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00:00 intro yippee
02:35 Chapter 1: SUBTICK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
07:05 Chapter 2: CS2 is just worse CSGO
12:01 Chapter 3: valve hates poor people (probably)
14:19 Chapter 4: CS2 Positives feat. @PhyFPS
18:12 Chapter 5: VAC Live & Cheaters
21:19 IS CS2 DYING?
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JUST SO YOU KNOW: I believe that things are *not* just black and white. This video covers the more objective problems with the game however I don't think CS2 is "dying" and I do think it's gonna be totally fine within a few months. You are also allowed to acknowledge that the game has many flaws without hating everything about it. Valve developers are just people too afterall and I'm sure they're doing what they can. You should watch "What Everyone's Getting Wrong About CS2" to get my honest personal opinion about the game! Although this video is fairly negative that is how I purposely made it to sound more dramatic, the other video shines a more hopeful light on the game that I think you'd appreciate more if you didn't like the negativity in this one.
Why take clips that are sometimes 1-2 months old, where many problems people talk about are already addressed? Valve do a shit ton of work on CS2 right now, the process they are doing is pretty much exactly the same as for csgo.
yeah it has flaws. but I always have to laugh at the cs 2 is bad cs 2 is dying comments. If people would remember the changes from 1.5 to 1.6, to from servers to steam as a platform, and to source as a game...the cs2 flaws are nothing in comparison, and gamers sadly have the tendency to be Karens and overreact. just my 2 cents.
CS2 is "dying" stop the copium
@@gudtimes6363 people from 1.5 to 1.6 is not valid my guy in 2023.... just like inflation.. people get poorer CS2 is DEAD. Sorry to burst your bubble. 1800-COPIUM
@@LeeFallI literally said “I DON’T THINK CS2 IS DYING” u dork
They literally removed a finished game to replace it with a beta
just like overwatch
@@googoofeesmithersmits4536 but somehow it was worse i though they wouldnt make the same mistake as blizzard but it turns out valve are even more stupid for following bad ideas
7000 hours in cs. and I JUST DONT GET IT HOW CAN THEY DONE SUCH A BAD JOB ON CS2. Valve you have a complete game, yeah there are some bugs, but cant you put some effort in to making the new game? Dont get me started on the fking sound and smoke
@@georgegorvaniagerge7077 Overwatch core gameplay is still there and hasn't really changed. Obviously its 5v5 now but at least its sequel didn't break the game to the point where its unplayable for a lot of people.
That is how sequels work ngl
CS is over 20 years old and people are calling it dead game ten weeks into the new version lol. Give it 12-24 months then we can review the game properly.
24 months 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@matthighlightsSee Csgo Release 😉
@@schwimm33 exactly! if you wanna wait another 2 years 🤣
Not waiting 2 years for arms race. G Stfu
@@madeanaccounttospillthebor9568 Don't you have something else to do while you wait? Csgo isn't everything.
My personal issue with CS2 is the removal of content. Achievements, Danger Zone & fun other modes was my “forget this” realization.
same here. it's also visible that the workshop part of the community has already left since almost if not all maps available are 1v1, aim training or such. not a single one with actual effort/content like the adventure maps or actual CS maps to play onto. There are a few hide n seek maps but like... not that many. CS2 feels like a triple A release of a beloved game: all in the graphics, neglect everything else, cut all the stuff that made the original "good".
removing achievements was a good decision, as a hood handful of them were bugged and impossible to get unless you downgraded your version of CSGO.
@@xehP they could have just removed a few of them tbf but achievements dont really matter at all
My personal issue with CS2 is the fact that it's trash lol.
achievements should be optional extra content and always possible to turn off, before you even got a single one, it is good its not there for cs2 IMO
12:38 literally me, gets a job -> buys a better pc to run cs2 (bought a 144hz monitor a month later too) -> plays singleplayer games instead
CS2 sucks so you aren't missing much.
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@@JohnDoe-cq9no clueless
Bro same haha I've got a gaming laptop that I was scrunched in front of so I got a 144hz 1440p monitor and new mouse and keyboard just for cs2. Now I play quake and helldivers
My as well, the only people good at cs don't have jobs
People thought CSGO was the shit sequel and look where that game got us after a few years.
22:22
@@theletterkeiyeah exactly brother you know how this shit works
its 2023 and they release an unfinished game pls stfu
"after few years" lmao
it still is the shit sequel
Valve always pulls through, I don't think it'll "die" but I do think Valve pushed CS2 out too fast. They should've still kept CSGO as CSGO while they still have the CS2 beta, and let people in waves like they where doing. It was too rushed and I think if they continued to keep CSGO and CS2 as two different games until they knew the game was ready to be merged it would've been a better outcome.
trust me it will die this is the end
@@virus4721 How is it the end everything is fixable the game is good there are just things that should've been fixed before release and pretty much all the issues it has can and will be fixed and people will come back there's to much money invested for this to die.
@@virus4721 Just a wrong take, its averaging 1.2 million peak players this last month. Valve will fix the game like they did with csgo when it released (because CSGO sucked at launch).
@@virus4721have you played csgo when it launched? It was WAY worse than cs2 currently is. Everything is fixable.
Well said
Knowing Valve. Everything dies at "2."
As bad as CS2 is it probably will.
