Somerton Man body-on-the-beach mystery solved as family secrets unravel | Australian Story
Australia’s most enduring mysteries - the identity of the “Somerton Man” - is finally solved. Subscribe: ab.co/3yqPOZ5
When an unidentified man was found dead on an Adelaide beach in 1948, it was the start of one of Australia’s most baffling cold cases.
Simply known as the Somerton Man, he was found without documents and the labels ripped from his clothes.
With the Cold War as a backdrop, the mystery of his death inspired rumours and theories around the world.
More than seven decades later, DNA technology and forensic genealogy have combined to finally crack the case
In this Australian Story, the Somerton Man’s relatives speak for the first time about how they became involved in the mystery and give the unidentified man a name.
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They just identified the unknown boy in Philadelphia. He was called the boy in the box, because they found his beaten, naked body in a box in 1957. Through DNA technology they were recently able to identify him. They haven’t even release the name yet, but they said they will soon may he rest in peace
This is great news!!!
Thanks for sharing that.
I didn't know they solved that one - will definitely follow up on that. I remember some pretty dark eyewitness testimony about it...really hoping the truth wasn't as bleak.
I’ve been following the Boy in the Box story for over 20 years! This one for 10! So glad these people have names again.
Oh I’m glad you mentioned that bc I hadn’t heard anything about that either although I’m familiar with that one too. Interesting that both of them have been identified after so so long. I hope it’s just the beginning and will go on to be the case in many other unknown cases as well.
Holy shit, this one dude finds an article about a random unsolved mystery one day and ends up with a full blown family out of it??? This is crazier than the original story if you ask me
And all because he picked up a [probably way out of date[ magazine in the laundrette while doing his gear ...amazing
@@paulohagan3309 I have one I am involved in. Find an item in the sand, in the bush and then research to find the owner, the family. His history, his homes and life. 7 years of work with zero experience to start, to find his sister had lived within a few kilometers, and I had knocked on her door and probably spoken to her in my 30’s, but as a teenager also knocked on her door as a boy-scout. He was born in 1915, lost his item around 1947. Never married, no children.
@@paulohagan3309 Can you imagine how many things like this happen under anyone's conscious radar where serendipity is left completely unaware but only to the spirit world. And thus, why this one story is held up in the light like "an angel prayer answered" maybe a title to a poem...Carl.
My exact thought lol
Unlimited rizz
I think that nurse gave him her number in order to help him. She sensed his suicidal tendency and thought maybe a talk would help him. There weren't suicide helplines back then. She kept quiet afterwards to avoid any awkward questions from her husband. Also it is easy for members of large families to in large countries to scatter and lose touch, especially if there was no desire to. During the 1930s my grandparents drove from Minnesota to Montana to find one of his brothers. They went to the town his last letter came from. They were told that he was an alcoholic and died in a car crash. No one knew how to contact any relatives.
What I don't understand is why his ex-wife never called in to the authorities to say who the guy was. His story was all over the news.
@@aewtx she`s not a good person then
@@aewtx we don’t really know the extent to which it made national news Melbourne and Adelaide are 730km odd from each other, it would surely take at least a couple of days for the photos to travel. it looks like she died in NSW so again the news might not have reached her for a while. Not to mention that it would be hard to identify someone from a black and white blurry newspaper photo of their body. Even if she did think it looked like him, would she have traveled the 900km to a place that she didn’t even know if he’d been to - just to see if she could ID the body, if it hadn’t already been interred?
I think you are robablynright about the nurse wanting to help him somehow. A very poignant story about your grandparents and his brother. How sad when they found out what had happened.
@@aewtx there's a good question
I can’t believe in the space of a few months they have solved the case of the boy in the box, somerton man AND the Lady of the dunes. These cases all got me hooked on true crime and cold cases, and I never expected one would be solved, let alone all 3. Edit: they haven’t solved the lady of the dunes entirely, but they have found her identity!
I didn’t know they solved the lady in the dunes!! Ty for the comment, I can’t wait to read and learn about her. Her story always stuck with me.
Wait I've heard they solved the Sommerton Man and Boy in the box, but the Lady of the dunes too? Wow
@@KyraWS I suppose it’s not completely solved, but an identity has at least been found!
They also solved the murder of the 2 girls from a few years ago that snapped a pic of their killer on Snapchat. I forget the names of the girls unfortunately since I just learned about it a few months ago from Anna unsolved here on KZhead
@@harleykiriluk1556 Abigail Williams and Liberty German.
All the buzzfeed episodes being solved!! I appreciate ryan and shane for exposing the stories I wouldn’t probably have ever heard about
This! It’s really a full circle moment.
That's what I was thinking too! Wonder what will be next?
Yup that's exactly what I though, I remember learning through all those cases from that show.
*stories
@@juliebraden6911 sorry Julie glad you corrected me I didn’t realize my phone likes to tell me what I should write maybe I should proofread better. Not sure a KZhead comment would bother you so much sorry about that Julie.
What a sad ending to such a great mystery. My heart breaks for poor Charles Webb, he obviously had some sort of mental crisis going on. The saddest thing is that his immediate family had all passed and nobody reported him missing. May Mr Webb RIP. Well done Professor Abbott, your dedication to this case not only solved it but it brought you and Rachel together, a beautiful love story that may not have happened if you weren’t drawn to this case.
His family may have passed but his death brought two people together who have three children that wouldn't have been born without him. They're his descendants in spirit.
@@MoniMoniDeMonika I love that!
Great determination ,my respect to everyone that worked hard to find out the origin of these man. GOD BLESS your all .
Meanwhile, the police and detectives holding all the evidence and his remains are still working on confirming if he is indeed Charles Webb. LOL!
Well said. I feel the same way. I'm so glad they solved this mystery. It's a great story in so many ways.
I can't believe they found both the Sommerton man and the Boy in a Box in a matter of weeks from each other. Hopefully more missing person's cases will be solved using this method
Yes, both Sommerton Man and Boy In The Boy. Being identified and name being revealed in 2022. Carl Webb (The unknown man in Adelaide, the name not 100 percent confirm) and Joseph Augustus Zarelli (The unknown boy in Philadelphia)
And the Lady of the the Dunes at the same time as well!
Somerton man is unconfirmed, all of the evidence is circumstantial
An interesting one is a redhead young woman I think they refer to as Becca who was found dead by suicide in a hotel room. There was a picture of her with a man in the room but they haven’t been able to find her even with a picture which I find pretty bizarre like someone must know her
The fact that the professor met the love of his life through this case makes me believe that the universe does have a plan
Lovely wasn’t it?
