[1115] This Illegal Gun Case Was Saved By A Design Flaw!

And it's also pick proof, because our hinges are exposed and you need not bother with anything else.

@@arletottens6349 Big brain energy.

what if this was designed on purpose so the "only the passenger can open it" part was taken care of :o 200 iq move "lol everyone will think we made a mistake but we're 4 dimensions ahead of you"

@@pvic6959 That would be great, but I think the unsecured hinge pins points to the opposite conclusion.

pvic Also TSA will break it open/seize it if they want to anyway.

I don’t get it

RuffyRuf, He’s pointing out the fact that LPL dished out all this legality talk, just like a lawyer.

Donkey Fish lmao both are correct dude

@Donkey Fish when u finally figure out u are an idiot

@Donkey Fish UK spelling dude!

But it does contain potassium benzoate so that's something.

If this was a simpsons TOH reference, then well done!

But the case comes with a free frogurt

Hey, the law just says it has to be in a locked, hard case that only you have the key to. It doesn't say anything about it not being possible to physically dismantle the box in five seconds...

basically every law out there lol

well, he is a lawyer after all :D

This comment got me rolling

@@minidreschi2 Casually reminding us like a boss

Finally that law degree pays off...

LPL: "I've been waiting my whole KZhead career for this."

@@wewd like for real? he's an actual lawyer?

@@0cs025 He was a lawyer he is currently not practicing

haha

Malicious compliance

We know you want to have a look, but you're not allowed... It should be modified to have a switch activated by a counterclockwise turn playing a soundbite of LPL stating Title 49

Also, 0:28 “TSA Approved” so fk knows what their approval process is?!

@@Bobblyben1, approval is over the phone. LOCK COMPANY: "We have a new lock box for travel." TSA: "Did you put a TSA lock on it?" LOCK COMPANY: "Yep, sure did." 🤞😏👍 TSA: "Ok, good to go."

That's what I was thinking, actually. It seems like they wanted it to comply with the TSA while still being legal, so they made a TSA keyhole but the key doesn't work. The entire lock seems like it was perfectly designed to satisfy everyone's needs. Or it was just a massive design flaw. Idk.

Hahaha true! It was probably a senior project /company coop and the company just said "fuck it, send it to market"

@@YourUncle8501 Exactly, I'll bet the $20 in my back pocket an intern was on the design team.

@@steele_heart77 fax😭

@@YourUncle8501 it wasn't a senior project, that would get a fail. I can definitely imagine a coop though.

As an engineering student... fair.

Agreed. That was my take too.

The TSA doesn't require these locks. It's just a gimmick created by some private company.

No. Firearm cases are required to NOT have any way for anyone except the owner to open it. They wouldn't have been told that it needs a TSA key, because if it had a (working) TSA key, it would not conform to TSA's requirements for firearms.

I thought so too but there is another possible explanation that just came to my mind. Maybe due to the weird laws of mass production, supply and demand, the combination lock with added TSA key was cheaper to procure than a standalone combination lock part and the engineers simply decided to "disable" the TSA bit by blocking counterclockwise rotation of the lock. Wouldn't be the first time in design that disabling or simply not using parts of a generalized design is cheaper than using a more specialized one.

​@@littlejackalo5326 Not having a TSA key for firearms is a Federal law's requirement, not TSA's. Which is why at 1:42 LPL says the TSA's website muddies the issue.

Yes, but only I have the pliers. That makes it legal.

Your guncase looks suspiciously like a childrens lunch box

@@ersetzbar. But I wrapped it with duct tape. LPL's mortal enemy.

Me in response to TSA: “Your pliers look suspiciously like keys”

That muffin is looking awfully like a hamster

Why are you everywhere I go

Understandable have a great day

@@chsameer2794 username checks out

I mean if this was on purpose to make sure it cant be picked open thenn

and for some reason nobody at all: "then why put the lock on there?"

So the TSA has to have a key, but only the owner can have the key?

