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ANTI-TANK MISSILES ONLY VS WW2 TANKS - How Well Can They Do? - WAR THUNDER

Thunder with Muffin
2023 ж. 3 Мам.
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Hey guys! Welcome back to the Thunder with Muffin channel. A new challenge in War Thunder is waiting for you in this video ATGM ONLY VS WW2 VEHICLES!!! Stay tuned!
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  • Considering that T-34s, Panzer IVs, and M4s served well beyond WWII in other countries during the Cold War, I bet there’s gotta be a few instances of them being hit by ATGMs. There’s also an instance where a T-34 memorial was used as a decoy in Ukraine

    @donovanchau3483@donovanchau3483 Жыл бұрын

    • Yeah I would think so too!

      @ThunderWithMuffin@ThunderWithMuffin Жыл бұрын

    • I heard that the T-34 is still in service with some African countries. I don't know if this is true or not.

      @alexshepherd1741@alexshepherd1741 Жыл бұрын

    • Yeah, it seems plausible a T-34 could have been hit by an ATGM in the Yugoslav wars.

      @news_internationale2035@news_internationale2035 Жыл бұрын

    • @@alexshepherd1741 the democratic republic of congo uses them - they work fine when all you're doing is depressing rebel groups and protesters

      @chocolatesandwichesofficia8445@chocolatesandwichesofficia8445 Жыл бұрын

    • There was an SU-100 in Syria that got taken out by a TOW missile. Or further back in the Yom Kippur War, Isreal was still using Sherman tanks (albeit many were upgraded ones) that faced the infamous AT-3 Sagger missile (Soviet Designation: 9M14 “Malyutka”)

      @MPdude237@MPdude237 Жыл бұрын

  • It seems to me that the fault of modern tanks is that they underestimated the danger of old tanks at the beginning of the round. They realized their situation too late, when they could do nothing, and were surrounded. The last T-90 played well, fighting to the last, but he was left alone, and there were too many opponents.

    @alexshepherd1741@alexshepherd1741 Жыл бұрын

    • Sometimes numbers are better than technology

      @enkhmunkh4763@enkhmunkh4763 Жыл бұрын

    • I was in T-80BVM, but yeah even if I had one shot every single one of them I didn't had enough missiles, if my teamates did a little bit more kills I may could winning that round.

      @colonel_cookies_@colonel_cookies_ Жыл бұрын

  • Can't believe that you are still coming up with interesting scenarios! Well done Mr Muffin!

    @johncee853@johncee853 Жыл бұрын

  • Am I the only one who uses anti tank missiles against air craft?

    @kriptic626@kriptic626 Жыл бұрын

    • If you are mentally challenged just say that

      @Chris-yy5pj@Chris-yy5pj Жыл бұрын

    • no

      @XxMrsalsatenangoxX@XxMrsalsatenangoxX Жыл бұрын

    • No

      @jadedketchup515@jadedketchup515 Жыл бұрын

    • No

      @yeetusmaximus8546@yeetusmaximus8546 Жыл бұрын

    • When I get there no

      @battleranger1202@battleranger1202 Жыл бұрын

  • this really does highlight how good the WWII puma is if used correctly i use it all the time and im almost at Tier 4 not to mention the artillery/spotting ability with a full crew

    @SuperDiablo101@SuperDiablo101 Жыл бұрын

    • Yeah, Puma's can punch well above their weight class.

      @admiraltee@admiraltee Жыл бұрын

    • Exactly. Puma and BT are too good to fight only on their own BR.

      @alexshepherd1741@alexshepherd1741 Жыл бұрын

    • yeah i got 2 nukes in it one at 9.7 and another at 10.7

      @n1co2017@n1co2017 Жыл бұрын

  • This unbelievably fun, thanks again muffin❤

    @oelholm@oelholm Жыл бұрын

  • Nice work Muffin! I love these new and creative ideas! (Maybe you could do something with the biggest planes vs the smallest planes?)