@@ej8966 OK Captain Negativity
@Mimimi The universe is not sentient. Your desire for woo woo is silly. Sir Andre LeWhatever thinks that rationality is the same as negativity. That's sad AND funny.
The fact you at some stage considered it does not tells me you have little understanding of the fabric of this world. This is NOT an insult, very few do. The simple version is EVERYTHING is connected, the not so simple one... well, that's a literal encyclopedia. Be well, stay connected, love the journey & the learning. (HINT : the technology - it's ANTI-connection [DON'T "stay connected" as "they" say]) Namaste
Metaphysical blankets for children’s comfort.
It’s honestly so sad no one reported him missing, I’m glad he has his name back
it is from 1948 !!! , i was surprised that woman was that dumb she is older should know more about techology and social views basically, it was normal to severe family ties because there was no tech to keep in contact , you could write letters to hold contact but you could start new life specially in another country or even different city , also police often times dont accept missing grown ups even nowadays and even had they accepted the papers of missing can go missing ,also it was politically chaotic era
@@MyClip456 He wasn’t reported missing because even very old members of the family had never heard about a missing relative. One of the family being interviewed with his son/grandson looked at least 70 and had not heard anything from his parents about their sibling/cousin being missing.
But now the mystery and case is no longer interesting. It was a fascinating case with all the possibilities but now it’s like hmm
One thing I would posit, is that back then, you didn't talk about family issues. If they knew he was abusive/depressive and he vanished, there might have been relief. Who knows if his mom/dad didn't spin a story about him going overseas and truly believed it. Community scrutiny was incredible back in those days. I could see why they'd have let him go, sad though that is.
@@Madamegato Exactly! You didn't air your dirty laundry back then. If he was a problem and a embarrassment to the family, he wouldn't have been missed, and they simply wouldn't talk about him from that point on. My grandmothers sister was an alcoholic, she had two children when her alcoholic husband left her, and then she just disappeared one day after dropping the kids off at my grandparents house. They raised the kids as their own and never spoke of her agian. I didn't know any of this until she died and needed to be claimed 40+ years later. My mother and I were the only ones who went, it was quick and quiet, nothing in the paper. Buts that's how they did it back then.
It's wild how much the relatives they found look like him, that's so cool
I was thinking the same, the surfer looked a lot like him
He lives on.
Yeah especially Stuart!
they all look totally different.
Yep. Those facial features are strong
I appreciate the non-relative of Charles Webb admitting that the paintings in her living room are creepy and destined to be donated. That takes a lot of honesty. The unexpected love story attached to this investigation was really heart warming even if Mr. Webb's story turned out to be quite sad. This was an enduring and fascinating mystery nonetheless.
She should give them to Charles Webb's relatives.
I was surprised at her candor too, but I totally agree with her, and would not want those paintings in THE PLAYROOM!!!!!
I understand her wanting to get rid of Charles Webb's painting, but what is creepy about a painting of your grandmother??? That's something I'd certainly cherish and want to keep.
@@slgleaton375 Maybe they are a set? I found the painting of Charles creepier, personally. I think it wouldn't be as bad if the artist had used a three-quarter view.
I would have thought she'd want to keep the one of her grandmother at least. But given the context, I guess I don't blame her.
It sad to hear a person can die and not be missed by anyone. It was good to hear that some care and they buried him with respect.
It’s not so sad when you hear he was violent. I’m fairly sure his wife was glad he was gone, but spent her life looking over her shoulder afraid he’d come back.
@@PuppyCuddler oh come on. Even now, a huge amount of women have suffered violence at the hands of a partner and it was so, so much worse then. I’d be willing to bet she was telling the truth. I’d also love to know what your definition of her being bad is too. What kind of “bad” means someone deserves violence from their partner?
@@PuppyCuddler I didn’t say I did know for sure. I do know that the odds are in credibly high that she’s telling the truth for various reasons. Again, what does “she might have been bad” really mean?
Good. No one should missed an abuser like him
it's not that no one looked for him - back then it wasn't easy to contact family that had scattered around the world .. we see it as possible only bc we have soooo many things that can help us easily find our people but again think of exactly why phones and such were made, to do just that and make it easier. i bet his family did miss him and maybe did try but gave up home after nothing followed
I’m American and I’ve been super interested in this case since I was fourteen. Md respect to that professor, and the unexpected little love story was really sweet. I’m glad they found out who he was
right?
My Uncle has been apart of the life saving crew on that beach for 40 years and it's insane to me that people all over the world know of that beach in my tiny little town because of this mystery. It blows my mind, especially channels on youtube that have millions of views 🤯
The family resemblance between Stuart Webb and Charles Webb is undeniable - Stuart even has the same dental anomaly (missing upper lateral incisors). It's a wonderful thing that Charles Webb got his identity back, congratulations to all those whose dedication made this possible.
Yes I saw that guy and immediately thought "that guy is a relative"!
Same ear type...
How do you know about the dental anomaly?
@@The.answer.is_42_ ....you're looking at the video, right?
@@The.answer.is_42_ I watched the video too and there is no mention of a dental anomaly. Was this inferred by the video?? Just asking.
I have to admit that I think it's really sweet and touching that this case brought two people together and allowed them to start a family, all beginning from a case that served as a mutual interest and passion between them. It's definitely a unique story in regards to how a couple first met. I'm glad that they can have a good sense of humor about it as well. :)
That’s one way to get a DNA sample from her.
‼️ I think the biggest question is who was that nurse and why was her address in that book of poetry. Why did she refuse to speak to the police? What was going on there? Clearly there was some connection between them or her address wouldn't have been written in that book. And why did he toss that book in the back of a random car after taking what he wanted from it? Why not just to keep the whole book on him unless he was deliberately trying to create a mystery? Maybe he was trying to protect her? Possibly she loaned him the book and he didn't want her getting involved in his death so he just tossed it in a random car. But why wouldn't he just toss it into a trash can instead? Maybe the book helps you much sentimental value for him to directly throw it in the trash? Why did she refuse to speak to the police? There was something going on there I don't know what it was. I wonder if she was having an affair with the somerton man. And that was why she didn't want to talk to the police.
@@WhitneyDahlin Could be that many of your thoughts on the case are true. It really is a shame we will never really know, but it's still interesting to think about. I guess you could say that since all we can do is speculate that it only makes not knowing all the more frustrating. I know in some ways for me it does, but I have serious OCD that has literally gotten worse over the years, so I tend to obsess about that kind of stuff already anyway.
I was a teen, when I first heard about this case. Over the last 45+ years, it occasionally came up again. It is nice to hear that they've given him his name back.
We are in the age of answers
@@whitedragoness23 Yes, we are.