@@Attaxalotl only the owner can have a key. The case and contents gets inspected, locked, and sent with the checked baggage to be loaded in cargo (not carry on). Then it is retrieved by the owner at the destination, unlocked by the owner, inspected, and sent on with the owner.

@@littlejackalo5326 Aye. then why did they put a TSA key on there?

@@Attaxalotl Because otherwise the TSA throws a fit since they like to feel like they have any power at all

@@Marcus_Aurelius42 makes sense.

Anyone in the luggage industry more then 20 years had all those keys already. They took a keyring of existing keys and said "Use these ones or else."

You're telling a lawyer what's illegal?

@@Sillimant_ tf is the point of a key if u can 3d print it

@@AlexM-xj7qd sense of security

@@AlexM-xj7qd what’s the point in a key that can’t open its lock?

@@jetstreamer374 What lawyer stories can you tell under 3 seconds?

I think this is the first time I actually noticed the background in law from LPL in one of his videos.

Damn I never read his name as "a lawyer who lockpicks" but as "the lawyer of lockpicking" (so a metaphorical lawyer, he inspects lock to see if they're good or bad) I don't know what is real anymore

​@@SillyMakesVids OBJECTION! CASE CLOSED!

@@RammusTheArmordillo I never thought of it that way, now you've got me confused

Never seen stack underflow before, what kind of nonsense would you need for that? Other than handwritten ASM or some crappy old redundant programming language, of course.

Truly the Ghandi of lock boxes

@@berylliosis5250 when you deal with uCs, current production 40 year old architectures are not uncommon.

Yeah, but there's the part about the hinge.

@@deepspacelazarus7207 our words are backed with NUCLEAR WEAPONS

But the law doesn’t mention hinge pins so it’s legal but not secure. What a world we live in…

There is the distinct possibility that it isn't for monetary reasons but for financial ones. That lock with the TSA key is probably used in hundreds of other products and thus it was cheaper to simply disable the TSA key bit than to design an entirely new one. Even replacing the core with a non-TSA one or designing an entirely new knob would probably cut too much into the profit margins for such a cheap design.

If making sure the TSA can't fuck with it was their intention, couldn't they have just not put the TSA lock on there at all?

@@naphackDT no, the TSA lock would be more expensive than without it regardless of how many they manufacture.

@@matthewklahn7523 Sure, if the the TSA lock wasn't already built into, and partly used by, the combination lock.

All of that is irrelevant when the real master key is a pair of pliers

Apophis checked baggage . . . Not carry-on.

Gun safes aren't supposed to have a TSA lock. That's specifically for security - so you can't have a confederate on the inside who uses their TSA key to open your gun safe inside the security checkpoint and hands you your gun, thus enabling you to walk through security unarmed but board a plane armed. This is sometimes used by people traveling with expensive gear they don't want stolen - there's no regulation that a gun safe can't have other stuff in it as well. So they buy a gun safe designed for a long gun, put a flare gun or starter's pistol in one corner (which are considered guns for airline safety purposes but not under other laws), and then fill the safe with their expensive telescope or musical instrument or whatever.

@@muppetist um. what about having two keys to a single lock...

@@muppetist you don't need someone on the inside, tsa keys come with TSA locks

Surely there's a classic video game reference for this - there MUST be

@@RyTrapp0 the original is "task failed successfully", an error box for some windows program

Fission Mailed

Mission successful, We’ll get em next time

mission failed | respect+

"is it a bug or a feature?" "Y E S"

Oh hello Bethesda, didn’t expect you to make locks!

It`s a surprise feature.

[Lockpick: 100]

You just dug your hole deeper, because now you look like a bad nonchalant lier as well as incompetent. The line is "It's not a bug, its an *undocumented* feature"

A lock picker has been my inspiration for becomming a lawyer.

I worked on a project where some bugs got out to the field, customers liked the thing and asked that it remain.

Dale Zapple Are you able to share any about the project and the flaw?

Yes, please spill the beans if possible - this stuff is positively fascinating!

Bug is just undocumented feature ;) I've been developer for 36 years, so I know for sure...

*Bethesda

I don't think he's a lock lawyer, and it is clickbait.

