How to make a Rose Cane - Polymer Clay Tutorial

2017 ж. 18 Там.
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This is one of our most popular demonstrations at the Stitching, Sewing & Hobbycrafts shows at the NEC, Birmingham.
Award-winning artist, Fiona Abel-Smith, shows you step-by-step using her easy formula to create a stunning rose cane with beautiful depth of colour.
Use your cane to make jewellery, cover pens, candle holders, journal covers, etc. The possibilities are limitless!
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  • Here's the link to the template used: thepolyparrot.com/great_starts.pdf

    @BritishPolymerClayGuild@BritishPolymerClayGuild6 жыл бұрын
    • I have been looking for a grid like this for Months! Thank you sooo much! Also loved all the tips and information in the entire PDF and video.

      @Naturally336@Naturally3366 жыл бұрын
    • Great tutorial but can you please speak up or add subtitles your voice is very soft. No offence.

      @gracefromglaur5488@gracefromglaur54886 жыл бұрын
    • Actually your voice volume is fine but I do suggest for the microphone to perhaps be closer to your mouth.

      @gracefromglaur5488@gracefromglaur54886 жыл бұрын
    • Love the colours and values you used! Gorgeous

      @gracefromglaur5488@gracefromglaur54886 жыл бұрын
    • Grace From Glaur This is a guest spot she's doing for the guild. On her own channel, the sound is mostly fine.

      @rusted_ursa@rusted_ursa6 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for not making this members only... I have watched this before and then started watching Susan on Turtle soup but idk now she only has members only so pfft. :) But again I am so glad your group is still up and running! I love Fiona!

    @argrover4210@argrover4210Ай бұрын
  • You took my breath away when you cut that in half. Stunning.

    @SierraGal@SierraGal5 жыл бұрын
    • thanks so much Sandra, glad you enjoyed the video :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah

      @suchetaartistry692@suchetaartistry6923 жыл бұрын
  • Fantastic demo, so easy to follow.

    @user-ph8hx2gy3c@user-ph8hx2gy3c2 ай бұрын
  • The best I've seen. Now I see how to make the outside petals so the flower looks like a rose, not a one dimensional flat thing! Thank you very much.

    @elainemcbride6517@elainemcbride65175 жыл бұрын
    • Thank Elaine :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Isn't it great when Saturday night TV is rubbish and I spend the night watching wonderful You Tube tutorials in stead :). Beautiful cane Fiona, I've watched lots of these rose cane tutorials but not tried it yet. One day LOL.

    @rosiehutchinson9333@rosiehutchinson93336 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Rosie :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Amazingly done! The rate of speed was perfect, and though you went so very quickly you thoroughly covered every detail with clarity. Thank you for the confidence you instill in others!😁

    @allisonchavez9113@allisonchavez9113 Жыл бұрын
  • Not just another rose cane. So many good tips. Great work!

    @joyceengland3947@joyceengland39476 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for your feedback Joyce. Glad you found it helpful. Do share your makes with us on our Facebook page too. facebook.com/britishpcguild

      @BritishPolymerClayGuild@BritishPolymerClayGuild6 жыл бұрын
  • Fantastic .. I litraly jumbed when you make the final step and cut the cane. I love it💖

    @lmso7682@lmso76824 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks so much Layla :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals4 жыл бұрын
  • The most realistic rose cane I’ve seen - lovely!

    @margaretmathis4775@margaretmathis47755 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks so much Margaret :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Wow! You did that so quickly! I hope to try this and it looks halfway as decent!

    @wendym1234@wendym12342 жыл бұрын
  • That was fabulous. Such a beautiful rose.

    @sueyounglove9253@sueyounglove92534 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you Sue :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals4 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent! You are a great teacher. Very clear. Very concise. Right to the point. Wish everyone made videos this easy to follow. Thanks so much.

    @user-yk1hn2zx2b@user-yk1hn2zx2b5 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks so much Nancy :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • I'm a newbie to the poly-clay scene, but this tutorial was informative, easy to follow and concise. Really well done. Thank you.

    @skeeterholmes2058@skeeterholmes20586 жыл бұрын
  • How beautiful…just beautiful! You can tell you’ve done it several times, as you are able to go so quickly! Thank you!!❤

    @grannyjclay-joannieholdhus925@grannyjclay-joannieholdhus925 Жыл бұрын
  • Brilliant tutorial Fiona!!!! I am going to call you the female version of Whispering Bob Harris of The Old Grey Whistle Test,lol. Thank you for the wonderful tutorial.

    @Karibee61@Karibee615 жыл бұрын
    • ha ha , love it, thanks Karen :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Beautiful!❤️

    @marystoddard9138@marystoddard91384 жыл бұрын
    • thank you Mary :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals4 жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely fantastic video!

