orphans? That would explain why the prototype has an abnormal design . He was never assigned a toy because he isn't a kid .
What if the prototype’s main body/body core is actually the execution device ? I mean some sort of attachment to the object they’re being turned into is needed as seen by children being paired with toys.
A suggestion: If we go along with the theory of "orphans being turned into monsters" and the poster encouraging adoption, what if the kids that weren't adopted were turned into toys, so they could still be "adopted into a household" in a sick way. I know this is most likely untrue but it's a weird thought I got.
That's actually an interesting concept, and it actually doesn't sound too far fetched either.
@@BeeBuggie thanks
The minigames we work through make a point of emphasizing that they're testing the children for certain qualities. That didn't seem like it was just meant to be a find sort of "playtime lore" for the kids and parents to me.
@@VoidWalkerOblivion I thought that could've been testing too
@@dontmindme7653 i didnt mind you
The death messages “The prototype saved us” and “ isn’t he wonderful?”, gives me the assumption that The prototype perhaps saved the other possessed toys by murdering the humans experiment on them. I believe the toys were at first grateful to the prototype until the prototype started killing the them. I also think the orphanage the company advertised was really to have more test subjects
I like this idea about the prototype. Another theory could be that is your (the player) supressed memories and maybe it became like a demon or entity that became the prototype. Some of the workers then felt like he should be worshipped.
Just how like India supports and cheers for Russia and thanks them and then in the end Russia betrays India and blows it up
Your usage of "the" is all over the place lol
@@user-zi8lg5qu1h the them
Or maybe it’s just the prototype trying to make you drop your guard. “Isn’t he wonderful” sounds like something you’d say about yourself while pretending to be someone else. Just a theory a piggyback theory.
There's one detail worth looking into though; the animated toys' pupils became almost as wide as their eyes when they're attacking or going aggressive. Poppy's eyes weren't as wide as in the end of the chapter when we first met her, maybe we have something to do with the toys' aggression?
If you look closely, there are even red lights / glows in mommy’s eyes as she counts from ten
Kind of reminds me of the way cats eyes work. The pupils become bigger when they focus on something.
All I know is that I hope we see more of Kissy Missy, I don't know how helpful lore wise she'll be, but... Come on... She's adorable.
Well, Chapter 3's trailer has Poppy riding Kissy when she says the part about taking revenge on "those monsters who tortured you, who tortured us!" Mostly the "tortured us" part.
I’ve been watching other theorists, and some of them believe that Stella still got her wish to become a toy. Not as Poppy, but as Kissy Missy. Think about it, even though we only saw her once, she didn’t attack us and instead helped us. Plus, with the way she looked back at the Player, she might’ve recognized them as a former employee or at least isn’t feral and still retained some of Stella’s kindness.
I really like that theory
I saw someone suggest that Stella is actually the player character. It would also make some level of sense...she fills guilt about everything that happened and wants to fix it somehow. When she learns the staff is still alive, she goes on.
The fact that her voice comes from the kissy missy cutout makes this theory pretty likely.
@@megameme29 Unless they didn't hire more voice actors than possible roles for some reason(budget?), I thought that was the dead giveaway who she is now. Or maybe we're just wrong.
Wait.. could it be that Kissy is not violent because she agreed to the experiment and she got what she wanted? Are the other toys violent because they were forced against their own will?
Question is: who's giving Huggy the orders if he's so obedient? Obedience doesn't simply mean obeying anyone and everyone you see but loyalty to your superior (at least that's what the context is seeming to say).
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Probably the prototype
4:37 // I don't really know if I'm overthinking the background noises or they are genuinely what they think I are, but if you listen closely to the background noises while the male scientist is talking, you can hear banging on what I would assume to be a metal door and screams from all of the other Playtime Co. employees. Based on the situation, the background context of how the Prototype has a history of escaping confinement, it's a possible theory that the audio log during // 4:37 // happened in a confined room with all of the Playtime Co. employees within, while someone (or something, most likely the Prototype) is trying to break in.
The screams are muffled though, as if in another room. More than likely, Ludwig locked himself in a safe room of sorts and Experiment 1006 was killing everyone else outside and the other employees were trying to get him to open the door to let them in. Only for Experiment 1006 to kill them and break through it himself at the end.
My question is how does Poppy, a doll made in 1950, have a soul of someone who died in the 1960s? Personally, I think Poppy has a soul of someone we haven’t met yet
Playtime co could have been a normal company until the death tho
She was the daughter of Elliot Ludwig so when she died she was put in the new doll 😅
Like everytime, MatPat is here to create the lore of a game
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I’m glad hes making a theory instead of not making a theory because of the current situation with poppy playtime
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He better get a cut of the movie royalties
only for the game to contradict itself to try and subvert expectations
6:58 Everyone keeps thinking Huggy Wuggy survived and pulled himself into the vents, but what I think makes more sense is that the Prototype dragged his corpse into the vents and incorporated him into itself like Mommy Long Legs says as she's ground up!