Counter-Strike: Alyx
team fortress: alyx
"Oh! A new csgo update! i can't wait to see what they added!" *laptop proceeds to explode upon launch*
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no more potato friendly CS. My friend opened up cs2 and played for a few minutes on 30 fps and that's it. Never seen him play again. It's good in a way that we kind of moved on and found other stuff to do in life.
my 10 year old pc ran csgo perfectly with over 200 minimum fps on any map. in cs2 any map with any amount of water on it (which is all of them except d2 and mirage, unless you want to play vertigo lmao) tanks my fps completely and makes the game unplayable at any decent level.
my 2000$ pc from few years back could run csgo perfectly smooth. Now I can barely even enjoy the game because it feels so stuttery.
Turns out their player base is poor and plays potato pcs. Oh wow I wonder why they cant upgrade. Maybe it's because an average trip to the grocery store costs a graphics drive just to get 20 items. 300 dollers btw.
@@fear_the_smile961 Ever heard about this word called Priorities?? Besides, we've got ourselves new motorcycles. Bike trip with the bros over cs any day.
@@fear_the_smile961 or maybe because i dont want to buy a new pc for 3000 euro to get an acceptable framerate in cs2 when i didnt even ask for it and was perfectly happy playing csgo on my old potato with 200 minimum fps
Honestly, the biggest issues are the rating system being broken (literal silvers in 15k elo) and the lack of proper anti cheat (I check my demos for demo review to spot my mistakes, but it’s also exposed a lot of cheaters in my matches)
Yea I haven't been playing but came back played 1 game and I'm 15 elo lol I'm ass rn might asleep be silver
I think its because all the elite players are a lot older now and they dont log on everyday like other competitive games. But cs go elo still tries to reward consistency so the player base becomes more profitable
@@theredgoblin562 csgo actually punished activity in terms of elo gain.
I played a game with my friends last week, we were 4 queueing and our random was 18k. We all dropped 20+ and I think this dude dropped like 7 kills. The whole game he was looking at the floor and dying for free. If I had to guess this dude was probably GN4 at the most in CSGO meanwhile my whole friend group is Global/Faceit 10 players. There needs to be a cap for the ranks that people can can get placed into.
You realize that ratings are supposed to settle in over time right..?
Fantastic video man. The quality of everything, the clips, the editing style, the mic, the pace... good stuff. Very informative and watchable. You're gonna have a lot of subs if you continue! Subbed. Good luck!
I think I agree with pretty much everything you said. I think I just miss the other more varied gamemodes a little more than you do. Also, I miss all the achievements I lost, because I spent a fair amount effort going after all of them to proudly display it on my steam user page, and now it's just gone, replaced with one achievement. So that's something I'm slightly annoyed at too.
You think when people see the achievements they will be impressed xDD nobody cares bot nerd
@@zytla1337 settle down little bro
@zytla1337 usually yeah, they are
@@zytla1337 If I saw someone grinding all the archivements I would respect that. They are not that hard to get but it requires effort, patience and a willingness to grind. Same as WoW or anything other grindy and I can respect that.
I miss the fact that CSGO wasn't a giant piece of s*** the most.
If they just got rid of the cheaters most other problems would seem minimal. Its only getting more rampant as time goes on. First time in years ive stepped away from cs.
I quit because of it. It's just sad that other people don't agree with me i believe more than 40% of the players are cheating and other people have said to me that i'm crazy and i don't know anything. Trust me, a cheater that cheats will never let you know they're cheating. They try to disguise by dying when being spectated and other stuff. Its so sad.
@user-hf5ww1jg7t something you are forgetting, getting into elo hell in prime is absurd.. getting 100+ for a win -400 points for a lose is disgusting (nobody in the fk world knows how the hell those are calculated) , not forgetting valve do shit not just cheaters but the people who afk, i mean, if you have 3000 hs in the game wouldn't affect i guess, could carry, but for begginers or people getting back is just cancer..
@@kishi8774 ?? Everyone knows how it works. Its MMR / ELO. Go look up glicko 2
I doubt they can solve the extra peekers advantage situation.
@@suntzu6122 peakers advantage is sorta a non-issue, its more that there is frame latency and packet loss all over so you dont know that someone has peaked you until its too late. the game on LAN feels a hell of a lot better
The reason why Valve didn't just allow CSGO to coexist with CS2 was because they wanted to prevent the CS playerbase to split up into two camps. The same thing happened with CZ and with CSGO and CS Source... Says a lot about them. Instead of making CS2 a much more viable choice they instead decided to kill their old game, so everybody was forced to go to CS2...
Makes sense in a community and business perspective But it's no excuse for Valve to release a half baked game.
why not just add 128 tick no?
@counterstrike2isdead money
Your point doesn't really make sense when CSGO itself already has their own merged communities. You have the surfers/bhoppers, skin freaks, pros, and casuals. I think they should've stayed with what they where doing. I love Valve as a gaming corporation because of the choices they make and the amount of amazing gaming titles they've created, It's unheard of for Valve to be a "rushing" Dev team. They're usually known for setting a realistic end date but not a "rushed" end date. CSGO won't die, but I do think Valve made a bad decision. I'm not saying it's easy being a dev and making every good decision but at least you know Valve listens to their communities unlike other gaming corporations.
who tf liked cz 💀
I absolutely believe they should have let it cook for longer Even if they are going for the long long LONG haul I still think they needed more time
7:59 I am brand new to counter strike and have never played it except for when CS2 released. I quickly fell in love with the wingman mode since I just had one friend show me the game, except there's only like four wingman maps. I stopped playing after maybe a week because grinding out competitive mode to unlock premiere just didn't seem worth it. people are simply too good at this game for me to find competitive mode fun
The game is not for you if you don’t want to play the game to unlock features. Don’t blame the playerbase for you not liking it, blame yourself.
