8 Deleted Scenes That Explain Confusing Sci-Fi Movie Moments
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In the Robocop remake, there was a directly stated reason for the Hand - the "Dreyfuss Act" legally forbade use of AI drones within the US. The fact that Robocop had a human brain and a human hand on the trigger was meant as a way to skirt the law. This also became a plot point when it was revealed during one of the training scenes that when the visor was down, the AI was actually in control - in direct contravention of the law.
Everyone is forgetting the other T2 gem. After the T-1000 gets frozen, he ‘s not morphing right. That’s how John could tell it apart from his mom in the smelter scene. When John looks down, the T-1000’s feet are mimicking the grates of the catwalk.
I was about to mention this very thing as well.
But I much prefer the other version. It makes John look a lot smarter as it seems he realizes the T-1000 wouldn't be asking John to get out of the way if he was about to fire a shotgun. Why wouldn't the T-1000 just shoot them both? Yeah, him seeing the deformed feet sells it instantly but the theatrical way makes him seem a lot more wise.
@@MysterClark Yep, this, it ended up being much better. James Cameron and the cowriter for the movie both decided it to be best to cut the scenes of the T-1000 malfunctioning for these reasons and I feel they made the right choice. They also wanted to keep the T-1000 appearing to be indestructible right up until the last moment.
I recall seeing this scene in a movie magazine article, but didn’t actually see it in the film. I figured it was cut from the movie.
@Dino Flagella There are traces of it in the theatrical cut, At one point after the liquid N2 incident, as the T-1000 is walking through foundry, You see a "ripple" of liquid metal with an audible crackling sound run from the T1000s lower extremities up to its head. For some reason for continuity sake, I guess that bit simply couldn't be removed. This is the "system noise" referred to in the novelization and shown in more detail in the directors and extended cuts of the film. They did successfully cut the unintentional morphing to the floor, and the part where it involuntarily copies the yellow and black guardrail when it touches it. But if you watch closely you can still tell, the T1000 isn't firing on all 8 cylinders.
Always assumed robocop having his human hand without explanation in the reboot was a callback to the brief scene in the original when one of the docs working on him say they managed to save his hand but are told to replace it with a robotic one anyway
Me 2, My other thought was that they wanted a human hand pulling the trigger instead of a robotic hand. I thought both were acceptable.
Yeh thats what I thought. I guess handshake excuse is passable though 😄
Was the whole arm.
@@KaijuAKD even so, the fact reboot robocop still had a human hand felt like a reference to that bit of the original with them cutting the explanation of why they kept the hand - infact even now knowing what the intended explanation was it still feels like a reference.
Agreed, I instantly felt it was an Easter egg. Without the deleted scenes I feel we all just came to the same idea
The origami unicorn is also a tip to Deckard being a replicant, because it shows Gaff knows about his unicorn dream.
Or it refers to Rachel since she was a unique replicant and Gaff would easily know that.
*In the original script to Independence Day they go in even more detail. They say that all modern technology, mini transistors, microprocessors, microchips, computers, cell phones, all was based on the alien tech. So since all our tech was reverse engineered from the ship, it was possible to alter our software to integrate with their ships*
Damn son, wheres the link to that script?!
@@mattshaw32 *I dunno Patton Oswald talked about it in a few interviews*
@@nova2512 Patton Oswalt said he heard about it at some point after watching the movie and that it was a deleted scene. I don't think he had any special knowledge about what was in the original script.
@@twitchascension *Well in order for something to be taken out of the movie it had to be in the script right?*
Damn, why did they delete that and embrace the 90s cheese?
I never thought too much about old Biff being in pain. He was an old man so I always assumed the excitement and/or stress of his time travel excursion resulted in him having a heart attack. Admittedly he didn’t seem bothered when back in the past so the planned explanation of him experiencing pain from being erased makes more sense.
Better yet it's because Lorraine shot him. With the same gun he used to kill George, no less.
I never even noticed he was in pain before getting his cane wedged and kind of hitting himself jerking it out, so I just thought he whacked himself with his own cane real good.
A heart attack? And he survived and went on with his adventure? OK... I always assumed the same, he's an old guy with chronic pain because, well he's old.
I assumed he got beat up in the jump through time. He's old, and Time is bumpy
@@Thornbloom I thought I heard about that. Thanks for confirming that.
Aliens had an originally deleted scene explaining that Ripley’s daughter had died while she was drifting through space, which helped explain her super strong attachment to Newt.
And thus prompted Alien Isolation the video game
Are you referring to the scene where Ripley and Burke are talking about it and he gives her the photo of Ripley's daughter as an old woman? I guess I wasn't aware that wasn't in the theatrical release.
Speaking of Aliens, it really bothered me when I saw the movie again years later... this time to include the cool Sentry Gun shoot out scenes. Ah, so that's why the Aliens attacked the survivors from the ceiling. Plan B, given the losses they sustained from the carefully placed guns, ruling out a direct assault.