I believe that huggy lives
@@rishinsenguptagoddestroyer5024 i don't
@@rishinsenguptagoddestroyer5024 like i agree with the idea that the prototype got him
This makes more sense to me too
I personally think that Huggy survived, but it’s definitely possible that the prototype got to him.
When I first saw the Prototypes claw, I immediately thought of the Beldam from Coraline. I'm not saying they're the same, but she did make dolls that looked like her victims.
I'm so glad I'm not the one who thought about that😂
quick question: the tragic death of Ludwig's family member is from the 1960s, but Poppy was created circa 1950, doesn't this mean that the doll cannot be the family member? Maybe the one who died is the one who created Poppy, and after they died, Elliot started the experiments to figure out how to repeat their success (maybe to bring them back), and thus expanded Playtime co with the results of those experiments. The second toy, Bron, is from 1961, which cuts it close but would match the timeline better.
Ooh, true! So, maybe it *was* Ludwig’s child who died, but they were already an adult and working with him at Playtime Co. They create Poppy (either using themself or someone else), but no one knows how they did it, and now Ludwig must go through hundreds of experiments to try and revive his child.
I was just thinking the same thing about the years. I find this lore and theories so interesting.
i absolutely agree and its weird no one else is bringing that up! the dates don't match
That doesn't mean the family member can't be poppy
@@Greenisanidiot how can the doll come out in the 50s and be the family member if the family member didn’t die until the 60s?
I love how MatPat is just roasting the game while also theorizing it.
The game definitely deserves it, the game is dripping with cynicism
@@howell2010 Yeeah
Agreed, deserved.
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@@howell2010 I think u mean the company, not the game itself
Personally I feel that the protagonist is themselves an experiment. Something about the way Poppy says you'll do whatever she asks makes me think of that "maximum obedience" line.
Ah, so another "Gregory is a Robot" situation.
i think it’s just more so you’ll do whatever she says so you end up alive
she knows that at this point all the protagonist wants to do is get out of here and she’s the most likely way for them to get out. she wants to right all the wrongs in the facility but she needs help to do it, kinda a symbiotic relationship thing. just my opinion though
@@reverently Could be that, could be a bioshock "a man thinks, a slave obeys" situation.
also when she kept talking about the prototype in the death scenes and how wonderful he was it made me think she was talking to a toy standing over the player's (sorta) dead body talking about how wonderful they are.
Matpat using fnaf to solve poppy looks like when you solve a question and use it to solve the next one in a math exam X)
I absolutely love how MatPat doesn’t ignore the relation between other games and this one and gives credit to who did it first but not in a mean “they’re copying” way ❤
You didn’t mention how Poppy said “We’ll set things right.” And before the train crashed she was suddenly cut off by something. I believe the Protptype or maybe Huggy crashed the train and attacked Poppy. We don’t know what her plan exactly is, but I don’t think it’s malicious. She wants to put a stop to the evil her existence has lead to the creation of.
i doubt that Huggy Wuggy was the one that attacked poopy before the train crash if you hear really carefully it's the same sound the tape made about Elliot
It's not likely Huggy. You can hear an alarm clock as Poppy is cut off. The prototype used an alarm clock to create a lazer pointer, so it's likely the Prototype.
The high speeds and sudden braking crashes the train. I don't think it was intentional by anyone, even the Prototype or Huggy
I agree with you that Poppy probably just wants to stop whatever is happening in the factory. Her existence may be the cause and result of some evil going on but I doubt she wants to hurt the player character.
Maybe in Chapter 1 he was trying to sqve up from poppy in a twisted way
MatPat: “The Poppy Playtime lore could even be as more complicating as FNAF but it looks like it won’t be too complicating.” FNAF: “So I have finally met an opponent.”
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I love how much effort MatPat puts into his intros. I can honestly just admire it for a few minutes before I go onto watch the video 😂
10:13 Poppy was made in 1950 and the tragic family loss was in the 1960s, so Poppy might not be Elliot's kid...
I loved it when her head started spinning and just started saying “but hey! that’s just a theory right? A theory. A theory. A theory.” That’s a god tier intro if you ask me.
we meet again I see
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The note that "poppy" sent wasnt sent by her though... how could she send it behind the case? But that begs the question, who did? And why? Who could benefit from releasing poppy and a previous employee into the factory? The only one smart enough for this is the prototype, but couldnt the prototype just go into the poppy room and release poppy by themselves?
this is actually making me suspect Stella, the one so attached to staying young forever in the first place
I like these kinds of horror games, cuz not only are they doing a great job at scaring you, but the lore of the game is excellent as well! Unlike some other games that are just tryin to scare you.
Mommy Long Legs recognized the player character as a staff member and said you deserved to die for your role. In chapter 1, we're told the factory has unconventional security measures, but we never actually see any actual security. Huggy Wuggy doesn't initially attack you, and in fact gives you the key to get inside, which means Huggy Wuggy probably recognized you as staff immediately. The only reasons that seem reasonable for why he attacked you later was either 1. Someone sent him after you (maximum obedience), or 2. You entered a part of the factory that you didn't have security clearance for and psycho Huggy Wuggy was the unconventional security measures. It seems strange that you would be recognized so quickly and easily when they presumably haven't seen you in over a decade, and that mommy long legs says for your role you deserve to die unless the player character was either a head researcher of some kind or someone high up in the company who kept the experiments going.
