The 200% Faster Cast Nova Sorceress is back! Just like the good ol' days of 1.09, Activision Blizzard has brought her back for PTR Patch 2.4!
Intro - 0:00
Gear - 0:24
Skills - 5:36
Eldritch & Shenk - 7:32
Cows & Gameplay - 8:09
Chaos Run - 11:22
Baal Run - 12:06
Final Thoughts - 13:37
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Awesome build. I prefer 105 fcr self-held infinity w. a merc wearing insight personally. It's awesome to find a content creator who actually knows what they're talking about.
Great idea, and by no means does this break the spec, but those staff skill mods are impossible. You can't get a lvl 1 skill and a lvl 24/30 skill on a staff: lvl 1 skills require ilvl 18 lvl 24 skills require ilvl >24 lvl 30 skills require ilvl >36. So you'd need to drop warmth on your attack staff for something else, and pick a different cold armor for your buffing staff. Maybe Thunderstrom for offensive staff, and enchant+shiver armor on the offhand?
swap warmth to energy shield
I don't think you need Energy Shield, actually. In this video, the buff to Energy Shield on his swap did absolutely 0 for him, because +3 ES and +1 all skills was the exact same as the +4 on his main weapon. You can see that he's at 39 for the skill, and it maxes out at 40. But also, looking at his charms, he has space for one more skiller (by ditching his TP tome and a single small charm). So add one skiller and there you go, maxed out at level 40. Thunderstorm might be the better answer, then. A +3 to Thunderstorm on the staff gets you a level 23 Thunderstorm with a full synergy (If you get that extra skiller too), and that's probably not too impactful compared to your Nova damage, but it's not nothing, and ought to at least look cool. You know, if you're rich enough to be able to buy a staff that is +3 Nova, +3 TS, and +3 LM. I'm certainly not and could never see myself making that sort of investment. While we're on the subject of skills on staves, his staff on switch has T-storm, which is useless (goes away as soon as he switches to his main staff), and ES, which is useless (same bonus on main), and frozen armor. Frozen Armor is theoretically possible in a War Staff, if you were to cube recipe a low quality war staff to get an ultra low ilvl (which Larzuk would still give 5 sockets to), but I have to wonder if that sort of effort is really worth saving one measly skill point, when the alternative is to pair your CTA with a shield that gives you an extra bonus to all skills, buffing up your BO. That seems like a better plan to me.
@@ferallemur he cant have warmth. swap warmth for energy sheild on his main 3+4=7.
@@ZzDuffy I know he can't have warmth. But he's already at 39 ES on his main, he has room for one more skiller, and 40 is max. Extra points to Energy Shield won't do anything. So he'd be better off with Thunderstorm, because at least that does SOMETHING.
@@ferallemur +3 energy shield lets you max lvl 40 with only 18 hard points though. That lets you put a hard point into LS and frost armor and use spirit for BO buff or still use a buff staff with LS/Shiver armor and 2 additional points into warmth. Sorry I didnt explain myself, was a little sauced lol
finally a guide I needed. Thanks Cooley :P
Nova was my first sorc build i ever really liked. Im glad to see it back!
This is a Nova Sorc!!! I saw a video from sweet phil yesterday about the Nova Sorc and had to laugh a bit 😅... Great build, great video as always. 👍🏻👍🏻🤙🏼
"It's pretty nuts, in a nutshell"
It's obvious in that video that 2.4 still has the bug where a prebuffed Thunderstorm doesn't do damage (it doesn't trigger even once in your runs) if you don't have at least a single hard skill point in it.
That bug is rare and usually happens when someone has skills on an offhand switch and no normal points into when they prebuff it
@@Cornholers it was bugged on LoD too hope they fix it
Nah they fix shit… its Blizzard after all. They keep adding „content“ (read: items, runewords) and call it a day.
I think going for Holy Freeze merc is going to benefit this build more than the Defiance aura. The slow on the attack and movement speed could outweigh the damage reduction from simply having passive + Defense.
It always does
I disagree.. your nova stuns.. I use this build in current patch and find that Holy freeze keeps the monsters further away than I want. Great for survival.. not good for speed runs.
@@jonasberry4779 If your goal is speed running then Might would be even better since your merc gets to slap harder?
Nothing will be able to beat the infinity to drop res
@@2d42day That's great for item consideration but they're debating over the best default merc aura.
