Hey! Hope you all enjoy this took a long long time, next video will probably be about Random Battles and it's multitude of sibling metagames as I've recently fallen into that rabbit hole. Thanks for watching!
- Chapters -
0:00 - What is STABmons?
0:28 - Quick interesting Niches
1:48 - The Araquanid Effect
2:28 - Berry(?) of the Show
5:13 - But why not Rage Fist?
6:50 - Yet Last Respects is?
7:14 - Why They Ban Pokemon (not moves)
7:32 - Thanks for watching!
7:42 - The Rest (spungbob)
8:38 - Subscribe (pls)
- Stuff -
STABmons Just Banned Pecharunt, But Why?
Pecharunt is the newest (UU) Mythical Pokemon introduced shortly after the Indigo Disk DLC, and in this video I discuss exactly why it was banned, as well as a few other topics relating to it, from the STABmons tier :)
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Sorry for the wait! (Been playing Fallout New Vegas lately after the show came out) Hope you all enjoy, and definitely go try STABmons if you haven't it's super fun :)
10x more based for binging NV, loving the content lately :]
Thank you so much, never fully beat the game as a kid so now I'm trying again, loving it so far lol :)
While on principle I agree that move bans should be rare and that ability to use unique moves is part of what makes stabmons unique, I am glad that last respects was banned. Nobody needs to deal with that move, it's just dumb. If it's too good for ubers it's def too good for any OM save for maybe BH.
I entirely agree with this, Rage Fist is unique as it encourages a whole other style of play for many Pokemon, you'd never play Decidueye in mind as a defensive offensive sweeper, but due to Rage Fist, it's a very potent option. Last Respects doesn't make anything more interesting, it's simply just the ability to have a base 250 powered STAB move that encourages your team dying lol
Rage Fist rewards a Pokemon for enduring multiple attacks. Last Respects rewards a Pokemon for not being sent out first.
If you think it's too good for ubers uhhh skill issue get better
this is fascinating! i love learning about weird competitive pokemon tiers, and you do a great job presenting the information. good video
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed :)
You're awesome for being the only Pokémon player that covers OMs on youtube
Tysm! I really enjoy OMs and have always felt there was a lack of content on them, glad you enjoyed :)
It’s really surprising how LITTLE coverage OM’s and Petmods get on KZhead
It is, especially given the interesting landscapes many of the tiers have for what's good, like Sylveon being one of the most defining pokemon for generations in STABmons or The Losers Metagame where you literally just try and lose the fastest (Explosion and Self Destruct are banned) and avoid your enemy losing by healing them up, it's surprising the lack of coverage these Metagames get, especially during droughts for competitive pokemon where new things aren't coming for a long time
@@EvelynIsBased there is 100% a niche out there for someone to take on petmods specifically IMO
This is definitely true, might actually look into some myself now
I used to use a similar strategy in generation 7 monotype STABmons, but with Alolan Muk running Power Trip instead of Rage Fist, since the latter didn't exist yet. Some of the most fun I had playing OMs was using my all dark squad to beat on people using the flying sample team trying to abuse Tail Glow Yanmega for free wins XD
That's interesting, I didn't play OMs back in Generation 7, so it's interesting to hear how the Metagame used to be, thanks for commenting :)
How the fuck did the ghost/poison pokemon with the best poison move and best ghost move get banned from stabmons Edit: why the fuck is rage fist allowed
Every ghost pokemon gets those moves, same as how so many Pokemon get so many powerful things, like Ogerpon Wellspring with Jet Punch, or Volcanion with Water Shuriken. You have to remember with a Metagame like this that the power level is much higher than OU. Hence why I also talked about how very similar pokemon to Pecharunt, like Skeledirge, do not thrive as it does, even alongside Tera and Curse support to mimic Coil, making it an interesting case of how a pretty bad Pokemon marks out an overwhelming niche in this Metagame Also to answer your question Rage Fist is allowed as there are not many supporters for it that work well. Dragapult being banned limits one of the few physical ghost attackers. And not many Pokemon can tank the powerful moves inside of STABmons, as I described in the video. Also as I described in the video as why it's not banned but Last Respects is.
just use eviolite haunter bro
Virgin Decidueye VS Chad Eviolite Haunter
@@EvelynIsBased yeah I saw the video it makes sense in the end but still
the editing is so clean and fun! thanks Evelyn!