There was a theory that Huggy was starving since he was made to have a digestive system and need to eat, and the toy we made just before he chases us made him go nuts because he wanted to eat it, killing us in his desperation to get it. He is obedient, so he was trained to not attack staff, but was desperate and blindsighted by his hunger.
Huggy Wuggy IS the security
I love this theory, that’s smart!
Or you look nearly identical to when you left because *you* aren't quite human anymore either.
Based on some of the death screens, such as "The prototype has saved us" and "Isn't he amazing", I wouldn't be surprised if we found out the player character was a successful experiment of some kind. Like sombody decided to see if the tech used to make dolls could also make a human.
I think this is highly unlikely since it appears we worked at the factory before these experiments could reach these results. I know that poppy makes it seem like we are "special" in some other way, and we may well be, but I really do think we are human simply for the fact that mommy recognized us, we "worked here"
Assuming that this is correct it explains the hands. Although I haven't watched much gameplay of chapter 1 so I'm probably an idiot but if the player had normal hands why wouldn't they use them?
@@bfufhryrrhtjhxbdgkjgutitjh7877 very early into the game we equip a tool called "grab pack", It's not actually a part of us. it is just a tool developed by the company.
The prototype is the thing that takes mommy's body at the end.
@@bfufhryrrhtjhxbdgkjgutitjh7877 You have to have "normal hands" as you say, to use the grab pack fam. if you watch chapter 1, youll see a tape showing the use of the grab pack and how it functions.
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… You know to much now
The fact that everything is similar to FNaF makes it so hard to make a horror game.
I love these lore videos on horror games. They are just so interesting
I’m just gonna be here before this blows up.
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My theory is: When it was announced that Huggy Wuggy was obedient, they were referring to the "security measure" put in place from the beginning of the game in Chapter 1. In first tape the guy said something about tame security measures, but Huggy Wuggy isn't one of the tame measures. That is what they mean when they say he is obedient because he is basically a security measure for trespassers.
The guard wuggy (G-wuggy🤣) Agreed maybe experiment 1006 was the one who kept poppy locked in, the one who left the guard wuggy who is loyal to guard the entrance and put up the warnings ⚠️ on the poppy door 🚪 and who's to say if G-wuggy crawled up the vent? Didn’t mommy long legs get dragged under a door? And why didn't mommy put poppy back in her case if she wasn't on her side? Or is the main character the only employee who got the tape and letter? Could they have been the children who scored high in the tests who has grown up, escaped, called back because the prosses has been completed for living toys and poppy never truly was locked in the case but set up as a decoy for those who gets past the Guard wuggy (or G-wuggy for fun) at the entrance and ignores the warnings finds poppy then see is they can get past mommy. Just an idea 💡
Or a security measure for the Prototype. Hell, that could be why its aiming to make itself stronger, so it can become powerfull enough to kill Huggy and leave
@@filipvadas7602 touche my fine friend 🧐, I didn't think about that
@@filipvadas7602 woah maybe.. 😨 that actually makes a lot of sense But it's odd.. why would huggy help us by giving us the power key? I agree he may have been a security for the prototype, if we think about how he starts chasing us when we get deeper to the poppy flower (aka closer to the prototype) but still the key thing at the start.. it does not fit at all
Makes sense
I love to think that you just write the lore whenever the creators (MOB) just watch your videos and go “hm he’s right do that”
There’s a flaw in your theory is that poppy was made in 1950 but the tape said that Ludwig suffered a lost in the 1960’s at 10:18
Mommy long legs death is so brutal it’s amazing. This chapter did better than the first one for sure.
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@@diamond_chaos yes
I honestly kept waiting for huggy to reappear, but i guess he ded for real
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Certainly better than the Security Breach deaths.
I love how often MatPat randomly references Fnaf throughout the video. It’s like he can’t escape it 😂.
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He really can't 😅
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It started his channel. Now it won’t let go
I love the commitment, energy, and uniqueness of intro Matt makes ❤👍😃
I just love how much matt uses the fnaf stuff its honestly highlarious
The FNAF similarities are golden, and this just shows how (sarcastically) excited Mat is for a new update on their lore
well I would expect fnaf similarities since the original creators made minecraft fnaf animations
I loved the shade it's great lmao
ikr, even at one point when mat was speaking to an FNAF 4 scene, the Poppy PlayTime characters just appeared looking worried prob due to the lore similarities
@@kwz9930 oh ye, makes sense
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Poppy doesn’t betray us she says “ we’ll st things right, disturbing things have been happening but i have you to do it “ or something like that she needs us to stop the insanity in the facility
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@@paperisbored Cause he's a self-promoting Spammer.
Plus it isn’t like Poppy could do anything to stop this herself, she’s too small to fight off the other toys and the prototype, I really don’t think Poppy isn’t evil.