@@SSGLGamesVlogs It also explains why there are so few aliens. There should be one for every colonist, excluding those who died without being implanted.
@@canman87 Correct. That scene where they discuss her daughter was reinserted for the director's cut. As was the entire 6 - 7 minutes that show the colonists on the alien planet (as well as Newt's family finding ship). Lastly, all of the motion sensor sentry gun scenes were snipped as well. Lots of good stuff in the director's cut.
Pretty much 8 more reasons why the Director's Cut of movies should be always available
@@Just4Fun-Zocker Blade Runner kills that point
Or at least all of the deleted/extended scenes.
And thanks to streaming, now often they are not.
George Lucas doesn't want the original cuts of the Star Wars original trilogy to be available -- the DVD versions included with the two-disc Special Editions were even relegated to low-res extras such that I have to zoom in on them on my player to get a scale-and-fit fill of the screen. Anyway, if for no other reason, these films should be available in their unmodified forms for cinema history; we should be able to look back at what film makers did before hyper-realistic CGI was available, how far we've come since, and how _good_ they made it look despite the limitations of the day.
In Terminator 2, the most logical chain of progression would be the Resistance switched the T-800's chip to Read/Write in order to reprogram it, then put the chip back to Read Only when they deployed it on the mission. The reasoning is the Resistance couldn't be certain what the T-800 will encounter when it first arrives in the past and before it can establish contact with John Connor, so they set the chip to Read Only in order to prevent any potential corruption before Connor can take command of the T-800. It's only afterwards do the Connors have an opportunity to reset the chip to Read/Write
Your explanation was so much clearer than the video's.
Now I'm picturing it having a little read/write switch like on SD cards.
@@Cheater357 There's a good look of the chip in the deleted scene. It _does_ have a sliding two-position pin switch.
Honestly, this was the least confusing part of any of the terminator movies. (No one will ever convince me on how Skynet can actually exist after "judgement day", not the movie but the nuclear launches bit) And I saw this scene in every version I saw.
I never knew that scene existed, but its absence never bothered me. It is obvious that the T-800 is capable of taking in and storing new data, and use it to modify it's behavior going forward. If that was not the case, it would be totally ineffectual.
The significance of the unicorn in Blade Runner is that he didn't tell anyone about the dreams. Therefore the cop making origami was a way of taunting him that he too was a replicant. The original cut, the one first mass released, didn't hint at that, which dropped the biggest twist of the story.
"biggest twist" Its completely irrelevant imo. _It doesn't matter_ if he is or isn't a replicant. That's the entire message of the movie. At least its what i take away from it.
@@khatdubell Ridley Scott and Harrison Ford would disagree with you inasmuch that it DOES matter, but they argue from different sides. And it does matter in that whether he is or isn't changes the theme of the movie, somewhat. Yet neither are 'wrong' either.
I always thought it just showed he was there and had left his calling card like you see throughout the movie.
@@DJlegionuk this was my original takeaway from the scene. You see him making and leaving them throughout the movie. He even gives one to the police chief iirc.
@@TheInselaffen Blade Runner came out in 1982, Legend didn't come out until three years later.
As Nebula is escaping the Sanctuary II, you clearly see and hear her send a message to the Benatar telling Mantis to meet her on Titan, at which point they simply used the Benatar’s nav system
The Robocop one also has a writer's room reason as well. Kinneman's Murphy is inverted from Weller's in the wounds he received. They destroyed OG Murphy's chest and brain and specifically blew off his right hand. So Kinneman's Murphy keeps his chest, brain, and right hand and loses everything else.
The waitress in Avengers was never an issue for me. I've seen so many people say the deleted scene "expains" why we focus on her, but I don't agree. To me, it always made sense that they showed her because at the end, as they show all different reactions to the Avengers & the battle of New York, we end with a clip of someone who we know, whose experience we've seen and lived with her. That's the short version; long-winded version below. The deleted scene doesn't answer the question because what's in the deleted scene isn't *why* we follow her. Steve doesn't fight to save those people because she's there, he doesn't even know; he doesn't need the direct investment beforehand, & neither does the audience. The reason we follow her is for *after* - after the shock and breaking news and talking heads and the wonderful Stan Lee all have their say - we see her. We hear from someone whose experience we know. We saw what she went through, saw her in the fear of the madness around her, afraid for her life; then saw her in the relief of being saved... we saw her as she saw Cap - saw him fighting, saw him tired and beat up and bleeding, knowing that was for her and every other person around her... even if he never knew their names, he fought to save them. She knows this, and says it, but it only resonates, it only means anything because we know she was there and we saw her see him. It wouldn't have the strength and weight to bring an emotional end to that scene, a period to end that "phrase" of the movie, if we didn't see her before. (Okay, stupid long I know, thanks for reading if you did. Have a gold star: 🌟)
I agree with everything you said but I think the earlier scene bookends the movie nicely and adds an additional element we don't get otherwise; at least, we don't get it as well crafted. Her story is the B story and is the underlying heart of the film. She is the character of John Q Public, the feelings of society in general. She is the experience of every day people gaining hope knowing The Avengers are there to protect them. You notice she is juxtaposed against the negativity and anxiety of the media; she represents all of the people being comforted knowing The Avengers are out there making the world a better place. Without the first scene we lose some of the sense of depression that your average person is feeling before The Avengers show up. It completes the emotional arc. Something I've heard film makers talk about is telling the audience how to feel about something by showing the reactions of other characters more than on the thing itself. Humans can have a hard time feeling about something until they see other humans reacting to it. This waitress tells us how to feel about The Avengers. They are heroic because she is seeing them as heroic and thus we should see them as heroic. Similar is the scene with the cops
I never even realized that she was there. She was just a rando to me.