    @pjshat@pjshat8 ай бұрын
  • Beautiful!

    @josi4251@josi42515 жыл бұрын
  • I really love the trick to flip the slab of clay at every passage in the PM,to avoid distorsions! Very useful! Thanks a lot!

    @devart6058@devart60586 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks, Sarah Shriver's tip for that is invaluable :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • So easy to listen to and follow, thank you!

    @glyniskane5888@glyniskane58884 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Glynis :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals4 жыл бұрын
  • I am a true beginner and really truly appreciate this video! 😁 I realize you uploaded this video several years ago, but you do not need to go fast. Hopefully everyone knows how to go to the upper right and click on those 3 vertical dots. That will then pull up several options, one of which is speed playback. It's easier to speed someone up rather than slow them down if they're speaking too fast. So perhaps for us rookies you can slow down. I almost feel your heart beating quickly as you were so worried we'd be bored. I for one appreciated ALL your tips and will continue to watch things I am grateful to learn from you!😊

    @rhondawymer6320@rhondawymer63204 жыл бұрын
    • I am so glad you enjoyed the video Rhonda, and thanks so much for your comments. :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals4 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing demo!

    @batya7@batya75 жыл бұрын
  • Beautiful can't wait to try it.

    @rexanne1000@rexanne10005 жыл бұрын
  • It's always wonderful to watch. I have made it and watched it multiple times, but a refresher is always good! Thanks again Fiona 💜😘😊

    @estherschmidt2805@estherschmidt28059 ай бұрын
  • Wow, I'm gonna try this Fiona, so pretty, thank you

    @leonanelson2444@leonanelson24445 жыл бұрын
  • Ahhh, wow, it is sooooo beautiful 😍

    @monicamartins6010@monicamartins60108 ай бұрын
  • What a great tutorial! Packed with info. Thank you!!!!

    @leannarandall@leannarandall3 жыл бұрын
  • oooooo, im loving this alot...thanks for sharing xx

    @eviejackson1969@eviejackson19696 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Evie :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Just amazing!

    @DJMeCa@DJMeCa3 жыл бұрын
  • Wonderful!!!!!

    @rosaandujo7956@rosaandujo79562 жыл бұрын
  • MARVELOUS! THANK YOU!

    @carmaspence9425@carmaspence94256 жыл бұрын
    • Glad you enjoyed it :)

      @BritishPolymerClayGuild@BritishPolymerClayGuild6 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent! Thank you!!!

    @mariapananou481@mariapananou4815 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you Maria :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Fantastic!

    @va1195@va11953 жыл бұрын
  • WIW! HOW AWESOME!

    @crystalgoffinet4168@crystalgoffinet41685 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Crystal :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Fantastic Fiona! Thank you for sharing your work with us. 💕

    @evelynsharland3030@evelynsharland3030 Жыл бұрын
  • This is just the best rose cane tutorial available. So many videos are labeled as "tutorial", but are truly more "show and tell". Not this one. I have watched this so many times and it's at the top of my saved videos...thank you so much for the lesson. You make it look so easy 😊 The end result is so lovely ❤

    @7cats2@7cats23 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks so much Sherri, that makes us so happy to hear :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals3 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing.

    @jenniferroya3606@jenniferroya36063 жыл бұрын
  • That was very cool technique!!🥰

    @lenniewatson687@lenniewatson6873 жыл бұрын
  • Wow!!!

    @anjanimedirian4537@anjanimedirian45372 жыл бұрын
  • Stunning ❤

    @nek0net@nek0net Жыл бұрын
  • Thank you, cant wait to try this!

    @squuezybiscuit@squuezybiscuit4 жыл бұрын
    • brilliant, thanks Eve :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals4 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing

    @donnatunis228@donnatunis2284 ай бұрын
  • Absolutely beautiful!

    @seahorse5689@seahorse56896 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Judy :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Great tutorial! Thanks for posting - been admiring many of the various beautiful rose canes people have posted but had no idea how to make one. Definitely going to try this!

    @annettegongora156@annettegongora1565 жыл бұрын
    • Oh and the template for the grid is awesome! Have it already saved and printed out!

      @annettegongora156@annettegongora1565 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you Annette, so glad it was of help :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Beautiful! Thank you!!

    @deborahhoch2662@deborahhoch26625 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Deborah :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • As John Watson would say to Sherlock Holmes, "That was amazing. Absolutely brilliant." :) Thank you so much! I will make this as soon as possible. Your clear and concise instructions give me confidence that I most definitely can!