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wy do i love these poppy playtime episodes so much? the intros? the awesome lore? how bout all the above
2:32 maybe the character playing actually knew poppy that’s why they let her out ignoring the signs.
Big brainz
Something I realized is that Chapter 2 literally repeated the formula for Chapter 1, except kind of different Go to factory, get hand, do puzzles, forget about enemy so they can scare you, long scary chase with twist and turns, then kill enemy
That can be said for fnaf as well.
Honestly it reminded me of Bendy chapter 3, where the devs had zero idea what to do with the game so they just added fetch quest after fetch quest with lore sprinkled here and there
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@@noxtide7043 talking of bandy reminds me that I think there has been some controversy surrounding the devs of poppy playtime, don't know that much about it other than the crypto stuff but I remember coming across some long videos about it so the nft it's probably not the only one
@@noxtide7043 tbh that is poppy playtime in general BATIM 2
I love how FNAF references are trying to connect itself in every horror game, including in Poppy Playtime, And how it messes Matpat's theories because of its references
so basicly almost every horror game these days are trying to get a game theory video and replicate fnaf or bendy.
And most of the indie video games have the same elements either: -Dead Children -Old Employee / Owner of an abadoned factory -A company which created to entertain children -The owner of the company is always a depressed middle aged old man with trouble marriage or suffering from depresions -The protagonist got the letter from the company -Terrfiying monsters which are the products of the companies
@@margarethmichelina5146 i agree.
@@margarethmichelina5146 A indie horror game cliché
@@margarethmichelina5146 great generalization and observation over there... Nice 👍
When I heard Huggy Wuggy had maximum obedience, I thought the same thing. It’s nice to know that someone else theorized this as well.
this man is so obsessed with fnaf that he relates it to something thats not at all fnaf and i love it
Or maybe, it's because Poppyplaytime looks more like a copycat game of Fnaf... Just saying...
@@disturbed1013 not really it’s more batim
I know everyone else here has noted that the subtle hint at Huggy Wuggy being very obedient means that someone is clearly pulling the strings somewhere, but I also think it means that at some point WE, the player, will be allowed to give him orders to help us through a chapter.
But the problem with this is that all the toys hated adults, we can see this in the reports of the living toys with orphan kids, mostly for mommy but still we can assume because we didn't hear of any of the toys killing kids with these experiments did we? So the only way this would work is if we find an orphan kid, which I believe kissy missy has since she isn't hostile towards us
What if we are a teen not kid or adult. What if we left before the chaos happened
@@foldffhudh4419 i think mommy say's that we used to work at the factory 10 year's ago so we wouldn't be a teenager
@@foldffhudh4419 sorry if I am wrong
@@foldffhudh4419 No, the game straight out says we used to WORK at the factory! So we have to be an adult.
I find it odd how the beta scene has Poppy's voice more sad and Sympathetic but the final version is twisted and happy. It's like they debated on the direction on if Poppy was a Victim to care for or a Villain to fear.
VICTIM SHE IS A VICTIM SHE JUST WANTS TO NOT BE ALONE!! BUT THATS JUST A THEORY A GAME THEORY!!
To me she's both :>
Cz the script is different
I suspect Poppy has motives and goals of her own, and she plans on using the player to accomplish those goals, whether we want to or not. One way this could end up is with the player having to make a choice toward the end whether or not to save Poppy or allow her to die, and it will mostly hinge on whether or not you agree with what she was trying to do. Now, I don't think that's super likely, but it does feel like the plot might be setting itself up for where such a situation would be plausible at least. In desperate circumstances the lines between villains and victims can blur. Everyone has a goal, even if it's just to survive, and they'll do almost anything to achieve it.
So, In how close this game is to FNAF, I feel like the creators were somewhat inspired by FNAF, I mean horror, bringing inanimate objects to life, expiramenting on children? It’s all really similar, to similar to be a coincidence.
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My theory is that Huggy Wuggy's "Obedience" entails that he will end up helping you defeat The Prototype in the end somehow. He doesnt seem nearly as evil as the The Prototype is, and The Prototype would completely over shadow Huggy Wuggy, who is the literal face of the franchise, as the game's big bad.
I predict Huggy and Kissy are both gonna tear into the Prototype during the final battle like two wolves trying to take on a bear
I mean maybe, but he did chase you, he wanted to kill the player.
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@@blueninjanoname7338 well you were an intruder & at the beginning a voice on a speaker / recording said to abandon the building before the, unconventional security system activated & went after you for trespassing. i am of the opinion that huggy wuggy is that security system, & that he & kissy missy are the only things keeping the prototype contained within the factory. otherwise the prototype would have waltzed to the outside world & ripping society a new one from the get go.
@@cr90captain89 hasn't the prototype been shown to be much more dangerous than huggy wuggy though? How could they keep the prototype contained.
I think that those orphans were tested for their intelligence to see children are the most optimal to become a toy. Since the whole point of the game station is the test how intelligent a child and intelligence seems to be important in the experiments for the living toys. Also I think when huggy Wuggy hits the pipes, that’s not blood, it’s the poppy gel.