Woo, free gold star! I'd run out of those, thanks.
@Mark Shipley I see what you're saying, and you make a very good point, I guess I got the same impression without the deleted scene, while maybe others didn't. Fair points though!
@@gregoryvn3 😂 Glad I could help you restock!
Fixing the Terminator CPU is one of my favorite scenes! 😎 The theatrical cut still explains things, though. "Learning computer," says Big T. That's why he absorbs "Hasta la Vista" and other lessons from John so well. Indeed, the theatrical version cuts him off with perfect timing, before they talk more. Basically, he tells us his brain is a "learning computer, but" Skynet shut him off remotely so he wouldn't fully change his mind about his loyalties. That's why they have to dissect him and reactivate the independent learning function. So, in cutting the scene out, they also cut the reason it's necessary.
That scene has Furlong's best line in the movie "You keep telling me I'm gonna grow up to be a military genius, so maybe you should start listening to me!"
The theatrical version does what is called a 'throwaway line' where they cut Arnold's line at "learning computer..." and cut away to Eddie Furlong's character with Arnold doing a voiceover line of "...the more contact I have with humans..." to complete the throwaway.
I prefer the director's cut, but the theatrical is consistent with the first one, where the Terminator was already picking up dialogue that it encountered.
Fascinating. I actually only ever watched the directors cut, so I wasn't even aware of the watered-down version. To me, John specifically asking to open the chip to new input always put special weight to their bond.
@@McKay1108 Indeed. Even though I don't recall the exact line, John telling his mom "If I'm gonna be a great leader someday, maybe you should listen to me" or "maybe you should follow my orders" has so much weight. John's spent the last two or three years believing his mom was brainwashed and he was growing up with a warped sense of reality. Now that he knows she's not out of her mind, he knows that he will someday send his father back in time to conceive himself. Now that he knows that, someday John's going to figure out that he's the one who relocked the chip before that T-800 was sent back in time to save him. He'll know, because he's going to have to lock that chip in place, so that his younger self can convince his dear departed mother that he needs to listen to her and work with a Terminator to take down a Terminator.
As for that engineer from Wrath of Khan: I always thought Scotty's words, "He stayed at his post when the other recruits fled," said it all.
In the original "Robocop", one of the scientists working on Murphy comments that they can save his right hand. The OCP suit acts like that scientist is an idiot and tells him to get rid of the hand. I just figured that Robocop still having his right hand in the remake was a wink and a nod to the original.
More t2 trivia, during the scene depicted here they brought in Linda Hamiltons twin sister and had Linda play Sarah's reflection operating on a fake head. Great illusion and acting from all of them
In Avengers Infinity War after Nebula escaped she called to Mantis, thats how I figured she told them, as for Blade Runner I figured the Origami left behind meant that his partner showed up there but decided to leave them in peace, but also showed Decker he has his back.
The unicorn dream makes a lot more sense if you remember that Blade runner was based off of the novel "do Andriods dream of electric sheep?"
I was fully expecting The Lost World to be included, with the ship at the end having all the crew eaten whilst indoors despite the only dino on board being an adult T-Rex which was locked in the hold.
If my memory serves me right didn't they put the Baby Rex back onboard the ship with the Adult/Mum? I THINK that's the scene you're talking about!
@@pirate_duck4985 Are you talking about when they're taking them back to the island? Because I think OP is talking about when the boat originally got to the mainland and all of the crew are dead even though the adult rex is locked in the lower hold. How'd they all die if the only dinosaur is locked up? I've heard a couple stories about that over the years but I don't think anything was official.
AFAIK, they never filmed that scene. The original scrip apparently mentioned raptors killing the crew (in the first book that's what happens) but the scene wasn't filmed, so there's no deleted scene.
@@pirate_duck4985 That was at the end. The baby Rex was originally brought to the mainland via helicopter, they mention it in the film. The reason all the crew died was because the script originally had velociraptors on board the ship as well as the adult Rex.
Well don't leave us hanging! Bloody tell us already! LOL
I always read the Scotty scene as him reacting to the trauma of the attack. It never seemed out of place to me.