@@garymitchell5899 He is a member of the bar, and also makes videos on lockpicking; thus he is a lawyer, and also a lockpicking enthusiast. Also in the video, he explains how it's almost illegal, with a citation to a US law code, making it not clickbait. He is a non-clickbaiting, lockpicking lawyer

@@garymitchell5899 I mean, you didn't really think the "lawyer" part of his channel name was just a joke or something, did you? Have you not heard how this guy speaks? Just imagine that voice in a court room - he was born for the work!

Who said he wasn't a lawyer? He claims that the design flaw makes it legal. The design flaw is the hinges - the law relates to the lock. It is total clickbait.

@@garymitchell5899 you forgot the design flaw that the TSA key wont work, thus making it compliant with the "and only the passengers retains the key/combination" part of the law

There are several publicly viewable penetration tests done that show TSA is quite poor at their actual mission. They do however excel at giving me a hard time when I travel.

Yes

Speaking of the TSA and comedy: kzhead.info/sun/jLWDZ6lpa2Jjhok/bejne.html

@@mvmlego1212 The sad part is how true it is

Both.

yes

I mean, yeah, it can't be picked it can be easily taken apart, but not picked

S theking it can be picked too

@@cclphdfu I'm certain the code wheels are trivial to decode if not bypass..

@@WrightWorld Yeah. That's why he didn't even bother to do it. But that's bypassing, not picking.

imaging someone picking it for days xD

Are you hired by KZhead to repeat what's said in the video in the comments? You deserve a raise.

@@jordanbomb32 Are you having a bad day? Boss yell at you? Mom keeps screaming down the basement stairs at you? Get your ass kicked playing your little games? Well guess what scooter, you are a fail as a troll as well!

@@tinknal6449 nah dude. He explicitly says what it is for multiple times. And you say what it's for. You wanted to be noticed for repeating the video. Maybe it's my autism and retardation... But I need to know why you had to repeat the video in the comments

@@jordanbomb32 Oh, so you're just pedantic. Got it!

@Valmora Ah look, another one! You couldn't trigger me with an atomic bomb sweetie but nice try!

The flip side is that they were going to fail it, but then tried the lock and saw that it actually adhered to the regulations and passed it as jokes.

You misspelled corruption.

TSA doesn't actually approve the products. Having TSA approval means their master key will work on the lock.

Reminds me of a time I was working on the floor with a quality control guy. He had to inspect and test every aspect of the product with a long list of defined controls. Except for one: a squeaky cover. Nothing in any of his documents had a control against a squeaky cover. So he had to pass the product, with the squeaky door.

I doubt it would have to be sent to the TSA to get approval just built to a set of specifications (which it failed to do), any lock can be TSA compliant as long as it is openable with one of the TSA keys and has which key opens it permanently marked on it

As always.

The TSA isn't theater. It's a jobs program. That's all

The purpose of this gun 'safe' isn't a safe. It is just to make it so a random person (or kid) can't pick up the gun and start waving it around. It is a travel case. Still incompetently designed though.

@@travcollier Yup, it suits its purpose just fine. It's cheap and just barely conforms to federal guidelines so that you can travel with your weapon. It isn't legitimately meant to secure the firearm despite what the box says.

@@jong3122 Lets be honest, ANY case that isn't bolted to the floor isn't meant to keep your firearm secure. Its meant to make it inconvenient for quick access.

Have you ever tried opening some older tupperwares that have those clips? It's hard man, harder than this lock, for sure.

Soraya Imperial especially those airtight ones

Well he is a lawyer haha

Yeah, we got Captain America over here. Best of the best of the best, sir!

@@ShootLuckGaming Yasss. i was waiting for the Lawyer part of his name to come into play.