    @Walking654@Walking654 Жыл бұрын

    • yes

      @guy33@guy33 Жыл бұрын

    • Thank you!

      @ThunderWithMuffin@ThunderWithMuffin Жыл бұрын

  • The answer to your question is surprisingly yes! There's a video of a t-34 being used as a gun emplacement in Yemen getting struck by an ATGM, I found a copy here on KZhead; kzhead.info/sun/ZJuzfrNlh5aria8/bejne.html (Also great video!)

    @Azerton@Azerton Жыл бұрын

    • Thank you!

      @ThunderWithMuffin@ThunderWithMuffin Жыл бұрын

  • Suggestion: Best WW2 vehicles vs worst post WW2 vehicles This could maybe be done with 5 or 10 different vehicles on each side.

    @addygreen8919@addygreen8919 Жыл бұрын

  • WWII tanks and ATGMs have some equal level of visions... during the day that is. When night falls, ATGMs become nocturnal beasts and their maximum potential is formed like how Escanor is at full power when it is noon and depowered during nighttime.

    @insignificant3386@insignificant3386 Жыл бұрын

  • The reason the aim looks so shaky when you have replays is because it's footage recorded from the server, and the server doesn't compensate for the lag that people have when demos are recorded

    @Fizzyxd@Fizzyxd Жыл бұрын

  • great video man, you are so creative and you're such a good narrator. even improving as a narrator.

    @RadiantCataclysm@RadiantCataclysm Жыл бұрын

    • Thank you!

      @ThunderWithMuffin@ThunderWithMuffin Жыл бұрын

  • The war that most likely that ATGMs would have gone against WW2 era tanks is the Yom Kippur War in 1972. Also I guess the civil war in Yemen there was a case of an ATGM destroyed a T-34-85.

    @benpurcell4935@benpurcell4935 Жыл бұрын

  • i still remember colonel cookies from the heli vs drones video and tbh he plays it tactical and carefully really good

    @ghostgivesmilk@ghostgivesmilk Жыл бұрын

  • that truly was fun

    @goldenarmygames6936@goldenarmygames6936 Жыл бұрын

  • There are still T34s being used, in combat by Houthi rebels in Yemen, even videos on youtube. Also, M36s were still in use in countries until recently. Chaffees are still in use by a few countries, some M8 and M5s are still used in upgraded variants.

    @jlawsl@jlawsl11 ай бұрын

  • @Thunder Muffin, the only battle that comes to mind that closest resembles atgms vs. ww2 tanks would be yom kipper war. When Egypt used 1st gen atgms against Israel, who had m51 shermans, m48 pattons, and centurions. Although i dont know if any M51s were actually engaged by atgms.

    @Gearedfilm57@Gearedfilm5711 ай бұрын

  • Would have loved to bring my Cromwell RP3, just for some sweet sweet karma points.

    @nineonine9082@nineonine9082 Жыл бұрын

  • A hint to deal with missiles,bind a convenient key to the option to switch gunner ain to your Top mounted machinegun in order to shoot missiles down much more reliably

    @Serbian-Templar@Serbian-Templar10 ай бұрын

  • two weeks ago when I was playing China 8.7 I came across a full downtier, moments after I entered the position in my AFT I saw a maus rolling down the road, and fluently slammed a 1200mm pen tandem-HEAT ATGM on his UFP and promptly sending him back to the hanger

    @tianhaoju4634@tianhaoju4634 Жыл бұрын

  • Do Abrams against prop planes

    @kriptic626@kriptic626 Жыл бұрын

  • Hi Muffin. I participated in this challenge rounds 2 going on, and I have to admit I kinda cheated because I was told the M41A1 Walker Bulldog was allowed, and it has NVD, so I could see during the night battles :/

    @ItalianStarAnimations@ItalianStarAnimations Жыл бұрын

  • I’m so close to getting the American squad tank with the missiles lol

    @siroglethorpe311@siroglethorpe311 Жыл бұрын

  • 16:45 truly sad I didn't pay attention and got that shot on me still I guess it was quite hard to miss anyway xD

    @clumsynomad1478@clumsynomad1478 Жыл бұрын

  • 6:14 bro guided the missile from the grave

    @manhvo242@manhvo24210 ай бұрын

  • Maybe the fastest vs the slowest plane? I think this would be PO-2 vs F-104.