Can a staff actually spawn with +x to warmth and light mastery? I thought they could not spawn skills that are that far apart, ie lvl 1 skill and lvl 30 skill.
I think it's a great content... Thanks for sharing this 👍
Love the Cta staff! It’s nice not seeing your typical cta flail with spirit shield, which has been in every build video for like the last 20 years lol
Absolutely insane. Looks so fun
Forb sorc with thunderstorm and mana shield was my fav sorc build from pre 1.10 d2 (for mf/pve); really love the idea that build could be viable again. Great to see the good old nova sorc can play with the adults again too.
yup this is how I remember my sorc - I did try to make a nova sorc and of course it was weak...will be nice when this comes out!
I played 200 fcr nova sorc this past launch and I'm HYPED for this! Damage was low then but it's INSANELY fun! GOTTA GO FAST!
hard to stack MF on it thought
@@guillaumebesner2331 this is true I used it as a key farmer and I’d also farm places like arcane sanctuary for hrs and it was pretty good for a pit runner too since there was a lot of tping there involved.
@@TheLADRAY nice! keep it going friend!
@@guillaumebesner2331 Speed > MF %
feels buffing Nova makes Dual-Dreams sorc even more play-able. You can use Nova/Static fields to clear mobs really quickly along with buffed shock aura. and chop bosses off with your Passion
That's how my nova sorc did her business back in 1.09....good old memories
When I started playing D2R when it dropped I knew that the Nova sorc wasn't what it was in 1.09. My absolute favorite build and it's going to be back! YAAASSSS! Thanks for showing the highest end version of her, Cooley!
Yess I really miss my nova/orb sorc. Can't wait.
Great Build! And Obsession is a great endgame Runeword, I love it.
The energy shield and frozen armor works, but tstorm doesn’t work. Once you swap back to your primary, u keep the aura of tstorm, but it won’t attack.
yeah the tstorm doesn't work with prebuff & no hard points, its clear in the video there's no thunder strikes lol.
another thing is when you dont have 1 point in ES its just weaker then if u have
@@aleksandyrveliki162 ES is maxed in this video. He just uses es on staff to break lvl 40 es on prebuff to have 95%
How can you get anni, torch, gheed, etc on ptr? do you have to use the keys and farm for anni and keep duping to get right one? duping sojs for annis? the 5 socket archon staff for cta? hero edit?
Insane. :O ! Very awesome :D !
I could definitely see this being a late-game build with some early-game potential, especially in a group setting. Being able to max Static and focus on Teleport, FCR, and Mana pools early would be huge. Maybe wield your own Insight until you can afford an Obsession, keep an eye out for some early stat-sticks to tide you over until you find both supreme 3x+3 6os/5os dream sticks. Sadly it still suffers from being a Lightning build, so demand for these items is already going to be obscenely high at the beginning of the season, and remain in high demand well through to the end of the season. Solo Sorcs are still probably better with Hydra/Blizzard until they can stack enough gear to respec into something a bit more flexible. Glad to see some 1.09 love back in action, though!
Yeah reminds me of pre-1.10. I used to run orb/nova back then. With all that Warmth you should have a demon limb in stash to enchant your merc for those LI/PIs.
I will be going after this build for key farming. I just finished my uber smiter paladin with Enigma and Last wish. Once I can get this build I'll be all set to farm to my hearts content
Nova will be the new lightning sorc meta for density clearing. Have you tried infinity on the Sorc and insight on the merc? You can only hit the 105 fcr breakpoint, but you feel safer with the extra mana regen and the -light res on infinity helps overcome the lower fcr breakpoint.
i dont think so that gear is way to expensive , new ladder comes forget about all this perfect items , this sorc wont work like this with other items
@@alonsoheredia816 no more expensive than current lightning sorc meta. Once you get infinity, this becomes the best density farmer for sorceress.