In the trade we just say and write 15 CFR 40.111 instead of that mouthful

You know if you say really you don’t gotta day finna right

It's in your luggage surrounded by your clothes. That should insult it enough to not crack the case. Even if it did, so now you have an unloaded gun in a cracked case in a checked bag, in the cargo hold. That's not a threat to a plane. This is not an everyday gun safe. It's meant for travel only. It only needs to meet the bare minimum requirements. Now the terrorist would need to get into the cargo hold. Find your gun that they don't know exists. Load it with the correct ammunition that they somehow snuck onto the plane. Then find a way into the locked cockpit, and past the pilots, who may have their own gun. They have to do all of this without anyone stopping them. If someone is capable of doing this, your gun case is not going to stop them. And if someone is capable of doing this, why hasn't it happened by now? It's practically impossible to hijack a plane since 911. Before 911, people would go along with plane hijacking plans, because they figure they will be safe. Plane goes somewhere, they get let go, back to their life. Traumatized but alive. But since 911, people now assume a hijacker wants to crash the plane. They are no longer willing to go along with the bad guy. People are now much braver and attack the bad guy. There will certainly be people brave enough on the plane to risk themselves if it means saving the entire plane and preventing an even bigger disaster. It's impossible to hijack a plane now. The most they could do is blow up the plane in the air. They'd need a bomb for that, not a gun. Or some way to fatally damage the plane, without being stopped. Not easy. Now the only way to hijack a plane to make it crash into a designated target is for the pilot to be in on it. Even then they need to do it in such a way as to not get intercepted by the military. If a plane starts acting suspicious, it's quickly intercepted by fighter jets. That plane will be shot down given the right conditions. So the terrorist needs a way past these jets if they want to cause larger damage. 9/11 changed things forever. This type of attack is now so difficult, no one can get away with it. Terrorists need a new plan. All a stronger travel gun case would do is make it slightly harder for someone to steal your gun. People stealing guns at the airport isn't really a huge problem. You're free to use a stronger, more expensive case if you like. This will be heavier. It pushes you closer to your baggage weight allowance. But don't think anyone is buying this case to use year round. They buy it because they don't want to take their real gun safe with them when traveling for some reason or other. Or, they don't even have a real gun safe. But the government has no incentive to make the laws stronger because it's just not necessary.

@@cbernier3 If the pilot is in on it take a flight past the key landmark. You'll look normal and by the time the jets get there you will have crashed it alresd6

TSA has never prevented any attack since it's inception.

@@matthewklahn7523 that's impossible to know, the TSA could very well act as a deterrent to prevent attacks, even if they couldn't do anything if someone actually tried

@@jonathantadlock-stein2023, Bullshit! They have never stopped an attack or hijacking ever! If they had we’d never hear the end of it. They have caught a few accidental forgotten prohibited items. And the ridicules items they prohibit! You can take your illegal and unconstitutional TSA and shove them up your ass! No weapon of mine has ever or will ever be used by me to commit a crime. If every passenger had a gun no plane would ever be hijacked! At least not for long, lol! With all due respect, go to hell sir!

@@evelbill1439 dude, calm down, I never said the TSA was worth the tax dollars, or that they actually do their job, all I’m saying is that there has to be at least one person who thought of hijacking a plane, but decided against it because of the TSA. Again, I’m not saying the TSA is the best thing ever to happen to mankind, I’m just playing devils advocate.

@@evelbill1439 I'm too poor to own a gun, but I earnestly want to believe that the crime rate would tank if even a significant percentage of citizens had a basic handgun and firearm safety training since any location with multiple people goes from "plentiful hostages" to "plentiful threats". That's "want to" believe because there is a concerning percentage of individuals who, through mental illness, entitlement, or whatever cognitive inhibitor, would feel perfectly justified shooting someone who mildly inconvenienced them.

You'll have to duct tape some solid pieces to fulfill the hard side requirement.

😂😂😂😂

I've always wondered how long you could get away with just putting a tsa lock on the outside that doesn't actually do anything

Allen Lark just for the jokes one time I put a lock on a rope and made the rope look like a bike lock, never got stolen lmfao

Your grandma lunchbox had combination lock and keyhole ?

"This is officially less secure than my grandma's lunch box" Does your grandma's lunch box get entered frequently then? ;)

Was that a euphemism?

