The Tragic Disappearance of Vivziepop's Timber Project
On my channel i’ve covered the history of many of vivziepop’s old cancelled projects. These projects had a variety of interesting ideas, however they had to be scrapped due to time constraints and other contributing factors. There is one project that i’ve yet to cover and this one has a tragic backstory which sets it apart from the rest. In this video i’m going to discuss the history and tragic disappearance of vivziepop’s timber series.
#vivziepop #helluvaboss #helluvabossseason2
Video Chapters:
Intro: 0:00
History: 0:23
Timber Series: 3:50
Scam Production Company: 6:29
Will Timber Return?: 9:55
Conclusion: 11:36
End Screen: 12:22
Credits:
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had no idea hazbin hotel fans still existed
hazbin hotel? i only know about skibidi toilet
@ayylmaotv ayy lmao's next video is going to be a skibidi toilet theory video😈😈😈
@@ayylmaotvplease noo😭😭 I’m tired of that bs😭😭
@@ayylmaotvSkibidi Toilet? Really?😅
Oh god not the Skibidi toilet
Its just so sad to hear a rumour like Viv hates kids and then learn about a project she tried to make involving child friendly content, only to be scammed in the process.
Lol let her hate kids if she wants to what the problem is. Not everyone likes those little devils
@squiddysquad9568 bro not every kid is bad 💀
Kids suck anyways lmfao
Yeah but on the other hand you know someone would've twisted this to be like "see??? Viv is making child content to get access to children!!! She's a predator!!!"
Many people hate kids, it's pretty normal. Doesn't mean they would hurt them, just means they hate being around them.
I was concerned the video had been taken down for a second probably one of my favourite of her projects
Haha yeah thankfully timber didn't go thru the same situation as the die young video.
@@ayylmaotvthe video really did- die young. All jokes aside, that WAS sad
@@ayylmaotvThis was really sad.😥💕
Same
That was also my second fav project it was adorable 1: helluva boss 2: timbere 3: hazbin hotel 4: zoophobia 5: etc projects
Crazy how different things could've turned out if Timber actually was created. Do you reckon she would be facing as much controversy and criticism if Timber became her main focus besides HH? (since HB probably wouldn't exist)
Personally i think she still would have, but just to a lesser degree. Alot of viv's old drama's were caused by zoophobia which was being made alongside timber. Added to this, alot of viv's older dramas weren't actually related to her projects, but just people she associated with. Unfortunately viv would be friends with people who would end up turning on her. I do think in this alternate reality where timber was the main project, channels like myself wouldn't exist. I'd still be doing gaming content probably.
“crazy how blah blah de fucking blah blah blah” holy shit we can get away with using the same langauge that stigmaizes mentally ill people to show how amazing some shit would be as if mental illnesses are just fun ways to describe how amazing yada yada yada is
@@originaluseername what does mental illness have to do with this??? /genq
@@theunicornsys they're mad about the word crazy being used. which hasn't been used to describe mental illness directly for quite some time. usually people use it to say how something is crazy, like crazy odds for a shiny in a pokemon game or crazy luck. Crazy now means mostly something being like out of this world or uncommon n such.
I'm pretty sure there would be a controversy surrounding her even if she only farted. :/
Can we appreciate how much Vivzie gotten better at drawing? I mean back when it was still so lovely but now it looks even more refined
I know, right?! There is something about Viv's style that is so whimsical and charming and full of personality.
@@jacqueshardin4601 it really makes me miss the speedpaint though
And red
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@@Random.Lobster what?
I hate it when projects new movies and shows get scrapped and never see the light of day. But, if these shows did exist. Then we wouldn’t have the shows and movies we know and love now. Although, I’m hoping that Timber and Zoophobia will get a second chance
I'm certain when Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss are finished, Vivienne will give Timber another shot. By then, her channel will likely have well over 10 million subscribers, so crowdfunfing would be smooth sailing. As for Zoophobia, I think Viv intends to reboot it since the story is not what it used to be. This comic is where the Hellaverse was originally supposed to be before becoming it's own thing. Not to mention Zoophobia was something of a punching bag during its time. So Viv might focus solely on Timber or whichever of her other film or TV projects she chooses when the Hellaverse shows are complete.
Timber had a lot of potential and I think making Timber the character not speak and instead have her communicate via expressions and movements would have been creative and a good use of animation.
I remember watching this and my GOD it was beautiful(still is)
This one had a lot of potential 😢
Honestly it’s understandable she wouldn’t want to work on Timber anyone after being scammed. Like I’ve lost months of work on projects due to one reason or another and I just cannot bring myself to work on them again from all the time lost. I can imagine it’d be worse for Viv since she put money into it
The Timber short is what introduced me to Vivziepop. It was in early 2019, months before the Hazbin Hotel pilot released.
Me too
I'm so sorry for Vivz right now. They practically robbed her!
It's so interesting how many unreleased works Viv has. I wonder if she would ever try to pursue them, it would be interesting if she even pursued SpindleHorse further and had it be a studio dedicated to all of her works.