@@whitedragoness23 Some wrong, but hey still answers!
@@whitedragoness23 A lot of cold cases are getting solved, the 2020s are gonna be wild for technology and advancements.
Saying forensic genealogy is a game changer doesn't quite do it justice.... the number of cold cases that have been solved and John & Jane Does that have been identified in the US over the past few years is absolutely amazing. I was hoping it would start being used to solve cases here in Australia, so after following the Somerton Man case for many years it's brilliant to see the technology give Charles back his identity after so long. RIP Charlie.
Life before the internet and science, a whole different world.
I'm glad that it was used in a Canadian cold case recently. Very glad that the monster who raped and murdered Susan Tice and Erin Gilmour is about to face justice for what he did. I really wish that more Canadian murders can be solved. We've got so many murdered Indigenous women where I feel forensic geneaology can be used to crack many of their cases. And who can forget what happened to Leah Sousa? Or what happened to little Sharin Morningstar Keenan to name a few famous Canadian cases.
People often comment "why bother?", forgetting if anything in this world, at the very least, dignity of a person, famous or not, rich or poor, it is the very least we could gave to one another. Nobody deserves to be buried as " jane/john doe".
Except the police won’t admit it’s him because they didn’t solve it
Yep and that guy who didn't want to upload his dna doesn't realize that his sisters would be enough to identify him should he commit a crime
That Charles ended his life alone, with no identity, on a deserted beach, in a city where he didn't belong, must have indicated how he viewed himself in this world. He believed that he was a nobody, who belonged to nobody, with no place to call home. His is a sad story.😔
Except I hope the last thing he saw was a glorious sunset over the sea. May he rest in peace.
@@Org80 Life is worth living. you can instead go to another place and live. Legally change your name if you wish. But life is the precious gift. Don't let spoilers win. Leave them in their heck hole and move on to real life! I wished for death then got in a spot where I wanted to live to get out of hell. you do the same. it's worth it. There's someone counting on you and you need to find the. Love and peace.
@@Org80 Are you a Scientologist? There's more to life than that. No one can tell you how to feel. If you feel that way that's how you feel Just know that God knows who you are and God loves you. ❤️
@@Org80 There is a better alternative, a way to pass from death to life. Jesus said, " I am the Way, the Truth and the Life." Find a Bible and read the Gospel of John. Turning from sin and turning to Jesus with a living faith in His sacrifice for you will give you a new life- you will pass from death to life. You will be a new person. You will see and feel differently. Praying for you.
What's so sad there are hundreds walking around today in the same condition.
My birth mom disappeared when I was 4, and I was adopted out. At that time, she was pregnant with a son, who would be my only "full blood" relative in this world and my brother. I think I will never know what happened to her and my brother. It's sad. Her name was Jane Davis, she had a twin sister who died in her 30's from colon cancer, Caucasian, and boy baby would have birthed in Ft Worth, Texas around 1976 - 1978. He almost certainly was adopted out at birth. I guess each of us carry around unresolved mysteries and longing.
Do a genealogy study like Ancestry or 23and me. If you haven’t already. That is always a start. But also census record are public. So look into them for Texas in that year. You might get a hit on her name.
Don't give up your search. There are answers out there. I hate to recommend anyone get their dna done, but I did and by doing so, I finally found my mother's biological father. My mother wondered her whole life and died not knowing his name. But I know now. She looked so much like him. I have no idea if he ever even knew about my mother, but I know his name now and his family has been so kind and helpful in answering questions. These kinds of things can be a minefield sometimes, so be mindful of that, but never give up. This is your story and your genetic inheritance. Don't be afraid to claim it. Keep us updated on your search - you will be in my prayers and highest hopes. 💚
If he was born in Fort Worth and placed for adoption, there's a good chance his adoption was handled by the Gladney Center. It might be worth contacting them, especially if you know your birth mom's full name.
You have some really great starting points. If she kept the baby to term, you may have some luck. I recommend the surrounding counties in addition to the Gladney Center. If she had an obit or death certificate, checking the area around Dallas County may still prove fruitful. I really hope you get some answers.
DNA / Genetic Genealogy
Amazing how much his distant relatives alive today look like him. The family resemblance is striking. Glad that DNA evidence is being used to help solve mysteries like this. Kind of annoying to me that the police have yet to confirm anything. They would know by now, but are just sitting on it, possibly to try and discredit the Professor who worked tirelessly his whole life to solve a mystery they couldn’t. Well done professor for sticking to the case and giving this man a name.
I agree with you. The police knew they didn't have absolute resourses to dig deep as the Professor had. He devoted his life to this and the police refused him any access to the body. That truly sucks. What was their motive?
I immediately thought that too!!
I assume the police just don't care and are busy with more active cases. Not a great excuse but wouldn't surprise me.
Yeah. But it's odd that they look like the Carl Webb that's in the picture, the dead man does not look like anyone.
Poor guy. I'm glad we have photos of him alive and smiling after years of wondering over that autopsy picture.
Well done Professor not only have you solved the puzzle but you got yourself a very beautiful wife and 3 great kids. I'm so happy this man now has a name and a big family. The brother who found the family photo, bears a striking resemblance to Charles. Many Blessings from Victor Harbor SA 🌻
I LOVE that they got married the next day and now are happy with three kids. With all the mystery surrounding this case a beautiful love story fits perfectly!
The fact that nobody from his family looked for Charles but in a way, he helped create another family is making me cry.
don't assume nobody looked for him, missed him, thought about him - tools for finding him would have been very limiting for a rural family in 1948 - hell, they had a hard time making the connection in 2022 and even today the Adelaide police haven't signed off on it.
It is so great that this man finally has a name, Charles Webb. And the resemblance between the relatives, especially Stuart Webb is striking! I would like to think now that we can back up the short walk from Somerton Beach to Glenelg beach, and solve the mystery of the Beaumont children. We can but only hope and pray.🙏
@@derklavierspieler7491 He experienced the mystery and maybe romance of his life and demise. We should be thankful that science can solve something so tenuous.
@@derklavierspieler7491 You could well have a point, but it as it has been such an iconic mystery in Australia for so long, I feel a sense of closure.
@@derklavierspieler7491 Who knows what he wanted. People cut tags out of clothes because they are itchy not because they want to be buried as a Doe.
@@derklavierspieler7491 his family deserved to know, they matter too
I am so glad that he's not a Doe anymore. It sounds like he was pretty troubled, fighting depression... good chance that the illness was the reason why he went to the beach without any identification on him. Depression lies, makes one believe to be a burden to everyone, that the world would be better off if one would just dissappear. As for the tags - most of my clothes are missing their tags because I find them annoying, they tend to itch or are in the way. And it's fascinating how the genetic trait of the missing upper lateral incisors gets past on for so many generations. My sister and I have the same trait, but none of our living family members. I don't think I'm familiar with the case of the Beaumont children, gotta look that up.