You could have upped the vipermagi as well. With any of the cold armors it would make a decent difference. Same with the gloves. Decent little bonus
The magefists as well I believe.
you'd need to skill strength then. upped viper requires 84 Strength, so with the perfect torch and anni you lose 14 points to reach it. Still might be worth it, though :) I'm more concerned with the Ber Runes, considering damage to mana happens before Resistances are applied. so the 16% DR only works on 5% of the damage that goes thru the ES. Not sure, whether D2R changed much regarding the Icetree Armors, but iirc the higher tier armors were much better than the one you get at level 1. especially the one that retaliates ranged attacks with a freeze might be an exceptional choice, given that ES sorcs are quite weak to extra fast archers, esp. with manaburn
super sick. love to see it. although.. not hard pointing TS means it won't strike even if it shows it "on" under your feet.
on hc we used maxblock with storm shild on this nova sorcs. basicly jump into a giant group of cows use frostnova, a few times static and finish off with nova. holy freeze merc did help a lot :D i miss that playstyle so much. had a lvl 99 sorc on bnet hc back then.. 75%block and 75dr you could just stand in the cows and didnt get dmg at all :D
It’s refreshing to see this sorc get build properly. Of course there’s always a few pieces that are more ideal but the solid base is there for sure. Great video man! Can’t wait to see you piece this char together and chase those items!
This build is still manageable with viper, magefist aldur boots you don’t need grif and all the other expensive gear but it does help damage wise. You don’t need infinity but if you one kudos but a act two reapers merc does fine. I made one with 140 cast rate isn’t too much of a difference casting wise. I also made it with firewall before the updated it. Energy and telekinesis is a must, thunderstorm should’ve been stated in
Cast rate has completely definable breaks between improvements though, 140 is the same speed as 105 which is a lot slower than 200. If you want to build a 105 you are definitely losing damage for useless FCR somewhere
Big style points for this :)
can i found one of these arcon staff's on a vendor on hell diff? Or i only get them from a monster drop?
Nice build I’ll just remortgage my house to build it 😂 nice end game content 👍
IDK if it's just me but seeing the new graphics of the nova just don't fullfill that same graphic as in D2. It almost used to look like a frost nova back then and I do miss that. Great build though and great content.
If you want it to look like frost nova, you can play a frost nova sorc or switch graphics to legacy.
@@alphaomega3839 "Us OG's" Hahaha, as if I hadn't played the original myself but I guess such levels of condescension are to be expected from someone with that username.
It’s just you. I played the game when it came out. Seeing the new graphics the job Blizzard did is actually mind blowing. And it feels natural as well. They actually took the game and made it look perfectly!!!
wow that's awesome. kinda want to make a nova sorc now
How does it do in higher player difficulties? Looks like a good mass mob killer for rune hunting but HRs on player one are ouch regarding drop probabilities.
That new runeword is so good. Nice build man.
Im thinking what would be better starting sorc build for the season. Fire sorc - got leaf at the start, magefist gives +1, hydras are great for andy and meph farming Nova - available earlier, synergy with static, good for farming countess, good for large density
Fire is a better start, nova doesn’t feel good with less than 200fcr or high damage output, also fire now has really good lvl 85 areas that will be very easy to clear with budget gear. Fire will also be far superior with bosses as nova has very bad single target damage even when fully geared
Nova, which I love, is pretty mana intensive for early game
@@breazybear yeah agree, just thinking about farming countess and nihlathak, with fire its bit pain
Early game nova Sorcs use Static in a rotation so they really aren't any more mana heavy. Especially in Norm. Until you've got an Insight merc, every Sorc build is chugging mana pots anyways. This specific build would be squishy af early on (first 24 levels at least) if you only put into energy buuuut it would have a lot less mana issues. Good with a friend and for NM teleporting. I would say, Nova is prolly better for key/rune farming and Hydraball is better for item farming, generally. Hydraball is better in the area level 85 game, too, with the Stony Tomb, Drifter Cavern, Icy Cellar addition. Until you have Infinity, that is.
i was an obsession doubter...now im not. great vid as always man!
having tried both, i prefer insight on prayer merc instead of infinity on this build. you can transfer all of those warmth hard points to thunderstorm, which (when maxed) is actually really useful. you have to go hybrid to with such setup, since otherwise you wont have enough mana to sustain nova. insight takes care of that and prayer on merc synergises with it. im not lacking -res since i already have -30, and extra damage from thunderstorm offsets those lost -res points from not having infinity on merc
Current pre 2.4 nova does pretty good already in p1. How does this build do in p8?