    @polablues@polablues6 жыл бұрын
    • You definitely can, and I hope you did? thanks Pola :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Woooo gorgeous realistic tiger 🐅 Pendant!!!!

    @gracefromglaur5488@gracefromglaur54886 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Grace :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you so much for this amazing tutorial!! I'm definitely going to try this!!

    @susancampbell3101@susancampbell31015 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you Susan :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Beautiful! Wow! I'm gonna try this as soon as I'm a bit free!!

    @Jeea84@Jeea844 ай бұрын
  • Nice work! Great tutorial!

    @Monalisacat37@Monalisacat376 ай бұрын
  • Thank you so much! This really helped me! Ive tried it and it works like a charm

    @showgirllie@showgirllie5 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you my first Rose cane. You video was very helpful!

    @rhondasquires7770@rhondasquires77704 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you Rhonda :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals4 жыл бұрын
  • Beautiful art

    @punjabpainting2002@punjabpainting20025 жыл бұрын
  • I love it thank you!! Beautiful!!!

    @veronicabodartgonzalez203@veronicabodartgonzalez2034 жыл бұрын
    • thanks so much Veronica :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals4 жыл бұрын
  • Beautiful job! Very clearly explained. TY!

    @nancypingreehoover@nancypingreehoover6 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Your link to the template is very helpful! Thank you

    @dq711@dq7115 жыл бұрын
  • Love this! Beautiful

    @suzlundberg@suzlundberg4 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks so much Suzanne :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals4 жыл бұрын
  • Wow, that is beautiful.

    @lindysmith13@lindysmith135 жыл бұрын
    • thank you Linda :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • You are very good teacher, thanks! :-)

    @malunicolette9447@malunicolette94476 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you Malu :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • So beautiful

    @bevmitchell2821@bevmitchell28217 ай бұрын
  • I’m glad I found this, for the tutorial but also I thought something was wrong with my pasta machine but it’s nice to know it’s not just mine that’s slightly off

    @tl33@tl332 жыл бұрын
  • so so so pretty!

    @uh_-uz2lh@uh_-uz2lh5 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Great work and so nicely done! Loved your accent and tone of voice. Greetings from Chile 🇨🇱!

    @andreaeyzaguirre6208@andreaeyzaguirre62085 жыл бұрын
  • Magnificent and very inspiring

    @elyanebrightlight8764@elyanebrightlight87642 жыл бұрын
  • No matter what skinner blend you use for the plugs, you end up with a great result so long as there is a darker and lighter side. I recommend using a skinner blend for your wrap around the plug, so that you can progress from a lighter border on the inside to darker on the outside or vice versa.

    @828burke@828burke5 жыл бұрын
    • yes you are right, and there are so many more improvements that can be made too, this was just a simple demo, nice and quick to show a basic rose cane. Thanks so much for your helpful comments :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for your lovely videos!

      @828burke@828burke5 жыл бұрын
  • This was WONDERFUL.... thank you so much

    @sammyjocatlady7551@sammyjocatlady75515 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Wow I'm new to polymer clay and I've wanted to do a cane but being new it seemed complicated but watching you had given me the confidence to do one and I absolutely love roses so thank you so so much

    @lindamurphy9821@lindamurphy9821 Жыл бұрын
  • Thank you, so beautiful.

    @SoPrettyClayEarrings@SoPrettyClayEarrings10 ай бұрын
  • That's so lovely and you've given us such an easy formula, thank you.

    @valhadfield6563@valhadfield65636 жыл бұрын
    • Glad you found it helpful. Do share your makes with us at our Facebook page facebook.com/britishpcguild

      @BritishPolymerClayGuild@BritishPolymerClayGuild6 жыл бұрын
  • This was beautiful thank you for your hard work ❤️

    @worldwonderland5900@worldwonderland59005 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you Veronica :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing and beautiful!!

    @viviankirkham1677@viviankirkham16775 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you Vivian :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Ready for the next video 😀

    @violetbee2857@violetbee28576 жыл бұрын
    • Coming soon!

      @BritishPolymerClayGuild@BritishPolymerClayGuild6 жыл бұрын
  • The best ever tutorial ty so much

    @EsteeDarla@EsteeDarla6 жыл бұрын
    • thank you :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing thank you for a very informative tutorial. I am going to try this today

    @christinefurminger6027@christinefurminger60273 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you so much

    @verabajirova5154@verabajirova51545 жыл бұрын
  • Wow I haven’t seen it done that way. Love it

    @Sweetp45@Sweetp455 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Margie :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • I enjoyed your technique, thank you.