In the theatrical release in Canada, the nephew reference was kept in (for some reason, the US and Canadian cuts of movies sometimes differed i. small ways) so for me, this was never a question.
Yeah i always felt the theatrical cut reaction was natural. Scotty seeing such a young cadet burned and broken would be crushing for him
Bringing the kid to the bridge instead of sickbay is definitely out of place
@@strongblade The version I saw in the UK at the cinema also had the nephew scene , I've always known about.🖖👍
@@tomflynn768 Yes, I commented on this too as we Brits and from these comments Canadians, wondered what the US viewers were on about.
Ironically, I watched T2 dozens of times but only once or twice without these deleted scenes. One of them shows the security guards severely beating Sahra in the beginning of the movie, which explains why she was so overbrutal to them afterwards
Not only severely beating her but indicates that they were sexually molesting her when she was drugged
Fairly known fun fact about T2, in the scene where the chip is set to learning mode the main actress's twin sister played her in the "mirror" (a wooden frame only) and Arnold was doubled by a special effects head in the shots from the back.
Scotty's nephew scene was shown in the UK cinema version, so I always wondered why other people got confused about it. Then I later learned that the US release didn't have that scene in it.
I saw the film in 82 in the US 1st week. I may be remembering wrong due to video releases, but I remember in the theater he says: my sister's boy crazy for space. I can't go back and see it again 40 years ago...so I can't prove it, but that is my memory. Inference evidence that I'm remembering correctly is I never questioned Scotty's specific bond, even before it made it to cable movie channels or the ABC Sunday Night Movie...both of which I have recordings.
"My sister's youngest. Crazy to get to space."
I scrolled down about this one. I always remembered the introduction scene. I never knew it wasn't there in any of the releases.
There is a scene in the first Nightmare on Elm Street that was cut that showed Nancy talking to her mother and she tells her after they burned Freddy alive, she took the glove and hid it in the basement. This explained why Freddy focused on Nancy. It made the whole franchise make sense. Why would you cut something so important that was less than a minute long?
Probably pacing.
That wasn't cut. That's in the actual release. It was after Nancy described him to her mother and she knew who it was.
Because bladders have only just grown bigger than a peanut recently apparently
@@NickNieves112 yes it was cut her mom went into more detail that said she had a sibling that's not in the actual film what her and the rest of the parents did that is Craven shortened that scene look it up on youtube i think it's on here.
@@khatdubell If a minute long clip can throw off a movie’s entire pacing, there’s something wrong with how the overall movie was edited. Most movies have whole scenes (and sometimes several) that throw off pacing, but they’d rather cut brief single shots that contain important tidbits? That’s not only dumb, but as an avid moviegoer, I’ll gladly sit through any movie of any length as long as I find it entertaining.
The book of Wrath of Khan, Peter’s role was much larger and Scotty’s reaction his death made perfect sense
7:25 That's the Ship of Theseus question, but yes, the broom example works too.
Here's one that really bothered me: in X2: X-Men United, we see Professor Xavier imprisoned at Alkali Lake with the illusion-casting mutant Jason. In one moment he is clearly at the base under the lake, telling Jason to stop it; the next instant he is in the illusion of being back at the X-Mansion, consoling a scared little girl, and he completely believes it. I always thought it weird that he bought into the illusion so quickly, when just a second ago he knew exactly where he was. Well, in a deleted scene we see him and Cyclops escaping from the compound and flying back to the mansion, only to then have it revealed to the audience that his escape was all an illusion to make him believe he really was back at the mansion when he wasn't. They were supposed to give him a reason to believe what he was seeing, but the editors just took that out and made him look like an idiot who was instantly fooled for no reason.
I remember seeing deleted scenes from X2: X-Men United which completely explained why Professor X started using Cerebro 2. After the first attempt by Jason failed, he created a more elaborate illusion, where Professor X and Cyclops escaped the facility and returned to the X-Mansion. With the X-Men and the other mutants missing, he plugged into Cerebro to find them (at the urging of the little girl with heterochromia/ Jason).
There was a book version of Independence Day released shortly before the film, this book is pretty much the original script. Ove of the trailers featured a cut scene as well (David and Julius driving through oncoming traffic). One thing that gets me is always the end, and even the Extended Cut didn't answer it. In the book, Russell ends up getting rejected for a pilot for being too drunk and he then straps a missile to his biplane and that's what he flies into the beam. In the movie, it almost seems as if they originally filmed it that way, (for example, nobody knowing who he was) then shot extra scenes and added them in (i.e, all the 'Fox One/Two scenes).
They originally filmed those scenes as described in the book. But test audiences didn't like that his biplane attack was an intentional suicide (it was out of character when he loved his kids so much) so the ending was reshot to make his death a braver sacrifice
There is still the question on how Biff returns to the unaltered future.
@@BlackHatCinephile I understand that part, but like how Marty and Doc traveled to the alternate future, Biff should have wound up in the alternate future as well, though it leads to the issue Marty, and Doc not having the Delorian. That is technical enough that it can be dismissed for the sake of the movie.