    @aapopesonen2902@aapopesonen2902 Жыл бұрын

    • Yak 28 is fastest in game apparently

      @humanperson3251@humanperson3251 Жыл бұрын

  • I recall during the conflict in Syria a few ago pictures of a few WW2 era tanks in use popped up, notably pictures of a destroyed Soviet tank destroyer taken out by a missle. There were debates on K board on 4chan of what kind of tank it was and how many were in use. Apparently after WW2 Syria ended up with outdated from Soviet and German origins, some of which may have just sat in warehouses after being retired only to be reactivated in the civil war, other examples include pictures of German Stg-44s rifles in use and I think there was also a single late generation Panzer IV that showed up in some images dug in as a fixed defense.

    @IronGuard24@IronGuard24 Жыл бұрын

  • I feel like round 2 was super winnable for the ATGM side, they just didn't use their advantages very well.

    @DEFCONINFINITY@DEFCONINFINITY Жыл бұрын

  • I think maybe in some of the early Arab Israeli wars, many Israeli upgraded Shermans/Pattons were hit by early atgms when advancing in areas where they weren't aware of the dangers posed by man portable atgms. I think this was in the early 60s but I can't remember

    @robertcoldwell4742@robertcoldwell4742 Жыл бұрын

  • One atgm carrier they have done dirty is the swing fire the swingfire atgm is insane being able to do 90° turns in thr air

    @danielallen839@danielallen83911 ай бұрын

  • Yeah I was sweating during the 2nd round, I couldn't win it by I tried the best as I could : ) btw in round 3 did we only saw my POV ? 😆

    @colonel_cookies_@colonel_cookies_ Жыл бұрын

    • You did good and yes, I just picked the player that did the best that round because with night vision on the atgm side it’s not very pleasant to watch imo and just wanted to do a quick highlight of what happened:)

      @ThunderWithMuffin@ThunderWithMuffin Жыл бұрын

    • That’s how the *cookie* crumbles.

      @ronaldraygun5089@ronaldraygun5089 Жыл бұрын

  • I'm imagening that i have heard that panzer 4s where used in the 6 days war between israel and aegypt, etc. That would work from the timeline but i haven't seen any records of it happening.

    @alexshield7532@alexshield7532 Жыл бұрын

  • Awesome 😎 hope I can join some time

    @noahsawesomevids422@noahsawesomevids422 Жыл бұрын

  • jolly good show

    @endo3po671@endo3po671 Жыл бұрын

  • I don't think the ATGM's will win, could very well be wrong but like.. the ATGM's take quite long to arrive, and can be quite squishy. In the meanwhile normal WW2 tanks can still just engage at long range for a lot of the ATGM carriers. And for the more tanky ones all they need to do is come up to a closer range by flanking. Not to mention the ATGM's very long reload.. I don't like their odds.

    @Gary_The_Metro@Gary_The_Metro10 ай бұрын

  • Israel did have MIM-23 HAWK surface-to-air missiles in the six day war so maybe they had ATGMs too idk? The Arab countries did use WW2 tanks in the war too

    @ahhkaraj@ahhkaraj10 ай бұрын

  • 18:51 well, if you count T-54 (1947) a WWII vehicle, then I'd say soon there very much might be such an instance...

    @basil_burrito@basil_burrito Жыл бұрын

  • muffin could you do a challenge (kv-85 versus 1 maus 5, 10, 15 kv-85 1, 2, 3, maus so every 5 kv-85 there is one more maus added I hope you can consider this (I know that you did 1945 ussr versus maus I’m kinda just switching it up a bit) or maybe 60 l3/33 ccs versus 5 kv-85s?