@@walterjames9804 This lockbox effectively doesn't, which is their point

Ye

TSA agents love this trick

I mean even if you literally obey the law and put your own padlocks on your gun case, the TSA just come along with bolt cutters and cut them off then replace them with TSA openable ones. Which it seems is not something the TSA should ever do. There's a long video on KZhead where this actually happened to a guy and he deliberately missed his flight in order to a) film this entire interaction and b) complain to higher ups in the airport that what they did broke the law.

@@CoolSteve08 That was Deviant Ollam. An awesome dude.

Sounds like the definition if the TSA itself.

well, to be fair, the appearance of security is sometimes more valuable then actual security

@@jettaeschroff6924 Only because it's potentially cheaper.

@@radordekeche947 would you rather have defenses that look so strong that nobody wants to mess with them, or defenses that are actually strong, but everybody messes with them

@@jettaeschroff6924 if I had to chose, the later. If it's not discouraging attacks, then it's likely very non-intrusive, while the useless theater would liky be.

@@radordekeche947 *likely, I know touch keyboards are bad but jeez completely missing a letter, unless you are using a chromebook that is over one hundred dollars and 3 gen like schools

damn bro never heard that one before 😒😒😒 real comedy legend over here

If only the word "secure" was used, some smartass would probably argue about the definition

Actually that and secure are 2 different things. You could in theory have a secure box but tell everyone you know the combination or make them a key copy., it would still be secure as in the people authorized may get in, others not. But law says only you

theGhostWolfe, no, the CFR is very clear on who retains access to the contents to a locked firearms storage container. It ain't the TSA. I've had TSA cut both padlocks off of my rifle case. Even though my contact information was displayed in the case and a copy of the CFR is laminated and affixed to the case, they cut the locks and replaced them with two TSA approved padlocks, which I did find until I arrived at my destination. The problem was that I didn't have the keys. I filed a complaint to which TSA claimed that the information on their website was law. After that experience, I modified the case so that the padlocks went from a lock with a hasp to a Medeco puck lock enclosing a 17-7 stainless steel hasp.

@@gungadinn did you bring charges against the entire TSA staff at your departure airport?

Scott Kenny I couldn’t get the local police to even take a report. The TSA supervisor was as thick as a concrete block. I stated that the TSA website was wrong, that the CFR was the law and that they needed to understand that policy isn’t law. I contacted my Congressman that spoke with the TSA and allegedly it was being corrected. Nothing has changed. I’ve added a gps tracker and an audible alarm to the case, plus the new locks and custom fabricated hasps.

Anything? Even you know...?

jose almeida... like buying a master lock to safe your money?

jose almeida no..please no !! Everything but not preparing peanut butter sandwiches for Masterlock CEO (´༎ຶོρ༎ຶོ`) !!!

The trick is to send him a lock that he can't get open in < 5 minutes

Technically this case is better at its job than the TSA...which is just sad.

if this box was as good as the tsa it would just say “THIS BOX IS LOCKED” with no lock

@@thestarbran but this box doesn't creepily grope people and torture elderly folk with chemotherapy ports

Yeah, I guess you’re right. A box that, even with the right permissions, can’t be opened. An agency that, even with the right permission, won’t listen to you even if it means violating federal law.

@@thestarbran hahaha this comment made me laugh then you took it to the next level, well done my friend.

dude just let him in

Is that because they got into this unsecure gun case and killed everyone?

good luck getting to your checked in bags mid flight, next to impossible

@@PneumaticFrog The gun case bit of the law is not to protect against the gun's owner during flight. It is to protect against anyone else during the parts of travel where the gun/gun case has to be in the possession of someone who is not the gun's owner. The gun is certainly safe during flight on commercial aircraft whether in a case or not.

He says cock in one video

@@shrekonion8307 Dear god.

Watched a video with a plethora of baaadd words yesterday, i think it was an old video with him testing out 3 let locks lmao

The worst thing a lawyer could call you is a "reasonable person"

@@shrekonion8307 which one

When Bob Ross's descendants end up in the wrong field of work...