Poppy gel? Did I miss something?
@@Zempie In the experiment note found in Elliot's office in Chapter 2, it was explained how the dead lab rats were placed in poppy gel due to the original flower's reviving capabilities as mentioned in myths, before they received electric shocks to energize and wake them up. The poppy flower is deep red, so I imagine the gel was also red, which gives @Killer_snas theory of Huggy Wuggy's blood actually being poppy gel plausible credibility. That would mean the majority of blood found in the factory was actually poppy gel, too, which makes this not as gory, but still pretty eerie for how close they are in appearance.
@@Zempie there's a sheet in Elliots office that talks about a gel solution used to bring animals/humans back to life with the power of poppies
I agree with the orphan thing! If i remember correctly, mummy at one point hints at the children not having a mommy so she will be their‘s. She was taking care of the orphans. The play area is there to keep the children at peace and make it seem all fun and game when in reality they were being tested and studied for the experiments
It could be both becasue the organs are needed and the gel is their to preserve the body , based on the infor provided.
Whoever did the voice for Mommy in the intro did fantastic!
So far, this game seems like it would make for a great multiplayer survival game where you play as one of the toys
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Let’s all be honest, we’ve all been waiting for this game theory ever since this chapter came out
Let's all be honest, we've all been waiting for game theory to say he's done covering this cyberbullying game
@@helluvqueen yep same here
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@@toobad7199 I agree
true , but i was disappointed that the next part is after a week OR TWO
I like how this "mysterious hand" thing looks just like the Beldam´s (aka Coraline´s other Mother´s) hand, just a lot bigger. Even the fact that it looks like it was made out of needles.
Exactly what I was thinking lol
fr tho lol
Maybe they took inspiration from it
True. Also that is the owner of the toy factory . He is still building toys till this day
Im so glad I'm not the only one who saw the resemblance. I kid you not when I was watching that part I said out loud: what in the Coraline f***ery is this?
Poppy, saying we are “perfect” and keeps us trapped in the factory The Prototype, recycling organic parts and being incredibly smart Huggy Wuggy, supposedly very obedient and also herding us in Poppy’s direction I feel like these three are working together, and that’s why Huggy, nor Poppy have been killed yet. The prototype could totally have broken through Poppy’s glass if he wanted to reach her, and Huggy was literally out in the open when we met him. I feel like Poppy might double-cross them at some point, but I don’t have much of a clue.
Although mommy was only taken by the prototype when she died. So maybe its not that strong yet
@@lmads8023 I think it’s more, “seizing an opportunity,” and considering how agile and fast Mommy is, she might’ve just been a more difficult target. Lucky they didn’t have to do anything, just lying in wait for the spider to get caught in it’s own web
this game has so much lore ngl
I believe the prototype is Elliot. He just wanted to bring back his daughter, but when he died, someone else (probably the missing slide name) became in charge, and decided that living toys would make a load of money, so he brought Elliot back in a toy, the prototype. Enraged that his experiment was used for marketing, he was extremely violent and wants to escape the factory. Edit: thanks for the likes
Yeah I believe so too.
This game is confusing in general
This theory was already told by super horror bro Michael
Sounds like Fnaf but with new characters but yeah, I agree that it's most likely Eliot Ludwig weather he became it through accident or not.
@@myboyeee9868 To be fair, it isn't finished yet. Still have a few chapters to go.
Great Video! *This theory is so amazing*
okay but the voice acting at 0:19 was actually terrifying, i wasn't expecting the tone to drop so suddenly and it seriously sounds like MLL is upset ^•^
In the intro when Mommy was a silhouette she looked like Mickey Mouse to me. I think I’m too used to Mickey Mouse being antagonistic to Matpat. I didn’t expect this to be a concern in my life.
AoOoOaH iT's FiNalLy HeRE
Wait, I wonder if its finally here????
What do you mean? Of course it's finally here! The "it" is finally here!...Whatever that is.
13:57 Theory: When you go down Ludwig's slide in the beginning of the game, on the far right there is a slide with its letter stripped off. They are scattered on the floor. I don't know what they spell out, but when someone figures it out, I feel like that missing name might be our protagonist
That’s something I also thought.
Itwould make sense
Hmmmm
mmmmmm yeaa yes!!!
Perhaps since Elliot couldn't figure out how he made Poppy in 1950, that might be why the tragic family loss in the 1960s took a tol on him, because he couldn't resurrect whoever died.
Whenever there's a game matpat is here to explain it. "That's just a theory! A game theory!"
Toys: "He's Saved Us!" The Prototype: *"Oh I wouldn't say 'saved'. More like 'Under New Management'."*
Amazing meme
Never knew he's a Megamind fan.
Only thing I wanna mention is Poppy isn’t the one who crashed the train, something cuts her off mid-monologue and then the train goes out of control. It could be the prototype, it could be something new, or it could be the train itself malfunctioning.
Doesn’t the player crash the train?