Thank you so much! Very glad you enjoyed, spent a lot of time on the editing :)
Me and the homies walking up with choice specs Origin Pulse Mega Launcher
I hope you cover STABmons more! This was a really interesting video!
Thank you so much! I'll definitely continue to cover STABmons more in the future :)
It is not banned in natdex STABmons and it is an absolute problem there. Hope they resolve this issue.
Wow, Pecharunt was actually good somewhere? 💀
this was really well made and well explained! I hope your channel blows up someday
Thank you so much :)
but araquanid was mainly banned because of tail glow since it has water shuriken
You're actually right, I remember writing that part of the script and thinking I was forgetting a move or a set or something, but that's true yeah, thanks for clearing that up sorry for that
As someone who's played BH since Water Bubble got banned in that tier, I gotta ask why was Water Bubble ever allowed in Stabmons? If a user has any good options it is one of the dumbest abilities ever released
So it was rather quickly banned, reason it wasn't banned off spawn was mostly cause people thought that with Ogerpon Wellspring and Volcanion around, water absorb would make it harder to abuse the water moves. Turns out having 2 pokemon in a whole Metagame counter 1, isn't really that healthy lol, as such it was banned shortly after it's return. Also didn't help that as mentioned in the video, Ogerpon Wellspring really did not appreciate being first impressioned into oblivion lol
@@EvelynIsBased really only 1 counter in volc tbh since no move of Waterpon's can KO Araquanid with HP investment and needless to say stab +3 bug buzz KOs
Nice video ! I see a lot of inspiration from electricwindgirlfriend video, but u manage to create ur own style with it.
Thank you a lot! Yeah I take a lot inspiration from creators like Jimothy, Freezai, and Electricwindgirlfriend
Love the great content!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it :)
My brain after too much gen3 ou: smh gets hard walled by snorlax Super cool to see info on the more exotic metagames!
Great video as always
Thank you again for watching :)
Loving these videos
Thank you so much, glad you're enjoying them :)
"pekarunt"
Is rockhrad banded aero viable? If so I’ll play the tier
This was very interesting!
I'm glad! Thank you for watching :)
"Peckarunt", ITS PECHARUNT, CH CH CH CH CH CH Oh also nice video
I'm sorry 😭
@@EvelynIsBased you're good
I'll be completely honest. I thought this thing was a Fakemon at first and clicked on the video out of pure curiosity
Pikachu: My time has come
great video
...correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't they just ban the move on Pecharunt specifically? That way the vast majority still get access to the move, and the problem is dealt with without removing Pecharunt.
They don't like complex bans on principle, basically it kinda opens up the idea of "why don't we let Kyogre in OU but only allow it to run Whirlpool"
Besides, I'm pretty sure with the way Showdown works, anything more complicated than a blanket ban would need to be listed as a Clause - like Gen 4's "one setup baton passer" clause, or the Mega Rayquaza clause
Pecharunt is actually kinda crazy in 1v1 tbh
Please cover infinite fusions please!
Why is Rage fist allowed in stabmons at all? If it's not as bad as Triaga being allowed for god knows how long in AAA, but still, it's one busted aah move
There just isn't many abusers for it, I mean there really isn't that many physical ghost types in general, and most of them abused another thing too and got banned for that. There's especially a lack of tanky and strong physical ghost types, to give an example of just how limited there is for options, Decidueye is the current "best" Rage Fist user, but it still isn't that good lol
I mean, just watch around minute 6 of the video, he explains it pretty well. OMs like this lose the fun if you ban the reasons people would even come to play them
I hope someone at Game Freak is looking at STABmons when putting together gen x learnsets. There are lots of cool combos that just can't exist on any current Pokemon. A Pokemon doesn't need a new ability or type combination to feel unique if it pairs preexisting options in a way that's never existed before. Also, the day Dusknoir gets a better recovery option than Pain Split, we're all doomed.
Unless Dusclops also gets said Recovery move, then Dusknoir will likely be overshadowed by it's own pre-evo (again). Though maybe an argument could be made if they let Dusknoir regain Duskull's Levitate instead of retaining Dusclops' Pressure.
So what im hearing is Cotton Guard Rage Fist Banette is the next meta
Maybe with Mega lol, if they ever gave it prankster could be a great option for it, sadly though Decidueye does outclass it due to Strength Sap
I just came for the Evangelion reference
Is it not pronounced peh-cha-runt because of the, yknow, peh-cha berry?