@@vainsmemery8068 huh? the whole point is that grinding out competitive to only then play what is essentially competitive mode again just isn't worth it with how little there is for the game to offer. premiere mode really doesn't unlock much, except for more cheaters ig
>competetive >fun choose one.
@@AveryChow competitive and premier is fun, like I said the game isn’t for you since the game modes are a chore
@@Ilikewater-andice you can literally do both
"Late is just for a little while. Suck is forever." it feels a bit silly that valve comes out with a great documentary about how much effort and time went into half life one, and then they undercook the release of cs2 and end up missing a ton of stuff.
sub tick needed feedback, so it was reasonable. problem is: there's no content and people are cheating because there's no actual punishment for it
I hope some new update adds whats missing, the only time i played cs:go was in an xbox....i hated it so much that the next time i tried any cs game was in cs2
saying this quote in the context of cs2 is sooo unserious lmfaooo a bumpy launch was inevitable and valve still needs that community wide feedback to improve the game edit: the reason this quote isnt applicable to cs2 is because. the suck is literally not forever. like. they patched some of the suck out already. compare 2012 csgo with 2022 csgo. they got rid of most of the suck. the release version of csgo was wayy waaayy worse than the release version of cs2. not to mention the fact that in the documentary gaben was referring to critical game design for a singleplayer campaign that has a story, not a multiplayer online shooter.
@@alika3651 they could still get the feedback from the game while its in beta, the anticheat would be massively improved if they actually had overwatch, which is how they make sure the anticheat is ""up to date"" no overwatch + a lack of content and a ton of pretty serious bugs has made this game feel unfinished imo
i think it should still have been "in beta" for a little longer
My hope when CS2 was announced was pretty simple. 1. 128 tick across the board 2. All the existing maps ported over 3. That's it. Roll out the game and go from there.
None of that was done
I think we can all agree that we never asked for a new tick system, right? Only a higher tickrate.
valve no want spend 2x money on servers@@kingeling
@@kingeling they cant do a higher tickrate because it would be literally double the server costs... subtick is the best of both worlds.
@@blocksource4192 There are far more problems caused by subtick, it's clearly inferior to 64 tick. They should either give 128 or remain with 64.
I am done playing cs2. Thanks for nothing valve.
9:57 note: You can't be kicked if you're queued in a team of 4 premades if I remember correctly, they introduced it like over a month ago or something..so that's at least a bit of relief. Correct me if I'm wrong!
You’re right, but you can still get kicked by a 3stack if the random feels like it lmfao. ALSO: I got into a game where I 4 stacked and our random was cheating, so we couldn’t kick him 😭😭
@@theletterkei the simple solution for this is to not allow 4 stack. find a 5th or play with 3. 4 stack 90% of the time just starts bullying me if i solo queue, which is funny because theyre little kids trying to bully a 30 year old man and i just call them some creative insults. but then they generally kick me in the last couple rounds after i carry them to victory. 4 stack always has this result in every 5v5 game, thats why a lot of games dont allow it.
i honestly think we have to just wait long enough until they fix the game
not worth the wait to play csgo 1.1 it is the same game just worse... WAKE TF up people
Just like every other time
@@LeeFallyou would 100% have said the same thing about CSGO when it came out, so please stop being dumb.
How long will it take? Csgo didn’t get a proper anti-cheat in 10 years. Why would this be any different? On top of that all the constant bugs. I’ll tell you, it will be a long wait.
no one will wait 2 years to valve fix the game trust me for one year cs will lose probably 600-700k players and from that point you can say goodbye to cs and whole franchise because guess what? valve is greedy bastar company who deserve to lose all their money
This guy CS's.
holy fricken crap lois team liquid csgo commented on my youtube channel !
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@@theletterkei real
The frustration for me is definitiely this, "Fuck you, you can't play the old one anymore." That is being adopted by game companies, same as OW2.
I dropped the game when cs2 dropped, it really sucks because I loved csgo a lot. I dont want to play cs2, I just want to play csgo again with all the fun modes, maps and quirks of it. I just love the graphics way more than the current over saturated look. Im honeatly quite upset that they straight ran over cago by completely wiping it off the store and removing all my achievements.
In my first game of CS ever (10v10) there was a cheater. Another guy was constantly riffing on him, trying to make him leave. It was awful :D
Non prime casual be like
you say the second part like its bad lol i bm cheaters ever chance i get fuck them
@@pieathart prime casual has more cheaters lmao, cheaters are most of the people who pay for prime on a new acc and then have to play a few games of casual to unlock competitive
@@pieathart Prime is exactly the same thing, stop pretending lol.
Me personaly I think cs2 is pretty good rn i just hate the premier matchmaking and the cheating problem
Yes same
because you have 300hrs of game
@@virus4721 i've been playing csgo since 2016. Cs2 is in a pretty solid state rn. Yes they have many things to polish but its much better than it was on launch
@@virus4721 i have 6k hrs, 22000 elo global since 2015, esea b+
@@virus4721300 hours is a lot buddy.