@@RyTrapp0 But really if it was made by A Bob Ross descendant....it would only be able to carry bushmaster brand guns😂

Oof.

He said the lock doesn't work so the safe is essentially pickproof (but not bypass proof)

@@piotrnapora5810 it works with the user key, not the TSA key. So can be picked in the user direction, not the TSA direction.

the hinge-disassembling lawyer

I beg to differ. possibilities to make it worse: - use cardboard as a material. -leave a gunshaped, gunsized hole at the bottom. -do not connect the part the lock locks into with the body -ad a knob at the end of each hingepin to allow toolless removal.

Criminally underrated comment. :)

@@kirstinmorrell Do I need a lawyer? ;)

Pun unintended 🤣

@@kirstinmorrell For the criminals: hopefully in this case.

Lawyers do need research, especially in such countries as USA

@@mikoajp.5890 but Lawyers know where to search and thus have it easier. A non-professional would've taken more time to get valuable information.

@@rioghander2te Yep, one does not necessarily need to know everything about a subject, as long as one knows where to find everything about a subject..

This is information that anyone can find by googling something as simple and incoherent as "TSA gun," and clicking the very first link that pops up.

It does allow the tsa to lock the box when it’s not locked and the correct code isn’t dialled, so isn’t that a feature?

@@Keneo1 Makes me wonder if the master key is to set the code. It would make sense that you should only be able to set the code while the box is open.

Why are you having an imaginary conversation with yourself?

That makes absolutely no sense, and believe me, they know the law when you check bags. It's not complicated.

@@matthewklahn7523 THe question I have is if the law says "only the passenger" has access to the inside, how could the TSA approve the lock in the first place? Note the packaging states that it complies with TSA firearm guidelines.

@@Tahngarthor "TSA approved" does not mean that it was examined and tested by the TSA. It means "this case was designed to comply with TSA guidelines". Except in this case, it's obvious that somebody at the case company does not understand TSA guidelines.

"TSA compliant" for a gun case would use a regular lock, NOT a TSA lock!

@@cymond which is exactly why this safe is still legal, because the TSA lock doesn't work.

Not to mention some people like to set a speed record speaking so fast. For people outside the states it can be difficult.

Yeah padding the runtime for ads irritates me. I've watched a few videos lately that were 8 minutes of content and 2 minutes, 5 seconds of end-card just to get over the limit.

Michiel van Erven KZhead allows the user to adjust playback speed, slowing down those that speak too fast (and speed up the vast majority that speak too slow).

The boating accident of the 21st century!

Personally, I'm guessing it was tested, they found the flaws, and told people it would need to be re-designed. Then some higher up said "We already got TSA approval on this design though, and if we re-design, we'll need them to re-approve, which is too much trouble. Ship it."

_It can't fail a test if there wasn't any to begin with_

@@jastur3645 I bet they designed it so the tsa lock would open, started producing them found out they weren't compliant with the feds and just changed the receiving slot to allow it to comply without much effort on their part.

I'm honestly surprised fewer people aren't mentioning this. To me it seems that the way the title is written maybe most gunsafes aren't technically legal since not only the passenger has the key (all the TSA agents also have the key, therefore it is illegal?) It honestly sounds like it is in practice almost always illegal to travel with a firearm since you need the TSA to have a key, but you cannot travel if not only you possess it. So they let you travel with one if you're compliant, but it sounds like they basically reserve the right to either say you need a TSA master key to access this case or you can't fly, OR, since a TSA master key can access it, its technically illegal. They can tell you that you aren't complying with one or the other requirements that are almost mutually exclusive. This case however seems to have found a way around that as it is TSA compliant (says so right on the box) but only the passenger can access it with their own key or the code (making it comply with title 49). And to be honest when it comes to gun cases I really don't think people should be as concerned with how easy they are to unlock or bypass, the lock box isn't really to prevent theft but just to secure a firearm. And if someone is trying to get to your firearm by means of pliers or lockpicking equipment, the gun case isn't really designed to deal with that. More for keeping out toddlers or preventing misfires. All in all this gun case looks absolutely genius.