It seems like the time stream "self correction" is a slow process that moves independently of where/when a time traveler is located in history. For example, when Marty interrupts his parents first meeting, he isn't immediately erased from existence. Instead we see his older siblings being erased first over the course of the story.
I figured that the timeline didn't change right away because young Biff didn't believe old Biff's story right away and didn't decide to use the almanac until later on. So, old Biff would've had time to still return to his original 2015.
@@Ampersand100 Either way, time events would have occurred, and changed by the timeline Biff traveled to. Time issues didn't have to catch up to Marty when he traveled. The only reason he was fading was that his changes were occuring in the timeline he was still occupying.
I just thought the T800 just learnt new info from humans and it went into his database. Wasn't it John who taught him that expression?
Yes, but the deleted scene was where they switched on his abilty to learn. Before that, he could not process new data this way.
@@Cau_No ahh, I see, thank you
Exactly. Both cuts of the movie have the T-800 saying, "My CPU is a neural-net processor; a learning computer." The extended version continues with his explanation of Skynet limiting their learning capabilities and then continues with the "surgery" scene. But the theatrical cut inserts an obvious dub-over short-cut-explanation when the T-800 finishes with, "The more contact I have with humans, the more I learn." In T1 the T-800 learned human expressions like "F- you, A-hole" by being around humans, though not so much human behavior. In T2, with his new commands coming from John Connor, he is now motivated to learn not only human expressions but behavior as well, as required by John himself.
I think the scene takes away the T800s carachter development , with the scene left in he learns because “they reset him” , lame. I like the theatrical cut with the simple line , he can learn stuff and he absorbs stuff from John and grows as a “person” works better. i’m Glad I seen the movie without the scene .
I always felt he left a unicorn to tell Deckard not to let Rachael get away, because she was one of a kind. Which is what unicorns always represented.
That was a really beautiful way to interpret the scene. I interpreted it as he was there and had a chance to get her but let her be so Deckard could escape with her... as final friendly gesture.
That's what I always thought and still do.
That's nice. But wrong. It's telling Deckard he's a replicant.
@@paulhilton6426 And how exactly does that tell him he's a replicant?
@@paulhilton6426 I'm curious to hear your explanation...
4:00 - Independence Day; it is mentioned in the movie, about the old ship tho..? I knew about that, and I've not seen any deleted scenes.. Or may be it was implied, when they talk about knowing how to fly the alien ship too..? I remember Goldbum talking about giving the ship a virus, like a cold, and referring to the crashed ship to know how it works
My brother actually knew that about the Star Trek thing. I remember him telling me back in the early '90s that Scotty was related to the guy that died. I don't recall how he knew, but he knew and I just took that for granted.
It was in the Novel
@@klarafreitag7692 he did read a lot of the novels when we were younger. It's interesting, thank you
Man, that Independence Day thing always made me laugh. Guy wireles with a Mac from 1996 insta hacks an alien mothership. Nice to know they tried to address it, but even then it's silly.
They had almost 50 years to figure something out about that UFO in area 51. Surely someone has come up with something in the meantime.
The Ship of Theseus thought experiment is also some old joke about a broom? I'll have to google that...
Ikr? I've never heard the broom version
@@LastBastian The broom version originates from an episode of the British sitcom Only Fools and Horses. A street sweeper is officially commended for using the same broom for many years, though it later turns out he replaced both the head and the handle multiple times each.
James Cameron said that he didn't want to cut that scene, but back in 1991, running time of movies was a big deal. And keeping that scene in added 5 minutes to a movie that was 137 minutes long, so he had to cut it. Even though it pained him to do it.
Growing up Independence Day was just a quirky little 90s action movie , that could be enjoyed by anyone willing to turn their brains off for a couple of hours . Seeing what Hollyweird produces nowadays, you realize what an absolute Masterpiece of Practical Effects it was .
It's my favorite movie to watch drunk.
@@KaijuAKD Or high ...
Agreed. The shot of the alien laser blowing up the white house is absolutely iconic.
X-Men days of future past had a deleted scene at the end that both explains why the sentinel program was abandoned and why the X-Men ultimately worked with the government.
Yeah, I knew at least half of these already. I like reading movie novelizations, and they tend to keep scenes cut from the movies. Also, I watch deleted scene reels if they are available.
The Independence Day deleted scenes were restored in the Extended Cut that came out on DVD. There's another one from earlier where David explains the alien satellite interference seems to have an end point which clarifies how he figured out it was a sort of countdown.
Yeah, I was never confused about how he interfaces his laptop with the alien ship. They had an UFO for decades, enough time to come up with a solution. Not just for what we see in the movie, but simply to download stuff from it.
Amazing video Josh from what culture, fantastic job.