The only problem I have with CS2 is that the game freezes in almost every competitive game, usually multiple times per match. I need to kill cs2.exe in task manager and re-enter the match. The support ignores my problem ever since it launched in september 🤣. Since I can't play cs2 properly I've been playing a lot of valorant.
Don't know if this will help with your problem, but it solved mine. I had launch options set on Steam, but that ended up making my game freeze constantly. I removed all launch options and set the game to fullscreen, not windowed. Hasn't frozen since.
Yep game is seriously broken.
@@leonels8605 Me too!
Sucks for you, never had that happen to me. Do you have like 15 year old windows install? Did you reinstall and verify integrity of cs2 game files? Tried to install it on a different hard drive?
I had that too but it stopped happening recently.
personally i have shifted my gaming to playing all the games i missed out on over the years playinig csgo and sweating buckets. there are some fun games out there... i never knew
semi competitively the game is really fun even with the cut content and the bugs, but above 10-15k in premiere is a nightmare, it's cheaters every 4 or 5 games and ive had my rank taken away multiple times because the servers went down during a match
im 18k and havent played a cheater yet
16 and same, really good trust factor since early csgo@@dayne6475
So it's just Regular CSGO, then. Stop whining
@@HafifSyukra I'm not lol, the game is fun
@@dayne6475 yah I mean it's different for everyone \_(-_-)_/ at least it's better than go
Its really annoying that cs2 servers show up in the csgo server browser, they killed community servers and plugins in general and its sad to see so many fun modes and competitive movement modes sitting in limbo, waiting for an update that isn't really coming (though I think surf is already back but with a lot of ramp bugs)
you are just a another silver
@@buzzikea what.
@@chmilk1 nothing, just hanging around
How does it still not have all the maps and modes from GO? What are they doing?
my dad had to go back to CS:Source because his pc cant even run CS2, the performance is horrendeous and he cant even play the only game he played anymore
nice to see ur vids popping off kei, keep it up
People always have the right to be upset, but what does getting upset do? Nothing. Just stop playing, eventually Valve will fix it, they're a smart company, and if you stop playing they'll take notice.
give this man a true
Chapter 6: it looks like valorant
Your editing style is really good at holding attention, good job, was surprised to see that you don't have that many subs, you should have way more. EDIT: Oh you were a content creator for liquid, makes sense hehe
i am flattered but my content is far better now than it was while i was on liquid (otherwise they might've kept me LOL), still really appreciate it :D
do you guys think if CSGO was never removed lebron still be averaging more points than jayson tatum this season or do you think he would be too busy queuing it up with the boys late night style?
I'd be happy with CS2 if i could goddamn play it (packet loss) (I'm depressed)
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Never thought id be able to relate to such a vile creature as a Overwatch fan in sequel delivery
Overwatch 2 is fire
Wow when he spoke about the trash setups and I felt like damn this is exactly my situation and it’s pretty fucked. Wish I could just play go again.
You aren't missing much, even people with good PC's (including pros) wish they could play CSGO again. CS2 is bad.
Interesting video, hadn't thought of some of those factors before. Small point on the standalone CS:GO skin transfer concern: doesn't a fix for this already exist? Portal 2 knows your Team Fortress 2 inventory and lets you use certain hats in the co-op multiplayer mode if they are present in your TF2 backpack. Those are also both Valve games obviously. Why couldn't they implement the same thing again? Sure, there could be a little confusion but in the end I don't see why it wouldn't work.
I still have hope. Csgo was terrible at launch, but yeah it's awful right now. I really think that the player base declining is the people that jumped on the CS2 hype. Not the actual player base of csgo. We are still waiting for the fix.
absolutely, I wanted to make it clear at the end that not all my opinions changed from last video. I just wanted this one to be more informative about the issues I didn't cover :)
@@theletterkei Yeah you are really making some good content. I really like your other video too. You are doing good research, and you are not just saying cs is bad. That's what I hate about the cs content these days. Much love dude and keep it up!
Csgo was terrible at launch but didn't replace cs source.
The people leaving are the actual player base of CSGO. Most of my friends list stopped playing and when I invite they just say CS2 is bad. They're right. 🤷
A small but objective downside of cs2 is also the removal of crosshairs. Csgo had the "default" crosshair (not the green one, but the translucent one), yet its nowhere to be seen in cs2. : ((
you mean style 1 and 0? yeah I used those a lot but can't anymore :(
@@theletterkei yea :((
what dpi and sense do you use. you hittin them flicks though
2.47 at 500dpi, I gotta start putting that shit in the description of the cs2 videos 😭
Thanks for talking about these issues before cs2 I never played cs before but I have played other valve games such as portal and hl and when I tried cs2 my beginner lobby’s had smurfs left and right cheaters everywhere and it’s hard to get better as a new player when all of the lobby’s are like that
yeah this is not a game you want to get into as a beginner. i have 8000 hours and im not even having fun anymore
your better off buying csgo prime for 10 USD since you have close to no cheaters whatsoever and less smurfs since it is 10 USD to get prime server queue
@@ricktheweeb5382😂 Prime accounts cost $3 on Russian sites most cheaters are literally playing prime.