@@eewweeppkk Man, you could grab that firearm with a tooth pick and your hands, any pointy thing would do the job, after you move the pins you could grab it with your hands, literally awful design.

​@@eewweeppkk AIUI the TSA lock isn't a legal requirement, they'll just break into any other luggage that is selected for inspection and won't pay for a replacement of any damaged locks or luggage.

@@jacobmartinez4031 (stamps on plastic box) (takes out content of plastic box) no tooth pick needed.

@@jacobmartinez4031 Well that depends on the usage of the case. If you only use it for travelling by air in the US the gun mustn't be loaded or it's illegal. So even if someone steals the gun they couldn't kill anyone or at least they would have a harder time doing so...

Its all security theatre. All of it. Physical, Cyber, Police, it's all make believe. The world is DIY, everyone needs to get used to that.

I'm sure the actual TSA requirement is simply "it needs to not actually be secure".

@@dww34 u good bro

Anom Amos there are multiple KZhead vids documenting exactly that type of TSA encounter.

Yeah I saw Deviants video too!

@@jpe1 One guy would travel for competitions with really expensive and safe locks on his cases, and started suing the TSA for replacement costs.

I have never once had a TSA agent inspect one of my firearms. Ever time it's just been the airlines check in agent. And then I'm told IF the TSA wants to take a look they will.come get me. Never has happened.

@@im2geek4u Only time I had a TSA inspect one of my firearms was at the Denver airport and it was after they X-rayed the case and saw it was an MP5 that I had in the case. I think they just wanted to look at it more than anything.

That's what I was thinking. The flaw seems so obvious, it might actually be intended. If that's the case it's actually not a bad design, if you ignore the hinge of course

No, there shouldn't be a TSA lock on a hard case carrying a firearm, at all. A guy actually talked at a panel about how he uses that to transport everything he carries in locked steel cases to prevent theft. Since each case contains a firearm only he can open them, and there were occasions where he got through faster because he had firearms in there (separate line). He talked about a few things I don't remember exactly, some edge cases, what to say to idiots etc. Also to check the rules for where you fly and keep up to date with the federal laws.

And the the TSA agent can ask the passenger "oh looks like there is something wrong with the key can you open it up for me?" Which the passenger then opens it up with the combo...

Imperial Knight, you do realize that the Transportation Safety Administration is a Federal Agency under the Department of Homeland Security, right? Essentially, you said that this gun case fulfills both Federal and Federal requirements . . . .

@@tortex1 That sounds like Deviant Ollam. The only problem is that apparently the TSA keep breaking into his cases by cutting off his locks to inspect them and then "securing" them with TSA luggage locks or even zip ties!

" I thought not. It's not a story the TSA would tell you. It's a legal legend."

@@GregDickinson75 "Is it possible to learn this lock?" "Not from a TSA agent…."

I'm not even an engineer and I often wonder this.

I bought this clips on AMZN once and they ad little "feet" that swiveled to achieve good contact with what you're clipping. They were flawed in that there was no stopper so the feet would flip around and fall off. Company solution was to include a bad of spare feet.... I'd be embarrassed to suggest such a poor "fix"

Usually they says "TSA Approved" instead. :P

Because TSA require insecure lock to be used so they can open it ?

If they want to look in my bag they have to come and ask me first. That should be the standart no matter what. I always wrap my suitcase when traveling. Then its easy to see if its been open or not.

@@kyanhluong TSA doesn't lockpick the locks. They have keys. They can open it no matter how sturdy the lock box is

Remember the Clipper Chip?

Well, I can only speak for myself as a mischievous brother, but, at least some 25 years ago, you cold brute force them with just about anything you had on hand and more often than not they still closed after.

And here I was thinking my fetish was weird. Have you tried Pornhub?

@@bdf2718 can't Imagine I'm the only brother that did things like that for no other reason than to get a rise out of my sisters.

Jon Gustavsson LPL should develop and sell a diary (or a line of them) that is highly resistant to mischievous brothers.

you win the intawebs