Very cool, NOVA is one of the funniest builds to play. I'm wondering if its worth to go from 105 FCR to 200. The DPS with 200 FCR is 14% higher than with 105 FCR but a big sacrifice has to be done to reach that 200 FCR which might not be worth it from a DPS perspective. For example 105 FCR can be reached by using Eldrich 40, Griffon 25, Arach 20 and Ormus 20 and there is still space left for other options like 2x SOJ, Frost Gauntlets, Mara, Jmod with 4x 5/5 and other options which combined would probably provide more than the 14% increase in DPS that the 200 FCR provides. Sure 200 FCR is more fun than 105 tho. In any case, being able to play NOVA again feels great :D
If I'm not mistaken back in 1.09 Nova gain additional hits when you had 200fcr, almost like Hammerdins 125 fcr that spawn additional hammer. Not sure if it's still the same process in D2R. :)
Man this is a beautiful build. Just like I remember it.
Your buff staff doesn't work. Cta has +1 to all skills, so with your +3 ES you only get +4 which is exactly as much as you would get with your main staff. Not to mention that you get a weaker BO without spirit.
true say. that staff gets +1 more to es/ts/fa but loses out on +2 to bo/bc.
@@Burgerkingsucks1 But it doesn't even give +1 more es. Both give +4.
@@MrLazyleader ya I was thinking of casting es on cta switch. You're absolutely right; that cta staff is useless, not even mentioning the fact that those 3 spell rolls on a 5 OS staff r impossible to find or cost a 100x more than cs cta + spirit
No. He didn't invest points I to those buff skills. He it's saving him points.
I've been playing a FrozenOrb/Nova sorc as my first ladder character and have been loving it! Just like old times! XD
Would've liked to see this on P8.
Vouch I feel like this is one of those builds that will drop off hard on P8.
It does well in hell, cow killer (static them spam nova) only issue is light inmunes but you can pretty much farm anywhere although act 3 counsel does give a slight problem sometimes
Super slow because nova isn’t strong but the fact of how fast you can cast it is. In p8 monsters have way too much health
@@Phantom_Shades infinity cancel 98% of light immunes in the game where is the problem ?
@@stevenheroux9199 not everyone can afford infinity with the high runes
Badass! When can we see you and Synched get some PVP in with these new builds!?
Do you think a merc chant from demon limb could get to kill the phys immunes??
thunderstorm would be infinitely more effective if it had a chance to cast level XX static field, giving a "storm" an actual area of effect. i hate to comment much about the nova power. with elemental masteries, sorceresses have the overall best potential to make any skill partially viable, more so than other characters. speaking of masteries, wouldnt the act 3 mercs benefit greatly from having respective masteries.... i believe that change only makes sense... especially when the mercenary moves to hell.
That idea for tstorm casting static is absolutely fire, but would need to be not too high of a chance.
@@noknownthrone2487 Agreed on all points. Great idea, Coooley plz send this up the chain :D
@Justice or you cast it every 3rd tick
@@noknownthrone2487 every 3rd tick, not a chance would be nice
@Justice Which I currently do... the point is that would be a nice QOL for those who would like to utilize it in that way.
Isn't the max +skills on a bare staff max at +3/+3/+2 or am i remembering this wrong?
nova looks sick, all the light spells do. your the man for pvp so is FOH op?
Cooley can you do a vid on the act 5 merc and explain to people why an eth uppd headstriker is godlike on them?
Cool Sorc, well done
That looks like alot of fun
Im thinking nova will be good for early game countess runs.
I play this right now on live servers. Instead of maxing static (synergy is not active yet) I put 20 points in Blizzard. And then the trick is to tele into cows and in the time it takes for conviction from infinity to apply you cast 1 blizzard and 1-2 statics. Kills pretty much as fast as this or even faster (200fc, similar gear but with hoto/spirit you only need 10fcr on amulet or with 20fcr amu you can equip one soj/buls).
I like the CTA stick! That is a nice option. Why don't you show the D kill or Baal. How does it do with Blood Mana curse? Poison and Blood mana seem like issues still. And obviously Light immunes you can't break. Also assume this is Players 1?
By far the coolest build I have ever seen. I’ve seen a lot. Lol
Is this the fastest chaos, baal minion/baal, pit, cow runner in the game? If so I'm making one. If it isn't the fastest could you please tell me what is?
Where are the best places to farm that GG staff? I see TC 85 areas only, but maybe some merchant can provide plain war staves or rune staves with those +3 skills... Still, that may take quite a bit...