@@nexsus6143 The player stops the train when it is going faster than it is supposed to. The train is unable to stop due to its speed, loses control, and flips over.
I figured Kissy interrupted her bc she was helping the player but I could be wrong
Actually I don't remember where I saw it but Poppy had a longer monologue that explained more, but it was cut for some reason.
It seems the prospect can control other toys for a bit. So I think in the game poppy was being contol and at the end broke away from it.
0:09 why does she kind of sound like Spinnel? 8:36 my phone had rang and that scared me SO MUCH!
6:00 I can only imagine how much fun it was for the voice actress to scream into the microphone like that 😂
Am I the only one who obviously sees that poppy didn’t crash the train? She’s in the middle of her villain monologue and then- what’s- SHE CUTS OFF which means something went wrong. I firmly believe someone hacked the train. And it wasn’t poppy. She has a different plan than to crash our train, she wanted to take us into the factory to complete some other purpose.
It seems pretty obvious who it is. The part where you can hear she was cut off, you hear an alarm clock. If you remember from one of the tapes, the Prototype had an alarm clock in it's containment room. So it seems that The Prototype was the one who caused the train crash
@@rookie693 I agree with you
@@rookie693 Makes sense
@@rookie693 didn't he destroy the alarm clock and make the laser?
I bet its the prototype. He seems to be keeping a watchful eye on us
Mommy's head spinning and her saying "A theory, a theory, a theory" is officially the creepiest thing I've ever seen
Yep
The two unique things about Poppy is her size and her ability to be replicated. She is the smallest but yet also one of the smartest toys we met on the series so far. Which means Poppy couldn't have possible been made out of employees like the other toys she was made out of something different. Poppy was made from orphans. They're small to fit the toys size, they had close relationship with agency implying a long history with them. Plus they can keep the brain intact which would allow for the perfect self talking kids toys decades a head of coding. Plus their size could be way shorter and just as smart as a the other giant talking toys.
(my theory on poppy's ending lore) when she is talking about being able to exist as a doll which has killed millions, it means trying to use humans in the toys making monsters instead 🤔
The adopted daughter feels real thin. The more obvious conclusion would be getting orphans for their thousands of experiments. Unless of course you found something more to imply the adopted daughter thing that just wasn't included. Always enjoy the content. I'm looking forward to more videos on Poppy's Playtime.
Yeah I was thinking that too but its the best thing I think we got or its a random orphan. I feel we dont have the pieces to understand this quite yet tbh. Feel closer, but not close enough
Yeah, Mat is definitely just making an assumption that he seems pretty convinced is right. To say "we now know Poppy is Elliot Ludwig's adopted daughter" at the end was pretty bold, lol
that would also explain why poppy is hostile to us, the player, if she were, in fact, an orphan that was abducted and experimented on by the employees, which we might be a part of. this therefore means that there was some other starting point, a different inciting incident. maybe the father started doing these experiments after he couldn't save his precious child because he didn't want another accident to occur to other children, but that wouldn't explain why the company wanting more obedient toys like huggy wuggy. at this point I'd say that we don't have enough info yet, but mat can still try his best.
If poppy was some random orphan than why would she care at all about the company and employees
I like it as a story beat, it provides motivation for Elliot to be obsessed with preserving and reanimating life, while adding a little twist on the “bringing my dead kid back as a ______” trope to differentiate it from other indie horror series that did it first. Maybe in future chapters they’ll add in more and more hints to back up the theories
Matpat: really challenging collectable trophies. Also Matpat: *bypasses the very obvious, shiny, golden and ominous trophy
That was the joke in the beginning of this video lol
Why’re there so many bots?
@@alexasmith3157 I don't know buts very annoying. They are spreading like wildfire but youtube does nothing.
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To MatPat himself, I found something really valuable. Go and find a video someone made about exploring an unfinished version of the game hidden in the files. Poppy’s monologue is different and confirms my theory that she is not against us
3:30 i think that she change the way of the train, but she doesnt crash it. Something attacked her while she was talking
Something to consider: they said that huggy wuggy was the most obedient creation of them all. So when he started chasing us through the vents trying to kill us, was that a malfunction, or was there someone behind the scenes telling him to do that? And if so, who is it?
Someone probably told huggy wuggy.
The prototype probably since he pulls the strings
He was probably a there to be a guard or something so when he saw us he probably think we're gonna do something bad so started chasing us it's like a misunderstanding
He was the security the video tape in the very beginning warned whoever was trespassing.
The company, he was a security measure. Leith himself implies this in the looped tape at the lobby, warning intruders on alarms and a nastier surprise down the road. That surprise is Huggy.
I think the toys are being made with the orphan children because, around the factory, you find sheets of paper that have childrens names as "test subjects" and other information about them. Also, the 3 games that were made for the children to play had the hidden motive of testing their physical and intellectual abilities.