    @wiggymcgee22@wiggymcgee22 Жыл бұрын

  • Gaijin needs to work on there replay system

    @LogI_Bear@LogI_Bear Жыл бұрын

    • Yes they do!

      @ThunderWithMuffin@ThunderWithMuffin Жыл бұрын

  • Can you do a B17 Formation Vs Me 109‘a and 262’s? Or Royal Navy vs Kriegsmarine?

    @silentact1@silentact1 Жыл бұрын

  • Panthers don’t have much wobble so not too worried about fast aiming on it

    @c0ldyloxproductions324@c0ldyloxproductions324 Жыл бұрын

  • There is place called the Middle East, and also by extension parts of Africa. If a small island nation can keep cars running for 80+ years then the ATGM thing I’d bet a beer.

    @Shitbird3249@Shitbird3249 Жыл бұрын

  • I think a good challenge would be tanks using only their main cannons, no machine guns, guided missiles, or AA, to take out bombers.

    @underworldgameshd69@underworldgameshd69 Жыл бұрын

  • 9:01 the fucking l3/33 surrounded by the tigers II and maus.

    @Mika.TheKing@Mika.TheKing Жыл бұрын

  • You should stick with only ATGM carriers, it is not even fair that a T90 or a T80 is in the field. Make it so that the WW2 tanks can kill the ATGM carrier no matter what range.

    @chocolat-kun8689@chocolat-kun8689 Жыл бұрын

  • There can use the engine smoke and lock with thermals throug it so only making the enemy bliend.

    @ttonin33@ttonin33 Жыл бұрын

  • Shocked no one is using the ADATS and bmp2m in round 1

    @randomuser5443@randomuser5443 Жыл бұрын

    • ADATS at least may not count, since it's an AA system technically?

      @TheSchultinator@TheSchultinator Жыл бұрын

    • ​@@TheSchultinatorit's not like t80 is a missile carrier

      @russian_spy2205@russian_spy2205 Жыл бұрын

    • Honestly I'm always a bit pissed off about teams not using best stuff, like they all should be t80s or bmp2ms

      @russian_spy2205@russian_spy2205 Жыл бұрын

    • They all should have stayed together abused smoke

      @russian_spy2205@russian_spy2205 Жыл бұрын

  • Im pretty sure that israel actually used a panzer IV 70 till the 1990’s Or Well they had it written as a reserve and it was retired around that time

    @breemy2242@breemy2242 Жыл бұрын

  • You do ww2 heavy tanks vs modern light tanks

    @dominicvestal3716@dominicvestal3716 Жыл бұрын

  • Yeah in cyprus 1974 i think,some cypriot t34s where hit by turkish rpgs

    @xdmarioss@xdmarioss Жыл бұрын

  • God the second round i spent most the time trying to get a Maus and another tank seperated xD

    @araara_seraph6335@araara_seraph6335 Жыл бұрын

  • Also the panther 2 does have night vision and I really thing gaijin should add night vision to the normal panther a or g, also Israel had used Sherman’s all the way into to 70s so there is the possibility some may have been hit by an atgm

    @c0ldyloxproductions324@c0ldyloxproductions324 Жыл бұрын

    • but they didnt have night vision irl

      @oelholm@oelholm Жыл бұрын

    • @@oelholm yes they did the panther a & g models were equipped in limited numbers with night vision systems, and before u say that’s not true there are images proving it and a museum has a panther with all the mounts for the system on the tank still its just missing the infrared light and nvd scope