It is lol, I'm just apparently stupid and didn't know that
Astral barrage?
Why on earth does rage fist remember the boosts even after switches lol
An example of Game Freaks ever present wisdom
That would've made too much sense
Why’s final gambit banned? I looked in the banlist and it seems like an odd choice
I might be mistaken but after checking STABmons forum page it doesn't say Final Gambits banned, you may have looked at the wrong Metagame page?
@@EvelynIsBasedBut now that opens up the question of what metagame would ever ban final gambit Maybe the metagame where you're meant to porpusefully lose to win?
There is the Losers Metagame where you need to lose before you opponent does, I'm pretty sure most recoil moves (including final gambit) are banned, so you'd be right :)
@@EvelynIsBased I understand kamikaze moves being banned but recoil being banned sounds odd, it seems like it'd be a cool risk vs reward sorta deal where your move deals a lot of damage but it also damages you quite a bit
@@InsertFunnyThingHere recoil moves aren’t banned, it’s just all self KOs and magic room (coz it completely shuts down barb/black sludge/item based strats without interesting counterplay)
So it's just fruity Annihilape
grafaiai becomes the meta when
Grafaiai actually can be very rarely used for its niche as an annoying Prankster Glare/Transform user, not that good but it's a niche nonetheless lol
@@EvelynIsBased oh really? I was only thinking it because it completely blanks pecharunt
Who is Evelyn?
That's me lol
okay so hear me out, Necrozma Rage Fist. It learn Moonlight and then can use Sunsteel Strike and also Dragon Dance
Only necrozma dusk wings is ghost type. Also it's banned anyway since it's based on OU
@@ValToadstool no I meant it literally working on Normal Necrozma
@@realhutoew Normal Necrozma is just a pure psychic so it wont get rage fist?
@@Wrenellen-lh7jt oi, it does have different form of dawn wing and dusk mane, and can change to main necromzma. Literally exactly same as Rotom
@@realhutoew I didnt know it worked like that, I just checked and that dd set is one of its two main sets
I imagine that glacial lance and astral barrage are banned moves, right?
Glacial Lance isn't banned, not a lot of too powerful abusers for it that specifically would want it over some other potential options. Astral Barrage isn't banned either, powerful on Gholdengo and has been debated but is yet to be banned now. Mostly cause there isn't a whole lot of Ghost attackers other than Ghold to abuse it
What makes astral barrage better than moongeist beam??
@jmcbango Astral Barrage has 20 more Base Power
pekarunt?
Is that not how it's said? please tell me that's how it's said this video took so long 😭
@@EvelynIsBased pecharunt, ch, like the pecha berry or chance
Funny cause I've also always pronounced the pecha berry as K and not Ch lol, good to know though thank you
it's based on "peach", so yeah it's not peka
shadow ball isn't 90bp 3:30
You'd be right lol, must've been a typo I did when making that one
i thought i was the only person that pronounced it as peckarunt wtf
Ikr it feels right that way lol
Way too many sound effects
Thank you for the feedback, I tried to quiet them down a bit in this one but I'll see about reducing them better next time
@@EvelynIsBased it's only my personal taste. I'm sure other "people" like it
@@dirtydard4870you did not just hit them with the "people" in quotes man
@@InsertFunnyThingHere I did. You saw it with your own eyes
Nice video but your text just looks bad & hard to read
Thanks for the feedback :)
@@EvelynIsBasedI like it actually, its justa bit low res is all
I didn’t have much of an issue with the text either.
rage fist is broken, the stabmons council are stupid
The current best abuser is Decidueye, which is typically the best due to a good defensive stat spread, access to Strength Sap and Cotton Guard, and obviously Rage Fist, even with this though, Decidueye is still not very good at all lol
After almost no research imo decidueye could be a decent fit for rage fist despite not having pecharunt stats as it has roost/strength sap and cotton guard. It also gets beak blast from its rowlet pre evolution which is probably not great but I thought was neat as you mentioned the move earlier in the video
This is actually true, while still struggling as Decidueye lacks the pure defense Pecharunt had, it is typically seen as the best user for Rage Fist now that Pecharunt is gone, and Beak Blast makes it a scary mon to kill given you have to debate if it's worth the Burn risk, thank you for the comment :)
Aww hell naw spunchbob got banned