Wow, KZhead recommended this episode to me this morning and I'm amazed and thankful to YT for letting me know this great mystery ive been fascinated was finally solved. Rest in peace, Charles Webb. the Somorton man , after all these decades, you got your name back.
I think poor Carl just wanted to be no one and went to some lengths to let us know that. But perhaps it was out of desperation because he felt like a no one that he wanted us to try really hard to keep looking for him until he was someone again.
FINALLY!!! I've known about this poor guy for a long time now. And I never thought they'd figure it out. I'm so glad that he has a name now!! I was always intrigued by his story, and checked now and then for any updates. Thank you for helping this poor guy!!
I remember coming across his story a few times over the years. Now we can chuckle over the crazy hypotheses that popped up too.
@@SlickArmor 😂!!! You got that right!! They were crazy!
@@riverdeep399 WHAT????
@@SlickArmor Everything but 'it was aliens' it seems!
This man is the reason they found each other and formed a beautiful family. They were meant to be together. Such a great story!!!
Such admiration for Prof. Abbott's work on bringing this mystery to an apparent conclusion. I do agree that ultimately it should be the Coroner who makes the final determination as to the evidence of the Somerton Man's identity but I suspect such credible research by a clearly very objective researcher (one who is more than willing to dismiss his own working hypothesis in the light of scientific evidence) will be welcomed at any inquest. A remarkable story and lovely to see the families embrace their connections with Charles and show him such respect as an individual while acknowledging his part in Australia's cultural history. RIP Charles Webb.
Yes I saw and read a lot of rude remarks about him and his wife but I don't think this case would have moved forward as it did without him
22:10 "This was a person" "he wasn't just an unsolved mystery, he was our family" - well said
The Somerton man case is sad, but can I just say, that my heart was warmed by the fact that the professor and the supposed granddaughter got married and had a family? if he is her grandfather, he can rest in peace knowing his family is larger because of him, and I like that.
Turned out she's of no relation, *but* I think Jo might have dated him for a short time and didn't talk to police because it might have been a toxic relationship, similar to the one with his ex-wife.
If you'd watched the programme you'd know the professor's wife is not related at all to Carl aka Charles Webb, The Sommerton Man.
Yeah, found it out as I watched, but I had that eensy bit of hope for a bit, so, eh, at least I was optimistic!
@@ria1636 It's still a very neat way to meet your partner: while investigating a cold case!
I'm an Aussie American and I've followed this case for a long time. It's sounds like Mr. Webb was just a relatively normal guy who happened to become enshrined in history. For some reason, his story reminds me SO MUCH of Henrietta Lacks. Obviously Henrietta isn't a major mystery, but she was just a normal woman, who when she died, just happened to play a role in saving billions of lives (Polio, AIDS, pretty much every vaccine ever invented). Both Mr. Webb and Mrs. Lacks died without knowing what a massive impact they had on the world.
So… other than them both being deceased humans that a relatively small amount of people are currently aware of, what of one reminds you SO MUCH about the other? Nothing else at all is similar between the two.
And unfortunately, school systems never taught people about Henrietta because she was an African American woman who was smarter, stronger, and better than any of them and did save thousands of lives, and continues to do so today.
@@zoeylammers3820 you're wrong. Not surprising by your toxic words. Many people were taught about her and other countless black historical figures. Idk what hick school you went to but in modern cities, we dedicate a whole month to black History.
It was not “just so happened”. Henrietta’s medical information and her genetic material were taken without her knowledge much less consent and used in medical advancements while she received no compensation
An aussie american>
My great uncle went to Canada, and disappeared. We never found out his fate, and the family didn't have enough money to pay for private investigations. It was so sad and to this day we'd love to know what happened to him. We just pray that he didn't die alone or in bad circumstances, and that he is buried somewhere where someone, maybe, tends his grave. We pray someone loved him, or at least that he had a decent burial. He was born in 1894, and went to Canada in 1912; he disappeared in 1913, and nobody heard from him after that. If only, even now, we could know his fate 😥.
Try doing a genetic genealogy test
Aliens for sure
@@ianshwaite690 No, that's the one possibility we definitely dismissed, the aliens were busy in Roswell for the whole of 1913. Plus the fact that I'm talking of the real disappearance of a real relative, which was a real sadness to my family.
Do a DNA test. I am American but found cousins in the UK and such
@@nothingelse1520 That is an excellent idea, and thanks for being kind enough to reply❤. We have done this, but the problem is that Uncle went to Canada with his brother, also my great uncle, who married, and the brother's children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren still live in Vancouver, Toronto and Quebec. So, those are the contacts that showed up! Sadly, the brothers, although great pals, didn't stay together, but separated to find their fortunes and lost touch. So I have one half of the two who went to Canada known about, and I have cousins, but the other Uncle is lost😥. It makes me sad because the 3rd brother, who stayed in England, was my beloved and irreplaceable "Uncle J", the uncle who we knew in Canada was also loved greatly, but poor uncle number 3 .........? And the brothers were so close and loving.
There are many men like Charles Webb who slip through the net and feel alone and suicidal. We must take more care of eachother and get help for those family and friends with mental health issues.
Yes ppl always say this when something bad happens to them' but in reality most ppl don't give a damn.. especially those in authority ' the police and the council are the worst offender's..and I know from experience....
What "net"? There is no net... LOL, society values us not my lady, and quite frankly... so what.
He wasn't alone - his wife was a person who no doubt did her best to help him while being abused by him according to the documented history. Let's acknowledge her efforts before we say he was alone.
Maybe the best help is to let them end their lives on their terms and not shame them for not wanting to exist.
@@margaretcundall9637 well I was speaking about those that do want to kill themselves. Obviously if you don’t want that then we should give those people more resources to lead a happy and healthy life. As far as abuse is concerned I worked at a mental health facility and there’s no greater abuse than being locked up like an animal and subjected to abuse by the staff. Funny how we give the dignity of euthanasia to our pets who are suffering but human beings are expected to live with all sorts of suffering with no dignified way out.
When you realise that the biggest unsolved mysteries in the world happen because relatives just don’t bother to report their family missing .. it’s sad
Sadly true
“Everyone who was involved in this case thought that something would come up tomorrow….but tomorrow never came” That’s so poignant, as the weeks go on it concerns me that this will be the fate of the Idaho murders also.