      @c0ldyloxproductions324@c0ldyloxproductions324 Жыл бұрын

  • the Taliban and others used the isu152 so probably

    @boneman19@boneman199 ай бұрын

  • Oh yes the famous ww2 t95

    @The-war-thunderfighter.@The-war-thunderfighter.11 ай бұрын

  • Title WW2 tanks, thumbnail; flak half-track

    @giovannibonifati@giovannibonifati Жыл бұрын

  • What about Helicopters with bombs vs heavy tanks/Maus 🤔

    @monke6915@monke6915 Жыл бұрын

  • Day 12 : OTOMATIC vs WII planes

    @kinmoto6096@kinmoto6096 Жыл бұрын

  • I’ve heard that an SU 100 got knocked out by an atgm. I forget where though

    @hayden-hr8gq@hayden-hr8gq3 ай бұрын

  • lol, if you disregard the atgm vs ww2 part, thats basically how the soviet win ww2

    @neneseal5182@neneseal51823 ай бұрын

  • 13:13 Not really. ATGMs typically need large projectile diameters to be effective these days. Gun fired ATGMs are simply not large enough to penetrate the frontal armor of a modern MBT. Gun fired missiles top out a 900mm of penetration and modern MBTs typically have over 1000mm of RHAe for HEAT on their frontal armor. I think gun fired missiles are most useful as a way of dealing with armored targets out of range if the main gun, especially to deal with IFVs or ATGM carriers that can outrange conventional rounds fired from the main gun.

    @MPdude237@MPdude237 Жыл бұрын

  • High tier players situational awareness in a nutshell...

    @-Shadow__Rider-@-Shadow__Rider- Жыл бұрын

  • 🥶

    @DonetskResident@DonetskResident Жыл бұрын

  • Muffin: war thunders replay system kinda sucks When does it not? 😅😂

    @_GODSFIGHTER@_GODSFIGHTER10 ай бұрын

    • Haha true

      @ThunderWithMuffin@ThunderWithMuffin10 ай бұрын

  • Funny thing, the asu 57 has nightvision😂

    @dexwy@dexwy Жыл бұрын

  • bigy cheese

    @kevingetty8929@kevingetty8929 Жыл бұрын

    • bigy chese

      @Hackerman177@Hackerman177 Жыл бұрын

  • Idea for a new video, maybe do American or British VTOL’s, against Russia’s new VTOL. A 5v5 or how ever many to see which country has the better VTOL.

    @mikalodian@mikalodian Жыл бұрын

  • Sheridan is always be safe of ATGM

    @NotAreaSP@NotAreaSP Жыл бұрын

  • Could there be SPAA VS SPAA as one?

    @Tanspotty@Tanspotty Жыл бұрын

  • If I had time to do this event I would have tried to use the bmp2m or raketenjagd hot if it was allowed.

    @tankstriker6634@tankstriker6634 Жыл бұрын

    • If someone used the bmp2m it would have been a massacre

      @robingrewal8103@robingrewal8103 Жыл бұрын

  • early ww2 tanks: t34-85?

    @Asiturk@Asiturk10 ай бұрын

  • tldw, puma scary

    @mr.tweaty@mr.tweaty Жыл бұрын

  • This is just 6.7 the custom game

    @TheArbiter1721@TheArbiter1721 Жыл бұрын

  • 6.7 in nutshell😊

    @kaitotara734@kaitotara734 Жыл бұрын

    • Bro not even lying fr

      @iftikarrot8034@iftikarrot8034 Жыл бұрын

  • Idk why didn’t the ww2 tank team just spam a bunch of smoke shells lmao

    @Vibakari@Vibakari Жыл бұрын

  • i was the maus cant belive i got stuck inside of a tiger too

    @anthonymilone9633@anthonymilone9633 Жыл бұрын

  • Some of the teams in these videos look no better than npcs

    @rytis2666@rytis266611 ай бұрын

  • you will have to redo this now the atgms have been changed

    @ihappened01@ihappened0111 ай бұрын

  • ATGM (in the thumbnail) actually stands for air to ground missile...