You have pretty solid points, the part I think it is so funny to see is how shroud said that, and after that he said he was trolling and people would get the clip and say "look what shroud said". I agree with everything you said, and how people are over reacting over problems that is not a problem itself, personally, I stopped playing CS2 just because I got tired of the game after 15k hours, just other releases got my attention and that is pretty much it for myself. This game probably will be really good around second half of 2024, and it is Valve and CS at the end of the day, if they lose players, they get a bunch new as well, and if they make the game good, people come back, Valve undercooked a lot this game.
I'm glad someone knows that shroud was memeing in the clip you have no idea how many comments I am getting about "using shroud in the intro so my points are invalidated"
Ain't no way this world has come full circle how come I've watched you on twitch completely unrelated you were playing chess and now I get u in my recommended randomly. good vidio
I think the biggest thing that made me lose some hope is their refusal to allow Faceit to run 128 tick servers. Forcing us to have a worse experience because they're too cheap to pay for servers that Faceit and Riot could somehow afford just fine, despite having significantly more income/player than those companies is embarrassing. Anyone who tried Faceit at that point would tell you it was night and day between 64 tick subtick; profits decided we should have a shit game over them paying moderate amounts of money for servers in a game where they make hundreds of millions.
yeah, an absolute joke
The biggest issue for me is the fact that CS2 is literally worse than the version of CS that released in 2003. That is CRAZY lol.
Addresses all the issues I'd faced recently booting up my gaming over CS, I guess it will get mature soon with time. I hope thay they decide to bring it for the Mac as well that system have got potential to play this game.
I will say cs2 already fixed some of the things hurting people with worse computers. My computer is ok but I have 16 gb ram, and cs2 for awhile was taking up my entire ram and crashing a lot, after the last update my ram stick is no longer struggling so hard. So im glad I dont gotta update yet. Its still more system intensive than csgo though
Is your ram dual channel or single channel (1 stick or 2 stick)?
I have 8gb ram in my old pc and also had a lot of crashing before but not so much now. But I can still only play a few maps because any map with some water on it competely destroys my framerate. Volvo pls.
For me as a casual player the game feels fine. Sure, there is stuff missing from it and you mostly die by being peeked, but when I play competetive with my friends, I feel like I'm actually back in CS:GO, the new lighting system is a bit distracting, but I can live with it. Valve defo should adjust the contrast a bit and reduce the shine of some skins imo. Movement also feels good, if a tiny bit easier than CS:GO. A big problem I have with CS2 is certain people just gobbling on Valve's member, saying the game is "ready" and "much better than CS:GO". Okay bro, if you mean tons of missing content and even more cheaters, then yeah, it is better than CS:GO already lol
you can change your monitor gamma in console to adjust the shiny stuff. i set mine to 3 and now it looks pretty much similar to csgo with some better colors
my biggest problem is that the movement feels off and I cant hit bunnyhops like in csgo but otherwise I think its good enough
I honestly think the problem is much of the gaming industry and people who play video games are so burned out by it and ever since fortnite absolutely mopped the floor with literally every record breaking game in the world, every other multiplayer game has tried to replicate that to a certain degree in the pursuit of greed and have failed miserably in every other quality aspect.
the feel of the game is just off the tracers dont come out the same place it used to be by your eye so it was easy to control. swiping around like clearing angles feels off like the swipe isnt on a proper rotation you really feel this when you swipe back and forth diaginally. flicking and shooting the awp feels like valorant where the shot has a delay. this is just my experince so far and ive been playing 130 hours every two weeks since cs2 came out. i may be wrong but this is just my opinion
Valorant 2. Only Silvers like it, even the pros think it is bad lol.
Wow, they say lightning never hits the same spot twice, but your videos never fail to strike the same level of greatness every time, another great video. (P.S. I’m pretty sure you meant to say “legacy_csgo” when talking about still being able to play CS:GO, you said demo_viewer, which are 2 different things)
I really appreciate the kind words! But you're right, I wrote that part of the script when the only way to play CSGO was through the demo viewer version and I forgot to add the disclaimer D:
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My fav part of the sub tick issue is that it’s also a thing for both valorant and overwatch (for shooting only though), but they actually do it directly through input systems, meaning it’s actually MORE accurate than CS2’s, which only applies updates on render frames. So, like, yeah, subtick “sucks”, but every time a CS player mentions it, you know their ass is probably talking abt something wholly unrelated lmao
Man, I remember when I used to play CSGO and I used to be good not competitive good but decent and when I heard CS2 was announcing I waited for CS2 instead of playing CSGO which was a huge mistake
if you think about it a decade year of hard work of csgo is deleted just to do another decade of hard work. Why start it over again when every aspect and detail of csgo is just perfected and what makes it the best game.
its an engine port
I think you meant to say every aspect of 1.6 was perfect and then was undone by an inferior newer version
@@stevenmedge3479 your dyslexic cant read? im talking about csgo not 1.6, Second you say the "inferior newer Game", yeah the "inferior newer game" with game breaking bugs. Oh yeah the "inferior newer game" missing features from csgo like the left hand view model and weapon bob commands, maps and gamemodes that arent in cs2. Yeah totally dude, the "inferior newer game" that has a new innovated buy menu that is a shitty valorant copy, adding on with a new loadout system where you get to choose your loadout system but cant use all the guns you want, so you have to change it. Why not just put all the guns in the same buy menu so games arent that boring. The "inferior newer game" that people with low end hardware cant even run the game easily like csgo. The "inferior newer game" with a shitty match making system which is premier full of cheaters and broken win/loss ratio ranking system. Yeah totally more inferior than csgo, not like people ever complain about the game due to their own issues and experience with it. The "newer inferior game" that has a issue of skins looking like shit in the new source 2 lighting because of useless updates thye have been doing. Only "inferior" thing that cs2 probably offered was the new source 2 lighting and map remakes, yeah sure it looks better as an upgrade but what about gameplay wise?