They didn't restore a cut Unicorn scene in the Blade Runner Directors Cut, that was footage from another Ridley Scott movie, Legend. At the time of filming, RS wanted Deckard to be a Replicant, the scriptwriter wanted him to be Human, as he was in the original book it was based on, "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep". The Producer overruled RS and had the film edited so the the answer was undefined. RS added the unicorn scene in 10 years later, as well as post-digital effects on the eyes etc.
Him an Lucas will share a cell in Hell.
Biff disapearing would have explained a bit of why he went back to the "original" future he left... that would mean he still managed to reach the original timeline since the changes had not caught up yet... and he arrived before things changed starting with him... the reason we didn't see that much change when marti came back to the present in the first movie was just because he went straight to bed after meeting the doc and stuff changed through the night...
Wow, you make a good point... so maybe Marty actually should have died in agony the same as Biff did, but maybe they realized they hadn't put that in the first movie, so that's why they cut him fading out?
Re: the broom thing. "Ship of Theseus", look it up.
The scene I wanted left in the film was in Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels where everyone learns why Harry wants the bar so much
Technically speaking, this Biff was Biff #2 because the original was a psychopath jerk knocked out by George in the original timeline. So I wonder if original Biff went through the samething Biff #2??
Are you referring if both Biffs have the same past experiences,but ending will be totally different due to the braching of a new alternate future timeline,original Biff not rich& ruthless to town folks, Biff No. 2 very rich& ruthless,etc?. So,the verdict is that original Biff sorta commited suicide by going to the past& helping past self?.
Biff 1: apparently a lifelong bully to most people, and to George in particular. Biff 2: apparently sucks up to his auto detailing customers when accused of cheating them. And sucks up to George in particular since that punch in the fifties. Apart from that, still a bully in his old age. Biff 3: given info on the future (the sports almanac, that is) but still gets punched by George. Shoots George much later (among other wrongdoings) amid all his wealth-building. Counterintuitively relevant dialog: remember what Doc Brown says later when he declares it's mission time. Seems he's sure it's okay to leave time travelers behind (in this case one girlfriend and one sheepdog) when planning to go back and change the past. The world will change around them he promises. Official explanation of events: Biff 2 boosts the DeLorean and escapes the scene cleanly. Reality changes around Marty, Jennifer, Doc Brown, and the dog. They're unaware just like Doc later tells us time travellers would be. (Only excuse I know of for not SHOWING US any changes, and it's a pretty flimsy excuse, is that they're already in a suburban slum. If they meandered in 2015 more before departure, they'd see more dystopian sights.) The film soon shows some of what life is like for Lorraine in 1985A. Some time later, Lorraine avenges George's murder (among other wrongdoings) by shooting Biff. Back to those last scenes in the future: Biff 2 sneaks the car back to the future of Biff 3. Since Biff 3 is deceased, Biff 2 cannot be alive in that reality and so he fades away. The filmmakers had a clear idea but realized they'd neglected any clear exposition of it. That's why they took it out. So, contrary to this list title, the shot of fading Biff doesn't explain anything so much as it requires explanation. Otherwise, it just makes the moment MORE confusing. 🤗
@@alm2187 From what I recall, the scene with old Biff fading away ended with a shot of an old newspaper headline announcing his murder. Still a clumsy way to explain everything, which is likely why it got deleted.
I just assumed Old Biff was having a heart attack. I'm glad they cut out that scene because it just raises more questions about alternate timelines and versions of yourself. Technically, Biff shouldn't have even been able to return to that version of the future. The minute he gave his younger self the comic book, the timeline should have diverged and the former version of 2015 should have been inaccessible to him. He should have been able to go to an altered version of the future just like Marty did when he returned to 1985 in the first movie.
Number 6: Why Biff is in pain. Not sure if this counts. If one sees Part 1 one would see Marty being in pain as he was being erased, so this would be the scene that explains Biff in Part 2. He stumbles out of the car, trying desperately to hold onto his existance to see the results of his medling. When we see the new Biff it makes sense that he'd no longer end up as someone who belonged in a retirement home. He'd most probably still be in his luxurious estate at that age, wearing only the most fanciest of attires. Unless he was assassinated or otherwise killed before he reached that age.
Supposedly that's exactly what happened. Eventually Lorraine was going to learn Biff had George killed, so she would shoot and kill him.
Biff clubs himself in the stomach with his own cane hard enough to break the fist topper off, leaving it in the car and tipping them off who was responsible.
Ah! 🙂 Yea, that is kinda the best we do when tryin'a interpret the scene the first time we see it. Still seems inordinate. Is hurting oneself with a cane ever going to hurt that much?
@@alm2187 I always thought he was having a heart attack.
I thought that was the reason but he's actually pained before doing so, which I never noticed til it was shown here. I think most people wouldn't notice at all, and likely that's why they didn't reshoot it or anything.