    @goldenapple3970@goldenapple3970 Жыл бұрын

    • No it doesnt. It stands for Anti Tank Guided Missile

      @humanperson3251@humanperson3251 Жыл бұрын

    • no it does not

      @oelholm@oelholm Жыл бұрын

  • If all of them were 15cm tanks or kv-2s or strum tigers they'll rekt the atgms

    @rabbitsarepro@rabbitsarepro Жыл бұрын

  • How's about AA missiles only against WW2 tanks?

    @news_internationale2035@news_internationale2035 Жыл бұрын

  • Average gameplay in the Tiger II H:

    @ww2_warrior615@ww2_warrior615 Жыл бұрын

  • Lol aimer wouldn't it count as a reticle though?

    @kittylove0921@kittylove0921 Жыл бұрын

  • Katusha vs bm 31 12

    @user-zo8sq4vf3s@user-zo8sq4vf3s Жыл бұрын

  • Im the m53/59 that got killed at 2:10 and I left instantly lol

    @brewski8133@brewski8133 Жыл бұрын

  • How to sign up on these war thunder events

    @romaniancomrade214@romaniancomrade214 Жыл бұрын

    • Join my discord to receive the announcements on when I do the events

      @ThunderWithMuffin@ThunderWithMuffin Жыл бұрын

  • The Centurion is consider WW2 ish?

    @erickcredidiooliveira201@erickcredidiooliveira201 Жыл бұрын

  • What happened to anti tank missiles only?

    @jarrid2853@jarrid285311 ай бұрын

  • I cried when that L3 died 🫡

    @Chaffee_@Chaffee_ Жыл бұрын

    • i felt so bad after killing him:(

      @oelholm@oelholm Жыл бұрын

  • Imagine using ATGMs now they are so useless

    @bigants1463@bigants146310 ай бұрын

  • Does anyone know how the replay in warthunder works for ps4?

    @tommasofrogli8065@tommasofrogli8065 Жыл бұрын

    • a random guy in the reddit comments from 7-10 years ago probberly does

      @joakimjensen309@joakimjensen309 Жыл бұрын

  • 3:10 that was way over 1000 meters not 400

    @huntershark88@huntershark88 Жыл бұрын

  • In Iraq that was a Sherman that got hit by an atgm

    @theThundercatsarehere@theThundercatsarehere Жыл бұрын

  • you want to see ww2 tanks getting hit by atgms? ukraine war is pretty close to it. tanks from just a few years after ww2 against javelins

    @sgxbot@sgxbot Жыл бұрын

  • Ham

    @socksfrog1713@socksfrog1713 Жыл бұрын

    • Spam

      @leviedvalson6798@leviedvalson6798 Жыл бұрын

  • Bungus?

    @M1A2_AbramsSEPv3@M1A2_AbramsSEPv3 Жыл бұрын

  • China vs japan

    @cuscuz_gaming1901@cuscuz_gaming1901 Жыл бұрын

  • L3 😭😭😭

    @rileydoesstuff8157@rileydoesstuff8157 Жыл бұрын

    • i felt bad for killing him:(

      @oelholm@oelholm Жыл бұрын

    • @@oelholm you killed him???

      @rileydoesstuff8157@rileydoesstuff8157 Жыл бұрын

  • How about the modern tanks fight ww2 tanks with thermals turned off.

    @merafirewing6591@merafirewing6591 Жыл бұрын

    • Did it in a previous vid of T-34’s and M4 vs modern tanks that couldn’t use their tech

      @ThunderWithMuffin@ThunderWithMuffin Жыл бұрын

    • @@ThunderWithMuffin but could you do a video showdown between thr L3 and the M22 Locust?

      @merafirewing6591@merafirewing6591 Жыл бұрын

  • May God bless whoever is reading this comment 🙌

    @antoniopereiradasilva1517@antoniopereiradasilva1517 Жыл бұрын

    • Thank you

      @zohaibtariq7351@zohaibtariq7351 Жыл бұрын

  • L3 :(

    @rabbitsarepro@rabbitsarepro Жыл бұрын

    • i felt bad for killing him:(

      @oelholm@oelholm Жыл бұрын
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