I'm from Idaho but living abroad now and I keep checking to see if there's any updates on that case, but nothing... Things like this don't happen in Idaho either so it's very concerning. Hoping with modern technology that the police will be able to catch the suspect(s) soon
Did they ever find who killed the young Idaho solo farmer? His mother just broke me heart
There's certainly no denying the likeness between Charles and Stuart Webb! It's really quite chilling to understand that it's possible to go from a happy looking, large family gathering to anonymously dead and unmissed in the space of 20 years!! It just goes to highlight not just the fragile nature of life itself, but also the relationship ties that do so much to keep us all hanging in there. It does remain very intriguing as to how Jo Thomson links in with his last days but I imagine that that will now always have to remain a matter of speculation only. In the end though, it is nice that he's finally got his name and, just as importantly, his smile back. RIP mate 🌹
I agree, I saw the resemblance immediately!
So good to finally put an identity on that body. The passing of his parents and brother meant that no one really missed him and he was able slip away unnoticed by loved ones. The scrap of paper he kept in this pocket was a nice touch.
Yea that paper was. It was eerie, sad and puzzling all at once
This is heartwarming to see the closure finally. None should be left as unknown. We all deserve a name no matter what. This has been such a long running mystery. The new DNA tech and family ancestry contributions have been tremendous in solving such cases.
I've heard of this for so long, but I am glad that such a sad person, who wrote poetry and lost loved ones....is finally known. It is nice to know he had a large family, and that he is now a memory for family members and much of the world.
OMG! I've waited so long for a resolution to this case!
Well look. In the end he was never ever forgotten. More people devoted more time, passion, care, to identifying this man and telling his story, than almost anyone else gets. I'm glad he's been identified and his story has been told. One of adelaides tales has finally been concluded.
I trust the professor more than I trust the police. Fascinating and outstanding work.
We know he was poisoned - we just don't know whether it was accidental. From his 1921 photos, he seemed happy. From his college photos in 1918 he seemed a bit depressed. The part of his life not covered by the documentary was that he was working in the Red Point Tool company - making drills until Dorothy had a maintenance order forcing him to pay £1 10s. That Dorothy wanted a divorce in 1951 because she was pregnant. She later married Geoffrey Lockyer but lost the child and then lived in Bute. That baby Lockyer is buried a short distance from Carl.
@@derklavierspieler7491 She was pregnant with Geoffrey Lockyer's child in 1951 whom she later married and then later moved to Bute with from Port Warwick after their new house was built. They lost the child December 1951 and the child is buried near Carl's grave. The urgent reason for her divorce in 1951 was the child was on the way. The Webb family also had no problem having children after death - Roy Webb had a child Brenda in December 1946 - according to her birth certificate although he was dead in 1943. His wife Ruby said it wasn't hers.
@@Stephanie-we5ep it was a joke. It is simply stated on her birth certificate - possibly a lie for a child to have a father and inherit money. She did inherit £3000 - after Ruby died - which was a lot of money in those days. After her mother died she was adopted away from her Webb/Gavey family. But she followed in the steps of uncle Charlie and died at a relatively young age taking barbiturates. The Gaveys were a criminal family so it may be Ruby wanted Brenda to escape their influence. The Gaveys had gun scenes in banks in very scary bizarre stories.
@@Stephanie-we5ep I think he was being sarcastic and what he meant was that it was common at the time to add new members to your family by just declaring them to the authorities as being the child of so and so. It was common practice in Europe after both world wars - orphans of friends were absorbed into families this way. Often their date of birth was changed to fit the narrative too.
Wait, Dorothy wanted a divorce in 1951 because she was pregnant by another man?? In my opinion she wanted a divorce because her Husband had by 1951 be missing for 3 years 😅 Or have i missed something?
Also where can we find all this information on the case?
I’ve always wondered what happened to this man. I wish we had all the answers. Can you imagine sitting down on a beautiful beach and dying and nobody knows who you are? Sad.
He made sure his identity was hidden. Why cut he tags out of clothing?
I feel like maybe he didn't want anyone who knew him to find out. Like even in death, he just wanted to be left alone 😔
I do believe the words on the tomb of the unknown........"known only to God"....and BTW, I like your nic, that was quite a movie.
@@2degucitas at least some of the clothing were second hand, hence the name T Keane on them. Thomas Keane was actually his brother in law. It was quite common at that time though for people to remove tags when they were donating clothing. Some people also have sensory processing disorders where they can't tolerate the feeling of tags against their skin. I think the removed tags are less likely to be him trying to hide his identity, otherwise he wouldn't wear clothes with his brother in laws name on them.
@@Littleone124 very insightful about the sensory disorders and the clothing tags.
I'm not surprised his family never spoke about him or passed down the story. That generation was secretive
I can say the same for the generation of my family born around the same time. I have no idea what my grandfather looked like, and I only know his name because my uncle is his junior. I don't even know the first name of the man my granny later divorced (but kept his last name). I didn't know her brother helped take Berlin in WWII until *after* he died. My granny's genes were so strong both her children and all of her grandchildren look just like her. And she coulda lied and said Little Debbie was based on her and I woulda believed it. It's jarring seeing that mascot. lol
that generation? i called it The Code of Silence. lots of terrible things were never spoken of for generations... plural. thank god that is beginning to change.
And they still are trying to cover up considering they are trying to not admit he was a spy.
I find it a very satisfying story. That he was just a normal guy makes the whole story so much better in my opinion. Rest in peace, troubled Charlie.
I quite simply loved this piece. Excellent handling of the material. Kudos to all involved.
I actually worked at West Terrace Cemetery in Adelaide in the late 1990s and into the 2000s and was always fascinated with that grave and it's mysterious story surrounding it. West Terrace Cemetery in the heart of Adelaide was very very old and had many prominent people buried there so finding a grave like that, that had no answers, was fascinating to me. Glad family has been found.
Absolutely amazing, tireless dedication to this case...I sincerely wish that Adelaide's other cold case of the missing Beaumont children could be solved as well.
I hope that the mystery surrounding the Beaumont children are solved as well. It's about time that we find out what happened to them. How long has it been? Nearly fifty seven years, right? Do we know if the investigation is still open? I know that in my country, that there's no time limit to murder/disappeared cases. Not sure about Australia even though they are our southern cousins. There's another case that bothers me as well. Another Australian case. Though, I know it's not an Adelaide case. The Wanda Beach murders... as much as I hate saying that since I feel that it detracts from the victims and takes away their identities- I know that the killings are well known under that moniker. Would really like to know who was responsible for the deaths of these two poor girls.
Oh wouldn't that me so awesome?!