GG build man! Nova/TS sorcs are strong/broken in PvP too.
Are the 2.4 class changes going to be updating non-ladder?
I think it defo looks awesome. Imo the best of all is survivability first along with maximum killing potential. Self Infi while having Eth insight on a Prayer Merc (yes prayer goes well with meditation) then the rest is pretty much the same with few changes. While the rune word staff is great and all, you have to get infi to the Merc and lose survivability on tough situations. I liked the “different” vibes though, amazing video and I am kinda glad game is evolving after all these years!
sorry what is that Hailstone Amulet? searched online found nothing. how can i aquire it?
Would be nice if you give us a link to that save file, so we can also test it pretty quick ;)
Do you have the singleplayer save file available to share? I'd like to test this out on PTR!
Does the Ber in armour reduction apply to ES?
This is dope af. Never happening this good but dope
But does it do more damage than 3/20 Eschuta's with 5/-5 facet?
you think nova will back in pop now or maybe as a low tier build?
This may be a bug, but you do actually need a hard point in thunderstorm. When I weapon swap with my sorc, using a weapon that gives me lightning storm, my character will have the lightning circle still around her but it wont actually do anything.
Nice video Coooley, only thing I think you should have mentioned was that you can build this sorc for much cheaper than you presented by taking away the ber runes, the perfect +skill archon staves, and the insane perfect charms and jewelry. I get that this video was basically demonstrating the perfect gg nova sorc. Just putting that out there for all the viewers who might think this build is out of their reach. The only expensive items this sorc needs is griffin's and infinity. You don't even need griffins if you go the hoto, spirit, 20 fcr circlet route.
What was the player difficulty set at for these runs?
Cooley! Do you think staffs will be pvp viable??
You should test it out, but Thunderstorm with no points into the skill deals no damage even if you manage to cast it with +X Thunderstorm staff. You should check out the damage in the moor and see if it works. That's an old bug from D2 Classic. Let's hope it works in D2R. So basically, you keep the buff, but it deals no damage.
Yes I hope they fix this
i use eschutas/spirit with merc infinity plus sunder with the fcr ammy. Only need one FCR ring 5.5k dmg 2 rows open inv. max resist with 35 light reduction.
Haha! This build is wild :D Great content Coooley. Any thoughts on a FoH/Holy Fire Pala for pvp this patch?
OP!
Hf and foh will probably be auto banned in gm duels
Cancer
That's why PVP in D2 is just for fun. It's not to be taken seriously.
Fist of heavens destroys pvp only build that can kill them is a chargedin with max light resist and smite
Where would one find stafs like that, can they be bought or gambled?
Really cool build! However, I'd like to see a test of this on the realms, because latency really screws up teleport once you get into the high FCR breakpoints. My paladin at 125 FCR (9 frames) gets that quite frequently. If I went for a 200 FCR (7 frames) sorc, this issue would become ridiculous and unplayable. I really hope Blizz will fix some of these latency issues, because as is, their servers simply don't respond fast enough to the client for this to be possible online.
are you running it on 4k max settings?
@@Burgerkingsucks1 1440p @ 165 Hz. Not sure why it would matter though. This was a problem in the original D2 as well. I'm certain it's an infrastructure/netcode problem, because this will not happen in the slightest on single player.
@@Westerguard1 same happens to me. I thought its just lag on my end but you're probably right
Damn dude...nice!
First positive bulid on ptr so far. Looks very fun and its quite limited becouse its expensive. Nice job!
Am I wrong or does he have 205 FCR? Is it 205 or 200 for the break point? Also your Tstorm isn't working...not sure if that was mentioned
I'm debating to make a Nova sorc as my first char for ladder. I mostly spend my time grushing people and this build might come close to a hammer although a bit pricier. Don't know if I can even make this first two weeks have saved up 35k FG from grushing last ladder :p When I tested it 105 for with crescen moon and sojs works better for p8 though and is a bit more affordable but 200 fcr is more fun. Those bases would be insanely expensive though :o
Very nice build.
Can it handle players 7-8 though? I'm guessing damage will be too low for most areas
how would such sorc work with 105fcr bp instead of 200? coh on chest, 2x soj and 40% max mana gloves, (can't remember the name).
Would be great. 105 fcr is still fast, and you deal more damage. I would go for 105 fcr.