@@stevenmedge3479 yeah dont mind me typing a whole paragraph just to prove your weird "inferior newer version" arguement on things that are wrong with this game. If you compare csgo with cs 1.6 its literally has the same aspects, only diffrence is csgo with a newer modern look to match with the times and newer ui and interface.
saying every aspect and detail of csgo is perfected is the wildest cope ive ever heard. We just forgetting about one way smokes, util like smokes clipping through the floor, silencers and awp barrels being seen through walls, the bug where the game literally mistakes you as being on the opposite team so your mini-map shows you the enemies position instead of your teams, crouch jump for info bug, HE grenades exploding in smoke giving you perfect silhouettes in the smoke. The list goes on. 2 may not be perfect atm, but i wouldn't trade QOL updates like being able to sell back guns/util/armor for anything.
Subtick, in theory, is great, but a hardcoded tickrate of 64 with subtick isn't. Players have already proven that they can feel a difference between 64tick and 128tick in cs2, what did valve do in response? They hardcoded 64tick. 4:26, btw I love how blatant of a lie from valve this is, subtick uses your fps for each 'subtick' so having a better pc in cs2 directly affects your latency, aiming, shooting and movement, unlike cs:go and valorant, where everyone is limited to 64/128 updates/second, which makes the game competitive and fair imho. A solution to this, would be implementing the system that overwatch uses, high precision mouse input, but nah, valve needs to have their own naive solution that is supposed to be 'competitive' while it's literally the opposite, and while better solutions already exist. 5:21 and 6:27 outdated info. Chapter2 is on point, I agree with everything you said there. I'm 11k hours and only 7k elo (getting queued against 21k elo stacks each match anyway, cuz cs2 mm...), literally can't be bothered to play this game since it released, beta was fire, but we all expected valve to fix the game before release, aka. valve time. Chapter5. 20:50 in particular. VAC should have kernel access, at least it should be a requirement for premier and higher ranks of mm. Valve is focusing on the completely wrong thing when it comes to their anticheat. The AI component is meaningless, when the AI is trained on thousands of cheaters marked as 'legit' players, because they couldn't properly detect them in the first place. If they only used training data from banned players, this doesn't change the fact that the AI doesn't know which players were using an aimbot, which were using a wallhack, and who was using just a skinchanger, and even then, to what extent, in which rounds were those features used? Many people toggle harder only after they have started losing rounds. Plus overwatch has been botted for years, so a lot of that data is junk, and how are they supposed to apply that data (AI trained on 16 tick overwatch demos) to subtick based cs2, the data doesn't translate at all, it's all junk. Who cares about cheaters using AI aimbots or hardware cheats, when valve isn't banning the easiest method of cheating in the first place (software)? Plus cheating using hardware, isn't as fun, it's hard to setup, and it often requires expensive investments like getting a driver signed, getting special hardware designed for reading memory over pcie, etc. It's much less prevalent, and pretty much reserved for people who are invested into the cheating scene, and mostly as 'proof of concept' projects, rather than actual thing someone would use. They are not the people VAC should be targeting, because they will never catch them, they should target the common cheater flooding their official servers, which is someone using a 20 euro cheat that's publicly available. Someone who cheats, cause they're bad, instead of someone who cheats, because they have a passion for low level system hacking and a lot of expertise in that field. What valve is doing with their anticheat is literally putting the cart before the horse. 22:22 back then valve didn't kill counter strike source on release of cs:go. People could still play the better game, so it was fine if cs:go was trash for a few years after it's release. With cs2, it's not fine if it's trash on release, because valve took away the previous title.
Players have not proven to be able to tell the difference. Watch the Kliksphilip tests on tickrate. If you do a blind test, the difference is marginal at best. What you experienced was the placebo effect.
@@watersnortmoment3734 Lmao it's pretty obvious that gunplay hit different in 128 tick faceit, you can't just spray blindly and expect shots to hit as often as on 64 tick servers.
Thank fucking god there's at least 1 person to call out this AI bullshit.
Amazing Video, I love the editing style. Subbed 👌
i'm thinking why's my palace hop failing all the time
13:06 i had a decent pc for csgo but after upgrading gpu recently i still get really low fps (sub 100 in cs2 with an rx 6650xt) so now im spending another 300 dollars on a new cpu to play downgraded csgo
Yup, I made a new pc early this year and they decide to bring out the heaviest game of all the sequels that they have done.
I only started playing since cs2 only dabbling a little bit in 1.6 and csgo, but so far I love the game, they definitely pulled me in with the follow recoil option.