Hey, that's us @5:11 !!😄 This is a fantastic documentary, well done to everyone involved in making it
It’s remarkable the level of respect they gave this man in death.
Yrs, the same isn't even always shown to those living and who are suffering
@@janvdb9258 pppppppp
I am amazed that so many of these individuals have never heard of the case. I live in Minnesota (in the USA) and knew about this case 30 years ago.
It might be where they come from in Australia - ie Australia is about the same land size as the USA. He died here in Adelaide, and most people in Adelaide know about him, although maybe not the younger generations.
wisconsin too...but not everyone is a murder mystery gurus like us..lol
If you aren't into unsolved cases it's pretty easy to not know about them
@@angellover02171 yeah we don't get Australian crime in Indiana. Chicago close enough
The ABC also made a documentary about him in 1986. That could be why you knew about it. The retired detective was involved in that. Sadly, all the evidence they had kept in storage had disappeared some time after that so, when the case was revived again, there wasn't much they could use. Just the plaster cast with some hairs on it and the buried body itself.
It's great to hear that Sommerton man finally has a name. I think that the S.A police are dragging their feet with the official announcement, because it wasn't them who solved this mystery. If they'd done the DNA testing when they said they would, back when they exhumed the body, this could've been solved sooner. Hopefully, the coroner's office will get the job of formal identification done soon, so the Webb family can give Charles the funeral he deserves - even though it's 70 years later Rest in peace Carl " Charles" Webb. (AKA Sommerton Man.).🌹
No, it's just not definitive proof. There's a difference between what some dude says and what needs to be done by law enforcement.
@@taranullius9221 it's all in the DNA, DNA is DNA... it doesn't lie
@@taranullius9221 He’s not just “some dude”, he knew what he was doing and backed his findings up with actual evidence. DNA sequencing has become incredibly accurate, you can’t “cheat” because everyone on earth has a unique genetic blueprint, the only exception is with monozygotic (identical) twins. It will be great when the police forensic team verifies his results. If it were left to the cops we’d still be waiting. You make it sound like he just pulled a random name out of a hat, which is obviously not the case. I am a molecular biologist so I’m not just spouting off.. 😊🧬🧪🔬🧬
@@southernbridal I think Tara Nautilus is talking about the cause of death, perhaps
@@Vee_of_the_Weald they just might be, however it's not very clear . I guess it could be taken either way
The only issue I had with this is sometimes it felt like they were bashing the people who knew him for not looking for him or reporting him missing after he went missing when in reality he might've pushed everyone away, might've been a not very nice person to be around, maybe they didn't even have a relationship and weren't in each other's lives, etc and it wasn't them just "being mean" and "not caring about him" plus we have to remember all this happened well over half a century ago and things were different back then, it was much easier to lose contact, they didn't have the technology we have today, people often just dipped out (my dad graduated from high school in the early 1980's and he says as a teenager him, his brother, their friends and other people they knew would often leave without warning and drive or hitch hike to different states and be gone for days and weeks sometimes and that once he got out on his own due to the lack of technology he'd go months to years without seeing or talking to his loved ones and really the only form of normal communication they had was postcards or letters with the rare phone call thrown in there), police departments weren't in as much contact with each other as they are today if at all, etc. I know it's easy to make someone who died especially tragically out to be a perfect saint and that they were a victim but life, people and relationships are way more complicated then that 🤷🏻♀️ I sadly have a few family members that i'm not close with, that live all over the world and that I haven't seen or talked to in years so if what happened to him happened to one of them (or to me) I or them wouldn't have any idea and it wouldn't be because we didn't care or we're mean but because we just didn't know and couldn't know, hell one of my friends often goes off the radar for months on end (living off the grid in his camper) because he just likes being alone and out in nature sometimes and won't even tell anyone when he does it so once again him being gone for long periods of time is normal and wouldn't be cause for alarm so if god forbid something did happen to him odds are no one would do anything either not because we don't care or we're mean but because he does it normally, so it's not fair to judge the people around him because we have no idea what their relationship was like and don't have any of the details 🤷🏻♀️
Exactly! I was thinking the same thing. Especially since his wife said he was very violent. That may be why no one wanted to look for him. He may have just been a really bad person. I have a lot of violent family members that I like to stay away from.
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Definitely possible. Especially considering the state of his mental health, its likely he would have pushed the people around him away. Imo he may have removed his clothing tags so that he wouldn't be identified and it'd be less likely that people would find out what happened to him and feel bad for not noticing any signs and letting him push them away
I personally didn’t think they were bashing the relatives at all. I think they were just commenting that it was sad no one looked for him. Who knows, maybe someone did look for him back then, but just didn’t know where he’d gone, it wasn’t like they had the internet in those days, & different police forces didn’t reach out to one another. It was obvious he didn’t want finding because he removed everything that could identify him except the tie, maybe he felt it would save his family pain, or maybe he had fallen out with them. Also maybe if the police had done a countrywide search revealing the surname that was on his tie, he might have been identified sooner.
Well his sister Gladys died 1955, his sister Doris died 1956, his brother Roy died a POW. Both his parents predeceased him. His sister Freda died in 1964, I think? Idk about his brother Russell, tho.
What a great story overall, even though Charles Webb's life was really sad. But through this mystery, two people were brought together and this alone made me smile. The mystery also connected the entire Webb family in a unique way, and this is another legacy of Charles Webb.
I paused at 9 minutes. I'm not sure the revelation of who the Somerton Man was can top my shock at two strangers meeting to talk about this mystery and deciding to get married the next day. That broke my brain.
I'm 48 and an American and this case has always intrigued me. So awesome to have some answers!
@Florida Guy Because I've been following it for a large part of those 48 years.
So very sad, to be so alone. He must have suffered from depression. May he be at peace now.
the somerton man, the lady of the dunes, and the boy in the box. all identified in the same year. absolutely incredible.
I still remember when I found this case for the first time. I was a high schooler who still learning how to use the internet & interested in searching for mysteries. Then I look at this poor man's photograph in a thumbnail on one of mystery sites & clicked to read it. Years later, I find him again in a somewhat similar manner on this site, but with the mysteries solved in a very unexpected way. It's a sad, yet beautiful story. Thank you to the people who help Carl Webb & his family to find him back. May he rest in peace.