I am certain Viv will likely try to make Timber a full show once Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss are complete. And if she still has time and energy, maybe have another go at the Zoophobia webcomic. Though we might have to wait like five or so years until then.
I remember when i first came across that video. It was really well animated and really creative. Especially with its message to stand up against others who judge you for being different. I really hope just with Zoophobia, she can pick this back up at one point because this project definitely deserves a spotlight like her other projects. Also Ayy, the purple owl like creature and the creature with the blonde ponytail and three eyes that Timber first befriended are named Quincy and Maggie respectively. Just wanted to let you or others know 😉 I bet the two would have greatly help and support Timber's journey in whatever she was trying seek and achieve!
Uh Yo. Somebody who worked on both Timber and Die Young here. Nothing crazy behind the scenes during the short, I just wanted to say that I had NO idea about the production company scamming Viv out of money while trying to get Timber off the ground. So many things would have been different if she had worked with a more honest and on the level company. Then again, if that were to happen we wouldn't get HH and HB. Aw well, the things we could do in a world where time machines exist.
I think maybe Hazbin and Helluva would still be conceived and be brought to fruition. Wow that's an experience
Why didn't she try to sue the company that scammed her? I mean, she has every right to do so, right?
Maybe she just didn’t have the time to mess around with lawsuits, or she didn’t have the money for lawyers while working on her other projects, idk though, to me, the time one seems more likely.
I’m not even surprised since so much stuff got scrapped lmao
I don't know this creator.. but from what I guess after the episode 1-8 nightmare if Vivzie makes enough money on Hazbin I'm sure she'll do her best to bring life to her other series. It takes a lot of dedication to do what she is doing.
Still love timber so much! It’s absolutely gorgeous.
I wish timber Comes to light and all her pass projects
brrooooooo this so sad i’m sure all of her fans would’ve loved to see a project just like this one. Maybe someday she can go back to working on it if she truly wanted to or if she had any time but as of now we have the hazbin hotel series that’s coming out soon and the rest of helluva boss and all of her existing shorts on her channel that we can binge watch while she makes new episodes for the shows we already love. keep up the good work ❤
I remember Timber was the animated short that introduced me to Vivzies channel before Hazbin Hotels pilot dropped. I hope she'll try pitching Timber again but i wish the multiple eye thing stayed...it was a really cool design feature
So tragic 💔 😞 really love the character designs 💔
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she has a bunch of cancelled project bro 😭 first it was zoophobia, then allison, then classic, now timber. wow , , ,
Wait, I remember Ayy Lmao talking about this Timber Project and why it got cancelled. Now I really want to know why it disappeared, even though it does look pretty cool along with that other cancelled project which is Allison.
Is it just me or does anyone else remember the Timber short having the actual Timber song in the background when it originally came out? Or was that a fan edit?
It did!!
So many forgotten projects that would’ve made such great series
I read for a second that Viz was missing, you freaked me out
I saw the thumbnail and thought it was a new upload in Vivzie's channel
shiiit timber was the first viv's short i saw (and it was one of the shorts that made me want to go into animation a couple of years back!
As someone who isn't a fan of vivzie's works, the Timber short always stuck out to me as the best work Vivzie has made. It's geniunely heartbreaking to see this project go into the gutter. The concept is gripping and has *the* best character designs out of her whole catalogue. I hope to God one day Timber becomes a reality, because it looks so goddamn cute 🥺
I love how you know all this shows were made by her i absolutely love that artsyle
i wonder if Viv should write an entire novelization of her artist life from the 2010s all the way to when ever she retires
The actual short was always my favorite growing up ❤ my art style started out honestly as a lower-quality knock-off type of her Viv’s art because I watched the video so much 😂
Nothing lasts forever sadly, I'm gonna miss her old work
To me, this story makes me think of her progress as well. She has so many wonderful Ideas, but nothing will ever go right, there are specific things you need to make things like this happen and she can't just make them appear. I'm glad she is able to go through with Hazbin, it can give us hope that one day she will get to finish these projects. After all, if the series does well then more people will be willing to work with her.
I got really excited cause I when I saw the thumbnail I thought this was from viv’s channel saying it’s back or something 😂 still, love your videos!
Oh my god is that papers, please music in the backgound?? Nice choice
Man i forgot about Timber it was pretty cool now thinking back on it
I’ve been enjoying these videos
I would love to see this up here on KZhead
I hope that one day it becomes a one day…
I hope vivsie can persevere and her world/art can be injoyed by many people/animals/beings 😊😊😊
I mean in all fairness a Timber series probably wouldn’t be something I’d watch but it’s nice to see there’s a long road of success waiting for Spindlehorse and Viv Medrano.
Honestly it dosnt seem like an issue of cancaling, but more overscope. All of these storys are giant and epic, multi series. You can only strech yourself so thin before things start to break. Like, I love wrighting storys but I've had to shelve so many because the notes just become a complicated criss cross mess. I dont even want to think about how much worse it gets with 3 to 4 entire crews to deal with.