I'm confused about the Infinity War one, doesn't Nebula after breaking her guards neck on Thanos's ship go to a communicator and send a message to Nebula saying to meet on Titan? That was in the final cut of the movie and explains how the Guardians knew where to go.
yeah thought that to she either gave them the location or the guardians already knew where titan was, just that the guardians didn't know thanos was going there till nebula told them
Nebula called Mantis in the actual movie
I didn't see the other video with deleted scenes. Did they ever talk about The Abyss? Because the theatrical cut of The Abyss makes absolutely no sense because they cut out the most vital part of it, lol.
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Now explain how the aliens in Independance Day had to rely on human sattelites to transmit their 'countdown signal' to begin their attack. Send massive advanced ships to far away planets, rely on local inferior transmitters via sattelites. Surely a couple of home made transmitter drones/ships could have sort that out. Breaks my heart every time.
'They are using our own sattelites against us because they can't transmit directly due to the curvature of the Earth.' I mean, come on, nearly every celestial body in space is spherical. Couldn't have figured that one out before you got away on your zillion lightyear mission to attack a random planet?
The Unicorn scene in Blade Runner wasn't restored content. It was a section of film from the movie Legend added after the fact.
The awful Independence Day: Resurgence does NOT ruin Independence Day. The original movie is too good to be 'ruined' by a crappy sequel 20 years later! 🙂
I think the extended dialog in The Abyss which explains more thoroughly the Tsunami's. This was a key part of the movie that was cut out to shorten the running time.
How did Biff even bring the Delorean back to that timeline?
Mayne that's the reason it was erased, because if Old Biff disappears, Marty should have disappeared too at the end of the first movie.
Just an outright plot hole, and an inescapable one at that. As noted in BTTF2 itself, Biff jumping forward from 1955 should've gone to the Alt 2015 of Alt 1985, the way Doc said Marty cannot go back to 2015 to stop Old Biff or himself there. Even then as Pablo notes, that issue is already a problem in the first movie. Marty's family was still drastically changed as people, the very first version of 1985 is gone. Thus: NEVER overanalyze time travel, it always breaks. Just take the fun interactions it enables as a narrative device and go.
To quote ant man, "back to the future was a bunch of bs" lol. It's a movie made in the 80s when storyline didn't have to be so perfect to please all the people in the world at the same time. It was meant to be a fun movie about weird time travel hijinks and that is what should be taken from it not this what about this changing that thing. It's a movie and should be treated as such. Science fiction tells you all you should know
Most of these seem like semi-important details needlessly cut out of movies! I am glad some put them back in!
I always assumed he was in pain because he accidentally hit himself in the chest with his cane. And that he had trouble getting out of the Delorean because it was a low car and he was old.
And I thought when the cane broke it hit him hard in the stomach
I just thought of another one, In Legend there is a scene where Jack (tom Cruise) is talking to Meg Mucklebones. When she first appears he is holding his shield. In the US release the scene cuts to her lunging at him and his shield is suddenly behind Meg. In the original release we see that he used the shield to trick Meg into thinking she was "beautiful" which gave him a chance to draw his sword.
@@j.d.714 agreed, I would love a Director's Cut with the Tangerine Dream soundtrack. I do have the Ultimate edition though.
Started watching movie "The Informer" starring Joel Kinnaman. Driving me crazy of what other movie he was in. First time watching this channel. This video answered my question the same day. It's funny how life works. Independence Day first movie is a hands down remote drop movie for me.
The Star Trek is widedly known by fans. It was written in the novelization that came out in 1993.
What really happened in Independence Day: the aliens tried to network with a 90s mac, and crashed the whole system. Happened all the time in our school computer lab. 🤣
The Infinity War thing doesn't clear up why they went to Titan. Why? Because we saw Nebula send the message to Mantis in the film. Well, the first of several anyhow.
that scene in T2, I only saw over a decade later after the first time. and they should have left it in the original cut, makes way more sense... The original cut, does make the link "can we reset the switch" but the scene does make it better IMO
It is explained in Robocop why he has a hand just not as outright as in the deleted scene. People would have got that if it was only worth watching a second time.
The Independence Day deleted scene was already used in the first version of this list lol
Most Star Trek fans more than likely read the book and knew he was Scotty's nephew.
Or saw the version that aired on network TV in the mid 80s. It had that scene intact.
Yep. I read the novelization the same week I saw The Wrath of Kahn.
I remember when I came out of the theater after watching T2 in a mall, I bought T2 trading cards and that scene was on one of those cards and left me confused until I bought the special edition T2 DVD.
Eh, excuse me that's the 2000 film What Women Want's Ashley Johnson 😝
Holy shit, it is.
I honestly just always assumed that David was able to write a virus for the alien ship, because we had used the roswell crash to create the tech we have lol.