I only heard of this story a year or so ago. But these new details are very sad. He lost his mother, his father, a beloved brother and the end of his marriage. No wonder he was probably unhappy enough to commit suicide. Very very sad indeed. I am however glad that he finally has his rightful name back. Rest ln Peace, Charlie. 🌹😔🌹. 🐾🌈☮️🇨🇦
Seen another video that the nurse whose phone number was found in the book was questionned by police BUT was very much uncooperative, according to police reports (which I have not read, just for precision), the didnt push further because the cause was ruled a suicide and NOT a murder. So the theory was that Uncle Carlo was freshly divorced and up for a new start in a new city, things didnt go as planned (aka he was still depressed but now he was depressd at the beach, which sounds better but isnt), got the number for the nurse who distributed meds illegally as a side hustle (hence her non cooperation), and off he went at the nearby beach, pills in his stomach, watching the sunset one last time. The more romantic theory is that he had a relationship with her, his demons caught up with hi so she kicked him out. He took his stuff and some pills from the cabinet and went for a last sunset on the beach. The less romantic is that she gave him the pills because he was abusive. Either way the consensus seemed to be that the meds that poisonned him came from her, either willingly or not, and she didn't talk because she was either cheating on her husband or she was afraid to be arrested for murder.
but that was disproven, the researcher's wife was not related to him
@@joshuaguenin9507 it was disproven that she was charles descendant yes. Doesn't mean they didnt have a thing regardless.
I heard a theory that maybe jo Thompson was friends with Carls ex wife Dorothy and that Dorothy came to Adelaide to escape from Carl and start over. Carl may have come there to find her and was chasing down leads , and ended up with Jo’s phone number . Jo may have been reluctant to help police to protect her friend. I don’t remember where the theory came from but it’s super interesting either way
Great conclusion!
I think the nurse was side hustling pills
I never thought this case or "The boy in a box case" would be solved in my lifetime, they're tragic stories but cool to see. I would also like it if Lee Culter and Nicholas Barkley's cases could be solved too. I know there are thousands of cases but these two are two I haven't been able to forget.
I wonder. How did nobody report that boy missing? Grandparents? Uncles? The parents are guilty if you ask me. People speculate he may have been sold to another family or illegally adopted out. I wonder if he might have been kidnapped at birth?
The saddest part was that he died alone, nobody knew who he was, and nobody looked for him in his family.
The irony he thought nobody cared and we all tuned in anting to find his identity ♥️ wish I could time travel to hug him and tell him he’s not alone
I suspect, when he was alive, no one did care. He was violent towards his wife. She was probably glad he’d gone off somewhere (but I’m not suggesting she wished he was dead)
The way he seemingly removed the tailor labels from his clothes hints he might not have wanted to be found. Jo lived nearby and didn't want to talk to police. So she may have had a similar toxic connection to him as his ex-wife and didn't want to say something that might have made her look like a murderer (if he was abusive, it'd be taken as motive, for example).
Thanks to everyone who worked on this case especially the Professor.
Stuart Webb looks just like Carl Webb. I've been following this case for several years. So happy that Carl Webb has finally got his name back.
I’ve heard of this case but never heard about this update. So glad they cracked it. It reminds of a story about a lady found dead in Europe somewhere on a snowy mountain top. I can’t remember the details, but she too had her tags cut out of her clothing. She stayed at a hotel and everything seemed odd, so a lot of people thought she might be a spy. She was tall with short dark hair. Crazy.
Generally referred to as 'Isdal Woman', found near Bergen, Norway, in 1970.
Yes. Thanks!
Why do you spiced cut the tags out of their clothing? Which tags are they talking about and they talking about store tags? or designer labels on the inside? Or are they talking about their name inside the clothes.?
@@katrinat.3032 In Webb's case, those were the names of tailors he likely removed. It's very possible he didn't want to be found. He just didn't account for the "Keane" left on his tie in ink.
Katrina T . They’re talking about any tag on the inside of the clothing. You know, if there’s a designer tag on the inside collar or anywhere in the garment? All cut out.
Such a sad ending to this mystery. He was a lonely depressed man who died being as alone as he felt. And that led to him not being recognized despite being a nation-wide mystery....
I feel like the effort that was put into identifying this man, just shows the primordial sense of community as human beings have. I always think that way when I see a lot of money spent on salmon crimes it’s because we are in an innate human community and we want to protect each other subconsciously.
An amazing story, with a sad ending for Charles, but also a happy ending for the family
Somerton man decided a happy story was needed for his story.Perhaps now he can rest n peace.
If that is the word yes, “happy” to find his Family, still deeper feelings I’d suppose, behind his leaving this World. Maybe more grateful to know than actually happy. Gratitude they’ve finally found him.
Goosebumps and tears. I've heard about this mystery for years. It's a bittersweet resolution. I commend all the people who worked so hard on it. Rest in peace Charles ❤️
His family didn't reported him missing because he was so unpleasant to be around. In a way, they were relieved that he had no contact with them. Human relationships, especially familial, are complicated, resulting in both joy and utter sadness.
Finally! He deserved to be known. He has his place in the world.💪🏾
The divorce description of violent tendencies coupled with the alienation of friends and family make me wonder if he had a traumatic brain injury, possibly from playing football. Erratic behavior can become worse and even dangerous over time. The decline in behavior can be slow enough that people don't link it to the original injury. Sadly this happened to my husband.
Good thought because I had over my life more than seven incidents of a injury then at work one more at over 54 I suddenly have a mental health situation …..it’s hard for dr to get assessment I am a walking nut job lol each day different but sometimes um ok briefly but less focus and knowledge speech comes and goes lol big changes .. oh big anger changes …early onset alziemers is a finding
Someone better tell Ryan and Shane that these cases are getting solved, this man, the boy in the box and the lady of the dunes!!! And I’m happy that the new technology are having some closure to these cold cases. May they Rest In Peace
It is heartbreaking story, but yet slightly comforting that now he has his name back. I am still wiping the tears off my cheeks and out of my eyes. I guess I'm just a silly sentimental older guy.
Compassion, empathy, and sentiment are strengths, not silliness. Having them does you credit.
@@annedavis3340 Amen 🙏
No, God Bless you. It's joyous for him to have his name back. Loving people love people.
@@CaseyAvalonbeautifully said
Not silly at all. Kindness is something you can wrap yourself in with pride.
Finally, Thanks to this team, the Somerton man has a name ! Sad story but cleared of crime théory. Congratulations
Omg, this case has haunted me for years, I wish they also solve the case of " the boy in the box".
They have discovered who the boy in the box is. But they won't announce it until next week for some reason! Look up Philadelphia news!
whoever edited/directed this video did a splendid job. from raising curiosity, to tugging at our heartstrings, to the sadness of depression and anger to domestic violence. and the last tidbit of comedy. it was all wrapped up into a very engaging story.
I always said to myself, "how could nobody recognize him." This is the late 40's. No TV. No national newspaper. When you take that away it is a very small radius. Once the immediate family has passed, the newer generations would have no reason to suspect anything. With that said, that nurse was FOS.