I knew it the people complaining about how many projects she shelves really do have unrealistic expectations
Someone just copied your comment lol a bot probably
I remember watching this it was the first Vivsiepop video i watched
i absolutely love the way how viv thanks owls for existing in the credits
Damn im early 😂, tysm for making these videos, you work really hard on videos
i feel like maybe Timber wouldve worked best as a novelization book first.
Finally this video!
DEAR LORD 😭 I saw this notification and it broke off some of the sentence to say "The Tragic Disappearance of Vivzie-". The way I immediately thought she was missing and clicked this because I got scared.
Any headcanons as to who scammed viv?
She looked so different back then
Seeing the success of Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel, it makes total sense to stomp all other projects to expand that IP.
Although unfortunate, it's understandable.
I remember always watching the timber short, when I was in elementary school, I wanted to watch it again and it took like several wrong tries for me to spell timber right so I could find it again 😭
When I watched Timber, I was 7/8/9. Watching this short is what made me decide I wanted to start drawing and become an animator, just like Viv. I still have the same exact dream at 16, and although she’s not perfect, I’m grateful for Viv’s work, because it awakened the fire in me. 🫶
I remember watching this when i was seven
I would love to see timber as an actual animated show, i love the aesthetic and the vibrant colours and how lively it looks! (I know it's out of context, butlso talking about hazbin hotel, I once thought that nifty from hazbin hotel was A MIX of timber and the one eyed dude, i know they're probably aren't even related but they look like parents tbh!)
Vizz is also super lucky she knows everything that happens further on the story while we are stressing Stolas will die or Stolas is gonna end the deal with Blitzo 😩
Is that the Papers Please OST? Glory to Arstotzka!
I had always wanted to see the other part of that video I love vizzipop
I LOVED TIMBER
I was worried another one of Vivziepop's early videos like Die Young got taken down for a second
0:56 when I saw that first drawing of Alstor ever I just said: WHAT THE SHITTY WOW VUIII!!! (WITH MY HANDS IN THE AIR) 12:38 - 12:53 1.This blueish thing could be the (early) version of Hazbin' Seraphims . 2. Boy is angel wearing Alastor's furr?!
Thanks for this. Fascinating to get into the history of Vivienne. She's quite a creator.
I had no idea this short was going to become a series, that's really cool. Shame it got shelved, because vivzie is only working on hazbin and Helluva now which are both adult shows, a family friendly show would've been nice too
I don’t think everyone understands how hard getting a project off the ground is. Many major studios have picked up ideas and concepts to only be tossed aside in the end. For her as an independent creator to have gotten one of her projects off the ground is amazing and should be applauded.
Okay YALL, in 6:00 you can see the girl wearing top of her dress similar to millie, while the one eyed guy has a bow and suit, loke moxxi. I like to think that the characters were kinda reused seeing the personalities are also similar (While I think the guy's design contributed to angel's later on). Just my observation though.
Timber is basically a zoophobia spin off
I LOVED Zoophobia and was sad for a long while I'd have to wait to see more of it. It was the comic that got me into vizie
looks cute, i wouldve liked to watch it
Triste que foi descontinuada
I used to click on the video thinking it was the song Timber by Kesha and get disappointed 😭
The name Timber is also inspired by ke$ha's song
I love your accent.😊
Don't get any ideas animalzolover
Ive watched he her videos for a long time :)
I never heard of it, but maybe I’ll give it a try
The Gota❤❤❤❤
Could've been a solid show no shit but if it was sorta sacrifice to invent Hazbin hotel then this tale definitely went good.
Okay, but at 5:32, tell me that character doesn't look like Tilla, from Hb
i wish timber was real and other project i well love it
Isn't that film already uploaded?
Soo phobia and timber were abandoned.
Damm
Aw that would be so great I loved the timber film and it would've been great
9:32 she so cute
With all the merch vivzie sells it is surprising that she hasn’t re-released her art books or at least publish a new one.
I don't remember where I found the name but I the character on the left at 5:30 is called "Earth". I asked Viv in a patron call in late 2021 about her but she didn't want to talk about it but called her "The Earth's Spirit".
When helluva boss is over I think zoophobia or timber will me be made at least I hope so
yeah
Scammers suck this proves it if it wasn’t proved before
Maybe now since she works with Prime Video and her show has hazbin hotel has been a huge success. Maybe now she can start working on her canceled projects again.
Hopefully🙏
Timber and zoophobia are both awesome!
Coming Soon, Ladies and Gentlemen!
💯💯💯
I’m here early! Yay!❤❤
Wowowow I’m early? Kinda- it’s early for me ;-;
Early… something’s off…
🎉🎉🎉💯
Funny, I recall Timber being a successful dating app to this day Oh, wait 😔🚪
Why didn't VivziePop finish the webcomics about ZooPhobia? When VivziePop was developing the pilot for Hazbin Hotel, she was busy and didn't have time to finish the ZooPhobia comics. But now VivziePop was focusing only on Helluva Boss, and the webcomic and web series about ZooPhobia would be released later or in the future.
AYYyy😱
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