    @MegaPraiseHim@MegaPraiseHim6 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • WOW Simpler than I thought it was so intimidating before thank you

    @booth284@booth2845 жыл бұрын
  • ♥️ it’s beautiful and simple I love your technique ♥️ Thank you for your lesson 😀

    @cecesantillano9551@cecesantillano95512 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you, you make it look so easy and simple.

    @Lyn4817@Lyn48176 жыл бұрын
    • thanks Lyn :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Prettiest rose cane I’ve ever seen....thank you for such clear instructions! Blessings from WV

    @pennyventurino5937@pennyventurino59375 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you Penny :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • What an informative and well-presented demo, Fiona. I am so excited to try roses soon, now that I have a great "formula." Thanks so much!!

    @eileengavinlarsen4509@eileengavinlarsen45095 жыл бұрын
    • thanks Eileen, so glad to have been of help :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing. It turned out so pretty and you make it look so easy. I have to try this today. Thank you for sharing the tutorial.

    @melindad.4154@melindad.41546 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Melinda :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Bravo 👏🏽 j’adore 👌🏽🤗

    @ohlacoquette@ohlacoquette4 жыл бұрын
    • merci beaucoup :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals4 жыл бұрын
  • Neat table cloth!

    @jaelthorp2314@jaelthorp23146 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Jael! It's a plastic wipe-clean table cloth. I think it was from Aldi.

      @BritishPolymerClayGuild@BritishPolymerClayGuild6 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you so much. Thousand thanks. I did everything. As you showed, and I did it. God bless you. Thank you. Thank you.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    @tamaraeidsvik8307@tamaraeidsvik83075 жыл бұрын
    • I am so happy it worked for you, you have made my day, happy claying :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Very beautiful... loved it. I have always been amazed at how beautiful these canes come out. I must give them a try. Thanks for sharing.

    @Virgi107@Virgi1075 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you Virginia :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you so much, Fiona! I’m just getting into polymer clay and have watched so many videos. This one is definitely my favourite. Cannot wait to try it. Fingers crossed!

    @Moioiseaurare@Moioiseaurare5 жыл бұрын
    • You are very welcome, and I hope it comes out well for you, I am sure it will :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks so very much about the ‘flipping’ the blend to maintain the rectangle. First I have heard of that. Well done, thanks again.

    @jchestand4122@jchestand41225 жыл бұрын
    • thank you :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Wow THAT was so much simpler and faster than the video I watched just before yours! Beautiful! Thank you for the tutorial!! ❤️😸

    @crystalcorbin1232@crystalcorbin12322 жыл бұрын
  • Fiona this is a fabulous tutorial! Thank you so much for sharing. I would like to do this with yellow for my Sister. Her favourite rose! ❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰🥰😍😍😍🤩🤩🤩🤩

    @donnaleelittle9664@donnaleelittle96644 жыл бұрын
  • Superbe cane et superbe video...j adore .....Merci ....thank you Very much!!!!!

    @veroniquecoursan6597@veroniquecoursan65974 жыл бұрын
    • Merci beaucoup Veronique :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals4 жыл бұрын
  • thanks so much

    @debbeechy@debbeechy6 жыл бұрын
    • thank you :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • Wonderful tutorial!! Thank you so much for sharing your creativity. The rose is beautiful :)

    @1sidbear@1sidbear5 жыл бұрын
    • thank you Trisha :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • At last I was like wow.... Best cane tutorial...u explained everything so nicely❤❤

    @suchetaartistry692@suchetaartistry6923 жыл бұрын
  • Love this tutorial. I'm just wondering if this cain can be reduced down. I don't think it was mentioned. Im new to polymer clay so still getting my head around it. Thank you

    @annauk29@annauk295 жыл бұрын
  • It pretty cool! I have made gumpast flower. You just basically did what I did to build the rose.

    @koolklay2019@koolklay20193 жыл бұрын
  • I heard you perfectly, I have good speakers I guess. LOL. Love all your videos, your a great teacher. I have been having trouble learning from other polymer videos. So glad I found you. I have watched 4 so far. I will be actually watching this one and doing it with you tomorrow. After I have another run through. :DAlso great accent.

    @theresadaigle6588@theresadaigle65885 жыл бұрын
    • thanks so much Teresa, I am so glad you could hear it okay, and that you will be giving it a go, I love doing the rose cane, and hope you will too :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
  • This is the best one I have seen so far. Very concise and you get to it a heck of a lot faster. Some tuts do not cut the logs first and squeeze the diamonds the whole length then cut. By cutting them first it is harder to skew the squeeze as you go down, which can be a pain. Great Tut! I will subscribe!

    @milady3d@milady3d5 жыл бұрын
    • So glad it was helpful, thank you :)

      @FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals@FionaAbelSmithPolyOriginals5 жыл бұрын
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