@@Nonnenmacher87 well 117 fcr for light ;)
But can it kill Nihlaktak when you tele into the middle of the mob? :)
doesnt using a sunder gc help ur dmg on non lightning imune monsters?
I like the new staff. So good :P !
I would love to see a weaker ladder reset version but still using ES and what the priority for gear is :)
Infinity is essential. So there is no super cheap alternative unless you have a paladin friend with conviction (which is the most popular aura in the most popular build of 2.4, the fohdin). Probably have to stick to 105, because 2/20 amulets arent reasonable at reset. 3 pc tal with spirit, shako, and occy/hoto/eschutas, or full tals. Gloves could be frosties, mage fist, or chancies. Boots are silkweave or marrowalks. Rings natures peace and dwarf star both have decent integer damage reduction to help es.
you know the weird thing about this build is that i'm not convinced it's much better than a pre-patch frost nova sorceress with the best gear. i mean you get max frost nova, max frozen orb, max blizzard, only need 1 point into cold mastery for -150% cold resists, max ice bolt, max ice blast. 1500 frost nova damage, 1500 frozen orb, 10k blizzard, 10k ice blast damage all rolled into 1 character. when you consider the changes to casting delays not sharing the same timers and a 25% damage to frost nova it will be even better. [gear suggestion, deaths fathom, nightwings veil, enigma, spirit, trang glove, 1 soj, 1 rare fcr ring, arachnid mesh, maras or crafted amulet.] you could even swap for a 15% frost nova ormus for overkill. the only advantage this build has is breaking certain immunities but with the standard ereapers toll, gface, fort/treachery might merc 1-2 shotting most immunes anyway the kill speed difference is miniscule in most areas (except that second baal wave that's horrid)
Sadly it is impossible to spawn both +3 to Warmth and +3 to Lightning Mastery as well +3 to Frozen Armor, Thunderstorm and Energy Shield due to mechanic that staff mods cannot be more than three ters apart. That would be an ideal combo, but it is impossible in game mechanics.
Where can I find the single player files for this sorc build ?
Why ber in everything and not mana after kill? Will make ES unbreakable basically?
Coooley be using overscan on his monitor?
Wouldnt Infinity be better than Obsession with the 55% Lightning Reduction on top of Conviction? And Insight on the merc would make this even more tanky. Would probably be a frame slower tho...
Yes infinity+insight works very well too (even now without the synergy dmg from static). But 200fcr is just soo much fun :D I highly suggest going for or at least trying it out (easy to do with wizzy or suicide branch) if you try a nova build.
@@clouds5 Question for me would be: Besides the fun, whats better and more effective in 2.4: 200fcr with Obsession or 105fcr with Infinity?
@@markmauk8231 I'd say that depends on the situation. At a certain point regular mobs will die with 1-2 novas, in P1-3 anyway. So at that point more fcr technically wins because you become more efficient teleing and killing. I use it situational. Like for keys/cows there is nothing better than 200fcr. But for tc85 runs etc I use 105fcr with almost 400mf (again p1-3). But if you're talking high players settings, LIs become a problem. Broken LIs still have a lot of resistance so for those mobs anything with -res will be a big improvement no matter what breakpoint. In those situations infinity or even crescent moon (-35lres I think) is huge. But then again cows don't have a lot of resistance so adding more absolute dmg is better (don't know the exact numbers but you get the point). Overall obsession with the right base will probably be a little better than hoto+spirit or wearing infinity (with Obsession +2/20fcr amu is a must and those are rare). But as soon as broken LIs are involved, infinity gives a full 55%dmg on top of everything compared to a couple hundred (?) more absolut dmg (from +skills), that still gets reduced heavily by the resistance of broken LIs. I think it's great design because it's a complex system and you have a few different options that all work great depending on the situation. For me personally I'll probably keep using a second element to solve the LI problem (atm Blizzard but hydra should be good!) and use 200fcr because it feels great. And then 105fcr/400mf for some of the fastest p1-3 solo runs.
@@clouds5 I dont play single player, so player settings are out of the question :-) Thx, that was a good answer!
is bear rune new with the patch, never heard of it
You have some very well-trained muscle memory. I like your gamestyle
Hey buddy how do you think this will be with the new synergies for Nova?
This is with the new synergies. He's on the 2.4 PTR.