Another thing to back this up is the fact all kids tested on there were orphans..aka nobodies who wouldn’t be missed and easy to cover up
@@testerwulf3357 man thats dark
10:50 I love moments likes this xD The expression on their faces omg-🤣
I absolutely loved how you walked Chica off camera and the sound panned away too lmao
8:07 I wish they'd kept the cut monologue. Poppy doesn't take that stupid sinister turn, she's apologetic, and still as sweet as she is at the beginning of the chapter. I was worried about her when Mommy snagged her at the beginning of the chapter, and relieved upon freeing her. After seeing the Prototype drag Mommy's remains off, I had a sense of needing to stop it. That _is_ why the player is there in the first place, right? Righting the wrongs of what happened in the factory. If Poppy kept the honesty and sweetness from the beginning of the chapter, I think more players would like her. What's more, I think more players would feel greater tension from her monologue getting cut off by the Prototype. 7:18 _Look, I just like her, alright?!_
Hey you don't have to be ashamed for being a Simp
Yeah, even in the og cut its clear she wasn't the one who crashed the train. You can hear in her voiceline she's confused by the train speeding up before she cuts out and we're forced to pull the emergency brake and crash. That screams sabotage by something else to me.
@@dustrose8101 I imagine her confusion is more from the Prototype's alarm clock cutting her off, but yeah.
Yeah
Personally I think Poppy is still a heroic character. Maybe an anti-hero? She seems determined to stop the horrors at the factory, but she's also willing to lie to you to ensure your help. I'm pretty sure something attack her which caused the train to go screwy - hence why she can't finish her explanation.
We're you able to hear the alarm clock? Right before Poppy gets grabbed, you can hear an alarm clock right before the train crashes. It's hard tk hear over someone talking, but it's there. Also in the logs in Ch2 it talks about Exp. 1006 dismantling an alarm clock. So it's possible it still has the alarm part of the clock on its body still. So Exp. 1006 probably snatched away Poppy and also crashed the train
Or at least that's what I would think the alarm noise was for because why bring up the alarm clock in the log and then also have the alarm there? Maybe it could have also been an alarm to pull the brake, but I'm not sure I'd rather hope it's the first thing I said lol
Yeah, though her speech was ominous given her tone and the music playing while she says it, it does seem she wants to stop what's going on inside the factory. Of course tricking you and pulling you in deeper isn't what one would call heroic traits but her goal seems to be heroic. Plus, who the hell would have said "Yeah, take me deeper" if she had asked politely for a choice?
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Him knowing he brought his daughter to life in a doll can also makes sense because before we enter the poppy flower on the wall we see the tape and he says "one more break through and I'll be back." Do with that what you will
It says “The PROTOTYPE saved us” on one of these screens we get after dying. Poppy controls everything in the company so want if she made exp. 1006 be a murder machine?
The reveal of Huggy's high obedience greatly recontextualizes ch 1, as Huggy was essentially a security guard. He was just doing his job in keeping intruders, us, out of the factory.
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wow that does make sense.
so I also said this on my own comment, but I feel it implies here Huggy Wuggy is obedient, right? which means someone (or something) INSTRCUTED him to go after the player, so now that leads to who. Couldn't be Poppy because she was locked up, but that means something/someone is out for us, (which is already shown), but now it's just a matter of who is the evil mastermind behind it all. Huggy wouldn't attack unless ordered.
@@ashkin_3986 Leith Pierre, obviously. He recorded the video at the beginning of Chapter 1, warning trespassers of the "security systems" of the factory, noting that motion tripwires alerting the authorities are some of the more tame security features. Huggy was just set up on sentry duty until the player showed up.
@@ashkin_3986 I don’t think any one character set him off..I think it was security footage from the beginning that hints at the fact if you enter further you’ll be dealt with by their “security measures”..I think huggy just guards the place when the factory isn’t open which could be a command he got from long ago.
I have the feeling that whoever wrote the letter of "Find the flower" Would actually be the prototype
Jeez, look how many bots you have
damn you have a full on bot gallery
Damm, but it has to be hard to hold a pen with those long fingers
Omg someone copied my comment lmao
@@RadOwlOfficial a bot did
MatPat always finds away to compare things to fnaf lol 😭 Still the videos are amazing, and I'm always happy to see them! 🤗
Hi! I love your videos so much! Also, I have a theory. Do you remember at the death scene of Mommy Long Legs? She was screaming but then it turned into a distorted sound. Also, do you remember the cutouts of the other toys? If you pressed the button enough times they would make a distorted sound too. When Mommy Long Legs made that sound, she was dying. I think that when the toy cutouts we're making that distorted sound, they were dying. Maybe thats why there are so many dead toys.
Honestly, with all these FNAF parallels happening in Poppy Playtime, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest that the Protagonist is actually Elliot Ludwig's child, like Michael Afton in the OG Saga.