FOS?
Finally! An identity! Amazing work done by Prof. Abbots! So cheers to him and all the other people involved one way or another in this case!
What a great story! As an amateur genealogist, I can attest that it is common for serious investigators to discover interesting family stories, long forgotten. My own family is no exception, and I’ve done family histories, almost always with interesting results, for several friends.
Same! I found some serious family secrets I maybe wish I hadn't! And everytime I found an answer....I just found more questions! It's fascinating to do genealogy though for sure
How does one begin to do this?
@@brynbailey7132 I'm glad that we have a chance to escape from the sins of our ancestors, that's for sure, and that the same is true for our descendants.
@@michaelshea5165 very true, great point. I'm very glad my dad worked very hard to break some of those family patterns he was raised with. Made my own upbringing so much different than his own. I am thankful for that.
@@xXemuXx using a website like ancestry or family search makes it quite easy. I prefer ancestry personally but there is a subscription fee. You don't need to do the dna testing, it's separate. You do have to be careful and find sources that validate info in your "hints" (birth, death, or marriage certificates, old newspaper articles, etc) as there is a lot of incorrect info that people blindly connect to their trees. It's quite addictive and fascinating though!
You know what's a bit sad? We keep having to 'research' our dead relatives, our family trees, partially (but not only) because we neglect to maintain relationships with them when they're still alive.
Or ask questions about their lives.
That’s partially true, but people keep many secrets.
I did research into dead relatives but let me assure you that they were quite dead long before I came into the world. Mostly because I wanted to know which members of my family participated in the two world wars... which surprisingly was many of them.
I come from 2 huge families... and have contact with very few. Sadly, family drama that happened before my birth caused rifts that were never resolved. I don't blame my ancestors for cutting relationships with people they found toxic. They had to make the best choices for their own lives.
This case is really enduring. Not just the fact that someone has finally found him and I did find him, but the fact that people even cared enough to keep this case going. There are so many Jane and John Does and forgotten people. May he rest in peace
I’ve been wondering about the poor guy since I found out about him decades ago. So sad
This makes me cry thinking of this man losing so much in such a short time. He deserves the best in burial and for his living family to find out what happened to him after he left and was found a year later dead on a beach.
Had a chuckle about the paintings at the end.. glad they solved this mystery. It’s interesting how our imaginations can paint an entire reality that never was..
Cant blame her. Also, while I dont know, how good the painting of her grandmother is, the 1 of Charlie is pretty bad. Ive know about this case about 30 years, I would recognize any of the photos of him any time in any context, but I would never have guessed that to be a painting of him.
I smiled too. Can understand why - the two paintings hanging together just represent a theory and now the theory is disproved it would be strange to keep the painting of Charles Webb hanging on the wall. I know that he brought the professor and his wife together in a roundabout way but there are limits.
No way, seriously?! I didn’t think this would ever have a conclusion!
I was going to say the troubled fool must have alienated his entire family, else why did none of them go looking for him or place a death notice after a given period. But a complete vacuum there seems impossible especially with the size of that family gathering in the picture. Am I ing things or is there a cover-up going on. Why don't the police come out with it? Why was that nurse so terrified? They couldn't convince or cajole her into testifying, maybe with a promise to keep it confidential till she died? What was her role in the saga once again. That nurse slipping through their fingers is one of the most unfortunate things about this quest. It certainly a beautiful, gracious, heart-rending production. My thanks to all involved in it.
I think that prior to the internet the difficulties with keeping in touch with people meant that no one thought it strange if a relative just up and left for good, particularly a troubled soul like Charles.
And still the Police haven’t cracked the case! Makes you wonder about the Beaumont children’s case. Perhaps the good Professor could take a look?
Everything makes sense and yet nothing does. WHY did no one report him? The family looked so happy in those pictures - surely there was at least one person who would've said "Anyone seen Charles?" Mind boggling.
.Sandy, family portraits are always pretend happy. he probably tried to reach out and people paid him dust and became isolated
@@PHlophe That's very sad indeed.
He was violent towards his wife. Why would she immediately alert anyone to his disappearance when it meant she could possibly be free? I’m also fairly sure they talked about much of the rest of his family dying not long before. There was no one that wanted, or could, report him missing.
There was an almost identical case in Ireland where a man removed all the labels from his clothes and all trace of where he'd come from, then commited suicide on the beach. I think this gives a clue as to why they both chose the beach. They clearly didn't want to be traced. Maybe didn't want the shame of suicide, who knows. But the one piece of evidence neither of them could dispose of was their bodies. Give people a problem and they often come up with similar solutions. They did it on the beach in the hopes the tide would come in and carry their bodies out to sea before they could be discovered. That's my theory about the beach part anyway.
@PCJ52 he was embalmed and frozen after he was found.
Coincidentally, my stepdad kept a copy of the Rubiyat in his pocket while a Prisoner of War in Burma.... He stated it saved his life.... Its only a small book with beautiful words...those words gave him comfort to survive .
I’m so excited for this one!!! I was going to sleep but now I must watch this one first!
Wish you could have been around in 58 Doctor and I did a Autopsy on a man washed up on the beach in Bowen he was a Mr nobody no labs in those days, also my Grandmother came from the Morris family, the ones that made the Morris Car in England, many thanks for your research, great to hear you never gave up all the best to the family lol 🎁
So so heartwarming that this case was able to finally have some answers. So happy the family can now know and remember Charles deserved some peace and now his entire family can have a sense of ease in knowing he is finally home! ❤
At 28:44 of this wonderful documentary, Charlie signed his name (I think), and it is a very happy use of characters, which seems unlike the sadness of his life story. I was in a bad relationship with my first wife, which was devastating to me while married, and in the divorce process, but I relate to the staggering depths of depression I was in. Lucky for me, my sons and my new wife pulled me back into appreciating myself and enjoying my new marriage and new life, away from the previous chaos. Charlie, we are brothers!
I think the guy said his grandma wrote the names
@@leen9860 I think I agree, it is a beautiful handwriting signature, not written in haste, almost feminine!
Wow. The minute I saw Stuart he was clearly related as he looked almost exactly like him. So glad that this case has been solved and that he can be put to rest and his family has some closure. Even if they didn't know about his case. Sometimes the craziest stories bring about the most beautiful unexpected results.
I ending up learning an internet friend of mine was a distant relative (cue it's a small world). I went to visit him a few years ago, and his maternal grandmother looked identical to my dad. The genes in that particular part of the family tree were really strong (which is hilarious, because I look like *my* maternal grandmother and so do her children, so I have no idea what my granddad looked like).