I just went with the "Well obviously Steve Jobs was an alien" answer
@@jarrodbright5231 Lmfao, that's plausible as well.
the scene from Terminator is restored in the extended edition and was cut for time and redundancy as it is partially explained through dialog but the full scene explains it better
The Terminator 2 scene doesn't explain anything. The T-800, in the theatrical version, says that it has a neural net, capable of learning. The extended scene also adds a line saying that Skynet disables that feature by default (Sarah quips Skynet is afraid the Terminators will learn to betray their creator). Without that line, the scene of reactivating the learning function isn't needed. But is an interesting addition to the extended version. Personally, I think the cut scene of the T-1000 glitching would fit this better. The invincible seeming liquid metal robot starting to lose control indicates that all the damage it has taken is doing something, and that there is hope it can be destroyed. And the ID4 complaint is stupid, and is one of those things that shows the complainers don't actually know what they are talking about. In the theatrical release, we already know that David Levinson found and partly decoded the alien signal. That the aliens connected their systems to our satellites. That modern digital tech was reverse engineered from the Roswell crash. And that David and the scientists were told to work together. One extra scene showing him being given access to the craft and recognizing elements of the alien code is just the cherry on top of the sundae. And I like the second Independence Day, thank you very much. It's not as good as the original. It will never be a classic. It's a bit unoriginal. But it is still a fun popcorn movie.
The terminator literally explains the reasons why the T-800 knows "hasta la vista" as well as why it looked human and not even in deleted scenes, just the regular release. The terminator specifically mentions that its CPU is a learning computer and that allows it to blend in and, "Act more human." John and the Terminator have a scene in a car where John teaches Arnie some phrases such as hasta la vista. Its explained in the first movie that human skin was grown for the cyborgs so that they would infiltrate better. There was an older model that had rubber skin that was too easy to spot. Its also the reason the used dogs so they could sniff out Terminators. The deleted scene where they take the chip off read mode is actually the only time they mention that the change was needed so he could learn. They took it out because it conflicted with the ideas, such as above, that stated specifically that they could in fact learn. By that point in the movie the Terminator had already shown it was capable of learning ideas and concepts from John
The one for T2 is restored, at least it was on VHS, don't know about DVD and/or Blu-ray...!
Half of those deleted scenes were in the movies when I watched them, whether on DVDs, Blu-ray, or online.
I must have the ST2:WoK theatrical release on DVD, because the 'deleted scene' shown here is in my movie. I thought it odd that it was brought up, since it was obvious to me Scotty was his uncle.
In the new robocop movie, i though the hand was left as the gun security system recons the finger prints of the owner and only shoot if the owner was who was handling the gun, but that was from Judge Dread... ah! whatever. in terminator that scene was cut because T.800 said something among the lines of "the more i be around humans the more i learn and so become more human." I think that wraps it all perfectly and no Sara handling delicate T800 hardware.
Now I have so many questions that I don’t know yet
4:05 i've never heard anyone ever describe it like that. i don't think i've met anyone who liked that jingoistic schlock, not even people from usa.
The whole handshake thing in RoboCop was in there. Not a deleted scene.
that last one would have caused more questions than it answered for me
I always figured Old Biff was hurt from getting so much shit dumped on him lol
In the original Robocop, the OCP team initially saved Murphy's left arm. Bob Morton, the asshat in charge, ordered the arm discarded in favor of full cybernetics.
Not a sci fi movie, but easily the biggest one for me was near the end of Amadeus, when Mozarts wife says she's "only sorry I don't have a maid to show you out" in a seething and knowing way. For years my friends and I just scratched our heads about it, until we saw the directors cut. Which not only explained why she said it, but definitely should have been left in as a display of the level of cruelty that Salieri was capable of.
Robocop reboot: its the right hand that is talked about but @2:48 it's shown as his left hand (unless the video at this part is flipped).
the T-800 "reset" scene is the special extended edition of T2
Independence Day/Jeff Goldblum -- can anyone believe they actually made an ACTION FIGURE of Jeff Goldblum from this??? How cool!
2:39 I thought it was because that was his shooting hand , it make more sense to keep it then replace it with a mechanical one if it was uninjured.
Let’s be honest here. The dumbest plot point in Independence Day is the aliens using earth satellites to synchronize their attack time.. not only do they have their own space ships to use, they are obviously technically advanced enough to make a fricken clock capable of keeping time for a few hours..
So glad they cut the Sarah Connor scene with the chip. Her transformation from damsel in distress in T1 into a paramilitary badass was fantastic. Adding genius level computer skills necessary to tinker with tech that's cutting edge in the *future* would've ruined it. And it wasn't necessary.
That prearticular T2 deleted scene is not necessary at all. Without it you just accept that the resistance did it before sending it back to a past.
That scene with the T-800 is included in the extended cut of the movie.
Deckard's unicorn dreams lend no explanation to the origami unicorn since the other detective would not know about that. What does make sense and is what I always assumed since seeing the premier is that it represented Rachel since she was a "unique" replicant... she was the unicorn.
Didn't John Connor teach the Terminator how to say "Hasta La Vista, baby"?
@04:57 That scene is in the extended version of the movie.
In Terminator 2, I find it interesting that the resistance reprograms the T-800 before sending it back through time, only to be re-reprogrammed by young John. But that was after the Terminator allowed him to open his skull!