That’s very interesting! I also found this chapter very similar to Bendy and the Ink Machine for some reason
@@alexiakonstantaraki Because art is dead.
at this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if the protag escapes after 5 days/nights at 6:00 AM (assuming the protag escapes)
To be honest, fnaf has a large amount of lore and covered pretty much over *mostly* everything involved in the horror aspects. You know; serial killer, dead kids, familial plot twists, their spirits possessing otherwise inanimate objects, mind-swapping, and said serial killer is also immortal. Kinda covers everything from the supernatural aspects of horror to the gruesome concepts that mentions in both the books and the games. But I don’t think fnaf really did scientific experiments as far as I can remember other than the fazgoo mentioned that supposedly inexperienced teenagers decided to play with as if it was slime (my lighthearted interpretation of that story), so that’s the most original thing they have compared to fnaf. Which coming up with something original, is kinda hard when someone else has done it all first. It probably took a lot for the creator of Poppy Playtime to come up with something original and change a lot of their ideas simply because other creators decided to do it first, which influences their consumers to compare and contrast their brands.
@@viab.5040 In one of the stories, didn't someone experiment with bringing things to life by infusing them with pure agony? Otherwise, everything you said is completely true.
Matpat is like the cook preping our food. His theories are really tasty, and he adds extra salt to season them
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@Shino whats here-
Nah don’t mention salt, that ain’t it💀💀
DAMN RIGHT
wait, you eat his theories?
1:33 Dude, omg. I've been literally saying the same thing! Nobody else has talked about how cute Kissy Missy is during that scene.
Poppy came out in the 1950's and he lost his family member in the 1960's. Since Poppy was sentient before Ludwig's daughter died, then Poppy couldn't be Ludwig's daughter. Unless it was covered up until the 1960's or his daughter was just merged with Poppy
That’s what I thought too!
Did you notice how in the grinder scene, mommy changed perspective by saying "He'll make me part of him!" instead of "He'll make mommy part of him!"?
So cool, but I'm so curious why!!! 😭
pretty sure its because she was flipping out and being pulled into a grinder. might make her panic a bit idk
@@lordofchange8920 how are you supposed to be scary going into a grindable though
@@moonl1314 you aren't. she was being pulled into a grinder while also knowing the prototype would incorporate her into himself.
I think it’s just an intentional detail referring to herself in the third and first person
Oh boy, another theory on poppy playtime can’t wait for the lore of the game to change precisely to what MatPat says
Lol I’d actually like for Game Theory to direct the lore of a game
Honestly I’ll take that over them changing it last minute because he was *too* close, this is kinda like an indirect collaboration
I hope not :/ It just makes the game confusing If I was a indie horror game dev I would make the lore pretty hard and giving hints trough secret files,posters,messages or anything similar
I hope not.
God damn these bots Mappat needs do youtube theory on why the bots are spreading
5:58 I have never played the game but I saw so I'm just surprised by mommy long legs voice cuz I have heard so little of it that it is so surprising for some reason :o
if poppy was made in the 50s and his kid died in the 60s, they cant be the same thing. The reason you ruled out stella applies to the creators lost family member
It occurs to me we may have killed some of the few things keeping the prototype at bay. He seems to not like attacking the other toys, as he only takes Mommy Long Legs after you kill her, and we saw no signs of him in Chapter 1. My guess is that the toys are inadvertently stalling him. He may use pieces of them after they have been killed, but why won't he attack and kill them on his own, as he is surely capable of doing so.
Maybe it is actually too weak and is waiting for them to die? The toys know it's there but they aren't scared of it untill near death as shown by mommy.
@@bfufhryrrhtjhxbdgkjgutitjh7877 Its in a weird position then. Smart enough to hide, clearly able to fight in some way, as Huggy quickly ran to the vents to escape is my theory, maybe even smart enough to have tricked Poppy into luring us here, yet it refuses to try and trap the toys and kill them then, or leave the factory and not have to deal with the toys. So what's scaring it?
I don’t think he is capable of killing them, at least not yet. they said he was very intelligent, but he seems too thin to actually have any kind of power, and since I doubt stabbing plastic would do that much (with his weird claw like fingers). I think he waits until the other monsters start turning against each other, since he knows he won’t be able to beat them without any sort of power or mobility.
No the thing is, there's a lot of parts everywhere, given how intelligent it is it could probably make some type of weapon or maybe a trap.
@@EchoTheGayOne Remember, he is not a human, he is a toy with conscious thoughts and parts of a human. And if Huggy Wuggy can lift all of itself, what's to say the prototype can't? The only one that makes some level of sense for it not to chase after is Huggy, as its useful as is, and it may be scared that when it takes parts of Huggy, it may also take on its obedience, but even that is a stretch, but why not others?
i can't say why, however I feel that instead of him "losing" the daughter, he manipulated her, or just USED her to try and create the perfect toy. after all, if he brought his daughter back, why would he go threw the trouble of making more? I feel he has a much more sinister side that hasn't been fully explored yet. Like trying to create the perfect body for himself?
Ties directly into my theory that the prototype is Elliot Ludwig himself. I can't explain why, and I have absolutely zero evidence, but my gut tells me he's the real antagonist.
@@tibbothy Dude, I have the same feeling in gut too. He be the worst.
Maybe that’s WHY he adopted in the first place.
yooo! you mean like a toy Orochimaru?
That also explains the adopt a kid posters. The kids are just more test dummy that are cheap and expendable. After all. Adopted kids are easy to get if your rich.