I had 40 hours on go and over 300 on cs2 😭 i was the one of the minority who actually like it better
@@pieathartdudes get attacked for liking cs2
@@Ken-kb1fr Even the pros think CS2 is bad so it's understandable.
why does your crosshair take up half of your screen
Fantastic rundown, thank you for this 🙏
cs2 just overhype lol, thats why people thinking it gonna "dead" soon. i was expecting lower for it and im actually okay with it for now. we just need to wait valve to fix this game good as csgo. anyway good video
everything in this video is so well said & phrased, im rlyy impressed by the speaking/writing skills that were put into it also valve should watch this
Lag and delays issues are bad in this game, even when i am destroying opponents i still think its only because their game might be lagging /delaying more
Agreed. ☹
4:13 Valve has the money to do so. They are mega rich from milking all of the greedy cosmetics, so they cna please the consumers but choose not to. As a matter of fact, they rather making things an inconvinience to the consumer by forcing them to use cs2 over csgo when it's at a broken state. If that wasn't bad enough, you have their greedy business practices that are anti-consumer too like mtx and subtle p2w.
Make lots of videos dude, you'll do well. Really great vid x
the fact that everything wrong with the game is basically just lack of content and some bugs tells me that CS2 will be just fine within a year. they probably already have plans to introduce content soon, but theyre focus is probably getting the game ready for the upcoming major in march so they game doesnt look like it doesnt belong in the Esports scene
What’s your config set up I like it bro
For its declining player base, it might also be because its the holidays and a couple of semi famous games have come out and I think people are playing those (lethal company and the finals).
Having Valve to utterly replace Counter-Strike: Global Offensive with Counter-Strike 2, is a serious dick move, because 1), it is so painfully inconsiderate towards the creators of Garry's Mod, and 2), it is art destruction, and destruction of art, especially games in general, is plain wrong. It shows just how selfish and out of touch Valve has gotten as a corporation.
Atleast tf2 fans can rest easy knowing valve didnt just abandon them specifically
joke's on u, they did
The way they handle cheaters is crazy like I played with one on my team (was a random) and they got banned and they penalized me and banned me from playing competitive for some time I forget how long just cause they were on my team
The awp zoom delay in cs2 is a problem people don't talk enough about. It fucks up a lot of shots, the game just misinterprets quickscopes for noscopes.
bro fr, i thought am the only one who feel that
They probably moved that from client side to server side so the delay will depend on your ping. I dont notice it but I usually have 20 or lower ping
CS players will... ALWAYS complain, no matter what...
its honestly odd to see counterstrike being messed with so badly by valve, its a very TF2 situation, except CS is valves' big iron.
Absolutely phenomenal video. For the moment believe it or not, my biggest problem with the game is the current meta especially related to the economy, there's just no incentive as T to grab anything else than the AK, it's just too good for the money even with how hard the spread pattern is to master efficiently in actual engagements, and subtick has made this weapon even more deadly than before. So the result of this is 12 rounds as T when you see full AK on the 5 team members (well, 11 with pistol round ofc). The AWP is also a concern, I understand it was already nerfed pretty significantly but it still gives a massive skill bypass for only the price of $4700, plus it's just boring to be honest, even when you hold it (and it's not like I'm bad with it I do hit my shots, but there's little sense of accomplishment, even the SCAR feels more satisfying to use and by a long shot). There should be some sort of class based restrictions like 2 AWPs max per game (so it does either 1 per team or 2 max on a team).
funny how snipers are hated even here as an TF2 player, in an game where most weapons can be used for long range
Oh shit fancy seeing you here
@@cburn-YT little world ^^
the game is gonna be fine
das what I said
My computer can’t run cs2. And my wife’s boyfriend said that I shouldn’t be wasting money on childish stuffs like computers
Adam22 is that you?
Subtick is such an incredible solution that could improve a lot of different genres. But please, make the animations start on the subtick too.
Seeing that valve is updating cs2 relatively quickly, im going to assume that it will all be fine in the end. It was rushed tho
I will never understand why they overwrote and replaced CSGO, and stole all the reviews. It feels deceptive. I even saw a Cynical Brit recommendation. He's been dead for years.
The anti cheat segment is very complicated. For starters, ai based anti cheat is only as good as it's training data, it's going to detect rage hacks quickly and miss a lot of legit cheats. Personally, I see a lot more legit cheaters now days and I think this is why, cheaters are aware of this. On the flip side, I think intrusive anti cheat has a positive that a lot of people miss, the financial side. Intrusive anti cheat is a lot more difficult to bypass, cheat developers have to invest a lot more brain power and time to make something work. This means a smaller cheat economy, and more expensive cheats. Less cheat products means that anti cheat developers can spend more time focusing on the few cheats that do exist. Long story short, it doesn't need to be affective, it needs to be frustrating. The final thing I'll say is, it's 100% true that ai anti cheat is future proof. This is because there are cheat setups that are intrusive anti cheat future proofed. You can think of hardware based cheats and machine learning based cheats. These are fundamentally difficult to detect, if not impossible depending on the setup. AI gets around this because it's not trying to detect things running on your machine, it just analyzes your gameplay like a human would. This will mean more and more that if you want to cheat, you now have to limit your cheats and you'll be less of a nuisance even if you do get away with it.
Some dude like a year ago built a machine learning cheat that runs on a different PC. You point a camera at your pc and it sends mouse input through a HID device. Impossible to detect. The reality is that with technology like this, online gaming will just be HvH from now. And lets be honest, it already mostly was. At high rank majority of csgo players were cheating, and now with cs2 there are even more. The only way to have fair competition will be on lan with stock hardware.
There is gunrace now, but i miss safehouse, lake and cache in comp.
thinking about csgo thinking about how much fun it was thinking about cs2 thinking about how horrible it is thinking about how its over thinking about the future thinking about why terrible life now
You have very impressive aim. What a flicker.
I just want more maps. Especially Wingman maps like Lake.
i miss Lake so much man I used to only play arms race and wingman 😭
or cobblestone :(
The issue with VAC live is that it's trained on rage hacks, spins and aimbots. That automatically lets anybody play with blatant wallhacks and not get punished for it, as the AI isn't trained on legit cheaters, who actively try to hide it in high elo matches. Past 20k elo in premier, there is a cheater in 80% of matches. Watching back demos you can clearly see how blatantly obvious they are, but since the anti-cheat is AI and can't distinguish between a good player and a cheater that just tries to hide it a little bit, they won't get punished for it...
100% agree. I even ran into a 5,000 hour account with an expensive inventory that was being boosted by blatant cheaters in premier. He was friends with the cheater on steam and when I looked back at his leetify he’d played 60+ matches in his last 100 with banned accounts. Check a couple days later and sure enough that cheater account from my match got banned, but not before he and his boosted friend ranked 21,000+ elo. People who cheat or get intentionally boosted by cheats in counter strike must live a sad sad life, I’m so confused by what they even gain. Just a bunch of trolls trying to ruin peoples’ experience and it works. I get that some people are just really good at the game but I’ve played enough cs over the last 15 years to be able to spot a real cheater when I see one. I’ve heard the same sentiment from my friends who are long time cs players. We’re all frustrated by the cheating situation. I’d like to see overwatch return but idk if it’s realistic. Idk much about anti cheat but something needs to give, it hasn’t been this bad since csgo was made free to play
The same reaction was had when global offensive released and source ended just fucking wait
Nah cs2 is actually a*s
AMAZING VIDEO! you've explained what we've all been feeling about this game
I used to get 60 fps on medium settings. Now, in CS2, medium settings only get me 20 fps. Don't get me wrong, the graphics look great, but the experience is not the same.
Your PC must be over 10 years old then... Dude, get a grip, buy a new PC. That thing is ready for retirement.
@@ML_314 I'm sure you have intricate knowledge of his financial situation to say 'just buy a new PC lol'.
@@crylune Well, that is a slight misinterpretation of what I wanted to say. CS2 does run smooth on pretty old midclass components, see the comparisons by 3kliksphilip for example kzhead.info/sun/iM96d7WrjKNrpYE/bejne.html this video wraps it up pretty nicely I think. Even with mediocre hardware from about 10 years ago you would get way over 100 FPS with FullHD resolution and basic image quality settings. The fact that Marshal-Y's machine isn't capable of that leads an experienced person to the conclusion, that it is either *much older* or that it has even worse performance than said mediocre 10-year-old components... Therefore trying to play literally *any* modern game with that PC would result in a similar experience: very 'basic' graphics with very low framerates - or maybe even not being able to play at all... I personally for example play with a GTX 1660 super that I bought used for about $70 (65 EUR) together with a Ryzen 5 5600. With good quality settings in FullHD this PC gives me way over 200 FPS in CS2. Sure, I dopn't know how big his pockets are, but at this point Marshal-Y / you have to admit that his PC just isn't fit for this task anymore. ...and wasn't for CS:GO either...
I have 3k+ hours in csgo. Played since launch. I played about 10 hours of cs2 and haven't touched it since.
Real.
Ok I'm actually mad if there is no arms race anymore or dangerzone
As a totally new player to counter strike and this kind of game in general (I have tried valorant once and hated it) I love playing CS2, sounds like the old fan base is allergic to change and exaggerating from an outsider perspective
Bingo!
100%
Csgo is literally filled with whiny bitches who have been complaining for 7 years it’s nothing new
I got into CSGO from watching the eSports scene. There's no way you wouldn't be able to tell the difference in how the pros play between CS2 and CSGO. It has definitely changed awkwardly. It's impossible to argue that competitive CS2 is better or the same quality as CSGO was.
Same here, kinda new to csgo and I see that players are very allergic to change (I can't blame them very much tbh)
Worst thing for me is actually the game crashing, it happens randomly and is not replicable, CS2 shows as not responding in the task manager and i have to close the game there and open again to rejoin the match and sometimes it may not even happen, other times the game crashes only once, some matches crash like 5 times and this is very frustrating because otherwise the game runs completely fine in my setup
check event viewer, it should tell you the issues
Amazing video all around my guy, loved it.
Valve just shit on the people who made cs what it is today, imagine if valve started out with this high fidelity 4k 60fps molotov cocktail bullshit which no one could run on an average pc, it wouldnt be where it is today. And what purpose does this high fidelity bring to competitive pvp gaming, it would be like football players be required to play in designer gucci, louis, fendi, prada jerseys for what fuckn reason, its nothing but pointless. Make a fair lvl playing field for the players to compete... U can literally fix cs cheating by encrypting all player data that is sent to the server, without breaching privacy or anything else.